1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Colts Free Agent Preview Podcast. Look at 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: some key in house free agents this offseason. Now here's 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor from the Indiana 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Union Construction Industry Radio studio. 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Ah yes, thanks for coming back once again. This is 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: the Free Agent Preview podcast series here on Colts dot 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Com Colts Audio Network. Welcome inside the Indiana Union Construction 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: Industry a radio studio. Get on, Matt Taylor with the 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: legendary Phil Brooks. Say hello, Billy. There you go again, Matt, 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: you go again. 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: The headshake. 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: I love to try trying to make you feel uncomfortable, 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: and you do a good job. You're Bill Brooks, Casey Value, 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: the most humble guy we know, probably in that. 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: Came easily, easily, the most humble guy. He doesn't take 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: any credit for anything, legendary status. He just stares at me, 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: doesn't even let's let's move on. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: That's move on. Legendary Bill Brooks, the steadfast Casey. 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: Value, legendary. 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're you're loyal and consistent. That's all we 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: can ask for. Take it, gentlemen. The Combine week is here. Combine. 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: This is Monday. Combine. Really kind of starts an earnest 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: I guess tomorrow, Casey, with all of the media, depending 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: on who you are, kind of redescending on Indianapolis, if 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: you were here covering both football and basketball, if you 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: kind of had double duty for the NBA All Star 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: weekend festivities, welcome back to the Circle city here. 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's gonna be a busy time. I 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: mean you think with with March Madness and all that 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: stuff coming right around the corner too. So a lot 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: of these guys that cover multiple sports that we're making 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: a couple of trips here. 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: And you know what, it just are those games. 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: At Lucas Oil first and second round games or a 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: game bridge this year? 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: Exactly? Sure, I know that there are games here and 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: they're in town. They're in town. It's one of those 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: things at the tip of the cap to the City 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: of Indianapolis. I mean, you want to talk about hosting events, 41 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: they do it better than anybody. And I mean it 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: was crumby weather for the All Star break, but everything 43 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: seemed like it went off without a hitch, which is 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: not at all a surprise with how good Indianapolis does 45 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: for things like this. 46 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 2: I suspect those games are going to be a game 47 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: bridge for first and second round. But nevertheless, I should 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: say they are in town coming up in late March. 49 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: We're gonna hear from general manager Chris Ballard and Shane 50 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: Steichen later this week at the Combine. We'll have plenty 51 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: of good guests. Our guest lineup this week is shaping 52 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: up to be pretty good at the Combine, so we'll 53 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: put out some good interviews and sit downs on the 54 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: draft and some thoughts from national folks on what the 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: Colt should do in free agency. So stay tuned for 56 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: all of that later this week here on the Colts 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: Audio Network. But the Free Agent Tracker continues today. So 58 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: far we have previewed Michael Pittman, Junior Gardner Minshew, We've 59 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: taken a look at Zach Moss, Kenny Moore, the Second, 60 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: Grover Stewart, and Julian Blackman. And today we're talking about 61 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: all things special teams, talking about the third phase of 62 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: the game. Punter Rigaberto Sanchez is also a free agent 63 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: as well, and Bill, before we dive in there, I mean, 64 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: Rigo was one of the great comeback stories for the 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: Colts this past season. 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: You could you. 67 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: Could literally physically see him getting better and more impactful 68 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: week by week coming off his torn achilles from twenty 69 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: twenty two exactly. 70 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: You know when he did Teres achilles and then that 71 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: was a big blow to him and a big blow 72 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: to the team not having the re goo out there. 73 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 4: And then you know what, he came back slowly, did 74 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 4: it right, did his rehab right, got right. You know, 75 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: it got off to a little slow start in the season, 76 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 4: but he picked it up as the season went on, 77 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 4: and you saw how effective he was out there punng 78 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: the ball, penning teams back in their own end zone, 79 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: in their own in i should say, and doing a 80 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: nice job for special teams. 81 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, no end zones there, you know. Rigaberto Sanchez. No touchbacks. 82 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. But the capsule here just wrapped 83 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: up his seventh season with the Colts. Unbelievable. Rigaberto Sanchez 84 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: has been here every year since being an undrafted free 85 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: agent with the Colts since twenty and seventeen. Last year, 86 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: he posted a career high forty eight point seven average 87 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: in overall average gross average, had a net average of 88 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: forty two point three. He had twenty one punts inside 89 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: the twenty yard line. He was also the only punter 90 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: in the NFL, as we said, to not record a 91 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: touchback backing up once again his great ability to place 92 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: the ball directionally. It was also a really good bounce 93 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: back season four him twenty twenty two, as we mentioned, 94 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: went down with that torn achilles during conditioning sprints late 95 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: in training camp up at Grand Park. Would go on 96 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: to miss the entire season, had a long road of 97 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: recovery to get back, also experience some adversity back in 98 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty we remember there miss part of the season 99 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: after he had a cancerous tumor removed just days after 100 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving of that year. And because of that, Sanchez rightfully 101 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 2: so selected by his teammates as the recipient of the 102 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty ed Block Courage Awards. That's the capsule casey 103 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: on Rigoberto Sanchez. This is actually the first time Rego 104 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: hits free agency. So how much urgency should the Colts 105 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: have to re sign They're a great punter that's been 106 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: with them for seven years now. 107 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if the word is urgency just because 108 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: of the position. I'm not in those you know, GM 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: rooms and all of that. I don't know where punter 110 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: is on top targets you must go get. But one 111 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: thing I do remember is the first signing that Chris 112 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: Ballard made when he came here in twenty seventeen was 113 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: that he signed was a Jeff Locke, the punter from 114 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: Minnesota who ultimately was beat out by Rego as an 115 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: undrafted guy. So clearly there is an emphasis put on it. 116 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: And when you look at the you know, the career 117 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 3: that Rego has had, you know, Bill talked about it, 118 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: You talked about it, no touchbacks. He seemingly is a 119 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: guy He's not gonna always have the biggest leg. You 120 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: look at you know, gross and net average, it's not 121 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: always going to be up at the top. But what 122 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: I always look at is those touchback numbers, and it 123 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: seems like every week this field position it came down to, 124 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: you know, who's gonna win the field position battle, And 125 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: that is one of the things that Rego has always 126 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: been able to be really really good at among the 127 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: tops in the NFL. So I don't know if urgent 128 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: see is the word, but it's definitely if you're looking 129 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: at guys to target, he's probably a top that list. 130 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: When the culture looking at punters just because they know 131 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: what they have him as a punter, and also the 132 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: importance that he has as a holder in the kicking 133 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: game as well. 134 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you on that 135 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 4: on in case it because I think definitely don't know 136 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: how high on the list he is, but he does 137 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: have value to a team. He definitely adds value to 138 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 4: the team. And you mentioned the punting and penning teams 139 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: back in their own end. That goes a long way 140 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 4: for a team. You can kind of flip field position 141 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: that way and pin a team back. The defense gets 142 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: out there, make some plays, keep them back in. They 143 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 4: punt the ball back to the offense. Offense get the 144 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 4: ball in good field position, right. It creates an opportunity 145 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: for the team to go out through and score points. 146 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: And that's how you play good, complimentary football. So you 147 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: get a puner that can do his job and do 148 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: it effectively within the scheme of the special teams with 149 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: the punt that goes a long ways for a team. 150 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, in case he piggybacking off what you said, I mean, 151 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: you're right, he's not going to be confused with the 152 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: biggest leg in the NFL. But that doesn't make him 153 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: any less of a weapon. Right, since twenty seventeen, Rego's 154 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: averaging forty four point eight yards per punt, which ranks 155 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: twentieth in that time. But when it comes to controlling 156 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: field position and being able to pen teams into bad 157 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: field position, Casey with just this magic trick that he 158 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: seems to have with his directional punting, you know, the 159 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: spin of the ball, being able to kind of let it, 160 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: it just always seems like the ball just kind of 161 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: dies or peters out for lack of a better term, 162 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: inside the ten yard line, giving the Colts punt coverage 163 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: team a chance to get down the field and down 164 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: the punt. But it's also it angles towards the sidelines, 165 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: so no return is possible as well. So in that regard, Casey, 166 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: how much of a weapon has Rego been in the 167 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: third phase of the game supplying negative field position consistently 168 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: for the opposition, which doesn't really always show up on 169 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: the box score, and it's not kind of on on 170 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: the top of fans minds when they recap the game 171 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: the next day at the water Cooper, Right. 172 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: And and that's it. That's exactly the way I kind 173 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: of would look at it, is control and weapon because 174 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: that's what he is. He's not I don't know how 175 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: to describe it. I'm a big baseball guy, and almost 176 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: you almost look at it as like he's like Jamie Moyer. 177 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: He's not going to go out and throw the hardest, 178 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: but somehow it works. You know, it's you know, Greg Maddox. 179 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: He's able to place the ball so well. He's not 180 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: going to blow ninety eight mile hour fastballs by you, 181 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: but he just can put it so well on. 182 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: Reds guy. 183 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: But I think that's just that's just what he does 184 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 3: so well, is he's able to control the outcome of 185 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: his punts a lot better than a majority of punters 186 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: in the league. I mean, I look at the guy 187 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: that's punting in one of the the AFC South Foes 188 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: in Tennessee and Ryan Stonehouse. He can punt the ball 189 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,239 Speaker 3: eighty yards the moon, but he had like fifteen touchbacks 190 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: this year. So it's like it's the giver or take. 191 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: It's like, do you want the big, big leg or 192 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: do you want the guy that you know what, he 193 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: may not get a he's not gonna boot it sixty 194 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: yards every time, but he's gonna put it right where 195 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: it's going to be setting up the opposing team for 196 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: long fields. And I take the ladder any time of 197 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: the day. 198 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think you want to punt that can 199 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: punt within the system, within your team, because to me, 200 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: part of it is having a punk coverage unit that 201 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: can get down there. I always out kick, you kick 202 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 4: your and they have an opportunity to have a big 203 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 4: return the opposing team, and you don't want to do that. 204 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 4: So you want a guy that's gonna stay within the system, 205 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: kick it enough so that, hey, you know what, it 206 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: gets the guys back further down there, good hang time 207 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: and give your punch coverage team time to get down 208 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 4: there and kind of surround the partment return and make 209 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 4: him make a fair catch or try to return it 210 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: and tack him for a loss or for a very 211 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: short game. 212 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: And that's one thing I always look at. When you 213 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: look at Rigo's gross to net average, it's always very 214 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: very close. And that's where I always put, well, this 215 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: is how good of a punter he has been. Because 216 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: he's punting it forty six yards and they're getting a 217 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: yard or two on a return. That's what you want. 218 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: You don't want that gross and net to be ten 219 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: yards off, and that's where yea rego. He's definitely been 220 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: one as far as we can remember here. It's been 221 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: a lot of good punters to come through, and he 222 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: replaced the guy in Pat McAfee was a really good 223 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: punter and he's done a really good job replacing those 224 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: shoes now. 225 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: All good points, and I just go back to what 226 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: we talked about at the beginning. I mean, at the 227 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: beginning of the season, the leg strength and rightfully so, 228 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: considering what he was coming off of, it wasn't there. 229 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't what we were used to. The hangtime wasn't there, 230 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: and that coincides with you know, punt coverage ability as well. 231 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: The hangtime wasn't there. That led to some big punt 232 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: return numbers at the beginning of the season, and in 233 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: a game where hidden yards are everything and a game 234 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: of benches all those cliches, that really matters. But as 235 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: the season went on, the leg strength came back, the 236 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: confidence came back, the hangtime really improved, and thus you know, 237 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: Colts coverage units improved on covering punts. That leads us 238 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: bill to the value there. How much value should the 239 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: Colts put on a veteran punter because Rego himself, as 240 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: case he alluded to, he landed on the team beating 241 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: out a veteran veteran free agent Jeff Locke, who the 242 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: Colts signed back in twenty seventeen. So based on where 243 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: Rego's at, based on where the Colts are at with 244 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: a lot of prime if you will in house free agents, 245 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: some marquee in house free agents that we've already discussed, 246 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: does another undrafted free agent punter make sense for the 247 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 2: Colts based on just financials and where this team is 248 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: at right now. 249 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: Well, I think if you're looking at just financials, of course, 250 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: I think that would help the Colts out. If you're 251 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: looking at just financials when you want to sign other 252 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: guys on your team in house free. 253 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: Agent, I play offense and defense. 254 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: That's right, exactly, play offense and defense. So if you 255 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 4: want to sign those guys that it was great. But 256 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: when you look at what someone values, someone can bring 257 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: to the team and how they can help a team, 258 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 4: I think having a veteran punter on the team goes 259 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: a long ways because if you have a veteran punner, 260 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: he understands the things that he needs to do. Rego 261 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: understands that he needs to put the ball in a 262 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 4: certain spot. He doesn't need to have the highest gross 263 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: average or pun the ball and the ball down the field. 264 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 4: As we talked about earlier, I'll kicking your coverage, so 265 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: to speak. You want a guy back there to understands 266 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 4: what's going on, what you want to do out there 267 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: in the football field, and punt within your system so 268 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: that punk coverage you and you can get down there, 269 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 4: make tackles, have a good net average okay in comparison 270 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: to your gross average. So I think having a veteran 271 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: would go a long ways for the team because I'm 272 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: a big believer in complementary football. If you can pin 273 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 4: a team back and let your defense do his job, 274 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: get the ball back to the offense, let them do 275 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 4: the job. Everyone has a role, and this is punt 276 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: team is just one part of that role in regards 277 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: to playing complimentary football from offensive defense standpoint. 278 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: And I also think and that this goes back to 279 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: me talking about at the top with the punter market 280 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: and where the you know, the scale is, where you 281 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: put it in your priority list. I don't know if 282 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: signing a veteran punter is going to be one of 283 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: those things that's going to impact your ability to sign 284 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: somebody else. When you look at cap space and all 285 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: of that, you aren't going to allocate a whole bunch 286 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: of money at the punter because it's just not that 287 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: desired position where you're going to be paying that much. 288 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: So I don't think it's one of those things where 289 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: you look at, oh, you got to go with the 290 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: younger and cheaper option because we need to sign x, 291 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: X and Y, because I don't think you're going to 292 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: get into that situation. But I do understand from you know, 293 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: you look at the financials down the road, and also 294 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: a guy in year eight heading and all of that 295 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: plays into it. But I don't know if it's going 296 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: to really hamstring you as far as financials go in 297 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 3: what his contract would. 298 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: Be, and going back to what you talked about earlier 299 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: that this isn't a one trick pony hero. This is 300 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: one of the best skilled players on your team. He 301 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: doesn't handle kickoffs anymore, at least he didn't last year. 302 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 2: Matt and Gay primarily took over those responsibilities. But Rigo 303 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: Sanchez has been in years past consistently the Colts kickoff 304 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: specialist and done a really good job in controlling field 305 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: position there. Directional kicking is really good in that regard 306 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: as well, but also as a holder case you talked 307 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: about it earlier. How much value does does he hold 308 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: in the success of the kicking game and Matt Gay. 309 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the Colts don't beat the Ravens last year 310 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: without Rigoberto Sanchez precisely holding all those fifty yard field 311 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: goals for Matt Gay. 312 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: That's that's where the big one comes in because guys 313 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: like Luke Rhodes and Matt Gay, they understand the importance 314 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: that Rego is on that unit. When you when you 315 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: look at that trio, those those three specialists that when 316 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: we go out to practice, they're off doing their own thing. 317 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: You know, they're they're working on certain things. There's a 318 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: reason that that's a I mean, it's a very well 319 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: polished group, and. 320 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: He cares deeply about doing it well. 321 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: Yes, that that is, that is so true. And then 322 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: then part of the big reason about that is because 323 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: of how good Rego is as a holder and that 324 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: that's gonna be the biggest ultimately when you think about 325 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: if you replace him, you're gonna have to find somebody 326 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: who can slide into that role because that's a big one. 327 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: I mean you we all know the price stag that 328 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: Matt Gay got last year, and in large part because 329 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: of that, you expect him to go out and do 330 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: his job. Well, you knew you had a guy holding 331 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: who could make him do his job. 332 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: And it's all about details. 333 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: Yes, that's gonna be a big, a big issue you 334 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: got to look at when you go to if you 335 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: are replacing a guy like Rigo Sanchez this offseason, that 336 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: is a big part of it, for sure. 337 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: I love that story Bill about Rigo Sanchez's wife snapping 338 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: balls to Rego in the living room, like while they're 339 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: watching like Cis or something. You know like that. That's 340 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: dedication up there. When the wife gets involved, that is. 341 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: When you get the whole family involved. 342 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: That is dedication. 343 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: And you know, give him, give him credit. He wanted 344 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: to be out there, he wanted to be doing something 345 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: that's gonna help him get better. So you know, he 346 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: had his wife help him out. So that that's great, 347 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: you know, get the whole family involved. But you know 348 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: what the thing is with that operation from a snap 349 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: to the hole to the kick. People take it for 350 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: granted for the most part. You know, hey, extra point, 351 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: we're gonna make it. And the only time you might 352 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 4: not take it for granted as a fifty yard field goal, 353 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: you know, something along like that. But for the most part, 354 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: extra points. People take that for granted, and that operation 355 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: has to be on point in order to make sure 356 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 4: you get it just an extra point one point, So 357 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: it's very important you shouldn't take that for granted. And 358 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: not just the holder and the kicker, but also the 359 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: snapper as well, so all those individuals play a part 360 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: and making sure that point that ball gets through the 361 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: uprise and you get a point. 362 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: Right, all right. 363 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: Last thing here, when it comes to special teams and 364 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: Rigaberto Sanchez and free agency, I haven't dug too deep 365 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: into this, maybe you guys have. But when it comes 366 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: to special teams, when it comes to kicking, when it 367 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: comes to punting, how did the teams that went far 368 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, Let's say, teams that were in the 369 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: AFC Championship game, NFC Championship, how do their kickers and 370 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: punters comprise their ability to get far into the playoffs? 371 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: Have you done the research there casey at all? 372 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting because I would look at the 373 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: Super Bowl and it's kind of a flip of both teams. 374 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: You had a rookie kicker and Jake Moody for the 375 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: forty nine ers, and then you had a guy like 376 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: Harrison Bucker who's a great experienced kicker for the Chiefs, 377 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: and Tommy Townsend was their punter, a very very well 378 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: respected and well rounded punter. You know, you talk about 379 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: AFC Championship game, there was the Baltimore Ravens, and everybody 380 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: knows what Justin Tucker is. So I'm sure there are ways, 381 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: and I'm sure every team has another, you know, their 382 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: own method on it. And I would say that it's 383 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 3: not imperative that you have a marquee best of the 384 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: best guy, right, but it doesn't hurt because, you know, 385 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: especially in the Super Bowl, in an AFC Championship game 386 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: where every snap is so crucial, and if you can 387 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: win the field position battle as we mentioned, or if 388 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 3: it comes down to making sure that your execution on 389 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: a long field goal is flawless and you have that, 390 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 3: you know, that great connection between long snapper and holder 391 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: and your kicker, it goes a long way. And it's 392 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: it's interesting that they kind of bring that up because 393 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: I think you did see kind of two sides of it, 394 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: especially in the kicking game in the Super Bowl with 395 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: a rookie and a guy who's experience. But in the punters, 396 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 3: if you look at it kind of around all those 397 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 3: punters were all experienced guys, kind of late in the postseason. 398 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: So I would assume that it plays a little bit 399 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: of a part of it for sure. 400 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 4: Well, I mean you look at the Super Bowl. I 401 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: look at the Super Bowl. Look at the Kansasty Chiefs 402 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: punter Townsend. He averaged fifty point eight. He net it 403 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: fifty point eight. Ye, so he has some good hang time, yes, 404 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 4: And pump protection was good. As far as people getting 405 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 4: down the field, that plays a huge part, and we 406 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 4: talked about it earlier. Flipping the field, just flipping the field, 407 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: so you have so to make the other team go 408 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 4: the whole field, try to score points and make it 409 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 4: difficult for him. So I think it plays a part, 410 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: you know, Like I said, Like you said, I don't 411 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 4: think you have to have the greatest or the best, 412 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 4: but I think you have to have a punter or 413 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: special teams players that play within the scheme of your 414 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: your your special teams and can be effective. You don't 415 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 4: have to have the biggest punting average or you don't 416 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 4: have the most hang time, but just enough to make 417 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: sure your guys get down there, cover your guys and 418 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: minimize the other team's returns or effectingness special teams. 419 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tommy Townsend from Kansas City, he was seventeenth in gross, 420 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: twenty first in return average, which now Ski fourteenth and 421 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: gross nineteenth in return. Jack Fox from Detroit twenty first 422 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: in gross, eleventh in return and Jordan's Stout from Baltimore 423 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: he was thirteenth in gross thirty first in return average. 424 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: That shows you right there, it's not imperative. But listen, 425 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: you want weapons on your team, right You want as 426 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: many weapons on your team as possible, and Rigaberto Sanchez 427 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: is a weapon. And every offseason for every NFL team 428 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: is about filling holes. And if you can fill a 429 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: hole with bringing back Rigaberto Sanchez on a sweet spot contract, meaning, 430 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: like you said, case, you give him what he's worth 431 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: and it falls within the range of what a good 432 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: punter should make and not taking away money from being 433 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: able to sign other positions than hell yeah, hell yeah. 434 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: I would love to see Rigo back for his eighth 435 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: season and beyond and quite frankly, selfishly, he said this 436 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: a lot about all of these players. Just good, good guys, wonderful, 437 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: good people, wonderful Rigo is an unbelievable conversation, a wonderful 438 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: human being. So selfishly you want those guys back in 439 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: the locker room to make our lives easy. 440 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, he has a great, great, great heart, good person, 441 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 4: good family man. Just I really like where you go. 442 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: I like what he stands for sure and what he 443 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 4: goes out there, and he gives a lot to the team, 444 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: and he cares about his teammates. So a very very 445 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: good man. 446 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: It's all about us. If you haven't figured that out 447 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: so far, come on now. That's all you need to 448 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: know on Rigaberto Sanchez and his free agency leading into 449 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: March thirteenth, the start of the new league year, We'll 450 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: have tons of stuff, as we said, coming from the 451 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: Combine later this week chats, I should say, press conferences 452 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: with Chris Ballard, Shane Steichen, and plenty of conversations from 453 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: other local markets and national folks as well, so stay 454 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: tuned for that later this week as well. From the Combine, 455 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: will also continue free agent previews next week talking about Tavan, Brian, 456 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: Ronnie Harrison, Taekwon Lewis, and Jake Martin. All of those 457 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: capsules coming up in the coming days. But for Casey Value, 458 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: Bill Brooks, I'm Matt Taylor, and we will talk to 459 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: you later this week from the Combine right here on 460 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: the Colts Audio Network. So long,