1 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome back to Rapaport's Reality, the podcast where me 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: and Michael Rapport and my wife talk about all things 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: reality TV, all things popular culture, and some specific curated 4 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: gems from the comings and goings of our relationship, hence 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: the title Rapaport's Reality. 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm Keevy Rappaport, you. 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Pointed to yourself. I'm Michael Rappaport, and we are recording 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: this way past our bedtime. Full transparency. It is six 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: oh seven pm Eastern Standard Time. Normally we record the 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: podcast in the dead of the afternoon. Some people might 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: be going, oh my crap, it is sort of the afternoon. No, 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: for us, this is this. 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: Is wine down time normally if we're home, this is 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: like I'm like cleaning up, you know how you like 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: get the house up before you go into the bedroom, 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: wash your face, you know, brush your teeth, put the 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: jammi's on. We're approaching that hour. 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Very busy day to day, very busy day to 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: day for me. I had two meetings and if I 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: have to go outside, if I leave, if I leave 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: it for me said that. 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: With such a sincere worn out look on your face, 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: like I'm exhausted. I was one day, you had like 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: what five meetings, and that I met you for dinner 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: and you had a whole time. 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: I was unprecedented. 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: That was like, you did so good because I know 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: that you talked all day and then we were meeting 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: people for dinner that we didn't really know that we 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: don't I didn't know them at all, but you know them, 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: but not that well. You know, you kind of have 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: to be a little on yo. 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 1: And two today, if I go out of the house 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: for more than two hours at a time, also it's 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: not so much if I leave the house for two 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: hours at a time. If I leave our block, that 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: adds extra like stress, extra energy and all that stuff. 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: And I was way downtown on Canal Street for my 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: first meeting, and then I had lunch, and then I 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: had another meeting, and I was a meeting and greeting 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people throughout these two meetings. Hence the 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: reason why we are recording this way past our bedtime 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: or no way past our normal recording time at six 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: now at six nine pm six nine pm Eastern Standard. Nonetheless, 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: rapaports reality. There's a lot to discuss. We had a 46 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: bunch of things we were gonna discuss but we have 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: to talk about the two crazy setting losses in the 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: popular culture world. First, the loss of everybody's favorite son 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: if you grew up in the eighties, Malcolm Jamal Warner 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: passed away a couple of days ago in a tragic 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: drowning accident. Apparently he was with his family in Costa 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Rica and got caught up in a terrible, terrible situation 53 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: and drowned at fifty four years old. 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: Unimaginable. I mean, truly, truly unimaginable. You know, I was 55 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: thinking about him and for every little black girl of 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: the age that saw him on TV. That was my boyfriend. 57 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: At one point was that my sister had a poster 58 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: of him and her in her on her side of 59 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: the bedroom. I think yesterday it's why I was moving 60 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: very slow. I was like in shock. 61 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy. And you know, if you did grow up 62 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: watching that show and you are of a certain age, 63 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: thirty million people a week back then, thirty million people 64 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: a week watched The Cosm Show, like at the time 65 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: network television was king going viral. Was eight eight thirty 66 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Thursday Night, The Cosmi Show, you know, and that was 67 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: a humongous show, obviously a breakthrough show that of course 68 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: is marred and controversy because of all things Bill Cosby related. 69 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: But Malcolm Jamal Warner. It's crazy when somebody passes, even 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: somebody that you might not see that often. Obviously the 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: Cosby Show is from the eighties, but he and what 72 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: he did and who he represented as a person on 73 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: the show and who he represented afterwards, and the way 74 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: he carried himself really really meant a lot and means 75 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: a lot to a lot of peoples. It sucks. It 76 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: sucks when actors, celebrities sort of get their quote unquote 77 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: flowers get their come up, ins get their do when 78 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: they pass. And that seems to be the case with 79 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: Malcolm Jamal Warner because he worked consistently throughout his adult life, 80 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: but he never had that monumental breakthrough thing again, which 81 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: sucks and must have been frustrating to him as an 82 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: artist and as a performer and somebody who's so recognizable 83 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: as an actor. 84 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: But as a musician, he was very, very accomplished musician 85 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 2: and Edwardsmith you know his poetry is spoken word. 86 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: Yep. 87 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: He was such a gifted, lovely, kind soul. 88 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: And I first met him when he was at the 89 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: height of the Cosby Show in a club in New 90 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: York call the Latin Quarters. The Latin Quarters was one 91 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: of the first hip hop clubs where you would go 92 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: to these. I mean the Latin Quarters was around obviously 93 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: before the eighties. It was like, you know, where you 94 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: would go see jazz artists, and then the seventies, like 95 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: you'd go see Lou Reed and you know, it was 96 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: like a club in times guard. I believe Latin Quarters 97 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: is still there, but on Fridays and Saturday nights or 98 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: just Saturdays or just Fridays, I can't remember. I think 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: it was Saturday nights. Latin Quarters in the eighties we're 100 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: talking about eighty six, eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine 101 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: was a hip hop must go to spot. And it 102 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: was crazy because you'd be in Latin Quarters and not 103 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: only would you be walking around and you would see 104 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Run from Run DMC, or J from jam Master J 105 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: from run DMC, or Salt and Pepper. There's no bodyguards 106 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: or ll Cool J with no bodyguards. There was no 107 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: velvet rope, there was no VIP line. I don't know 108 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: if those things existed in discoser clubs at that time, 109 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: but I would see Malcolm Jamal Warner there all the time, 110 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: and this is when he was THEO. Yeah, And like 111 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: I said, you'd be in the club and you'd see 112 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Salt and from Salt and Pepper when you'd be going 113 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: to get like for me, when you're going to get 114 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: a coke from the bar, or you'd see Big Daddy 115 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: Kane or Bismarcky or I mean, you know Chuck d 116 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: from Public Enemy. This is when they were famous. And 117 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: I remember distinctly numerous times seeing Malcolm Jamal Warner, who 118 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: was the same age as me, in there all the time. 119 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: And then when I became an actor, you know, and 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: met him again in that carnation of my life. You know, 121 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: he didn't remember meeting me at the club, but he 122 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: certainly remembered, you know, being at the clubs and seeing 123 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: that he was a hip hop head and a hip 124 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: and represented himself with such class and such he carried 125 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: the weight of being THEO Huxtable and I think he 126 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: understood what that meant to people and who he was 127 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: as a person, and I think that informed who he 128 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: became as a as an adult. And we actually had 129 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: a dinner with him at house not too long ago, 130 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: maybe five years ago, six years ago, and I remember 131 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: talking about that then and just I worked with him 132 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: on that show White Famous, and he just was always 133 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: classy and beloved by everybody. 134 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: Oh, he's so lovable. He's so kind, like the type 135 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: of person that when you're talking to him, you can 136 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: meet him for the first time, he's looking you directly 137 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: in the ai. He's so calm, he's giving you like 138 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: he just was such a mention in such a powerhouse 139 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: of a human being, I would say. 140 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: And what you say, like somebody an older spirit, Yes, such. 141 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: An old soul. That's a good point. 142 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he felt like that. So tragic loss, devastating 143 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: for obviously for his family and his friends, which he 144 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: must have had a so many friends, being in the 145 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: business and being Malcolm Jamaal Warner for so many years 146 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: and meaning so much to so many people in show business. 147 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: In hip hop. I see so many people, you know 148 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: from hip hop, some of the people I just mentioned, 149 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: you know who have posted and said, you know, I 150 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: met him in eighty eight. I met him in eighty 151 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 1: seven and we remain friends. And you know, like I said, 152 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, when I was around, he was always classy, cool, 153 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: humble and just a nice person, like a nice decent person. 154 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: Descent, really decent, really result of the type of person. 155 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and really really sad the loss and the passing 156 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: of Malcolm Jamo Warner and then right before we recorded 157 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: this podcast, another sad loss obviously in the music world. 158 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: But this is Rapaport's reality. Ozzy Osbourne, who needs no 159 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: introduction none. Yeah, even if you've never heard an Ozzy 160 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: Osbourne Black Sabbath song, everybody knew knows about Ozzy Osbourne 161 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: is before you even saw him on TV. Like I 162 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: remember as a kid hearing about Ozzy Osbourne and the 163 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: name did you hear? 164 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: Did you hear? Because before I even knew Black Sabbath 165 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: any song from them. What you're going to say, the 166 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: urban legend of him biting off a pigeon's head. 167 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: Right, that's what he was. And when you were a 168 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: kid and you hear about a guy and you'd see 169 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: a picture with the black makeup and the crazy hair, 170 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: and all you see is pictures. This is pre MTV, 171 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: and you hear about, oh, he ate a pigeon's head 172 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: on stage, and you know it wasn't a pigeon, it 173 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: was a bat. It wasn't a bat. It was a 174 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: rat and you'd be like, who the fuck, what the fuck? 175 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't like this? 176 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeseenth a scary movie. Yeah, you know, think about his career, 177 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: how controversial a lot of those heavy metal stars were, 178 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: with the you know, a legend satanic worshiping, or the 179 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: eating of the bat's head, or the makeup and the 180 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: sex and the drugs and the rock and roll. But 181 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: I feel like his true claim to fame in my 182 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: eyes is his family life. You know, they have not 183 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: just Kelly and Jack, but there's three other kids that 184 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: they had that did chose not to be on their 185 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: reality show, The Osborne's. And the fact that a man 186 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: like that, who proposedly one point eight pigeons head on stage, 187 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: was able to keep a family together like he did 188 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: with Sharon and I think there's a legacy. 189 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: One of the things why his show was so successful, 190 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: because although he seemed wacky, he seemed totally lovable, totally sweet. 191 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: And the fact that family did come first them clearly 192 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: obviously when you hear Sharon and you heard them talk 193 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: about their marriage. It wasn't an easy marriage, but at 194 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it was all about being married. 195 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: His loving adored his wife, yes, and obviously she adored 196 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: him and the kids and all that stuff. And as 197 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: far as a reality TV show, we're talking about the 198 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore of reality TV shows. This is before the 199 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: Kardashians and Sharon Osborne apparently was the mastermind. 200 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: Here was the Chris Jenner, before the Chris. 201 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Jenner negotiating crazy contracts and everybody was like, what is 202 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: this shit in This is when reality TV it was 203 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: looked upon so negatively. It's crazy that it was like shunned. 204 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: It's still shunned in a way, but you know, I 205 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: think I feel like the more and more we move 206 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: forward in popular culture, more and more we move forward 207 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: in this incredible golden era of reality TV, it's less 208 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: and less shunned. I mean, you have arguably one of 209 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the greatest actors of his generation, despite his controversy, Alec Baldwin, 210 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: just did a reality TV show. Of course, people are 211 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: chomping at the bit. 212 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: I feel like you're pitching it to us. 213 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: Feel like if people are chomping at the bit to 214 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: see me on season four of the upcoming season of Traders, 215 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: which I obviously can't talk about. I have signed my 216 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: life away and why would I share or why would 217 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: I try to ruin it for any one of the 218 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: viewers listeners of the Iron rap pers nothing. And let 219 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: me tell you something, Trader Season four is going to 220 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: be fantastic. But in a long legacy of reality TV shows, 221 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: everything that we got on now and I mean every 222 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: single channel, network, streaming, cable, sub cable, TLC stations, I 223 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: never heard of Zeus online. There is reality TV all 224 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: over the place. And just like hip hop the Great 225 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: Biggie Small sit I never thought that hip hop would 226 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: take it this far. I never thought that reality TV 227 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: would take it this far. You never thought that. 228 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: No, I say it all the time. It was really shunned. 229 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: And when it came about really heavy was during that 230 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: actor strike I don't know, I won't want to say 231 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: in ninety I don't even know when, but all the 232 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: actors were like, oh, hell no, you were going to 233 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: make this a thing. Yeah, it won't last, it'll last 234 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: the weeks of the strike. And that's it. And here 235 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: we are. 236 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: And Love Island. I was just talking to somebody about 237 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: Love Island. The ratings of Love Island this summer on 238 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: Peacock Streaming were so over the top good because not 239 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: only is it a phenomenon, but also they had the 240 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: advantage of five nights a week. We're talking about like 241 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: this turns into must watch TV. And the people that 242 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: I was talking about, I was just talking to my 243 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: agents and they were like, I went on vacation with 244 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: my wife and then when we came back, my wife 245 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: was blocked, locked, stock and barrel, catching up right. 246 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: I mean, people, when everyone watches it, when fucking. 247 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: Crazy for it, and people are We're not the only 248 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: ones who have mixed feelings about Love Island. Okay, other 249 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: people feel the same way about the sexuality, and it's 250 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: but you you can't take your eyes off it. You 251 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: can't take your eyes off it, and the ratings prove it. 252 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: But to bring us back to the green, I have 253 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: a question. 254 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: Why would the ratings be so high when something's on 255 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: every night. 256 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: Because if you're watching them, they keep watching. The people 257 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: feel like you can't miss it. So if you're in it, 258 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: you're in it. 259 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: It's interesting, it's. 260 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: Crazy, it's it's like once you're in it, people are like, 261 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: I can't miss another episode. So normally with reality shows, 262 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: especially the reality shows that we like, it's once a week. 263 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, But what I'm saying to me, we 264 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: got burnout on it. We're laying there one eye open, 265 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,239 Speaker 2: trying to hang on to watch that ship. 266 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: Is a huge I think it's the biggest most watched, 267 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: particularly this season, and match what next season is gonna be. 268 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: That's incredible, crazy, right, that's incredible. Now the spinoff that 269 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: they're trying to do after the Villa, I don't know. 270 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: Do you know about the ratings for that? 271 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't know about After the Villa, which is the 272 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: spinoff of last year's crew Group of Love Island. I personally, again, 273 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, as much as we want to consume everything, 274 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: there's only so many hours in the day. And listen, 275 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: we'll go to the bottom, bottom, bottom, and we'll go 276 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: to the top, top, top, And I'm not going to 277 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: say what I think the bottom, botto bottom is, but 278 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: of course the top, tip top is what we're watching, 279 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: what we're witnessing week after week. Realize wise, in Miami, 280 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: this is high end ars. 281 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: Creme de la creme. It really is. You know what, 282 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: if somebody really asked me to tell you why I 283 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: feel that way, I don't know where to start, because it's. 284 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: Give me if somebody needs. 285 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: Right, If you're a fan of the Housewives franchise, you 286 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: know exactly what I'm talking about. It's like got that 287 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: special something. Yeah, it's got Miami itself is a character, 288 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: and the clothes and the women and I don't know them. 289 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: And the humor. I mean, this last scandal, this last 290 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: couple episodes, you know, with the fight with Gertie. I 291 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: didn't like it, you know. 292 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: But it even had a drink being thrown it. 293 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: Did, you know? And this is a without like the vicious. 294 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: I mean, there's true anger there, but it's almost like 295 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: like you know, poppy bubblegum anger, you know what I mean. 296 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: It's not this like vengeance. You know these shows and 297 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: when we talk about they get really toxic. Yes, like 298 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: what happened to the reboot of New York where it 299 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: gets dark, Like, yes, this is like you're Matt, you said, 300 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: I left my wife when she was cancer to get 301 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: a facelift, even though that's like, dang she did. That's dark, 302 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: but she was getting a facelift, you know what I 303 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: mean By the levity of that, like the facelif part. 304 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: So I don't there's. 305 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: Still these women are still giving what the Housewives franchise, 306 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: I think originally intended to give, which is to see 307 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: women that you want to be friends with, maybe see 308 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: them once a month. Fish, but that you girls that 309 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: you'd like to like, maybe have a dinner with once 310 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: a month. Yes, for the entertainment, I mean these are 311 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: iconic type of chicks. 312 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: Yes, whether they were. 313 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: On TV or not. If you just knew you know 314 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: Larsa or the chick the New Stephanie, if you just 315 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: knew her in life, she would be iconic in your life. 316 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: If you're in a mall in Miami or in a restaurant, 317 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: you'd be like, who is that? Yeah, Like they're just 318 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: captivating going on there? Yeah, what's your deal? Anyway? The 319 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: passing of the iconic Ozzy Osbourne, all his music, what 320 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: he meant to his family, what he meant to so many, 321 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: so many fans. I mean, we told about worldwide fame 322 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: and a ridiculous iconic performer, ridiculous iconic a musician, ridiculous 323 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: iconic reality TV show dad. The passing of the Great 324 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne has happened, and we are sending love thoughts 325 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: to him and his family and may his memory always 326 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: be a blessing, which I know it will be. Another 327 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: piece of information hot. First of all, Sheena See, Oh Sheena, 328 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Sheena Se. Let me tell you something. We always root 329 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: for you, Sheena Se love you. 330 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: Sheena Shae. 331 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: Talk about somebody who put it all on the line 332 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: for year after year, and we literally watched go from 333 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: a twenty something to a young woman and she bumps bruises. 334 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: And when I make the analogy of reality TV stars 335 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: being like fighters, she completely completely epitomizes that Sheena See 336 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: went from being mocked, went from doing the mocking, went 337 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: from being cheated on, went to cheating. She was the 338 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: brunt of jokes. She was the joke giver, She was 339 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: the shit talker and being talked about. Sheena she all 340 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: time yes on Vanderpump Rules. She put it down. 341 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: Good as gold. She did good as gold, good and 342 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: a class act. Because she just sent her new book 343 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 2: to us and she wrote a very sweet card. I'm 344 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: sure she had someone to write it. No, it's it's 345 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: is it her writing? 346 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean it's somebody wrote it in handwriting, but. 347 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: They included me, and I think she included me. 348 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: And she Ena See has always been super duper sweet. 349 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: And the last time I saw Sena, I was doing 350 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: watch what happens live and they do this thing where 351 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: those surprise guests and she Ena Shee came in and I, 352 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: I mean. 353 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: I could not stop laughing your genuine shock and surprise. 354 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: Although I'm not sure why because any one of your 355 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: favorite people could come out that door, but you literally 356 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: look like it was for you and you were so happy. 357 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: It was so adorable. 358 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: Because I really do genuinely like her when I've been 359 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: around her. 360 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's really great. 361 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: She's just sweet. Ye, she's nice. I feel like she's 362 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: well intentioned. Yeah, she has her book, and you know what, 363 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna reach out to Sheen and be like, Yoshina, 364 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I want you to come on the pockets because she 365 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: is doing a full, full tour right now. She's doing 366 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: a full promo tour for her new book, and she 367 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: na see in her new book. This just came out. 368 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: She talked about some of the people she's been with, 369 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: the men she has been with. Let me read this 370 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: list to you, Jesse Metcalf, the actor Eddie Ciprion, which 371 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: this was this is a whole thing with Eddie Ciprion, 372 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: John Mayer. I knew that one she talked about this. 373 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: She talked about that she talks about this. 374 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: She puts us in her book, Shamar Moore. 375 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 2: That one's surprising, but I mean, I'm not surprised. He's 376 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: been with a lot of people. 377 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: Josh Hopkins, the I think it's another actor, Shane West, 378 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: who I don't know who. 379 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: I don't know who that is, Shane. 380 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: West, the writer, I'm not sure. Jesse McCartney, j C 381 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: from the boy band chazz Is he's he's not new 382 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: kids on the bock because he's back. She was, he's 383 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: new kids on the block. J C from one of 384 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: those bands, sorry JC. Adrian Grenere from Entoige. 385 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: I think she's got a type. No, a dark, dark 386 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: haired guy like they all kind of dark. 387 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: And John Mayor, Adrian Greneer, Ricardovera William Tell. She said, 388 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: two actors from the Notebook too. Now, I don't know 389 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: who else is in the Notebook off the top of 390 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: my head besides Ryan Gosling, I don't know. Uh. And 391 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: then she said a few NFL, NBA, and Major League 392 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Baseball players to name a few. 393 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: She did all the major sports. 394 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: And she said, and that's not none of that worked 395 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: out really well. And then she went on to talk about, uh, 396 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, her marriage and settling down and all that stuff. 397 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: But I was like, that is it? That ain't a 398 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: bad list, Like if you're an older woman, an adult woman. 399 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: She's not older, she's young, but adult woman. You look back, 400 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: I was a little you know, I had a good time. 401 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: That's a good time. Yeah, that's something to write about. 402 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: You know. You see me just being quiet because you're 403 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: my husband. Just this subject is like, okay, next do 404 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, I'm like, okay, yes, 405 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: go girl, What am I supposed say? I don't know 406 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: what you want me to say to that. I think 407 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 2: it's pretty bold that she's putting the names out there. 408 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: I want to put the NFL. 409 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 2: I well, I was gonna ask you. I wonder if 410 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: she called those people or maybe she stays in touch 411 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 2: with them and there's a lot of people and that 412 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: that name was going to be out. 413 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean John Mayer. I feel like 414 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: every girl has been with John. 415 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: That's one of like ten names you just read. 416 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know who Ricardo Shavira is. I think 417 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: he's an actor. Also, Nonetheless, she niche we always rock 418 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: with you, We always want nothing but good things for you. 419 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: I'm going to bring that book with me when we 420 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: go to LA. I'm going to read it. 421 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: We're going to be in LA. We're going to be 422 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: in LA, will be staying and not too far from 423 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: the old stomping grounds of pump Rules. Yeah, and the 424 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: old stomping ground. What was the other? Uh, pump rules? 425 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: And come on, not pump rule pump rules Vander? What 426 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: was the name of the original? 427 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: Are we that I don't remember? 428 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 429 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: My wait, pump rules? 430 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: Pump Rules? Was that? 431 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 2: I know that something about her sandwich. 432 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: Place, something about her still popping. 433 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: I believe it is. 434 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: Oh, we need to one hundred and fifty percent finally 435 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: make our pilgrimage to something about her. Sheena set, in 436 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: my opinion, has been underused in season two of The Valley. 437 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: Where are they insert them? 438 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 439 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: Because however, I was reading an article in a publication 440 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: that I won't share to mention because I don't like 441 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: the publication, but I do say they do good articles 442 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: that they were talking about the brilliance and the shock 443 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: value of Jack's and Britney's relationship playing out on TV. 444 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: Jax Taylor another talk about a fighter, love him, hate him? 445 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: Talk about a guy who's laid it all on the 446 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: line whether you like it or not, and I know 447 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: the majority of people don't like it. This fucking guy. 448 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: And I wish this guy nothing but the best, because 449 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: I get worried watching this guy. He makes me nervous. Yeah, 450 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: he makes me nervous for his own sake and for 451 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: the people around him sake. He's not coming back for 452 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: season three of the hit show. The Valley's a hit show, 453 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: despite the fact that people are saying that it's the 454 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: most toxic reality. 455 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: To everyone has said that ever, we said it, and yes, 456 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: people are agreeing that that show is dark. I find it. 457 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: We were going to walk away from it. Remember we 458 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: were like, this is this is too much real life? 459 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: And the other night when we were watching it, you 460 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: were like, this makes me uncomfortable. You say that a 461 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: lot during this show. 462 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: He makes me. He concerns me. 463 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: I think that also. Jesse and Michelle's relationship, you say 464 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: it during the air that relationship either, I think you 465 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: say it during the other Danny and uh, yes, yeah, 466 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: so yeah, there's a lot of relationship sort of it's 467 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: very adult, adult sad stuff that seems like it's okay 468 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 2: because they're on TV. But in real life, if you're 469 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: really really dealing with it could get really, really, really awful. 470 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I do think about 471 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: when I'm watching it is that despite the fact that 472 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: they are showing a darker side to their relationships, at 473 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: least they're all getting paid. There's like, you know, Jackson, 474 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: Brittany's getting paid, Danny and his wife are getting paid, 475 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: you know, so for them it's like, Okay, this is 476 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: a good job. I saw Nick Viali, who I really like. 477 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: I love his podcast, Nick Viali, who of course was 478 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, right he's got his pocket. He said, well, 479 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: everybody on the valley is losers and I was like, oh, 480 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: he did, yeah, and he said it out loud and 481 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: he said it. I think he was on Serious XM. 482 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, I don't like that term. No, 483 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: I don't like calling adults losers. I don't think they 484 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: are losers. They might be flawed, they might be imperfect, 485 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: but I was like, they're not losers. They're people, you know, 486 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: and they're struggling. And despite the fact that what you 487 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: think of this one or what you think of that one, 488 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: it's like there's something that you have to respect as 489 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: a fan of the medium of reality TV that they're 490 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: they're putting it out there. 491 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I think calling them losers 492 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: is not not many people are losers. I mean even 493 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: I know some related to some and you know, and 494 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: there no person is really a real loser if they're trying. 495 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: And I think these people are sharing parts of their 496 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: real life that and it's really courageous. So I don't 497 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: see how he could call them losers. 498 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: Especially because he's so much in the world of it. 499 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that he's saying that. It seems really 500 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: really pretty judgmental. 501 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, But nonetheless, Sheena, she put out 502 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: her hit list. And another person who has an incredible 503 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: list Pistol Pete Davidson. 504 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my goodness. 505 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean I have celebrated this man. I've broken his chops, 506 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: but it's always been in good fun. Pistol Pete Davidson 507 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: is expecting his first child with his new model girlfriend. 508 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: And you want to talk about a list. Somebody sent 509 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: me this list. 510 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: Somebody sent you a list. 511 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: Because I called him one of the great cocksmen stick 512 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 1: his eat, great cocksmen of his era, arguably the greatest 513 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: stick man slash cocksman of his generation. That's TVD that's 514 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: to be determined. But this guy has done it. 515 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: I mean maybe that's why partially he has to check 516 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: himself in for these extended stays and at a health yes, 517 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: because he needs to take a break. 518 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande, Kate beckinsal Madeline Klein, the model Phoebe, some 519 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: other model Olivia, some other model Kaya Gerber, the actress 520 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: Emily Rodakowski, and the other model Chase Sue Wonders. And 521 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: these are the ones we know about. 522 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 2: Hello, you're forgetting our favorite. 523 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: Hello reality TV. That's that listen I just mentioned forgets 524 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: the favorite. 525 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: Post Kanye Wow, an incredible kind, I mean post Kanye 526 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: during Kanye, he had to deal with him. I mean 527 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: that should give him ten more points. 528 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: Somebody said, does he make it into the Stickman Hall 529 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: of Fame? And I said, yes, he will make it 530 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: into the Stickman Hall of Fame when the induction takes place. 531 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: Somebody said, uh, does he get a building named after him? 532 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: I said no, that's. 533 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't make it into the Stickman Hall 534 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: of him. I hope he goes on. It's a blessing 535 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: that he's having a child. He's been troubled for a 536 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: lot of his life, and he's been very, very blessed 537 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: in taking care of people who know that him, love 538 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: him deeply, yes, and look out for him. And I 539 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: think this is a changing season for his life, and 540 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: I'm wishing that he stays out of your Stickman Hall 541 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: of Fame's. 542 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: Never if that's said up many. 543 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: You just named a few girls that I don't even 544 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: know who these people are. I mean, Kim Kardashian is 545 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: the number one. I don't. I don't know why he 546 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: would make it. 547 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: Sorry, he's not like Jack singing songs about him. Oh right, 548 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: It's not about the numbers. It's not about it's a quality. 549 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: It's a quality and right because he did it with class, 550 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: like despite the first that's right. 551 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: Nobody's shaming him and dragging him through the mud, and. 552 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: He's har for love. I feel like Pete Davidson really, 553 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: I wish him the best because the times that I've read, 554 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: I met him and spoken to him couldn't be sweeter. 555 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: He's like a great dame to me, very sweet, lovable, 556 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: big great dame. 557 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: And he will definitely be in the stick Man Hall 558 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: of Fame, whether or not he makes and gets and 559 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: earns a wing or a building after him, No, just 560 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: a recap. The only person that has a building named 561 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: after him is of course the great Warren Baby. And 562 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: then of course there's the Jack Nicholson Auditorium in the 563 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: Stickman Hall of Fame. And of course we are building 564 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: currently the Leonardo DiCaprio Wing in the Stickman Hall of Fame. 565 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: Other than that, you know, just give away buildings. But 566 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: kudos to Pete Davidson and his girlfriend and we wish 567 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: him nothing but the best. Always pistol Pete Davidson, who 568 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: might be off the streets for good. The other thing 569 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: that I wanted to ask you about, Babe, hot couple 570 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: alert because it's a summer. 571 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: It's a sign you're gonna talk about. And this is 572 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: my favorite subject. Current favorite subject. 573 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: Clay Thompson, one of my favorite basketball players of the 574 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: modern era, who is now with the Dallas Mavericks, who 575 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: gave me joy. Yeah, as a Golden State Warrior, the 576 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: best and Megan does Stallion have went public. They are 577 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: taking photos together. 578 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: Working out together. I mean the video of them working 579 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: out together. I think I watched it seven times, literally 580 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: started it over because she does this cute little voiceover 581 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: of it, and then he's like lifting her up and 582 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: he's touching her butt and she's like, Oh, she's so 583 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: funny and so cute. This is the couple of the 584 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 2: year that we didn't know we needed. 585 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something. I know you probably 586 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: don't know that much about Klay Thompson's persona. It's hard 587 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: to get five words out of him his social media. 588 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: He's never done a video like that. 589 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: That's like crazy. 590 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: He's on the down low. Kay Thompson, in case you 591 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: guys don't know, his father was a professional basketball player, 592 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: Klay Thompson. If you've ever seen interviews with him as 593 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: a basketball player, it's literally like hard to get him 594 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: to speak. He's introverted. He seems like he's extremely shy. He's, 595 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, kind of quirky for a basketball player, especially 596 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: like a swaggy basketball player. Like when he was in 597 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: San Francisco, he would ride a boat to I don't 598 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: know the geography of San Francisco, Oakland, but he would 599 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: he would ride his own boat across the bay. 600 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: Amazing, and uh. 601 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: You know, he just was such a great player. But 602 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: but I mean so fucking quiet and so like you know, 603 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: shy Steph Curry, you know, is comfortable being Steph Curry's funny, 604 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: got a such humor and he's not on full blest. 605 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: But Klay Thompson be like the guy at at the 606 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: press conference. He'd score fifty points and be like, how'd 607 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: you feel, claims like, you know, I felt good, very 608 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: about his business, completely understated. So for him to be 609 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: on social media doing a funny video, he must really 610 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: be in love. And Megan the Stallion everybody nothingbody's got 611 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: nothing to say as. 612 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: Bad about her. She's so lovely. I love her so much. 613 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: He's funny, witty, strong, beautiful, He's gorgeous. I just love 614 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: this for them me too. 615 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: I love it for both of them. And you know, 616 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: ma'ma call him Clay. I'm gonna call him Clay. And 617 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: obviously it's early in the relationship and they are young, 618 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: they're famous and all that stuff. But I could see 619 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: this working out. 620 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I could see it working out. 621 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: Clay Thompson is about his shit, and Klay Thompson is 622 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: He's not one of those guys who you ever hear 623 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: anything bad about. I don't know, you know, what he 624 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: did in his private life before you know Magan the Stallion, 625 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: but the fact that he's public with her now, I think. 626 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: They're a perfect match, to be honest, now that you're 627 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: telling me about him, she's just as unique. 628 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Clay's coming to the last few years of 629 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: his NBA career because Klay Thompson has been in the 630 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: league for a long time. And like I said, that 631 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: fucking guy gave me joy with the Golden State Warriors. 632 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean sincere joy, I know I was there anyway, 633 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: Rappaport's reality. What else can I say? It's time to 634 00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: go to bed. 635 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: This is gonna be something first. I made something you 636 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: have leftovers from last night if you're hungry. 637 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: Fantastic. What are they? 638 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 2: It's like a little chickpea pasta with ground turkey. You know, 639 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: ground turkey, but chickpea pasta. 640 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: Like, what does that mean? 641 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: Chickpen It's made out of chickpias pasta. It's pasta. It's 642 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: shape like pasta, but it's made from chickpeas. You've had it. 643 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: Before, Mama corn pasta. A'm com pasta chickpea pasta. I'll 644 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: take what, listen, I'll take whatever you're throwing for my 645 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: wife Kibi. She'll go, what do you think? Or what 646 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: do you? And I go, what do I want to eat? Whatever? 647 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: Whatever's thrown in front of me. The three cook, but 648 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: you're just like should gets its kudos. We're gonna do 649 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: a fucking dinner party. We're gonna find like the four 650 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: biggest fans of Rappa Ports Reality and have them come 651 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: over and let Kibi cook. I'm not saying you're like, uh, 652 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a no no, but you're as 653 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: far as somebody who could throw down at home. 654 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: I can make something happen in the kitchen, for. 655 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: Sure, Kibi makes shit. 656 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: But also you didn't grow up eating like that. Yeah, 657 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: so like I could throw anything literally from the kitchen 658 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: to the couch into your mouth and you eat it. 659 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent true. But I get way better 660 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: food than I grew up with a single dad in York. Anyway, 661 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't need to deep dive into that. What I 662 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: would like you guys to do is to make sure 663 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: you tell a friend to telling friend about rap Aports 664 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: Reality because we love doing the podcast. Subscribe rating review 665 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: absolutely helps, and make sure make sure you follow us 666 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: on Instagram at rap aports reality. We are done. I 667 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 1: can't wait to have these leftovers and then go to sleep. 668 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: Love you, baby, Love you babe.