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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and hopefully,

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Speaker 3: uh well, if you live here in western Pennsylvania, it

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Speaker 3: started to time to start building the arc.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the wind on the way up.

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Speaker 3: We always talk about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, walking through the car, we always talking about this

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Speaker 2: being a high point. I mean walking in was like whoa,

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Speaker 2: And then it's been poor and we thought we might

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Speaker 2: get a tornado. Last night I was out with you know,

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Speaker 2: some buds, having a wing or two and a couple

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Speaker 2: of beverages with the wife and some people, and was

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Speaker 2: like driving there was nuts, you know. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 3: You've seen my driveway, Oh yeahlo down to the house.

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Speaker 3: So last year I had to put like a little

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Speaker 3: when the when the township came through and put redid

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Speaker 3: the road. They didn't grate up the road far enough

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Speaker 3: by my driveway then put a big enough hump there.

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Speaker 3: So the water was running down and I'm at the

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Speaker 3: bottom of the hill mine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right right, you live on a hill and.

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Speaker 3: You have it at the bottom flop, so the water

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Speaker 3: when it rained just a slight rain would run down

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Speaker 3: and then run right down my driveway into my garage.

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Speaker 3: It would overwhelm the drain, so I put it in

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Speaker 3: light rain. Just everything was everything from the street was

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Speaker 3: running down down into my garage drain. So I went

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Speaker 3: through the last summer and I'm like, I'm gonna fix this,

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Speaker 3: and I got a bag of blacktop, put it down.

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Speaker 3: I tamped it down. I put up on my own

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Speaker 3: little barrier there to make it run past my driveway.

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Speaker 3: So I hadn't gotten any.

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Speaker 2: Water at all fixed until until my daughter went out

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Speaker 2: last night to go somewhere and she's like, there's water

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Speaker 2: in the garage.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. So I got down,

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Speaker 3: I look and there it was just that much. And

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Speaker 3: it was just from the day.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So it didn't get over your barrier, but it

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Speaker 2: looks at the barrier.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not it's not going over the barrier.

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Speaker 3: This is just from the driveway. That's how hard it

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Speaker 3: was draining.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I could see that. I mean some of the driving

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Speaker 2: on the roads, I mean some of the the splashes

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Speaker 2: would make on the side.

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Speaker 3: It was just encompasses, just overwhelm my drain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like the points starting to get flooded again.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, there you have it.

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Speaker 3: So that's what we're dealing with here now, hopefully. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if you if you remember a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: the water on the the Ohio River was climbing the

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Speaker 3: steps right at Hinesfield.

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Speaker 2: At Heinesfield right and the point was basically buried. I'm

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Speaker 2: starting to look at my lawn like is it ever

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Speaker 2: going to dry? I mean, I need to mow that

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Speaker 2: thing bad.

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Speaker 3: I got mine mode. Last week there was like a

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Speaker 3: just like a little window like I think Sunday I.

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Speaker 2: Did actually too, but it's getting high again. But I

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Speaker 2: didn't touch my backyard. You know, I have like two

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Speaker 2: different yards. You've seen it. Yeah, the backyard hasn't been

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Speaker 2: touched forever. And I just see like weeds, well things

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Speaker 2: to the jungle. Yeah that might be a seventeen year

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Speaker 2: old Michael. Why don't you go get a mis eddie

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Speaker 2: and started cutting things down that back there.

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Speaker 3: So the Steelers continuing to yah host draft visitors today.

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Speaker 3: Zach Frasier, Oh Beanie Bishop the cornerback from West Virginia

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Speaker 3: and those are both the locals local visits and Cooper

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Speaker 3: Dejen Cooper Degene you almost had to bring in. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'll bet thirty two teams wanted to bring Cooper Degene in.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine what his dance card looks like right now?

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Speaker 2: Like can he ever get a lift in Edgewives or

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Speaker 2: you know, any free time. But even if he had

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Speaker 2: no medicals, I mean, I think of the reason Dale

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Speaker 2: said that was everyone wants to poke around at his injury,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, let's get our hands.

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Speaker 3: To see where. We know he worked out Monday, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we want to see where.

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Speaker 2: And the same doctors that were the combine that Steelers

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Speaker 2: doctors probably prodded them too. But that was a long

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Speaker 2: time ago. I mean, so where are you at? You

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Speaker 2: at least worked out. But I my hunch is, and

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Speaker 2: maybe it's just because we love him, but if he

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Speaker 2: was completely clean medically, I bet they'd had him in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just say they liked the player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he wanted to sit down with him, and you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: let's put him on the board here. We know he's

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Speaker 3: played a bunch of different positions, but let's put him

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Speaker 3: up here and see what his mental acumen is, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you're going to play the slot here, what's you know?

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Speaker 3: And just show him those kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: So one thing about him though that I want to

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Speaker 2: bring up about his workout was it was quite good,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, his numbers were really good, especially

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Speaker 2: considering he can't be one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean how much running has he

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Speaker 3: been doing and things of that nature.

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Speaker 2: But smart move by him. He didn't do any of

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Speaker 2: the agility stuff, which isn't He's more of a straight

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Speaker 2: line guy to begin with. If he was one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent what he had done three cones and shuttles, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, it'd been nice to see them and then

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Speaker 2: blow it out, but I'm sure that was my design

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Speaker 2: of course, folks, I mean, don't do what you're not

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Speaker 3: This came after Thursday's visitors where Tyler Geiton in defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle Christian Boyd.

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Speaker 2: Boyd's have been kind of one of our favorites in

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Speaker 2: the mid rounds would fit in. He is a little nosier.

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Speaker 2: I don't even care. I don't care. Yeah, right, he's

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Speaker 2: a good player guiding somebody i'd love to see get

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Speaker 2: your hands on for a year. He does some really

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Speaker 2: good things, but he's kind of like Mims where he's

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Speaker 2: new to all this. I mean, yeah, so I read this.

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Speaker 3: At least played he's played more than Mims.

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Speaker 2: He yes, yes, I mean Mims has only had like

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Speaker 2: slightly over one hundred pass sets at Georgia. You know

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Speaker 2: a little more, I hear you. But they both have

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Speaker 2: so much tools. Guiden's nasty. I mean I remember guiding

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Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl. He was always wanting a lot

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Speaker 2: to and all the good guys, you know, like he

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Speaker 2: was very competitive.

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Speaker 3: I talked to him at the Senior Bowl and he

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Speaker 3: was going on and on and I'm like, I'm just

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Speaker 3: standing there next to him, and I just finally looked

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Speaker 3: at him and go, dude, you look like a power forward.

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Speaker 2: He's got a pretty heavy basketball background.

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Speaker 4: Yah.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's what he looks.

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Speaker 3: He is chiseled, he's not a big, heavy tackle.

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Speaker 2: But he's strong. Yeah, I mean he's very strong. I

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Speaker 2: think his protection needs a lot of work. I mean

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Speaker 2: especially in that offense too. Like, yeah, he played more

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Speaker 2: than Mims, but some of them were so many of

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Speaker 2: his pass protection reps are just get a hand on

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Speaker 2: a guy, RPO goes out and then he runs on

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Speaker 2: the field and squashes a linebacker you know, which he

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Speaker 2: does that really well? Yeah, you can do. That's what

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Speaker 2: you should do with him, you know, right, But no,

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Speaker 2: he'd be a nice multiple piece of clay, especially if

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Speaker 2: you can get him at twenty five ish, right trading But.

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Speaker 3: To me, if you trade back, I'm trading back to

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Speaker 3: take one of the centers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's just where I'm.

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Speaker 3: Getting the like if I'm going to move back, because

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Speaker 3: I think I'm starting to think twenty now is I

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Speaker 3: can wait on those centers a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think there's a lot of them, you know,

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Speaker 2: the two guys too. Yeah, I don't know the power

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Speaker 2: Johnson is going to get sucked up in the first

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Speaker 2: twenty four picks or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Barton probably does.

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Speaker 2: Probably maybe at twenty, maybe at twenty, maybe twenty maybe twenty. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's been in for a visit, right.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe he has.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that power Johnson has.

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Speaker 3: They still have until next Wednesday to continue to bring

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Speaker 3: guys in. Okay, and right now I believe they're right

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Speaker 3: around twenty or so of non not of their thirties. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So they still got about ten to go.

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Speaker 2: And I know, like Pennix is one of them, but

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Speaker 2: he hasn't been seen.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't been yet.

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Speaker 2: Like that doubt. I'm not sure that will even happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: some of those, some of those don't even happen.

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Speaker 3: Right, Those guys get you know, you get thirty two requests.

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Speaker 3: If you're a player, right, you have to sort through.

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Speaker 3: You have to sort through them and figure out where

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Speaker 3: you can get to. And you also have to figure out, Look,

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Speaker 3: there's this team's not gonna draft me right right, or

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Speaker 3: if they're going to draft me, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: you know, is Michael Penicks going.

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Speaker 4: To visit the Chiefs?

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Speaker 3: Probably not right right?

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Speaker 2: Right? Might they want to chat with them because they

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Speaker 2: might end up in the division, But hey, I don't

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Speaker 2: have time to go to see thirty two cities.

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Speaker 3: So you got to pick and choose if you're if

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Speaker 3: you're those players, especially the quarterbacks. I think the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: because again, everybody's going to want to talk to.

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Speaker 2: Them because they're playing against them right right, and you're

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Speaker 2: just gathering information one way or another, you know, Like

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs are perfect example. Well, he could easily end

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Speaker 2: up in Denver or with the Raider the Raiders. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know every little bit about that guy.

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Speaker 3: How does he do on the whiteboard?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, what's he think of this blitz concept? Maybe

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Speaker 2: at him in two years or whatever. So I wonder.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is how it works or not.

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Speaker 2: But every team has relationships with every agent. There's shure

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Speaker 2: beings involved in this. I would hope if I'm Pani's agent,

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Speaker 2: maybe I would call up the Steelers or one of

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Speaker 2: their contract guys or whoever made the arrangements to be like,

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Speaker 2: are you really thinking about him at twenty? And if

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Speaker 2: they're like no, they're like, well, we'll try to get there,

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Speaker 2: but you're not priority number one for it, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You may just look, we wouldn't take him at twenty,

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Speaker 3: but we would consider him at fifty one. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: we're probably not going to come then.

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Speaker 2: Because ten teams have told us that you could never

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Speaker 2: get out of the top forty or right, you know, right,

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Speaker 2: Like there's some logistics to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, that's just all part of the

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Speaker 3: process here.

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Speaker 2: But he's on the list, but I don't know they'll

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Speaker 2: ever show up here.

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Speaker 3: Once again, offensive lineman, cornerbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive, that's why I brought them up. And they're

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Speaker 2: all corners, are all line a lot of d linemen

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Speaker 2: and receivers. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're doing guys we've been talking about, yeah, doing

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Speaker 3: their due diligence for sure on on these guys. And

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Speaker 2: And maybe it's six good ones and four that fail. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: The thirty third team, usually Sports Info Solutions put together

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Speaker 2: That's more like that's the neighborhood, right, right right.

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Speaker 3: They have him a big boards all free.

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Speaker 3: His big board ranking is one oh eight for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's fourteen. He's at one o seven.

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Speaker 3: Travis Glover from Georgia State is thirteen.

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Speaker 2: He's been in for a visit. Yes, I didn't really

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Speaker 3: He's at one o six.

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Speaker 2: He's a big right tackle type that probably takes a year,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. His big Board ranking is number seventy so wait,

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Speaker 3: He's number forty five on their big board.

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Speaker 3: The athleticism and stuff is there. He just needs work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his hands are bad.

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Speaker 2: He's not super strong, but he's another power forward, like

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Speaker 2: I've tried not to like fall in love with him

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Speaker 3: That was there. That was just their tackle ranks. I

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Speaker 2: There'll be some guards that aren't listed as centers and

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Speaker 3: Well they do, they have their centers, I think.

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Speaker 2: So take some look. If you just search sis, you

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Speaker 3: It's good stuff on just a ton of stuff on here.

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Speaker 2: They do they do, You're gonna do it next segment.

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Speaker 2: We could do that next Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, because they now I'm been down into free agency

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 3: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And

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Speaker 3: I mentioned the NFL or I'm sorry. Sports Info Solutions

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Speaker 3: they do all the air.

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Speaker 2: An analytics company. They do a bunch of pro football

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Speaker 2: focused stuff and a lot of teams actually go through them.

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Speaker 2: I mean they pay a lot of money to get

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Speaker 3: So this is their big board, Okay, heading into the draft,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you wan't to talk about Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 3: They have Harrison number one, Caleb Williams too, Joe Alt

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the Chargers could take him at five,

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Speaker 3: Drake May is at seven, brock Bauers eight, Fashonu is

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Speaker 2: I wonder where they put Patanu too, because they have

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Speaker 2: Wow, I kind of get it. I think he's safe

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Speaker 2: mean he started as a true freshman at Bama. I'm

446
00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:15,560
Speaker 2: sure he can adapt.

447
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:15,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

448
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:16,600
Speaker 5: Uh.

449
00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,400
Speaker 3: Then Nate Wagan's at fourteen, I get it.

450
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess he was a little heavier to pro

451
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,240
Speaker 2: Day not surprisingly.

452
00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah one seventy three, I think it is pro Day

453
00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:30,560
Speaker 3: was ye sixties any Yeah, Chop Robinson another.

454
00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,520
Speaker 2: Edge, I get it. So I wish there's more production.

455
00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,200
Speaker 3: Rake Straw at seventeen is their quarnerback three.

456
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I have a problem with that. I just don't

457
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,880
Speaker 2: think he has enough traits. I mean he didn't run great.

458
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,760
Speaker 3: He's fluid though, and like he plays, like the way

459
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,639
Speaker 3: he plays he plays. It's it's very much.

460
00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 2: They have him over Mitchell or Arnold. Yeah, that I

461
00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,480
Speaker 2: don't get. It's probably like my six.

462
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 3: He's very much like Arnold to me, Like they're not burners,

463
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 3: but they get the job done because they anticipate.

464
00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,119
Speaker 2: Well. No, I think there's some of that for sure. No,

465
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 2: I think he's good at the game. Uh.

466
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman eighteen, Wow, that's rich. Yeah, so he's wide

467
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,040
Speaker 3: receiver four. Then you get Verse at nineteen. So these

468
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 3: are a little different than.

469
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,479
Speaker 2: They are a little different, right, they're a very analytical company.

470
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,159
Speaker 3: And yeah, Brian Thomas at twenty or Byron Murphy at

471
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 3: twenty Brian Thomas at twenty one, Ftanu at twenty two.

472
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 2: Nickol is he guard one guard one, Yeah, okay.

473
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 3: I'd love that if he fell.

474
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 2: He plays so different too. I mean he's unbelievably quick,

475
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,439
Speaker 2: and I mean he's nasty, nasty. Yeah, he gets down field.

476
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 2: I honestly think he could be a center of guard

477
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 2: or tackle you play anywhere. Yeah, yeah.

478
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 3: Uh Jatavian Sanders at twenty three.

479
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 2: Wow, there's flashes. I mean he gets downfield. You see something.

480
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 3: I mean if you just turned on the Alabama game

481
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 3: last year that lit him up.

482
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Yeah.

483
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 3: They couldn't they couldn't cover.

484
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I still think that's pretty early.

485
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 3: Tyler Numan at twenty four solid Yu Jade and Daniels

486
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 3: all the way down to twenty five.

487
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't get that.

488
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 3: I don't get that at all. No, Tyler Geitton at

489
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 3: twenty six, Jackson powers Johnson at twenty seven.

490
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 2: They call him center one center. We're yeah gonna do

491
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 2: a center thing here. Yeah.

492
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 3: Quinya Mitchell at twenty eight, Tovandre Sweat at twenty nine

493
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 3: Devandre sweatso he didn't look he's gonna wait until day

494
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 3: three to get.

495
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 2: Taken This year, I don't think he'll go in the

496
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:19,640
Speaker 2: first two.

497
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 3: They listen his nose tackle one, so they break it downs.

498
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 2: He would be nose tackle one. But I don't think

499
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 2: he's gonna go anywhere close to that.

500
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 3: Nowhere close to He's guarante day three, he's slimmed down

501
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 3: to three sixty six.

502
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what scares me as much as the DUI.

503
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 3: Cameron Kinchins at thirty Yeah, Yeah, takes the ball away though.

504
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 3: Marius Mims at thirty one, Terry and Arnold at thirty two,

505
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 3: Graham Barton at thirty three, they call him guard two.

506
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, I guess if I was garden Needy,

507
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 2: I would have him in my guard lift.

508
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 3: Cooper Dejeane at thirty four is cornerback six.

509
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 2: They do call him a corner though, yeah.

510
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 3: Kamari Lassiter at thirty five is cornerback seven. Would you

511
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: consay him as a slot guy?

512
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, but digging through the beast, I didn't realize he

513
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: didn't run at the combine. You're in like a four

514
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: to six six at George's pro day. Yeah, I mean

515
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 2: it was slow.

516
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 3: I think he's faster than that. But he plays fast, so.

517
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 2: He definitely does. And he's a good football player too.

518
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: But I don't know that I can use a top

519
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 2: fifty one pick on that. I think it's the third rounder.

520
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: I mean he's played a lot of good football for

521
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: a good defense against good competition and has everything else.

522
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 2: But that position's traitsy to me.

523
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

524
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 3: Junior Colson at thirty six, he is Mike one. Okay,

525
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 3: Kingsley Sue Mataia at thirty seven, Cedric Gray at thirty eight,

526
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: he is Mike two.

527
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 2: He seems to be gaining steam, Yeah, because he's a

528
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 2: lot traitsier than like Trotter.

529
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

530
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 2: I mean he's got a lot of upside.

531
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 3: He gets his hands on the football.

532
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes plays.

533
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 3: McKai Wingo is defensive tackle three.

534
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 2: I kind of get it. I mean he's a lot

535
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 2: more like the top two. Yeah, in terms of explosion.

536
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: So I haven't studied studied him, but I was listening

537
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: to people that did, and you go back and watch.

538
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: They don't ask him to be an explosive geno atkins Lay.

539
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 2: They put him in a four point stance like a

540
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: frog and then he just like blows into somebody as

541
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 2: opposed to attacking gaps like when he does, though, he

542
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: makes a lot happen, and he tested really well.

543
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson is will linebacker number one.

544
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: They're really split in the hair series. Yeah at this.

545
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: Point at forty number forty, Dominic Puttie at forty one,

546
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: he's guard three. They called him a guard, yeah, Christian

547
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: Chris Braswell at forty two, he's edge five. Darius Robinson

548
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: at defensive tackle four.

549
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 2: Okay, they like Wingo better, but okay, they're a lot different.

550
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: Blake Fisher at forty four.

551
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went through the tackle right, Patrick.

552
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 3: Paul at forty five. Kaylin King Wow at forty six.

553
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: If you love the twenty twenty two tape, well, if

554
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: you trust that or if you have some reason why,

555
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 2: that's who he is deep down.

556
00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 3: He ran better at Penn States Pro.

557
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: Day, Yeah, I assume he would, but boy, he's had

558
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 2: a rough process.

559
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: Leonard Taylor at forty seven is defensive tackle five. Zach

560
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: Frasier is centered number two at forty eight.

561
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Barton's a guard, yeah.

562
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 3: Christian Haynes at forty nine is guard four. Bo Limmer

563
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: at fifty is center three.

564
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested in this neighborhood of centers.

565
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

566
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: Then you look down at fifty three as Hunter Norsat

567
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: is center four.

568
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean these are folks, the fifty ath fifty

569
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 2: third best player in the draft. Again, they're not third Dawson,

570
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: but you could be very happy with them for a

571
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: long time.

572
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: I'm just looking here his center five on this list.

573
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: Or if you see McCormick's name, I'd be curious too.

574
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: I bet they have him with the guards.

575
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 3: Probably sant Estrel is on there at seventy five YUS

576
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: cornerback twelve.

577
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 2: Jane had him quarterback six, A corner six.

578
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they got lad mcconkiye, all done, all the

579
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: way done. At eighty five is wide receiver ten with

580
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy right behind him.

581
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: I can understand wider ten I can't understand in the eighties.

582
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, davontees Walker's ahead of him, Jalen Polks ahead of him,

583
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: at Donnie Mitchell's ahead of them. Mitchell Mitchell understand Mitchell's

584
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 3: wide receiver seven though, really Troy Franklin's wide receiver six,

585
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: and they Polkai it's on the line. Yeah, uh they

586
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 3: get JJ McCarthy is QB five at eighty eight.

587
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: I kind of get it. Who was four?

588
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: Uh?

589
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: Pennix, Ok, I understand it. Xavier limits a gutsy thing

590
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: to put out on print, but I get it.

591
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Xavier Lagett is wide receiver twelve at ninety one.

592
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: Or I think about him. I don't think he'll be

593
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: there at fifty one.

594
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 3: Roman Wilson is wide receiver thirteen at ninety two.

595
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 2: He scares me more and more. To be honest with you,

596
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: I think he might be slot only he doesn't get

597
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 2: off press roll.

598
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 5: Well.

599
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: Ricky Pierre saw his wide receiver fourteen at ninety four.

600
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 2: I'd looking him more and more.

601
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

602
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 3: Andrew Phillips is cornerback fifteen. He's at ninety five.

603
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: He's one of those typical slot on day two guys.

604
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Center number five is Cedric van Print at ninety seven.

605
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,959
Speaker 2: I like they have nor Add and Limber ahead of him.

606
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

607
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 3: Let's see Malachai Corley wide receiver sixteen. I saw that

608
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: he blew off the combine, just didn't go at all,

609
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: just didn't go. He was invited, didn't go.

610
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: If Marvin Harrison does that, it's not smart, but okay.

611
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: He at least he didn't least showed up.

612
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he showed up. He was in the city of

613
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: Indianapolis when everyone else was.

614
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 3: You're you're Malachai Corley. Why do you not go to

615
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: the combine?

616
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: I mean unless it's a death in the family or

617
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: something crazy, something that that's the only thing that's like

618
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: ex usual to me. You don't if you don't work

619
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: out because you don't feel well or you got a

620
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: bad knee, of course, don't do it.

621
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 3: But you know, right, bo Nix is quarterback seven. He's

622
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: down at one thirteen.

623
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 2: Kind of understand it. Yeah, I mean if you think

624
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: he's a backup, they must think he's a backup.

625
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: He's very close. In fact, Spencer Ratler's won sixteen his

626
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: quarterback eight. Okay, who's the next Tanner BORDERLINI is center

627
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: number six. He's at one twenty three.

628
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: Okay, that's probably early fourth roundish, something like that fourth roundish.

629
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: Andrew Raim from Oklahoma is center seven. He's at one

630
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 3: twenty six.

631
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: I do more homework on him too. Yeah. These other

632
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma o linemen are starting to pop up more now

633
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: that we dig the.

634
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he essentially took over for Creed Humphrey.

635
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

636
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: Let's see there's Brandon Coleman. They call him a guard

637
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: on here though.

638
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: But I mean I think that's where I would list him.

639
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: They call uh Seteo Lamoya from Utah guard. Okay, they

640
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 3: have his itemweight six four three nineteen Okay, maybe a tackle, yeah,

641
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: Charles Charles Turner is center eight at one forty three

642
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: from LSU.

643
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: I do more work on him too.

644
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: Let's see here. Who else? Yeah, center wise, that might

645
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: be it. In the McKinley Jackson is this number two

646
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: nose tackle? He's at one seventy seven, so there's a big.

647
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, noses aren't gonna be a man. A lot of

648
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: those upfield defense tackles though.

649
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jordan Jefferson's no tackle three.

650
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: They're gonna have three defense tackles taken.

651
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: I think that is it in the top two hundred.

652
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: Then for centers, they have eight centers in the.

653
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: Top one or something.

654
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

655
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying all of them would

656
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: fit the bill, but more than the top three would.

657
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: Who did you want you were looking for?

658
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: McCormick from South Dakota State.

659
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if he's on there or not,

660
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: But I mean jump out to me, is on here.

661
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: He was a supreme tester.

662
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: Me see if I can like Cormick.

663
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: Because they might have a right up on him too.

664
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: I think if he they got a lot going on

665
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: that side. If you click on the names, I think

666
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: they actually have a right up on the on each

667
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Speaker 2: player too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I'm not seeing Okay, I'm not seeing him here,

669
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean he's not on here. No, right,

670
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure he is. They go two hundred and fifty

671
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: players deep here, three hundred and seventeen players deep, So yeah,

672
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's on.

673
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: There somewhere, but no thorough.

674
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. In fact, there's Dylan McMahon at three oh seven.

675
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 3: He is center number fourteen.

676
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: That's yeah.

677
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, check that, check that out. I mean, that's

678
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: a lot of good stuff on there.

679
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: And lately the SIS has been putting out best edge

680
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: pass rushers, best run stuffing, d Linman, you know, like

681
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: some category, and every day there's been something coming out

682
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: with that.

683
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they've they've got a lot of stuff

684
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 3: on her. Christian Jones offensive tackle twenty is number two twelve. Wow,

685
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: I don't get that.

686
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: I don't either. I think he's right tackle, only he's

687
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: got some stiffness to him and my hunches most years

688
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: he'd be tackle fourteen. Yeah, I mean I think he

689
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: gets hurt by the depth, but.

690
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: He might be a starter. I mean, I don't think

691
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: that's the craziest thing I've ever seen. No, No, I

692
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: don't think he's a bad prospect. I don't think so either. Yeah,

693
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: I think he's not too bad. Our guy Mohammed Kamara

694
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Speaker 3: Edge fourteen at number one seventy.

695
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: I'd be happy if you want to or in that neighborhood. Absolutely, Yeah,

696
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: have to fill some needs.

697
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe the NFL team should just use this list

698
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: and draft off of that be done with it. Yeah,

699
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: so they guess some good stuff on it. But there

700
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: are centers beyond beyond the guys that you've heard of,

701
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: which are Powers Johnson, Frasier, and then everybody's on center

702
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: Van pram Granger because they've heard of him too. Well,

703
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: if you don't get one of those guys, you got

704
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: to get Van pram Grainger. I'm like, he does a fit.

705
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: I'd rather I'd rather, Yeah, give me one of these

706
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: guys that can move.

707
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be interested in McCormick over him. And he's

708
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: not that huge either. People thought we talk abou him

709
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: like he's three forty pou mover's like he's a good player.

710
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: I just don't I would take him one nineteen if

711
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: everybody else was gone and I didn't have a center.

712
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, it would have to be by default.

713
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: I want to go fish if it's if you tell

714
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: me I'm coming out of the draft and he's my center,

715
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: the center that I get.

716
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do think he could start right away.

717
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think he is a high ceiling.

718
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's gonna be okay.

719
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean he bottom ten starting centers type. Yeah,

720
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: kind of aim a little higher in that.

721
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

722
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

723
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: So you know, I.

724
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Speaker 3: And I don't know how many teams and maybe maybe

725
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: this would be our project over the weekend is to

726
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: go through and look how many teams need a center.

727
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: I did that actually like two or three weeks ago,

728
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: and I came up with like four or five. Yeah.

729
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: But the problem is, okay, like Carolina needs a center.

730
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: They went out and paid big money for two guards.

731
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: They got a tiny quarterback that they're going to take.

732
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: The Saints approach of can't let the pocket.

733
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: Get pushed built from the middle out.

734
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: But they have so many other needs, you know, like

735
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: could they take powers Johnson at thirty three? Sure? Or

736
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: Frasier or Barton. I don't think we'll get there. But

737
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: then they have nothing to receive it. I mean, like

738
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: they're so bad. So some of these center needy teams

739
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 2: need other things that are harder to find too. Well.

740
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Speaker 3: The other problem is is that guys like Barton and

741
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: powers Johnson also could play guard. In fact, Barton might

742
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: even be able to play right tackle. Yeah, you know,

743
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: in a pinch, and the Chargers would worry somebody might

744
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: take him. Just hey, we just need a guy in

745
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: the middle of our line. We'll take him.

746
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: We'll goes. A couple of those guys will fall off

747
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: the board because of that.

748
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

749
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: So, but no, I can't have like five or six

750
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: that should be in the market. Yeah, Tampa Bay Chargers, Carolina,

751
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: maybe Arizona they signed a journeyman type.

752
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: I'd still have Connor Williams on speed dial too, Yeah,

753
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: i'd be. I'd be checking in with him like once

754
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: every week or two. How's it going, Yeah, don't forget

755
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: about you're running yet?

756
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know, we can maybe piece it together

757
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: until he's ready.

758
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you had, you know, if if

759
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: you had to go into the season and start, uh

760
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: Nate Herbig there for the first month of the season.

761
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Herbig's done it before, he's done it before. I still

762
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: think Daniel's best position center, but I can also understand

763
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: not one to move him and then move him back, right, Yeah,

764
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: I mean, don't mess with two things.

765
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Herbig played center a couple of years ago

766
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: for the Jets, and they were they were they weren't

767
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: happy to lose him, put it that way.

768
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Speaker 2: No, No, I know that. And maybe I mean Anderson's

769
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 2: traits are center as well, right, I mean, especially if

770
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: you know Williams is only missing a month. Yeah, we'll

771
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: play one of these guys and then we'll have a

772
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: lot of depth. Yeah.

773
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 3: The only problem with that is that is that you

774
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: you know, that continuity that you're looking for on your line.

775
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: Oh, you'd love to have Williams all through camp. Yeah,

776
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's gonna be missed. I mean,

777
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: you don't want that room.

778
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: You don't want it to take eight weeks for your

779
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: running game to start clicking again.

780
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: You know, or protection gaffes or center quarterback, exchange stuff whatever,

781
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: just get I mean it's a position that you need

782
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 2: a lot of reps.

783
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know. I mean, can you do

784
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, that kind of work passing guys

785
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: off and stuff in walkthroughs?

786
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe? I mean if he if he's comfortable being

787
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: on the field walking through yeah, I think there's a

788
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: lot to be said for that. You know, I got

789
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: this guy, you got this guy. You know, the defense

790
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 2: keeps moving and he's yelling out calls, you know, all

791
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: the mental stuff. Yeah, I think that probably be fine

792
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: if he's capable of just watching.

793
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: We know one one thing that this offensive line does

794
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: do is they stay after practice every practice and work together.

795
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean, even if he's not in padge of camp,

796
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: he could be part of that pow wow. Yeah. Yeah.

797
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: So now I still think he's a really good player.

798
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: And I think he would be part of the He

799
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: could be part of the solution.

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Speaker 2: The other thing about him is he also was very

801
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: successful at guard. Right, So if you'd sign him to

802
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: a two year deal and still draft Bordolini and Bordelini

803
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: turns into a really good player, well maybe Williams is

804
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: your right guard next year and Daniel's walks or you

805
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: know whatever. Yeah, so you can down the road you

806
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: might need him do more than one thing.

807
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I would just have to know how serious.

808
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: I mean.

809
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: It was an ACL tear, but they're different.

810
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: Everyone says it was not a minor one.

811
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: Right, that's the problem. You know, if it's just the ACL, okay,

812
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: he'll be good in six months or eight months. But

813
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: if it's the a CL and the PCL, or if

814
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: it's the a c L and the and the MCL,

815
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: you know, if he tore more multiple.

816
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 2: And you lose tons of strength in that leg and

817
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: you aren't strong enough to play offensive line against you know,

818
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: Geno Atkins and already not is of the world. You know,

819
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: don't they play anymore? Just say you don't have to play.

820
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: You picking those guys out for us, take.

821
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: Taking in the division. And for several reason we were

822
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: talking about you know even yeah, we hop on the

823
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: way back machine Michael Dean Perry, the.

824
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: Fridge is coming in. Oh, we're going to get to

825
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: a brant with that. He is Matt Williams and I'm

826
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Speaker 3: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a couple.

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Speaker 3: Of weeks here coming up, and there'll be some new

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Speaker 3: numbers handed new numbers.

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Speaker 2: There'll be a draft hat. There'll be presumably a first

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Speaker 2: round pick. The people will be scooping up there. I

844
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: mean they could trade out the first That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, chances are you're going to add well,

847
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: you know, you're going to add a lot of young talent.

848
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 2: It'd been cool to be the first one of your

849
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: buds to have a Porter jersey the day after the

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00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: draft or whatever last year. You know, so get on it.

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00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: So you did a top twenty nine here.

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00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a little bit different process on this. Yeah,

853
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: I know, if we were to talk about this or not.

854
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: So I was fiddling around last night, and the way

855
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: that I decided I was going to do my Steeler

856
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: we can always call it like a top twenty list

857
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: or whatever, was if I'm charge of the Steelers, which

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00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: I'm far from, and I had the first overall pick

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Speaker 2: in the draft, who would I take? Well, if that

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00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: guy went and I had the second overall pick in

861
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Speaker 2: the draft, who would I take for the Steelers? You know,

862
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: So I have twenty nine names on there, zero edge rushers.

863
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: I mean there's guys the Steelers might get in the

864
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: second round that I would probably take ahead of Turner.

865
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a breaking point. But I also didn't

866
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Speaker 2: think the need to throw Turner in at number thirty

867
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Speaker 2: when there's no chance they're going to take I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's that's not even gonna happen. But that's really the

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Speaker 2: only position I kind of ignored because I didn't think

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00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: there are any linebackers worthy. And I've fiddled with this

871
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: and it's not my final answer, but I thought of it.

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00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: If I have the fifth pick in the draft and

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Speaker 2: my top four are gone, who do I want? If

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Speaker 2: I have the tenth pick in the draft and my

875
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: favorite nine are gone, who am I taking?

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Speaker 3: So you have Caleb Williams one? Yeah, you have Drake

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Speaker 3: May two? I disagree with up.

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Speaker 2: That's what I know. I know I like maymore than

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00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: you do, and you like Daniels wiemore than I.

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00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: Do you have Marvin Harr three? I might have Harrison one.

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Speaker 2: I thought about it. I thought about it, But it's

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00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: like big picture. It's kind of like what the Bears

883
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: is Dell with?

884
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like the question I would have to

885
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: ask myself if I was in that position, which one is?

886
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: I get it. Maybe Caleb Williams becomes a star.

887
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: That's the thing, But how many opportunities?

888
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: Damn sure? I know Marvin Harrison is going to be

889
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: a star, no question.

890
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: And you might win the Super Bowls here with Marvin Harrison, right,

891
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: I mean I probably won't with Caleb Williams, right, But

892
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: you might have the next Ben Roethlisberger Caleb Williams.

893
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but he's not. But is he going

894
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: to play for you this year, that's the Williams.

895
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care, right, Yeah, I mean yeah, quarterbacks

896
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: are hard, and where they end up on here really

897
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I don't.

898
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: I don't know for the Steelers this year. If I

899
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: would have put quarterbacks.

900
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: On here, I almost didn't. But I just thought, if

901
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: I had the first pick in the draft, who would

902
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: I take? If I have to trade Russell Wilson for

903
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: a fifth round pick? So be it or you know,

904
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's not that's not logical, but I just

905
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: wanted to think through that lens of It's just like

906
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: the Bears right now, even if they adored fields, They're

907
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 2: gonna take Wilson because it's Williams, because it's a rare opportunity.

908
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: You have neighbors fourth, a, Douneesday, fifth, Jade and Daniels six.

909
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: Then you got a run on tackles, Joe Alt, j C. Latham,

910
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 3: Olu Fashanu, Talisi Fuaga, Troy Fatanu.

911
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm very happy with all of them.

912
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: One of them might make it twenty, but for what

913
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: the Steelers need, I thought they were all not equal,

914
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: but all more valuable than any other position out there.

915
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you have JJ McCarthy at twelve.

916
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: Which I didn't know what to do with him. I mean,

917
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd had him on my list,

918
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: I almost didn't, you know, I'm almost didn't. I'm warming

919
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: up to him as a prospect more. I don't think

920
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: he's nearly as good as the top three. It's just

921
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: all about quarterback value. I mean, if I can have

922
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: him for five years.

923
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: On a rookie deal, like what's his ceiling?

924
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: Hmmm, Kirk Cousins, it's better than people think.

925
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: But I mean that's what we were saying about Kenny

926
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: Pickett as well.

927
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: And right, you know, I mean I almost said Matthew Stafford,

928
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: but that's too high, that's too Stafford's really really good.

929
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: I don't have a great comp Maybe I could, I'll think,

930
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, Jared Goff.

931
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, okay, you know you have Brock Bowers

932
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: at thirteen, Yeah, Amarus Mims at fourteen, Brian Thomas at fifteen,

933
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: Donnie Mitchell at sixteen, Cooper Dejene at seventeen.

934
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: He almost went ahead of those two receivers.

935
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: I might actually put him there because he's just does

936
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 3: so much.

937
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: I know, I thought those outside.

938
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: Like that finishes your defense off.

939
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it does finish you d well, maybe

940
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: a D lineman, but it finishes your secondary, finishes your back.

941
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: Seven but you're starting eleven is pretty set. Yeah, with

942
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: Cooper Degen.

943
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: I to be honest, Bowers, Mims, Thomas, Mitchell, Dejene, we're

944
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: all pretty tight. And obviously then the next corners too.

945
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, you can make an argument that the gene

946
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: should be a couple spots up.

947
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: You got Quenya Mitchell at eighteen, Terry and Arnold at nineteen, and.

948
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: They're just guys you don't turn your back on if

949
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: you're there.

950
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: You know, Nate Wiggins at twenty.

951
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: Same.

952
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: Then you have the two center prospects, Graham Barton, Jackson

953
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: Powers Johnson.

954
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: And I lumped them together on purpose, and I don't

955
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: have a huge preference, but I do think they're gonna

956
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: want really movement based linemen, and Barton moves better.

957
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: I did see that you sent me the thing about

958
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: guys who have quote unquote red flags. Yeah, something, and

959
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: the red flag on Jackson Powers Johnson was that he

960
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: declined to take the cognitive testing at the combine.

961
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nuts.

962
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: That's not a red flag to him.

963
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: That's not a red flag to me either. There. I

964
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: hate throwing this out there, but there are rumors that

965
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: he has concussion things. Is that because that did they

966
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: go hand in hand?

967
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, but I like the

968
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: player a lot. Yeah, Jerison Newton at twenty three. One

969
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: of the reasons he's slipping a little bit in some

970
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 3: people's eyes.

971
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: He hasn't it has worked out at all.

972
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: And he may not. He's got a Jones fracture as well.

973
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

974
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 3: I think he's scheduled to work out next week.

975
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 2: I almost didn't put those two d tackles on there,

976
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 2: but I was given it some thought. And the way

977
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: some of these defensive tackles Derek Brown Wilkins are getting

978
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: paid getting paid and Cam's not young and he's not

979
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: the Steelers style, or neither is Murphy, but they're getting

980
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: away from that to some degree. If he played fifty

981
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: percent of the snap, my question would be with Newton.

982
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: Could I put Newton at nose tackle? I' lah, I

983
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: don't think so.

984
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: I think he's a four man front only guy. That's

985
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: that's my But is still seventy percent of the snaps?

986
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get I mean but I think.

987
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: There's a point where I would take him, but I'm

988
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: sure he gets scooped up before that. Yeah, just because

989
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: I think he would be like what they wanted Leou

990
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: to be, but energizer Bunny verse a much better verse.

991
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: But they almost didn't make the list. But it just

992
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: at one point. It's like if I'm sitting there at

993
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: thirty on a trade down and all my guys are gone,

994
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 2: you know, or well, frankly, if the first.

995
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: Well I asked about the nose tax, Yeah, Javon Hargrave

996
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: wasn't a true.

997
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was three thirty and his butt was

998
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: a wide I go in the movie.

999
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 3: Though, But he's an up the field penetrating right right.

1000
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: But he but he could hold the point better than

1001
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: these guys. Yeah, you know what I mean. He could

1002
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: handle the double, you know.

1003
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: Then you had Tyler Geyton at twenty four, Brian Murphy

1004
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: the other defense at tax.

1005
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: It's like Newton noticeably more than Murphy, not noticeably, but

1006
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: it's a step ahead of him, or they would have

1007
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 2: been lumped together.

1008
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 3: Then you got kool Aid McKinstry.

1009
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last three are kind of interesting.

1010
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: Lad McConkie, Ricky Pierre saw Troy Franklin.

1011
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I almost put Frasier right there with those guys.

1012
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: But those three receivers I think are really strong NFL

1013
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: number twos, which is a big compliment people are. I mean,

1014
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: there's only like fifteen number ones in the world, you

1015
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I think they're strong number ten.

1016
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: And Pickens might be one.

1017
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: He's he's not the second, but could become one, right

1018
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: and I think they're banking on him becoming one. And

1019
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: plus they're a lot different than him.

1020
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are, the.

1021
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: Three of them or I think would be really welcome editions.

1022
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: They're bigger versions of Deontae.

1023
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, with slot capabilities, you know, with a lot in

1024
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 2: front of them, good route runners, yes, absolutely, yeah, Pierce

1025
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: al and uh Mconkie. I've really fallen in love with

1026
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: Franklin's a little skinnier than i'd like, but makes a

1027
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: lot of players too. I mean, they're gonna throw deep

1028
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: a lot, and he's a deep threat. So I mean,

1029
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 2: you wouldn't think of Troy Franklin as a twenty ninth

1030
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: best player in the draft, but just through the Steelers' eyes,

1031
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: I might take him. I'd probably take him over Jared.

1032
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: Verga you're not looking at safeties, you're not looking at

1033
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 3: at inside linebackers, you're not looking at guards.

1034
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right right, no running backs. I mean so

1035
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: if you really narrow it down, I think this is

1036
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: how teams should handle it. Like I'm just going to

1037
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: take the top guy. I mean, once the second round

1038
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 2: rules around, it changes because I'm not going to double

1039
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: up on positions or whatever.

1040
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: Why the Steelers have in the past done it this way, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1041
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if they still do that. That was

1042
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: a Kevin Colbert thing.

1043
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: Like I always do this in my fantasy league. Whatever

1044
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: my first pick is, I'm going to tell you I

1045
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: know my top twelve guys, and I know which worst

1046
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 2: case I'm gonna get number twelve, I'll probably get number ten,

1047
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, And I think if

1048
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: you look at it that way of if we had

1049
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: the first pick of the draft, thing, this guy. If

1050
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: we had the fifth pick of the draft and the

1051
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: top four gone, I'm taking this guy, and really the

1052
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: top eight don't matter because you're not going to get there.

1053
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: Right something, but something crazy would have to happen.

1054
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: Something crazy might happen. But I people find it funny

1055
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: when I'm just using Vin example, because he's a GM forever.

1056
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: He comes to the podium after the first day and says,

1057
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: this was a top ten player on our board and

1058
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: they got him at twenty six, and people were like, no,

1059
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: he wasn't. Well, yeah he might be because fu Waga

1060
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: is my tenth player on this board. They might get

1061
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: him at twenty, right, you know what I mean? And

1062
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: he really is the top tenth player on their board,

1063
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: not DJ's board, for the whole league.

1064
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: You know, for example, when Mega Fitzpatrick came out, they

1065
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: had him as a top five player on their board.

1066
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right, Which what's not a lie. It doesn't

1067
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 2: mean he's the fifth best player in the draft consensus,

1068
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: but for their needs, what they want, if they were

1069
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: picking fifth, then their top four guys were gone, they

1070
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: would have taken Minca, right, that's what that means.

1071
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Often you don't get the opportunity, and when

1072
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: you're picking at like twenty, you don't get there. I

1073
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 3: think they were twenty eight that year.

1074
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: Right, But then I said too about like, look at

1075
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: this list, twenty is Nate Wiggins. They're going to do

1076
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: better than that, right if they happen to agree with

1077
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: my list, which they won.

1078
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: Because there are probably some of these guys that you

1079
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: have ranked behind, other teams may have ahead and the

1080
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 3: other position to add, other positions are going to get right.

1081
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: You're probably gonna end up with the fifteenth best player

1082
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: on your board when you're picking twenty.

1083
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1084
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: It's pretty nice, right, I mean, that's how little that's

1085
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: all works. I mean, frankly, that's why the Patriots they

1086
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: would have like one hundred guys on their board for

1087
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: the whole draft. Yeah, I mean, you can get through

1088
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: the majority of the draft.

1089
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: I think the Steelers do one hundred, one hundred and fifty's.

1090
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: That's about what we did with the Browns too, and

1091
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: we never picked anybody off the sideboard. You know, you

1092
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: start calling those guys as free agents. But there's some

1093
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: players don't fit you, or there's medical rejects that you

1094
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: know they're not even gonna be on the board.

1095
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that's gonna do it. For hour number one,

1096
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: that was Matt's list of the twenty nine players he

1097
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: would take for the Steelers at twenty Yeah, and.

1098
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 2: I've been changing it every hour. Move one guy one spot,

1099
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: or maybe the gene could go up one spot.

1100
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1101
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: That's the way that goes, that way that goes, and

1102
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 3: it's working that way for teams. Now they'll start That's

1103
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 3: what the fights happen. That's when the fights happen.

1104
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: This is the vertical or the horizontal board.

1105
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: By the time the draft rolls around, there's no nobody

1106
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: standing on the table and pounding the table or anything

1107
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: like that. This is already done.

1108
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: They're fighting it right now. Yeah, this is where the

1109
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: battles are happening. Like, hey, we got the gene is

1110
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: the top corner and you're gonna take the six best

1111
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: attack all over him. Yeah. Sorry, de betting the back coach,

1112
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: you're out a lot, all right, you know? All right?

1113
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: Or okay, you got a good point. Let's fight it out.

1114
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh.

1115
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: Like I said, that's going to do it for our

1116
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: number one. We'll be back with our number two of

1117
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: the drive right after this