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Speaker 1: Hi everyone. I'm Rachel Zoh and I'm Roger Berman, and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to you works for us where we talk

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Speaker 1: to people about what works for them in their relationships

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Speaker 1: and of course what doesn't. Okay. So today we're talking

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Speaker 1: to one of the most incredible, romantic and collaborative couples

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Speaker 1: we've had on the show yet, one half of the

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Speaker 1: HGTV Darlings, the Property Brothers Drew Scott and his incredible

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Speaker 1: wife Linda Scott. Together, they've always shared a passion for

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Speaker 1: giving back, with home wellness and environmental awareness as their

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Speaker 1: major focus. They have volunteered with organizations such as Habitat

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Speaker 1: for Humanity and Environmental Media Association, and through his work

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Speaker 1: on HGTV, drew his help more than four hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty families across America find and create their family homes.

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Speaker 1: These experiences have reinforced their belief that one of the

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Speaker 1: most valuable ways to turn passion into action is to

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Speaker 1: start right at home. It's with that philosophy that Drew

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Speaker 1: approaches his quarterly lifestyle magazine Reveal, which he started with

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Speaker 1: his brother Jonathan and published by Meredith Corporation. Family is

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Speaker 1: fundamental to everything, Linda and Drew Doo and in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: they launched at Home with Linda and Drew Scott, a

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Speaker 1: podcast featuring candid interviews with leaders and experts including Ashlyn

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Speaker 1: and Philip Cousto, Jay Shetty, Jonathan Adler and Simon Dunan,

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Speaker 1: and Rain Wilson and Holiday Reinharn. Their goal is to

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Speaker 1: inspire others to have their own meaningful conversations at home

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Speaker 1: and for people to see that home isn't just about

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Speaker 1: where we live, it's how we live. But their love

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Speaker 1: story is a true and total chef's kiss. I'm honestly

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Speaker 1: a little bit obsessed with their stunning romance. So it'd

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Speaker 1: actually just like to go ahead and dive right in.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Linda and Drew. So before we

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Speaker 1: get into your whole relationship, because as you know or

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Speaker 1: may not know, but works for us, we're really focusing

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Speaker 1: on relationships, all kinds of relationships, husband, why, siblings, um,

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Speaker 1: co workers, best friends, mother, daughter, you name it. And

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Speaker 1: it's always nice when we have a two fer. Yeah

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Speaker 1: two for me and your business and relationship and we're

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Speaker 1: besties and we're married, so you know, there, it's hitting

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Speaker 1: a lot of angles so it's like, that's a triple

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Speaker 1: threat you guys to learn to us. I want to

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Speaker 1: hear how you guys met, because we really like to

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Speaker 1: start from the beginning. And I think this is a

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting story. I've heard a couple little itty bitty tidbits,

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Speaker 1: but I want to hear it from you. Our story.

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Speaker 1: It's in the fashion world, so this is handy, you know,

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Speaker 1: it kind of ties in nicely. See. So Linda, I

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Speaker 1: was working this at the very beginning of Property Brothers

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Speaker 1: come be their celebrity models in at Toronto Fashion Week.

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Speaker 1: So obviously, you know, look at this, I mean seriously,

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Speaker 1: And so we we went to to do this and

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Speaker 1: Gave you some water if you give me some pizza. Exactly.

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Speaker 1: Amazing and the DJ DJ to our wedding, and they've

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Speaker 1: great story. We owe it to them that we're together.

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Speaker 1: think I should have sang at karaoke? Because I guarantee

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Speaker 1: what I sang was not what you expected. Yeah you

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Speaker 1: Um do you know, uh, Lonely Island? Do you know

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Speaker 1: I'm on a boat. Who I'm on the boat? Oh

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Speaker 1: Andy Samberg? Yeah, doing flips and shit, that's I sang

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Speaker 1: is this my birthday gift? Thank you so much? He

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Speaker 1: and she gets mad at me and Rachel. Why can't

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429
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Speaker 1: business partner, why can't we have an actual business meeting?

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Speaker 1: I refuse. I just absolutely torture football, I absolutely refuse

431
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Speaker 1: to formalize the process. So I just want I'm not

432
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Speaker 1: going to make an appointment with our assistant. I need

433
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Speaker 1: to buck. What about this though, Linda and I, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, we when we talked to our therapist too,

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441
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Speaker 1: think about that at the very no, not at the

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Speaker 1: very beginning, but just like a few years ago, and

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Speaker 1: Linda was at first against it. She thought it was

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Speaker 1: the it's not going to happen, because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you would scheduling. No, I've proposed I'm

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Speaker 1: definitely more impromptu. I would say I'm definitely more impromptu,

451
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Speaker 1: and I think, no, no, no. So here's the thing,

452
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Speaker 1: Drew to go to your question, actually, your your original

453
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454
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455
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456
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460
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485
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Speaker 1: when do you and I go out to dinner alone?

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Speaker 1: we had we were just working non stop and we

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Speaker 1: There's this little piano bar that she had, this little

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Speaker 1: If you're making fun of Canadian or pretending to be

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Speaker 1: So we had this lovely dinner and then it was

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Speaker 1: this the server rolls out this like massive, tall, like

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Speaker 1: book Oh The Places You'll Go? The mountain on the

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Speaker 1: on the top of the character that I had so

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Speaker 1: I had created that in a giant cake and the

543
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Speaker 1: character was holding the ring on top. Wait later, Doctor SEUs,

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Speaker 1: you actually had Yeah, I created that whole mountain as

545
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Speaker 1: a as a cake. So that was just so confused

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Speaker 1: and shocked. I'm like, well, this is so you like, waiter, waiter,

547
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Speaker 1: where's my carrot cake? Yeah, that's exactly as well. So

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00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: just so you guys know, I so I designed the ring,

549
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: the engagement ring and everything. I spent a lot of time.

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00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: We were actually filming in New York, but things fell

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Speaker 1: behind because I was designing and it didn't work out.

552
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: So we were next location filming in Toronto. So it

553
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: had been like I had this ring for over six

554
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: months and we're trying to find the right time. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: we had friends, different friends because I figured Linda would

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Speaker 1: find it if it was at the house. Anyway, So long,

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Speaker 1: long story, long. First off, it was the ring. I

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Speaker 1: designed that ring to give her something beautiful that was

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Speaker 1: customized to what she would want. Then I designed the

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Speaker 1: cake because she likes Doctor Seuss and the stories, and

561
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: so that cake looked like that. And then I wanted

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Speaker 1: to sing a song and record a song so that

563
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: it was something that would play when the cake comes

564
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Speaker 1: out and when she sees the character holding the ring.

565
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Speaker 1: So if you know the train song Marry Me, I

566
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Speaker 1: recorded that in a studio in New York. And then,

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Speaker 1: um so the whole when when we were at the restaurant,

568
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Linda didn't notice at first, but all the music that

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Speaker 1: was playing. I had designed the entire track at the restaurant,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, her playlist was all her favorite songs. And

571
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Speaker 1: then when the when the meal came out and when

572
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: we were having like conversations at the dinner table, Drew

573
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, good song. I was like, oh yeah,

574
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: the playlist is so good. It's like, the music's amazing here.

575
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Speaker 1: And then we didn't catch on when that song started playing.

576
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: It was me singing marry Me, and then that cake

577
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Speaker 1: rolls out. I'm down on one knee, and she had

578
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: no idea. She's like, that's so Rachel's amazing. Linda, We're

579
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: actually very like, You're like, I'm proposing to you. It was.

580
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: It was just so funny because then she saw me

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Speaker 1: one knee and she's like, oh, she gets what was

582
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: going on. The saddest part of the entire thing was

583
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Speaker 1: that I being a technical guy, you know, I owned

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Speaker 1: a production company. I had our audio guys mike the table,

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Speaker 1: and then I had I was wearing a mic, and

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Speaker 1: then I had another sorry uh. There were cameras around

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Speaker 1: the room as well. Anyway, but the manager of the

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Speaker 1: restaurant wanted to help set the mood, so after we

589
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: set the lighting and checked everything, he turned everything way

590
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: all the lights way down for the mood. So in

591
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: the video it literally looks like I'm in a booth.

592
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: You came to see Linda, She's just black boy, and

593
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Speaker 1: it looks like I'm in move on myself. And then

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Speaker 1: the mic, I wasn't mike say, the table was miked

595
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Speaker 1: and they mike the wrong side, so the mic only

596
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Speaker 1: picked up the awkward first date conversation of the people

597
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Speaker 1: at the table next to us. Anyway, so after all this,

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Speaker 1: Linda said, can can we keep this? She said yes, thanks, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then she's like, can we keep this just ourselves

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Speaker 1: for a couple of days, because Linda loves to sort

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Speaker 1: of save her moments. And we were on our way

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Speaker 1: after dinner, we were on our way to our auction

603
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Speaker 1: company company Christmas party party, and so I said, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep this to ourselves for a little bit she

605
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Speaker 1: didn't know. I flew in all of her family and

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Speaker 1: friends from all over US and Canada. I flew in

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Speaker 1: my family and our closest friends. So the Christmas party

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Speaker 1: was actually closest friends and family sign I was going

609
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Speaker 1: to be a really great for farewell party. Yea. So

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00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: it felt like it felt like I died and had

611
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: gone to heaven. Call that. The bar was so long,

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00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: and and you know, every step we took was like,

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00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, so nicest you like, what are you

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00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: doing here? Oh? It was it was amazing. That is

615
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: really incredible, or like really really incredible. We could have

616
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: gotten married just that day. Yeah, it isn't so funny

617
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: because those nights sometimes like that was it, and you're like, honestly,

618
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: we should have just done it here and now because

619
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: nothing can ever top this. However, you did get married

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00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: in Italy, so what is that after this? Yeah? How

621
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: long were you engaged you get married? Was it three years?

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00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: You had a long engagement? We did too. I loved

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Speaker 1: being engaged. If my mom didn't push us down the aisle,

624
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: would post still be engaged? Yeah? Well it was fun.

625
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: So Linda was always you know, he was saying, like

626
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Speaker 1: we don't need to go over the top or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. We'll just you know, I love backyard wedding. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: backyard wedding or something, or that's what we said to

629
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: like getting away somewhere for a wedding and just to

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Speaker 1: have a couple of you know, our closest family or friends.

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00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: It just has to be small whenever it is. And

632
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, let's do that.

633
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: And so people two chartered seven thirty seven out of jail.

634
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: We ended up three. So we got married in Italy

635
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: in Puglia in the places Magnesia beautiful, the Borgo is

636
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Speaker 1: stunning where where we got married. It's amazing to dream.

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Speaker 1: But we ended up with three hundred and five people

638
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: came because our you know, wedding planner and the experts

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00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: at the hotel and her. But they said, you know,

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Speaker 1: and we ended up with three hundred and five, but

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Speaker 1: which is great. They came, but um, I invited people

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Speaker 1: best friends. It was very inclusive. Yeah I was. And

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Speaker 1: big and there's a lot of them. And then Linda's bridesmaids.

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Speaker 1: She couldn't narrow down because she has ten. Ten of

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Speaker 1: the girls they talked every day from high school and

657
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: so they were her ten bridesmaids, well, the girls and

658
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: the sisters. Okay, So so the podcast, you guys, so

659
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: what's it like kind of working together, Like what made

660
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Speaker 1: you decide to do that? And is it do you

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00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,959
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Speaker 1: there's more of a personal aspect to what image. I

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Speaker 1: find a therapy. I don't know about you, guys. I

665
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Speaker 1: feel like this is like therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

666
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,560
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723
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,400
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724
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: you think you're like? Magic is like, what is the

725
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: thing that makes you guys work? What makes it effortless?

726
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Assuming it is a certain well, yeah, I mean I

727
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: think if a relationship is right, it's mostly effortless there's

728
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: obviously things that are challenging, but I think, but I

729
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: guess my question is what is your secret, sauce, what

730
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: is your magic that if you had to kind of

731
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: think about like one thing, one thought, one concept that

732
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: like makes you guys, you mean, what would you say

733
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: for me? I think it's I feel like we're both

734
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: so curious about one another still and that we like

735
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: hanging out with one another, Like there are a lot

736
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: of sometimes I felt really like like I shouldn't want

737
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: to work with him and hang out with him and

738
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: like like be romantic with him, because you know, there's

739
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: so much criticism of like, oh, you should just be

740
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: like an independent woman, like don't don't like always be

741
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: with your man. But I'm like, but I love hanging

742
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: out with him and I love working with him all

743
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: the time. From her, and it does not she has

744
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: that chains tries to be cool in front of other people,

745
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: you can do it in one I'm like, yeah, hello,

746
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: that's why I like to be with him. I like

747
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: to take him with me to things. I want to

748
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: go to Paris with my husband. Not sorry, you know,

749
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: it's it's a nice thing that you want to spend

750
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: that time. I think the thing for me that was

751
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: a big Linda and I are very very polar opposite personalities.

752
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: I am somebody I like efficiency, I like a good speed,

753
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm a go go go kind of guy. Linda liked yeah,

754
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: meanders and she's she's mellow. And so the one thing

755
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: that was really important for our relationship. And again, therapy

756
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: is something that we say to all couples or whether

757
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: you're not even in a relationship, everyone on this planet

758
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: should do therapy because it's just a great way to

759
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: get more in touch with who you are and I

760
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: work through any sort of blocks. And so for us,

761
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: the moment I started understanding that our differences are not

762
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: something just to butt heads about and get frustrated about

763
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: the way we're different. We should celebrate and that's what

764
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: makes us amazing, beautiful people. And it helped me understand

765
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: how to communicate. And I'm always learning, but it helps

766
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: me understand how to communicate more effectively with Linda. And

767
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: this is the same with any relationships, work relationships, other family,

768
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: other friends. Understanding that we're all different, we have different

769
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: personality traits, and then understanding how to communicate with somebody

770
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: who has those traits. Otherwise what I'm communicating is probably

771
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: being picked up a different way than what I'm intending,

772
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: and that always causes friction. So what do you think

773
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: is a secret sauce? Did you answer? My secret sauce

774
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: is that she makes me dress up his magic like

775
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: every other weekend and do a little dance. No com

776
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: communication and therapy. You know. Roger and I always say, like,

777
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: we're very different. You could throw us the same situation,

778
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: we'll look at it totally differently, but at the core

779
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: we are exactly the same, like how we raise our children,

780
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: our values and all of that. Like, and I think

781
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: that being different is actually really a key to success.

782
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: You can't be the same and succeed. In my opinion,

783
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: I've seen too many people that are like the same.

784
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't work well. If you're the same, you kind

785
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: of get competitively. Yeah, you need you're on lane. If

786
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: I was married to myself with long hair, I would

787
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: drive myself. No, you know you got to have you know,

788
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: as we know, ying yang all that good stuff. Yes indeed. Okay,

789
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: So last question, where do you guys see yourself? What's

790
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: the dream like ten years, twenty years or don't you

791
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: think about it? Because I don't plan that far ahead,

792
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: but no, I mean I always we think about these things,

793
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: and you know, then we see where life takes us

794
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: because you know, we have plans and goals that we've

795
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: set over the years, and it always ebb and flows,

796
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: it always changes, and I think for the one thing

797
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: for us is, you know, we want to have kids.

798
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: We want to continue to grow in what we do

799
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: in our brand and everything that we do together in

800
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: a way that inspires other people or gives a platform

801
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: to others to help change the world for the good.

802
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: So quick, three rapid fire that Drew, you're going to

803
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: answer for Linda and vice versa. Okay, Okay, my favorite

804
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: because it just is and I can't not ask it. Okay, Drew.

805
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: If Linda's getting arrested for something, what is it latching

806
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: on and hugging someone and not letting go? I love that? Okay, Linda,

807
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: what's true getting arrested for? He would get arrested for

808
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: standing up for someone else and like standing up too

809
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: hard and loud? Your question, honey, Oh you made it? Yeah, Okay.

810
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: What's Linda eating as her last meal on this planet?

811
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: What's the last food she eats? Durian what's that. Durian

812
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: is the stankiest fruit that you'll ever meet. It's it's

813
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: apparently very nutritious for you, but it smells like feet

814
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: the butt end of roadkill. That's like it's a very

815
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: acquired taste. It's a Chinese thing. Okay, okay, okay, Linda.

816
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: What's eating She's a simple man. Cheese and crackers. Oh,

817
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: I love any form of cheese in a carb He's thrilled.

818
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: Any form that is. That's my dessert. I'm not even fancy,

819
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: not even like saltines. Thrilled. All right, Linda, they're not

820
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: going to get stumped. Done it at all. If Drew

821
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: was a piece of furniture, would he be It's actually

822
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: a deeper question. Well, that's why, that's why we understand.

823
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: That's why she does it. Does does a pillow count? Yeah? Accessory,

824
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: He's very It can be a piece of furniture. It's

825
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: very I would say if there was a piece of

826
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: furniture that was almost like one of those mood rings,

827
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: but also like an amiba that changes shape depending on

828
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: the mood of it and everything, that's the kind of

829
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: chair she would be. It would change colors, shapes, So

830
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: basically don't you feel like B and B or Mario

831
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: Bellini probably didn't want That's so she's saying you could

832
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: buy her charper image. No, maybe possibly, I know what

833
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: he basically like. She acclimates and she just becomes what

834
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: you need her shape, she's always changing always. Oh, I

835
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: love that. That's amazing. See, Roger would be like the

836
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: fireplace Roger would be like the fireplace tool. I'm just kidding. Thanks, apparently,

837
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm just stunted. I'm not. Well. You guys, we loved

838
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: having you and works for us. This was so much fun.

839
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot. You guys are awesome. We love

840
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: meeting couples that work together, live together, breathed together, and

841
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: do all the things together. You be our guest every bye.

842
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: That was such an interesting episode. I love the fact

843
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: that we literally didn't know all and then I knew

844
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: like very little. Isn't it amazing how we have so

845
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: many similarities. I kind of felt like I knew them

846
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: forever after an hour. Yeah, it was very cool. Well, listen,

847
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, I think

848
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: that entrepreneurs, I think couples that work together. We're finding

849
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: more and more. There's a lot a lot of similarity

850
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: threads and similarity in a creative business, you know, so

851
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: like we're in a creative business, there's business, there's a

852
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: creativity involved and like where's the balance all that stuff

853
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: that they have to deal with, But it is a business.

854
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that is important to take

855
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: away from for our listeners is that, like, no matter

856
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: how creative you are, you have to have a profound

857
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: understanding of business and how it works. And also I

858
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: think also, I mean, but their story is so cute,

859
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: it's amazing, but they've also made sacrifices, right, so they

860
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: obviously have success and you know, business success, and now

861
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: you know there was a part of them there was

862
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I kind of wish we got

863
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: going into the family a little right. So you know,

864
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: it's like with one thing open something you know somewhat

865
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it closes, but it's just like it's

866
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: a challenge. It's a challenge. Everything is a give and

867
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: take in you know, nothing's easy. I mean, that's really

868
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: what I got away from that. He was like he

869
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: works as yea, but here's the thing they both do.

870
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: But here's the thing I stand by as you and

871
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: I say, on the regular, anything worth having you have

872
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: to work harder for you just do the hard stuff

873
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: requires more work, but it's way more rewarding when you

874
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: get it. And I think that, you know, the misconception

875
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: with you know, what you see on the outside a

876
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: lot of times is that people are like, oh my god,

877
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: how'd they Oh my god, it's so easy for them.

878
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: Nothing is easy. And I think the more the more

879
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: people you talk to, you know that are in business,

880
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: whether they're married or not, but partners, founder's, co found

881
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, cocos, the shit's hard and you

882
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: got to work hard for it, and there are amazing

883
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: winds and there are challenges, and I think I think

884
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: for them, I think Linda was very candid that you know,

885
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: they decided a little late and later that they want

886
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: to start a family, and I don't think they thought

887
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: as many people don't realize that it can be challenging,

888
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, to have children. So um. But also the

889
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: other thing that was super interesting I thought, is you

890
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: know and her response was great. Linda was like, well,

891
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: I figured I could always just go back home, you know,

892
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: so say, you know, I just love that, like you

893
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: got to give love a little bit of risk. You know,

894
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of risk of in love when

895
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: you're outside of your comforts zone is sort of when

896
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: you're you're most vulnerable. You remember what got me down

897
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: the aisle? Finally we were ready to do it. Oh yeah,

898
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: my mother pulled me. And infinite wisdom and all my

899
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: mother's infinite wisdom. I went from really wanting to get

900
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: married to being terrified to get married because I was

901
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: so obsessed with my career and I just couldn't figure

902
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: it out. And I came out my head around it.

903
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: But I knew I was going to marry Roger. It

904
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: wasn't about that. It's just for some reason, all of

905
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: a sudden, the notion of marriage seemed really scary. And

906
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: literally to my wedding, my mom pulled me in the

907
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: like the sort of the bride's chamber, and she pulled

908
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: me in there, and I had this really scary look

909
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: at my face. Rachel, Look at you look Rachel our wedding.

910
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: Rachel looks like she's like a lamb being led to water.

911
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: It's like you almost feel bad for her. And she

912
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: literally said to me, Honey, if it's really bad, you

913
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: can just get out and I was like, oh, I never,

914
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: I never. I literally never thought about it that way

915
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: because my parents are so happily married and I come

916
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: from such like a happily married family, and I just

917
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: in my mind it was like marriages forever, because you know,

918
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: it is the concept. I guess right, doesn't always work out,

919
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: which is fine, but I think, um, she said that

920
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: to me, but it was almost like you need your

921
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: mother to point out the obvious sometimes. And she said that,

922
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: and I literally got this smile on my face, like right, okay,

923
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: let's do this, and I like went down the aisle

924
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: and here I am thirty years later, Um, happier than

925
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: ever with my babe. But you know, I think it's

926
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: just knowing sometimes that you can get out if you

927
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: need to. It's just having the optionality and love optionality anyway. Okay,

928
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: So if you liked it you heard so far, please

929
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: please make sure you're subscribed on Apple Podcasts and give

930
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,400
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931
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: and of course keep listening. Don't forget to check us

932
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,840
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933
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,040
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934
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935
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: with your very own relationship stories, and we're planning to

936
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: share our favorites on the podcast. You can also ask

937
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: for relationship advice, although we cannot stress enough we are

938
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: not actual experts, but we'll still take your questions. So

939
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,239
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940
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,800
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941
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,239
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00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,720
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944
00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: at works dot four dots. Before we go, we want

945
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: to leave you with a little highlight and low light

946
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: from our week, because in relationships, the bad comes with

947
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: the goods, so this is our time to mention a

948
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: little bit of both of those things. Babe, what's your

949
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: high wits are low? Okay, so I am not really

950
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: like or I didn't think I was like the competitive dad,

951
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: but I don't know the highlight of this The highlight

952
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: of this week is my our son, sorry, is playing

953
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: definitely ours is playing flag form. Sometimes I'm just kidding. Oh,

954
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: he loves you. My son loves me, so he does

955
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: like kind daddy. But anyway, our older son plays flag

956
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: football and they played a team yesterday that was like

957
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: twice size, fair size. I kid you not, and everybody,

958
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: including the coach, I think everyone in the entire field thought,

959
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is going to be a massacre.

960
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: And you know what happened. Our team use their speed

961
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: and there, um, I don't know what is wait no, wait,

962
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: what's the what do you say? They're small? But they're

963
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: mighty small, mighty they actually they won and it was

964
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: not and it was a really good game. It was

965
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: like was it thirty? It was like you know, with

966
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: extra point. I mean, it was a really really good game.

967
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: And little sky I just want to say, Skyler's not

968
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: considered to be like a short kid. He's like he's average, right,

969
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: all I know, and I can't find it on my phone,

970
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: but at one point he was doing the defense in

971
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: the front line. I mean, I don't know what it's called.

972
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't know any of the defensive line. Defensive line.

973
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: Um and a did I turned around and there is

974
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: a kid who, I swear to God was at least

975
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: a foot taller than I mean, that kid was double

976
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: the size. He looked like a twelfth grader, was taller

977
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: than the coach. It was the craziest thing. I don't understand.

978
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: I go, I go. He couldn't go straight spin move,

979
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: but I had a on panic attack. I was like,

980
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: if that kid hurts my son, I sort of got

981
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: him running on the field. Okay, a couple of things

982
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: that Okay, so a couple of lowlights. Rachel was having

983
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: trouble enjoying the game because she couldn't stop the fear

984
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: that her son will get hurt out there. Okay, but

985
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: I think that's a sports mom like thing. I all,

986
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I saw people falling, I saw a

987
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: tall snuck in, I saw a trip, I saw I

988
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: saw kids on the ground. You know what, Rachel's though,

989
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: You're insane. It was amazing. You gotta let boys be boys. No,

990
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: that is not true, because let me tell you something.

991
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: When those flags come off, there is no more football

992
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: and the other lowlight and it's not really my lowlight.

993
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: Really offer up, but it was not his lowlight. I

994
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: know where you're going with this, And he did not

995
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: say that he was mad. Okay, so she was a

996
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: little embarrassed. Skyler's on the sideline, my god, and Rachel

997
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: gets goes out of the bleachers, walks to the side.

998
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: I've seen him all day to give him a hug

999
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: on the sideline with like his football player dudes. And

1000
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, Rachel, don't go no, no, you can't do that.

1001
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: And she's like, I just I need a hug, so cute,

1002
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh god, don't do it, don't do it.

1003
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: And then she did it. And I didn't only do

1004
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: it once. I did it twice. I saw Skylar like,

1005
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: he hugged me back. He wasn't mean about it. He

1006
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: wasn't mean about it. But then I talked to him afterwards.

1007
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: We talked to him. He's like, Mom, so embarrassing. It

1008
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. It wasn't terrible. You know, he secretly

1009
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: really liked it. It is true he's such a snuggler.

1010
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: He wasn't like really mad, because if I thought it

1011
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: was going to be like catastrophic, I wouldn't. It wasn't really.

1012
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a low light. But I just

1013
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: thought it would be funny to bring it to your

1014
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: attention that you know, our children are growing up and

1015
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: you got to give him there, you know, their space.

1016
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: Oh god, I can't bear it. Okay, what was your highlight?

1017
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: How amazing I am, and how handsome I am. No, oh, sorry,

1018
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: So my highlight is, as many or none of you know,

1019
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: we have no family that lives in California, And when

1020
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: you have children, it makes it kind of a little

1021
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: bit worse because when you don't have kids, you're sort

1022
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: of like, ah, we get to dictate our own lives

1023
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: and like be on our own and not like have

1024
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: obligations and whatever. And then like when you have children,

1025
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: it kind of sucks and you kind of wish your

1026
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: family was around all the time. And my nephew, who

1027
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: many of you know as at Luke Glassman, as Sean

1028
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: Levy said, when he met Luke, he goes, oh my god,

1029
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: you're at Luke Glassman. You're a legend. Anyway, my nephew

1030
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: is here visiting for the next ten days, and my

1031
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: kids are like on the ceiling excited. I'm beyond excited

1032
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: because he's kind of my firstborn son and I love

1033
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: him very much. And just so you know, my sister's son,

1034
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: even though she's just a couple of years older than me,

1035
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: is twenty four twenty five, so he's a little bit

1036
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: like an uncle cousin to my kids. Yeah, he's sort

1037
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: of like the older brother, uncle clash, cousin um, and

1038
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: then a low light would be I honestly don't know.

1039
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm feeling very grateful these days. I don't really have one.

1040
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like, I know, I don't really have one

1041
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: right now. I don't. I don't really, I honestly don't. Like.

1042
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: I can't think of something that's really really bumming me

1043
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: out right now. Right it's a good thing. Feeling pretty good.

1044
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm excited about a lot of work things we're doing

1045
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: and great. I don't know, I'm like, I'm in I'm

1046
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: in a good place, babe. I love you. Oh my god,

1047
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: let's just end this right now. I know, I take

1048
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: it back. I don't know what's gotten over me. You guys,

1049
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I take that back. Okay, you know