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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack

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Speaker 1: and Kyler, and we are on a mission to find

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Speaker 1: the greatest game of all time. On today's episode, we

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Speaker 1: and Oscar Winner and Boston legend Casey Affleck. Some of

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Speaker 1: We get into talking his new movie The Instigators on

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Speaker 3: It's hard to hate Strahan.

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Speaker 1: Dude, He's good morning to America. You gotta stick around

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Speaker 1: Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. July twenty fourth,

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Speaker 1: Of give whatever you want, Give whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: That's the reading. Yeah, that was Strong and the Idiots

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Speaker 1: Scruffy beards versus frosted tips, A century of bad blood

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Speaker 1: is finally boiling over. This is Verit versus Rod photover

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Speaker 1: Hey man, you got that. It looks like you got

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Speaker 1: little two Seamer two seamer right there, Welcome to Games

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Speaker 1: with names, Casey. I appreciate you coming, and we are

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Speaker 1: talking about the A Rod versus Veritech Red Sox versus

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Speaker 1: Yankees July twenty fourth, two thousand and four game. Why'd

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Speaker 3: We can talk about all of it.

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Speaker 2: You never had him on the show.

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Speaker 1: Han't had no, dude, He's kind of boring. Interview Were

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 1: Bro come on, man, listen.

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Speaker 2: When people come on to that, all they want to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. But that's the fun part of it.

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Speaker 1: Because our show is I always pitch it to people

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Speaker 1: Had? I mean, he's an older man now, he's an

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Speaker 1: How was it Working with was great? Yeah, he was amazing.

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Speaker 2: I Mean usually when someone is like really talented in

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Speaker 2: Was Grog always worried about the check in the locker

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Speaker 3: He was more upset than he hasn't got any roles since.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he said he was waiting on the next call.

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Speaker 2: When you have that sense of entitlement, you know what

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Speaker 2: I say it now, if Gronk was in the room,

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Speaker 1: If Gronk was in the room, it just me you'd

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Speaker 1: I always describe him as just a big ass golden retriever.

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Speaker 2: I had to beat him in ping pong though on

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Speaker 1: Did you beat him? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean I'd be Gronk wingspan is like nine feet.

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Speaker 2: I transitioned to the the real bouncing ones. You can

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Speaker 1: Those better paddles. Brings it to a whole nother. No,

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Speaker 1: Like we That's what we used to do for four

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Speaker 2: I saw that the doc about you. I remember you

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Speaker 2: describing your daily routine not ending with you an hour

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Speaker 1: That was so that was when Ammondola was there. So

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Speaker 2: Then you clean it up.

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Speaker 1: I that or i'd leave time when he left because

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Speaker 1: five years. You know, I played eight years without him

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Speaker 1: or six. I'm not a math guy, so I would

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Speaker 1: put video games in a category where it's like my

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Speaker 2: So those games, they have a bad reputation, but they're

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Speaker 1: Sometimes if you're playing a sweaty ass, a little fucking

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Speaker 2: Anyone? I mean, any movie. I'm on, we got a tournament.

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Speaker 2: I'll start a tournament on instigators.

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Speaker 1: I won. The whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Was like, it's you know, the whole crew, the whole cast, everyone,

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Speaker 2: My son can beat me now sometimes, which is sometimes

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Speaker 2: see you. I see the wheels turning, and you're wondering

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Speaker 2: for what take me?

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Speaker 1: Well, you just said there when your sun beach. It

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Speaker 1: Man, I would go home. So he trained me a

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make the pros.

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Speaker 1: I played, to the point of until I got to

437
00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. It wasn't until that time, because I played

438
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: a different position, there's always another guy that was supposed

439
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: to be the guy. They never really talked about me.

440
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: There's talked about my deficiencies. So I was always kind

441
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: of that guy. M So sometimes I don't know if

442
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: you believe it, but you're so trapped in trying to

443
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: prove people wrong that you're not thinking about I wasn't

444
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: thinking about that. I was just trying to I'm fucking

445
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: better than this guy. You know. I was dealt with

446
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 1: with what was on my plate at that time, you know.

447
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: I mean the way that people to think of you,

448
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: like your story is sort of at least for young people,

449
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: like I coached my kids in football and soccer and

450
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: stuff and was like the guy who never was on

451
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: the fast track. People weren't going like, yeah, you're the

452
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 2: you're definitely gonna make it, you're the superstar, You're gonna

453
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: be the thing. But you persevered and you kept going

454
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: and you kept going, And those are the most important

455
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: stories for those kids, you know for sure, because a

456
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: lot of them are like they don't feel that way,

457
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: you know, they don't feel like he's always going to

458
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: be some kid you get in some tournament, even if

459
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: you're the best in your league, you end up some

460
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,239
Speaker 2: tournament Vegas and just get destroyed by the kids from

461
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: Arizona or whatever.

462
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: You know.

463
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: So there's always those moments where you feel like, oh, damn,

464
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people better than I am, and

465
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: if they don't have someone to point to and think

466
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: of as like that guy who ended up being that superstar,

467
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: he also was that way too as a kid, you know,

468
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: then you lose hope. So you were always someone that

469
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 2: like the kids thought of. It was like, I don't

470
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: be like that, dude, you know.

471
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah, when did you feel like you? Never? Never?

472
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: I never felt like I was never treated like, oh,

473
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 2: this kid's gonna be success. Anytime I was in a

474
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 2: room with people that were very successful, the attitude was

475
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: kind of like, what's he doing here?

476
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

477
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: Like, hey kid, you know you must be happy to

478
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: be in this room, you know.

479
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: And I felt that, Yeah, I keep going yeah.

480
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: And I And it was It wasn't always. It didn't

481
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: always make me think, yeah, man, I am here, Like

482
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: didn't fill me with pride and confidence. A lot of

483
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: time it would knock you down a bit and make

484
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: you go like, man.

485
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm not.

486
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: I'm really like they must there must be something about

487
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: me that says I don't really belong in the upper

488
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 2: tier of people. And wherever my field is, you're you know,

489
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 2: sometimes I show up like I did Ocean's eleven, you

490
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like all these big stars in it.

491
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: And there was a big dinner the night before we

492
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: were gonna start, and one of the producers said, you know,

493
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: I hadn't even met him yet, you know what I mean,

494
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: like movie, and he was like, nice to meet you.

495
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: You're very lucky to be here, and I was like, damn.

496
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: I was just starting to feel like okay, like I

497
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: can compete, I can play with these guys or whatever,

498
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: you know, But forever there was someone there to remind me, like,

499
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: you weren't really destined to be this at this level,

500
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I started to enjoy

501
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: that because I would think, like, Okay, you think I'm

502
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: lucky to be here. I know it's it has a

503
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 2: lot to do with my own like grit. You know.

504
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: I didn't take no for an answer. I kept going

505
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 2: it wasn't handed to me and I wasn't born with

506
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: the like face or the this or the that that

507
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: says this guy's a movie star. So I would start

508
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 2: to reframe that sort of semi rejection as a compliment,

509
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 2: you know, of like what I've been able to achieve.

510
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: And so even when I was like nominated for like

511
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: an Academy award or win one, it was still like

512
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 2: people would say, like the outsider, you know what I mean,

513
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: Like they would call me certain things, is like the

514
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: long shot, the this and the that, and I'd be like, okay, good,

515
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm a long shot. Okay, I'll take it, you know

516
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: what I mean, I'll take it. Yeah, So I started

517
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: to enjoy it, but it's still that way.

518
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: You know. Do you think that that thought of what

519
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: you feel that people or those experiences that you've had

520
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,239
Speaker 1: has made you the way you are now? Is that

521
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: why you've attained your success? Because that's the same shit

522
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: I felt where, you know, like I you'd have the

523
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: guy like when you said you're at oceans and people are, oh,

524
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: you're lucky to be here. I remember going on a

525
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: recruiting trip and they brought in all like the studs

526
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: of our high school, and they like pretty much went

527
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: to everyone else and they didn't go to you, and

528
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: the like that's what fucking fueled me, you know, or

529
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: or the motivation of you know, you're not supposed to

530
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: be here, or you're happy to be here, but you

531
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: made it. It's kind of like, you know when someone says, oh,

532
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: how tall you are? How tall are you? You know?

533
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: Five ten five nine five ten, it's pretty pretty cool, huh.

534
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: Get the battle against those six foot six dudes and

535
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: still dominated. You know, it's the same kind of shit.

536
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: It's crazy, but dude, you you managed to be that

537
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 2: and still have the attitude like you were a spark

538
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 2: on that team. You were really fun to watch man

539
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: for people. I was talking to my dad on the

540
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: way over here. I was like, yeah, I when I

541
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: go over and talk to the Chiels, and he was excited,

542
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: and I was like, I was like, man, this is

543
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: eighty eighty four and my my son fifteen. Like that's

544
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: a big range for a fan base. Man, Like you

545
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: have people who loved to watch you because you I

546
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: think I get loved playing and like you. Sometimes you

547
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: be miked up. I don't know why they miked you

548
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: up so much, but you were miked up a lot,

549
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: you know, and you could hear like the way he

550
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: talked to the to the other people, to the you know,

551
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: the other players on both teams, and it was like

552
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: a dude loves being out there, loves playing the game,

553
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: and it made it so much fun fun to watch

554
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: a time, like the Pats are always fun for me

555
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: to watch, But there were some years in there where

556
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: it was like it's a slot. Even when you're winning,

557
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: it's a slog. It felt like we're on a mart

558
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: Like if we don't win, then it's a disappointment. But

559
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: when people hate us, you know, it was always like, yeah,

560
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: we're gonna remind not like it was like there a

561
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: few tense years in there, and but you were fun

562
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 2: and you made it fun. So not only did you

563
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: persevere and be like have to prove yourself, but you

564
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: seem to like carry some joy for the game.

565
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. You know that that means a lot

566
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: because I did love the game. I still do love

567
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: the game. You know, it ultimately brought me everything that

568
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: I've had in my life. But I do have other interests.

569
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: Do you love acting?

570
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: I love acting. I don't always love the business of movies.

571
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: You know, no one loves the business of what they're

572
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: passionate but that's what makes it the work. You know,

573
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 1: if you didn't have like I hate you think I

574
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: hated fucking negotiating with Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft for

575
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: these dog shit fucking contracts, you know, and being owned

576
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: up for all the but you still love the game.

577
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: You weren't doing that negotiating.

578
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: When you get older, you get older, you start, I mean,

579
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: you learn the ways you.

580
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: Would get into it with them and the knocking the

581
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: door and be like, yay man, I need to know

582
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: zero on that.

583
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Well. Bill used to corner you so like if there

584
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 1: was some you know, if you're if you were talking,

585
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: if your agent and the GM Cassario or whoever's handling

586
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: would there's like a stalemate of where we were at

587
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: a Jels, just come over here for a second. You know,

588
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: we talked to you in the cafeteria, sit you down.

589
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: And he did that to me a few times in

590
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: my career when I was young. I'd be like, coach,

591
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'd play the dumb card. I don't know

592
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: what you're talking because he's a smart motherfucker. He trapped

593
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: you into something, you know what I mean. I'd like,

594
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: I let my agent do that. Coach you know, I'm

595
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: just worried about football. You know, by the end, I'm

596
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: going up to Cassario saying, hey, I need five hundred

597
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: grand more from these incentives because this motherfucker's getting pay that,

598
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: so you better put that in there. You know. It

599
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: was different, But yeah, I understand. You know, you have

600
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: a love, but it's all the outside ship that makes

601
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: things work. Yeah, it's not working. I played football for

602
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: free if it wasn't for all that bullshit. You miss it,

603
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: I do. I just I start to miss it more.

604
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: The better my body feels. Are you healing, I'm pretty much.

605
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean I'm as healed as i'll be. I have

606
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: a lot of deficiencies through you know, twelve surgeries and

607
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: all everything that I've had throughout my career, and you

608
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, you feel stuff here and there, but I'm

609
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: not in like crazy pain. But the year after I retired,

610
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: like the year I retired, I mean, I had a

611
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: tear in by the root of my meniscus and like

612
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: I was thirty four turning thirty five, and they asked me,

613
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, like do you want to get this thing done?

614
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: It's a twelve month microfracture surgery, and like thirty four,

615
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: I got three Super Bowls. You know, I was like,

616
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm gonna play the year and we'll just

617
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: rehabit and I'll see how I can do it, you

618
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's gonna be some pain. You

619
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: could just deal with it, go out and play that year.

620
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: And it was like such a grind to get to

621
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: the game, you know, Like, and I'm a practice player.

622
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: I gained confidence through the practice execution. Practice execution becomes

623
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: game reality. So like that's where the shit talking, that's

624
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: where your confidence comes because you've seen it in your

625
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: head already. You've done it. You've seen the bad looks

626
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: the good looks. And I couldn't practice hard anymore. I'd

627
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: get two reps of practice and then I'd go to

628
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: the water tanks and I'd condition in the water, and

629
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: it just became such a grind that I ripped up

630
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: my ribs and that first year out it was like

631
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: I hate football. You know. It just became because there's

632
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: a there's a standard that you you've earned through your

633
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: consistent play through the years, and when the time you

634
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: start seeing that you're not that guy on the film

635
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: and you're in pain, it's just it's it's a it's

636
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: a hard thing to do. It's a very humbling thing

637
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: to do to go through. And every guy goes through

638
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: it in our in our business, you know, we're we're

639
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: the wheels aren't going as fast as they used to go.

640
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: Father time catches up, and it's just one of those things.

641
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: It was tough the first year. Second year, I'm starting

642
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: to feel better. Things are healing up, you know. And

643
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: now I'm going into year three, year four, and now,

644
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm out playing soccer lily in the backyard,

645
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: kicking stuff, doing a little footdrills, like I think I

646
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: could do this right now, you know what I mean?

647
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: But you always miss it.

648
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: I'd imagine that even if you you ran your career

649
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: out and you were healthy, you ended, you know, you

650
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: went out just when you wanted to how you wanted to,

651
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: that you would still crave that, like the competition, you know,

652
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 2: just organized sports. I mean I played through high school

653
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: and I still when I turned like thirty, I was like, man,

654
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: I really miss organized sports. Just going out with dudes

655
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: playing competing. I miss it. You know, I don't know

656
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: what what do you do like for that?

657
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: Do you now? I compete with myself. I'm learning new stuff.

658
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: And you get a lot of that competition through your kids.

659
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: You see when they're learning new things. They're doing soccer,

660
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: they're doing tennis. You know, I get to see it

661
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: and watch them with their coach and you see their

662
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: progression on something they've been working on for a long time. Like,

663
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the most excitement I get now.

664
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: And it doesn't even have to be in sport. It

665
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: could be in reading, it could be mad like that

666
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: is the new competition. And then I've picked up boxing.

667
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: I started that a couple of years ago, and really

668
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: thinking when you're tired and and and learning something that

669
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: I've never I've never done in my life, you know,

670
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: see how that progression's gone. That that's where I get

671
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: some competition out. I started golfing a little bit, you know,

672
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: it's like everyone does that, right.

673
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: So you you're friends with Wohlburg a little bit.

674
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 1: How has he in the ring? I haven't fought him

675
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: yet yet. Yeah, I'll take him. I mean I might

676
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: have to take him down. I'm thirty eight. He probably like,

677
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, you guys all look young, all you

678
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Hollywood folks. Man. I read there you're you're forty eight.

679
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: I thought you were like thirty two or something.

680
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wolburg's fifty three. You could take him, bro, He's.

681
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: On a one hundred thousand supplements and he gets out.

682
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 5: Three in the morning, praying for an hour, fighting for

683
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 5: an hour.

684
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: Wahlberg would be a tough one. He's a good golfer,

685
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: is he He's a really good golfer. He's a good dude,

686
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: he is. He's He was actually one of the first

687
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: dudes out of the Boston like acting community or whatever.

688
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: He popped.

689
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: Huh, he popped.

690
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: He popped off early like that in high school.

691
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: But he also when I was a nobody in New England,

692
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 1: he invited me to his house once out and here

693
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: in LA because he heard I was out here. And

694
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: he was just a cool dude that like kind of

695
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he let me hang around and and

696
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: kind of gave me some words of advice before you started.

697
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: Before I was yeah, I was like a special teamer still,

698
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: oh nice, So he was. He was pretty cool. He

699
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, invite me to stuff and he just a

700
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: cool lass dude. Me fucking now, it's a crazy story

701
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: that So I roll up to I go and get

702
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: this acting coach out here, this acting coach Lee, and

703
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: I roll up there one day. I'm sitting there and

704
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: she's like going to her back a little like EIGHTYU

705
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting out there and she goes, oh, can

706
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: you wait up one second, I have one of my clients.

707
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm like sure, Yeah, this is the first time I

708
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: ever met with her. I'm like, I'm nervous as fuck.

709
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: She gave me some homework. I'm thinking about lines and stuff.

710
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: Now I got to put weight. Now, I'm thinking like,

711
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: maybe she's doing this on purpose, maybe she doesn't have

712
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: anyone there. Gave it me a little bit roll op

713
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: in there. It's fucking casey, Like what the fuck? And

714
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: so we kicked it off for a little while. We

715
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: talked for a little while, and then the next day

716
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: after our session, she gave me more homework and she

717
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: gave me a fucking scene from Manchester by the Sea. Yeah,

718
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: the one at the boat dock when you're with your

719
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: nephew and he's like busting your balls about keeping the

720
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: boat and I was, I was doing that, And the

721
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: next day I went, like the week after I walked in,

722
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: I was fucking nervous as fuck that. I thought she

723
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: was gonna make me run lines with you or something

724
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: like he's crazy, what is she thinking? And it's just

725
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: it was fun. That's when we really first got to

726
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: meet dude. My side of that story.

727
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: I was sitting there with her and I'm like, she's like, well,

728
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: I gotta wrap it up. I get someone coming in.

729
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: I was like, who are you coming in?

730
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: Oh?

731
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: I was grilling and she's like, oh, just someone a

732
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: new client. Didn't want to say, protecting your privacy. And

733
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not leaving me. Who's coming in?

734
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: And she told me and I was like, now I'm

735
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: really not leaving. I'm staying here till dude gets here.

736
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: And I waited and then you came in. I took

737
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: like half your time. I was like pappering you with questions.

738
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not leaving at my time with

739
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: my man here right now, I got a lot on

740
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: my mind. So we stayed there and then I went

741
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: back like whatever. It was a few weeks later and

742
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: I was like, I want you to schedule me before Jewels.

743
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: Whenever Jewels is coming in, I want to be there before.

744
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: So I got some more things I want to ask

745
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: him she was like, no, I can't do that, dude, professional.

746
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: She's she's the best. She's such a she. She's taught

747
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: me a lot. And I only worked with her a

748
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: little time because at that time that's when I landed

749
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: the job with Fox and so then or no with

750
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: Tea with Inside the NFL, and so I put that

751
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: on hold because I was starting to get nervous for

752
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: like talking in front of the camera and all that stuff.

753
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: So I didn't get to see her. I haven't seen

754
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: her as much as late, but you know, she's she's

755
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: a cool teacher that takes a lot of the time

756
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: to learn you and then learned your motivation, what motivates you,

757
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: and and and she was able to explain things like

758
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: I always remember, acting is not about right or wrong,

759
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: it's about belief or not poly or something. She would say, right,

760
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: do you do you believe her? You do not believe

761
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: you know. And she's just an interesting lady that I

762
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: enjoyed every bit with. And I got to get back

763
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: to her.

764
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, she's very smart. She's good with that. Like

765
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: I didn't go to I didn't go to theater school

766
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: or I didn't go to drama. You know, I never

767
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: did any of that. I never had an act to coach.

768
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 2: And then I and then I went to her one

769
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: time just because I had something to do that was

770
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: like too much lines. I'm getting old. I'm like, I

771
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: just got to sit with somebody and run him. And

772
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 2: I met her and she had great advice. She's really

773
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: really good and everyone, like I know a lot of

774
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: other people I've worked with her and there she makes

775
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 2: them better.

776
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's good.

777
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: You would be a good actor, dure. He's still interested

778
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: in doing that or you just want to do it

779
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: for like when you gotta do commercial.

780
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: No, I would be interested. I just have an insecurity

781
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: of being the person on set that doesn't know the line,

782
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: Like it's like not knowing how.

783
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 3: Any insecurities at all.

784
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like that's the only thing I get

785
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: nervous about is that kind of stuff. But I would.

786
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm definitely interested in getting it. He gronk, he's funny.

787
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: We did a We did a we did a parody

788
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: of fucking Goodwill hunting for the schedule or release party, Gronk,

789
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: wash your brother. I was Matt and Ernie Adams was

790
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: fucking h Williams. Huh. So it was it was a

791
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: fun thing. And Rob was like, I get so excited

792
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: when I have to do lines. I sit there and

793
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: I just like practice them for six or seven days

794
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: by myself. I love remembering, Like that's that's Rob, you know.

795
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the instigators. So movie shot in

796
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: Boston takes place in Boston, a lot of north shore

797
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: or south shore all around, because it was Quincy and stuff.

798
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: It's beach. Yeah. What's it like shooting a movie when

799
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: you go back home? Is it? Is it a hassle

800
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: because of people that you know? Or do you like

801
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: doing it? Because I remember when I go play games

802
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: in like the Bay Area or in California, I gotta

803
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: get forty tickets. I gotta deal with you know, yeah,

804
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: you're really you're here for work. You're here for a job. Now,

805
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: how do you handle that when you have to go

806
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: back and shoot something in you know, upper Northeast.

807
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: Well, in this case, you know, more people want to

808
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 2: go see Matt. So I'm like, you know, talk to Matt.

809
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll get you, gets you on set, you

810
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: know what I mean. They're like really, I'm like, yeah,

811
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: go ask him, man, look you up. But I think

812
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: that like the first time I went back to work

813
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: in Boston. You know, they love you, They're great, They're like,

814
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: they want you there, they want you shooting, and then

815
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: on day two they're like, get off my fucking street, bro,

816
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: the lights and the noise, and then you have to

817
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: endure the next fifty days of them like poking holes

818
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: and your tire and you know, they don't want the

819
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: trucks there, they don't want the shit, so they're not

820
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: they You know, a lot of movies go to Boston,

821
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: and Massachusetts has been really good for the industry, and

822
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: we've been good for the city, but like the people

823
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: there understandably get sick of having movies coming and going

824
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: constantly in their neighborhood. I love going there because I

825
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: would rather live in Boston than be living out here.

826
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 2: So I get to go spend a few months there

827
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: and it's not like going to Budapest or Pittsburgh, like

828
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: someplace that's different, you know, where you don't know anyone,

829
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: and you get to be home. Everything's familiar. So I

830
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: love it. And when I come up with projects, I'm

831
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: always like, we can do this in Boston. I think

832
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: you said yeah, So I love doing it. But on

833
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: the other hand, like a lot of people I knew.

834
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: I've been gone for over thirty years, man, so a

835
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: lot of people I know are gone. It's not like

836
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 2: I don't have to not forty people knocking on my door.

837
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's just a few. And but I love

838
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: I love doing it.

839
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: And do you have a house there?

840
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: No, you stay at a hotel, staying at my mom's

841
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: one time, yeah, and uh did or you just get

842
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: an apartment or whatever.

843
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

844
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: But it's nice that you get to go see games,

845
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: like all the teams you want to see, you're there,

846
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: you get to go. I used to work at Fenway,

847
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: so like going home, I always go back there. It's

848
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: like a core memory those years of every home game

849
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: working at Filway Park. It's like my like eighth grade

850
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 2: into high school. It's like, so that's the first stop.

851
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: And then then you make the rounds and see all

852
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: your favorite places.

853
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: And with food spots, any food spots, ship Man.

854
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: Food spots have changed, as you know, the city changed

855
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: so the last like especially the last ten years, it's

856
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: like everything's different. A lot of those restaurants gone, just

857
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: the old places you go. You know, Leo's Sandwich Shops

858
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: is gone, you know, and like, but I'll go, uh,

859
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: I hit my Indian spot, Maharajah. That's the best Indian

860
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: in the country.

861
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Let's go.

862
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: Baby.

863
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: Santuca has good rumin over there Newberry. I think that's

864
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: what it's like, fifteen years old on Newbury Street. Yeah,

865
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: off a Newberry one.

866
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: That's where all the fancy people hanging. That's for you

867
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: roll around.

868
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to Southe. I go to Reno's

869
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: in East Boston for some good lobster ravioli. You go there,

870
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: there's really good. Who least goes in East Boston. My

871
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: favorite Mexican that's been there for a while. Leone's over

872
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: in Summerville for some fucking sheet pizza. Oh yeah, I

873
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: used to like going there. Pinocchio's and Cambridge, right.

874
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where dude dreamed up Facebook, you know, Yeah,

875
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: that's right.

876
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: One of my favorite things about The Instigators is the

877
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 4: areas of Boston that we're shotting, because usually, like Boston movies,

878
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: it's like so North End or all these but like

879
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: you even Sparler but chasing like in.

880
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: His alley in Back Bay.

881
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and how you like utilize certain parts that are

882
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: just generally not seen in Boston movies before it was cool.

883
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: Oh nice, Yeah you had the police. Is that where

884
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: you were at? I live in the back Bay. I

885
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: lived over there for eight years. I lived in Foxboro.

886
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: My first six lived in Foxboro, Foxborough, Plainville, Rentham.

887
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: Those are the towns that we would play in high

888
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: school but otherwise never go to.

889
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

890
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: I just didn't know anyone out there for no reason.

891
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah sticks, I mean there's some good food. The Plainville

892
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: Deli was always good. It was a little Italian deli.

893
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: I'll still go back and check that.

894
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 2: Are you support when you joined the team? You supposed

895
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 2: those up like a rider passage. You gotta go live out.

896
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: At the no, But you're not going to live in

897
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: the city when you're trying to make a team. I

898
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: mean I had roommates until like my fourth fifth year.

899
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: Like I mean, no furniture is like mercenary life. Pizza

900
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: boxes as your fucking Shanevreen used to order Domino's. We

901
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: would just stacked the boxes, use it as like a

902
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: side table and shit, you know what I mean.

903
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: Like, dudes, think of anyone who's in the pros and

904
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: any sport as having made it the rich. They loaded,

905
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: especially now when everyone shows up they do they like

906
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: dressed to the nines, showing up at the park or whatever.

907
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 2: But like that's not the case.

908
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: No, you know, you know, I would say sixty percent

909
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: of the team is you know, making a league minimum,

910
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: which is great money. But you got to think about it.

911
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 1: At that time, it was like three eighty five, three ninety.

912
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: You know, you don't even know if you're gonna make

913
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: the team. You got to make the team to make

914
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: that three ninety, or if you're on practice squad, it's

915
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: a hundred racks. You know, you're getting one hundred grands,

916
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: so you know, there's a lot of moving parts. You know,

917
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: you could be on another team. You know, you can

918
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: get traded. It wasn't until I felt like I had

919
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: an established foundation of equity with you know, the team

920
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: in the area that that's when I went to Boston, right,

921
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, And it must have felt good. It felt

922
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: really good. And I enjoyed going home. I remember my

923
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: first four years like I was literally in the backyard

924
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: of the stadium, like you just it was a fucking grind,

925
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: you know. I enjoyed the twenty five thirty minute drive

926
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: in the morning, reverse commute so you didn't have bad traffic.

927
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: You know. I enjoyed that. It'd wake me up. It

928
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: helped me get ready for the day, start the day right,

929
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: and I could handle like my personal life on the

930
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: drive back. Yeah, you know, on the phone, because that's

931
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: the only time you catch me is if you know

932
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: on the phone, I'm in my car or on my

933
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: arm chilling.

934
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: You worked hard, man, You were focused.

935
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: Very focused. I mean I had to. It wasn't good

936
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: enough not to be.

937
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were good enough.

938
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: So guys I could just slap it out there.

939
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: That's not really true.

940
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: Well they don't stick around long, but there's guys that

941
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: can fuck around, have one, two, three good years. You

942
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: don't have a real yeah, and then things catch up,

943
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: injuries happen. You know. It's a lot of prevention type

944
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: stuff that you gotta you gotta take your body's your temple, bro. Yeah,

945
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: and that that thing, especially nowadays with all the technology,

946
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: the information.

947
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: I wrote a movie once about these two back to

948
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: the Yanks, these two Yankees in the seventies who I

949
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: don't know if you ever heard this story, true story.

950
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: They traded wives, yes.

951
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, wife swap.

952
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: Not only a wife swap a family house, category dogs.

953
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: Every they traded lives in the middle of the season.

954
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: They went out like it was like Swingers style, like seventies.

955
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 2: They were like, hey, let's like trade you know, one night,

956
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: like let's swap couples or and then it kind of stuck.

957
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: They stayed with it, and then they kind of one

958
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: couple really fell in love and the other couple was

959
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: sort of into it, but it didn't work as a relationship.

960
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: But then this is this was when journalists didn't talk

961
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: about the private lives and athletes. That was taboo. You

962
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: didn't do it, you know what I mean. And the

963
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: journalists traveled with the team, so they all knew them,

964
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: and they all knew they were around the party, and

965
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: they knew all the stories Mickey Mantle, wild stories, but

966
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: they never reported on it, and so what happened was

967
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: interesting story. They this was going on for a while.

968
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: They were like living in each other's houses, taking care

969
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: of the other person's kids, the whole thing. And the

970
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: Yankees weren't doing so well. The Mets that year were

971
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: playing great, and one of the it was like the

972
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: daily news, someone decided they pulled their person that usually

973
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: covered the Yankees from the locker room and they went

974
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: to travel with the Mets and someone else got cycled

975
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: in and it was a woman. And the Yankees said,

976
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: we're not going to have a woman covering the team

977
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: in the locker room. It was like just straight up sexism,

978
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 2: and they blocked her. And she heard about this story

979
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: because everybody knew about it, and she was like, okay, like,

980
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be allowed to cover the team.

981
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: I'm a woman, I'm gonna how about I just write

982
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: this story, wrote the story of this, of this what

983
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: was happening, and I'm simplifying it all and this then

984
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: the story broke, so now everyone is and now all

985
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: the other journalists feel like they have to cover this

986
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: story too because they got scooped, and they're like, this

987
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: is kind of a weird story. I guess we better

988
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: write about it, even though everyone knew, like you're not

989
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: supposed to talk about the private lives of athletes. And

990
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: then and then it became a national story. Johnny Carson's

991
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: telling jokes about it every night, you know what I mean, Like, yes,

992
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: the Yankees better cancel family Day that kind of stuff,

993
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And they're like and then

994
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: it sort of became like a lot of pressure on

995
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: these guys, and they one of the couples broke up,

996
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: and the other couple stayed together. They stayed married, had

997
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: their own kids, stayed married all the way until the end,

998
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: until that player passed away a few years ago. But

999
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: in the researching that story to write it into a

1000
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: movie that I learned I talked to all these journalists

1001
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: and who were at the time covering the Yanks, and

1002
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: I learned that, like what their lives were like, and

1003
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: even for the best players, it was not They weren't

1004
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: rolling high, you know, they were like trying to make

1005
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: ends meet. Even guys that weren't out there partying through stuff,

1006
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: they were still just trying to like pay their mortgage,

1007
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, even when they're performing really

1008
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: at the highest level. So it's only till just like

1009
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: the eighties, when athletes start catting. I don't know if

1010
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: it's the same for football, but definitely in baseball it wasn't.

1011
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: It was just still kind of recently that people started

1012
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: becoming you know, millionaires and stuff.

1013
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 5: What do you got, jack, Yeah, crazy? The daily News

1014
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 5: never misses a chance to throw a little like pot

1015
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 5: shot in the headline here. So from that story back

1016
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 5: in the seventies, two yank pitchers trade wives Peterson and

1017
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 5: kekch hurl changeups.

1018
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: They never miss a chance for a bad joke thinking

1019
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: about the wife swapping. Fucking Chappelle show.

1020
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: The Black Cup for the White gul Oh my god.

1021
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break. Let's go

1022
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: back in a time. So this is a segment where

1023
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: we go back around the time of the game when

1024
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: it was played, and we talked about a little bit

1025
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: of pop culture. This was July twenty fourth, two thousand

1026
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: and four. Number one movie I Robot. You ever see that? No,

1027
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: it's Will Smith right Apocalypse one? Oh? Is it?

1028
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: It's like a robot legaristic?

1029
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: Is that I am legend?

1030
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: Legends him is apocalyptic robot?

1031
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: Is Maybe this Bridget?

1032
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? This is Bridget?

1033
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 5: Oh this Bridget's bridge one in Robot.

1034
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Tom Brady, there we go.

1035
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: Number one song, Leave get out right? Huh?

1036
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 5: Too cool to come on the pod?

1037
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: Too cool to come on the fucking pod. Who wouldn't

1038
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: come on, Tom fucking Brady TV? Wouldn't show up? I

1039
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: mean not yet, man, not yet.

1040
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 5: We've been left at the Oh my god, it left

1041
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 5: at the.

1042
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: Altered it was worth six. I don't know.

1043
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: I guess he's so busy with everything, being in the

1044
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: world's number one Bachelor of the World. Great team dads.

1045
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: Fucking you know you're getting ready for TV.

1046
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 2: This that time for a roast yeast?

1047
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: I heard that paycheck. I I'd make time.

1048
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 3: For that too.

1049
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: Oh number one song Jojo Leave. You remember that song?

1050
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: Boston Girl, Foxborough.

1051
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 3: High Leave, Get up, right up.

1052
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 5: I was trying to make sure we get we cleared

1053
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 5: the rights.

1054
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: Motorola razor, release the phone. Do you have a razor? No?

1055
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: I had. I think I was like a junior in

1056
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: high school. Right here the razor. I had a black

1057
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: razor flip phone. I thought it was sick. Shake Shack

1058
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: opened its first location. Burger Fan, big deal fan.

1059
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: Are you vegan right, I've been a vegan for twenty

1060
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 2: eight years.

1061
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: How you liking it?

1062
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: I'm good at it?

1063
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: Yeah all right?

1064
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel better to put a little bit of

1065
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: meat on me. It's hard to put on muscle, but

1066
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: but you stay lean and stay healthy. The idea, Yeah,

1067
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: come on over, man, come on over.

1068
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: I when I would play I would do like vegan

1069
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: three days I do like three days where I wouldn't

1070
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: eat meat or i'd have Yeah, what was the idea there?

1071
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: When I was trying to lean up for like a

1072
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: photo shoot or something, wud be like men's health or something,

1073
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, you know, try to get try to

1074
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: get yoked. Oh she's twelves drops in December.

1075
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: Yep, I never saw it.

1076
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: You never saw I heard. So you don't like watching

1077
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: your movies.

1078
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 2: I don't love watching my movies, and those I didn't

1079
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: even really like. I shouldn't say that I didn't like

1080
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: those movies.

1081
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: I didn't like this.

1082
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 2: It's just not my kind of thing.

1083
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1084
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: Have you never watched good one thing?

1085
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: I saw a good one thing? Yeah, just because.

1086
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 5: Why do you?

1087
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: Why? What was that?

1088
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 2: I took some notes time, like watching film.

1089
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: You know, when you're the MVP.

1090
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: In the super Bowl, Dude, it's like I hate that

1091
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 2: over and over You're like, hey, I look at that catch.

1092
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm watching him, like, you know, a lot of other

1093
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: people have manipulated what you've done, and also you just

1094
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: have to live with what you've done. I don't know,

1095
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: it's like here, you're done your voice on the answering

1096
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: machine or something.

1097
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: I just don't like it. I don't like watching like

1098
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: rewatching our shit, even though I do it with the

1099
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: coach sometimes just to kind of see where I can get.

1100
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 2: Back to watch these.

1101
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't watch these, but like my TV stuff, I

1102
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: don't like watching these at all.

1103
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, can they give you media training for this?

1104
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: Teach you what you can say you can't say for this?

1105
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, this is just we own this. This is

1106
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 1: where we produce this, right right.

1107
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 3: And we also just cut the stuff.

1108
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: Yea. My Space was a social media platform. You remembers,

1109
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: did you have my Space? Didn't You didn't jump on

1110
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: my Space? So you're a little older.

1111
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: See what was happening in two thousand and four is

1112
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: I was having a kid, so I wasn't paying attention.

1113
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: To Are you stressed my desks? Yeah?

1114
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: I was like what is? I was a young dude.

1115
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: I had a pregnant girlfriend and I was gonna have

1116
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: a baby. It was the best year of my life.

1117
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: It turned changed everything for the better. But I wasn't

1118
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: getting the new Razor or watching Jojo or starting my

1119
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: MySpace you know, fan base.

1120
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: And you could have had so many cool pictures of

1121
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: your new baby on MySpace.

1122
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 5: Oh my god, moving around that top eight.

1123
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: I was a junior in high school growing up in

1124
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley, so like all those things were at the heat. Yeah,

1125
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: bet of everything Facebook, it was crazy. You mister popular

1126
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: in school. No, I wasn't mister popular.

1127
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: You're the QB. You're a good looking dude.

1128
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was like an undersized kid still. I

1129
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't hit puberty until I was like eighteen. I was

1130
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: like five to two until like my senior year.

1131
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: And you were still five.

1132
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: I was five. I was five to two. I was

1133
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: like five to five my junior year. I was like,

1134
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: I sprout up to like five eight my senior year.

1135
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: I started playing quarterback my sophomore year. I was late.

1136
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: You made up for the late in life.

1137
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: Let's go into the sports world of two thousand and four.

1138
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: The College Football National Championship LSU. Is that a save

1139
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: in LSU? Uh?

1140
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 5: Yes, I belie if that was the one saving one

1141
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 5: for the Tigers.

1142
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: College football guy. No, No, I'm Boston. See that. It

1143
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: goes to our town, that goes to our ship. We

1144
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: always talk about always. I grew up in the Bay

1145
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: which is very similar to Boston, where we're a pro

1146
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: sport area.

1147
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you have great pro sports teams, it

1148
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 2: takes a lot of the energy.

1149
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Super Bowl Champions, New England Patriots. So you guys

1150
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: got to be starting to feel some juices in Boston.

1151
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah at this point, you know, socks are

1152
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: knocking at the door. Patriots got a couple. Where does

1153
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: that bring us in the hierarchy of of Boston sport fan?

1154
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: For you, in the sports baseball, basketball, football.

1155
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: I grew up baseball, Baseball is number one. My dad

1156
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 2: was a huge football you know. It's where he probably

1157
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 2: made more money betting on football than he did working

1158
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: at the.

1159
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: Bar as far as hell.

1160
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was. It was always football for this guyst.

1161
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 3: I.

1162
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I skated hockey. I skated

1163
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: with Bobby or one time. So I so, but I

1164
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: I lost interest in it and too small, got beat

1165
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: too many times, I get and I didn't like it.

1166
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 2: Like baseball better. So that's that's our rank.

1167
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: And basketball was last. Was like, yeah, that was I

1168
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: gonna do? Soxtown guy. I mean, I.

1169
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 2: Loved Celtics, but I didn't I couldn't play.

1170
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.

1171
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 5: What did you play in high school?

1172
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: Baseball? Baseball? Okay, play some baseball.

1173
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 3: Let's go baby, Yeah, let's go baby.

1174
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: Stores baseball team in the state.

1175
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: The only way I made varsity.

1176
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: Would you play with position?

1177
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: I played shortstop?

1178
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: Oh, let's go.

1179
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: I still and I came When I missed it, I

1180
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: was saying, I missed playing so much. I came out

1181
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: here and I started a baseball team. We played the

1182
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: LA Park and Rec League Heart Pitch, and then we

1183
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: play yeah yeah, And then we played in the Wood

1184
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: Bat League Beverly Hills Wood bad League twenty fourteen City Champs.

1185
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: Let's go down.

1186
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: So I kept playing, and then until just a couple

1187
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: of years ago when I had sergeion elbow.

1188
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: You gotta hit the soft pitch, slow, slow pitch softball. Now, dogs,

1189
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: they're fun. I used to be a ringer with my dad.

1190
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: I used to go play on his team because I

1191
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: went to junior college for years, so I was still

1192
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: at home. Yeah, he'd hit me up on Wednesday nights, like, hey,

1193
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: let's go yeah, we need you.

1194
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: Up.

1195
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: Hit bombs now.

1196
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: Wait two thousand and four, though, can we just talk

1197
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: for a minute about the about Game three. I was

1198
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: at Game three in New York. Matt and I actually

1199
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: we were there. We're sitting on third baseline, only people

1200
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: in Yankee Stadium. This is two thousand and four. Uh,

1201
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: we are down that game. We lost that game, so

1202
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: we're down three, right, Am I getting it right?

1203
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1204
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: And a rod is there a third? And I don't

1205
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: think I've ever had this happen. I've been through a

1206
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: million baseball games and been loud, and I've never had

1207
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: the players acknowledge me. And dude, we're there the only

1208
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 2: people I think wearing Red Sox hat balls and move

1209
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: in Yankee Stadium and I'm being loud, and eventually Era

1210
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: looks over right at us, just stares it, gives a

1211
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: look of like like it's just a mosquito that's been

1212
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: in his ear all night, you know what I mean,

1213
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: Like hate, you know, just annoyance, hate and and uh

1214
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: and then he goes back to the game. It's one

1215
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: of my proudest moments as a fan. As a fan.

1216
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: And then when we lose that game, that's the last

1217
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: game of the curse. I like to think that we

1218
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: broke the curse. Then it's the first game in Boston, right,

1219
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: which is Game four, That game which I said, I

1220
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: guess Big Poppy on to talk about or whatever but

1221
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: I I have I know a lot of people talk

1222
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: about it, but when I was thinking about that game,

1223
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: I was like, the most interesting thing about that game

1224
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: is how and he wouldn't say this probably is that

1225
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: unremarkable it actually was. It was like, no, it was

1226
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: no historically good performance on the mound or at the plate.

1227
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: It was like their guys are slumping Avertech was kind

1228
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: of everyone's they'd kind of slumping. Who is it? Second

1229
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: he had a few like yeah.

1230
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: It.

1231
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't.

1232
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

1233
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: It was a couple of like infield errors. It was

1234
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: like not a great game that It was like, it

1235
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: wasn't a shutout, it wasn't a blow. It's just that

1236
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: they went back and forth like they had the lead,

1237
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: We had the lead.

1238
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: They had the lead with the extras too, I think

1239
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1240
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 2: And then and then in the ninth inning they bring

1241
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: in a bear and the only unusual thing that happens,

1242
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: other than it being like we're on the brink of

1243
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: falling apart of losing the season, is that he walks

1244
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: the lead off at and then it was like that

1245
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: never happened. And then things started to turn, and then

1246
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: it was ste and then we then we tied it

1247
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: up and then it went over. But it only went

1248
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: like a few innings.

1249
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 5: Mark Behorn, Mark Beorn.

1250
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: Bell Horn and Bariteck were both slumping, and then bell

1251
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: An a couple of errors. Good dude, good player, bad game, whatever,

1252
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: and then and so it was kind of like a

1253
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: nothing game. It's only in the context of the one

1254
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: hundred year picture of what was happening. Then it becomes

1255
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: a great game because you know, pig Poppy hits it

1256
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: out doing the game that was. But he's doing that

1257
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: that's even not even that uncommon, you know what I mean,

1258
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,479
Speaker 2: Like how many times did he had to walk off?

1259
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: So Ortiz gets to walk off as a big celebration

1260
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: and they stay alive. But it only becomes an important

1261
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: game because it was the first game that starts the

1262
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: next seven where they just fucking goo, they just run it.

1263
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: So that's why I love that game, just like every

1264
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: day baseball in a weird way, and it's just a

1265
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: big picture story of it that makes it awesome.

1266
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 5: In another one of those games, Yank Classic Yankees Red

1267
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 5: Sox takes about four hours.

1268
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 3: It's a war of attrition.

1269
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 5: No one leaves. Stadium is still packed, but you're right.

1270
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 5: Then there are those moments where it like switches and

1271
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 5: becomes his story.

1272
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 2: Who was it Derek Low? Where'd it say?

1273
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 5: Is it Derek Low? Would have been in Game four?

1274
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 5: The one we came back was that was Derek Low.

1275
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: Yep, Derek who was not like was not being given

1276
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: for some reason. I feel like he had something to prove.

1277
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well was it was he dropped or something?

1278
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: He was like pissing, but he was.

1279
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 5: I mean, he was absolutely insane that postseason run.

1280
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: Let me see what it was.

1281
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: But he only threw a few He gave up a

1282
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: few runs. He only threw like four or five innings.

1283
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have the stats, but it

1284
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: was all kind of like, man, like, where's this going?

1285
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: Did you go any more games? After you went to

1286
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,439
Speaker 3: the Game three? He didn't see the rest.

1287
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: I didn't see the rest. That was the only one

1288
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: I could get to. And and I had a brand

1289
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: new bait. My son was born May thirty first, two

1290
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: thousand and four, so I had a I remember, We're

1291
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: in this tiny apartment in New York when they won.

1292
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: I'm watching on TV. Kid is sleeping. My wife, doesn't

1293
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: my girlfriend care about baseball? She's it's one room bed,

1294
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: TV kitchen. I'm like silently like she's like, what is happening?

1295
01:00:58,840 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 3: Shut up?

1296
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: You know the sleeping. I was like losing my mind.

1297
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: Who's your first call? Your dad? I think you got it.

1298
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1299
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: Maybe it was my brother. I don't know where he was.

1300
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 2: It might have been a dude. I worked at Fenway

1301
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,479
Speaker 2: with this guy. We worked like every loom. It wasn't

1302
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: even a very good friend of mine at the time,

1303
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: but I he was the kid I watched a hundred

1304
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 2: million games with, you know, losing, always losing. Oakland A's

1305
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 2: coming in. Only home runs we ever caught when I

1306
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: was there was the other team. They'd come over the

1307
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 2: Monster to go like get the ball. It's never our club,

1308
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1309
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: Would you ever take? Would you do it?

1310
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 3: Fenway?

1311
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: Just so sausages and hot dogs?

1312
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: You have a good like sausage it get your sausage hit?

1313
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I was out there.

1314
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: I was so young.

1315
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: You know, when you were young.

1316
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: You don't know how young you.

1317
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: Look if you're in eighth grade. I also I didn't

1318
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: hit you.

1319
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: Eighth grade grade were down those stairs the worst.

1320
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm behind the Green Monster in a in a sausage

1321
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: stand outside on Land on the streets.

1322
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: Oh so you're one of the street sausages guys.

1323
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: And I'm there so f when I get out of school,

1324
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: I gotta go over to the park set up to

1325
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 2: think sausages are hundred days old, pulling the rats off

1326
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: and you're putting the sausages on the grill, and then

1327
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: you work the inn. People coming in drunk, a million

1328
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: drunks coming to give you a sausage, kid.

1329
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1330
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: And then and then everyone's in the park. We'd sneak in,

1331
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: we'd walk, we'd give food to the guy the turnstile.

1332
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: We'd watch the games from like the fourth to the seventh,

1333
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: and then we'd come out. And then people were really

1334
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: drunk coming out and you're serving them sausages on the

1335
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: way home. And then the guy who owned my stand

1336
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 2: would just go into the Cask and Flagon, which is

1337
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: a big bar or the corner, big famous bar. Again,

1338
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm in eighth grade. I look like I'm seven years old,

1339
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: and he's like, come in, rock. You didn't want to

1340
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: get me a ride home until you'd had a few.

1341
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: So I go in and I wait in the bar.

1342
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 2: No one gives a shit that I'm sitting there at

1343
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 2: the bar. The guy has a few more more drinks,

1344
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: then gives me a ride home. I get home at

1345
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: eleven thirty at night. My mom's like, do you homework?

1346
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: Go to bed? That was my day. You know, Jesus,

1347
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: have you been back to Fenway since you've become somebody?

1348
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: Did you sign the wall? Did you go in the

1349
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: monster and sign the wall? Yeah, that's a cool thing,

1350
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: sign the wall. Yeah. They have like the coolest names.

1351
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: Everyone's in there, like if you.

1352
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, he used to go take peas between innings or

1353
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 5: during the innings.

1354
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to take peas. Probably going together.

1355
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 4: I was talking to the guy who's in there doing

1356
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 4: the scoreboards like this exactly who you think he was.

1357
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 3: He was in contract negotiation with Fenway. He was like,

1358
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 3: if it doesn't go my way, I'll be on the show.

1359
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 3: I'll blow him up.

1360
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you everything.

1361
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: So I must have went as well. Oh my gosh,

1362
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: beautiful park.

1363
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: There's all as little there's like a scorekeeper, there's all

1364
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 2: these little I've gotten to see. The like underbelly of

1365
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: the park is so sick.

1366
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: Let's let's jump into the Yankees.

1367
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: Wait, let's let's we gotta do Boston real Quick.

1368
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: Hit, the Boston Run, the real quick run through the Sox.

1369
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 5: Cat ninety eight and sixty four came in second in

1370
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 5: the ALS. In the Al East that year, they were

1371
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 5: the wild card team. Kerry coming off, we gotta set

1372
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 5: the stage here a little bit, coming off a Game

1373
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 5: seven loss of the year before in the ALCS. We

1374
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 5: remember that the uh, the freaking Aaron Boone game. That

1375
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 5: was not fun.

1376
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 3: So Grady Little gets asked after that season.

1377
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 5: This is the first year with Tito's manager Terry francona

1378
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 5: pick up shilling Poke Reese, Keith Folk in the offseason.

1379
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 5: Pretty big acquisitions down the stretch. Third year the theo

1380
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 5: epsin era boy Genius. Second year with the monster seats.

1381
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 5: We're talking monster Oh.

1382
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: I remember when they put those in there. Watching the

1383
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: Sports Center, I was California KI. We didn't get any

1384
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: of the Red Sox Yankees. Shit, yeah, we were full SF. Yeah, Dodgers.

1385
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: That was like our the Dodgers still do. Yeah.

1386
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: There's always like these crazy fights.

1387
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: There's Giants and Dodgers.

1388
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, there's a shanking every year.

1389
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 5: Every year rival, And then we can't talk about four

1390
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 5: without talking about Nomar getting traded in August, crazy man.

1391
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: Which could have been because of this game.

1392
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 5: It could have been. It could have been because.

1393
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: This I mean, we thought you picked this game because

1394
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: the fight with their attack and a rod bench is clear.

1395
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah right, one guy didn't go one guy didn't clear

1396
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: the bench no more.

1397
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: He was an interesting dude. I mean, how would he

1398
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: have done in the era of the faster game. Would

1399
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: they have policed his like twenty minute fucking routine then

1400
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: before he comes to the plate, because then the picture

1401
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 2: is gonna run out of side, like how does the

1402
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: clock work?

1403
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: No more?

1404
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 3: In the pitch clock era would be a menace.

1405
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: He get a pitch clock tou like it's an exemption

1406
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: because a fucking OCD. Man. If you if they ain't

1407
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna let me do my thing.

1408
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 5: Walk up to the plate and hand on the doctor's note.

1409
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah uh.

1410
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 5: And of course this is the year of the idiots,

1411
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 5: the scruffy guys, the beards, the long hair. Johnny damon

1412
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 5: those guys really rallying the troops, baby tough team not

1413
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 5: to root for?

1414
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: What about these New York Yankees?

1415
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 5: The Evil Empire baby, we're going full Homer. This episode

1416
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 5: one one sixty one won the Al East again. Uh,

1417
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 5: seventh straight year winning that thing. Uh coming off a

1418
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 5: World Series loss this season prior lost to six and

1419
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 5: six to the Marlins. Dontrell Willis teams Jack McKee and

1420
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 5: those are some good Marlins teams. And this was the

1421
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 5: first a Rod year we mentioned earlier. The Red Sox

1422
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 5: lost out on the A Rod sweepstakes after his leaving

1423
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 5: the Rangers and he lands in New York. Uh, this

1424
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 5: is a big star power Yankees team. I mean you

1425
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 5: got the Giambis, the Jeters, the Flash, Gordon's of Kenny

1426
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 5: Lofton's Matsui. I mean this was Fernie Williams, Gary Sheffield.

1427
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: This was a squad.

1428
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 3: This is a squad. This was a squad.

1429
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: Chef Mario Come, I can't forget the Goat.

1430
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 5: I know, mister blown crazy.

1431
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: Dat's duk hit.

1432
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 5: He was pitching a game four, I believe, so yes,

1433
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 5: let me double check that one.

1434
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 3: See Man Casey, great memory.

1435
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: Even though I was on the Bay, I was in

1436
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: the I was on the West coast for this and

1437
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: this is high school heat of my the area time,

1438
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: no matter where you were in the country. You hated

1439
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: the Yankees. I hated the Yankees. I didn't know anything

1440
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: about the Yankees other than Babe Ruth and fucking Willie

1441
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: Jackson or whatever and all those guys. But I hated

1442
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: the Yankees just because they Everyone talked so highly of them,

1443
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: always on Sports Center, because that's how we digested our

1444
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: sports back then. You know, you didn't watch the game

1445
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: because we didn't have tickets, We didn't have fucking satellite TV.

1446
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, you see them sports Center. I was like,

1447
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: they got all the pub I fucking hated the Yankees.

1448
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: Because you're a good man. That's why, good dude, you

1449
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: have a good heart.

1450
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: You know, you know the.

1451
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: Difference between an evil baseball team and everyone else and

1452
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: a great They just have too much money, you want

1453
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: it's not the spirit of baseball to just buy players,

1454
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: you know, by to buy the best all the time.

1455
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: But then the Red Sox do that eventually.

1456
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: No, I don't know what you're talking about, b No,

1457
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 2: he didn't. We embraced the moneyball. We started getting guys

1458
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: that were like not not that you know what I mean,

1459
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: not these big stars started putting it together THEO. But

1460
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: you had I guess Boston and New York, Boston and

1461
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Like, we didn't know anything about sermons that

1462
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: was going on out there, really, but that was a

1463
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,520
Speaker 2: It's also a similarly great town for sports.

1464
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: And growing up. It was awesome when we had the

1465
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Big

1466
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: Football Area Giants. I mean we loved, we all loved

1467
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds, Barry Bonds, Jeff Kent, Benito Santiago throwing from

1468
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: the knees, John Beck or who was remember John Beck

1469
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: with the fucking Jerry curl mullet. He'd come out. He

1470
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: was our closer the Giants. We got close a few

1471
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: times as a fucking rally monkey from La got us

1472
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,839
Speaker 1: with that stupid remember that, the rally monkey. What the

1473
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Angels they had the rally monkey. We were

1474
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: up like three to one in the series and they

1475
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: bust out this fucking rally monkey thing.

1476
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:17,959
Speaker 2: Is that a mascot?

1477
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck it is?

1478
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 3: Like monkey?

1479
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: It was like a monkey that they brought in this

1480
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: one point of the game, and they kept it throughout

1481
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: throughout the whole series and came back and won. It

1482
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: came back and won it.

1483
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,440
Speaker 2: I learned a lot about you know, Earl.

1484
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 1: Smith is Earl Smith.

1485
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 2: He worked for the Golden State Warriors and also for

1486
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: the Niners, as they're like you know, pastor, yes, it's

1487
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 2: there like team team, you know, you pray with them

1488
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 2: and stuff. And when I was started, I had this

1489
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 2: baseball team I played on, and we started to go

1490
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: up and play at San Quentin against the prisoners, just

1491
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: because they had a baseball team. And so I learned

1492
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: about this guy who had started their baseball program, and he.

1493
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: Was the uh.

1494
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: He worked at the prison mostly there trying to get

1495
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: guys to come to church and stuff. But then he

1496
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: started a baseball program and he realized that like he

1497
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: couldn't get the prisoners to come to church and pray,

1498
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: but he could get them.

1499
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: He could.

1500
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: It was a time in Sint Quentin, like all these

1501
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 2: gang wars going on and stuff, and he he was like,

1502
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 2: I could get I could get them to play basketball

1503
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: and baseball together, from different gangs, different races. I couldn't

1504
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 2: ever get them to come to church. So he started

1505
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: this program and then it kind of blew up and

1506
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: then we heard about it, and so I took a

1507
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: baseball team up there, and we started playing them. Every

1508
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 2: year we'd go up and play against them, and so

1509
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 2: I got to know Earl, amazing dude, incredible life story,

1510
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: had been shot six times in the head and neck, survived,

1511
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: he'd gone on to like seminary school, and you know,

1512
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: he started out as like a gang banger and then

1513
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: he ended up doing this and now he and so

1514
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 2: one time he invited us up to watch the last

1515
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: game between between the Raiders and the and the Niners.

1516
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: I guess fights on those ones a lot of game.

1517
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on? So we're down on

1518
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 2: the sideline with him and my kids, which was like

1519
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: a really special moment.

1520
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: Because we're up close, you know, stadium.

1521
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 2: We were in the stadium that I guess was since.

1522
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: Closed in Okay, candles in Oakland.

1523
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 2: Coliseum, which is now done, right is she gone?

1524
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1525
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: So we were there, and so it's a really big

1526
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: deal because there was the rivalry and it was the

1527
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: last time they were going to play against each other

1528
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 2: because then they left. So there was like sixteen brawls,

1529
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: I mean, and the game's just going on. I'm looking

1530
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: at like there's thirty people fist fighting up there in

1531
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: the stands and no one's paying any attention.

1532
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: No, yeah, that sounds about right. It's crazy, Yeah, La Dodgers.

1533
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: When the Dodgers played Giants, that's usually four or five

1534
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,839
Speaker 1: stab beings. You know. When the Raiders play the Niners

1535
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: over Runners, usually eight fights. I mean, it's fucking nuts.

1536
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: My mom being a ballsy lady that she is. When

1537
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: as we went and played in the Colisseum, like my

1538
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: second year, my mom wore my fucking jersey in there,

1539
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: and like, if you're at Oakland Coliseum Raiders game, either

1540
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: a Hell's Angel, a blood Crip, an Ortannal Sereniel, or

1541
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: like some fucking weird dude that's a lawyer that dresses

1542
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: up in spikes and shit. So everyone is legitimately just

1543
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: fucking crazy and they haze everyone who comes into the stadium.

1544
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: My mom rolls up in my jersey. It's like, shut up,

1545
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: my son's from the Bay Area, and you ain't gonna

1546
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: say shit to me. Like I'm like, oh my god,

1547
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: let's go in. My mom is fucking crazy.

1548
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 3: How many people that she stabbing?

1549
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: No, No, he's got it.

1550
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't mess with hands.

1551
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: Bro, got that dog in her? Yes, right, alright, got

1552
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: that dog in her right. Let's game game lead up, Jackie.

1553
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 5: All right, let's set the stage for this bad boy

1554
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 5: middle of the season, right after the All Star break.

1555
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 5: This Socks come in fifty two and forty four. The

1556
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 5: Yanks come in sixty one and thirty four. We're nine

1557
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 5: and a half back in the Al East, and the

1558
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 5: Socks we're slumping a little bit lost three to the

1559
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 5: last four. The Yankees, on the other hand, one four

1560
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 5: in a row. It's a Saturday afternoon game, nice and quiet,

1561
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 5: just to you know. You're at the home, napping on

1562
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 5: the couch, watching a little little game of the week

1563
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:01,839
Speaker 5: on Fox.

1564
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 3: And uh, this is a brawl game, though.

1565
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 5: All hell breaks loose home before the storm, Calm before

1566
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 5: the storm. And we gotta preface this with the fight

1567
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 5: the year before in the game three of the two

1568
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 5: thousand and six two thousand and three ALCS Pedro versus

1569
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 5: Don Zimmer. So there's already been better.

1570
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 2: Say this about that Pedro Pedro. That wasn't fair. People

1571
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: talked about it. It was not because Dunzi were charged.

1572
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 2: He was standing there just defending himself and he just

1573
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: used the man's weight again, you know what I mean.

1574
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: And he ended up falling down because he's oh god,

1575
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: and he was worked up, and and it wasn't It

1576
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: didn't make me happy to see it now, but I didn't.

1577
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: But it wasn't fair to say that Pedro threw this

1578
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 2: man to the ground.

1579
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 5: Absolutely not.

1580
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: Hey man, no matter what age you are, you come

1581
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 1: charging to get your ass ready. Yea, that old ass?

1582
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, what was he so angry?

1583
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 5: I don't remember exactly what started that fight, whereas this

1584
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 5: one was like so clearly the plunking of a rod and.

1585
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: He mushed him. He didn't even he could have punched

1586
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: this old guy.

1587
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, he laid him down easy, baby. I Yeah, that

1588
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 5: Pedro gets a bad rap for that one. I'm with you,

1589
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 5: But that's definitely a memorable moment. That uh, that was

1590
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 5: still bruined from earlier in the year. And like this

1591
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 5: was really a heat of Yankees Red Sox hatred and rivalry.

1592
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 3: I've got a question for you, So, when was the

1593
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 3: darkest moment of.

1594
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 4: Being a Boston fan? Is it before the two thousand Patriots?

1595
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 4: Is it three with the Red Sox before they break through?

1596
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 4: Like when's really the darkest before the dawn?

1597
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: It's definitely before the Pats start winning.

1598
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: That that was when light light broke through the clouds

1599
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 2: there and then and then the socks came up. But

1600
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 2: so so maybe it's just the nineties is everyone. I

1601
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: can't remember what's having with the Bruins, but I think

1602
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 2: everybody was just losing and there's a few years there

1603
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: where to make matters worse. We had like hope, there's

1604
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 2: hope there was socks looked like they might. I can't

1605
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: remember when Morgan magic was. That was like in late nineties.

1606
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 2: Remember we won thirty games, They replaced the we got

1607
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 2: a new manager, and we won the first like thirty

1608
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: games in a row. It was like it was like

1609
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 2: a miracle. Everyone thought, this is it. We're gonna we're

1610
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 2: making a run for it now. And then we just

1611
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: started losing again, and I think people thought it's never

1612
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: gonna happen. Recurse that that was maybe the darkest moment

1613
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: and the Pats what was going on. And then in

1614
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,440
Speaker 2: the late nineties in the Super.

1615
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: Bowl with Bledsoe in ninety five four got smoked, Yeah,

1616
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: and then they went against eighty five Bears. They were

1617
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: leading at that game three zero, but then got smoked.

1618
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: In eighty five eighty five, just ten years old. That

1619
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: I'm not I wasn't paying attention.

1620
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, mid to late nineties.

1621
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 2: We have to make jumps, like by the decade to

1622
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 2: find little good moments.

1623
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: Of it was rough. It's pretty much how New York

1624
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: is right now. Yeah, it's been a decade since they've

1625
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: had a championship in any sport of the Big four.

1626
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: That it could be decade plus, could be decade plus,

1627
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: which I think is honestly bad for sport. They need

1628
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: like it's kind of embarrassing, Like, we gotta they gotta

1629
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: start getting this thing up a little more.

1630
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:14,879
Speaker 2: They have all the money. What's the problem.

1631
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 1: It's weird distractions.

1632
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 5: I'm with you, though, it is good for sports when

1633
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,839
Speaker 5: a New York team is like in the mix a little.

1634
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: Bit because everyone likes rooting for a not routing. But yeah,

1635
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: I have to have a bad guy. What do they

1636
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: call it the protagonist in the movie antagonist? You know

1637
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: you need that. So year before and three they lose

1638
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: in the ALCS to these guys, these Yankees that had

1639
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: to be must watch TV anytime they played the next year?

1640
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: Then was it for like you? Is it you circle

1641
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: the calendar whenever you're playing the Yankees or was it

1642
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: like a special Was there something special when like you

1643
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: watch that or you see it with a friend, a buddy,

1644
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: a certain you know, superstition that you'd have have. Is

1645
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 1: any of that when you're watching with the Yankees? Or

1646
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,480
Speaker 1: it's just a little little more intention.

1647
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: He's just a bigger charge. Yeah, you just want to

1648
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: see that game. Yeah, it matters more, it's more, it's

1649
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 2: more important then. Uh, and you're tracking usually you know

1650
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 2: the Yankees, you knew you were hearing a lot about them.

1651
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 2: As you say, you're watching Sports Center, you're hearing a

1652
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: lot about them. So you know that who that team is,

1653
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: you know the players. It's fun to watch.

1654
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: This game was going back and forth, and it wasn't

1655
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: it really. It was kind of a shitty game until

1656
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: the third inning where the fight was.

1657
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 5: There's a tracked me to a game. Like Derek Jeter

1658
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 5: said after the game, whoever was at bat last was

1659
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 5: winning this thing.

1660
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 3: Allah.

1661
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 5: You know some of these Chiefs Bills shoot out we

1662
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 5: see in modern football. It was it's weird to think

1663
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 5: that in baseball, But like this game really was that

1664
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 5: way a little slow starting the Yankees get up three nothing,

1665
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 5: then we get the fireworks. In the third, a rod

1666
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 5: gets plunked with it's like a slow curveball right in

1667
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 5: the padded elbow pad and he comes out. He's jerping

1668
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 5: it vera tag, chirping it very tag. He gives them

1669
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 5: three f us and then the fourth the f you motherfucker.

1670
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 5: That's when he gets the mint in the face from Veritex,

1671
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 5: from Veritechthe's a big dude, big big guy.

1672
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: I like underrated rivalries are between catchers and it's not

1673
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 2: a catcher, but there's something when the catchers worked up

1674
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 2: because he's big. They're big, they're armored, they look like warriors,

1675
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 2: like the Thurman Munson was the he was the guy

1676
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: Yankees way back then, the same way. You know, tragic

1677
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 2: and his story, but like that. Those are great fights.

1678
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 5: Yes hockey, yes, and smartly Veritech. He didn't take off

1679
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 5: the mask, he doesn't shed anything. He just goes mitt

1680
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 5: right to the face baby, and then he goes for

1681
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 5: the lift up.

1682
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1683
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: I saw that he was going for the leg like

1684
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: he was gonna dip them.

1685
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 3: It's weird. Yeah, he went I think that.

1686
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: You know the fights nowadays, you see guys giving one

1687
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: two s.

1688
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 2: Which that sounds fun. Yeah, oh it's too far. I

1689
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 2: think it's a little.

1690
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: Much and you could break a hand. You're on the

1691
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: d o even though there's no incentive to play in

1692
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: baseball because contracts are guaranteed.

1693
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: But but you don't actually don't want to break the

1694
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 2: dude's shaw or break their nose. That's like you want

1695
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 2: to see a wrestling match. You want to see like

1696
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: an old school bench clearing. Like guys, there used to

1697
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 2: be brawls and baseball and people wouldn't really get that hurt.

1698
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 3: You know, we see the the veriteke a ride is

1699
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 3: what it starts with.

1700
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 5: Then it kind of splinters off and you get a

1701
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 5: you get a Tanyan Stirts.

1702
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 3: Got tossed, Kenny Lofts in the mix, get you.

1703
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 5: Get tossed, and then you get you get big poppy Trot,

1704
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 5: Nixon and Gabe doing a three on one on Stirts.

1705
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 5: It was starting that day. He was just starting Pitcher

1706
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 5: getting in there, throwing punches, doing cheap shots on Gabe Kapler.

1707
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 5: So that really that's one of those moments you know,

1708
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,440
Speaker 5: this team is getting galvinized when when you got three dudes.

1709
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 3: Going at one, So these dudes are getting.

1710
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 2: These dudes are at the top of their game and

1711
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: they're they're on a winning team. Yes, they don't want

1712
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: to break their hands, you know, so you know they're

1713
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 2: really worked up if they're doing something because they're pro athletes,

1714
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: hurt out there, they want to play, Paul.

1715
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can't three on one to

1716
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: pick picture. Though.

1717
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 3: I do like this.

1718
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of like if a quarterback throws in her eception,

1719
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: you see a fucking defensive lineman try to go back

1720
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: and block the quarterback as tacky. You can't do that.

1721
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: That's bullshit.

1722
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 2: It's funny some of these guys you hate them for

1723
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,759
Speaker 2: so long because they're on the other team.

1724
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: They're probably nice guys. I don't know.

1725
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: Pasada, he's probably a lovely dude, But when I see

1726
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 2: his face, I just think, like, hey, man, I hate you,

1727
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 2: but it's not fair, you know what I mean. He's

1728
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 2: a total stranger.

1729
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: You know that probably everyone, like a lot of people

1730
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: think like that way of Tom. Oh for sure, you

1731
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And and it's crazy because whenever

1732
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 1: someone who hates him meets him, they end up like, yeah,

1733
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: you can't hate the guy. He's really just a dude.

1734
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: Did people hate you?

1735
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

1736
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: They hated us. Bro, did they hate you? Yeah, they

1737
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: did eas easily.

1738
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're not easily hat Well. I would go

1739
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: like people people, even when they're on the other team.

1740
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 2: You always like the guys. Haven't they respected me? They

1741
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: respected me, but I would like I loved taking on

1742
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 2: that villain role of when like we would go And

1743
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 2: one of my things was when when the team would

1744
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: go out, we were introduced. I'd let Tom go for

1745
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 2: the first fifteen yards because he leads us out, and

1746
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 2: then I would I would start a sprint and I

1747
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: would sprint all the way to the other end and

1748
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: i'd fucking like give a fist pump jump to.

1749
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: Like the other crowd. They'd be booming and stuff, and

1750
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: I had like fed off that. I loved that. I

1751
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: want to you know what I mean.

1752
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 2: It was like but the players on the field.

1753
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: Nah, they all respected and no one. By the time

1754
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: I got older, the league has kind of changed, Like

1755
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: you didn't want to talk shit with me because then

1756
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: it would piss me off. And then I was gonna

1757
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: fuck you up every play. And it didn't matter if

1758
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: it was a run play or a pass play. Something's

1759
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Don't don't don't bark up this tree, you

1760
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was like that, so and

1761
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: they knew that that'd probably be in the scouting report,

1762
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 1: like don't piss him off because you know I don't.

1763
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: He uses it. He uses it.

1764
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you weren't talking that much to people.

1765
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: If they never crossed lines, and it'd be like stupid ship,

1766
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: like did you Like I remember this one dB from Pittsburgh.

1767
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: He had this fucking Jerry Curle thing going on, and

1768
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, you ain't good look, you ain't

1769
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: good looking enough to have that hair. You gotta cut

1770
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: that ship like immediately, like after roasting him on something

1771
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: like I would say ship like that, like, bro, you

1772
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: have no swag. Or guy would come come up to me.

1773
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: One time, this guy comes up to me from it

1774
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: was some I think it was like Jacksonville or something,

1775
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: and we we've already had like two super Bowls at

1776
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 1: the time. I go, bro, I've forgotten more football important

1777
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 1: football games that you played in dude, Like can you

1778
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: just get the funk out of my face? Like that

1779
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: kind of stuff like check the resume, get out of here.

1780
01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 2: And people didn't Simes take it personally like we were

1781
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: in a fight on the field.

1782
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: Me and Benny sat almost got in a fight. He

1783
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: was a safety for the Dolphins. I used to fight

1784
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 1: and practice a little bit with your own squad. Yeah,

1785
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 1: is that about it? Because practice was competitive. I remember

1786
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 1: when we first signed Gilmore Gilmore, he came over from

1787
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, and I was like it was kind of

1788
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: like a welcome, welcome to the team moment, like we

1789
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: practice hard here, so kind of pissed off that you're

1790
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: making fourteen when I route you up every single time

1791
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: we've gone at each other, and like it just gets

1792
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 1: Practices are like mini games in the NFL because we

1793
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: don't have one hundred and twenty eight one hundred and

1794
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: sixty two games, so those those practices become really competitive,

1795
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: and especially in New England, like they put such an

1796
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: emphasis on execution and competition because when you do it

1797
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: hard in practice the game, you feel that situation. It's

1798
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: like muscle memory, it's like deja vu.

1799
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: But the practices I've seen you guys aren't even fully padded.

1800
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 1: There was padded practices and then there's shell days. So

1801
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: you'd like when I was first in the league, you

1802
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: could have as many padded practices as you want, which

1803
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: we'd have like two a week. Usually usually Friday would

1804
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: be a fast Friday where you're in shells because you

1805
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: just want to have a nice fast a no balls

1806
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: in the ground. And then as I got older and

1807
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: through a second bargain agreement, we were only allowed fifteen

1808
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: padded practices a year, So.

1809
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 2: That was to just protect guys.

1810
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's also why a lot of the offensive line

1811
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: defensive line plays, like offensive line play for sure is

1812
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 1: gone to ship because of that, because they need to

1813
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: feel the pads so they can have that rev. It's

1814
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: like dancing together, you know what I mean.

1815
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 2: But having the pads means more contact, means more brain injuries,

1816
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: that kind of thing.

1817
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they just implicated these like new condom things

1818
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: that they put on your helmet for practice that are

1819
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: supposed to distribute the energy. There's a bunch of stuff.

1820
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: Technology is getting like really good right now.

1821
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 2: I think these guys are getting so big and fast

1822
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 2: that sounds gonna get very badly hurt definitely.

1823
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: And there I mean a lot of these rule changes

1824
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: we all bitch and complain about, Like they're doing the

1825
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: hip hip drop tackle where guy's from behind can't just

1826
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: drop their weight on the back of the guy's leg anymore.

1827
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: How does that work? So if a guy's getting tackle

1828
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: or running and a guy comes from behind and he

1829
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: grabs you, yeah, he can't just drop his weight on

1830
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 1: the back of your legs anymore. That's a fifteen yard fine.

1831
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 1: Or like if you swing a guy, or like the

1832
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,799
Speaker 1: horse collar you can't grab a guy from the behind

1833
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: or a face mask.

1834
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 2: But the horse caller has been their place for a long.

1835
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: Time, probably about fifteen years now, you know. But the

1836
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: hip drops new this year. That's gonna be a huge one.

1837
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 1: And you try to get the behavior out through fine

1838
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,799
Speaker 1: and then goes through the farming systems of the younger kids.

1839
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:53,959
Speaker 1: And the only.

1840
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,879
Speaker 2: Ones I see that I feel like aren't being managed

1841
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 2: right is the is the rough past.

1842
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: There's a huge emphasis on that, which they put a

1843
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: rule in now that it is reviewable.

1844
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because sometimes the guy's coming in he can't change.

1845
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: His no, no, no, But the penalty is reviewable now,

1846
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: so they can go and take a look at it

1847
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: after the play the flag is done. That was added

1848
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: this year because there are too many calls, right, there's

1849
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: a lot of calls. There's a lot of calls, but

1850
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 1: we don't want to see our stars get hurt, right,

1851
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 1: you know? So, Jack, should we.

1852
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 3: Wrap this game? Wrap it up?

1853
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 5: The fight winds down, we get four guys tossed, Kenny Lofton,

1854
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 5: Gabe Kapler, hold on here, we got very tech, very

1855
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 5: techy rod Kenny Lofton, Tito gets tossed in the fifth

1856
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 5: for arguing a call. Then in the.

1857
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 3: Sixth, all hell breaks loose, the floodgates open.

1858
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 5: We get twenty two total batters, ten total runs, ten

1859
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 5: total hits, seven pitchers used, eighty nine total pitches. The

1860
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 5: inning lasts over an hour hour. No hitch clock era here, Baby,

1861
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 5: So then we get it down. We're down nine to four.

1862
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 5: Bottom of the six we cut it. We're down nine

1863
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 5: to eight. Flash forward to the ninth inning. We are

1864
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 5: down ten to eight going into the bottom of the ninth.

1865
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 5: We need something here. That's when we get Billy Miller

1866
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 5: three to one count one man on blast the walk

1867
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 5: off to run home or into the bullpen in right field.

1868
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 5: Liner wins the game, Socks win eleven to ten, and

1869
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 5: we're rolling. Baby galvanize the team. We're moving on.

1870
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Boston believes. What's the aftermath?

1871
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 4: Josh or jossh Red Sox win the World Series.

1872
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 5: Red Sox win the World Series. Some suspension, some fines,

1873
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 5: break the curse, go twenty one and seven in August

1874
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 5: and we're rolling. No markets traded to the Cubbies. We

1875
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 5: talked about that a week after.

1876
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: We win it again, win it again, baby, and then

1877
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:57,839
Speaker 2: five years later we win.

1878
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 5: It again again.

1879
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: So you love the baseball, Yeah, I love it.

1880
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: I love the football. I love I love watching football.

1881
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 2: And now, I mean there's so many baseball games. I

1882
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 2: feel like they've extended the season how many times in

1883
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 2: the last I don't know, it's too many. It's a

1884
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 2: bit too many games.

1885
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 3: It's playing game, and the more and the.

1886
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: More so so the football season has taken on. Like also,

1887
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 2: when you have kids, Sundays are just sacred, you know

1888
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: what I mean. We get together, we watch all the games.

1889
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1890
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: My son was just saying, he's like, I can't wait

1891
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 2: for the season to start. That's a special feeling. Whereas

1892
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 2: the baseball season goes on so long that it's not

1893
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 2: it's not quite specially.

1894
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: The kids Pats fans, yeah, yeah, you.

1895
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: Know, Browns something. Sometimes they pick teams they're like all right,

1896
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, they get super into the

1897
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: Browns and you're like.

1898
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: Could be fantasy they drafted someone. I mean it's a

1899
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: different generation and you get fans from everywhere now.

1900
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: They well, the Browns had such a good squad. They

1901
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: were fun to root for because they could have done

1902
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: it if they you know, Mayfield's good, dude, it's good QP.

1903
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 2: That was a rough that just was not the right year.

1904
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: Otherwise they were in place. Man, they had the defense.

1905
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in Northeast Ohio and

1906
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 1: those people are very it's it's very similar to the

1907
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: Boston baseball curse drought where they are with football. I

1908
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: mean they're they're feeding for that when they love their sports,

1909
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: they love their football up in Northeast. I hope that

1910
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: the the Browns can get something going here soon because

1911
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: it'd be great for the league. You know, that's a

1912
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: that's a that's a very old organization that's been around

1913
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,719
Speaker 1: a long time. But also like that's like a huge

1914
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: part of football is Ohio for a lot of these

1915
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:45,919
Speaker 1: country fed, huge old white linemen, great ass like Lebron's

1916
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: from there. You get a lot of these unbelievable dbis.

1917
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's a fun like.

1918
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: These like American hardscrabble town.

1919
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 1: It's like when you.

1920
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 2: Watch like Green Bay, Yeah, and Cleveland, they're like it's

1921
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: old as hell when they're playing man, it's like, that's fun,

1922
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 2: fun football.

1923
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: And they don't have like Boston and New York. You

1924
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: guys they have they have other sports. Green Bay they're

1925
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 1: only football. Cleveland you got basketball, but in baseball, but

1926
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: they love football.

1927
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 4: Jules has beef with someone else who's very relevant to

1928
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 4: this conversation.

1929
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: I do have a little beef for your brother too.

1930
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: I was sitting there getting my ankle taped or something,

1931
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: watching Sports Center or some fucking show on ESPN, and

1932
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: it's your brother, come on, we just want a super

1933
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: Bowl and he's talking about we don't have any receivers,

1934
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: we don't have this. I'm sitting here like, what the fuck?

1935
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 2: When was this? He has just won the super Bowl

1936
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: and he said, you.

1937
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: Did something maybe a year removed or something, maybe nineteen.

1938
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 3: It's a one way beef.

1939
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,679
Speaker 1: It's a one way. It's one way beef.

1940
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 2: I just well, you seem like a great dude. Let

1941
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 2: me tell you something. Don't hold a grudge.

1942
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: It's more of like a joke. But we'll be right

1943
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: back after this quick break. Let's name this game. We

1944
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: have a couple of things, or you've have a name

1945
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: if you have a name for it, Casey, we had

1946
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: the ver Tech Versus a Rod game, the Shut Up

1947
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: a Rod game, the a Rod Fight game? Which one

1948
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: do you would you like to choose to name this game?

1949
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw Veritech in there. He deserves.

1950
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 1: That's that's a. That's a. That's a good answer. Is

1951
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 1: this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it,

1952
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Casey on steaks regular season, mid season game. What are

1953
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,719
Speaker 1: the stakes of this game? Zero to ten decimals? Okay,

1954
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 1: we got a great it like I think.

1955
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 2: The stakes are like a like a seven. It wasn't.

1956
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 2: I don't think people understood just how it was going

1957
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 2: to be a pivotal game and a turning point for

1958
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 2: the energy of the team, you know what I mean.

1959
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: So this is midway through the season, but it's Yankees

1960
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 1: red Sox, so the stakes are auto lost. I got

1961
01:31:58,320 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: I go six to five.

1962
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 3: Jack did sixty three, I did four.

1963
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: Nine star power. You got a lot of stars in

1964
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: this game, big time, a lot of Hall of famers. Yep,

1965
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: that's a good score. I'll go with the eight Jack

1966
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: did ninety two nine one.

1967
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 3: We're in the same ballpark here.

1968
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 1: Gameplay of this we have a brawl. Gameplay means like,

1969
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: how did how was the game for the viewer? How

1970
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: was how was the game?

1971
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 3: As?

1972
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: Uh, you know? Back? Was it back and forth? Was

1973
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: it a blowout?

1974
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 5: Fundle?

1975
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 2: I was thinking about eight and a half because I

1976
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 2: think that people really love to see everyone caring a lot,

1977
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 2: especially in baseball. Dudes rowing some some days they're phoning

1978
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 2: it in. Everyone was had showed up at the.

1979
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 3: Park, amen, walk off run, walk off bat one day.

1980
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with a seven eight no eight a

1981
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: A A.

1982
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,560
Speaker 3: I looked at the name Jack did nine one, I

1983
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 3: did nine two, The name.

1984
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: Of the game ver talkt veritec versus a Rod.

1985
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 3: Cultural elevans of this game.

1986
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 2: The cultural relevance of this game was pretty high for

1987
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 2: a baseball game, For a single baseball game.

1988
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: I like that that's.

1989
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,799
Speaker 2: Gonna get a lot of attention in the sports center

1990
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 2: and the sports fans.

1991
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm going eight. I mean, we're still talking about a

1992
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 1: regular season baseball game here in twenty twenty four, twenty

1993
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 1: years of twenty years ago, so.

1994
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 4: It's gotta be Nate what's worse than julyve baseball? And

1995
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 4: we're talking about it twenty years later.

1996
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 5: Hey, we're coming up on the twentieth Anni Baby.

1997
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 3: Afterd eight point two, I did seven point nine?

1998
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: Where does it? Stan?

1999
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 3: Seven point nine?

2000
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: Seven point nine? Where does that go in all the

2001
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: games that we've done.

2002
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 3: That puts it right below.

2003
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 4: Highly rating Super Bowl fifty three Patriots versus Rams, and

2004
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 4: then right above the miracle Miami BC versus Miami ninety four,

2005
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 4: the Douglas Fluty.

2006
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2007
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 2: Now seeing all the other games, I feel like we

2008
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 2: gave it a slightly inflated score, a little high.

2009
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 3: But it's okay.

2010
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 1: It's okay, Casey, we missed anything from this.

2011
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 2: We covered it.

2012
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: We covered it. Everyone. Remember to go see the movie Instigators.

2013
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 1: It'll be available on Apple TV August ninth. Awesome movie,

2014
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,839
Speaker 1: fun movie, Boston movie. Even if you don't like Boston.

2015
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 1: It's a fire movie, great cast, a lot of awesome

2016
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: people in it. It was fun, great movie of the summer.

2017
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Thank you boys, thank you.

2018
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 3: It's fun.

2019
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man, appreciate you dude.

2020
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:26,719
Speaker 3: What fu.

2021
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: Man. He's a he's smart dude, love Casey.

2022
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 3: He's got a smart guy. He's got like he's got

2023
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,839
Speaker 3: like what is I.

2024
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 1: He'd be able to finish what I was thinking, like

2025
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 1: he did a couple times in the episode, like he

2026
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: he knows how to I'm not like smart enough to

2027
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: say it. Like he's got like regular people thoughts and

2028
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: able to compute them in a different way.

2029
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 3: He's an artist.

2030
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: He's an artistist, but he's also not like two art

2031
01:34:57,640 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: arty about it.

2032
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 3: He's still he's a guy who played baseball in Boston.

2033
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: Guy from exactly. I mean, I like just talking to him.

2034
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: I we didn't even get to like half the questions.

2035
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to know so much stuff, you know what

2036
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean, It just but things right out of times

2037
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: fucking and I and I went, and you know, I've

2038
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: been watching some of his movies. He's just he gets

2039
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 1: into some of these crazy roles. Man, he plays them,

2040
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 1: and you really believe the fucking character and you know,

2041
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,799
Speaker 1: and that he's unbelievable. Shout out to Lee acting coach.

2042
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: Hopefully she'll see this somehow, World Instigators. It's awesome movie.

2043
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: We got the screeners, copy screeners, whatever. It was awesome

2044
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: to watch. We watched it as a whole team here

2045
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 1: in the nuthouse. It was a fun experience. We should

2046
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 1: do some more of those, you know, nuthouse screenings and

2047
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 1: then like review and give him like how many nuts

2048
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 1: we give him?

2049
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 3: Yeah? Three?

2050
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 1: I give that that was a five nuts.

2051
01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 5: That was five nuts.

2052
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 1: All day, five nuts up, five out of five nuts.

2053
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 3: I hope he tells Matt Damon that you called him

2054
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 3: deady do right? Yeah he should, he should.

2055
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 1: I feel like I sneaked out too on when he

2056
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: said you can't hold a grudge on you know, my brother,

2057
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 1: maybe a fucking neflack Ben. He comes up in here

2058
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 1: and apologizes, maybe there won't be no grudge maybe.

2059
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 3: To my face.

2060
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:23,480
Speaker 1: Brother, Wait, wait that man range savagey.

2061
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 3: I went full like where'd that come from? When when

2062
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 3: the grudge talk comes out? I just get hold.

2063
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 1: I know we're not grudge holders.

2064
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 3: No, we can't be, even though yeah, I've got a

2065
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 3: couple if.

2066
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 1: We if we were to talk it out, we wouldn't

2067
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: be a grudge. There's no grudge. There's just a little

2068
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: like un you know what I mean. But you know,

2069
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: being a Boston guy, he knows you see me and

2070
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: we talk it out. Maybe maybe we got.

2071
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 3: Some stuff to talk about.

2072
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 4: I'm missed that we didn't get to talk about Casey

2073
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 4: Afflecks Dunkin Donuts SNL, like the best representation of a

2074
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:54,520
Speaker 4: Massachusetts person.

2075
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 1: Cigarette outside the store while he's drinking his coffee inside

2076
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 1: the store because it's too fun cold and he wants

2077
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 1: to smoke.

2078
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get the crack screen. Yeah, we want to

2079
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 3: get the dunks order. Yeah. No, He's great. That was

2080
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:08,680
Speaker 3: awesome so much so.

2081
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: And he's been in dude, his career has been along.

2082
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: He's got a long career. He's been around twenty years,

2083
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:15,759
Speaker 1: damn near and in a lot of good stuff.

2084
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 3: You and he's he's worked with longer.

2085
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got an Oscar and he's worked with

2086
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 1: some of the most incredible actors of our generation. I

2087
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: mean all the big names.

2088
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 3: I felt bad about asking had he watched Goodwie Hunting.

2089
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 4: He's like he was a little bit just because like

2090
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 4: being from Boston, that's such like a culturally relevant movie

2091
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 4: from Boston that if you like, even if you're in

2092
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 4: it whatever, like being from that time in that era,

2093
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 4: to not see that, you.

2094
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: Could tell he's a competitor though, Like he probably sees

2095
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: that when he watches his film, and it's a competitive

2096
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 1: competitiveness with himself. Yeah, that like man, I would because

2097
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 1: he said I think I could have done it better.

2098
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand that. I hate.

2099
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 1: But he seemed really happy. He seemed a great spirit,

2100
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 1: really great.

2101
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 3: He was awesome.

2102
01:37:58,360 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask him what it was like to

2103
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 5: meet Bernie made on the set of Oceans Damn. Yeah,

2104
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 5: all right, Bernie, we love you.

2105
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 3: Let's see this post post guest segment.

2106
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 1: You know, after bashing New York and fully going Homer

2107
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 1: on this episode, we're gonna end this with a sweet

2108
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: note ish ish with that being said, we're going to

2109
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: put together the top five list of least hated n

2110
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 1: y athletes. We'll do we've been bashing the top five

2111
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 1: of athletes that played in New York that we got

2112
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 1: love for that we don't like.

2113
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 3: Just a nice top five in no particular order.

2114
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: I think Jeter's got to be on there. Mario, He's

2115
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 1: just lovable. Who else?

2116
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 3: I agree? I think I think we gotta put Jalen

2117
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 3: Brunson in there.

2118
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 5: I think we gotta put Brunson. Shout out Sam Morrel,

2119
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 5: Shout out Sam.

2120
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 1: He's been loving him for years.

2121
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 5: Oh man, he's an early early Jalen.

2122
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 1: What what about I mean, does Babe Ruth count.

2123
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 5: Babe count I'm counting, babe, Yo, Bara, Babe Babe.

2124
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 3: What about Eli Manning?

2125
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just had a Fox retreat,

2126
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 1: and I you know, I always say that Eli is

2127
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: my favorite Manning. I fucking fully take that up. That's

2128
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 1: back hung out with Cooper Manning and he's the coolest

2129
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: Manning by far. Shout out Coop Manning. You know I

2130
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: used to be an Eli guy. I guess I just

2131
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: didn't hang out with Coop enough. Cooper is a fucking

2132
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:28,759
Speaker 1: man We golfed together. So yeah, no, no, Eli Manning.

2133
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, Eli, Okay, straight hand, straight hands guy, straight

2134
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 4: hand is a fucking lovable New York straight hand.

2135
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: Gotta good morning America.

2136
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 5: We still got Broadway Joe left though right Joe only

2137
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 5: got one slot left.

2138
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 3: I think I think we got to revisit some of

2139
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 3: these just because of the gotta, because we don't know.

2140
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 1: We don't know.

2141
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 3: But he crushed. He could crush glzzies like no one else.

2142
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, they said he could put down like nine hot

2143
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 5: dogs in like thirty seconds.

2144
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 3: Dude, what about a lot? What about Rangers?

2145
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 4: What about lung Quist and a Clunkquist does Wayne Gretzky count?

2146
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, does lump Quist go before? Does Brunson

2147
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 1: get taken off? Because he's still too young? He's only

2148
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 1: done it for one year, he's done for a couple.

2149
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, no one. Everyone liked that guy.

2150
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 1: And he's just so damn good looking, handsome, he always

2151
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: fucking dress cool.

2152
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 3: He's a great fucking goalie.

2153
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 1: He's great goalie.

2154
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 3: Do we put as a Penguins fan?

2155
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 4: My favorite thing ever was when they chased him and

2156
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 4: he like freaked out and like smashed them that.

2157
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 3: Oh I love that. I think we are out of

2158
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 3: respect for him?

2159
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 5: Are we puttingnist in?

2160
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: Just keep it, keep the list going right there, I

2161
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: think we're getting close.

2162
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:47,679
Speaker 3: You can throw. So does Wayne Gretzky count? Because I wouldn't.

2163
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 3: Really he's a ranger yet, but he's not a range.

2164
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 5: I agree. I don't associate immediately. I agree, do we

2165
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 5: What do we think about like a do we go

2166
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 5: with like a Derek Mason or a Patrick Ewing or

2167
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 5: a John Starks.

2168
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 3: Straight hand, straight hand?

2169
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: I think straight hands up there, dude, he's got to.

2170
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:07,520
Speaker 3: Be he's very likable, like or at least hated. Yeah,

2171
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 3: he's very least hateable.

2172
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 1: Dude, straight hands up there. Put him in.

2173
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:15,600
Speaker 4: He's getting enough other sport record, like be nice to

2174
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 4: get some representation from the other teams. What like, what

2175
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 4: we got a hockey, We got a Yank hockey. We

2176
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 4: got a giant he Mets.

2177
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 3: Mike Piazza. I don't hate him at all.

2178
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 1: He did hit the homer on nine to eleven. He

2179
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 1: did or the day after nine to eleven against New York.

2180
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 1: But Mike Piazza is he on the top. No one

2181
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: really thinks of the Mets as a New York team.

2182
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 1: It's gotta be from like the big the big, big dogs.

2183
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna catch some heats, no second fiddle guys.

2184
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's like the Jets.

2185
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 5: Do we even think about them?

2186
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 1: Man Broadway, Joe?

2187
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 3: Do we hate Curtis Martin?

2188
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: No? What about Wayne cot.

2189
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 6: Was loved and the slot father slop father slot father,

2190
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 6: and he tested Verdi he didn't play long enough one year.

2191
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 3: He belongs to the league.

2192
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: He's kind of like his his uh, his merch hat

2193
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: is kind of like Rob Low's NFL hat. It's just

2194
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 1: all of the NFL. The fate of the league.

2195
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 3: Because I want to see a good game, I asked him.

2196
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Remember I did his podcast about it.

2197
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 3: I heard he got that custom made.

2198
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 1: No. I think he just he saw a hat and

2199
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 1: he took it, or so I think he needed a

2200
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: hat picked up an.

2201
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 3: NFL red hat, fucking official hat. I feel like we're hold.

2202
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 4: On, we got a wriddle down here. There's someone I

2203
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 4: got to throw in here too. Yogi be Yo, Yogi,

2204
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 4: how do you hate? You come to a fork in

2205
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 4: the road, you know what you do?

2206
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 3: You take it?

2207
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 5: Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded. He's given us

2208
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 5: some great yogis. I mean, he's got a cartoon after him.

2209
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 1: Was that? Yeah, I'm pretty sure Yogi bear the TV cart.

2210
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 3: To all of a incidents if it wasn't is it not?

2211
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 3: Or is is it? I check it.

2212
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know Yankee history like that.

2213
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the Hanna Barbara character.

2214
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 5: Yogi Beart debut in nineteen fifty eight and was named

2215
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 5: after Barra.

2216
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: Look at I mean, it's fucking all right.

2217
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 3: We got to keep him in the top five.

2218
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,440
Speaker 1: So Mike Pia is the most lovable.

2219
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 3: This is this is in order?

2220
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: I think, Jeter, Yeah, I don't. I mean we watched

2221
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 1: that the Red Sox fight thing or when we we

2222
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 1: were doing the research for this episode yea. And the

2223
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 1: way he handles the media afterwards like he's just he's

2224
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 1: a pro captain. I think you ask any Socks fan,

2225
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 1: no one really, they don't really hate Jeter.

2226
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, retwo pecked.

2227
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 1: What's that?

2228
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 3: It's like respect thing? Remember when he retired? Oh the

2229
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 3: wordmark like our eh. Yeah. And the little kid doing this,

2230
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 3: the little kid. Yeah, it's a plant all right. Jeter

2231
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 3: straighthand Lunquist rivera Broadway, Joe Broadway, Joe or.

2232
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 4: For betwat And I also think the first Super Bowl

2233
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:24,520
Speaker 4: for the a f C bro guarantee and the Colts

2234
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 4: super Bowl three Yeah.

2235
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 3: An fl.

2236
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 4: I think I think we might have to pull out

2237
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 4: Mariano rivera Okay, I think you put Yo.

2238
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 3: Yankee for a Yankee. I can see why people would

2239
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:37,679
Speaker 3: hate River.

2240
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 5: That cutter, Yeah, I like him when he blow all

2241
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 5: those saves in Finoya.

2242
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 1: I think that's looking pretty good. That's looking pretty good.

2243
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 3: List, that's a real list.

2244
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 4: I think Hendrick Conscious might be too high, but h

2245
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 4: Henry Glunquist.

2246
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he needs to go to five.

2247
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 4: I think he goes to five, and I think you

2248
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 4: go you move the other two up? I like this, yeah,

2249
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 4: sober one. Derek Cheeter, number two, Michael Strahan, number three,

2250
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,759
Speaker 4: Yogi Berra, number four, Joe Namath number.

2251
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: Take one Quist. Oh, we got to get a hockey guy.

2252
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 3: So you could do.

2253
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 4: Mark Messier but he hasn't really owned Rangers and he's

2254
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 4: not really liked.

2255
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 3: Uh. You could go yarm or Yager with a Ranger

2256
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 3: number My my hate is we'll go lung Quist right now.

2257
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 3: So I think this list list is all right. I

2258
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 3: don't hate this list.

2259
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't hate, honestly, I usually hate all of our lists.

2260
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: Don't hate.

2261
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 3: This list is the least hated list. All right, there

2262
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 3: you go.

2263
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 1: How come hate brings us together? It's the least hated team.

2264
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 3: Have you got hate in your heart? Let it out?

2265
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 1: Number five Henrik Lundquist, number four, Broadway Joe Name number three,

2266
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 1: Yogi Berra O boo boo boo. What is that is

2267
01:45:55,560 --> 01:46:01,679
Speaker 1: that his little friend pick a basket? Number two, Good

2268
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 1: morning America. And Fox is Michael Strahan. Everyone loves him,

2269
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 1: everyone loves them. And number one another Fox guy. This

2270
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 1: is kind of it's kind of skewed. Derek Jeter, that

2271
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 1: is our top five least Hated New York athletes because

2272
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,640
Speaker 1: we were tough on them today with this and they

2273
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: got they got beat in this one. Good list. It

2274
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 1: was good list. Well, what a game. Thanks again to

2275
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: Casey and everyone. Go out there and check out instigators.

2276
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:38,600
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