Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft with Brian
Speaker 1: brought us Bobby Belt, Dave Hellman and Kyle Yeoman's Night
Speaker 1: two is officially upon us. The twenty twenty two NFL
Speaker 1: Draft coverage live from the Star in Frisco Forth Center
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Speaker 1: oh five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys Dot Com
Speaker 1: like the Big Boys, man said David Hellman. Brian brought
Speaker 1: us Bobby Belt. I'm Kyle Yeoman's gentlemen. We are thirty
Speaker 1: two picks into this thing. And when the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: made one selection that was Tyler Smith, interior offensive lineman
Speaker 1: slash offensive tackle out of Tulsa, with the twenty fourth
Speaker 1: overall selection yesterday. They are picking at fifty six in
Speaker 1: the second round and eighty eight in the third round.
Speaker 1: But Brian, this is where things start to get ramped up.
Speaker 1: This is where the meat of the draft seemingly is
Speaker 1: where a lot of value can be found. You're absolutely
Speaker 1: right about that, and some teams kind of positioned themselves
Speaker 1: with that in mind. If you go early at we
Speaker 1: have in the second round that's Tampa, Minnesota and Tennessee
Speaker 1: the replacing Jacksonville, Detroit and the Jets. So some teams
Speaker 1: had some idea there used to be a time when
Speaker 1: we would this draft would kind of go on, you know,
Speaker 1: now with the being and it's been a while since,
Speaker 1: you know, we've the first round and because of the
Speaker 1: TV and stuff, and used to be able to like
Speaker 1: just keep going. And then it was always the fourth
Speaker 1: round was the one where guys would sleep on their
Speaker 1: boards and stuff like that, and those tags would show
Speaker 1: you where you need to go. But now the teams
Speaker 1: have that opportunity after they make their first round pick.
Speaker 1: Some teams are going to start to join us here
Speaker 1: in the second round. But yeah, it will be a
Speaker 1: very very exciting time. I don't know if we'll see
Speaker 1: the chaos like we did a little bit of yesterday
Speaker 1: in the middle of this draft, but I'm sure looking
Speaker 1: forward to seeing the most names coming off. Now that
Speaker 1: you've gotten to sleep on your board and you've gotten
Speaker 1: to sleep on the pick of Tyler Smith in the
Speaker 1: first round for the Cowboys, has anything changed for you
Speaker 1: from where you've talked about last night? New information kind
Speaker 1: of arises you look at the situation that unfolded anything change. No,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of felt like though that when
Speaker 1: I did the work on Tyler Smith, I felt like
Speaker 1: there was a guy that was a maller, a big,
Speaker 1: massive guy. You know. I asked Nate Newton, you know,
Speaker 1: I called new and I trust Nate so much about
Speaker 1: you know, play and offensive guard play, and you know,
Speaker 1: I asked him about, well, hey, how hard with a
Speaker 1: guy with hands? How hard is that to deal with
Speaker 1: with a guy that's you know, it's got that you know,
Speaker 1: if he's got a little bit of a deficiency with
Speaker 1: those hands and the way he plays the holding and
Speaker 1: stuff he goes. The problem you run into a little bit, though,
Speaker 1: is about with that? You know, when you play guard,
Speaker 1: you've got that guy either that that three technique on
Speaker 1: you or that one technique. Sometimes it tackle, you're able
Speaker 1: to kind of just push shove, get a guy behind
Speaker 1: past the quarterback with but inside if you miss with
Speaker 1: your hands, you're put into a bad spot because then
Speaker 1: they right on that the fenders, right on top of
Speaker 1: that quarterback. So he was talking about is it's something
Speaker 1: you could be taught. Absolutely, It's something you could work on. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: he says, though, But It's one of those things you
Speaker 1: have to be really really careful that if you're not
Speaker 1: very good at it and you're trying to learn it,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you go back and
Speaker 1: revert to old habits, you know. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: that Nate was talking about, don't let yourself revert back
Speaker 1: to old habits. I was just curious because this kid's talented.
Speaker 1: He's an athlete. I said, he's a big guy, he's
Speaker 1: a maller. You watch him, he's one of them. It's
Speaker 1: one of the better run blockers that I saw. I
Speaker 1: just saw a guy that was deficient with those techniques
Speaker 1: and hopefully they can get that out of him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, size, strength, athleticism, he has all the traits.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is definitely one of these just high potential,
Speaker 1: you know, checks all the boxes that you want in
Speaker 1: terms of the physical attributes. So and I think that's
Speaker 1: why the Cowboys were willing to take the chance on him,
Speaker 1: is because I think they look at it as like, look,
Speaker 1: we kind of got wiped out here a little bit,
Speaker 1: and some of the maybe safer, more ready to play
Speaker 1: offensive line options. But this is a guy that it's
Speaker 1: just going to take some coaching. These are fixable issues.
Speaker 1: I think they think a lot of the stuff that's
Speaker 1: deficient with him with the hands and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: I think they think that that's that's a twenty year
Speaker 1: old player who could stand to you some NFL coaching,
Speaker 1: and we can get that out of him. Once we
Speaker 1: get that out of him, he's going to be a really,
Speaker 1: really good player. It's funny because I mean, there's there's
Speaker 1: a thousand of these prospects. There's only we can't give
Speaker 1: you the life story of everybody, right, but once once
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith is picked, then people start to dive in.
Speaker 1: You learn things, you talk to people, all the stuff
Speaker 1: that y'all said holds true, and then you first of all,
Speaker 1: you get to meet the guy. Yeah. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what that means for him
Speaker 1: as a player, but it's about as impressed as I've
Speaker 1: ever been by the personality of a draft pick right
Speaker 1: off the bat um. Just the maturity, the ownership he
Speaker 1: took of all of that stuff. I mean, he had
Speaker 1: an answer for everything, he seemed and like when Zach
Speaker 1: Martin can do that, it's not surprising. He played at
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and was a four year starter. That's you know,
Speaker 1: he this is nothing to him by the time he
Speaker 1: gets the NFL. This kid played it. Tulsa played twenty
Speaker 1: five games in the American Conference. Yeah right, what was
Speaker 1: the biggest game he played? Like against a good Cincinnati team.
Speaker 1: Maker Like that's so for him to show up? I did.
Speaker 1: I counted it. Well, he did play it to shoe.
Speaker 1: You can watch. You can watch team point. You get
Speaker 1: my point. You're being pedantic, you get my point. There
Speaker 1: were fifty people in there today. Nice. That was such
Speaker 1: a great word. Thank You's pedanic? Bad? Yes, okay, he
Speaker 1: means we need to definition. I Kirk means you're being nitpicky.
Speaker 1: Oh you're like, oh you're you're being a well actually
Speaker 1: question in the conference, I did say. I watched him
Speaker 1: played the shoot you're being a well actually guy. It's
Speaker 1: fine anyway to come from actually, to come from Tulsa
Speaker 1: to the NFL to the Dallas Cowboys, they handle yeah right,
Speaker 1: uh handle trying to throw me off. You're getting there
Speaker 1: to handle all of that as well as he did
Speaker 1: coming from Tulsa. I was incredibly impressed. You hear think, man,
Speaker 1: I heard whispers today. He came out early if he
Speaker 1: had if he had stayed in college football, I don't
Speaker 1: think it would have been at Tulsa. I think there
Speaker 1: were big time programs, like like blue bloods asking him
Speaker 1: to play football for them. And so you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: Like is the school the reason we think less of
Speaker 1: this guy? Like if he had played another year at
Speaker 1: a huge, huge program, would you have a different opinion? Probably?
Speaker 1: You hear stuff like that and you're like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: see the logic here. I don't know if it'll work out,
Speaker 1: but I completely see the lot of well. And like
Speaker 1: you said, when you talk about like I don't know
Speaker 1: what that means for him, like the personality and everything
Speaker 1: like that. I think there are clues though to the mindset,
Speaker 1: and the mindset is gonna be big for like, Okay,
Speaker 1: are you coachable? You know, do you have the work
Speaker 1: ethic and things like that. My favorite quote from him
Speaker 1: today was when they were talking about the critics of
Speaker 1: the Pick and of his play, and he said, you
Speaker 1: never want someone's opinion of you to become reality, and
Speaker 1: I simply won't let it. It's like, Okay, that's the
Speaker 1: mindset you need to have, and you know, honestly not
Speaker 1: not pointing anybody out here. But there have been players
Speaker 1: in the past who they had the rabbit ears and
Speaker 1: they they internalized a lot of that. He doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like a guy who's gonna internalize all that. That's a
Speaker 1: very mature position to have at twenty one. I didn't
Speaker 1: have that disposition at twenty one that he has. Dude,
Speaker 1: I think I think about where I was. I mean,
Speaker 1: twenty one, Are you kidding? I'm a nightmare now, Like,
Speaker 1: can you imagine me at twenty one? Try? In no way?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I've said it a million times. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: if I'm repeating myself. He turned twenty one this month. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a young man. So for him to be where
Speaker 1: he's at, he impressed me a lot as a person,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I my confidence has boosted since last
Speaker 1: night that like that he can meet this projection. I
Speaker 1: think the only thing was wrong were the penalties, you know,
Speaker 1: in the technique. I think that's the only thing that
Speaker 1: you could really really say that that that's a problem
Speaker 1: with this guy. And that's what you hope, and that's
Speaker 1: what you hope that the Joe Philbins and those guys
Speaker 1: can can if they can coach that out of him
Speaker 1: because he is a big, powerful guy. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: somewhat with Nate about this, like a guy like Kevin Gogan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and he's a better athlete than a Kevin Ogan.
Speaker 1: But when you talk about a massive guy that you
Speaker 1: know that it fought with his hands and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, that was a name that we were kind
Speaker 1: of kicking around it. He and I kind of knew.
Speaker 1: But this kid is former Raiders and Cowboys guard for
Speaker 1: the younger off Yeah, exact well just you you can
Speaker 1: look him up. He was on your super Bowl team
Speaker 1: something google Tyler Smith. Tyler Smith knew where Larry Allen
Speaker 1: went to college. I was very impressed by. I don't
Speaker 1: care Sonoma State, which I don't care if Cowboys pr
Speaker 1: told him that five minutes before the press conference, he
Speaker 1: internalized it exactly. I was like, if that that, that's
Speaker 1: an impressive amount of recall to be like, like nobody
Speaker 1: the jersey number two, the jersey number seventy three two that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just don't hand that thing out. That's a pretty
Speaker 1: big thing. I do hope for the best for him,
Speaker 1: I do, And this is one of those picks that
Speaker 1: I'd be more than happy to admit, hey, you're way
Speaker 1: wrong about him. I mean I him in third round, Okay,
Speaker 1: I bet that there's others I liked better. That's drafting,
Speaker 1: that's what the drafts all about. And we're all going
Speaker 1: to agree on all these players. And one of the
Speaker 1: best things about it is now we get to make
Speaker 1: a couple more picks tonight. The Cowboys, like we said,
Speaker 1: on the clock at fifty six and eighty eight second round,
Speaker 1: third round picks, respectively. Roger Goodell just kicked us off
Speaker 1: in the second round as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are
Speaker 1: on the clock. Let me run down the first five
Speaker 1: picks of this second round where things can get really interesting.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Cowboys needs here in just
Speaker 1: a couple of moments. But the Buccaneers pick first, followed
Speaker 1: by the Vikings, the Titans. All three of those first
Speaker 1: picks here in the second round were trades from at
Speaker 1: some point in the day yesterday. And then you've got
Speaker 1: the Giants and the Texans at thirty six and thirty seven,
Speaker 1: So Buccaneers, Vikings, Titans, Giants, and Texans to lead things off.
Speaker 1: And now that the Cowboys have addressed their offensive line. Bobby,
Speaker 1: you who what are you hearing in terms of some
Speaker 1: of the ways that they could go in this second round?
Speaker 1: What are some of those next level needs that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys could spend a premium pick. I thought pretty consistently
Speaker 1: going back to January, just when you talk to people,
Speaker 1: it seemed like there, if they had their druthers, if
Speaker 1: they could get things to fall just the way they
Speaker 1: wanted to, we're throwing out the sat works and I
Speaker 1: had to bring a bell in here tomorrow. I think
Speaker 1: that if if things could fall just perfectly for them,
Speaker 1: I heard this back in January, up through Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: up through Combine, it was man, if things to go
Speaker 1: perfect to them, it would go offensive line, receiver, edge
Speaker 1: Like that was a lot of the talk that you heard.
Speaker 1: And then somewhere in there sprinkled in tight end, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you could flipplop some of the values different,
Speaker 1: but that that was a real focus. So I have
Speaker 1: this whole time thought like, you've got to come away
Speaker 1: in the first two picks with offensive line and receiver.
Speaker 1: So I would really be looking at receiver here. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep harping on it because I yeah, because because
Speaker 1: it was it was a blatant uh fabrication. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: don't have any musts, but if they have their druthers,
Speaker 1: they're going to come out of the first two picks
Speaker 1: with a no lineman and a receiver, yeah, which is
Speaker 1: what we've been talking about as their musts for two months.
Speaker 1: So I do think that's where they wanted to go though,
Speaker 1: But you kind of feel like, you know, we did
Speaker 1: the mock draft the other day where we we took Watson, yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and you know, when you do that, then
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, listen, we you know, you talk to
Speaker 1: people and you go, hey, we took Watson, and everybody's
Speaker 1: like saying, what, really, nice player? Where are the hands?
Speaker 1: The hands? Hands a question, hands, a little bit of
Speaker 1: question and oh, Bobby, you brought that up when we
Speaker 1: made that pick. You're like, listen, Tolber, it's a guy
Speaker 1: that you know, you could you can really really count on, clean, clean,
Speaker 1: rut runner make play. Yeah. So that that to me
Speaker 1: is you know, if you start to like, hey, we
Speaker 1: did this mock like I said, you and you reach
Speaker 1: out and people like, yeah, good player, but does he
Speaker 1: catch the ball all the time? You know, that's the
Speaker 1: that's the kind of the things that you kind of
Speaker 1: get from, uh, talking to people around the league. And
Speaker 1: my big reason I think for wanting a receiver here
Speaker 1: as opposed to waiting to eighty eight is because I
Speaker 1: think when you look at kind of like I'm just
Speaker 1: looking down the list of some of these receivers here,
Speaker 1: I think if you're looking, if you start looking in
Speaker 1: the third round, then you're looking at like what we've
Speaker 1: talked about, like these slots specific guys a lot of
Speaker 1: the cluster and the third is slot specific guys. Whereas
Speaker 1: I think you've got a chance to get some more
Speaker 1: scheme versatile guys now here in the second round, like
Speaker 1: this might be your last chance until fourth round value,
Speaker 1: And so I feel like if you delay it this pick,
Speaker 1: you might be delaying it till the fourth round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of you know, maybe this is just the
Speaker 1: old crusty way of scouting, but I always put those
Speaker 1: smaller guys in one round, so I know where there are,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like Robinson and Austin and you
Speaker 1: know and Philip, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, if they
Speaker 1: view more that way, yeah, but see, to me, that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I you know, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: it and I just kind of have an idea like, okay,
Speaker 1: if the smaller potentially I'm doing the air quotes of
Speaker 1: slot guys, yes, yeah, I'd say you just kind of
Speaker 1: put them right there and just see if they'll pick
Speaker 1: those things off. And who did we get the sense
Speaker 1: that they really liked yesterday or we're Burke's in London,
Speaker 1: and then like those are not the smaller slot, So
Speaker 1: I mean that that's do you look down and do
Speaker 1: you start going like, okay, you know it's pickings more
Speaker 1: of that type of a person that I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: London is is giant, and yeah, I mean it can't
Speaker 1: really compare many of people to trade. No, No, Like
Speaker 1: like I'm London and Burke and I mean London's two nineteen,
Speaker 1: burkes Is two twenty five. Like those are big, thick
Speaker 1: built receivers, and there's not really anybody in this range
Speaker 1: right now that that that's got a similar builder or
Speaker 1: type of player. But there are guys that can be
Speaker 1: like an X receiver though sure, no, But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying like in terms of I think that if we're
Speaker 1: trying to like narrow down who fits more like those
Speaker 1: type of players that they were clearly interested in the
Speaker 1: first that's and again, like I harp on this all
Speaker 1: the time, Like if you're just looking at this with
Speaker 1: no context, you're like, oh, you got there's ten of
Speaker 1: these guys. But then you're like, Okay, well, maybe they
Speaker 1: don't think sky More can be an X. Maybe you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they take they don't like John Metchi because of
Speaker 1: the injuries, Maybe they don't like George Pickens because of
Speaker 1: some of the maturity issues, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like the list is suddenly a lot shorter. You know, what,
Speaker 1: do you think teams have Minchia's injury wise? Some teams
Speaker 1: might not have them on their board, some others may
Speaker 1: have him as a second round or third round player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I don't care. It's David Helman. I don't
Speaker 1: see the same way. I don't care at all. Care.
Speaker 1: I think that she's a great player. I would have
Speaker 1: him in the early parts of the second round. Now
Speaker 1: do the Cowboys think that way? Probably not that they
Speaker 1: They've been very adamant throughout the entire process of having
Speaker 1: the need for receiver now and not wanting another rehab
Speaker 1: project because Michael Gallup's already a rehab part. That's where
Speaker 1: that's That's the discussion I've had on the radio on
Speaker 1: one oh five three a lot, because people have asked
Speaker 1: me about Minshi a lot, and I think if he
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt, he would be a guy that we
Speaker 1: would absolutely hear early in this day. I feel like
Speaker 1: Metchi and Pickens both could both be gone by pick forty,
Speaker 1: or they could both be hanging around for a surprisingly
Speaker 1: long time. And it's just one of those things. I guess, yet,
Speaker 1: which one would you take out of the two? I
Speaker 1: know that's tough, and there's off the field stuff with pickings,
Speaker 1: with the the sort of deal there By the way,
Speaker 1: we've got the Buccaneers selection, first pick of the second round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go. And with the thirty third pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Seleke
Speaker 1: logan Hall, defensive end Joosta. First player off the board.
Speaker 1: He's a Texas product, went to Belton High School down
Speaker 1: in the Super Syntex Region. Edge rusher, tweener, you could
Speaker 1: really call him both. The Cowboys liked him as a
Speaker 1: potential three technique, but Logan Hall off the board with
Speaker 1: pick number thirty three the NFL Draft, Bryan, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I really liked I think the Cowboys looked at Logan
Speaker 1: Hall as a defensive tackle, possibly as the three technique.
Speaker 1: There's some people that talked about him also playing off
Speaker 1: that edge. This is one of those guys. And it's
Speaker 1: really funny about this draft is there's a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys that are really long and tall, a lot
Speaker 1: of those tight ends. But Hall is one of those
Speaker 1: guys though. You watch him playing this scheme, he's built
Speaker 1: a lot like a five technique. Yeah, that head up
Speaker 1: defensive end and the three four type of a defensive end.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what the Buccaneers how they use him there.
Speaker 1: But you knows one thing about him is a six
Speaker 1: six and two eighty three. He comes off the ball quick.
Speaker 1: I mean there's you think for a long guy that
Speaker 1: he's gonna be like it's gonna take some time for
Speaker 1: him to get going, but man, you could get him
Speaker 1: off the ball quick. I think his power, though, is
Speaker 1: his best trade. You could watch him like he bends
Speaker 1: the knees, get some of those guys and will forklift
Speaker 1: some of those those guards that he plays against. A really,
Speaker 1: really good player here. Senior Bowl guy was really impressive
Speaker 1: down in Mobile. Let's continue talking about Logan Hall and
Speaker 1: we've got some other picks on the way coming up
Speaker 1: in just a bit. The Vikings are on the clock now,
Speaker 1: followed by the Titans and the Giants are not on
Speaker 1: the clock. I've got an NFC North trade and that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun topic when we come back. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about it on the radio, but we're gonna go
Speaker 1: to the internet side of things. Join us on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. But well, we'll be right back. You're
Speaker 1: on one O five three. The fan Brian Cooter Curst
Speaker 1: saw somebody he wanted right off the jump. Humpt, this
Speaker 1: has to be the receiver. I know we say that
Speaker 1: every Pickens, well they've got they've got all those I mean,
Speaker 1: we ran through all those guys. I know when I
Speaker 1: talked to those guys um during the week, they liked
Speaker 1: Pickens and they thought about Pickens actually at twenty eight.
Speaker 1: So maybe this with him still being on the board,
Speaker 1: they took you know, they took Wyatt. There were some
Speaker 1: questions about his off the field stuff. Brian might be
Speaker 1: up there, like, man, we've got to make it a bulldog. Well,
Speaker 1: there's there's there's there's a kind of there. They were
Speaker 1: thinking about this, the two picks that they have. I
Speaker 1: believe they have another one. Yeah, they have another one
Speaker 1: at fifty nine unless state they sent that to Minnesota.
Speaker 1: That is there another one that they have. They got
Speaker 1: fifty three as well. They sent fifty three and fifty
Speaker 1: nine to Mini to get this. Okay, so this is yeah,
Speaker 1: they were talking about they were talking about hitting receivers
Speaker 1: back to back in the second round. What they did
Speaker 1: was they just took both those picks and they're gonna
Speaker 1: go probably go up here and get them one of this.
Speaker 1: Like I say, I mean, we'll keep an eye on
Speaker 1: Pickens and stuff like that. I know that they talked
Speaker 1: about it potentially at twenty eight. This is interesting. This
Speaker 1: is the third time that this pick has been shifted
Speaker 1: around the division because it went from Detroit into Minnesota
Speaker 1: and then now to Green Bay and it's ultimately going
Speaker 1: to be a wide receiver here, Bobby, are you hearing
Speaker 1: anything on who this wide receiver could be? I mean,
Speaker 1: what are the names here? Pickens, Sky more chatter that
Speaker 1: Watson could have slipped into the back end of the
Speaker 1: first which I know a lot of people. I mean,
Speaker 1: there there was enough chatter that it could be something
Speaker 1: that they were interested in. But I know there were
Speaker 1: other people around the league that were like, that's Rich
Speaker 1: Watson going that highest. Rich, we like him, but that's
Speaker 1: that's a little much. That's kind of what the impression
Speaker 1: we got from talking. Here. Here's the pick the Minnesota Bikers.
Speaker 1: I've tried it, the thirty fourth pig to the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. With the thirty fourth pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: two twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: select Christian Watson. Now there you go, North Dakota State,
Speaker 1: and and because he was picked in the second round,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers doesn't think he'll bust. He's going from West.
Speaker 1: That on Twitter today, I guess the yellow he justified
Speaker 1: it was great the Packers didn't take a first round
Speaker 1: receiver because first round receivers bust. That's what he told
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee today. Stays up north and he's back on
Speaker 1: the Green and Yellow side. So we mentioned it heading
Speaker 1: into break But there was a trade out of the
Speaker 1: thirty fourth spot for the Minnesota Vikings. They pick up
Speaker 1: picks number fifty three and fifty nine from the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, and the Packers go up to get another
Speaker 1: target for Aaron Rodgers. Christian Watson, wide receiver out of
Speaker 1: North Dakota, stayed off the board with the second pick
Speaker 1: in the second round. Brian, when you look at this guy,
Speaker 1: we talked about him a minute ago as a potential
Speaker 1: Cowboys target, but really this is one of those guys
Speaker 1: that fits that Packers mold quite well. Yeah, they absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know when you start to talk about they do
Speaker 1: not want anything to do with a small guy, and
Speaker 1: this guy is clearly if you know, you look at
Speaker 1: him six four, two hundred and eight pounds, you know
Speaker 1: he's the son of a former NFL player, Tim Watson.
Speaker 1: He played in the league in ninety three to ninety six.
Speaker 1: And he's a Tampa, Florida kid, which is interesting and
Speaker 1: you wonder how does he end up in North Dakota.
Speaker 1: But you know, there was it was some talk sometimes
Speaker 1: these kids do they fall through the crack. You thought
Speaker 1: maybe this would be an SEC kid or an ACC kid,
Speaker 1: but the majority of his catches are really these chunk plays.
Speaker 1: He's super explosive with the ball in his hands. He
Speaker 1: could stretch the field and a half in a flash.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like though that. You know, there
Speaker 1: was some of the talk about though about his ability
Speaker 1: to catch the football, how consistently. We talked about that
Speaker 1: a little bit leading up to this, to this uh drafting,
Speaker 1: to the second day here. But man, the thing about
Speaker 1: him you got to like about him is how well
Speaker 1: he finishes. And that's something I have absolutely no issue
Speaker 1: with at all. He is a I mean, you want
Speaker 1: to talk about traits. Yeah, there's questions about the hands.
Speaker 1: The route running could still get better. I think you
Speaker 1: saw if you look at, you know, pre tape from
Speaker 1: previous years, I think he saw he steadily improved, and
Speaker 1: you know it's not leaps and bounds, but I think
Speaker 1: you're seeing improvement from and that may be something that
Speaker 1: you can project out a little bit. A big question
Speaker 1: for a lot of these teams was going to be
Speaker 1: about the hands, Dave, how much does that knock a
Speaker 1: draft stock for you? Real quickly, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: Titans selection. Billy choose up, sir Houston. Oiler, it's got
Speaker 1: the purple or the powder blue shoes too? All right?
Speaker 1: Here we go with the thirty fifth pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two draft NFL draft, the Tennessee Titans select
Speaker 1: Roger McQuary teas fences back Auburn University or Guy Kyle.
Speaker 1: I do like Roger McCreary quite a bit, and I
Speaker 1: mean cornerback out of Auburn. There's not a ton of
Speaker 1: people that are more battle testing than what he brings
Speaker 1: to the table from going up against some of these
Speaker 1: guys in the SEC the last couple of years, Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase had a good game against him. He was able
Speaker 1: to shut down some of those Alabama receivers over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Brian, tell me about what you
Speaker 1: like about Roger McCreary going to Tennessee. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned that, I mean there there are times
Speaker 1: when you watch him play. I mean he gets right
Speaker 1: up on uh these uh, these wide receivers, and I
Speaker 1: mean he is going to be an all day type
Speaker 1: of guy. I really like the fact that how will
Speaker 1: he played in the red zone. I mean there were
Speaker 1: times where I felt like though the game was kind
Speaker 1: of on the line for Auburn and his ability to
Speaker 1: drive on the football, especially down there in that tight area. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a he's pretty impressive. Like he reads to play
Speaker 1: really really quickly and then he burst and he's you know,
Speaker 1: I could say he's a really nice player in that
Speaker 1: red zone. He's not going to give up many catches
Speaker 1: down there. The relax backpedal, the positioning in route, He's
Speaker 1: able to play with balanced body control. You're not going
Speaker 1: to see him get flagged for being out of position
Speaker 1: or being lazy with his technique. So he's not afraid
Speaker 1: to tackle either too. I like that about this kid.
Speaker 1: Had four pass breakups in that performance against Alabama. The speed,
Speaker 1: the footwork already for that next level. And I really do,
Speaker 1: like I said, I love his experience. He's been that
Speaker 1: starter on the outside for the Tigers since twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: and I think he comes in as one of the better,
Speaker 1: more battle tested guys in the league. Dave, you got
Speaker 1: a chance to see him at the Senior Bowl. Toot trade.
Speaker 1: By the way, We've seen a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. That's the like the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: rosters just get better and better and better. The Jets
Speaker 1: are up. They just flipped with the Giants. So the
Speaker 1: first four picks in the second round of all them traded.
Speaker 1: Also that they're all like true. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: would you call the Jets and Giants rivals? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's funny to see like NFC North teams swapping
Speaker 1: picks Jets and Giants that boys traded with the Eagles
Speaker 1: last year. I know it happens. I wonder like may
Speaker 1: teams are maybe more willing to do that because more
Speaker 1: and more it's like, if you want to play the
Speaker 1: guys and move on. Yeah, I think. I think what
Speaker 1: happens nowadays is you're just interested in getting a player,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I don't care who it's. You know,
Speaker 1: you're in my way of getting it, you know, if
Speaker 1: it's a rival or whatever, and they're willing to trade
Speaker 1: with you so you can get your player. I think
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. You have to think about.
Speaker 1: What is the compensation on the trade? Do we have
Speaker 1: that yet? Yeah, it's a flip because the Jets were
Speaker 1: at thirty eight, so they go up to thirty six
Speaker 1: and they're giving one forty six to the Giants. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the Jets had three picks yesterday and they were
Speaker 1: all very nice picks, with Jermaine Johnson being the last one.
Speaker 1: They took him in the back half of the round
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson went and got their wide receiver, but probably
Speaker 1: the best pick for them thus far, a mod Sauce
Speaker 1: gardener early in that that first round. So this is
Speaker 1: already their fourth time selecting here in the first thirty
Speaker 1: What is this now thirty six picks of the draft?
Speaker 1: Who could they be going at here? Is this an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman? Maybe? Maybe? But who? That's my biggest question
Speaker 1: is is it going You probably wouldn't see a tackle here.
Speaker 1: Maybe interior guy, but there's not necessarily anything Ryman could
Speaker 1: play inside? Could he? I think? So? Yeah? No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do, I think tell me tell me about Ryman
Speaker 1: and what he brings his table. I mean, Ryman's already look,
Speaker 1: I mean there's he's obviously converted tight end, and he's
Speaker 1: he's put on a lot of weight since he got
Speaker 1: Central Michigan. And so you know, there's this discussion of like,
Speaker 1: you know, well, that's obviously a raw player. But I know, Brian,
Speaker 1: you've heard that. You know a lot of NFL teams
Speaker 1: don't view him as raw at all. No, they don't.
Speaker 1: And and so I mean he's somebody that I think
Speaker 1: with the athleticism he has to get to the second
Speaker 1: level and stuff like, I think he'd be fine playing guard. Yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny that the people you say, well
Speaker 1: is he he's just because of the converted tight end
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. The question about him is going
Speaker 1: to be about putting on the weight and things like that.
Speaker 1: But he's done a pretty good job of that, you know,
Speaker 1: through through this time, so you know, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised I could say that. Yet, you know, these I
Speaker 1: wonder if these one of these teams that maybe double
Speaker 1: dip a little bit on a cornerback, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: you know, I mean when they get sauce, I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you're into system. Maybe one of these safeties coming
Speaker 1: off the board. Robert Salo though, being a guy, being
Speaker 1: that defensive coach. But they've got to find weapons though too.
Speaker 1: For that. They got to find some guys to be
Speaker 1: able to help that that quarterback. The value at corner
Speaker 1: does look really good. I mean, I thought Kyler Gordon
Speaker 1: had a shot to go in the first round. Yea,
Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon Andrew Booth is still there. That Staine's highest
Speaker 1: rated guy left. I wonder if his hernia surgery is
Speaker 1: hurting him in that I mean I don't. It doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like it should. But anytime a talented guy with
Speaker 1: an injury falls, it makes you wonder, Brian, who's some
Speaker 1: of them? Who are some of the top overall guys?
Speaker 1: Really no, necessarily tie is here to the Jets, But
Speaker 1: who are some of the top guys remaining on your board? Yeah? Uh,
Speaker 1: go back to it here real quick, if like pull it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me look at my other I got me I
Speaker 1: got too many tabs open here. You got a lot
Speaker 1: going on? We can we can take a breaking from
Speaker 1: the Jets here the pick. Yeah, okay, yeah, we go that.
Speaker 1: That'd be great. The New York Giants have three S
Speaker 1: thirty six pick to the New York Jets. With the
Speaker 1: thirty six pick in the two twenty two NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the New York Jets select bruese Hall, running back with
Speaker 1: state first running back off the board. Shout out. Philip
Speaker 1: Tanner trained him out in Frisco leading up to the draft.
Speaker 1: Let's cannot say enough good things about bruese Hall. Let's
Speaker 1: hear about him. I mean, look at the testing there,
Speaker 1: forty three nine guy at two hundred and seventeen pounds,
Speaker 1: and I know Dan has talked about this. It doesn't
Speaker 1: the testing doesn't quite show up. I don't think in
Speaker 1: terms of it. It It doesn't look as obvious on tape.
Speaker 1: But to me, Breece Hall is like a legit NFL
Speaker 1: running back in terms of the way he sees holes,
Speaker 1: how quickly he's able to spot him, how quickly he's
Speaker 1: able to get into that lane. The contact balance is
Speaker 1: really good. He's hard to get down. I like Breece
Speaker 1: Hall a lot, and he can dunk a basketball. According
Speaker 1: to Philip Tanner, what he loves. What were the terms
Speaker 1: of this trade? Do you do you know him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This was what one? This was jumping up two to
Speaker 1: get one? What was it fifty one forty six? So
Speaker 1: it's not a huge price. I just I bring it
Speaker 1: up because I just every time it seems like the
Speaker 1: league is trending into this forward thinking, analytic driven league.
Speaker 1: You see teams straight up the draft or running back.
Speaker 1: But hey, if you like the I mean, who do
Speaker 1: you think was where they they thought Texans were about
Speaker 1: to take him? Maybe? Yeah? I mean actually I did
Speaker 1: see him linked to the Texans, So I get if
Speaker 1: you're if you're worried about him going, they're fine and that.
Speaker 1: Like I said, that's not a huge price to pay. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. And this, by the way, is my number
Speaker 1: one running back. Yep. And and I'm really uh you
Speaker 1: when you watch him play, this guy you could see
Speaker 1: him score from any point on the field. I mean
Speaker 1: he is. He will make he will make some seriously
Speaker 1: nice long runs and he'll get into the open field.
Speaker 1: I love the way he's He's one of those I
Speaker 1: thought he was the best finisher of the backs that
Speaker 1: I saw. Again, didn't matter where you hand him the ball,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna make tackles miss, he's gonna turn
Speaker 1: the jets on, He's gonna get into the ends on
Speaker 1: no matter how you go. Here's the Texans selection at
Speaker 1: thirty seven pick. But here's Jonathan in the two thousand
Speaker 1: and twenty two NFL draft the Houston Texans to like
Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie dB from Baylor. There you go, this is
Speaker 1: this is my guy. I've always been on him, man.
Speaker 1: I thought he was a fantastic player at Baylor. Joking,
Speaker 1: of course, now I do think he is a good player. Brian,
Speaker 1: tell me why you love Jalen Petrie so much? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I tell you what. I like about him. I think
Speaker 1: that he's got some tyrant Matthew to his game. I
Speaker 1: really really do. I think when you put him around
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, he is going to find ways
Speaker 1: to make plays. He's not gonna you know, he's kind
Speaker 1: of a hybrid linebacker safety. He's a sneaky player when
Speaker 1: it comes to shooting the gap. He makes plays. He's
Speaker 1: communicates to everybody what's going on. You know, he makes
Speaker 1: sure everybody's on the same page. You could see it.
Speaker 1: I mean he's telling everybody, Hey, look at this wing.
Speaker 1: He's gonna come across. I mean, those are the kinds
Speaker 1: of things I love about him. He really does a
Speaker 1: great job of timing his rushes. His blitz is he's
Speaker 1: the high football IQ. He's always working towards the ball
Speaker 1: to make a play. He really covers some ground on
Speaker 1: the move five eleven, one ninety eight. I think that's
Speaker 1: a heck of a football player right there. People around
Speaker 1: the league talk a lot about his leadership traits and
Speaker 1: what a big culture guy he is. Brent Callaway, the
Speaker 1: performance director of at Exos and Frisco, He raved about
Speaker 1: the kid's work ethic and just his drive to constantly
Speaker 1: improve everything that he could. People just talk really highly
Speaker 1: for his football character. Big Defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: he was two time first team All Big twelve and
Speaker 1: he actually started his career off as a linebacker when
Speaker 1: Matt Rule was the head coach down in Waco, and
Speaker 1: you could see some of that linebacker in the way
Speaker 1: that he plays. I mean, he plays downhill, does a
Speaker 1: lot of things exceptionally well. He's a really big part
Speaker 1: of that that Baylor defense. By the way, Chris Beam
Speaker 1: in the other room, very big Baylor fan. He said
Speaker 1: sick and Bears whenever the pick was being made. So
Speaker 1: congrats Chris Beam, first of many Baylor Bears. I'm sure
Speaker 1: to be taken on the board. Giants just traded back again.
Speaker 1: The Giants are just trying to stockpile picks. That's which
Speaker 1: I can't help but think about what Stephen, which that
Speaker 1: apparently might not have been a lie because I was
Speaker 1: giving him grief earlier. Stephen said, like rounds one and two,
Speaker 1: maybe a little thinner than than you're used to. Rounds
Speaker 1: three to five incredible value, And it seems like everybody
Speaker 1: in the league is trying to drop back and add
Speaker 1: picks into that range. Yeah, Giants get forty three and
Speaker 1: one fourteen from Atlanta for thirty eight and their picks
Speaker 1: already in for Atlanta picking, and we'll see that's what
Speaker 1: that's the league for willis I'm just saying, no, we
Speaker 1: would have played it. I'm just saying, is this who
Speaker 1: it is? Sorry? Yeah, I didn't mean. I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to send people into a panic. You know, I think
Speaker 1: this is where you know what you did. I realized
Speaker 1: that as soon as I did it. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that people are letting what well the giants are.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised people are letting people into the top of
Speaker 1: the rounds, I really am. I well, if they don't
Speaker 1: think the talent is as good as usual two rounds.
Speaker 1: But no, what I'm saying people dropping back. Usually when
Speaker 1: you when you sleep on your board the next night,
Speaker 1: you know the next day it's like, no, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go get this guy. We'll go get this guy. Sometimes
Speaker 1: people won't let you in. Maybe they're trying to tell
Speaker 1: you something about this draft class. Yeah, maybe so. And
Speaker 1: it was really that way. Yesterday we were having Bobby
Speaker 1: break breakdown the trade values in the trade charts for
Speaker 1: all of these picks in live time, and I mean
Speaker 1: it feels like much of the same. These haven't been
Speaker 1: massive King's ransoms to go up and get significant players.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the guys that have been traded
Speaker 1: up to go get Christian Watson, that could be Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers top target in a couple of years. You look
Speaker 1: at Bree Haul that's the running back of the future
Speaker 1: for the Jets. I mean, these are big time players
Speaker 1: or at least positions that could make a big impact.
Speaker 1: And it hasn't taken a whole lot to go up
Speaker 1: and get players like that. Yeah, I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: we've seen it now. This is definitely people are willing.
Speaker 1: I think that's the reason why you're seeing a it's
Speaker 1: hard to find traded back part or was find hard
Speaker 1: to find trade up partners. But b it's also like
Speaker 1: a fifth round is more valuable I think to people
Speaker 1: than a normal fifth round or would because they think
Speaker 1: that there's going to be potentially fourth round graded players
Speaker 1: there and things like that, and so got four, we'll
Speaker 1: find a way to go up and get one of
Speaker 1: these players we're talking about it. I was actually I
Speaker 1: was actually gonna say the opposite. I don't think. Maybe
Speaker 1: our Cowboy fan listeners don't want to hear it. But
Speaker 1: if that's where the value of the draft is, maybe
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are like, hell no, I'm just four fifth
Speaker 1: round picks rules. I'm just looking at my board right now.
Speaker 1: Of the stack, I had had Haul at thirty, I
Speaker 1: had brief Hall at thirty four, I had Logan Hall
Speaker 1: at thirty six, I had Petree at thirty eight, and
Speaker 1: then McCurry I had there down at at forty eight.
Speaker 1: So he's the loan kind of down the gut, like
Speaker 1: a round of applause. Here we go right there, here's
Speaker 1: the fact, like a gold star on this day April
Speaker 1: twenty nine, two thousand and five in Iraq. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: you take a bow. Yeah, I got you here. Ron
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Speaker 1: his family in the Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors TAPS,
Speaker 1: which offers care to the grieving families of lost military
Speaker 1: loved ones. Now it's time to make the pick, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to turn it over to Minerva. Get to
Speaker 1: his mother, A following hero. Clifford gets in Minerva go
Speaker 1: for it. Thank you so much, thank you. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: go with the thirty eighth pick in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two NFL Draft, the Atlantic sal Can select a Ukati
Speaker 1: nine backers st Yeah, marked him as a linebacker. Cowboys
Speaker 1: Twitter just cried a little bit. Yeah, they love him.
Speaker 1: That's one of Cowboys social media's favorite players right there.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about him? I honestly didn't watch
Speaker 1: em ketty nearly as much as everybody else did, But
Speaker 1: I mean the little bit that I saw, I mean,
Speaker 1: he flashes, he gets off, he uses his length. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't have any problems with him. I
Speaker 1: know there was a lot of buzz. A lot of
Speaker 1: people thought he could go back into the first I
Speaker 1: thought he was going to and really, well, I would
Speaker 1: love Brian. I would love to hear a scouting report
Speaker 1: because my radar just goes up for one of my
Speaker 1: favorite Jerry Jones is UM's gumby and that like he's
Speaker 1: got that sort of ability to like bend and that's
Speaker 1: I mean that stuff gets he drafted highly. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is this is interesting about this kid, because I mean
Speaker 1: I was I didn't see him as a back into
Speaker 1: the first round. Guy. I saw initial quickness. I saw
Speaker 1: he was a little when you watch the Alburn game,
Speaker 1: he was a little late in that game coming getting
Speaker 1: off the ball. Iowa and Ohio State, he was a
Speaker 1: lot better. He was able to create pressure with inside rush,
Speaker 1: which was time was pretty good. He relies on his
Speaker 1: quickness to win more than he does having moves. There
Speaker 1: are snaps you see him close to finishing, but then
Speaker 1: it gets a step late, and I think his length
Speaker 1: really helps him in the running him on film, he
Speaker 1: appears to be really long limbed and able to hold
Speaker 1: the blocker in place. I thought he could get rid
Speaker 1: of that blocker a little bit quicker and the blocker
Speaker 1: was able to tie him up some. So I had
Speaker 1: some concern about his balance. There were snaps where he
Speaker 1: was playing on the move and wound up on the ground.
Speaker 1: I thought he needed to do a better job of
Speaker 1: playing on his feet. But that's kind of what I
Speaker 1: think about the player. And looking at the board right now,
Speaker 1: just recapping some of the most recent picks off the board. Here.
Speaker 1: In the early parts of the second round, Logan Hall,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle from Houston, started to night Christian Watson, wide
Speaker 1: receiver from North Dakota goes to the Packers. At thirty
Speaker 1: four to thirty five, Roger McCreery corner from Auburn, Brece Hall,
Speaker 1: the running back from Iowa State, goes to the Jets.
Speaker 1: At thirty six, the Texans take Jalen Petrie from Baylor,
Speaker 1: and then most recently, Arnold Ebba Katie ed Rusher from
Speaker 1: Penn State goes to the Falcons. The Chicago Bears are
Speaker 1: on the clock, followed by back to back Seattle Seahawks picks.
Speaker 1: We're gonna step aside on the one HI five three
Speaker 1: the fans side, and we'll be right back on one
Speaker 1: O five three the fan Dallas Cowboys dot Com coverage
Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft, and here we go again on
Speaker 1: the internet side of things actually go anywhere we are
Speaker 1: right here. We were to remote at bar today and
Speaker 1: a Bears fan came up and asked me who they pick.
Speaker 1: I was kind of thinking about a receiver or an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman here. I would hope that. I think if
Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys right now, you're hoping as few receivers
Speaker 1: go as possible, and so that would not be fun.
Speaker 1: Let's look at receivers that are that are on the board.
Speaker 1: With that being said, because you've got George Pickens from
Speaker 1: Georgia still there, David Bell from Purdue, Jalen Toilber, who
Speaker 1: we'd mentioned as a fantastic option at or at least
Speaker 1: one that the Cowboys have had their eye on moving
Speaker 1: early for Bell, I don't think that I'm right through
Speaker 1: with you. I'm just naming names. And then you've got
Speaker 1: Sky More from Western Michigan, Wandel Robinson Kentucky, Christian Watson
Speaker 1: off the board. So they've got plenty of guy pears
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. Yeah, whether it's the Bearcats or the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Brian just loves Cincinnati. True, but I hate the chili,
Speaker 1: the favoritas, like love sauce Gardener, I love the Bengals,
Speaker 1: and there he just loves Cincinnati. You should, you should
Speaker 1: just go. Cincinnati chili is freaking delicious. I don't care
Speaker 1: what you say. You're just a homer though you no.
Speaker 1: I ate Cincinnati chili. Year that's more about his media dad,
Speaker 1: Todd Archer. What's not to like about noodles, chili and cheese. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's incredible. My dad grew up in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: so he made that for us ball throughout our childhood,
Speaker 1: so you're scarred right now. It doesn't bug me when
Speaker 1: does Nakobe Dean. That's what I was thinking right now
Speaker 1: after after I was thinking a bowl of chili, and
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, my stomach is turning right now
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Man, my stomach is also turning thinking
Speaker 1: about Nakobe Dean. And you know, and what's pro? That's
Speaker 1: pro radio. I I reached out to people about him.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought, I was thinking, Man, is this
Speaker 1: guy beat up? Is he banged up? Is he is
Speaker 1: there a problematically? You know, Bobby, I know you and
Speaker 1: I were trying to run the step down. Guys are saying, no,
Speaker 1: he's a beat up guy, but they're also worried about
Speaker 1: the fact he's a five eleven guy. So maybe that
Speaker 1: doesn't help. You're a five eleven guy who has questionable
Speaker 1: speed and you're beat up guy. That's tough. Yes, they're
Speaker 1: saying a question speed about that? I mean, I can't
Speaker 1: does the tape look like questionable speed? He never ran right,
Speaker 1: But it's not the case, is it. He's just so
Speaker 1: instinctual that the speed just seems natural, and so so
Speaker 1: it doesn't stand out because you're not seeing him out
Speaker 1: of position and need him catch up. By the way,
Speaker 1: he did not run Brian. So yeah, you don't have
Speaker 1: the numbers on it, but you look at the draft
Speaker 1: and that's the back Here on one five three the
Speaker 1: fan Dallas Cowboys dot Com alongside Brian brought us Bobby
Speaker 1: Belt David Hellman. I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us.
Speaker 1: We're day two of the twenty twenty two NFL Draft
Speaker 1: and we're broadcasting live from the Star in Frisco Ford Center.
Speaker 1: At the Star, we're talking about the potentials for the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears and pick number thirty nine. They are flying
Speaker 1: in hot and heavy in Las Vegas, and we have
Speaker 1: had plenty of picks already. Here's what Chicago could do
Speaker 1: at thirty nine overall, Sebastian Man all right, Bears plays
Speaker 1: with the thirty nine pick in the twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Chicago Bears select dB from Washington Kyler Gordon
Speaker 1: Cowboys like to Bobby and I heard this independently. Bobby
Speaker 1: and I talked to a lot of the same people,
Speaker 1: but like McDuffie, got all of the hype over at Washington.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people think this guy will wind
Speaker 1: up being the better player. Yeah, and that was that
Speaker 1: wasn't just I mean, we talked to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you know, surrounding the Cowboys and everything else. That's conversation
Speaker 1: from a lot of people around, Like, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people who thought Kyler Gordon was a better
Speaker 1: player than Trent mcduffee. I'm surprised he didn't go in
Speaker 1: the first What I kept hearing is Trent mcduffey's a
Speaker 1: better player today, Kyler Gordon will be a better player
Speaker 1: in two years. It's it's kind of like the discussion
Speaker 1: about like the type of offensive lineman that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were looking at yesterday, but like that these are guys
Speaker 1: who can come in and play right away, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's Tyler Smith. That guy maybe not, but Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: maybe the guy with the ceiling that that's an all
Speaker 1: pro offensive line. And so, I mean, it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of the similar question. And Kyler Gordon, she he was
Speaker 1: in the green room, so he was waiting this one out.
Speaker 1: He was in the green room, and that's usually an
Speaker 1: indication from the league that they think you're going in
Speaker 1: the first round. My man has Okay, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. So and the Bears. Listen,
Speaker 1: let me say this about the Bears real quick. Bears
Speaker 1: didn't have a first round pick, right, Nope, send it away.
Speaker 1: They wait all the way here to thirty nine for
Speaker 1: their chance to pick. They might have got a first
Speaker 1: round guy at a cornerback at thirty nine. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you think about I mean seriously, I mean sometimes you
Speaker 1: think about getting rid of your first round picks and
Speaker 1: you and you almost have to be a little fortunate
Speaker 1: that that that the draft got smile on you. In
Speaker 1: this case, they just drafted my fourth best corner off
Speaker 1: the board. Look, look in a draft that we talk about,
Speaker 1: and that's not to just totally bring back to Cowboys,
Speaker 1: but in a draft where we talk about and a draft,
Speaker 1: in a draft where we talk about how thin it
Speaker 1: is at the top and there's this and that, I
Speaker 1: think that those are the type of players you want
Speaker 1: to find. Are the potential lottery tech. It's where it's like,
Speaker 1: give me the guy with the ceiling that's an all
Speaker 1: pro and a thin draft. And so while Kyler Gordon,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't think he's completely ready to stand in
Speaker 1: and be a starter or like people complaining about with
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith or other people, Like, you're talking about a
Speaker 1: guy who his ceiling is higher in a draft that
Speaker 1: seems thin on all pro type of players. So I
Speaker 1: think that's a lottery ticket worth investing in. I think
Speaker 1: that's a really good pick for Chicago. I agree. I
Speaker 1: think Chicago's exceptionally happy with being able to go almost
Speaker 1: to the fortieth pick in this draft and snag a
Speaker 1: guy who will most likely be a starter day one
Speaker 1: and be somebody that that develops into a fantastic player
Speaker 1: in the NFC. Yeah, they're gonna need this guy to
Speaker 1: play the division that they play in. Now. Maybe you know,
Speaker 1: the Packers, like Along the Way and stuff, have lost
Speaker 1: some of that luster and things like that, but you
Speaker 1: look at you look at some of the other teams
Speaker 1: that have had to deal with I mean, to me,
Speaker 1: this is one of those guys that I mean, you
Speaker 1: can you can line him up at either corner and
Speaker 1: you know, and he played in the slot. I was
Speaker 1: watching the Stanford game and he was covering guys out
Speaker 1: of that. He plays a ton of off coverage. So
Speaker 1: you watch him kind of turn and then but is
Speaker 1: able to react the way it kind of like he
Speaker 1: kind of bails out, but he he's very quick footed.
Speaker 1: He could break on the ball. He can read plant
Speaker 1: go when he sees the route developing. I was super, super,
Speaker 1: super impressed by the way this this kid played for
Speaker 1: for Washington, and I can understand why scouts were saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: you need to watch the other kid. You know. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: what about this McDuffie. No, No, you need to watch
Speaker 1: the Gordon kid. You need to watch Gordon. You know,
Speaker 1: six foods a kid, right, there's probably gonna play a
Speaker 1: long time. I'm not saying they're wrong, and he is
Speaker 1: a good player, but scouts love to be like, you know,
Speaker 1: you're watching the wrong guy. Like scouts, I would never
Speaker 1: tell you that it's not this guy. Is that. I
Speaker 1: love the the quick footed note from Brian there though,
Speaker 1: because they just on NFL Network threw up the video
Speaker 1: of Kyler Gordon being a proficient ballet dancer as a child.
Speaker 1: They had home video of him doing ballet as a kid,
Speaker 1: so I mean he must sometimes work some times. The
Speaker 1: draft gods smile on you. You know, you're waiting all
Speaker 1: day and you're watching the league get better and you're
Speaker 1: just sitting there just grinding your teeth and then a
Speaker 1: player like that comes. Yeah, it's good for them. So
Speaker 1: the Seahawks pick here. Back to back, they go forty
Speaker 1: forty one. Then it's the Colts and the Giants and
Speaker 1: the Browns. The Colts get to pick a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're finally there Seattle up here at the top of
Speaker 1: the draft. Is this something that I mean? Of course
Speaker 1: they picked it what nine at last night and they
Speaker 1: went and got a Charles Cross out of Mississippi State?
Speaker 1: Who could they look at here? Or could they trade
Speaker 1: out of it? They could, they could trade out. But
Speaker 1: I mean the talk last night when they were in
Speaker 1: the top ten was they were looking for offensive line
Speaker 1: and edge. They're not. They're not trade out of this one, no, right,
Speaker 1: But I mean at edge here, I would guess who. So,
Speaker 1: who's one left? Um My j Sanders, David A Jabo
Speaker 1: A Jabo. That would be just like John to take
Speaker 1: a guy that they're gonna play this year. Who. I
Speaker 1: love this. I love it every time. Jack he's right
Speaker 1: there in the middle. If you guys are what is
Speaker 1: the area is? He's like waving his hand, Drake Drake Jackson,
Speaker 1: could Drake Jackson Bonito boy, a mafe, maybe a mofe
Speaker 1: goes here, So we're not buying the uh the media
Speaker 1: narrative that it'll be a QB they're gonna roll, could
Speaker 1: be the next one, could be the next one. You're right?
Speaker 1: Why though, you got Drew Lock? Yeah, yeah, you're set,
Speaker 1: You're good? Was that tongue in cheek? I couldn't really tell? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is he l Seahawks select? Here you go? Linebacker Honnesota
Speaker 1: wrote the boat boy a mafe six foot three, two
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds. His fifteen sacks this past season
Speaker 1: ranked ninth in program history. I mean he came off
Speaker 1: of a This was a guy who, at least toward
Speaker 1: the back end of the draft process, Brian looked like
Speaker 1: he could have snuck into round one. But the fact
Speaker 1: that he goes here in the top forty not surprising
Speaker 1: at all. I kind of asked, Okay, this is this
Speaker 1: is my last line of my draft, of my draft
Speaker 1: notes and I and I don't know why I said this,
Speaker 1: but I must have done this guy early enough, I said,
Speaker 1: don't know why folks aren't talking about him more seriously,
Speaker 1: I type that, and so but he usually plays the
Speaker 1: open side or the weak side, which is with an
Speaker 1: open side where you can kind of rush off that tackle.
Speaker 1: There's not really a tight end to your side on film.
Speaker 1: This guy can really really run and I think he
Speaker 1: plays with a burst. I think he's got a close
Speaker 1: I think he's able to chase the ball with the
Speaker 1: best of him. His first step is super impressive when
Speaker 1: he gets off the ball to make things happen. Good
Speaker 1: finisher tackler. He makes a ton of plays when he
Speaker 1: has to run the ball from the back side, run
Speaker 1: the ball down. I think he can really really cover
Speaker 1: some ground. The redirection stuff is really really good. So
Speaker 1: I saw him also when the ball came to his side,
Speaker 1: he'd string out the play, string out the play and
Speaker 1: then be able to make the stop right there. But
Speaker 1: he plays in a two point stance. Yeah, he stands
Speaker 1: up when he plays so but he doesn't let those
Speaker 1: blockers get on top of him that way. So I
Speaker 1: was pretty impressed by the way that he played from
Speaker 1: watching Ohio State, Michigan and per Due four five three,
Speaker 1: and he had a great split at one five. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: you talk about that raw talent, that athleticism, and by
Speaker 1: the way, the Seattle pick is in it again. For
Speaker 1: forty one, so they didn't trade out. They went back
Speaker 1: to back here in the early second round. We'll see
Speaker 1: what their pick is coming up here in a second,
Speaker 1: but it's talking about boy a Mofe their selection at forty.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dave, you saw him at Senior Bowl week
Speaker 1: and he looked like a guy that once again very
Speaker 1: quick off the edge, and he shows a little bit
Speaker 1: of that. First here's the pick. Does Seattle Seahawks select
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker running back? He can't help himself. John can't
Speaker 1: help himself. John cannot help himself taking running backs. He can't.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a drug. He can't help himself. Seriously,
Speaker 1: they just resigned her shot Penny, didn't they the first
Speaker 1: that this guy's a hell of a player. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, he can't. John can't help himself. A fitch
Speaker 1: a Pete carrolls like, dude, John, see that running back
Speaker 1: from Michigan States up on that board, right, Guys up
Speaker 1: in Seattle are like, beat these two rocks together. We're
Speaker 1: playing caveman ball on my way. My favorite thing in
Speaker 1: the world help himself is when somebody makes a pick
Speaker 1: in the draft and it's somebody Brian knows making the pick,
Speaker 1: because then it's it's much more like, John, what are you?
Speaker 1: What do you like? It just becomes so much more personal,
Speaker 1: whether it's a good or bad pick for him. No,
Speaker 1: it's funny like when I first met Brian, I mean no, no,
Speaker 1: definitely not. You've always been a jerk. Yeah. When I
Speaker 1: first met Brian, I was like, yeah, whatever, bro, like
Speaker 1: maybe you've met John Schneider. But then like we go
Speaker 1: up to Indianapolis and whatever, and Schneider's like, dude, what's
Speaker 1: going on. It's like, oh, my crap, all these stories
Speaker 1: are true. This is incredible. So so you what you're
Speaker 1: telling me is when you first got here, you were
Speaker 1: a Twitter troll. Yeah, Bro, it's like, you know, John Schneider.
Speaker 1: I think it was just more like in my head,
Speaker 1: you can't believe it's my actually my intern. Yeah no, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're sitting like I'm like, we're sharing a moldy office together,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, the GM of the Seahawks slept
Speaker 1: on your couch, ver bro. Sure. John John was one
Speaker 1: of those guys that, like when he first started in
Speaker 1: the league, Epp in Green Bay, like the Scouts would
Speaker 1: take him out drinking and like he and he would
Speaker 1: be like hammered and he couldn't function the next day,
Speaker 1: and like I'm going you go out with the scouts again.
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, and I go, dude, those are professional drinkers.
Speaker 1: Don't mess with those guys. J Brian. That's my three
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars intern right there. And he's
Speaker 1: making a running back pick with Kenneth wat Man can't
Speaker 1: help him. He's a good player. Kenneth Walker. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody else has seen him. He's
Speaker 1: a really good player. He was. He was a Heisman
Speaker 1: front runner at one point during the season. He's a
Speaker 1: good player. It's just funny that the Seahawks are bound
Speaker 1: and determined to play football like it's nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 1: Which back was he for you too? He was number two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was number two? Sure was? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: a compact stout runner, oppressive start, stop, quickness, burst, plenty
Speaker 1: of snaps who appeared to be trapped, and then he
Speaker 1: finds the edge around the corner. He's got a feel
Speaker 1: for how to get the ball in the end zone too.
Speaker 1: He will not be denied when it comes to scoring
Speaker 1: them touchdowns. Maybe John knew when he was doing after
Speaker 1: off to read my notes here, But great job of
Speaker 1: a really avoiding contact initially. Then he's got that lower
Speaker 1: that lower, that shoulder, and he's willing just to hammer
Speaker 1: people with that shoulder. And I wouldn't always call him
Speaker 1: though a finisher when it goes open field long, but
Speaker 1: because there were a couple of runs where he got
Speaker 1: brought down from behind. But he can make a tackle
Speaker 1: miss and stuff like that, so I didn't see any
Speaker 1: huge issues, uh, you know, about catching the football or
Speaker 1: anything like that with the skin Doke Walker Award winner.
Speaker 1: He also won the Walter Camp Player of the Year
Speaker 1: as well, And you mentioned some of that quickness on
Speaker 1: the back end. I was surprised when he ran a
Speaker 1: four three eight forty I mean time three. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you don't see it on tape, you don't. They don't
Speaker 1: really see you see him get fetched a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I'm like, WHOA, some of those big ten schools like
Speaker 1: the weather's crap and the grass is real deep. The
Speaker 1: grass looks like it's shin. Sound like me, It's true,
Speaker 1: sound like me? So you sound like me? What I
Speaker 1: used to say, You know, it looks like you gotta do.
Speaker 1: You get tired playing down there at Florida, the swamp,
Speaker 1: the humidity steps you turn on like Purdue Michigan stad.
Speaker 1: The grass is like two feet deep here, just like
Speaker 1: it looks like it's about twenty four degrees. The sun
Speaker 1: hasn't been out all day rain for a while. Everybody's
Speaker 1: running in Shinnhai grass. It's like, and that's every stadium
Speaker 1: in the Big ten. It's it's honestly, it's so interesting
Speaker 1: because he's he was a big ten runner, like he
Speaker 1: was like he had that power that two eleven. John
Speaker 1: will be able to look at him in the eyes.
Speaker 1: Be nice to that man, John. John and I go
Speaker 1: way back. They take a great pick. They take Charles Cross,
Speaker 1: his favorite player. He goes, well, John must not have
Speaker 1: been in the room. It's like, come on, believe it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though. The Cross is my favorite player.
Speaker 1: But Walker's good too. I mean, my man's had my
Speaker 1: man's had a good draft. I have to admit he's
Speaker 1: had a good draft. I just love double like they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: by Russell Wilson. We'll get a tackle and a running
Speaker 1: back and we're just gonna ground. A trade is trade
Speaker 1: back again. Yeah, this was supposed to be the Colts.
Speaker 1: Looks like the Vikings have traded back up into the
Speaker 1: forty second slot, taking that Colts away. Colts don't get
Speaker 1: to make their pick after all, Brian, No, that's a shame.
Speaker 1: This the quarterback finally. Actually, it's funny you said that
Speaker 1: because Minnesota was linked to a quarterback at thirty four
Speaker 1: earlier today than they traded away. I wonder if it
Speaker 1: was Zimmer right about the Kellen Monk. You know, I
Speaker 1: thought we all agreed he was right about that before
Speaker 1: he even said it. Okay, Yeah, just wonder did not
Speaker 1: like that pick personally. Okay, So we're awaiting Minnesota's selection,
Speaker 1: by the way, that it will be Minnesota followed by
Speaker 1: the Giants. So NFC East back up on the clock
Speaker 1: here in a couple of minutes, as the Giants have
Speaker 1: also traded out of their picks twice already in this round.
Speaker 1: Then it's the Browns, the Ravens, and the Cowboys, still
Speaker 1: a little bit away from their first selection here in
Speaker 1: the second. By the way, we do have the compensation.
Speaker 1: So Minnesota receives the forty second pick and one twenty two.
Speaker 1: The Colts receive fifty three seventy seven in the third round,
Speaker 1: and then a sixth round pick as well. So that's
Speaker 1: the compensation for were the Vikings to get back up
Speaker 1: into this forty second selection. Are you guys surprised at
Speaker 1: the fact that that Malik Willis has lasted this long?
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about this quarterback class not necessarily
Speaker 1: being I have. I'm surprised, but I thought at least
Speaker 1: in the first ten picks of this second round he
Speaker 1: would at least be gone by then. I'm impressed he's
Speaker 1: not there. I'm I'm no, I'm just I'm impressed that
Speaker 1: the teams aren't reaching from quarterbacks. I'm impressed that the
Speaker 1: league is having patients and letting these flawed quarterbacks fall
Speaker 1: into more realistic draft ranges, because that's not that's we
Speaker 1: say this every year. We're like, well, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: a third round grade on him, but he'll go in
Speaker 1: the top eighteen because he's a quarterback. Like it happens
Speaker 1: all the time. YEA. So good for the league for
Speaker 1: showing some restraint. Man, there was so much smoke too
Speaker 1: about like Ritter, like oh, Ritters blowing people like so
Speaker 1: Ritters going in the front, like there was all that chatter.
Speaker 1: So my little, my little self serving game where I
Speaker 1: write down thirty two names, thirty of them are crossed off,
Speaker 1: not only two left for quarterbacks Willis and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: helper the hype. I'm gonna look. I wonder if Jermaine
Speaker 1: Johnson and Desmond Ritter have the same agent sold us
Speaker 1: all that they were going so much higher than they were.
Speaker 1: Here's the Vikings at forty two. This is crazy. We
Speaker 1: didn't have this many people when I played in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Rice Stadium. And you know, I gotta tell you, oh, no, Eddie,
Speaker 1: finding a Viking purple sport coat is not easy, but
Speaker 1: I did it, and I hope you appreciate it. You
Speaker 1: know the significance of me being here was that fifty
Speaker 1: years ago I was drafted by the Minnesota Vikings. Cornell,
Speaker 1: we know where you're thinking. I looked pretty good. I
Speaker 1: just threw my pinch, but but it was nothing like this.
Speaker 1: I a partner. You got fixed to me. This reminds
Speaker 1: me of what I'm gonna be like in a few years.
Speaker 1: And the general manager called and told me, congratulations, Son,
Speaker 1: You've been drafted by the Minnesota Vikings. Residency and now
Speaker 1: somebody's like waiting for that same teams I wanted to
Speaker 1: be drafted by. Start playing that Oscar music. In fact,
Speaker 1: there was only one team that I wanted to be
Speaker 1: drafted by. Less Oh my goodness, but I'm not good
Speaker 1: man you Green Bay. Well that's some ret meat right there.
Speaker 1: I see those cheese heads over there. Oh my gosh. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it was a great experience. I got to play in
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls. Now fifty years later, here I am
Speaker 1: in front of all you folks. This is really exciting
Speaker 1: for me. So as a x former Minnesota Viking my word,
Speaker 1: and former head coach at Blue Mountain State. Wow, come on,
Speaker 1: we got to ask some goat fans out there. We
Speaker 1: have NFL draft fans. Anyway, he's the coaching him. You
Speaker 1: need to make somebody she come up to the use.
Speaker 1: Somebody came up and tell him make the pick, come
Speaker 1: the hook, not even any playoff music. Just read it.
Speaker 1: Just read it now, he's still not reading it. With
Speaker 1: the forty second pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings select defensive back Andrew Booth from Clemson.
Speaker 1: Poor Andrew Booth had to wait all this time to
Speaker 1: get picked, and then when he gets picked, that's the announcement.
Speaker 1: And when Drew Pearson did it, it was awesome, like
Speaker 1: that was fun. There was momentum. Yeah, yeah, there were
Speaker 1: some entertainment value to it. And Drew didn't go. I
Speaker 1: initially thought about signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers as an
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. All right, we're gonna break down, Andrew Booth.
Speaker 1: We're gonna continue on. Hopefully we'll get Day three of
Speaker 1: the draft your next We're gonna make you make up
Speaker 1: some time. We'll be right back with twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: NFL Draft coverage on one to five three the fan
Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Oh you're going, and we're
Speaker 1: back on this side of things. As Andrew Booth Junior
Speaker 1: the pick, I'm still reeling. I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Ed Marinara, what are we doing? That was seriously, that
Speaker 1: was next level. All right, let's talk about Andrew Booth.
Speaker 1: He deserves all the credit here of just going in
Speaker 1: the draft because it took that long to get there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was before we talk about Andrew Booth. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you about when I, uh the Vikings first, when
Speaker 1: when they asked me to come on the draft show. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was sitting there thinking like he was
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two when a twelve round draft at that time,
Speaker 1: Larry Brown would have been an undrafted free agent of TCU. Oh,
Speaker 1: here we go, the Giants are picking. Oh, this will
Speaker 1: be much quicker. Here's the Giant selection. That's right. Hopefully,
Speaker 1: let's go. Oh Larry with the forty third pick in
Speaker 1: the twenties twenty two NFL Draft, the New York Football
Speaker 1: Giant select one Deal Robinson, Kentucky fake Penthrow. I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ever really that interested in No, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think that's a fake penthrow for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They want a receiver. I don't think they would have
Speaker 1: taken him. Yeah, not here anyway. And I mean, by
Speaker 1: the way, drafting Wandell Robinson, that definitely sounds like the
Speaker 1: end of Kadarius Tony. Oh yeah, that's very similar role
Speaker 1: talking him slot guys right here in the second round.
Speaker 1: That means you're gonna be purgeing Tony soon? Would you
Speaker 1: make the call there? Would you at least go entertain
Speaker 1: that option? Tonious about him that people we're not really
Speaker 1: happy with him on something. I mean, you've heard it,
Speaker 1: like since he's been in league. I didn't hear a
Speaker 1: ton about time. I mean, I'd never dug in on
Speaker 1: Candarius Stone because I never thought he was really going
Speaker 1: to be anybody that was talked about. The KAPA set
Speaker 1: didn't care a lot about him. But I mean you
Speaker 1: keep hearing it now that you know, since he's been
Speaker 1: in the NFL. NFL Network says Wandell Robinson was called
Speaker 1: the Barry Sanders of youth football. Tyler Smith a big
Speaker 1: fan of Wandell Robinson. I'll tell you what though you
Speaker 1: watch him play at five eight and one seventy eight,
Speaker 1: I mean he is super super impressed if you really,
Speaker 1: if you ever have a chance to watch him play
Speaker 1: in that that Bowl game against against Iowa. He was
Speaker 1: out saying, you see the highlights right here. Though. He's explosive.
Speaker 1: When he gets up to field there he'll be able
Speaker 1: to track the ball right there. He catches it everything.
Speaker 1: He catches everything in his hands though. I mean, he
Speaker 1: is a could be a very special player. And here's
Speaker 1: the Giants. You know they're in that situation right now,
Speaker 1: here's the guys you're starting to have to compete against
Speaker 1: that guy can may be a handful to have to
Speaker 1: deal with again five eight one hundred seventy eight pounds.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that. You can, you know,
Speaker 1: like say, run him anywhere up to field. He's going
Speaker 1: to find ways to make plays, uh, you know, and
Speaker 1: make big plays for your chunk place. You look at
Speaker 1: some of the receivers that have come out of Kentucky
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and I mean Wandale Robinson
Speaker 1: transfer from Nebraska. He was recruited initially as an all
Speaker 1: purpose back and he made that switch into more of
Speaker 1: a one not even one trick, but just a singular
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But they used him in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: They used him in the receiving game, the return game,
Speaker 1: and like you said, he is just a pure possession receiver.
Speaker 1: He did some things better than all of those Kentucky
Speaker 1: receivers that we've seen over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: He's done it better than they did even at the
Speaker 1: same sort of role that they've had throughout their careers
Speaker 1: as well. Sorry if y'all already said this, I ducked
Speaker 1: out for a second. Feel feel a little early for
Speaker 1: a five eight one seventy five pound wide receiver. It
Speaker 1: might be a little bit feel a little early to me.
Speaker 1: You think, so this is this is so, But I
Speaker 1: just think of two two out well from last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who I think is still waiting on like his first
Speaker 1: touch with their Hams. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just he I heard what y'all were saying, and I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's a bad player, but he's definitely not well.
Speaker 1: I had him in the fourth round because again, I
Speaker 1: take all those small guys and put them all right there.
Speaker 1: I'm just biased by what I think the Cowboys thought processes.
Speaker 1: But this is a This was Cleveland's pick originally now
Speaker 1: belongs to the Texans, right, is that what we're looking
Speaker 1: at here? Yes, I believe that's the case. I don't
Speaker 1: think this was a part of the Deshaun I don't
Speaker 1: think it was either. This is something new because I'm
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Browns as they should be on
Speaker 1: the clock at forty four here, But looks like the
Speaker 1: Texans are back up there. What could this potentially be for?
Speaker 1: That's interesting? I mean, do you really think this could
Speaker 1: be a quarterback? This is Malik Willis territory or do
Speaker 1: you think that they believe in Davis Mills enough to
Speaker 1: give him another year. I'll see you what you know
Speaker 1: what you say that, And I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: married to Davis Mills, But do you do it as
Speaker 1: right now as maybe to see what you might have
Speaker 1: and then you go for for you know, if you're
Speaker 1: not good enough, next year, you draft another quarterback that
Speaker 1: you know. I'm just saying. I I think there would
Speaker 1: be tremendous value if they did take this guy right now.
Speaker 1: Willis Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I think this would be a
Speaker 1: I think this would be a big, big time, big
Speaker 1: time player for them if they went out and got
Speaker 1: Willis here. I think anybody who selects Willis Here is
Speaker 1: going to have a fantastic val I just the upsides
Speaker 1: of the player, I really I do. I'm I'm excited
Speaker 1: about when you he was one of the most exciting players.
Speaker 1: I used that word here twice. But when I when
Speaker 1: I watched him play, I was in all of how
Speaker 1: he was moving around and the way he makes throws
Speaker 1: and all the different platforms he avoids. I mean, there
Speaker 1: there's there's something to this cat's game when you watch
Speaker 1: him play. Really, now, we aren't starting to get into
Speaker 1: I mean, we're still a dozen picks away from the
Speaker 1: Cowboys here. When you're looking at the board and you're
Speaker 1: seeing what some of the potential could be for Dallas,
Speaker 1: does anything stick out to you? Any red blinking lights
Speaker 1: at the moment that are starting to fall. I'm just
Speaker 1: watching for I want to see if Tilburton Pickens get
Speaker 1: in their range. Those are the two I'm looking at
Speaker 1: right here. Do you think they would go for Pickens potentially? This? Okay? So,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I would love it. I would
Speaker 1: love it. I don't know that he'd be a private,
Speaker 1: but I mean, like if you get down to that
Speaker 1: pick and he's there, he may be somebody that's just
Speaker 1: high enough up on their board that they go, well,
Speaker 1: let's go. Also, yeah, similar to the Thibodeau conversation we
Speaker 1: had last night, like there are two different types of
Speaker 1: red flags, Like, right, is this a are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Like a bad guy red flag? Or like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: he falls asleep in meetings red flag. In the twenty
Speaker 1: two NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select John Mechi, receiver Alabama.
Speaker 1: All right, well their medical was better than everyone else's medical.
Speaker 1: There it is you know what, though, Again, if receivers
Speaker 1: are going to go off the board, take guys off
Speaker 1: the board. Who I don't know that the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: gonna take anyway. I don't think they would have, which
Speaker 1: could just be the run. Now we're gonna start to
Speaker 1: see in receivers, and I hope not still got a
Speaker 1: little bit of ways to go. We would like because
Speaker 1: we're talking about maybe like two, got two receivers here
Speaker 1: that need to get in your range in twelve packs.
Speaker 1: I love the thought process for Houston because it's like he's,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he's a hell of a player, and
Speaker 1: the Texans aren't trying to win anything right now anyway,
Speaker 1: who cares if he's not healthy for the first ninth
Speaker 1: or two of the season. Still got some of the
Speaker 1: names left at the top. I'm just looking over Dane's board.
Speaker 1: Some of the names he has left at the top.
Speaker 1: Sol Travis Jones has not gone, Ryman has not gone Skymore,
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter, Chiquon Brisker, he still hasn't gone safety from
Speaker 1: Penn State. Yeah, so, I mean there are a few
Speaker 1: names here that maybe there's enough value that you don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about your receiver let's talk about the
Speaker 1: receiver that just went just real quickly to get it
Speaker 1: out of the way playing down seven or down forty
Speaker 1: five from US now. But Brian, when you look at
Speaker 1: John Metchi, he's that prototypical Z receiver is kind of
Speaker 1: the way that I had him tabbed outside of the
Speaker 1: ACL tear. I mean, he is as sharp of of
Speaker 1: a runner and a route runner that you can potentially
Speaker 1: get out of college. Yeah, this kid's Canadian, by the way,
Speaker 1: and he went to high school in Maryland and he
Speaker 1: tours ACL in the SEC championship game against Georgia. He's
Speaker 1: a dynamic football player with a ball in his hands,
Speaker 1: and he's going to show you running back type skills.
Speaker 1: I would not say that his hands are completely reliable,
Speaker 1: but they're good enough. And I thought there were some
Speaker 1: snaps where he double caught some balls. He's got a
Speaker 1: unique ability to win off the line. The coaches like
Speaker 1: to use him in bunch formations and then they could
Speaker 1: scatter him. And what's interesting is the former Houston Texans
Speaker 1: head coach Bill O'Brien is the OC down there at Alabama.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of funny to see that the connections there.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know, in a ware route runner,
Speaker 1: he'll find space to get open. He continues to work
Speaker 1: until the ball comes this direction. There's plenty of apps
Speaker 1: where he was either dragging through the middle or standing
Speaker 1: wide open along the sidelines. He's got some receptions where
Speaker 1: the ball came to him on the back shoulder and
Speaker 1: he was able to make those those plays. So he's
Speaker 1: got to feel for how to get open to get
Speaker 1: in the end zone. He came up with a game
Speaker 1: winner against Auburn in the overtime game that I was
Speaker 1: able to watch, So he could be a little bit
Speaker 1: of a difficult cover. That's again pre knee injury. Well
Speaker 1: and not just the knee injury. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: cleared to play full up on high school, but he
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with an enlarged start in high school, and
Speaker 1: so I mean, I don't know if that's also a
Speaker 1: factor for anybody here or if they've got a different
Speaker 1: view of the medicals and stuff like that. So I
Speaker 1: mean there may be other complexities there with his medical evaluation.
Speaker 1: Is this what has Baltimore done? Is this one of
Speaker 1: our receiver risks? Baltimore has done us so much great stuff,
Speaker 1: And yes, it probably is definitely is if they just
Speaker 1: got rid of Hollywood, they have the Minnesota kid from
Speaker 1: last year, Bateman sky Moore could be then they draft
Speaker 1: all those small SMU kid and then they texted yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, I mean those were late round like pro
Speaker 1: pro the third round. I mean, I hear you. Proche
Speaker 1: has basically just been a special teamer, Like I mean
Speaker 1: he's not you know, but I mean if you just
Speaker 1: moved on from guy like Hollywood Brown, not that like
Speaker 1: sky More shoot the same quite Speedster or whatever. But
Speaker 1: DuVernay and Proche would be starters if the season started today.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think receiver is a big need here. Okay,
Speaker 1: if they picked Skyboar here is it is it gonna
Speaker 1: be one of those things you're gonna say they it's
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. I mean, are you going
Speaker 1: to give them credit because we always like to give
Speaker 1: her trading Hollywood Brown. Yeah, like with the big picture
Speaker 1: in mind here, maybe yeah. I always love the way
Speaker 1: the Ravens shraft with what the Ravens have done this weekend.
Speaker 1: They got rid of a receiver they didn't want to pay.
Speaker 1: They made two first round picks. They got two guys
Speaker 1: that everybody universally loves. They've got six picks in the
Speaker 1: fourth and if if this is a receiver, they could
Speaker 1: add a starter caliber receiver to the roster right here
Speaker 1: at pick forty five. Yeah, I mean, I mean, if
Speaker 1: they're gonna add a receiver Kevin that Hollywood Brown want
Speaker 1: it out, would that be the type of receiver that
Speaker 1: they'd want to add as one like him? Here's the
Speaker 1: selection for the Ravens at forty five in the two
Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select David Ojabo.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I can say this now that he's off
Speaker 1: the board. I was hearing murmurs that there was some
Speaker 1: there were some legs that the Cowboys were decently interested
Speaker 1: in David a job. I think if he had fallen
Speaker 1: all that way, they would have at least considered it.
Speaker 1: He was on the list. I wouldn't say he would
Speaker 1: be the pick necessarily, but he was on that list.
Speaker 1: The torn achilles at pro day is what's going to
Speaker 1: stick around with Ojabo during this draft process. But overall,
Speaker 1: Brian a phenomenal edge rusher and somebody that tore up
Speaker 1: the Big ten alongside Aiden Hutchinson, who ended up being
Speaker 1: the number two overall pick. Yeah, there's times when you
Speaker 1: watch this kid he actually looks to rush in the
Speaker 1: passers and the the guy that went way ahead of him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know when and seriously, and I was super super impressed,
Speaker 1: like because this guy, I mean he really he kind
Speaker 1: of plays as a stand up linebacker defensive end. I mean,
Speaker 1: for a guy that doesn't have a lot of football experience,
Speaker 1: he does a really good job of playing with the
Speaker 1: knowledge that he does have. I think he's a slippery rusher.
Speaker 1: He's got that start stop quickness with the ability to
Speaker 1: change directions. He's gonna make things happen with that first
Speaker 1: step he's gonna gain direction that he's gonna gain ground.
Speaker 1: And when that first couple of steps and then he
Speaker 1: puts a ton of pressure on the blockers, those are
Speaker 1: the kinds of guys that you know, those guys are
Speaker 1: reaching format out of their stands. And he doesn't give
Speaker 1: you much of that hitting surface, nor does he let
Speaker 1: him get you get you his hands on him. So
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't stop to rush the minute he
Speaker 1: feels the tackle. All balance, he's working around the corner.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if he doesn't get hurt on a pro
Speaker 1: day there in Ann Arbor, we'd have been talking about
Speaker 1: this guy probably a lot earlier. I mean, he's the
Speaker 1: modern day edge rusher with these quarterbacks that the game's
Speaker 1: all about, like quick release and getting the ball out fast,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's able to get around that corner
Speaker 1: fast and close quickly. And so I mean, those are
Speaker 1: the aspects of David Ojabo that make him really intrigue.
Speaker 1: And I think in a league where it's gonna be
Speaker 1: tougher to get sacks, if you don't have some of
Speaker 1: the traits that I think he does, then you know,
Speaker 1: that's what I think makes him so intriguing. Which also
Speaker 1: I just thought of that you've got, you know, Ojabo,
Speaker 1: if he pans out across from Oway, that's a pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: Already looks spling to pass rushers. Yeah, I think we're
Speaker 1: moving inside of ten picks until Dallas is on the clock.
Speaker 1: Keegan Michael Key the Detroit Lions at forty six. With
Speaker 1: the forty six picks in the two thousand and twenty
Speaker 1: two NFL drafts, the Detroit Lions. Josh Pascal defensive University
Speaker 1: of Kentucky game back to back edge rushers, not necessarily
Speaker 1: the same style edge rusher though, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a much smaller player than David Ojabo was just under
Speaker 1: six foot three, and then you've still got the two seventy.
Speaker 1: But he's still pretty light coming off of the edge
Speaker 1: out of Kentucky. Yeah. Man, But this guy, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, you could play him in a couple of
Speaker 1: different spots. I think he's got a feel for how
Speaker 1: to be around the ball. He'll make his share at
Speaker 1: tackles behind the line of scrimmage because of his ability
Speaker 1: to kind of knife through there and get behind the line.
Speaker 1: He's super quick, which allows him to beat blockers and
Speaker 1: finish the plays. Especially hard to handle what he's playing
Speaker 1: on the move. When he's when he's on that move,
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's they don't get in front of him.
Speaker 1: I mean that quickness. He's able to get up to field.
Speaker 1: He finds the ball, he can hit the gap, he
Speaker 1: can locate it. He's got awareness that when the ball
Speaker 1: is come in his direction, you'll see him stay at home.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get fooled on the boots and those waggles,
Speaker 1: the jet sweeps, the reverses, things like that. He doesn't
Speaker 1: give much ground in the running game and get hold
Speaker 1: up against blockers and get rid of these these players.
Speaker 1: I think he does a great job of playing with
Speaker 1: his hands too. I was a big fan of this
Speaker 1: kid when I was watching him play this season for Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Todd Archer just tweeted that Josh Pascal was a prime
Speaker 1: target for the Cowboys here in round two. That's while
Speaker 1: we were talking about leading up into that first pick
Speaker 1: that he was at least in the conversation as well.
Speaker 1: They're hunting edge rushing, well, not just hunting edge rushers,
Speaker 1: they're hunting I think this is a bigger for them.
Speaker 1: Of course, like I said about toughness, We've talked about
Speaker 1: this US a couple days, toughness culture. They want leadership traits,
Speaker 1: things like that. That's one of the big things I
Speaker 1: did hear about Pascal during the draft processes. People talked
Speaker 1: about what a like future like. It was. The talk
Speaker 1: was like, he's going to be a captain for a
Speaker 1: team relatively quickly during his time in the NFL. It's
Speaker 1: interesting to think about. It's all those kinds of off
Speaker 1: the field stuff that you're you don't necessarily here doing
Speaker 1: a draft process because Pascal does a lot of things
Speaker 1: well off of the edge Team All American second team
Speaker 1: on the All SEC was at the Senior Bowl. He
Speaker 1: did a lot of things well there. But now you
Speaker 1: start getting into and Dave, we had to cut you
Speaker 1: off with that last selection. I want to go back
Speaker 1: to what you were talking about, because you're getting into
Speaker 1: that ten picks within ten picks, and you still feel
Speaker 1: pretty good. I was about the list of names you
Speaker 1: have on the board. Yeah, it's it's ironic that that
Speaker 1: Todd just tweeted that about Pascal and I mean I
Speaker 1: had heard his name, But like the names that we
Speaker 1: really have circled, I don't feel like the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: lost a ton of guys that we came into this
Speaker 1: round thinking they were gonna get, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: of course, of course Jalen Petrie wasn't gonna fall that far.
Speaker 1: Of course Logan Hall wasn't gonna fall that far. But
Speaker 1: some of the other guys we've talked about are are
Speaker 1: hanging around, Like, I'm starting to feel optimistic that somebody
Speaker 1: we like is going to be available when they make
Speaker 1: this pick. Who are some names at the top of
Speaker 1: your list, Dave, I mean the guys we led the
Speaker 1: show with, Oh, I mean, first of all, how much
Speaker 1: further is na Kobe Dean gonna fall? And even if,
Speaker 1: even if the Cowboys don't love him the most, at
Speaker 1: some point does he become a value? We mentioned Jalen Tulbert. Um,
Speaker 1: who are some other guys that I think we should tut?
Speaker 1: George Pickens obviously is still hanging around. Um. Cameron Jurgens
Speaker 1: is a guy that they've brought in who's still there.
Speaker 1: I think this starts to make sense in this Ray
Speaker 1: think double dip. Maybe they could. Jurgens is more of
Speaker 1: a thought process at center, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean still you're double dipping resources at offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think if I was, if that was the case,
Speaker 1: I would take Raymond if if you double if you
Speaker 1: double dip often if you double dip offensive lineman, I've
Speaker 1: taken Raymond at tackle. He's still there. Uh, Drake Jackson
Speaker 1: is still there. Sam Williams is still there. Um. I
Speaker 1: feel oh, name a tight end. They're still there. The
Speaker 1: dray McBride the consensus best tight end. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's here. I know they liked Marvin Leal yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and they like look a big line. We
Speaker 1: keep hearing from them and it's every year, but it
Speaker 1: feels like it's ratcheted up recently, especially from Stephen Jones.
Speaker 1: Just to talk of positional flexibility, that was a bit
Speaker 1: when he got asked today, I want to fight through
Speaker 1: the fan about well, why not Linderbaum. It was like, look,
Speaker 1: we really liked the you know, the flexibility of this player.
Speaker 1: We don't want to necessarily be narrowed down to this.
Speaker 1: And so they spent a first round pick on a
Speaker 1: guy that they didn't clearly define his position, so no,
Speaker 1: and a guy who when he came on here last
Speaker 1: night he said, I'll play all five positions and so Leo.
Speaker 1: I know that's something they really like about Leal is
Speaker 1: that he has that flexibility from snap to snap, to
Speaker 1: play inside or outside or do whatever they need him to.
Speaker 1: And we think that they're focused on receivers that wouldn't
Speaker 1: be limited to one receiver, right like, And so the
Speaker 1: question there is, if he gets down there, do they
Speaker 1: think sky Moore is limited. I don't get the impression
Speaker 1: that they are interested in sky Moore at all. I
Speaker 1: don't I'm right there with you. I don't think they.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'd be in this conversation because I
Speaker 1: think probably, like we're talking about, I think is probably
Speaker 1: considered a slot player to that he could play outside.
Speaker 1: He can't. I think he could sure. Oh, which, as always,
Speaker 1: my opinion is irrelevant. I know they don't care what
Speaker 1: I agree. I'll say that too. Dave's opinion is irrelevant.
Speaker 1: I say that all the time. We'd love too. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: We love Dave's opinion. It just may not matter that much.
Speaker 1: That's okay, dumb guy who rubs his eyebrows too much.
Speaker 1: Every once in a while. Commanders are on the clock
Speaker 1: now at forty seven, followed by the Bears and the Saints.
Speaker 1: Here's the commanders. Stupid name Sea Commanders, I see yah.
Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Terrible name with the forty seven pick
Speaker 1: you twenty twenty two draft. The Washington Commander's elect for
Speaker 1: Darren met this Detackle Alabama. All right, okay, yeah, you
Speaker 1: liked him early on in the project. I still do. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that was a good Oh wow, yeah that was
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that when you start you start
Speaker 1: talking about division and things like that, and you know,
Speaker 1: big body guy, this guy. Now there's there's these guys
Speaker 1: that kind of this take up space and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: This guy is six four three ten and he plays
Speaker 1: like a much much bigger guy. He's a stout point
Speaker 1: of attack player. He could be super hard to move
Speaker 1: when one on one, the initial quickness, the surge he
Speaker 1: gets in the blocker quickly, he can disengage just as fast.
Speaker 1: He's powerful in the way he plays. He stays square
Speaker 1: along the line. He holds up against double teams, so
Speaker 1: he's not gonna lit blockers move him. I've seen him
Speaker 1: go to one knee and then pop back up in
Speaker 1: order to hold the blockers and then split him and
Speaker 1: then getting out a tackled. I mean, to balance the movement,
Speaker 1: he's going to chase the ball over the field. The
Speaker 1: redirection stuff. I mean, this guy has got a lot
Speaker 1: of things. Coaches will put lighter or quicker guys in
Speaker 1: his spot, But when he gets the opportunity to get
Speaker 1: some pass rush stuff, I think he's going to be really,
Speaker 1: really a brute force with his effort and when he's
Speaker 1: gonna be dapped to deal with there, what does this
Speaker 1: bring to the table? Dave from another divisional team having
Speaker 1: interior pressure, I just tweeted this. I mean, on top
Speaker 1: of that, like, hey, Welcome to the NFL, Tyler Smith.
Speaker 1: Like every team you're play twice a year has studs
Speaker 1: in the middle, But also, how many Bama dudes does
Speaker 1: Washington have up front at this point? All of them?
Speaker 1: Mathis I want to say they drafted Ryan Anderson. I
Speaker 1: don't know if. I don't know if they but they
Speaker 1: had Ryan Anderson. Is Landon Collins is not he was released, right,
Speaker 1: damn they have to settle for five Bama guys instead.
Speaker 1: Oh darn, oh darn. All Right, let's see who the
Speaker 1: Bears pick at forty eight. When we come back, it's
Speaker 1: the Bears, Saints, Chiefs. It's the twenty twenty two NFL
Speaker 1: Draft on one oh five three the Fan and Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com back here on the Internet side of things,
Speaker 1: as the Bears are on the clock at pick number
Speaker 1: forty eight. Then it's the Saints and the Chiefs rounding
Speaker 1: out the top fifty, and then we really start getting
Speaker 1: into the nitty gritty for the Cowboys, who once again
Speaker 1: picking at fifty six. Now within ten selections up until then.
Speaker 1: Glad you're with us on the internet side at the
Speaker 1: He's Bobby Belt, Brian brought us, David Helman I'm Kyle
Speaker 1: Yeomans and brought us you look at the Bears, they
Speaker 1: had a pretty solid pick earlier in the round. You
Speaker 1: really liked with Kyler Gordon. What could they maybe be
Speaker 1: looking at here? Yeah? I was like, I say, I
Speaker 1: was talking to that Bears guy. I wonder if it's
Speaker 1: about now. The value there at that corner was really great.
Speaker 1: But is there a skill? Guy? Is there a wide receiver?
Speaker 1: Is there? Yeah? Or is there a where is there
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman? You know? So those are the kinds
Speaker 1: of things I think that I would look at for
Speaker 1: the Bears. Get justin field some help. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I was kind of thinking too. So this could be
Speaker 1: a wide receiver potential here, maybe, I think so. I
Speaker 1: think they need some skill there, don't they on the outside?
Speaker 1: I mean a whole lot. Alan Robinson's now in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: They don't they need everything on offense? I wonder though,
Speaker 1: I mean, Chicago's oh line is pretty, but hey, hot Ones.
Speaker 1: I love that guy and he's in a Hester Jersey.
Speaker 1: That's great. Bear down, bear down with the pick. In
Speaker 1: the two twenty two NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select
Speaker 1: Jaquan Brisker defensive back and Penn Stain got they're having
Speaker 1: a decent draft right now. All right, so the Bears
Speaker 1: are just going secondary old schools. Well, they got our guy,
Speaker 1: our old buddies. There's the new head coach there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: has taking all these defensive cats is what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Tell me about Jaquon Brisker. He's a great player. He
Speaker 1: is a great player. Hold on, I gotta pull him
Speaker 1: up him again. I got too much stuff going on
Speaker 1: here in my life. Top fifty player for me. I'm
Speaker 1: this is right where I had him. I having at
Speaker 1: forty nine on my boarding. Yeah, this guy loves to
Speaker 1: be around the action. The ball tends to find him.
Speaker 1: He's physical, he loves to mix it up. He throws
Speaker 1: his body around without any proms. He'll wrap up as
Speaker 1: a tackler. I think a lot of times he'll just
Speaker 1: go for a big hit though too. I've seen the
Speaker 1: coach useman coverage and the red zone. He managed to
Speaker 1: hold his own. He had a game seeing an interception
Speaker 1: against Wisconsin. It was crazy. Ending there in Madtown. Is
Speaker 1: the best way he could play without much of them
Speaker 1: assignment and just let him roam around in the secondary.
Speaker 1: He's one of the smarter defensive players I've studied. He's
Speaker 1: really really quick to read the screen to be right
Speaker 1: on the spot. I love the way he attacks the ball.
Speaker 1: He's disruptive in everywhere everywhere he plays. I don't believe
Speaker 1: he's a liability deep because I observed him defending the ball.
Speaker 1: He just needs a little bit better feel for how
Speaker 1: to play it though down the field a little bit.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you hear about players during the process and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: scouts love this guy, or oh coaches love this guy,
Speaker 1: or whatever else. Coaches really like Chiquon Brisker. They think
Speaker 1: he's tough as hell. Pick number forty eight, the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears select Jaquon Brisker safety out of Penn State. Bobby,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the point you were
Speaker 1: just making, because I think it's a fantastic one. Brisker
Speaker 1: phenomenal player on the field, but off the field, coaches
Speaker 1: are going to really like him to establish a ulture
Speaker 1: up there. Yeah. Like I mean when we talk about
Speaker 1: you know, Brian talking about Kyler Gordon, where scouts to
Speaker 1: tell him like, hey, you really need to watch this guy.
Speaker 1: And there are certain players that are a scouts favorite
Speaker 1: or something that are a coach's favorite. And that's just
Speaker 1: something that I heard about Brisker during the process was
Speaker 1: that coaches really like him because it's there's the toughness
Speaker 1: and the competitiveness, and that's one of things. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: one of the things they just really came away with
Speaker 1: was like, this is a guy who's gonna like lay
Speaker 1: it all on the line. This is a tough, tough
Speaker 1: football player. Saints are on the clock now, Brian, just
Speaker 1: for the radio side of things, let's let's give another
Speaker 1: quick synopsis on Brisker and what he brings to the table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's talking about earlier with him, this
Speaker 1: kid is I mean he I think he needs to
Speaker 1: play on his own and he's able to kind of
Speaker 1: freelance a little bit. He can make some serious plays.
Speaker 1: You know, in the Wisconsin game, he was kind of
Speaker 1: roaming in the middle of the field and it was
Speaker 1: able to make the play that sealed the game for them.
Speaker 1: He's a wrap up tackler who go for the big hit.
Speaker 1: The coaches us him in coverage can talk about quite
Speaker 1: a bit. He's quick to read the screen to be
Speaker 1: in the right spot to loves to attack the ball.
Speaker 1: He's disruptive in the way he plays, and you know
Speaker 1: I love is the toughness, the anticipation, in the awareness
Speaker 1: he has as well. Seven teams remain in between the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and their next selection. It's the Saints at forty nine,
Speaker 1: then it's the Chiefs at fifty, the Eagles pick at
Speaker 1: fifty one, fifty two is the Steelers, fifty three, the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and then it's the Patriots and the Cardinals leading up
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys at pick number fifty six. I'm still
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good here, Dave. Even since we have that
Speaker 1: last conversation, I haven't seen a name jump off the
Speaker 1: board that necessarily. You know. What's funny is you're right, no,
Speaker 1: nothing has jumped off the board. But like now that
Speaker 1: we're inching closer, I'm starting to get a pit in
Speaker 1: my stomach, nervous just what if? What if? This? And
Speaker 1: it's how it happens all the time. If you've ever
Speaker 1: listened to us through the draft, like there's just a
Speaker 1: run where like three guys in a row that you
Speaker 1: love go off like bing bang boom, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, this great list of options you had looks
Speaker 1: kind of sparse. I was about to say like I
Speaker 1: need New Orleans or somebody. I need somebody to take
Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks, like somebody make a pick that
Speaker 1: I don't care about. Take both of them, get both
Speaker 1: of them, get Ridder and Willis out of here. Saints,
Speaker 1: get Carson Strong, Matt Correl. Just let's get a run
Speaker 1: on all of them. Quarterback. You look at some of
Speaker 1: the potentials here for quarterbacks, at least in the seven picks.
Speaker 1: Steelers they selected one, The Eagles they don't need one.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs, of course they don't need one. The Saints
Speaker 1: are really it out of these, Maybe the Vikings at
Speaker 1: fifty three if they felt like they wanted to find
Speaker 1: a guy for the future other than Kirk Cousins. But still,
Speaker 1: there's really only two potentials here for quarterback. And unless
Speaker 1: they really feel like they're in love with somebody, I
Speaker 1: would be surprised to see them. We're taking a look
Speaker 1: on the internet side of things with the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: war Room. A little bit of action in there. Nobody
Speaker 1: on the phone just yet. As we're inching within seven selections,
Speaker 1: the is in for New Orleans. Brian, As you're looking
Speaker 1: at your board, does anybody that the Cowboys have been
Speaker 1: linked to scare you in this spot. Anybody that you
Speaker 1: look at that could be a name that would pop
Speaker 1: up when they pick at fifty six that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: necessarily be excited about. No, I think I think that
Speaker 1: all the names. I mean, George Pickens as guys. I
Speaker 1: think Raymond the tackle, I would be happy with, Travis Jones,
Speaker 1: that defensive tackle from Connecticut. That's a big body guy.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, that might be a little something different.
Speaker 1: You know Skymore. I think Skymore can play inside or outside.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, see that as an issue. They
Speaker 1: probably do. I really do. Like Christian Harris, you know,
Speaker 1: the linebacker from Alabama as well. And think about the
Speaker 1: tight end. You know, maybe Trey McBride if is a
Speaker 1: guy that you might want to think about as well too.
Speaker 1: It's a long way to go to fifty six. Like
Speaker 1: I just said, this could be a minefield. But if
Speaker 1: they can have their pick of the best tight end
Speaker 1: in the class at fifty six, that wouldn't shock me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you have to consider that. I'm really hoping
Speaker 1: for a quarterback here. This is probably the number one
Speaker 1: chance you're gonna have as a potential quarterback. I've heard
Speaker 1: the Saints like Corral. It would be weird to see
Speaker 1: him go ahead of Willis and Ritter. But but it
Speaker 1: seems like there's a lot of smoke between the Saints
Speaker 1: and Matt Corral. They like to pick it a lot, right.
Speaker 1: That was if they put him, Yeah, he's gone. Of course,
Speaker 1: he was the twentieth overall pick to the Steelers. With
Speaker 1: New Orleans being here at forty nine, you'd have to
Speaker 1: think either they're going, I'm gonna go away from that,
Speaker 1: or they could maybe take one of those Saints. The
Speaker 1: Saints are just there on Brian's list of life. They
Speaker 1: don't care, like they really don't. They're gonna draft. They're
Speaker 1: gonna have all these quarterbacks in here at forty nine
Speaker 1: and draft a linebacker. And here's the pick. With the
Speaker 1: forty ninth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the New Saints selected Alante Taylor, defensive back Tennessee. Interesting
Speaker 1: a lineback, but it ain't quarterback. You had a nice
Speaker 1: reaction there, Bobby, Just because I'm interested in so Alonte Taylor,
Speaker 1: I know that the shine had come off him for
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Yeah, Dane had him as his
Speaker 1: number one twenty four player. I that was one of
Speaker 1: the names when I first started talking to people like
Speaker 1: last summer, as like, hey, who are some people I
Speaker 1: should just start like getting acquainted with and figuring out.
Speaker 1: Alante Taylor was one that they said the league was
Speaker 1: high on, and so it had kind of come off
Speaker 1: a little bit, and so I was thinking, Okay, I
Speaker 1: guess that, you know, things just didn't pan out for him.
Speaker 1: But I mean him going here and what pick was
Speaker 1: that that was top fifty. Yeah, he's a top fifty pick,
Speaker 1: and you know, I guess the league did like him.
Speaker 1: You know, it's really funny that you say that he
Speaker 1: was probably the fourth player I watched. He was really
Speaker 1: early on, and I was not very high on him.
Speaker 1: I was right there with you. I didn't think he
Speaker 1: necessarily impressed me a ton, But the more I watched
Speaker 1: him as I went along, I actually moved him up
Speaker 1: my board. I didn't move him up this high. I
Speaker 1: had him in the one hundreds, but I didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: I was right there with you. I kind of had
Speaker 1: to go the opposite direction along the way. You know
Speaker 1: what this goes back to, Brian, What's that This goes
Speaker 1: back to what you and I have discussed the last
Speaker 1: couple of days about the advice I got the things
Speaker 1: you hear in January and then Burns believe that more
Speaker 1: than the things you're here in the last three months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I should have just been more on top of it.
Speaker 1: I'd put Taylor out of my mind. And that was
Speaker 1: one of the first names I heard back in the summer.
Speaker 1: So should we just like call you think Derek Eagleton's listening, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we don't need to do this, like we can do
Speaker 1: a few episodes in January. No, no, no, okay, you're
Speaker 1: holding it on me as I'm just saying, y'all, are
Speaker 1: you That's not what I'm saying. I mean I was
Speaker 1: being facetious. You're not. You're bullying. I love your talking
Speaker 1: about this crap anyway. I thought you were serious for
Speaker 1: a second, and I think every draft fan out there
Speaker 1: would have just been in your mention so fast, because hey, look,
Speaker 1: there there was a lot of they love listening to
Speaker 1: Brian the late surge on Tyler Smith discussion and proved
Speaker 1: to be so. I mean that clearly wasn't something necessarily
Speaker 1: that was being talked. So, I mean, it's right in
Speaker 1: spots but you know it is that you know, I
Speaker 1: heard back in December they liked traylen Burke's and then
Speaker 1: as the process went along, there was a little bit
Speaker 1: of like a okay, do they they totally like it?
Speaker 1: And then I think at the end of the day
Speaker 1: they probably did like And that was another instance where
Speaker 1: it's like, maybe I should have believed what I heard earlier,
Speaker 1: and so I just I think I think that, and
Speaker 1: it's fair to you, like I think we do that.
Speaker 1: We do this too, like sometimes sure you have an opinion,
Speaker 1: you drift away from it, you kind of confer, and
Speaker 1: you come back to it. That doesn't mean that you
Speaker 1: didn't think about changing. Well, no, and mine is less
Speaker 1: about like the actual evaluation and going off of just
Speaker 1: more like what am I hearing from people, right, and
Speaker 1: what should I And so that's a little different for
Speaker 1: me in that spirit. Going back to the things I
Speaker 1: heard long ago, I really really think that at six
Speaker 1: picks Away here, I think I think the Cowboys would
Speaker 1: like to see Jaylen Tulbert reach them. It was that
Speaker 1: an early thing that was that was one of the
Speaker 1: that was one of the earlier names I had I
Speaker 1: had heard, like, hey, this is this is kind of
Speaker 1: a good player. He was on their radar and mobile.
Speaker 1: They had great communication with him down in the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: Of course, he played in that stadium throughout his collegiate career,
Speaker 1: playing in South Alabama. And then I mean, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things. It rears back up as soon as
Speaker 1: you get back closer, you start hearing those names pop
Speaker 1: out there. He could be a target. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: a quarterback, but Alonte Taylor wasn't on the Cowboys radar.
Speaker 1: Trade by the way, Patriots picking at fifty now instead
Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs. What did the Patriots one?
Speaker 1: It's not a quarterback. It's probably something in the fifth round.
Speaker 1: Cole Strange two point. No, I'm just kidding you that.
Speaker 1: Belichick's just like I'm going to take off. We were
Speaker 1: kind of talking about we were talking about guard and
Speaker 1: we were talking about linebacker for them yesterday. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: guard linebacker? Who are some of the names? Okay, do
Speaker 1: they think Ryman could play guard? They like Alabama? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was thinking Christian Harris is what I was thinking here,
Speaker 1: because to me, it was like, there's that really ship.
Speaker 1: He has a relationship between Belichick and Saban and they
Speaker 1: know all about those kids that way, so maybe that's
Speaker 1: maybe that's the route you're gonna go. I wanted to
Speaker 1: bring up linebackers. Guy, though, this brings up Ah by
Speaker 1: the way, they're showing Micah Parson's tweet on the NFL
Speaker 1: network side of things as crazy. I haven't seen na
Speaker 1: Kobe Dean taken yet, so he's still on the board
Speaker 1: here as well, and the linebacker position seemingly he's a
Speaker 1: good player. Then I'm gonna go with that. Go with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd and Quit Walker are the only two linebackers
Speaker 1: off the board right now. Is that surprising to you,
Speaker 1: Brian when you look at this linebacker class. We had
Speaker 1: talked about it as being a Yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: first round grade on Dean. Well, to me, it is
Speaker 1: a decent class. It's it's kind of like tight end.
Speaker 1: Like I think we all agreed that there was only
Speaker 1: a couple that would go in the first round. Could
Speaker 1: this be Chanal, you know, like that big kind of
Speaker 1: meaty wash Yeah, big inside, physical guy and guarantee you
Speaker 1: like to go back to that point. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you're wrong, Kyle, but like I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: hear like four or five of these names called before
Speaker 1: too long. You know, I'm just more of so saying
Speaker 1: I thought both Dean and Lloyd were locks to go
Speaker 1: in the first round. I thought Christian Harris would be
Speaker 1: right up at the top of the second quay walker.
Speaker 1: Of course he ended up going in the first round,
Speaker 1: so it maybe makes up for not having Dean in there.
Speaker 1: But then, yeah, you're right, I guess Channing Tendal, Leo'shanelle.
Speaker 1: I am surprised. I am surprised Dean is still here,
Speaker 1: but everyone else, I think we're moving into that range
Speaker 1: like your Christian Harris's, your Chanel's, your mumas like second,
Speaker 1: maybe even early third is like where I would have
Speaker 1: guessed those guys would go. So we're thinking maybe Christian
Speaker 1: Harris here. What about a Channing Tendal just because he's
Speaker 1: not he's still on the board. You talk about a
Speaker 1: big school like I've kind of heard that with Tendel,
Speaker 1: that that you might have to kind of hold his
Speaker 1: hand along the way during the game. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of those. Georgia's gonna say, so that's what people say
Speaker 1: about Pickens, and why well not maybe the brightest you
Speaker 1: know I didn't say I did. I mean, we're doing
Speaker 1: a s pretty damn stupid, you know, thing like Brian.
Speaker 1: If you like Brian, I'll just spell it out for you.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna try to tap dance around it. No,
Speaker 1: that's what I love, Dallas taking Here's Patriots today is
Speaker 1: world wish stay the anniversary has a wish that inspired
Speaker 1: the creation to make the wish, joining me today to
Speaker 1: announce it. No, he's gonna Patriots second round pick is
Speaker 1: Ben Leppert. I don't know, man, I've been told making
Speaker 1: Way says, which wants to be able to announce the
Speaker 1: draft pick for his hometown team, the Patriots six times.
Speaker 1: I have to battering overcoming Lakemia. I know this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a piece of cake. I want to think
Speaker 1: the NFL Robert Krow for making bitch wish come true. Okay, man,
Speaker 1: let's make your wish come true. Let's get the it's
Speaker 1: neat the Kansas City Chiefs have traded the fiftieth pick
Speaker 1: to the New England Patriots. With the fiftieth pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the six times Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champion New England Patriots select Tae Kwon shorton who receiving.
Speaker 1: No way, Wow, that one's big Belichick. Belichick is trolling.
Speaker 1: He is taking the Rams picks, you think, so he's
Speaker 1: going after all the guys the Rams are in position
Speaker 1: to take in the one hundreds. He's just like you
Speaker 1: want a super Bowl, all right? Four two, eight, forty.
Speaker 1: He had the best forty time at the combine. He
Speaker 1: had the best ten yards split at the combine with
Speaker 1: a one four one out of the block, Second team
Speaker 1: All Big twelve. Fantastic receiver. And I'll tell you he
Speaker 1: has a ton of fun to watch. I got a
Speaker 1: chance to watch a ton of him at Baylor throughout
Speaker 1: his career. He was really a starter for three four years.
Speaker 1: Is there, Brian, what did you see with Taekwon? No? No,
Speaker 1: this guy can really really run and you're talking about
Speaker 1: and I think when you watch teams play him, they're
Speaker 1: scared to death of him because they know we can run.
Speaker 1: But he's one of those guys though, Like I said,
Speaker 1: you know, with Baylor, it's funny with the wide receiver
Speaker 1: class that we've you know, over the years and stuff
Speaker 1: we've always hasn't panned out. It's tough, man, It really
Speaker 1: really has been tough. But this kid right here, like
Speaker 1: I said, the speed is legitimate. He is real thin though,
Speaker 1: and I will say this though he will he will
Speaker 1: scare cornerbacks that have to deal because they will have
Speaker 1: to play off on him or maybe even play up
Speaker 1: and not let him get going at all because he
Speaker 1: can really fly. This is a little out special runs
Speaker 1: four to get him, get him, bring on turning into
Speaker 1: the Raiders. When you win in six Super Bowls, you
Speaker 1: get a certain amount of latitude. But like the Patriots
Speaker 1: don't draft. Where did I see Daton had him as
Speaker 1: player one seventy six? What did I have him? You
Speaker 1: know what? I love this though, because eight this is
Speaker 1: it's all bearing to fruition, Like get like there was
Speaker 1: a lot of consensus about fifteen or sixteen prospects and
Speaker 1: the rest of this stuff is just a grab bag.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about a fake pen throws you're
Speaker 1: looking for a receiver. Actually, I mean again, these okay,
Speaker 1: these guys haven't been quarterbacks, but both of the last
Speaker 1: two picks are I'm just like, yeah, okay, that's all
Speaker 1: that's right. Please take that guy. There are I mean
Speaker 1: plenty of targets on the board here for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: moving into the latter parts of this second round. Now,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and step aside. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna outline who the Cowboys could be taking. At
Speaker 1: fifty six, the Eagles are on the clock, followed by
Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Vikings. You're listening to the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft on one oh five three The
Speaker 1: Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Back here on the
Speaker 1: internet side of things. Glad you're with us on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. He's Bobby Belt, Brian brought us, David Hellman,
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's Now we are five selections away and
Speaker 1: then the Cowboys get their chance. It's to pick their
Speaker 1: fewst rival Philadelphia Eagles, who have disgustingly had a great
Speaker 1: draft so far. Brian, are you aunt? Are you an
Speaker 1: old man like? No, I'm just it's nervous energy or
Speaker 1: I just needed They just need to stand up billion
Speaker 1: dollar companies here with bad chairs. I'm bringing Brian a
Speaker 1: chair to borrow. He was going to bring his own
Speaker 1: and he didn't. I just I should know better. When
Speaker 1: I used to draft, I had a damn good chair
Speaker 1: I would sit in it would because I picture Brian
Speaker 1: in the war room with like a lazy boy, just
Speaker 1: like he's got like ber in there. Did you ever
Speaker 1: got coup holders in you go out to training camp?
Speaker 1: I the one year I went was in nineteen and
Speaker 1: then it got kind of shut off. When Brian used
Speaker 1: to go to camp, he would bring like a leather
Speaker 1: office chair so he didn't have to sit in the craft.
Speaker 1: I almost did that this week. I mean this, this
Speaker 1: chair is not so bad, but that one. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to feel like we're six seven billion dollar county here,
Speaker 1: aren't we go to trade to trade with We're just
Speaker 1: not necessarily old. I'm old, that's the problem. We're good.
Speaker 1: But this, it would be one of these other chairs.
Speaker 1: These are different. It would be so brand. It would
Speaker 1: be so on brand standing up because he couldn't take
Speaker 1: the anticipation. No, who do you think they're gonna take?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I Philadelphia, worried about Philadelphia right now.
Speaker 1: I just was looking at Twitter. So I have the
Speaker 1: next two picks tipped for me. Yeah, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say them though, because I don't do. We're gonna hate
Speaker 1: him for like Philadelphia thumbs up or thumbs down. That's
Speaker 1: all we need. Oh I think, I think, do we
Speaker 1: get damaged? That's all I want to know. We're on
Speaker 1: the website, I think, I think. I think the next one,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would be like, ah, rats, and then one
Speaker 1: after that. You're gonna not be happy. Oh no, you
Speaker 1: want me to just tell you no? Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's stay along the way. Now Bobby's standing up.
Speaker 1: It's because I'm the apochondriac and I'm worried about blood
Speaker 1: clots from sitting. I'm not going to stand up. I
Speaker 1: ain't doing that. It kind of sounds I thought you
Speaker 1: were standing up there. I thought you were. It sounds great. Eagles, Steelers, Vikings, Patriots, Cardinals,
Speaker 1: and I would love here. In a couple of moments,
Speaker 1: when we get back on the radio side of things,
Speaker 1: I want to take a look inside the w war
Speaker 1: room because I'm hearing there's lots of conversations happening back
Speaker 1: and forth. So it should be something to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on because we're inching closer. Lots of things going on,
Speaker 1: and Cowboys could be picking soon. We are in the
Speaker 1: middle of the second round of the NFL Draft. David
Speaker 1: Hellman Brian brought us, Bobby belt On, Kyle Yeoman's glad
Speaker 1: you're with us on one O five three the Fan
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The Philadelphia Eagles are on
Speaker 1: the clock right now, and uh, disgustingly so, Brian. They've
Speaker 1: had a fantastic draft already, Jordan Davis in the first round,
Speaker 1: and then they turn around and now they've got this
Speaker 1: opportunity with fifty one. Oh yeah, and by the way,
Speaker 1: they add a guy like Adrian or what was it,
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown all the trade the better of the Browns. Yeah. Here,
Speaker 1: here's here's a bunch of folks. Here's the Eagles selection.
Speaker 1: With the fifty first pick in the twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: NFL drafts, the Philadelphia Eagles select Cam Jurgen's center, Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Why do you giggle? I giggle because that's one of
Speaker 1: those picks that the Cowboys were probably like, you know,
Speaker 1: they're probably, oh, we got the Cowboys, we took their guy.
Speaker 1: Maybe they did like they did with Goddard. Every time
Speaker 1: I heard his name, I would think of the real
Speaker 1: slim shady I'll tell you what. I'll say this though,
Speaker 1: I kind of I feel like though that the kid
Speaker 1: like that Dave. Yeah, I feel like the kid at UH.
Speaker 1: I feel like the kid at Kentucky fort right. I know,
Speaker 1: I say his name a lot. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a better player. I probably parm. I think param
Speaker 1: from Memphis is gonna be a better player than this guy.
Speaker 1: So anyway, good for them. I'm glad they did this.
Speaker 1: He was a thirty visit guy for the Cowboys. But
Speaker 1: I'm right there along with you. I don't necessarily think
Speaker 1: that they were really looking at him as a potential
Speaker 1: until maybe the third or fourth round. I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: think they were looking at him as a second round pick.
Speaker 1: It might have been, but at least from everything I've heard,
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily the case. Steeler's pick is in, by
Speaker 1: the way, But tell us why you think Cam Jurgen's
Speaker 1: is okay? Pick here at fifty one, Brian, Well, okay
Speaker 1: is the word it you're used, you know? I think
Speaker 1: with Jerry, let me see, I saw kind of a
Speaker 1: guy that played off balance. I thought he was an
Speaker 1: undersized center. He's six or three. He's three h three. Now.
Speaker 1: The other the undersized center at Iowa is like a
Speaker 1: two time All American. This guy is in the same conference.
Speaker 1: But he's not anywhere as near as good as that guy.
Speaker 1: There's nothing pretty or fluid about his game. He's kind
Speaker 1: of a rough and tumbled type of blocker. Body controlled questions.
Speaker 1: Here we go. It's welcome the fifty second pick and
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, Pittsburgh Steelers. So like
Speaker 1: George Pickens, Georgia, welcome to ballot. Sorry, Brian, gosh darn it,
Speaker 1: you had an actual pin throw that's for him, and
Speaker 1: it I mean it could be for the Cowboys. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing, like, what are we out of here?
Speaker 1: We broke. We've got three more picks before the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: so what are we looking at. I'm relieved he's gone
Speaker 1: because I don't think that Dallas would have taken him,
Speaker 1: and then we would be you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: walk people off the legs. We hate good players here.
Speaker 1: By the way. You know, you said you said you
Speaker 1: don't think we're talking about criminal issues with George Pickens.
Speaker 1: I said, I wasn't sure. I didn't get an rappaport rewards.
Speaker 1: He was cited for not wearing a seat belt last
Speaker 1: week when he got into a car. Oh no, so
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe don't be so quick. To my goodness,
Speaker 1: I love you, Dave. You know that getting out of
Speaker 1: hand a little bit. George Pickens fantastic player. Bro Let
Speaker 1: me finish up with Cam Yeah, if I was quick, yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, and this guy there's good job is
Speaker 1: staying on his man. But there's snaps where he will
Speaker 1: get overpowered. And he got adult some in the Oklahoma game.
Speaker 1: You watched him play against those guys and coaches all
Speaker 1: ask him to pull get out in space, lead the run.
Speaker 1: Plays a little hurky jerky when it comes to getting
Speaker 1: that done. He does have a mean side to him.
Speaker 1: He likes to bully his a pony. He's not afraid
Speaker 1: to jump on him after the whistle. He doesn't always
Speaker 1: maintain position when he blocks. He really fights hard to
Speaker 1: stay engaged. So that's it. With the fifty third in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Indianapolis could select
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce wide receiver for Cincinnati. Gosh darn its interest
Speaker 1: is interesting, became wide receivers. Receivers are going, but they're
Speaker 1: not the guys that I think the Cowboys would take.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, Alec Pierce. I kept thinking just by
Speaker 1: the measurables and everything, else. I was like, surely that'd
Speaker 1: have some interest every time I checked in. Its just
Speaker 1: like not really the name that I the name that
Speaker 1: I have circled at fifty six as far as receivers
Speaker 1: go is still hanging out and we've talked about don't
Speaker 1: say him then if it's like if you really, if
Speaker 1: it's I know who you're say, Yeah, I mean talking
Speaker 1: about him all night? Ok Okay, let's talk non receiver.
Speaker 1: Who else doesn't play here? I think they liked to
Speaker 1: Marvin Leal. I think Dean is potentially ride to tight end.
Speaker 1: Tight ends could be in that conversation. Is McBride the
Speaker 1: one though? Man? I mean I think there's gonna be
Speaker 1: off the board than you. Maybe. I think there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a run. I think there's gonna be a run
Speaker 1: on these tight ends, though, I just don't know when
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. Who starts it? Yeah, who starts it?
Speaker 1: Because when when they when they go, everybody's gonna start
Speaker 1: jumping in there. Now, they got a couple of these guys,
Speaker 1: like they said, you know otton Woods McBride, I mean,
Speaker 1: they've got guys. Let's have a conversation about positional value.
Speaker 1: If if if they decide that this is where they
Speaker 1: want to get an edge rusher. Yeah, yeah, how would
Speaker 1: is this? Is this realistic for Sam Williams. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people say, no, what do you like?
Speaker 1: What do we think about it? I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: getting Sam Williams, now, I think you're getting Sam Williams
Speaker 1: because you don't know if he makes it to the thirst.
Speaker 1: It's not a thing where it's like, well, this is
Speaker 1: where he should go. I think that's more. It's about it.
Speaker 1: You're worried about him falling in purgatory. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real honest here. Drake Jackson a better
Speaker 1: rusher and Igbari schefter did his best. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think those are the A lot of people across
Speaker 1: the league think kings Lean Nibari's got a higher ceiling
Speaker 1: that he could still reach. See that's where I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like him and Jackson are better than Sam
Speaker 1: Williams on my board that could we still throw Dean
Speaker 1: into the mix here as well, just would. But but
Speaker 1: I hate, I keep hate bringing up his name because
Speaker 1: there's something obviously wrong, something's there, something's there, and it's
Speaker 1: but you know, if you talk to this team. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's as I don't think it's as terminal
Speaker 1: as as we like to believe. So I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: but they like the reason we stopped talking about Dean
Speaker 1: even before we knew this was going to happen, And
Speaker 1: for me, it always went back to the fact that
Speaker 1: he's about four inches shorter than the guys that they
Speaker 1: liked to draft. Ye look at Layton vander Esch and
Speaker 1: look at Michael Parsons and tell me that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: would be in love with drafting nob Nakobe Dean. I
Speaker 1: just don't know if I buy it. We're so Kansas
Speaker 1: City's pick is in which the way everything everything moves,
Speaker 1: like eight minutes, I would guess we're getting close to
Speaker 1: Dallas needing to make a pig. Yeah, yep. So where
Speaker 1: are we at here? Because we're a little bit ahead
Speaker 1: and looks super animated in there like it doesn't look
Speaker 1: I'm scun we get that on the big screen, big
Speaker 1: big please? Is that possible? That whole that whole room.
Speaker 1: Where do we have to be? I don't know, A
Speaker 1: Fox and Box, I don't know we had the big
Speaker 1: picture yesterday. I thought we did too. I hate looking
Speaker 1: at myself on camera anyway, Thank you very much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so much. I'll see what's going on Wills Will
Speaker 1: Scott is is he looking at Steven? Steven's just sitting
Speaker 1: there right, Well, they're all just sitting No, No, I
Speaker 1: was trying to see. I can't see what the glare
Speaker 1: if he was on the phone. Looked like Jerry and
Speaker 1: Will are have both been talking recently. Mike's got his
Speaker 1: glasses pulled down on the bridge of his nose. I
Speaker 1: really do think that that you're looking at I love
Speaker 1: I love the word picture you paint for those who
Speaker 1: are not watching them. The You gotta paint the picture
Speaker 1: of the mind the theater. You see the way McCarthy
Speaker 1: looked there, Brian with his glasses down on the bridge
Speaker 1: of his nose, That's what I envisioned when you told
Speaker 1: me Jerry looked over when Garrett said Drew Henson was
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman. That's what you know. That's the That's what
Speaker 1: I have known he did. Jerry had his glasses on
Speaker 1: the end of his nose and he and his head
Speaker 1: shot up and I was like, what did you do?
Speaker 1: It kind of looked like it looks like Will. They're
Speaker 1: asking Will stuff like, yeah, I agree. They're going back
Speaker 1: and forth about whoever it is that they like, and
Speaker 1: they're saying Will might be argument for me, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: about what's he do here? What do we think about this?
Speaker 1: This might be Will might be talking about a defensive player,
Speaker 1: you know, because he kind of understands he's got a
Speaker 1: great relationship with Dan Quinn. Yeah, so this might be something.
Speaker 1: But who are the defensive players we mentioned Will, Dean
Speaker 1: Leal Williams. Yeah. Yeah, if you wanted to throw maybe
Speaker 1: a Drake Jackson or Cameron Thomas in there, you can
Speaker 1: see if a coach is sneaking. Travis Jones I mentioned
Speaker 1: him just as a one tech. I don't know if, like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to give us too much credit, but
Speaker 1: they have stopped letting the coaches like walk in when
Speaker 1: they're doing stuff Like it used to be like Kellen
Speaker 1: was hiding off camera. Yeah, like you could just see,
Speaker 1: oh forget hiding off camera. Marinelli used to walk in
Speaker 1: with like his soda and chat it up with everybody,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't happen anymore. I wonder if they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: but he was always he was always so Will is
Speaker 1: picking up the phone at the moment he has closed
Speaker 1: his laptop, and it looks like we are dialing up
Speaker 1: what could be the newest Dallas Cowboys. So once again,
Speaker 1: if it's a secret to you, you haven't necessarily been
Speaker 1: watching the entire time. But TV is ahead by or behind,
Speaker 1: excuse me, by multiple minutes. Kansas City is making their
Speaker 1: selection on or it looks like Tony Gonzalez walking up.
Speaker 1: They brought him back. Why I think you guys been
Speaker 1: drinking Las Vegas this Niklobe Deane. I hope you guys
Speaker 1: been winning. I'm speaking of winning. With the pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft to Kansas City Chief
Speaker 1: select sky We're two eyes More. They got the Western
Speaker 1: Michigan Tyreek Hill replacement. That's it. There's talk about him
Speaker 1: going in the first round to these guys. You know,
Speaker 1: we've we've we've done. I know that when Dane and
Speaker 1: Jeff and I were doing stuff together on Wednesday night,
Speaker 1: we were talking about sky More being a being a
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chief possibly in the first round. So they waited,
Speaker 1: they waited their way through and they got this thing done.
Speaker 1: That's a happy man somewhere tonight. Yeah, that's the offensive
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year front runner right now to be
Speaker 1: a fantasy football type guy right there. You throw him
Speaker 1: a ball and he's gonna go make a big play
Speaker 1: for you. Really good players across the building, there were
Speaker 1: thought process at least worth speculating. This is not based
Speaker 1: on anything super concrete, but there was conversation that he
Speaker 1: was a slot only guy. That's not necessarily the case.
Speaker 1: He's small. He's five ten. He's actually five nine if
Speaker 1: you want to raise him up a little bit, he's
Speaker 1: he's five nine and a half. He's one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety five pounds. But you watch his tape, I mean
Speaker 1: it is he makes incredible plays, you know, But that's
Speaker 1: I think that's a Mike McCarthy like, Hey, we're not
Speaker 1: taking slot guys. We're just not taking small slot guys
Speaker 1: as wide receivers. But Kansas City has a need. They'll
Speaker 1: figure out a way. They do a great job with
Speaker 1: their offensive staff of getting their players involved. We've seen
Speaker 1: it for years, you know, with the Mahomes. Will figure
Speaker 1: out a way to get this kid in the ball too.
Speaker 1: So Arizona on the clock at fifty five, their pick
Speaker 1: is in. That actually effectively puts the Cowboys on the
Speaker 1: clock at fifty six. Here's the Cardinals selection and then
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to come afterwards. What's up. Let's go the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals with the fifth to fifth pick and the
Speaker 1: two twenty two NFL Draft. The Arizona Cardinals select train
Speaker 1: back Bride, tight end Colorado State. That's go. He was
Speaker 1: in the conversation. They did some of the math for
Speaker 1: us there off the board. So here are the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If this is a receiver, I think it's Tolbert, Jaylen Tilbert.
Speaker 1: So who's the short list of names? Now? McBride was
Speaker 1: probably on there. We mentioned Jalen Tilbert from South Alabama,
Speaker 1: the wide receiver d Dresher, Sam Williams, David, if you
Speaker 1: had to make a guess, who is this at right now?
Speaker 1: I think that's what they've been debating for the last
Speaker 1: ten minutes. That's really these three. McBride was part of it.
Speaker 1: And then like, I think it'll be Jaylen Tulberger, Sam Williams.
Speaker 1: If I had to guess, take your pick, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess Sam Williams. I just I keep going
Speaker 1: back in my mind of Dan Quinn going to Oxford,
Speaker 1: Mississippi and working him out. He's been there for a while.
Speaker 1: Not to mention the thirty visit combine visit. Yeah, Sam
Speaker 1: telling us himself that, like Jerry got on the line
Speaker 1: with him during the draft process, a good point talking
Speaker 1: with him prior to the draft process. And we still
Speaker 1: haven't seen a ton of excitement in the war room
Speaker 1: at the moment, Like did they hop on the Oh no,
Speaker 1: it looks like Jerry is on the phone. Are their
Speaker 1: phones not working? Yeah, he's on a cell phone. So
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have made their selection. The pick is in
Speaker 1: and we are awaiting. Who is the fifty sixth pick
Speaker 1: in this twenty twenty two NFL draft. Cowboys selected offensive
Speaker 1: lineman Tyler Smith with the twenty fourth overall selection. Bobby,
Speaker 1: who do you think it is? It's tough. It really
Speaker 1: Talbert or Williams. But I don't know. Then they make
Speaker 1: them completely out left it. I just I feel like
Speaker 1: Talbert again, that's a name that I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: to the oo. Stephen just did a full on dance,
Speaker 1: So did he really mean yeah? So, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let's see here, this is where you could maybe see
Speaker 1: a coach pop up when they're all standing up and celebrating. Here.
Speaker 1: I would go Talbert, I'm gonna guess they go Williams.
Speaker 1: That's just a guess. I think I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1: It just feels like the smoke where there's fire. I've
Speaker 1: said this a million times on the Draft Show, and
Speaker 1: it just it just reminds me of the process that
Speaker 1: led them to DeMarcus Lawrence. And I know they traded
Speaker 1: up for him. So it's not a perfect comparison, but
Speaker 1: in the minds of these teams, man like, there's only
Speaker 1: so many guys that they think can get home at
Speaker 1: that position, and it's so valuable that you get your guy.
Speaker 1: And so if I'm guessing, I think that's the pick.
Speaker 1: Still looking for a coach, haven't seen one yet. Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy walked off screen to give the cell phone to
Speaker 1: somebody else. So, like you said, Dave, maybe there's maybe
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of president there. Here's this election
Speaker 1: as the Dallas Cowboys see Roger Goodell go to the
Speaker 1: podium cowboy celebrity for this. Come on, kick, come on, wow,
Speaker 1: come on. We're the fifty six pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft. The Dallas Cowboys select Sam Williams,
Speaker 1: defensive end. Oh Miss, there we go. It was tell
Speaker 1: graft from the early parts of the draft process. Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn gets his guy. It's an edge rusher to replace
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. Sam Williams is the pick out of Ole Miss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was a guy that you know, and there just
Speaker 1: was just too much. I mean when you start to
Speaker 1: you know, these pro days, you know, when you send
Speaker 1: coaches to go work guys out. It's one thing to
Speaker 1: go send a tight end coach or something to go
Speaker 1: work out. When you specifically send a defensive coordinator who
Speaker 1: has a background with defensive line, that right there tells
Speaker 1: you really all you need to know about that pick.
Speaker 1: I felt like that this they're having a draft. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys are having a draft right now where I believe
Speaker 1: they're seeing the board that they're going to have to
Speaker 1: go around early on some of these guys. So that's
Speaker 1: where I mean. They did it last night with Smith,
Speaker 1: they're doing it right now with Sam Williams. You know
Speaker 1: this guy, I mean, he's he's a good looking player now,
Speaker 1: I mean when you physically look at him and they've
Speaker 1: done so much, so much legwork on him. This guy
Speaker 1: has a real feel for how to rush the passer.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's that element to his game. The way
Speaker 1: he plays. He could locate the quarterback, He's gonna be
Speaker 1: right on top of that play. Makes a ton of
Speaker 1: plays from the back side. When he's chasing the quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's relentless in the way he rushes. The guy didn't
Speaker 1: give up on plays I mean sim I mean there's
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are trying to move around the pocket and he is.
Speaker 1: He is going like Nicks from Aubraham's running around and
Speaker 1: he's chasing him. You know, Willis at liberty. I'm watching
Speaker 1: those games. This guy never stops. He could redirect in
Speaker 1: the pocket, he could slide forward, he could cover some ground.
Speaker 1: I mean, the ability to finish like this. I really
Speaker 1: do like the player a lot. I mean, there are
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that thought maybe a little bit better,
Speaker 1: but I understand what they see in this football player.
Speaker 1: I'm really shocked they went away from wide receiver to
Speaker 1: get their edge rusher. Now that's my one thing. I
Speaker 1: do really like Sam Williams. He was a top sixty
Speaker 1: five player on my board, so this is right around
Speaker 1: where you would expect the player like that to go
Speaker 1: at a premium position like edge rusher. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about this election a little bit more in depth. You're
Speaker 1: gonna hear a ton about it over the next little
Speaker 1: bit where we aside right now on one O five
Speaker 1: three the fan of Dallas Cowboys dot Com back here
Speaker 1: on the internet side. And then we are still taking
Speaker 1: a look at Sam Williams, the newest Dallas Cowboy, and
Speaker 1: you look at his measurable six foot three, two hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty pounds, and he first caught my eyebrian at
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl because he showed up as a late ad.
Speaker 1: He was a replacement for some of those edge rushers
Speaker 1: that didn't make it all the way through the week.
Speaker 1: He had the white helmet on, didn't even have the
Speaker 1: old miss dome, and he was wearing a number seven
Speaker 1: in a black jersey and he was doing his drills.
Speaker 1: He was showing some bend off the edge. He is
Speaker 1: an athletic, jerky sort of player. But once again, David
Speaker 1: kind of goes back to what you were saying, you
Speaker 1: got to get ahead of it, and the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: done that in both rounds. At this point, I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you, man, and I understand your thought process,
Speaker 1: but like I I'm not shocked by this at all,
Speaker 1: and I don't think any of us I missed her. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't just mean the name, but like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm mister wide receiver. But like, if this is the
Speaker 1: guy that you've identified as your quarterback hunter, then you
Speaker 1: get him. You get him in the top sixty. Like
Speaker 1: I said, it's the same thing as DeMarcus Lawrence, where
Speaker 1: you're like, well, well this guy I'll be there, this
Speaker 1: guy will be there, and it's like, no, if this
Speaker 1: is the guy that you think can bend and get
Speaker 1: around guys and get home set the old miss Sack record,
Speaker 1: which that carries some weight for me when you put
Speaker 1: it together with his like physical, composite and everything. I
Speaker 1: mean to be able to do that consistently in the
Speaker 1: SEC and not even on like an Alabama where you
Speaker 1: have as much top line talent helping you out, that
Speaker 1: carries weight with me. And when teams identify a guy
Speaker 1: like this, they go get them. And people are gonna
Speaker 1: say it's too early, and they're gonna say, what the
Speaker 1: hell do you know. We've talked about a couple times
Speaker 1: the modern pass rusher YEP, and what it takes to
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. And this guy, I know, this
Speaker 1: staff believes if you don't have that that get off,
Speaker 1: if you don't have that burst around the corner, if
Speaker 1: you if you don't have that, you know, that twitch,
Speaker 1: then the way you're going to have to win is
Speaker 1: with inside moves and some other aspects to your game.
Speaker 1: And so in this sense that that's not something they
Speaker 1: have to worry about with Sam Williams. Sam william explodes
Speaker 1: out of his stance. He's got the speed to close
Speaker 1: on the quarterback, he can get around the corner. There's
Speaker 1: at times I think he looks a little stiff, but overall,
Speaker 1: I mean as a second round addresher. Like Brian said,
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to get ahead of the purgatory pick.
Speaker 1: I think they're worried about Sam Williams going between fifty
Speaker 1: six and eighty eight, and Stephen Jones said it that
Speaker 1: they think receiver and edge rusher are deep. That's where
Speaker 1: they think there's a lot of depth, and so I
Speaker 1: think they clearly felt better about getting a receiver at
Speaker 1: eighty eight. It looks like we got the Buccaneers at
Speaker 1: the podium right now. They're happy to be that because
Speaker 1: the day is my birthday. Happy birthday, birthday, gift on
Speaker 1: my birthday. The Buffalo Bills, I've traded the fifty seventh
Speaker 1: pick to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And with that fifty
Speaker 1: seventh pick in A two the twenty two NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select tackle Central Michigan and Luke Kdecki,
Speaker 1: the other Senior Bowl guy. A lot of these guys
Speaker 1: flying off the board now ahead of Ryman. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: that's something interesting too there. I mean maybe that we
Speaker 1: had some air pumped in the Ryeman a little bit
Speaker 1: there as far as the player. Some people maybe think
Speaker 1: that the curve is a little steep too as well.
Speaker 1: We're on our way back and we'll continue to break
Speaker 1: down the Cowboys selection of Sam Williams at fifty six
Speaker 1: right after this. That is exactly right. We are alive
Speaker 1: from the Star in Frisco, the world headquarters of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and Ford Center at the Star alongside David Hellman,
Speaker 1: Brian brought us. He's Bobby Belt, I'm Kyle Yeoman's The
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys have now made two selections in this year's
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. The first one being Tyler Smith, offensive lineman
Speaker 1: from Tulsa at twenty four, and then at fifty six
Speaker 1: in the second round, they go get their edge rusher,
Speaker 1: Sam Williams from Old miss and Bobby I like the
Speaker 1: point that you were making on the internet side on
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. But you go get your guy.
Speaker 1: But you also have to keep in mind that there
Speaker 1: is a connection with these players in knowing their background.
Speaker 1: Because there has been some background with Sam Williams. Cowboys
Speaker 1: definitely feel comfortable with that. Yeah, And I mean, look,
Speaker 1: dan Quinn was there. Dan Quinn ran him through the workouts.
Speaker 1: They know this guy and they feel good about him,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's I think their concern would have
Speaker 1: been here they are picking at fifty six and they're
Speaker 1: at eighty eight as their next pick. I think they're
Speaker 1: concerned with Sam Williams was going to go seventy or
Speaker 1: something like that, and I think they felt better about
Speaker 1: you know, this came down to Tilburton Williams, I would guess,
Speaker 1: and that they felt like the third round receivers because
Speaker 1: McBride went off the board. Yeah, I really think I
Speaker 1: think there was a robust conversation about those three and
Speaker 1: I personally would have gone receiver here just because I
Speaker 1: think that the options at defense, whether Sam Williams is
Speaker 1: there or not, I think the options at the edge
Speaker 1: are more appealing to me at eighty eight. But if
Speaker 1: that's the guy, I'm gonna you know, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: fault them for going after the guy that they liked.
Speaker 1: And look, this is this is also the fallout of, honestly,
Speaker 1: probably the Randy Gregor's situation. I don't know, do they
Speaker 1: take Sam Williams at fifty six off Randy Gregor's resign
Speaker 1: It's probably not. No. No. If DeMarcus Lawrence is on
Speaker 1: a guaranteed two year deal and Randy Gregory has at
Speaker 1: least two years of guarantees before you can get away
Speaker 1: from that, I don't think you do this. But it
Speaker 1: didn't work out. Dante Fowler's on a one year deal,
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons isn't gonna play edge full time, Terrell Basham's
Speaker 1: in a contract here. You gotta you gotta do something
Speaker 1: about it. Let's hear the Falcon selection at fifty eight
Speaker 1: O Day, with the fifty eighth pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Troy Anderson
Speaker 1: linebacker mine time of stains. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: these linebackers lately, but not the ones you would think.
Speaker 1: And I'm I don't know, I'm gonna have to follow
Speaker 1: up again. I know what we've heard, but I just
Speaker 1: gotta follow up again on these medicals. On Dane's I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he's smaller, but man, I do want to
Speaker 1: reset for those that maybe just be joining us for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys standpoint, because that pick was at fifty six,
Speaker 1: but we'll start at fifty with the Patriots, they take
Speaker 1: Taekwon Thornton wide receiver out of Baylor. Cam Jurgens goes
Speaker 1: fifty one to the Eagles offensive linemen from Nebraska, George
Speaker 1: Pickens and then Alec Pierce and then Sky More wide
Speaker 1: receivers back to back to back for the Steelers, the Colts,
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs from fifty two to fifty four. Then
Speaker 1: at fifty five that's where things got interesting for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: One of their names that they have been debating Trey McBride,
Speaker 1: certainly at least in that conversation at tight end. The
Speaker 1: first tight end off the board goes to the Cardinals
Speaker 1: at fifty five, and then the Cowboys selects Sam Williams
Speaker 1: at fifty six. Luke Gadecki from Central Michigan offensive tackle
Speaker 1: goes Tampa Bay a pick later, and then the Falcons.
Speaker 1: You just heard it, Troy Anderson, linebacker from Montana State. Brian,
Speaker 1: I want to continue hearing your thoughts on Sam Williams,
Speaker 1: just based on now you've got a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: to think about this, and we saw it kind of
Speaker 1: telegraphed throughout the draft process. Do you hate the pick? No,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I absolutely tell me about why this is
Speaker 1: going to make an impact for this defense. And again,
Speaker 1: you dave, everybody's walking everybody through the whole thing with
Speaker 1: Fowler and all that. You you you take any player
Speaker 1: you want defensively and give him with this defensive staff.
Speaker 1: I have a hell of a lot more confidence than
Speaker 1: that right now than anything. Now, maybe maybe this guy
Speaker 1: on my board third round, great, but whatever, I don't
Speaker 1: mean that that shouldn't bother you. But what what this
Speaker 1: guy can do, though, is he can rush the passer.
Speaker 1: I just there's there's several guys I have ahead of him,
Speaker 1: but I understand it. Though. This guy is relentless coming
Speaker 1: after the ball. At fifty nine real quickly. It's honored
Speaker 1: to be here and to be honest, toil like I'm
Speaker 1: living in a dream. With twenty twenty two NFL draft,
Speaker 1: the Minnesota vikingsla ed Ingram guard from you had him right,
Speaker 1: you see you were you were questioning, Oh, like, man,
Speaker 1: am I wrong? Like like I like this guy. I
Speaker 1: heard you several times talk about I must be hiring
Speaker 1: this guy. Looks like you were right on do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about edd Ingram or you want to
Speaker 1: finish up on Williams? No, I want to real quick
Speaker 1: where you do that? I want to add that's a
Speaker 1: great point by Brian, which again like if if you
Speaker 1: don't like the pick or you think it's a reach,
Speaker 1: you're completely entitled to that opinion. Tyler Smith said something
Speaker 1: about that today, But what was the quote. Opinions are
Speaker 1: like buttholes, Oh that's it, that's the one. Um. But
Speaker 1: the fact that dan Quinn loved this guy and he
Speaker 1: did to walk him through his workouts, Yeah, that should
Speaker 1: inspire some degree of confidence after what we saw him
Speaker 1: doing his first season, right, I mean everything came touch
Speaker 1: turned to gold in terms of like on field performance.
Speaker 1: The staff first made five million dollars off of signing
Speaker 1: to play under Dan Quinn. No, I think that carries
Speaker 1: It's the same reason why you have hope in Dante
Speaker 1: Fowler as a signing. Yeah, you do know exactly right.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm a little less, you know, Like I say,
Speaker 1: the player that was drafted last night was an offensive player.
Speaker 1: If he said, well, he's got deficiencies, but he's gonna
Speaker 1: play for Dan Quinn and this defensive staff, I'm going, huh,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a good pick. I think the same thing.
Speaker 1: I think the same thing with Sam Williams. I really,
Speaker 1: do you give me a guy that's long range, can
Speaker 1: get off the first step. Dan will teach this guy
Speaker 1: how to rush. You know, they'll eighty those guys will
Speaker 1: teach this guy how to rush or how they want
Speaker 1: him to rush. Guy's relentless as a player. I have
Speaker 1: absolutely no problem with this guy because I do because
Speaker 1: I think I know now what the Cowboys are doing.
Speaker 1: They're going this thing around early there, I mean tonight,
Speaker 1: the whole nights. We might see them. It might stabilize
Speaker 1: on people's boards, but it's going to retreat. No, they
Speaker 1: don't think that they're going to have that guy the
Speaker 1: second time around, and then and they don't want to
Speaker 1: pass on a player. It doesn't matter what we think,
Speaker 1: it's what they think, just to play Devil's advocate, Like
Speaker 1: that is the definition of reaching though, Like if you
Speaker 1: grab a guy earlier than you're supposed to because you
Speaker 1: know you can't have him later. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: but that it's you know, to us, we call it reaching.
Speaker 1: To them, they might have the guy exactly. You know,
Speaker 1: they might have first round grades on the top on
Speaker 1: the guard and a second round grade on this guy.
Speaker 1: If you let go of the myth that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: just have a list and they're going to take the
Speaker 1: best possible player on it every time. If you let
Speaker 1: go of that, this whole thing becomes easier to understand,
Speaker 1: I'm serious, or to swallow. Like they they grade these
Speaker 1: guys and they try to stick to the grades, but
Speaker 1: they also have an idea of what they want to
Speaker 1: come out with, and the year after year we see
Speaker 1: them do this where they will make a judgment call
Speaker 1: that doesn't always align with the way players are graded.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. By the way, the Bengals
Speaker 1: have just traded into the sixtieth pick in this draft.
Speaker 1: Following that at Ingram and the Bengals never the red flag.
Speaker 1: Who's the red flag? They're coming for, Brian, who is
Speaker 1: the red flag? They're can Kobe Dean man, they might
Speaker 1: be dude, this is a This is a staff. Again.
Speaker 1: The reason I love the Bengals so that they have
Speaker 1: them the smallest scouting staffs in the league. It's a
Speaker 1: coach driven staff. Though coaches will say, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I watch this Dean kid play the five scouts or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Like two of them are named a Tobin,
Speaker 1: one's an old man, and the others of the son. Seriously,
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's Katie Blackburn Brown and Trey Brown
Speaker 1: and everybody else. You know, Hey, family, come on in,
Speaker 1: be a scout. That's what they do. But you know what,
Speaker 1: they really rely on their coaches and yeah, this could be.
Speaker 1: They don't care about medical, they don't care about character.
Speaker 1: You know, they just they picked players. And I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm I always think
Speaker 1: about big ten players. Here's they're a big ten player
Speaker 1: on the board. That was something we always got, you know,
Speaker 1: with with the with the Bengals was that was always
Speaker 1: going to be a big ten. But isn't isn't there
Speaker 1: a new thing there? The LSU? Oh yeah, the LSU
Speaker 1: team there it might be sec We might we might
Speaker 1: see the Kobe. They snapped a lot of those guys up,
Speaker 1: like we're not producing them the way we were a
Speaker 1: few years ago, at least not the man. See maybe
Speaker 1: that's I bet they got it kicked in the gut.
Speaker 1: Then when ed Ingram went off, that was an LSU
Speaker 1: player with a red flag. I'm just teasing. I met
Speaker 1: Ed Ingram, he was a nice kid. Moan Clark, is
Speaker 1: there maybe another red red flag LSU player the big ten? Leo'shanelle?
Speaker 1: Is there the Moan Clark camp? Could could they take
Speaker 1: the We talked about offensive line right the tackle? Maybe
Speaker 1: you think to train back in for oh I was
Speaker 1: thinking the Ohio might Yeah it might be, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it might be. There was there were some people who
Speaker 1: thought Petite for like there was chatter could have been
Speaker 1: agent driven or whatever else. But there was chatter in
Speaker 1: circles that like, ok, he could sneak into the back Cincinnati, Kentucky, right,
Speaker 1: you know, across the border from each other like that.
Speaker 1: I mean they they they might. They might go with
Speaker 1: Ard the Guard here from Kentucky Bown. You know, they
Speaker 1: spent somebody that's a big man, that Canard six five
Speaker 1: three twenty two. Yeah, he is a big dude. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm kind of keeping my eye on some
Speaker 1: they've come up here for the Bengals. Traditionally will not.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could call the Bengals pre draft and
Speaker 1: you say, hey, Duke, it's brought us from the cow. Hey, Brian,
Speaker 1: how's it going. Hey, well if you want to train, well,
Speaker 1: thanks Brian, appreciate it the call, you know that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Don't call us. Yeah, they never. They just
Speaker 1: sat there and made picks. You know, they didn't want
Speaker 1: to talk to you. You know, like, hey, what are
Speaker 1: you calling for, Brian. I mean, I'm just checking the phone, Duke.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it, you know, kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: Making sure it works, just making sure it works. I'm
Speaker 1: just looking up all of the big ten guys because
Speaker 1: I just think that'd be funny if that ended up happening.
Speaker 1: Leo Chanelle is on the board. The board. You get
Speaker 1: Taylor Britt's there, You've got Brandon Smith that's there. I'm
Speaker 1: going down my list. Oh man, Abraham Lucas, you like
Speaker 1: him as I do, a guy I do. That could
Speaker 1: be a pick here. That's Washington State though, right yeah,
Speaker 1: oh sorry, I'm I'm stretching now, I'm pulling up a
Speaker 1: random people for some reason I make that's tomorrow, we stretch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's try to crack a Miller light here at this thing.
Speaker 1: We were well, we were supposed to agree that. Hey,
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Speaker 1: Miller Light. See look they're showing there, showing the draft rooms,
Speaker 1: and all those guys in that room right now are
Speaker 1: coaches and there's like four scouts. Seriously, that's all I got.
Speaker 1: I love it though, Go Bengals, Go Bengals, so Tygers,
Speaker 1: oh Man, buy you Bengals takes a whole new meaning
Speaker 1: in this room. You damn right, it really does. Here's
Speaker 1: the selection for the Bengals at pick number twenty sixty
Speaker 1: sixty Beer Curtis pleased to read the card. Well, the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills have trained the Sikeeth pick to the Cincinnati Bengals,
Speaker 1: you know it. With the sixtieth pick in the two
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select
Speaker 1: Cam Taylor Brett, defensive back the breast. Oh there you go,
Speaker 1: play big ten. They needed a corner. Yeah, oh man, hey,
Speaker 1: they went to it. How do you grade Cam Taylor Britt.
Speaker 1: He's got three names, which is actually pretty cool. And
Speaker 1: it's cool. And find me a little time to get
Speaker 1: to that report that I got here on this Cat
Speaker 1: Taylor Britt. He's six foot one ninety six from Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Where's number five for you? By the way, look at
Speaker 1: they're all shaking hands. Duke's gonna stand up and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: good job boys, Hoven. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't call me hey, but he'll he'll pleasedly play the
Speaker 1: right corner. He's an interesting because he must have a
Speaker 1: reputation as a player that opponents are always taking a
Speaker 1: run at because they're always fighting with this guy. He's
Speaker 1: always getting But to his credit, he didn't back down
Speaker 1: on the tape. You can see that he likes to
Speaker 1: be in the middle of the action. The raz Cruers
Speaker 1: made some really nice plays on the ball. He's seeing
Speaker 1: clips of him going to knock the ball away. Ball
Speaker 1: skills were really really good too when he was coming
Speaker 1: down with it. There's some plays in these games where
Speaker 1: he's at tick late just making the play. Drove on
Speaker 1: the ball well enough. A couple of times. The guy's
Speaker 1: got some quickness to him. I felt like he played
Speaker 1: with good anticipation and where he's only fooled a little
Speaker 1: bit in the Iowa game and a short yardage play
Speaker 1: where the tight end got behind him, but his movement
Speaker 1: is good. I say, there's really no issues with that
Speaker 1: at all. He wants to be physical, he wants to
Speaker 1: show the ability to be around the action, and he
Speaker 1: was able to get his man on the ground as
Speaker 1: a wrap up tacker. Probably a pretty good player for
Speaker 1: me right there. Here's the forty nine ers they pick
Speaker 1: at sixty one. Then after the forty nine ers is
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Bengals, and the Broncos, and that rounds
Speaker 1: out the second round again. The Cowboys will be selecting
Speaker 1: an eighty eight coming up, and it looks like we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a bit of a pause here. I've been
Speaker 1: requested to open the beer. John ma showed to texted
Speaker 1: and said he's turning the show off unless Brian opens
Speaker 1: the beer. Here you go here. It's the first time
Speaker 1: I've ever had a sip of a beer during a draft, John,
Speaker 1: I did it for you, buddy. I hope you enjoy
Speaker 1: the friend of the show. I've never had a I've
Speaker 1: never had a sip of alcohol during a draft. Look
Speaker 1: at that. You're so you're I did it from a Showda,
Speaker 1: You're wired so strangely, my friend, I am a weird guy.
Speaker 1: Just take a sip of the beer. I did. I did.
Speaker 1: I took a sip. What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: Brian was gonna not eat dinner if I hadn't brought
Speaker 1: him something. He was like, I haven't. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: write this Taylor Britt's name down. David quietly like, don't
Speaker 1: talk about what a weirdo I am. I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta get back to this reporter. I got a question
Speaker 1: for you, Brian. We talked about this on the Draft
Speaker 1: Show earlier in the in the draft process. Do you
Speaker 1: have him more as a safety or a corner because
Speaker 1: I went back and I graded him as a corner.
Speaker 1: That's what I did. Yeah, I think I ended up
Speaker 1: with him as a safety. But he does have very
Speaker 1: good opportunity. Oh, Bruce Hall is just now being announced
Speaker 1: in terms of the Jets pick. I guess he made
Speaker 1: his way to the stage that of a walk up
Speaker 1: from No. He was probably like on the strip or something.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, screw this. I mean he's at
Speaker 1: the table with the dice in his hand. Is tieing number?
Speaker 1: Who who was the kid Milwaukee drafted in the NBA,
Speaker 1: Like Brandon Jennings remember him? Oh? Yeah, he like left
Speaker 1: the draft because he was mad that he didn't get picked,
Speaker 1: and then they had to like he came back and
Speaker 1: was like, okay, give me the hat. His career ended
Speaker 1: like you thought it would. Goodness. So with four picks
Speaker 1: remaining until the end of the second round and then
Speaker 1: you get the third round underway with the Jaguars, it's
Speaker 1: sixty five. Anybody you kind of hone in on what's
Speaker 1: next for the Cowboys here because you've got your offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: you've got your edge rusher. If you asked anybody on
Speaker 1: the street, that's two of your top three needs. Are
Speaker 1: you pigeonholed into a pass catcher in the third round?
Speaker 1: Now now that you haven't necessarily addressed it, If you
Speaker 1: say pass catcher also means tight end, then I think, yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I That's why I said that wide receiver
Speaker 1: you need, you need somebody to catch the football. I was.
Speaker 1: I want, I think so, I was. I just read
Speaker 1: they may not feel the same way. To be fair,
Speaker 1: they may not feel they need to get somebody. I
Speaker 1: think they do. They do one they do. It's like,
Speaker 1: even if it's just for the short term, like Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup's probably gonna miss time, they need somebody. I don't.
Speaker 1: I know. We talk about the depth of this receiver
Speaker 1: class and they are good players, but like, I'm not
Speaker 1: in love with any name that you're gonna throw me
Speaker 1: at eighty eight. Like there's not a guy you could
Speaker 1: say at eight one of those tight ends. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking purely receivers. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Tight
Speaker 1: ends start. I mean, if the Tolbert goes all the
Speaker 1: way to eighty eight, if that happens, sure, But I
Speaker 1: don't know they all like Khalil Shakiir, I do, but
Speaker 1: I did Shakir slot. I think they think of him
Speaker 1: as a slot. I. Actually that's what I'm saying. Kellen
Speaker 1: more about Khalil Shakiir the other day and he was like,
Speaker 1: I try to keep my mouth shut on the boys
Speaker 1: guys because everybody expects me to cheer lead. Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it like the old Sean Payton like concern when
Speaker 1: he was talking about Romo when he got here. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I hate that I'm gonna have to talk
Speaker 1: about him because they're all just gonna think he went
Speaker 1: to my school. No exactly. Yeah, Like or how people
Speaker 1: bust on me and Brian every time an LSU guy comes,
Speaker 1: no kid and we hear that a lot. What about
Speaker 1: a Romeo Dobbs from Nevada? Man, That's a way totally
Speaker 1: for me. Bro I just wanted to throw that out.
Speaker 1: There was a forty nine Ers selection at sixty one
Speaker 1: with the sixty first pick in the twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: NFL t get some classes its Fantacisco. Forty nine Ers
Speaker 1: select Drake Jackson, linebacker, linebacker Robbery Drake Jackson so close?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Drake Jackson there? Bobby? Can
Speaker 1: do you want to hear what I have to say. Yes, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think that's why you're on the show. There was
Speaker 1: some like it looked like taco film to me at times.
Speaker 1: Like to be completely honest, wow, Like I think there's stiffness.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of coverage sacks like. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's honestly what I thought when I watched him. Let's
Speaker 1: hear more about Drake Jackson and the back half of
Speaker 1: the second. I said, did you want to know when
Speaker 1: I'm here for news, Kyle, Hey, I like it. I'm
Speaker 1: I have no problem with it, but we do need
Speaker 1: to take a break when we come back. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about it more on one oh five three the fan
Speaker 1: in Dallas Cowboys. That shot of fireball Bob back here
Speaker 1: on the internet side, Good job, Bobby. I like the
Speaker 1: scounting report I did last night. I'm saying, Lamar Johnson's
Speaker 1: a receiver. You know what I think with Bobby. There's
Speaker 1: there's things that you I think he's onto some things.
Speaker 1: I do see some of that. When he has to
Speaker 1: disengage from blocks, I think there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: some problems with that. And when the ball came right
Speaker 1: at him to tight end, was the tackle was able
Speaker 1: to control him a little bit better. But you figure
Speaker 1: with his length sixty threes two hundred and fifty four pounds,
Speaker 1: he would figure or he'd be a little bit better
Speaker 1: that with that, so I can understand where Bobby was
Speaker 1: was going. But I kind of found like there was something.
Speaker 1: There were plenty of plays I watched though Bobby. I
Speaker 1: saw Notre Dame Ucilian, Arizona State where okay, we got
Speaker 1: a pick here, sorry, Chiefs select Brian Cook dB. Not
Speaker 1: a Cincinnati day. I think that was a late day
Speaker 1: to early day three Cowboys potential. There's some good there's
Speaker 1: some good safeties in this draft, I mean jeez. But anyway,
Speaker 1: finish up with the Drake Jackson thing. You know, I
Speaker 1: kind of felt like there were times where he was
Speaker 1: like out of position and then somehow he managed to
Speaker 1: get right back in on the play. So I kind
Speaker 1: of like Drake Jackson a little bit more than you.
Speaker 1: But just one of the frustrating things for me with
Speaker 1: Drake Jackson too, is like when you watch him, I
Speaker 1: remember his freshman year obviously, like I wasn't like watching him,
Speaker 1: but like just watching USC that year, I remember seeing
Speaker 1: him flash and that's the frustrating thing is that it
Speaker 1: felt like it never I think that's what teams were
Speaker 1: frustrated with with Kingsley Ningbari like Nigbari like flashed early
Speaker 1: on and then it stunted, and it's like, Okay, where's more?
Speaker 1: Like we thought there was more coming. I think there
Speaker 1: are teams who have felt that way about Drake Jackson,
Speaker 1: that like, where is the more? Like we felt like
Speaker 1: there should have been more two more years into your
Speaker 1: college career. Looking at the board as it lies now,
Speaker 1: Bengals followed by the Bills because they traded into that
Speaker 1: Broncos pick on the final pick of the second round.
Speaker 1: Then we're into the third round here on twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two Draft coverage on one with five three The Van
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David As, you're looking at
Speaker 1: this board kind of unfolding. Now, anybody surprised you that
Speaker 1: there's still not off the board at the end of
Speaker 1: the second I mean, we'll keep saying Nakobe Dean. Outside
Speaker 1: of Nakobe Dean, I've given up on saying that, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, because there's something There's something wrong,
Speaker 1: and maybe not with this team, but with some with
Speaker 1: another teams at this point, I'm starting to be surprised
Speaker 1: that Willis and Ritter are still there too. Yes, the quarterback,
Speaker 1: I mean the one that again there was talked about
Speaker 1: him going in the first round and he's still sitting
Speaker 1: there with Travis Jones. Yeah, yeah, that's that's another one.
Speaker 1: You're right about that. And by the way, we don't
Speaker 1: have any secret audio from from Sam Williams in the pick,
Speaker 1: just because it was on the cell phone. Apparently they
Speaker 1: had trouble getting through, so there's no secret audio. But
Speaker 1: we are going to have Sam Williams on the phone
Speaker 1: right after this twenty twenty two NFL Draft coverage here
Speaker 1: from the Star in Frisco Ford Center at the Star
Speaker 1: in the SWBC Studios, brought to you as always by
Speaker 1: our friends at Miller Lte. He's David Hellman, that's Brian
Speaker 1: brought us Bobby Belt, I'm Kyle Yeoman's and we are
Speaker 1: now joined by the newest Dallas Cowboy as at number
Speaker 1: fifty six. Over all, the Cowboys select Sam Williams edge
Speaker 1: rusher out of old Miss Sam is on the line now, Sam, congratulations,
Speaker 1: welcome to Cowboys Nation. Appreciate it, I appreciate it. Man's
Speaker 1: let's just mann put it in words. How I feel
Speaker 1: like it's crazy. Well, we're gonna ask you to put
Speaker 1: it into words as much as you possibly can. You've
Speaker 1: had a ton of contact with this team throughout the
Speaker 1: draft process, kind of outlined when that first began and
Speaker 1: how it evolved along the way. Uh you said when
Speaker 1: I had the first contact? Sure now that we wait, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I said. Oh. Um, first contact was um,
Speaker 1: a NFLPA game. Um. I was talking to some of
Speaker 1: the scouts there and we kind of hit it offer
Speaker 1: of b I talked to really all the scouts, but
Speaker 1: Dallas and some more teams were like kind of the
Speaker 1: ones because afterwards, you know, you report back to your
Speaker 1: agents or who you talk to, And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Dallas really liked me. Like I was telling my agent,
Speaker 1: Mitchell Moore that Dallas really like me. Um, who else
Speaker 1: are the Jets too? I was like, I think it's
Speaker 1: the Jets or Dallas all the way? Hey, saying I'm
Speaker 1: literally on Twitter congrats by the way, Um, I'm on
Speaker 1: Twitter watching the video of dan Quinn putting you through
Speaker 1: your pro day workout. Uh, dan Quinn's got got a
Speaker 1: lot of fans here in Dallas with what he was
Speaker 1: able to do with Micael Parsons last year. I'm just
Speaker 1: curious what your relationship with him is, like, what you
Speaker 1: think of him as a coach, and how much you've
Speaker 1: you've talked to him during this process. Um, I talked
Speaker 1: to him. I talked to him quite a bit, like
Speaker 1: we was texting. We text before, um, like before the
Speaker 1: whole even the draft started the day before, I know,
Speaker 1: the day of the first round, which was yesterday. We
Speaker 1: were just whishing each other good luck and I basically
Speaker 1: told him like, hey, I want to be a cowboy,
Speaker 1: like but you know, you know, and then I waited
Speaker 1: my turn. But um, me being worked out by him
Speaker 1: was a huge honor. I didn't know I was gonna
Speaker 1: get worked out by him. I would have scratched a
Speaker 1: little more kinda but but it was. It was a
Speaker 1: great experience. Um. Then when I came up to the
Speaker 1: top thirty visit, it was like man, me and himing
Speaker 1: on each other for years, Like we hit off like
Speaker 1: just like that. And as soon as I got to
Speaker 1: my room, like I was, I mean, my agent spending
Speaker 1: like I think thirty minutes of me talking about the facilities,
Speaker 1: the coaches the game kind of have for me, Like
Speaker 1: I like coach, Like, I mean I told my agent,
Speaker 1: I said I don't want to leave. I even told
Speaker 1: them like I'm gonna miss my plane on purpose, so
Speaker 1: I want to have to leave here. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you this though, Say when you okay, so then
Speaker 1: you've had a chance then to meet Jerry Jones, did
Speaker 1: you kind of say when he called you when they
Speaker 1: got you got him on the phone, did you kind
Speaker 1: of tell him, hey, what's up? Boss? Kind of one
Speaker 1: of those things. I mean, you now know him, you're
Speaker 1: like your personal friends, thirty visits and things like that.
Speaker 1: Did you did you kind of ask him, hey, thanks
Speaker 1: for thanks for taking care of me on this on
Speaker 1: this pick, I really what when I heard his boys?
Speaker 1: What when they gave him the phone? Yeah? Like my man,
Speaker 1: like every every every time he and him have a
Speaker 1: conversation is great. Like I'm talking about we Um. I
Speaker 1: think it was supposed to be a ten minute um
Speaker 1: a meeting Greek, but we I think we stayed in
Speaker 1: there for like twenty twenty five minutes just talking like
Speaker 1: we was talking. And he's a great guy. He Um.
Speaker 1: He shares some knowledge with me um of course, like
Speaker 1: being young and being um inexperience like knowledge is always
Speaker 1: a good thing. So like like like I love being
Speaker 1: around order guys like that that'd been through us, saw
Speaker 1: it and then like overcame things. But yeah, like I
Speaker 1: mete him at the All American campaign to watch peyton Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, man, I was just like I
Speaker 1: just was happy, like just happy to hear his voice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I bet you okay him him or Lane Kiffen more
Speaker 1: swag he's got more swag him or kif I gotta
Speaker 1: give it the kivin. I haven't been around him up
Speaker 1: a couple of hours, yeah, but given I've been around
Speaker 1: him for days. Yeah. Sam Williams ed dresser and the
Speaker 1: newest Dallas Cowboys picked at number fifty six out of
Speaker 1: old miss joining us here on one five three The
Speaker 1: Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Sam, Congratulations, everybody's really excited.
Speaker 1: It seems like to have you here with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We can talk all day long about what type of
Speaker 1: player you are, but if you could put it into
Speaker 1: your own words, what kind of player do you think
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans should expect? Man? They just hey, they just
Speaker 1: need to be ready for a hard worker, like I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be averaging, no aspect, and and it
Speaker 1: starts from practice, Like I love practice because the game
Speaker 1: come easy when you practice hard. Um, a guy that's
Speaker 1: on that's just wouldn't to help out the team and
Speaker 1: with with with whatever, even if it's special teams, if
Speaker 1: it's hey, they need a uh dunny, you know, anything,
Speaker 1: like anything I can do and help, I'm willing to
Speaker 1: do it because like from over the years, you know,
Speaker 1: I learned to meet me in the team and brotherhood
Speaker 1: from Old Miss because that's what Coulsure we built at
Speaker 1: Old Miss, that coach we u we made for the
Speaker 1: youngest guys coming in. So like ballas is getting a
Speaker 1: great player man a great owning off the field. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm a family guy. UM got a beautiful son, beautiful
Speaker 1: lady by my side. I'm just hey, I'm all in.
Speaker 1: I'm bald and family. That's all. That's all I'm That's
Speaker 1: how I need, That's how I want all in. It
Speaker 1: sounds great from Urn. Now when you describe you're on
Speaker 1: the field side, what do you feel like is your
Speaker 1: biggest strength when you are you're barreling down on a quarterback?
Speaker 1: What do you feel like you bring you the table back.
Speaker 1: I feel like like like you getting to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: like I can get to the quarterback. I can um
Speaker 1: pressure the quarterback because I mean some people might not
Speaker 1: look at pressures as big as stacks, but pressures matter
Speaker 1: a lot. But my biggest strength I can hold it
Speaker 1: is and then I can get to the quarterback. And
Speaker 1: I'm dependable, like I'll be where I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 1: I'll do my dog, Sam, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Congratulations again on being the newest Dallas Cowboy. We looked
Speaker 1: it forward to talking with you soon and seeing you
Speaker 1: out there on the field very soon as well. Sure
Speaker 1: there we go, Sam Williams, second round pick for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys here in twenty twenty two. Glad you are
Speaker 1: joining us here on one to five three the Fan
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And hey, he says he's
Speaker 1: all in, Brian, he's ready to go. Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 1: I mean I also I give him credit that he
Speaker 1: says that his head coach here at Old Miss's got
Speaker 1: more swaged. Wait till he sees this guy. Brian. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't like to say nice things about you. Hate
Speaker 1: Old Miss more than anybody. But Lane Kiffin has got
Speaker 1: some swag. Man. That's just no way around it there.
Speaker 1: So but no, you know, and he's right. You like
Speaker 1: to hear that. You know, all these players are. They're
Speaker 1: very excited. It's it's you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: relief now. I mean you could hear it there. There's
Speaker 1: that nervousness in there when they're when you talk to him,
Speaker 1: but they know you lighten him up a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, these guys are gonna have some fun. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a heck of a football player, he really really is.
Speaker 1: I think this defensive coaching staff will find ways to
Speaker 1: get him involved like they did at Old Miss. By
Speaker 1: the way, since he was on the phone, we did
Speaker 1: see the second round come to a close in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: Drake Jackson edge rusher from usc to the forty nine
Speaker 1: Ers went to sixty one. Sixty two was Brian Cook,
Speaker 1: the safety of Cincinnati going to the Chiefs. The Bills
Speaker 1: took James Cook running back out of Georgia, and then
Speaker 1: the Broncos rounding out the second round getting an edge
Speaker 1: rusher to go along with newly found edge rusher Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: Nick Bonito edge rusher from Oklahoma goes as the final
Speaker 1: pick into the second round, which means that Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: are on the clock their pick is in to start
Speaker 1: the third round of action. Glad you're with us, Bobby
Speaker 1: Belt Brian brought us David Helman. I'm Kyle Yeoman's here
Speaker 1: from the Star in Frisco Ford Center at the Star
Speaker 1: brought to you by Miller Lite and the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com Draft Show. Dave, what do you think about
Speaker 1: the phone call with Sam Williams there, I'm it's funny
Speaker 1: because like i'm, I'm simultaneously I think I said it
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm concerned about what comes next because like
Speaker 1: you don't get your pass catcher there, I'm concerned about
Speaker 1: what that means for your options. I get I get
Speaker 1: people's concerned with that. But what I what I know
Speaker 1: and what I've heard about Sam Williams, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I just I think I understand this pick, like it's
Speaker 1: not hard for me to wrap my brain around it.
Speaker 1: And um, I'm curious to see what Dan Quinn con
Speaker 1: the question. So I have to ask you, then, is
Speaker 1: this is this Mary? Maybe? And again, correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Is this maybe Jerry Jones stepping in and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I trust dan Quinn. You know, dan Quinn want and
Speaker 1: maybe the Scouts don't want this guy, or maybe I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say it that way. Maybe the Scouts had some
Speaker 1: other guys in mind, you're talking about the receivers, or
Speaker 1: maybe they wanted to go another direction, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden and Jerry the general manager looks dan Quinny goes,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Dan had this guy. We you know,
Speaker 1: we worked this guy out, Dan. We need an end,
Speaker 1: you know. Is this one of those things where you
Speaker 1: think that Jerry Jones stepped in and and was was
Speaker 1: adamant about that, you know, this player being taken because
Speaker 1: of Dan Quinn and the trust he has for dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: Let's answer that question right after this Jacksonville pick the
Speaker 1: third round, Tony both Selling all right With the sixty
Speaker 1: fifth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguar select Luke Partner, center, Kentucky. I hate that
Speaker 1: general manager down there. Abody picked a good player there.
Speaker 1: He must not have been in the room. No, he wasn't.
Speaker 1: Somebody else, Tony Kahn, somebody else mased this pick no
Speaker 1: man this. Let me talk about this guy a little bit.
Speaker 1: If I can't love this guy, I do I and
Speaker 1: I've loved him for a long time, and I think
Speaker 1: that he's going to work out just fine. And when
Speaker 1: you watch, you watch the film of him play and
Speaker 1: I'm watching them, I'm watching Missouri, I'm watching Georgia. I mean,
Speaker 1: he like Georgie's got those animals up front, and he's
Speaker 1: and he's not getting knocked back, and you know, he's
Speaker 1: holding his own and he's staying in position. He's not
Speaker 1: on the ground, he's keeping his feet, he's working himself
Speaker 1: between the defender the ball. You know, he plays Missouri
Speaker 1: and he's knocking them all over the place, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean that's this guy doesn't matter. Great competition, good
Speaker 1: competition in the SEC. This guy does a great job
Speaker 1: with the combination. Blocks, works well to guards, he's hip
Speaker 1: to hips, He's able to kind of secure the down lineman.
Speaker 1: And then he gets that second level. I love his
Speaker 1: awareness for pass protection and you know, he makes sure
Speaker 1: his man's taken care of. But then he's kind of
Speaker 1: got an eye on some other areas there. So it
Speaker 1: might be a little light at thrill seven, but I
Speaker 1: didn't think that was a problem at all. Here's the
Speaker 1: Vikings at sixty seven. Minnesota. Vikings select Brian Asamoa, linebacker Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: another linebacker off the board before the Obie Dean just
Speaker 1: so you know. Yeah, Asamoa good player too. I like
Speaker 1: him a little bit. And this is right around where
Speaker 1: I had him rated. But going back to Luke Fortner,
Speaker 1: finally getting protection for Trevor Lawrence. That's a yeah thing
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville upfront. And then the Vikings get some extra
Speaker 1: second level help with with Asamoah here in the second
Speaker 1: pick of the third round. Yeah, I mean, and Asamoa
Speaker 1: is like like I mean, he is one of those
Speaker 1: guys when you watch him play, I mean he is.
Speaker 1: He is all over the field, he really really is.
Speaker 1: He's like a sideline to sideline player. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: he's his speed, his burst. He's six foot, he's two
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six pounds, but man, he can cover
Speaker 1: some ground. He looks short on a tape, but there's
Speaker 1: anything but that. When he sees the play, he's gone.
Speaker 1: He's a good physical, wrap up tackler, athletic guy. I
Speaker 1: mean allows him to play in coverage. He could be wide,
Speaker 1: he could be on the blitz. He could blitz from
Speaker 1: the inside linebacker spot. He's got a feel for how
Speaker 1: to blitz so that there were several times where he
Speaker 1: was right on the quarterback after he took this apps.
Speaker 1: This guy's got a really good feel for it. I
Speaker 1: love his recognition and that reading ability. He was one
Speaker 1: of the guys that stepped in for Kenneth Murray as
Speaker 1: soon as Kenneth Murray was was drafted in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: And of course he's now a starter with the Chargers
Speaker 1: out in LA. But you talk about a high level
Speaker 1: playmaker on the second level of that Oklahoma defense. He
Speaker 1: stepped in and done a great job with that. Here
Speaker 1: is sixty seven in the New York Giant A quarter
Speaker 1: to New York Giants select Josiah and Zudu guard North
Speaker 1: Carolina Cowboys visitor ry visit. Yeah, tell me about him, Bobby.
Speaker 1: I don't know what a thing about him. He was
Speaker 1: a Cowboys visitor. He had a confidence. No, no, I
Speaker 1: was just saying the Cowboys visitor Dan had him a
Speaker 1: player one oh one, but he was I think he
Speaker 1: was a late edition. There wasn't I hadn't heard a
Speaker 1: whole lot about a Zudu until the Cowboys popped him
Speaker 1: up on their visit list. He was six foot four,
Speaker 1: three hundred plus. I'm trying to find his measurables here
Speaker 1: as well. On my side, Brian, do you have him
Speaker 1: pulled up yet? Yeah? I was. I thought you were
Speaker 1: gonna do the honors. But I'll be happy to go
Speaker 1: for it. I'm trying to find it. Feel like it's
Speaker 1: kind of going that way. Uh no, uh the thing,
Speaker 1: I know, my gosh, I'm so I'm danger guys that
Speaker 1: I feel like I've done this for a living or
Speaker 1: something whatever. I'll just start reading Dane's guidance. We got
Speaker 1: we got this, guys. I just gotta get to I
Speaker 1: get a lot of all these guards that I got
Speaker 1: to take care of. Oh where do they have? Do
Speaker 1: they talk about him? And yeah? Look, I mean I
Speaker 1: I think personally though I'm your starter. At North Carolina,
Speaker 1: a Zudu played primarily at left guard and offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: for reading Dan, I'm not these are my original thoughts
Speaker 1: and one of y'all do this. I'm I'm baking a
Speaker 1: Cowboys take in my in my brain oven over here.
Speaker 1: If why is that. I'm I'm just he wasn't a
Speaker 1: combine invite? Was he a zudu? No? He was I
Speaker 1: he was here we go, I got I've got nine
Speaker 1: forty one seven eight. He's six forty three thirteen and
Speaker 1: he played left tackle and left uh left guard in
Speaker 1: the season. He looks more he really move. It looks
Speaker 1: the part he moves with the frame, athletic ability, he's
Speaker 1: able to reach. He locks down and defenders when he's
Speaker 1: zone blocks. He's got really strong hands when you watch
Speaker 1: him play, which which is a win for the offense.
Speaker 1: He's always in that position, you know when you know
Speaker 1: sometimes with your hands and your feet don't always work together.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't get overpower at contact. I mean, he
Speaker 1: is a guy that kind of can hold his own
Speaker 1: right there and sit down. That's what you want to
Speaker 1: be able to do. You want to be able to
Speaker 1: get those knees bent. I love the way the way
Speaker 1: he punches guys. I mean, I think that he's one
Speaker 1: of those guys that you have to kind of you know,
Speaker 1: he could play a couple of different spots. I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like that he's better as a guard than
Speaker 1: he would be as a tackle. He was honorable mentioned
Speaker 1: all acc and I mean you talk about a guy
Speaker 1: who can go back and forth position flex. That was
Speaker 1: a huge piece for this Cowboys team when looking at
Speaker 1: upgrading their offensive line. It's part of the reason why
Speaker 1: they brought him in as a potential visit and as
Speaker 1: a guy who spent time in the building, never played
Speaker 1: guard before he got to college, only filled in Initially.
Speaker 1: He was always going to be a tackle going to
Speaker 1: to Chapel Hill, and then he finally got there played
Speaker 1: some guard and they said, oh, we kind of like
Speaker 1: it the way that you play here. So I think
Speaker 1: that's where he's going to translate best heading into the NFL.
Speaker 1: But the Giants take a thirty visitor. That's the second
Speaker 1: NFC East team to take a thirty visitor here on
Speaker 1: Day two so far, Philadelphia taking Cam Jurgen's earlier in
Speaker 1: the second round as a potential guy. The Browns are
Speaker 1: on the clock at the moment. We're gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and take our break once again. You're listening to the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft on one to five three
Speaker 1: the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com, And we are
Speaker 1: back here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. You were starting
Speaker 1: to bake a Cowboys take. Do you want to save
Speaker 1: it for the radio? No, I don't care. I worked
Speaker 1: for DC dot com school fan all right, sorry, sorry
Speaker 1: the fan that was where the fan stream, yeah at all.
Speaker 1: Probably don't want you on next week? No please? Uh no,
Speaker 1: I just I I'm sitting here and like nobody is
Speaker 1: surprised by the Sam Williams pick. I think it was
Speaker 1: pretty clearly telegraphed. But going back to the whole thing
Speaker 1: about like who has swayed? Do you get your DC
Speaker 1: A guy? And I'm just I can't. I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel kind of like Brian right now, like taking
Speaker 1: things personally, like the fact that you can't figure out
Speaker 1: their thought process, And it just makes me think of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Remember twenty twenty when they just took the
Speaker 1: guy that everybody liked the most, like the whole way
Speaker 1: down the draft. Yeah, and we were so excited all
Speaker 1: the rough it was like it just felt like such
Speaker 1: an outlier, And now it feels like like we're back
Speaker 1: to the method that we're used to. And I wonder
Speaker 1: was that just a byproduct of nobody having any information
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. I know, but I think it's more
Speaker 1: a byproduct of is just for some reason the public's
Speaker 1: interests aligning with the scouting board because I coincidence, you
Speaker 1: look like. I mean, when we talk about they took
Speaker 1: Mike Parsons, who was their sixth ranked player, they took
Speaker 1: CD Lamb who was their sixth ranked player. Where did
Speaker 1: they take CD? Sixteen seventeen seventeen seventeen, so eleven spots
Speaker 1: that Tyler Smith was eight spots ahead of where they picked.
Speaker 1: They had him at sixteen and they picked him at
Speaker 1: twenty four. I mean, to them, it's a in terms
Speaker 1: of at least pick value to where your staff same
Speaker 1: exactly thing. Yeah, and I understand to see that we
Speaker 1: are what are the odds that every name that they
Speaker 1: took in twenty twenty was their guy and our guy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's wild, it is, but yeah, I mean it is.
Speaker 1: I think everybody, I think the ones where it's like
Speaker 1: this is our guy really the first two and then
Speaker 1: everybody just liked the other picks. But those first time
Speaker 1: about Gallimo, they were excited, But I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: was going, like, get Gallimore here. I think for the
Speaker 1: most the majority of people were like, Gallimore is at
Speaker 1: least one of the three best players available at this Okay,
Speaker 1: well then I was not saying that at the time.
Speaker 1: Sorry it was I was fine with it, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't like Galimore here, like, here's the Browns at sixties
Speaker 1: that Cleveland Browns are picking for the future. Uture's right,
Speaker 1: the sixty eight pick of the twenty two I was like,
Speaker 1: what is twenty three Super Bowl wing boy? Cleveland brown
Speaker 1: select Martin Everson defensive back? Missus Bryan's hey at I
Speaker 1: dead serious. When I heard it. I was like the
Speaker 1: same thing as he was, like why is this guy
Speaker 1: screaming like he's a wrestler, Like it's a promo and
Speaker 1: watch you watch TikTok that the mid your pick is me?
Speaker 1: That is it's miss As soon as it came around,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that made sense. We are four
Speaker 1: picks into the third round of the twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Here on one O five three, the fan
Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Brian brought us Bobby Belt
Speaker 1: David Hellman, I'm Kyle Yeoman's fort nerve from Kentucky. The
Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman goes to the Jags to start the round.
Speaker 1: Vikings take Brian asamoas the second out of Oklahoma. He's
Speaker 1: a linebacker. Joshua Zudo a thirty visit out of North Carolina,
Speaker 1: again interior offensive lineman. He goes to the divisional rival
Speaker 1: Giants and then the Browns, most recently taking Martin Emerson
Speaker 1: corner out of Mississippi State. Brian, you like Martin Emerson
Speaker 1: a lot. You and I fought for him in our
Speaker 1: mock draft earlier in the week. We didn't get done. However,
Speaker 1: what does he bring to the table from a cornerback standpoint?
Speaker 1: For its Cleveland. Yeah, And this was a guy when
Speaker 1: I initially watched him play, and he was one of
Speaker 1: the first guys that I was studying. And what I
Speaker 1: noticed about him, I was start to think about Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn type of players, and I thought about length, And
Speaker 1: this guy is six two, he's two hundred one pounds.
Speaker 1: He's a starter at left corner. We gotta go to
Speaker 1: the pick for the Titans. Heay real quick. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: Night two is where the real action happens. That's where
Speaker 1: I didn't even watch yesterday. Did I miss anything? Titans
Speaker 1: A pick sixty nine. Good with the sixty nine pick? Hello,
Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft, our Tennessee Titans select Nicholas petite Frere,
Speaker 1: tackle Ohio'll stay well, petite Frere another offensive tackle prospect
Speaker 1: out there. Do you want to finish up on Emerson? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Real quick. I mean, to me, this guy's got no
Speaker 1: problem with movement or running in coverage. I mean, for
Speaker 1: a tall guy, he's got some flexibility of this game.
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't take him much to turn and go,
Speaker 1: and so I was really really impressed with the way
Speaker 1: that he was. You know, it appeared that teams were
Speaker 1: kind of afraid to throw the ball his direction, and
Speaker 1: so I thought the reactions and stuff willing tackler didn't
Speaker 1: shy away with context. I really liked the player talking
Speaker 1: about Martin Emerson there. Now we're looking at Nicholas Petite
Speaker 1: Ferrere of Ohio state. You were going to say something
Speaker 1: about him. I'm from Louisiana. I can't let you keep
Speaker 1: saying Frere. Hey, he said it there, too, Okay, Frere Frere,
Speaker 1: petit Freres from Tampa. He's not from treat that is
Speaker 1: southern Louisiana, French ass name saying he's from I am
Speaker 1: I'm amused by an offensive tackle whose surname means little
Speaker 1: brother or Davis from Nolins. He knows what he's talking
Speaker 1: about it anyway. Sorry, okay, tell me about the player,
Speaker 1: by the way, tell me about the player. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: looking for the player right now. I'm a board here
Speaker 1: that is in by the way. Yeah, once we go
Speaker 1: to that real quick, we haven't neither not there yet,
Speaker 1: not there yet. Yeah, I got it. I'm like struggling. Finally,
Speaker 1: I got too many guys got to me. Now you
Speaker 1: can go. I got you go ahead, if you got
Speaker 1: the if you got him fired. Here we're rolling fast. Here.
Speaker 1: Here's the Jags. In a two thousand and twenty two
Speaker 1: NFL draft, the Jacksonville Jaguar select Chad Muma. Oh, that
Speaker 1: guy's trying not to get fired down there in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Another good pick where he was out of the Maybe
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson's evolved now with what's going on. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I love Doug too. Yeah, I mean, here's the guy
Speaker 1: you talk about. Let me real quick, if I could
Speaker 1: finish up the left tackle with from Ohio State. Though
Speaker 1: he's a wide basse player, he's you know, he's got
Speaker 1: good balance in position. I didn't see him getting knocked
Speaker 1: around or toss the side. Here's a really good job
Speaker 1: of working his man wide around that quarterback. He's going
Speaker 1: to stay after his block. He can hold his position.
Speaker 1: I didn't see this guy on the ground at all.
Speaker 1: He's got some power to himself in the running game
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. He didn't get much help from
Speaker 1: his teammates and executing blocks and movements. So he looks
Speaker 1: bigger weight wise than three or four, but moved skills.
Speaker 1: I think our top shelf. When you start to talk
Speaker 1: about him as a player, see Freyre there you go
Speaker 1: got it. That's not a great thanks man, Chad Muma
Speaker 1: though from Wyoming. You also were really high on him
Speaker 1: from a linebacker standpoint. He really stood out at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl as one of those quote unquote small school
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mean he's a group of
Speaker 1: five out Mountain West, but he really took over a
Speaker 1: lot of storylines down in Mobile. Yeah, he did. And
Speaker 1: he's relentless. I mean you just when you think he
Speaker 1: might be out of play, he finds his way back in.
Speaker 1: He's got a nose for the ball. He's not going
Speaker 1: to wow you with this applicability, but there's some sneakiness
Speaker 1: to his game. He's an outstanding wrap up tackler, super
Speaker 1: productive for Wyoming. He's disruptive as a blitzer. He'll lower's shoulder,
Speaker 1: He'll plow through blockers to get the quarterback. He's not
Speaker 1: going to be denied when it comes to getting that football.
Speaker 1: Where did you have him ranked? I had him on
Speaker 1: as a top fifty player. I really did. I think
Speaker 1: he's a fantastic player, and I'll go through my scouting
Speaker 1: report here as well. Downhill outside linebacker, he rarely misses tackles.
Speaker 1: It's there's not a whole lot of miss tackles on
Speaker 1: his tape. He's got a nose for the football, makes
Speaker 1: really quick reads from the second level, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: get caught out of position. That's one of the biggest
Speaker 1: things that I look at in linebackers is where are
Speaker 1: they in remote to the football. He always seems to
Speaker 1: be under control and he finds a way to get
Speaker 1: to it. That's one of the things about Chad Muma
Speaker 1: that stuck out to me. When he was doing the
Speaker 1: re drills on the field down in South Alabama. He
Speaker 1: was one step ahead of everybody else he was with
Speaker 1: at that second level. Just a next level player, had
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy nearly tackles throughout his career. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be maybe not an immediate starter, but
Speaker 1: somebody that will be in the rotation and make an
Speaker 1: impact pretty quickly throughout his NFL career. We're starting to
Speaker 1: get the national people on the Nakobe Dean trail. Rappaport's
Speaker 1: saying it's peck or at least the peck is a
Speaker 1: big part of why he's falling. That was this morning.
Speaker 1: That was like the first call at place to Brian
Speaker 1: this morning. I was like, I'm hearing Dean medical. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1: anytime like when something like this, when a fall like
Speaker 1: this happens, like it was it was Jay okay, last
Speaker 1: year it was jeremiahs going in the second though didn't
Speaker 1: do like the forties okay, but really good to be
Speaker 1: like a top twenty five. Yeah, but he was also
Speaker 1: I think at the time there was also a little
Speaker 1: bit of a factor. They're like, what do you do
Speaker 1: with the guy? Because I remember he was a football
Speaker 1: I get it, but you know how often teams do
Speaker 1: the whole what do you do with him? Things? Teams
Speaker 1: that do that are stupid. I hate hearing that I'd
Speaker 1: use your reserve for Saturday Day. Somebody, somebody, what do
Speaker 1: you what do you do with the honey Badger? You
Speaker 1: put him on the field and ask him to make plays.
Speaker 1: You find a way which is actually to bring it
Speaker 1: full circle back to Sam Williams. Maybe the reason I'm
Speaker 1: not as down on it as some other people is
Speaker 1: because I trust dan Quinn. I do That's dan Quinn
Speaker 1: Is like, I'm gonna do this. Yeah, some people. I
Speaker 1: thought Twitter, No, I thought Twitter looked pretty happy. I
Speaker 1: think most people's reaction is like, maybe not the guy
Speaker 1: I would have taken him, But that's fine. There's a
Speaker 1: funny Sam Williams quote after the Bears peck here. In
Speaker 1: the two thousand and twenty two NFL Draft, the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears select Faylus Jones. Did I tell you, guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I told you people were saying he could go in
Speaker 1: the third Wow. One of the first guy got him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it. One of the first guys that I watched. Speedy, versatile,
Speaker 1: y receiver. He plays outside, he plays inside, and he
Speaker 1: is an absolute burner of a kick returner, one of
Speaker 1: the best returners at least in terms of his numbers.
Speaker 1: He had over twenty eight hundred career kick return yards.
Speaker 1: He was one of the best in college football at
Speaker 1: doing so. Transferred from USC and he was a fantastic
Speaker 1: returner in the Pack twelve. Then he goes to Tennessee
Speaker 1: and he was the SEC Special Teams Player of the year.
Speaker 1: He's going to provide an inside out presence for any
Speaker 1: wide receiver corps that he was going to go to.
Speaker 1: And now he goes to the Bears. I think this
Speaker 1: is a guy that they can use on a number
Speaker 1: of different levels. And hey, I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: fitting he goes to the Bears. Did they give him
Speaker 1: a number twenty three and let that thing roll? Because
Speaker 1: they've had some pretty good returners in their franchise history
Speaker 1: as well. This guy looks like a running back. A
Speaker 1: wide receiver is what he looks like, and he could
Speaker 1: be a difficult guy to knock off his feet. He
Speaker 1: has rare feel and vision for where to see the field,
Speaker 1: where to make the cuts. He does a great job
Speaker 1: at catching the ball on the move. He plays a
Speaker 1: lot in the slot, so you'll see him executing different
Speaker 1: routes in order to get open. Is a burner up
Speaker 1: the field. When he gets a step, he's gone. There's
Speaker 1: time with the quarterback was a little shaky, but he
Speaker 1: came down with the ball one of the best. I said,
Speaker 1: this kickoff and punt returned men in the country. Like
Speaker 1: Kyle said, all he needs is a little space, and
Speaker 1: this guy's going to turn the game around. He is
Speaker 1: a guy that the because we talked about how he
Speaker 1: was in the slot a lot. That's pretty much where
Speaker 1: he lined up. The only times he was outside is
Speaker 1: when he was either getting a smoke route or he
Speaker 1: was blocking for a smoke route. That's pretty much where
Speaker 1: he lined up. But this is a guy who the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl was huge for NFL teams with him because
Speaker 1: there was limited route tree at Tennessee. This is just
Speaker 1: what you heard chatter among on teams. Limited route tree
Speaker 1: at Tennessee. You didn't get to see a lot. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like the Baylor question at times with guys
Speaker 1: like what are they doing out there on the field
Speaker 1: When they got to see him line up in these
Speaker 1: one on ones and win with his releases and do
Speaker 1: some more exotic things off the line of scrimmage. I
Speaker 1: think that made teams feel much better about the projection,
Speaker 1: So Senior Bowls. This is a big Senior Bowl push
Speaker 1: I think for him. Yeah, I did at twenty four
Speaker 1: on twenty four lists on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We're
Speaker 1: on the twenty fourth of every month. I put a
Speaker 1: name or I put twenty four names out there that
Speaker 1: could fit. He was on my first list after the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl because of that, because of the way he
Speaker 1: dominated the one on ones, He went up against good coverage,
Speaker 1: He did a number of different things, and then you
Speaker 1: just look at the special team side of things. He's
Speaker 1: going to do a lot for that that bears special
Speaker 1: teams unit. I really do like this pick. I didn't
Speaker 1: have him as highly rated as a lot of other
Speaker 1: a lot of the other receivers that have already gone. However,
Speaker 1: I still think this is a solid pick and a
Speaker 1: great fit for him moving outward. To shout out to
Speaker 1: Jim naggy Man, I mean the Senior Bowl rosters have
Speaker 1: been good for a while now, but I mean they're
Speaker 1: dominating right now. If I had to guess, I kind
Speaker 1: of want to go look and see if I can
Speaker 1: figure this out. But like at least at least like
Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen Senior Bowl guys have gotten picked here
Speaker 1: in the time. I think Williams a late call up there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and well if you add guys like that, and then um,
Speaker 1: it was either Dotson or Brisker one of the Penn
Speaker 1: State guys pulled out. I don't remember what it was
Speaker 1: Brisker that pulled out. So I mean, if you include
Speaker 1: stuff like that, we're kind of stretching it just just
Speaker 1: off of offensive guys alone. Eleven is when I'm at
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. Fourteen. Oh, there's a lot of edge rushers.
Speaker 1: Almost all the Senior Bowl edge rushers have been selected.
Speaker 1: They do an awesome job of getting the badasses to
Speaker 1: go down there and compete. Good for them. These quarterbacks
Speaker 1: have to be sick right now. You just looking at
Speaker 1: the names and you start Willis Corral, how Ritter? I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk about some serious twenty four names, twenty four
Speaker 1: guys taken in the top seventy five. Who's who's the
Speaker 1: next to go? Man, that's a good question because I
Speaker 1: kind of feel the way I haven't. I haven't Willis
Speaker 1: Corral and how and then Ritter in the third right.
Speaker 1: So so so that's how it would not because and
Speaker 1: I think you can follow a stack like that when
Speaker 1: you're talking about we're looking at first rounds all the guys,
Speaker 1: when when it's so clear the league is down on
Speaker 1: them as top prospects. I think now you're looking at
Speaker 1: more like, Okay, who have these guys fits a scenario
Speaker 1: or a team that may pick it? And that's why
Speaker 1: I just sit there and go like, Okay, So even
Speaker 1: though willis maybe higher or Ritter or whatever else, is
Speaker 1: Corral a better fit for a certain team that would
Speaker 1: be more likely to go quarterback first? Is what is
Speaker 1: kind of what I'm saying. So that's just kind of
Speaker 1: what I'm looking through and try to figure I have
Speaker 1: said all along, and I know again this is an
Speaker 1: island I'm on. I always really liked Carson Strong from Nevada. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not wrong about that guy. Strong outside the kid
Speaker 1: got the and this is not a great comparison given
Speaker 1: how things went from last year. There's a little bit
Speaker 1: of that yolo ball like Zach Wilson, like Jordan love
Speaker 1: Gun slinger to him, and I just I love it
Speaker 1: that he is. I like the moxi and I understand
Speaker 1: he's got a knee issue too. Yeah he's not as
Speaker 1: mobile as Yeah, he's got a problem where Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: had this knee injury a couple of times. It's like
Speaker 1: it doesn't I think he's off some team supports, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the growth or something in the I think I put
Speaker 1: it in my notes. It's it's something that he's had
Speaker 1: to deal with. Ye that keeps kind of recurring for him.
Speaker 1: But he's a hell of a player. Seahawks on the board. Now,
Speaker 1: could they potentially still go to a quarterback at seventy two?
Speaker 1: That's you? That's your Guy's my guy? Oh he's got it?
Speaker 1: Is it Shorts? It is Shorts with the seventy second
Speaker 1: pick in a two thy twenty two NFL draft, the
Speaker 1: Seattle Sea Abraham Lucas tackle good Sky. John's clearly out
Speaker 1: of the room. Has he been out of the room
Speaker 1: for every pick? I think I think somebody's trip John
Speaker 1: into getting out of the room other than the Kenneth
Speaker 1: Walker picks. Didn't let him in for Yeah, did they
Speaker 1: let him in for Kenneth Walker? And he's got some
Speaker 1: linemen to run? Yeah, he came back in. He came
Speaker 1: back in for the running back pick. And now they're drafting, Hey,
Speaker 1: they finally, I mean somewhere Russell Wilson, like seriously, like
Speaker 1: he's got in Colorado a twenty five million dollars home going.
Speaker 1: What's all these offensive linemen they're drafting here right now?
Speaker 1: I think I think it was Bran. I think you're
Speaker 1: the lord who said it in one of the draft shows,
Speaker 1: and it's totally accurate that if if you want to
Speaker 1: feel good about Drake Jackson, don't watch him against Abraham Lucas.
Speaker 1: Don't watch that tape exactly. This is now, this is
Speaker 1: a this is a really nice pack. I you know,
Speaker 1: I had him as one of my top top tackles
Speaker 1: in the third round, though. I mean, I kind of
Speaker 1: felt like the guy was maybe even a better run
Speaker 1: blocker than he was past That's maybe why they drafted him,
Speaker 1: because there's that run blocking ability, that element to his game.
Speaker 1: So Pete was probably all They're going on, need another
Speaker 1: run blocker, you know, one of those things, and as
Speaker 1: they take this kid, he's a heck away. I love
Speaker 1: this player, I really really do. John John is having
Speaker 1: a decent draft. Like him credit he's one of the
Speaker 1: most experienced and underrated or underappreciated blockers. I feel like
Speaker 1: in the class he logged over twenty one hundred snaps
Speaker 1: as a pass blocker alone. Here's the gold selection as
Speaker 1: they pick in the third round, seventy third overall, and
Speaker 1: we got a little bit of a lady. What is
Speaker 1: happening is that two people on top of the ten
Speaker 1: letters crash? Is this this is a what do we do? No?
Speaker 1: This is a bit that they will have cut away.
Speaker 1: Person went on, this is a stupid bit. With the
Speaker 1: seventy third pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Cults select Jaylanie Woods, Virginia, the key Boyos.
Speaker 1: You'd never heard of them, TikTok famous. I thought you
Speaker 1: would be on the on that thing. I'm not on.
Speaker 1: Dave and I have trained our algorithms well to not
Speaker 1: know the existing coming. Yeah, that's stretch. I think TikTok
Speaker 1: can be whatever you wanted. One dude looked like he
Speaker 1: was hurt. Not the Island boys. I don't care. It's
Speaker 1: kind of this thing. I'm sad about this one. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask you, this is this gonna be the
Speaker 1: run where we start the tight ends? Maybe? Is this
Speaker 1: where it's gonna happen now because you got all these guys. One, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got, you know, the UCLA kid, you got Oughton Rucker,
Speaker 1: I mean Kohler. I mean, those are the guys that
Speaker 1: I'm kind of talking about. I've said it multiple times too.
Speaker 1: If there's a run that starts on tight ends. Watched
Speaker 1: Bellinger from San Diego State going there too. Yeah, Plan's
Speaker 1: usually really good player too. You're right about that. There
Speaker 1: are fourteen picks from now until the Cowboys select at
Speaker 1: eighty eight. Could they be looking at tight end? We're
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and step aside. That's a potential on
Speaker 1: the way. Atlanta is on the clock, followed by the
Speaker 1: Broncos and the Ravens. You're listening to the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two NFL Draft on one of five three the Fan
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Thank you, Justin guaring Back.
Speaker 1: You're on the internet side. Gilanni Woods. We're looking at
Speaker 1: some of his highlights, one of the more physically imposing
Speaker 1: players in the draft. Let's hear what the Falcons had
Speaker 1: before we talk about Jilani two NFL Draft. The Atlanta
Speaker 1: Falcons select Desmond Ritter quarterback. So there it is. We go.
Speaker 1: Good for them waiting all the way at seventy four
Speaker 1: and still getting one. Yeah, right, didn't have to really
Speaker 1: trade up for anybody. Do we want to talk about
Speaker 1: Jelani Woods? First, we've got footage of Desmond Ridder. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about Desmond Ridder here, second quarterback off the board
Speaker 1: nine god as they call him what he calls him
Speaker 1: that I call him that. Why Bobby's getting restless? Don't
Speaker 1: take the throw back? Hey, this is I'm not. I
Speaker 1: love that. This is one of the winning his quarterbacks
Speaker 1: at NSA history. His kid's forty four and five as
Speaker 1: during his career. He's his physically, he's good look at
Speaker 1: a player, ideal quarterback build, nice mobility, elusiveness in the pocket.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. He'll move around in order to
Speaker 1: buy himself some chances downfield. I think he does a
Speaker 1: great job of keeping his eyes down the field. He's
Speaker 1: been a hiss ability to make some of those special
Speaker 1: throws and clutch situations to help his team. A ton
Speaker 1: of experience. He'll take the snap and then quickly get
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands. They're snaps where he's
Speaker 1: right on the money and the others with the ball's
Speaker 1: not really close. He's got a big arm. He's capable
Speaker 1: making all the throws, but it's not always the most
Speaker 1: accurate of those, so as there's time where he sets
Speaker 1: his feet and will deliver, and then the next time
Speaker 1: it's the same situation and he'll miss for no reason.
Speaker 1: So I kind of felt like he threw the ball
Speaker 1: well enough on the move though. At the third round
Speaker 1: pick though, Atlanta, they probably got a guy right here
Speaker 1: that maybe some people had a little bit higher, but
Speaker 1: we're probably afraid to take a shot at over twelve
Speaker 1: thousand total yards in or at least offensive yards. And
Speaker 1: then he had one hundred and thirteen career touchdowns, which
Speaker 1: is the most in school history and an American Athletic
Speaker 1: Conference history at the same time. I mean, it's hard
Speaker 1: to find a player that single handedly had as much
Speaker 1: of an impact on a program as Desmond Ritter did.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can argue that, yes, there are other
Speaker 1: players out there. There are the ma J Sanders and
Speaker 1: the Darian Beavers, and there's plenty of talent off of
Speaker 1: that Cincinnati team Brian Cook that have already gone a
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter might be the ring leader of all of that.
Speaker 1: He did so much to get to that program to
Speaker 1: where they are at the moment as a college football
Speaker 1: playoff specific team, and the fact that he's the second
Speaker 1: quarterback off the board. It wouldn't have gone with my rankings.
Speaker 1: I still would have gone with Malik Willis. But it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily surprising because I think this is a great
Speaker 1: fit for Atlanta. I, like I said earlier, like the
Speaker 1: fact that they were willing to be patient and just
Speaker 1: let a quarterback come to them. That's a terrible comparison, Dak.
Speaker 1: Did they really? Yes? Interesting? I don't know. They just
Speaker 1: threw up there. Are you a Dak homer? Bobby's that
Speaker 1: what you're telling us right now? No, I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a homer for great football players. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess so a great football play. No. I like the
Speaker 1: original comparison they threw up there, which is Mariota. Mariota
Speaker 1: I think is a good comp I had Alex Smith
Speaker 1: as my comp which is interesting because that's his competition now.
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, interesting. Yeah, with Mariota over in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So he looks like he's all business. It's that's a
Speaker 1: he's got a family, and I think his family life
Speaker 1: when he was growing up was not great, so that's
Speaker 1: why it's important to him now. His wife, he's got
Speaker 1: the daughter and all that. I mean, every he you know,
Speaker 1: good for him. It's been a long wait for these guys.
Speaker 1: If you want to make a Dak Prescott comparison with
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter, just to what NFL teams would say about
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter, it's the intangibles and it's the leadership, that's
Speaker 1: the football character and like that is a fit where
Speaker 1: people just look at him and go like that he's
Speaker 1: got and it's such a silly thing that I know
Speaker 1: people hate the it factor that exists to me for quarterback,
Speaker 1: and so I think you could say that about Ritter.
Speaker 1: I think it does exist. I'm right there with you
Speaker 1: going back to him sort of being the right ask
Speaker 1: for the program. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dak were inaccurate? Was
Speaker 1: he college? Dak win accurate? In college? We are at
Speaker 1: pick number seventy five of the twenty twenty two NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: We're in the third round and the Texans are on
Speaker 1: the clocks. Here's their selections. Have traded to seventy seventy
Speaker 1: fifth pick to the Houston Texans. With the seventy fifth
Speaker 1: pick in the two thou twenty two NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans select Christian Harris, linebacker for another Alabama really
Speaker 1: good players. Houston continues to just pick top notch defenders.
Speaker 1: They had Jalen Petrie early on. Houston's got a pretty
Speaker 1: nice class going. It definitely happens when you pick at
Speaker 1: the top. Well, yeah, good point. They didn't steal ken
Speaker 1: Yon Green from the Cowboys. There was a time where
Speaker 1: they didn't get to pick at all. Yeah, for yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. But now they've got a couple guys to
Speaker 1: play with. Tell me about Christian Harris, six foot linebacker,
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty six pounds. Brian, Well, you gotta
Speaker 1: give me some more time to do so, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of stretch this thing out. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stretch it for you and I'm gonna sit want to
Speaker 1: They want me to teach you control f Brian? Oh,
Speaker 1: is that what we do? Yes? I that alright, Christian
Speaker 1: Christian Harris, that's the pro. I got a lot of
Speaker 1: f But I mean it's not really taking any commercial breaks.
Speaker 1: You can't be like yeah, I'm like yeah here, well
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, I'm gonna need a big Miller light when
Speaker 1: this one's done. All right. It's one of those linebackers.
Speaker 1: It's always around the ball man. This guy makes a
Speaker 1: ton of tackles because of his burst and his clothes,
Speaker 1: he can cover some ground. The bit movement is part
Speaker 1: of his game. I mean he's like Sayies two twenty six.
Speaker 1: I mean even if he's late reading to play the
Speaker 1: burst to make that up, he's a physical player when
Speaker 1: it comes to that finish ballcare stop in their tracks
Speaker 1: when they're struck by This guy's best trade is coming
Speaker 1: downhill and attacking the ball. I've seen him drop into coverage,
Speaker 1: but more than that, he could play kind of up
Speaker 1: and around the line. He's a better chance making plays
Speaker 1: that way. The movement, skills, void blocks, all that stuff
Speaker 1: is a big time when you look at this football player.
Speaker 1: Three years starter for the Crimson Tide, which is interesting
Speaker 1: because you don't really see a ton of players go
Speaker 1: and start for Alabama three straight years because it's normally
Speaker 1: they sit for a couple of years and then they
Speaker 1: taken over the starting job and then they're drafted into
Speaker 1: the NFL. He's been there for three years, put up
Speaker 1: great numbers, and you talk about outside of maybe a
Speaker 1: couple of broken tackles here and there, his speed, his
Speaker 1: athleticism and his frame. He's versatile. He could do a
Speaker 1: lot of different things on a defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: I think you can get again, I bring this up
Speaker 1: with some guys occasionally, but you can get a good read.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes about a player and what they have
Speaker 1: between the ears or their work ethic or whatever. When
Speaker 1: you talked about how they prepared for the pre draft process,
Speaker 1: that was something that concerns some people. I think when
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton went home and sat down and didn't make
Speaker 1: work that last night. When and so with that being said,
Speaker 1: I always like to talk to facilities around the league
Speaker 1: and just say like, hey, who were your hard workers?
Speaker 1: Who were you guys who stand out? His name came
Speaker 1: up for a lot of people that Christian Harris. Harris
Speaker 1: was one of the hardest workers in the entire group,
Speaker 1: and that he's somebody who came in and was like
Speaker 1: first one in, last one out, always looking for extra work,
Speaker 1: always asking the skills trainer to put in some extra time,
Speaker 1: see if they could do some extra stuff. He works
Speaker 1: really really hard, you know the thing about it. But
Speaker 1: they're people that will say those Alabama players are a
Speaker 1: little beat up. They come into the league a little
Speaker 1: year work at a lot of war down I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of extra games. He may be one of
Speaker 1: a lot of extra games in those bodies with playoff
Speaker 1: games and bowl games and championship games and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, and they practice really hard at
Speaker 1: the ADA hit Alabama because of Nick Saban, So maybe
Speaker 1: some wear and tear on some of these Alabama kids.
Speaker 1: Interesting because he was a high school receiver and a
Speaker 1: defensive back and then he moved to linebacker and then
Speaker 1: he starts forty and forty one games for Alabama and
Speaker 1: it was a freshman All American. That's the That's a
Speaker 1: great point because it kind of going back to what
Speaker 1: I was saying. You don't see a lot of players
Speaker 1: last three years through that program and not go to
Speaker 1: the NFL. Is he beat up or is he no?
Speaker 1: I think he no. No. You just have to know
Speaker 1: when you take these Alabama kids that there's wear and
Speaker 1: tear on those bodies because they practice hard. There's people,
Speaker 1: I mean, there are people who tell you when Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli was here, those defensive linemen were like, oh man,
Speaker 1: this dude's taken years off my life the way he practices.
Speaker 1: And I mean nothing when they switched over from that.
Speaker 1: There were some happy Campeah. Nothing wrong with hard practicing,
Speaker 1: nothing wrong without defense. Defensive lineman used to you talk
Speaker 1: to him, the logger. They would say the games felt
Speaker 1: easy to them because they were like we were getting
Speaker 1: run down during the way. Let's reset the board here
Speaker 1: real quickly, while we have an opportunity. Seventy one, the
Speaker 1: Bears take Vellas Jones, junior wide receiver out of Tennessee Faylas.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Abraham Lucas offensive tackle Washington State from the
Speaker 1: Seahawks as he is on the way to Seattle. The
Speaker 1: Colts select jo Lonnie Woods tight end from Virginia, Desmond
Speaker 1: Ritter quarterback from Cincinnati, and then Christian Harris or excuse me,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati quarterback. Desmond Ritter goes to the Falcons. And then
Speaker 1: you've got the Houston Texans selecting Christian Harris linebacker from Alabama.
Speaker 1: It's the Vikings on the clock at the moment, followed
Speaker 1: by the Colts, the Browns, and the Chargers. Still about
Speaker 1: what would that be? That would be twelve picks away
Speaker 1: from the Dallas Cowboys at eighty eighth overall. Jalen Tolbert
Speaker 1: is still on the board. It's about to ask that question.
Speaker 1: You see this happen sometimes. Probably we got a no
Speaker 1: hitter going shop. Superstitions are so weak. Maybe you could
Speaker 1: leave now, although I don't know it's because we're talking
Speaker 1: about superstitions. As soon as Brian took a sip of beer,
Speaker 1: he couldn't up as scouting reports. Since have you noticed
Speaker 1: that I've never had I've never had When it happened,
Speaker 1: Brian never had beer in a war, in a draft,
Speaker 1: took a photo of his board with his phone. Like
Speaker 1: the man just isn't technologically savvy. Let's not chalk it
Speaker 1: up the superstition, I will say, is this the start?
Speaker 1: Is is this the start of the conversation of using
Speaker 1: one of those fifth round picks? How far could that
Speaker 1: get you where? That doesn't need to though, like if
Speaker 1: you're twelve picks out, and I mean Tolberd has not
Speaker 1: gone yet, and I think there are several tight ends
Speaker 1: they would like just in the entrance of answering answering
Speaker 1: your question. And again, these charts are not reliable. I
Speaker 1: feel like I always, by the way, I'm very surprised
Speaker 1: to Marvin Leal has not gone yet. True seventy six
Speaker 1: or twelve spots. Uh, you're talking about like a sixty
Speaker 1: or seventy point difference. Here's the Ravens at seventy six.
Speaker 1: Charles oybody doing, We got some Ravens fans out there? Nope,
Speaker 1: all right, block, here we go. With a seventy sixth
Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand twenty two NFL Drafts Ravens
Speaker 1: select Travis Jones defense. I knew this was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: They didn't get Jordan Davis Jones. I knew this was
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I knew it. I mean, I'm not even
Speaker 1: sitting in their building, and I knew this was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's the Ravens. It's the Ravens. For God's sake, I
Speaker 1: wish I worked for the Ravens. Brian's is all about.
Speaker 1: I love the color purple. We already have it. We
Speaker 1: already have so much movie or the actual color. This
Speaker 1: guy is that a Ravens? Is that guy a Ravens?
Speaker 1: Tell me about that? Tell me about that guy? Davis
Speaker 1: tears in his eyes. He's right, though, it is so.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey were coming back for break and you were like,
Speaker 1: we usually like, well, who do you think the Ravens
Speaker 1: would like to get. I was gonna say, the guy
Speaker 1: that's been mammoth dude just like can play it like inside,
Speaker 1: like Hellodi Nada and everybody else they've ever had. It's
Speaker 1: so damn big inside. These guys sit there, they're just like,
Speaker 1: h the league's pretty stupid. Well, let's take this Travis Chows.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Nobody'll take him? We
Speaker 1: had second round grades on him. What are we sitting
Speaker 1: right now there out? He doesn't work, He's hanging out. God,
Speaker 1: he's hanging out. I'm not so worried about people were
Speaker 1: talking about him as a late first or maybe mocking
Speaker 1: him to Dallas. How many mocks did I have to
Speaker 1: see with that guy's and if even if that wasn't
Speaker 1: right because of his role, you know, you gotta worry
Speaker 1: about that with nose tackles. But I for sure would
Speaker 1: have guessed he's like a top fifty pick and they
Speaker 1: get him in seventy five. Can we talk about the
Speaker 1: Ravens draft real quick? Incredible? Kyle Hamilton, Tyler Linderbomb, David A.
Speaker 1: Jabo as Jones. There, that's their draft. There should be
Speaker 1: a trophy for the way that you navigate the draft,
Speaker 1: and the Ravens should win it more often than not.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Bernard Ryman, central Michigan tackle
Speaker 1: goes to the Colts, his slip falls. I mean, there
Speaker 1: were opportunities throughout the at least they were thought processes
Speaker 1: throughout the draft looking at the tight end there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the left side for the NFL network side. But
Speaker 1: he's put on sixty pounds. He's an offensive tackle. Some
Speaker 1: teams thought he could slip into the back half of
Speaker 1: the first round, maybe early second, but he ends up
Speaker 1: here at pick number seventy seven. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: this kid I watched. I watched two SEC games, one
Speaker 1: of them against David mys Alma Mater Ellis and you
Speaker 1: and Missouri, and he did not play bad in either
Speaker 1: one of those games. So I kind of like that
Speaker 1: about him there. I mean, Okay, here's one of these
Speaker 1: guys that I'm gonna say lacks power, right when Broadest
Speaker 1: lacks power, He's gonna be a Pro bowler next year.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, I have no I have no understanding
Speaker 1: of the the tackle. The lad there is that already
Speaker 1: signing with the Dolphins' wrong, We're losing it here on
Speaker 1: the No. I'm just saying, though true that this guy
Speaker 1: if you look at him, though, it happens those the
Speaker 1: guys like the Packers there there guy, you know, the
Speaker 1: guy at the at the raid, David backtr Colt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: counting this kid being a Pro Bowl player because he
Speaker 1: lacks power. But I mean I I said, I I
Speaker 1: thought there was some recovery with this guning down my face.
Speaker 1: What you know what my favorite I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's the chair. When we take the chair away,
Speaker 1: Brian gets more demonstrative. And there's some teams that know
Speaker 1: how to draft. That's all I'm saying here the browning
Speaker 1: and speaking I made the gonna pick a quarterback here?
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Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select
Speaker 1: Alex Wright defensive end U A B M Alex Right
Speaker 1: and Tresser from U A breem late not I don't
Speaker 1: know if I actually have a full scouting report. I
Speaker 1: added him to my list really late in the process.
Speaker 1: I do have some notes on him, just in passing
Speaker 1: second team a Conference USA. Came off the edge in
Speaker 1: a hybrid three four scheme. He lined outside, he lied inside.
Speaker 1: They kind of used him all over, and he was
Speaker 1: extremely intimidating in his size up against the Conference USA competition.
Speaker 1: Six foot five, two hundred and seventy pounds. He's got
Speaker 1: some bend off the edge. Not crazy strong, nor is
Speaker 1: he crazy athletic, but he's he just knows how to
Speaker 1: be in the right spot coming off of that edge,
Speaker 1: and he dominated on a couple of occasions. You're looking
Speaker 1: at highlights with him against UTAP and against North Texas
Speaker 1: and he's blowing up some of the better offensive tackles
Speaker 1: that was in that conference. And yeah, somebody I think
Speaker 1: fits in the middle rounds. This might have been a
Speaker 1: little early for me, but I still like him overall.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. This guy's got some impressive length.
Speaker 1: He's six five, he's two seventy one. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: felt like he was a little hot and cold in
Speaker 1: the way he played. He will win and then he's
Speaker 1: gone for four or five plays. Cowboys had a guy
Speaker 1: like that our board from Kansas, you know that our
Speaker 1: defensive end that he kind of runs a little hot
Speaker 1: and cold. This is this is one of those guys
Speaker 1: that you know when you watch him play, when he's on,
Speaker 1: he could be really, really, really good. But think the
Speaker 1: things that bother me. There's times you see him getting
Speaker 1: knocked around. I wish he was a little bit more
Speaker 1: stout holding his ground. You would think that the link
Speaker 1: would be able to hold up. I've seen him be
Speaker 1: able to capture the corner, you know, finish, get a sack.
Speaker 1: But I felt like his opponents they kind of knew
Speaker 1: where he was. You know, he had to face his
Speaker 1: share of double teams, but he also had some one
Speaker 1: on one opportunities to win more. I saw him kind
Speaker 1: of some slow play and then there would be a
Speaker 1: burst and chase. So kind of a guy that learns
Speaker 1: a little bit hot and cold. For you right now,
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see these edge rushers going here and
Speaker 1: now the Cowboys of course have their edge rusher and
Speaker 1: Sam Williams already selected. You thought maybe he could have
Speaker 1: lasted the eighty eight, But a couple of them have
Speaker 1: gone since that pick happened. But wide receivers still very
Speaker 1: much so in play. Tight ends still very much so
Speaker 1: in play your nine selections in between you and your
Speaker 1: pick at eighty eight. He set the board a little
Speaker 1: bit for me. When you're looking at it, Dave, you
Speaker 1: look at these wide receivers. Is Jaylen Tilbert since he
Speaker 1: was in the conversation early, is he the front runner here?
Speaker 1: If he stays on the board, I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be really happy if they get there and he's sitting
Speaker 1: there because he was in play at fifty six, I
Speaker 1: think that's safe to say, right, yes, heavily in play.
Speaker 1: I would say, does anyone of these tight ends do
Speaker 1: anything over him, like the Ottons or anything. So we've
Speaker 1: got news they liked McBride more than that OTON know
Speaker 1: about Woodston. Is Otton's a name? What was your part?
Speaker 1: I don't think they like I don't think they like him.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the one who I've heard him
Speaker 1: as like a bailout sort of name Bellinger. Brian hates
Speaker 1: that term, Daniel Bellinger. I've heard dulcach as like, well,
Speaker 1: if we're wife kind of, I kind of got the
Speaker 1: vite man. Maybe how are you wiped if Tilbert's there? No, No,
Speaker 1: not at all. But if you're just if you're just
Speaker 1: asking me for a list of names to keep in
Speaker 1: mind as the pick gets close, Um, that'd be a
Speaker 1: round early guy for me. But man, what a player.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I see another receiver that I
Speaker 1: like there, I would Talbert I think is the standout.
Speaker 1: Now it's it's funny I was looking at her. So
Speaker 1: just off off Dane's board, his highest reminting players Malik
Speaker 1: Willis obviously, So if you go non Malik Willis, non quarterback,
Speaker 1: you've got Daryan Kinnard, Perry On Winfrey, Jamari Sawyer. Uh
Speaker 1: see this gets it gets back Janal Talbert. So so
Speaker 1: outside of just like we're talking about trench guys and
Speaker 1: and the linebacker Janale, it's Talbert that's the highest graded
Speaker 1: guy left for Dane. This gets back into the question
Speaker 1: the debate we've been having all weekend about need and
Speaker 1: how you prioritize things like Winfrey at eighty eight seems
Speaker 1: like really good value to me. I don't do you
Speaker 1: all agree with that? I wrong about that. I think
Speaker 1: that's crazy good value. But I also would be surprised
Speaker 1: if they draft a d tackle on a two for
Speaker 1: the fourth straight year. And I get it, the other
Speaker 1: ones aren't necessarily stars, but you got to allocate resource.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like they have. I think they
Speaker 1: feel good about the futures of Osa and Gallant I
Speaker 1: and I agree, and so adding a third in there
Speaker 1: does seem a little tin. It's a crowded room, but
Speaker 1: it's a deep draft. If they go, man, we got
Speaker 1: so many darts and let's just go with the top guy,
Speaker 1: like we've we've seen scenario. It happened last year with
Speaker 1: Jabril Cox, where for like pick, we like round after
Speaker 1: round we were like this, maybe this is where they
Speaker 1: do it, Maybe it's here, And it took all the
Speaker 1: way to the fourth round before it happened. Yeah, Chargers
Speaker 1: at seventy nine. It was good. I see y'all people
Speaker 1: with the seventy With the seventy ninth pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty second NFL Draft, the Los Angeles Chargers sleg JT.
Speaker 1: Woods defensive back Baylor. Let's go sweet, didn't we give
Speaker 1: him in like the fifth and not not saying the
Speaker 1: mock draft is out. Our mock looks insane. I mean
Speaker 1: we had Valis Jones too, like on day three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we look like really smart people right now, that's the
Speaker 1: one I'm going that's the one I'm gonna dunk on
Speaker 1: the most because no one else will say less like
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't feel bad about that, because that's
Speaker 1: what we keep saying, is like, these grades are gonna
Speaker 1: be crazy. There's no consensus in this very deep draft,
Speaker 1: and it's it's bearing out. I mean, on the on
Speaker 1: one hand, you've got Vleis Jones going in the top
Speaker 1: one hundred, and then again, um, I'm already I'm blanking
Speaker 1: on his name, Travis Jones hanging out here in the
Speaker 1: seventies when people thought he would be a top forty pick,
Speaker 1: and then you've gotten a Kobe Dean doing what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Maybe Dean is that's oh yeah, I didn't even like
Speaker 1: include na Kobe. Right well, somebody's gonna take the new
Speaker 1: report from Austin Gale at PFF is like he declined
Speaker 1: to have surgery on whatever his issue is. Okay, and
Speaker 1: so okay, he's suffering for it now. He doesn't think
Speaker 1: he may he doesn't think he needs it, and the
Speaker 1: league is like, yeah, we want you to get it.
Speaker 1: And now you know, maybe he could be missing playing
Speaker 1: time because of it. I don't know. His agent needs
Speaker 1: to get on the phone and tell people he's gonna
Speaker 1: have surgery. As soon as this drafts over with. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about J. T. Woods for a little bit here
Speaker 1: another the Broncos Easter. Oh yeah, the Broncos are up
Speaker 1: here at pick number eighty. We'll get back to Woods
Speaker 1: in a second. So let Greg dulsitch. Yeah, there we
Speaker 1: go to worry about fake pen throw Brian No. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean I like the player, but I mean I
Speaker 1: know they don't. That's I mean I was trying. I
Speaker 1: just got that vibe in talking to them that they
Speaker 1: kind of had others, like, uh, the Oughton and the
Speaker 1: Woods and the Rucker and those guys maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit more than this guy. He goes off the board
Speaker 1: to the Denver Broncos. Dember Broncos at pick number eighty.
Speaker 1: Let's step aside. We'll talk about Greg Dulchitz and whether
Speaker 1: or not that was an actual Cowboys target. When we
Speaker 1: come back with more NFL Draft coverage on one h
Speaker 1: five three the Fan in del Cowboys dot Com, that's
Speaker 1: the Noah Fant replacement pretty quick, right, Yeah, back to
Speaker 1: Noah Fant and Brian him to Seattle, right yeah, uh, Brian,
Speaker 1: Now you got to replace Drew Lock. You're talking. Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: you're talking about After that joke, I didn't feel like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were really as high on him as every day.
Speaker 1: Where are you going? Okay, we're on the way to
Speaker 1: raise your hand or get a note, please, it's my
Speaker 1: terrible joke about Drew Lock. He's like, I can't hear
Speaker 1: the Giants they're picking already. Here we go, we're cooking man.
Speaker 1: In the two thousand twenty two NFL Draft, the New
Speaker 1: York Giant select Cordell fly offensive back. Do you know
Speaker 1: anything about him because I don't necessarily. Yeah, he's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. It's funny because he does
Speaker 1: give up a lot of place. I'm really surprised. I
Speaker 1: mean we're seeing, like on the highlights they're showing of
Speaker 1: him getting interceptions. But there are times where you look
Speaker 1: at him play and he is a slightly built guy,
Speaker 1: and you know, people tend to bully him. On the outside.
Speaker 1: They're showing some really nice highlights of him stepping up
Speaker 1: and making some tackles and stuff like that, but that's,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, was really few and far
Speaker 1: between with this particular player. I kind of felt like
Speaker 1: that he was a guy that because of his size,
Speaker 1: he might get picked on a little bit. I think
Speaker 1: people will take routes inside on him, and he's not
Speaker 1: really interested in trying to shut that down. He is
Speaker 1: six foot, he's one seventy five. He is really a
Speaker 1: slightly built guy. I think you can. I think you
Speaker 1: can run routes on him inside and he's not going
Speaker 1: to defend you all that much. Bobby's a big fan
Speaker 1: of his cousin. I was about to say, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: his cousin. Veyleis Jones, Veyleis Jones Junior. What a round
Speaker 1: for that family. Yeah. His brother white Ell was a
Speaker 1: corner at Southern miss His cousin Bobby played at Southern Alabama.
Speaker 1: Very good family ties for Cordell Flat and he was
Speaker 1: starting nickel for LSU. But you talked about it he
Speaker 1: gave him the Falcons, and we're gonna be on the cap.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should have war room cape. We're in two
Speaker 1: thy twenty two NFL Draft. The Atlanta Falcon select de'angelo Malone, linebacker,
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. De'angelo Malone, second edge rusher, went back board
Speaker 1: from Conference USA this round, went back to school, hoping
Speaker 1: to boost his UH, hoping to boost his stock. And
Speaker 1: you know, edit out about where I think he would
Speaker 1: have gone last year anyway. Yeah, I kind of liked
Speaker 1: him as a pleasant edge I did. I had him
Speaker 1: more in the fourth round than I did the third.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you you watched these these these
Speaker 1: guys like from these smaller schools, she kind of always wonder, Okay,
Speaker 1: why did they not end up somewhere else. We'll catch
Speaker 1: him on the other side when we get back. How
Speaker 1: about that? That sounds good? Back here? NFL Draft coverage
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two one one oh five three to fan
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We have been flying through picks
Speaker 1: as of late. The eightieth overall selection goes to the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Greg Dulcich, tight end out of UCLA, has taken the
Speaker 1: Giants at eighty one take Cordell Flot Corner from LSU,
Speaker 1: and then the Falcons select edge rusher out of Western
Speaker 1: Kentucky DeAngelo Malone at eighty two. We talked about fly
Speaker 1: in the top day, just got his chance to come
Speaker 1: back and hear that Cordell Flot went in the top.
Speaker 1: Good for him, man, good for There are times where
Speaker 1: we were cussing him in games, saying yeah, no, but
Speaker 1: I mean eighty one is high. But like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I know eighty one's high. Like I like him as
Speaker 1: a player. Just knew you're being established while you were gone.
Speaker 1: You know who his cousin is, I actually don't know.
Speaker 1: Veylas Jones. Oh really? Yea, he big day for the family.
Speaker 1: He's athletic as hell and he's feisty like I would.
Speaker 1: I would be happy to draft him, maybe even in
Speaker 1: the four. Yeah, because he can win to LSU. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Atlanta most recently taking edge rusher de'angelo Malone out of
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. We were talking about his conference running made
Speaker 1: edge rusher Alex Right a minute ago. He has better accolades.
Speaker 1: I had right high rated hire Brian. Yeah, but accolades.
Speaker 1: Why you look at de'angelo Malone? Two time Conference USA
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. He was the first player
Speaker 1: at his at his school to do it, and he
Speaker 1: did it in not back to back years, but he
Speaker 1: did it two out of three years. So you talk
Speaker 1: about consistency, he certainly brings that to the table. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think he got the guy right. And the thing
Speaker 1: about it, he's kind of a stand up defensive end
Speaker 1: and then other times he'll put the hand on the ground.
Speaker 1: There's some initial quickness to get off to his game.
Speaker 1: He's outstanding when it comes to chasing the ball. The
Speaker 1: quarterback has a hard time getting away from him. I
Speaker 1: mean that linked sixty three two forty three. I kind
Speaker 1: of felt like he was an explosive athlete with those
Speaker 1: core ring skills, the foot quickness, the lateral agility. He
Speaker 1: could kind of jump around and make some stuff happen
Speaker 1: off that edge. So you know, for tall guy, kind
Speaker 1: of get skinny a little bit to get through those gaps.
Speaker 1: So really good player there at Western Kentucky. Eagles on
Speaker 1: the clock now at eighty three, followed by the Steelers, Patriots, Raiders, Cardinals, Cowboys,
Speaker 1: so the Cowboys have just five selections in front of him.
Speaker 1: Should have been a cowboy. What are we thinking here?
Speaker 1: I mean, how how are we feeling? How we feeling
Speaker 1: Jayalen Tilbert? Fans man? If Jaylen Tilbert falls to eighty eight,
Speaker 1: it's already going to be in. That's a win. That's
Speaker 1: a win. Yeah, I mean, barring something crazy happening like
Speaker 1: a guy. But I just can't see it because again,
Speaker 1: I think they were down to three in round two.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know who it would be, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's not like there's this I mean, unless this
Speaker 1: is the Nakobe Dean breaking point, which I kind of doubt.
Speaker 1: I would like to ask that question people are asking
Speaker 1: me on Twitter, when do you start taking a chance
Speaker 1: on him even with the now that we're here ring
Speaker 1: some of this, do you take a chance on him
Speaker 1: even with the surgery the non surgery? What what happens?
Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those things where like
Speaker 1: live in the moment. I don't know that I have
Speaker 1: enough information to answer that, like does he need surgery?
Speaker 1: How long does it keep him out for? Like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, yeah, Cordell flat went before demon Clark Like
Speaker 1: that's just that's not right, um, But but Demon Clark
Speaker 1: could miss as much as his entire rookie season because
Speaker 1: of the surgery that he had. That's what's pushing him down.
Speaker 1: And so if this Dean situation could cost him his
Speaker 1: rookie year, he could fall all the way to sometime tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Was Stephen on the phone. There can we go back
Speaker 1: to the war room cam if we could, just to
Speaker 1: see what the action looks like. Okay, he just has
Speaker 1: his hand up to his face and he's just being patient.
Speaker 1: Here's the Eagles selection at eighty three. That's another wrestler
Speaker 1: to be here. We got some birds fans in that
Speaker 1: earth might be hey, she off with the eighty third
Speaker 1: pick of the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the number
Speaker 1: one team in sports with the greatest fans in the world.
Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles are happy, you know it, aren't happy
Speaker 1: to select a linebacker from Georgia. Kobe Dean. All right, ego,
Speaker 1: and you are gonna love every second of it. Congratulations, mom, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Novocare Center will be good for you. You know what,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't give a damn that it's Philly.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm happy to see a good player that
Speaker 1: I like. Finally hear his name. Get called sure, okay
Speaker 1: for him? Now they have Jordan Davis and Nakobe Dean
Speaker 1: on that defense as well. Just so you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's like that in mind, Everyone's like, well, will he
Speaker 1: still make plays without Jordan Davis eating up all his
Speaker 1: blocks while he won't have to? Ye, Now he's keep playing.
Speaker 1: He can make that happen. Brian, tell me about Nakobe Dean,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to face him maybe twice a year
Speaker 1: depending on the health issues moving forward. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: what's not to say? What's not to like about this guy?
Speaker 1: We started to ask the questions, you know, after last
Speaker 1: night He's like, oh, okay, well then maybe he just
Speaker 1: you know something. The second round is going to wait
Speaker 1: and grab him. But man, this was a long fall
Speaker 1: for him. And I talked to a couple of teams
Speaker 1: that I know. The peck stuff is new from what
Speaker 1: I've heard, this physically not the biggest linebacker. Be super impressed.
Speaker 1: If the way he's able to close on the ball.
Speaker 1: He can cover some ground in a hurry, he can
Speaker 1: make plays. He's an outstanding finisher when he gets in
Speaker 1: positions you don't see ball carrier's break tackles when he's involved.
Speaker 1: He's a much better player when he could tack the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and being around the ball. He did
Speaker 1: have a pick six against Florida where he's put in
Speaker 1: space on the outside and he was covering the back
Speaker 1: and he was able to come away with the ball.
Speaker 1: Super physical in the way he plays, the way he
Speaker 1: makes plays. He's not afraid to take on blockers because
Speaker 1: he can get rid of him when he's on the move.
Speaker 1: He can make a ton of play sideline to sideline
Speaker 1: type of guy. When you talk about that guy, be
Speaker 1: interesting to see what NFL scouts if they downgrade him
Speaker 1: because of his height. But now it's really because of
Speaker 1: the the medical stuff. So Eagles, you know, if they
Speaker 1: could sit on a player like this, this might be
Speaker 1: a guy that you know, maybe we'll see when the
Speaker 1: season go on, pup all that stuff if he has
Speaker 1: the surgery, and we might seem on one of those
Speaker 1: late November December games here in Dallas from Philadelphia. Were
Speaker 1: you gonna say something there, Bob, Now, just going back
Speaker 1: to Dulsach, this is just more a draft take in general,
Speaker 1: just because I saw this. Jeff Legwald, the longtime NFL writer,
Speaker 1: says that Dulsatch, talking with the media right now, is
Speaker 1: saying that his high school coach, Jim Bonds, was Broncos
Speaker 1: general manager George Peyton's roommate at UCLA, and it just
Speaker 1: reminds me how much like, even though the football world
Speaker 1: is so different in a lot of ways, it's still
Speaker 1: these connections and things like this that you're not aware
Speaker 1: of that that are a big factor here. It's it's
Speaker 1: still very much like the real world in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways. That's wild. Nicobe Deane off the board. He
Speaker 1: goes to the Philadelphia Eagles, great player Brian We talked
Speaker 1: about it a little bit earlier, but his recognitions is
Speaker 1: it as good as anybody's in this street. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why I just love to wait. When you're that short,
Speaker 1: you gotta play fast, you gotta play quick, and he
Speaker 1: sees it in a hurrying Here's the Steelers at eighty
Speaker 1: four into two twenty two NFL Draft. The pitchbird Steelers
Speaker 1: select de Marvin Leale, Texas A and M's cow Boys
Speaker 1: target Bobby You like de Marvin Leale to maybe go
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, you were surprised, he felt as far. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just because Leale was one of these guys that and
Speaker 1: we kind of talked about it with Ennick Barry and
Speaker 1: Austin Jackson, stuff like that. Leale was a guy that
Speaker 1: I know scouts wanted to see, like last year, all right,
Speaker 1: take that step up. We've seen some some steady progression,
Speaker 1: but based on your traits and you know what we
Speaker 1: think is there with hinting you, we need to see
Speaker 1: step it up. And it just didn't happen last year.
Speaker 1: And I think that that was disappointing to a lot
Speaker 1: of people. And I think that's partly what's it play here.
Speaker 1: But I know there's a lot of people around the
Speaker 1: league that still really believe in Leal's ceiling. Pittsburgh quietly
Speaker 1: haven't really good draft Kenny Pickett. They go get their quarterback,
Speaker 1: then they get George Pickens into Marvin Leal in that
Speaker 1: second round. I'm not looking forward to announcers doing like
Speaker 1: just announced Picket to pick its touch down. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a play by play announcer. I would love that.
Speaker 1: Please don't do that. If you get a chance, Please
Speaker 1: don't see I love that. I hear you, Kyle. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm not convinced Kenny Pickett will be the guy
Speaker 1: they want him to be, which is how the class
Speaker 1: will be remembered. But it's true, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: But but getting him at twenty instead of trading up
Speaker 1: for him, like at least they were smart about the
Speaker 1: way they acquired him. Cowboys pick in three selections, Patriots, Raiders, Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's not a whole lot of debating
Speaker 1: going on right now between our group. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is in the war room at the moment.
Speaker 1: Here's the Patriots at eighty five, a little bit country
Speaker 1: sing the Mulan song. With the fifth pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Front Draft, the New England Patriots select
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones. Oh that's a back Houston. Is that a
Speaker 1: pin throw for this room anyways? Maybe not for the Cowboys, O. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean I knew the Cowboys kind of like this guy.
Speaker 1: There was a spot that they had for him. But
Speaker 1: I think maybe this maybe in the fourth round more
Speaker 1: than the third. But man, this this guy's a fun
Speaker 1: player to watch and as typical what you could do
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick, because as you were seeing the highlights
Speaker 1: of here stuff, he will hit you. He's five, He's
Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventy four pounds. But what he's
Speaker 1: gonna do for Bill Belichick is this guy's going to
Speaker 1: be a returner, a punt returner, a kick returner. He
Speaker 1: could cover in the slot. He could do a lot
Speaker 1: of things for you. He is not afraid to stick
Speaker 1: his nose in there and make a tackle. He's a
Speaker 1: smaller guy, but super super tough. I really do, really respect.
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots have had kind of a rough draft,
Speaker 1: but they kind of got this one right in my opinion,
Speaker 1: on my board, he's rated higher than both of their
Speaker 1: first and second round picks. Just know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you have it. I think Dane has it that
Speaker 1: way too, does he? I think he? I think Marcus
Speaker 1: Stones is above Cole Strange. And then I can't remember
Speaker 1: who they picked, Yeah, player number like six thirty or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was six thirty. Yeah, Cole
Speaker 1: Strange was seventy three for ten and seven, and Marcus
Speaker 1: Jones was seventy Goodness, all right, I'm not zoned out.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just staring at Jalen Tuilbert's name,
Speaker 1: just just hoping it's you know, what's funny we came
Speaker 1: into this day thinking I think we have to Sorry, Brian,
Speaker 1: I don't think we have to debate this. No, I'm
Speaker 1: saying hoping though, with Titans and Cardinals. Cardinals could take
Speaker 1: him for he came in this day believing if they
Speaker 1: took the receiver and then took and then took say
Speaker 1: Sam Williams at the third. I mean they were probably
Speaker 1: thinking they were not going to get Sam Williams in
Speaker 1: the third. Now they're probably thinking, well, maybe maybe they had,
Speaker 1: Maybe they thought that Tilbert would be available. Pretty they're
Speaker 1: pretty good at their jobs, Yeah they are. I just
Speaker 1: wonder if we came in the day, if we said
Speaker 1: combination of Tilbert Titans just raided into this was the
Speaker 1: Raiders they've traded? It is this scary to you? Titans
Speaker 1: took Burks already. Do they need to go get another
Speaker 1: in a deep receiver draft? I don't know enough about
Speaker 1: their receiver corps. They were at ninety though, who are
Speaker 1: they hopping? They hop in the Cowboys, the Bills or
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. I mean that's kind of the thought process. Oh,
Speaker 1: Robert Woods is in Tennessee. Now, I keep forgetting that
Speaker 1: Robert Woods trailing Burks? Yeah, do you need to go
Speaker 1: get another receiver. Maybe we finally see a quarterback off
Speaker 1: the board here. There's no way that although I don't
Speaker 1: know the Titans went and got Burkes they wanted to take.
Speaker 1: Give me their tight ends situation, David, You get their
Speaker 1: Titans pulled up, Yeah, to Austin Hooper. Okay, and actually
Speaker 1: our our dear friend Jeff Swiams still hanging out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: and uh that's I mean, those are the going back
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys real quick. If we came into this
Speaker 1: draft saying okay, they're gonna take Tolbert and they're gonna
Speaker 1: take Sam Williams. You thought it was second third, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we would have been like all right, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: but just think about now. It's just flip. I feel
Speaker 1: like we do this every other year where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: trying to last you with b yeah exactly what we had.
Speaker 1: Yeah we did who oh yeah. I mean you're like, man,
Speaker 1: if if you've gotten Cox in the third and Nashan
Speaker 1: right the fourth and we're talking about this, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to justify, but if it ends up that we
Speaker 1: thought going in or they thought that they were going
Speaker 1: to do it that way, then that that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff works out. I mean, it's it gives you a
Speaker 1: little boost, Okay, But I mean they would all be
Speaker 1: happy with Tilbert, wouldn't we Heck yeah, they are good
Speaker 1: at their jobs. But they debated taking him, so there
Speaker 1: was at least some consternation that, like, well this guy
Speaker 1: might not hang around. Great word, thank you very well.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing is, you come out of this
Speaker 1: with Tilbert and Williams. You thought it would be flip flopped. However,
Speaker 1: the fact that you get both of those names in
Speaker 1: your locker room, I think you are a better football. Oh,
Speaker 1: will will called he's passing it to Jerry, So they've
Speaker 1: got somebody there. You get picked, So the pick is
Speaker 1: in for the type. Have the Raiders pick today at all?
Speaker 1: Trying to read his lips Jerry Jetty Pascal on the phone,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Brian. I think they've I think
Speaker 1: actually eight, I believe eighty six was their first pick
Speaker 1: because they've traded A one and a two for Adams
Speaker 1: and then they just traded back. So no, okay, but
Speaker 1: they are I mean they're they're slated to pick at night. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So Tennessee on the clock, followed by the Cardinals. It
Speaker 1: looks like the Cowboys have already made their selection. Now
Speaker 1: we're just waiting for the announcement to get us back
Speaker 1: to where we are. Glad you're with us here on
Speaker 1: one oh five three the Fan Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: It is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. Here's the
Speaker 1: Titans at eighty six. The Las Vegas Raiders have traded
Speaker 1: the eighty sixth pick to the Tennessee Titans. With the
Speaker 1: eighty sixth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans select Malite Willis. All right, let's go.
Speaker 1: That is especially for the ceiling on Willis. That's that's
Speaker 1: a good pick there. I love this. I think about
Speaker 1: at least scratch off my last name. That was my
Speaker 1: last Did you lose the game? I'm at eighty six.
Speaker 1: I will say the thought process of a read option
Speaker 1: attack with Malik Willis and Derrick Henry going back and
Speaker 1: forth is very entire. There's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of pumping this guy up right now. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he's had a long, long couple of days. I'm happy
Speaker 1: for him. I like him as a as a leader,
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, as a person. I think he's he's
Speaker 1: a next level quarterback, may take a little bit of
Speaker 1: time to become a real starter and a next in
Speaker 1: an impact player, but I like Malik willis a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. I think this is a good
Speaker 1: spot for him to be in too, well, with all
Speaker 1: of with especially with him. I mean, he got he
Speaker 1: got tagged to Pittsburgh so much because you knew that
Speaker 1: he didn't have to play, he could sit behind Drubisky.
Speaker 1: And it's a similar situation here where Tannehill's at least
Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere this year and maybe not even
Speaker 1: the year after that. So again, if this guy it
Speaker 1: needs a lot of time to develop and learn the
Speaker 1: scheme and all the stuff that's required of that, then yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great landing spot. This is want
Speaker 1: to give me one of those deals where we might
Speaker 1: look back on this and say and like, what was
Speaker 1: everybody thinking? Why did he last this long? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: mean there's a team right there, right with the receivers
Speaker 1: they have, right the the when you look at the
Speaker 1: running game, the offensive line, his ability to make plays
Speaker 1: with his feet, you know, I mean, there's there's just
Speaker 1: a lot of positive things to think about him going
Speaker 1: to Tennessee, and you know, we're probably gonna look back
Speaker 1: on this one and go, man, what were people thinking
Speaker 1: all that time? I wonder who they were trying to
Speaker 1: trade up to get in front of to make this pick.
Speaker 1: If they were at ninety the only teams in the
Speaker 1: middle were the Raiders, the Cardinals, the Cowboys in the builds.
Speaker 1: Maybe they were worried about somebody coming from the back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you hear, you never, but I'm looking at the teams
Speaker 1: in the back. You know, it looks like everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: it was kind of I don't know, Tampa Bay, somebody
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe you know, Lions, maybe somebody like Mike
Speaker 1: Vrabel's so happy. Yeah, he looks pumped. Malik Willis going
Speaker 1: to the Tennessee Titans, all right, the Cardinals on they're
Speaker 1: hanging out with Malik Willis with the Arizona Cardinals at
Speaker 1: eighty seven. Then it's the Cowboys at eighty eight. Pick
Speaker 1: is in for the Cardinals. Of course, we were looking
Speaker 1: at the war room a moment ago. It looks like
Speaker 1: the pick is already in for the Cowboys. This is
Speaker 1: really going to decide who we think it is. It's
Speaker 1: either gonna put us into hysterics. So we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to figure out who they selected or it's not going
Speaker 1: to be the name Jalen Tolbert out of South Alabama,
Speaker 1: and that will most likely be the Cowboys pick at
Speaker 1: eighty eight, at least we would think out of this room,
Speaker 1: here's a selection for the Cardinals. For the Arizona Cardinals pick,
Speaker 1: I'm joined from representatives from the National Gay Football League,
Speaker 1: a great partner of the NFL, the Cardinals and several
Speaker 1: other clubs the Gay Fall League foster's understanding self perspect
Speaker 1: through their athletes passion for the game of football. Joel Harton,
Speaker 1: who plays for the Arizona Arsenal, we'll be making the pick.
Speaker 1: Do tell yours? Thanks, Thanks Rogers. With the eighty seventh
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals select Cameron Thomas, devisive in San Diego State. So
Speaker 1: Jlen Tuilbert's still on the board for the Cowboys at
Speaker 1: eighty eight. Is this cut, set try, It's done, gotta be,
Speaker 1: It's gotta be. I'm sure this which Brian. I know
Speaker 1: you want us to get the pick right, And yesterday
Speaker 1: we were all a little. I think we had pretty well.
Speaker 1: We all kind of thought Sam Williams, Jaylen Tilbert. So
Speaker 1: if we hit Tilbert here, maybe not that. Maybe we
Speaker 1: didn't get the order. That's what I'm saying. I think
Speaker 1: we came into the day thinking it was going to
Speaker 1: be a wide receiver in the end. Somehow, some way,
Speaker 1: I knew Sam Williams was going to be on the
Speaker 1: sport yeah or this team. You guys convinced me and
Speaker 1: tibur and we had this discussion in our mock draft,
Speaker 1: and we ended up taking the kid from Sandy, from
Speaker 1: South Dakota State, right, I let I let us take
Speaker 1: Watson because I upset you with Pickens. Give me the
Speaker 1: give me the you did. Give me the thumbnail of
Speaker 1: what you think about this player, what you're hearing about Tilburt,
Speaker 1: and why they should say, well, here's Dallas. Here comes
Speaker 1: the pick right here. Yeah, here it is. Let's see
Speaker 1: what we got. I don't know if they're announcing it yet.
Speaker 1: I thought they just had somebody looking like they were injured.
Speaker 1: I looked like they were Okay, my bad, sorry about
Speaker 1: that's okay? False start offense? Smith. Hey, who's coming to
Speaker 1: the podium right now to announced pick number eighth. Don't
Speaker 1: be haying, don't be had on the boys with the
Speaker 1: eighth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: What a receiver from South Alabama. There you go, guys,
Speaker 1: good job you guys talk that one through. This makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense, not just because of things you heard,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, things that were floating around the team,
Speaker 1: but this makes a lot of sense just from what
Speaker 1: I heard about the way. What kind of receiver Robert
Speaker 1: Prince wanted here? Yeah, and and and look, the scouts
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. One of the things they do really really
Speaker 1: well is is kind of educate the scouts or have
Speaker 1: the scouts get an idea of like, Okay, what do
Speaker 1: you guys need as coaches? What do you need from us?
Speaker 1: And that's a new coach too, and and getting an
Speaker 1: understanding of that. And he fits what Robert Prince wants
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, you look at him size, He's
Speaker 1: not a burner, but I mean he's got he's still
Speaker 1: a high four four guy. And to me when I
Speaker 1: when I watched him play, and one of the things
Speaker 1: you hear a lot about him really polished out runner.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of wasted steps. Everything's really efficient with him.
Speaker 1: I think he's really really good. I would have been
Speaker 1: completely happy with him at pick fifty six. Happy with
Speaker 1: him and pick fifty six, but you get him at
Speaker 1: pick eighty eight. Either way, he is the newest Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 1: Give me a quick scouting report on him, Brian. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk plenty about him, even after we go to
Speaker 1: break here in a second. Yeah, I'm just working my
Speaker 1: way down the board. You told him a control f
Speaker 1: or something like that. Anyway, Hey, he's got He had
Speaker 1: a really good week of practice at a senior bowl.
Speaker 1: He's a local kid from Mobile. He runs well enough,
Speaker 1: but the best thing he does is go get that football.
Speaker 1: And so there are plenty of snaps where you just
Speaker 1: you see him. He goes and he takes it. When
Speaker 1: the offense needs a big play, they generally going in
Speaker 1: his direction. Super competitive in the way that he goes
Speaker 1: about his business. Is always talking trash to the defender.
Speaker 1: You can see that on the tap. Can back up
Speaker 1: a lot of his talk with his play outstanding body
Speaker 1: control balance, even if it's covered, he's had the leak
Speaker 1: to come away with the ball. Several big plays were
Speaker 1: deep down the field. He does find ways to get
Speaker 1: behind those defenders and make those plays. So Jaylen Tolbert
Speaker 1: is a selection for the Cowboys at eighty eight. Let's
Speaker 1: hear the Bill selection at eighty nine while we've got
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do so. So Mafia and every other
Speaker 1: fan base made his flight up stands, raiders, fans style
Speaker 1: rails like my flight is at l News, like I'm
Speaker 1: landing in Vegas where I'm sticking around because this pick
Speaker 1: is the only pick who will win the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: in his rookie year. Those are picked booming one person
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Super Bowl fifty
Speaker 1: seven champion Buffalo Bills select my man Terrell Bernard Becker
Speaker 1: Taylor love this kid. Do you remember we talked about
Speaker 1: We talked about Hill Branson beast Man, he's so entertained.
Speaker 1: We talked about scout players versus coach players. Bernard is
Speaker 1: one of those guys you here about. It's like a
Speaker 1: coach guy, Like that's a guy coaches love both guys
Speaker 1: a Veranda and Matt Rule. We're gonna talk about him.
Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about Jalen Tolbert. News Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboy they get their weapon at pick number eighty eight,
Speaker 1: but are they done? Also could they maybe sneak back
Speaker 1: into the back half of the third round. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about it when we come back on one O five
Speaker 1: three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. This Bernard's
Speaker 1: a good player. He really is good player, And like
Speaker 1: Bobby was saying, coaches rave about him. People are quick
Speaker 1: to praise for him, and kind of along the lines
Speaker 1: of the Jalen Petrees that we talked about, the jay
Speaker 1: Z Woods. That was the nucleus of that Baylor defense
Speaker 1: and he was a huge part of it. He's a
Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl MVP for that matter. Yeah, he's an undersized
Speaker 1: linebacker and you know, at six one two twenty four,
Speaker 1: but he does his best to get around the ball.
Speaker 1: I feel like the awareness and he sees the field
Speaker 1: super well. There weren't many snaps where he was out
Speaker 1: of place fooled on the play. He's got the boy
Speaker 1: to read move quickly. Due to his lack of book,
Speaker 1: He's able to make things that happen though I saw
Speaker 1: them only tied up a couple of times in the
Speaker 1: games I viewed, but he moved well, runs well on tape.
Speaker 1: He plays the burst's range, he could get outside, he
Speaker 1: makes tackles wide, there's a there's a really good job
Speaker 1: at blitz and two has a knack and a feel
Speaker 1: for how to attack the pocket, get through the gaps,
Speaker 1: small cracks, quickness, get right on that quarterback finish as
Speaker 1: well for the most part, but there's there's some snaps.
Speaker 1: We also see him bounce off the ball, carry a
Speaker 1: little bit, but the movement and coverage, all that other
Speaker 1: stuff is really really good. You look at that highlight
Speaker 1: at the moment and we're watching it since we are
Speaker 1: on the internet side of things. That's why I gave
Speaker 1: it a little bit of pause there. But I mean
Speaker 1: just a junior. But he was there for four years.
Speaker 1: He had two years with Matt Rule, he had two
Speaker 1: years with Dave Randa, and it didn't matter what system
Speaker 1: he was in. He was the leader of that Baylor defense. Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this just a little bit here.
Speaker 1: This is where we had the conversation in our mock
Speaker 1: draft earlier in the week on the Draft Show about
Speaker 1: maybe getting back into the third round to go get
Speaker 1: a tight end. We did it for Ka Dot and
Speaker 1: we traded back up to one oh four to the Rams.
Speaker 1: Not early sure if that's even a possibility. However, you
Speaker 1: could maybe make it happen with those fifth round picks.
Speaker 1: And after we hear about the Raiders selection at ninety,
Speaker 1: I want to hear if that's a possibility for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys tonight himself. In keeping with the tradition of the
Speaker 1: late great Wally Brown, I want to wish all the
Speaker 1: mothers across the land a happy Mother's Day and to
Speaker 1: make this selection the greatest in Las Vegas. Mister Wayne Newton,
Speaker 1: Hello Vegash with the ninety pick in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two AL Draft, the Las Vegas Raiders shucked. We'll do
Speaker 1: it together. Dylan Barum, come Milesia Ship Memphis. The Raiders
Speaker 1: just made a pick at pick number ninety, Dylan Barham
Speaker 1: from Mississippi where he actually went to Memphis. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what they announced it as. It's pretty close Mississippi with them. Hey,
Speaker 1: they were close enough, right. We're back here on NFL
Speaker 1: Draft coverage on one oh five three The Fan and
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. So glad you've joined us here
Speaker 1: on this Friday night, one of the best nights of
Speaker 1: the year in my regard, it's my favorite weekend and
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be with you guys. David Hiller here,
Speaker 1: Brian brought us, Bobby Belt, I'm Kyle Yeoman's what was
Speaker 1: that Dave here here? Sorry I spoke over you, but
Speaker 1: this is my favorite weekend of the year. And Day two,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I go back and forth on whether
Speaker 1: I like Day two or Day three more because like
Speaker 1: Day three is just a marathon. But these are the
Speaker 1: value picks, like these are the guys that don't get
Speaker 1: enough credit for what they contribute to your roster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Friday Night in the draft man, so much fun.
Speaker 1: And well, the Cowboys, at least recently have had it's
Speaker 1: basically fifty fifty on guys that have made impacts out
Speaker 1: of Day two and guys that have not made impacts.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they hit on all of them. Right now, we
Speaker 1: feel pretty good. Sam Williams edge rusher from Ole miss
Speaker 1: at fifty six eighty eight was Jalen Tilbert wide receiver
Speaker 1: out of South Alabama. One glaring need for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: right now that that have not addressed and they've talked
Speaker 1: about is tied in we in a mock draft on
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Draft Show earlier in
Speaker 1: the week. We traded back up. We use those fifth
Speaker 1: round picks to get back into the third. Is that
Speaker 1: a conversation that should be had at the moment, Bobby,
Speaker 1: When you look at some of these tight ends that
Speaker 1: are on the board, you still have a pretty good
Speaker 1: pick of them Kadot and Jeremy Ruckard, both of which
Speaker 1: were thirty visits. It gets. It just depends for them.
Speaker 1: Do they have them clustered close enough that they feel
Speaker 1: like we can sit like I think that's what ended
Speaker 1: out happening with the Tyler Smith pick, right, is that
Speaker 1: they thought, yeah, maybe we haven't we like this guy more,
Speaker 1: we like this or that or whatever else, but like,
Speaker 1: we don't feel they need to go trade up. We
Speaker 1: don't feel they need to waste capital. We don't like
Speaker 1: this person enough over this one to waste capital. I
Speaker 1: think that's what you'd be talking about here with the
Speaker 1: tight ends. And so if they like one, sure go
Speaker 1: get one. If you like one clear above the others,
Speaker 1: go ahead. The reason that we were able to get
Speaker 1: back in is we had Kansas City's four, so we
Speaker 1: took our four in Kansas City's four when we traded back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could do it with these fives.
Speaker 1: Could you be a four end of five? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It would have to be a smaller trade. It would
Speaker 1: have to be. Yeah, you can't know if you're getting
Speaker 1: all the way up to one. Okay, and we could
Speaker 1: trade these compensatories now, right, we can do that. So
Speaker 1: maybe find a team on the end, maybe this compensatory
Speaker 1: area that doesn't have a lot of picks that are
Speaker 1: kind of maybe you could say, okay, we'll give you
Speaker 1: a couple of extra ones if you let us get
Speaker 1: back in from one of these tight ends. The Rams
Speaker 1: at one oh fourth, that's the team we traded with, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Belichick took their guard. So then maybe they just give
Speaker 1: their pick to us. Well maybe, you know, but like
Speaker 1: I say, maybe you can if you want to such
Speaker 1: a deep draft. I don't think they want to sacrifice capital.
Speaker 1: See the thing that the thing that I kind of
Speaker 1: felt like when we did that the other day, and
Speaker 1: I really appreciated that the exercise of it all, but
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like that we waited, you know,
Speaker 1: we waited on these and may that may be the
Speaker 1: case moving forward, But they did make the pick at
Speaker 1: number eighty eight. Jaylen Tolbert, wide receiver from South Alabama
Speaker 1: was the selection and he joins us right now. I
Speaker 1: want to find three the fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Jaylen, congratulations,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Cowboys Nation. How does it feel being the
Speaker 1: newest Dallas Cowboy? This is a real moment, man. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited to get the work. I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: come up there and meet everybody and you know, get
Speaker 1: and get the work, you know, continuing to change the
Speaker 1: culture and you know, turn this thing around and go
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Dallas is an amazing place and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys is an amazing organization. Now when did you
Speaker 1: first hear from the Cowboys? When did this whole process
Speaker 1: start for you? And how did that relationship kind of
Speaker 1: evolve along the way. Uh. I had a private workout
Speaker 1: with coach Prince Uh a couple of a week or
Speaker 1: two after my pro day, and then UH after that,
Speaker 1: we honestly didn't talk that much. And then I got
Speaker 1: a phone call from Zach a couple of days ago
Speaker 1: UH and we talked on the phone for about twenty
Speaker 1: minutes and just talked about ball and relationship with quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and you know what I what I could bring to
Speaker 1: the table. Jalen, when you when you talked to Robert Fince,
Speaker 1: you go through that workout, what is it that he
Speaker 1: liked about your game? And what did you hear from
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that they were intrigued by you about and
Speaker 1: why they thought you were a fit? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: he liked my size and speed ratio that I could
Speaker 1: get in and out of my breaks to be as
Speaker 1: fit and big as I am. He also liked my
Speaker 1: high me being able to retain the information and go
Speaker 1: out there and actually running a route that he had
Speaker 1: taught me. So we had a pretty pretty good private,
Speaker 1: private workout. And you know after, you know, he told
Speaker 1: me the first thing I asked him, I said, coach
Speaker 1: working I work on and he said, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: when we make your Cowboys. So hey, Jayalen, congratulations, Manum,
Speaker 1: I gotta follow up on that. I'm curious. I've been
Speaker 1: covering the draft for a while and I don't often
Speaker 1: hear about quarterbacks calling guys before they get drafted. Have
Speaker 1: you heard from other guys the way you heard from Dak?
Speaker 1: And just like how surreal was that moment getting a
Speaker 1: call from Dak Prescott before you'd even been drafted by
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I mean, honestly, it was a real moment.
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to a quarterback like that, and then
Speaker 1: in the NFL at all, and I was I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a random Paul like, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: is this your draft day number? But you know he
Speaker 1: was like, hey, Jaylen's Dak Prescott and I was like,
Speaker 1: what so I mean? And then of course, like I said,
Speaker 1: we had had pretty pretty good conversation and you know,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, and you know, I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: get to work with him. Chillen. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: something I watched a bunch your tape and particularly the
Speaker 1: Southern Mists and the Arkansas State games. Is, Man, you
Speaker 1: talk a lot of crap during the game. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, man, I mean, you're like rocking the baby
Speaker 1: on them on touchdowns and stuff like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: is this what we're gonna get? We're gonna get a guy.
Speaker 1: It's like a crap talker to these defensive backs here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't talk, and let's talk. I'm talked too,
Speaker 1: so you know, not trying to be disrespectful. You know,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna keep my mouth closed and go to
Speaker 1: work and do what we do, you know. But sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta humble people, you know. Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: We're glad to have you too, because we now got
Speaker 1: a place to stay from Maudie grawl down there in Mobile.
Speaker 1: All right. You gotta so you gotta taking care of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. All right, we'll get that together. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll get your our people in touch with your people
Speaker 1: and make it happen. But uh, once again, Jaylen Tolbert,
Speaker 1: wide receiver out of South Alabama, the New West Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboy pick number eighty eight on the line with us
Speaker 1: here I wonder five three the fan in Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot com. But Jaylen, what's the biggest strength to your
Speaker 1: game that you're bringing to the next level? What our
Speaker 1: NFL teams gonna have to scheme against now that you're
Speaker 1: at the next level, You're you're a professional, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna be on the field with some of the best.
Speaker 1: Definitely my IQ being able to be versatile and play
Speaker 1: inside and now I can play slot or a houseide receiver,
Speaker 1: you know. And then I also think my high catch radius.
Speaker 1: You know, hot point in the ball is you know,
Speaker 1: one of my main strengths. And so you know they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to worry about where I'm at and you
Speaker 1: know how I'm getting the ball, whether it's down the
Speaker 1: field or you know, behind the line of scrimmage, whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be. That's gonna do it for us
Speaker 1: here on this call. Jalen, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Congratulations again, We'll talk to you soon, and welcome to
Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation. Yeah, sir, there he goes Jaylen Tolbert, wide
Speaker 1: receiver from South Alabama. He was on the phone just
Speaker 1: a moment ago, and a couple of picks have rittled
Speaker 1: off since then, So let's catch you up. The Buccaneers
Speaker 1: take Rashod and White running back out of blossing over this.
Speaker 1: We're not glossing over this. This is my guy. He
Speaker 1: is my pick, and they selected him while you were
Speaker 1: I know, I saw it going and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't scream during the middle of a Jail and
Speaker 1: Tilbord interview. His family was in the back to bed
Speaker 1: to do with this guy making the pick? Doctor disrespect
Speaker 1: what this switch stream to NFL oh Draft Draft, the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers select Tyrion Davis Trice. You
Speaker 1: good player, My my run. My guys are a lot
Speaker 1: of picks going off for such a terrible football team.
Speaker 1: Shut up TDP. TDP doesn't get the credit he deserves.
Speaker 1: But Matt Rashad White, I just feel I feel validated
Speaker 1: because I see this guy like falling into the fifth
Speaker 1: round or maybe the late fourth. He goes in the
Speaker 1: top one hundred because he's just a big boy that
Speaker 1: can do a little bit of everything. Man like, he
Speaker 1: was just and I know Senior Bowl practices are hard
Speaker 1: to evaluate because they're non contact, but he just he
Speaker 1: had burst. He's physical, He's getting past linebackers before they
Speaker 1: can even react. I just I think he's a really
Speaker 1: good player, and I'm excited that the league agrees with me,
Speaker 1: and he goes at ninety one overall to the Bucks.
Speaker 1: The Packers take Sean Ryan, offensive tackle out of UCLA,
Speaker 1: and then terry On Davis Price, running back from LSU,
Speaker 1: goes at forty three to the San Francisco forty nine.
Speaker 1: Is we have to take a break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we'll wrap up the third round and continue on. It's
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft on one oh five
Speaker 1: three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of that mobile, Marty Girl, by the way, I am. Yeah,
Speaker 1: heck yeah, you're the coaching staff. Senior Bowl. We stayed there,
Speaker 1: We had a we had a good old time standing
Speaker 1: on that on the corners. Yeah, now that's where it originated. Absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what they'll tell you. They'd have it up on
Speaker 1: all the light post the right. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna trash talk trash, I mean new I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: him New Orleans does it better? New Orleans? Talk about
Speaker 1: your running back? Though? Again, which one rashod or Ti
Speaker 1: Davis Price? Davis Price, I did get kind of similar
Speaker 1: to um Rashad White. I think TDP's big thing is
Speaker 1: he's just not very fast, not very fast. He's just
Speaker 1: not He's not He ain't going to the house unless
Speaker 1: the run is twenty yards or less, and even then
Speaker 1: maybe not. But he's a good, well rounded back man.
Speaker 1: He holds the LSU rushing requal game rushing record, Florida
Speaker 1: did it against UF last year. A lot of running backs.
Speaker 1: That is a school where it's hard to set the record.
Speaker 1: So just a well rounded guy. I think he can
Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything. He's very physical. I
Speaker 1: would I wouldn't expect him to be anybody's bell cow back,
Speaker 1: but I certainly think he can carve out a role
Speaker 1: for himself. And hey, forty nine is like the stockpile
Speaker 1: running backs. We've seen that before. Carolina just went up.
Speaker 1: Is this to get Correl? Oh, they traded with the
Speaker 1: Patriots at ninety four. The Patriots, we're gonna pick somebody
Speaker 1: rank two twelve anyway, they were gonna just drop back
Speaker 1: down there by the way. I think it's interesting you
Speaker 1: talk to Tulbert. That's what we've been talking about. Like
Speaker 1: Prince is like very heavy on like precise route, and
Speaker 1: like that's I think it's I think we got a
Speaker 1: nugget there that Dak Prescott gave him a call. So
Speaker 1: the next time we want to know is Dak trying
Speaker 1: to help recruit and help and do all those things.
Speaker 1: He's willing to do whatever he has to do. Oh,
Speaker 1: I want to I was talking about this with somebody
Speaker 1: the other day, not just on the draft front. I
Speaker 1: just want to make it clear for anybody who doubts
Speaker 1: that Dak absolutely recruits, like I know of that across
Speaker 1: that Dak does. It's just you know, this is what
Speaker 1: it is. Okay, But see here, when you say recruiting,
Speaker 1: you're talking about like free agents and stuff. Right. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know even I don't know. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know how often he's done this. But I mean,
Speaker 1: if they've got a beat on a guy, sure did CD?
Speaker 1: Did he talk to CD? I feel like he may
Speaker 1: have Dad. I feel like we may have heard that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he did or not. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We need to we need to next time we get Dak,
Speaker 1: we need to ask him how many times he's called
Speaker 1: the player. I think that's going to be one of
Speaker 1: the talking points around this pick specifically, is the fact
Speaker 1: that Dak did reach out. Now, Bobby, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: you on some homework here, and I want to talk
Speaker 1: about it after we We're gonna hear the secret audio
Speaker 1: coming up in a minute when we get back on
Speaker 1: the radio side. But I've got a homework assignment for you.
Speaker 1: Carolina was at one thirty seven. They traded up to
Speaker 1: ninety four to get this pick from the Panthers. They
Speaker 1: didn't have a third round pick they traded back into
Speaker 1: the third What is the compensation? How much did it
Speaker 1: cost them to get up to ninety four? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: just yeah, right, just to go from ninety or one
Speaker 1: thirty seven to ninety four? How much did that cost?
Speaker 1: And that could maybe give us the roadmap of what
Speaker 1: it would cost the Cowboys to get right back in
Speaker 1: the fick they traded. Goodness, what do we have here? Uh,
Speaker 1: one thirty seven and a twenty twenty three third Wow,
Speaker 1: so this could be a quarterback? This is this got
Speaker 1: a quarterback? Nobody loves giving away picks more than Carolina
Speaker 1: on quarterbacks. Third round, here's the selection. Its have traded
Speaker 1: the ninety fourth pick to the CAROLINEA Panthers. With the
Speaker 1: ninety fourth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers select Matt Corral. There go fire good value. Yes,
Speaker 1: Panthers trade their twenty twenty three third round pick and
Speaker 1: pick number one thirty seven in the fourth round to
Speaker 1: go get their quarterback. Ole missus Matt Corral at pick
Speaker 1: number ninety four in the third round. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: NFL coverage of the NFL Draft. On one O five three,
Speaker 1: the Fan of Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Brian, tell me
Speaker 1: about Matt Corral early on, he was one of your
Speaker 1: favorite quarters. Yeah, and then you know what happened is
Speaker 1: I went and got some really some more tape on
Speaker 1: this guy. I was, I was, I was working on
Speaker 1: a couple of games, but I wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: I had all the throws. He's physically he does not
Speaker 1: look like a stout quarterback, but he's six two. He's
Speaker 1: two hundred and twelve pounds when you watch him on
Speaker 1: the tape. But man, he's a tough He's a hard
Speaker 1: nos runner. With the ball in his hands, He's not
Speaker 1: afraid to lower his shoulder to get the first down.
Speaker 1: He's an outstandley, outstanding ball handler and faker. He's very
Speaker 1: deceptive in the pocket the way with his fakes. He
Speaker 1: makes a ton of plays on the move. He'll throw
Speaker 1: the ball at all arm angles, platforms. He's kind of
Speaker 1: always working moving to get himself in the best chance
Speaker 1: to deliver the ball. And I think he's outstanding when
Speaker 1: it's come to delivering the slants and things like that.
Speaker 1: He'll put the ball right on top. He had some
Speaker 1: he had some issues in the A and M game
Speaker 1: where ball security was an issue and I A and
Speaker 1: him beat him up pretty good. I think he needs
Speaker 1: a better protection to or be protected better. He'll play
Speaker 1: hurt and he'll thrive. So huge heart desires a player Carolina.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're on that coaching staffs on their
Speaker 1: last leg if they don't figure out that quarterback situation.
Speaker 1: So they go up and get Matt Correll. That mood
Speaker 1: lighting in their draft room. He's very interesting, ominous. They
Speaker 1: go get ikey Akwanu with a sixth pick, and then
Speaker 1: they go get Matt Correll. Who I mean, if that's
Speaker 1: their quarterback, then that was their quarterback coming out of this.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, like God bless these teams for
Speaker 1: not overreacting about these quarterbacks. Like if if Matt Correll
Speaker 1: doesn't work out for you at ninety four and you
Speaker 1: traded away a future third round pick, who cares? This
Speaker 1: might be the draft though, where we all remember that
Speaker 1: the draft where the kind of the the Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: fourth round. You know, guys like it. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, none of these guys wouldn't do
Speaker 1: a thirty for thirty. None of these guys with the
Speaker 1: exception of and win the first round. But then all
Speaker 1: these Carson Strong, Yeah, that'll be the guy. That'll be
Speaker 1: your guy. Now the pick it pick is in for
Speaker 1: the Bengals, and then it's the Colts, the Lions, the Commanders,
Speaker 1: and the Browns. Cowboys do not have another pick at
Speaker 1: the moment. Inside the third round, we just talked about
Speaker 1: what it cost Carolina to go from one thirty seven
Speaker 1: to ninety four. Cowboys don't necessarily have to get all
Speaker 1: the way to ninety four. They can still kind of
Speaker 1: get in the back end of that. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: A higher pick we traded. Remember, we took the two
Speaker 1: picks we had with the one we got from Kansas
Speaker 1: Cy we went to one oh four, which was the Ramps.
Speaker 1: Would you answer me this batman? It's riddled me this batman?
Speaker 1: Whatever answer me this questions three? Uh, the Panthers just
Speaker 1: used a future pick to go up and get a guy.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are gonna get some comp pics next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder if they'd be willing to feel. In the
Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Zachary Carter,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle Florida. Another tweeterer on that defensive line. This
Speaker 1: happens every year. This feels like a year where even
Speaker 1: more so, like grades are all over the place, like
Speaker 1: guys that are routinely seen as like day three guys
Speaker 1: are going very very highly. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: I know that's pretty common. The reverse. There's there are
Speaker 1: three players in a row right outside Dane's top fifty,
Speaker 1: Darien Canard, Perry On Winfrey, Jamari Sawyer that have not gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great point. Yeah, I just yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a deep class in the class with not a
Speaker 1: lot of what you remember, we talked about this. I
Speaker 1: don't think I said this on the air. I think
Speaker 1: and I we talked about this offer. Well, it's not
Speaker 1: a bad thing. I just think it was discussed off there.
Speaker 1: We remember I said, somebody had told me recently, like
Speaker 1: y'all are gonna be floored. Yeah, like y'all don't have
Speaker 1: some of these players. You guys don't have the right
Speaker 1: to stratosphere. Which is funny because I thought I thought
Speaker 1: they meant more along first round and I was like
Speaker 1: not really, like I would all over the place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the first round I felt like Jermaine Johnson was
Speaker 1: the big one that was like there were there were
Speaker 1: a few, but by and large, like I mean, I
Speaker 1: went to bed last night with twenty seven of my
Speaker 1: thirty two scratched off, like so that's not terrible. But
Speaker 1: everything that's happened since has been pretty wild in terms
Speaker 1: of well and everybody having to Kobe Dean as high
Speaker 1: as he was, for sure. Here's the Colts at ninety six.
Speaker 1: Roncos have traded the ninety sixth thick to the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 1: With the ninety sixth pick in the twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts select knitting Across defensive back
Speaker 1: Maryland guy. He's a tough son of a gain. He is.
Speaker 1: It's tough. He's on Maryland. And you can also talk
Speaker 1: about Jaylen Tilbert being a tough son of a gun
Speaker 1: as well. Here's the secret audio from when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: selected their newest wide receiver, Jaylen Tilbert with the eighty
Speaker 1: eighth overall pick. Will McClay with the Cowboys, got somebody
Speaker 1: who wants to talk to you. Hold on. You think
Speaker 1: you can put a stall on that helmet? You sure can.
Speaker 1: You just had your position coach really get up and
Speaker 1: Reid a rate everybody in this room. I've one a
Speaker 1: top person yard to work with and be on a
Speaker 1: team with. So I'm glad to be on your team. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: you're a dollar. Here's your coach, Jaylen Mike McCarthy, congratulations.
Speaker 1: Are you ready to go? Oh that's awesome. Hey, we're
Speaker 1: so excited to have you here all of susly, you
Speaker 1: know what we're all about, and you're coming to a
Speaker 1: pirate offense and we've got big plans for you, young man.
Speaker 1: So congrat to enjoyed his time with your family and
Speaker 1: really look forward to get to work with you. Yes,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Coach. There he is Jalen Tolberth secret audio.
Speaker 1: Nothing really juicy in that one. We've had a couple
Speaker 1: of them that. Mike McCarthy's kind of got the same
Speaker 1: thing every year. I kind of yeah, I kind of
Speaker 1: miss I missed. I missed Jason Garrett's draft day phone calls.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I miss I. I just made Dave
Speaker 1: Sad say I miss I miss what It's a great
Speaker 1: day for us, but it's a great day for you.
Speaker 1: You know, you know that's every player he ever talked to.
Speaker 1: I didn't notice it was if it was on the
Speaker 1: last call, but I was keenly aware on the Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith call outside how everybody kept saying fired up, fired
Speaker 1: up to have you, We're all fired up, I'm fired up,
Speaker 1: coach fired up. Everybody was saying it. It's like the
Speaker 1: Pat Benatar song, Oh fired up. That was that was
Speaker 1: relatively tamed by draft day Shugart audio. Here's the interesting
Speaker 1: thing we had talked about, like they need an edge, right,
Speaker 1: like that was getting and not like a legitimate edge.
Speaker 1: I mean that was part of it, but like that
Speaker 1: part of the culture change that I think was they
Speaker 1: were trying to shift a little bit. Here was like
Speaker 1: toughness intensity, like players with an edge. I think all
Speaker 1: three of these guys they've drafted so far are players
Speaker 1: with an edge that you can see, like on the tape.
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith, Sam Williams, Jaylen Tulbert and their coaches will
Speaker 1: back that up and everybody around them too. I'm right
Speaker 1: there with you. I think all three of those guys
Speaker 1: check that box. You've gotten better from a toughness standpoint
Speaker 1: by these these three rookies, I mean, these three draft picks.
Speaker 1: If everything pans out the way that you you hope
Speaker 1: or the way that you thought whenever you drafted them,
Speaker 1: or what you've seen. They're all tough players. They're going
Speaker 1: to be good or good additions to that locker room.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that playoff, Like you hear about specific
Speaker 1: games being like flashpoint moments for teams, and I wonder
Speaker 1: if they've I mean, they did get bullied by San Francisco,
Speaker 1: but I wonder if it was like evident to them
Speaker 1: that they were like, Oh, we gotta we need we
Speaker 1: need to get toughen up a little bit. I think
Speaker 1: we don't look like we're playing the same game as
Speaker 1: these guys. I think that was the exclamation point on
Speaker 1: something that was building over a few weeks for them,
Speaker 1: where they were like, oh, and then you know, because
Speaker 1: look when you talk to people leading up to that game,
Speaker 1: they acknowledged like, yes, that's a that's a challenge for us,
Speaker 1: and that's but they also were like, but like, like,
Speaker 1: we trust our quarterback over their quarterback. You know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we think our quarterbacks better
Speaker 1: and and that's gonna give us the edge. And then
Speaker 1: they still got out there and they got bullied, and
Speaker 1: I think it was just like man, there's there's a
Speaker 1: serious deficit here that needs to be addressed. And to
Speaker 1: their credit, they're doing it. They they've did it in
Speaker 1: free agency, even like Dante Fowler's a guy with an edge.
Speaker 1: But like I think and so I mean they they've
Speaker 1: I think they are actively and that's something as we've
Speaker 1: talked about, I heard a lot throughout the process, there
Speaker 1: were a lot of agents hearing that. You're hearing chatter
Speaker 1: from the team about that. A bunch of agents, players
Speaker 1: were talking about how they were here from the Cowboys
Speaker 1: about like, hey, we need that, we need that intensity,
Speaker 1: we need we need to bring that in here. Nine
Speaker 1: picks left here in the third round, chill, we said
Speaker 1: that nine picks left, we'd we'd be done by now.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for John Cappell, who was it was
Speaker 1: oh Ed and Hero we've got the uh, I was
Speaker 1: like John Calipari, mana picks, we got the fast, average
Speaker 1: and slow, Like, how are we doing? Oh man so
Speaker 1: really super slow? Edmir and Narrow went up there and
Speaker 1: took They had to pull him off the stage. I've
Speaker 1: never seen anybody do that. Like, Bro, you gotta make
Speaker 1: the pick if you get the hook at the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's a guy. Make the pick quick. Harry Sanders.
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders will walk up there, Lions tick favorite player
Speaker 1: at ninety seven. Here are the Lions player. He was
Speaker 1: mine good even everyone, thank you, thank you for that
Speaker 1: lorn welcome and like I carried the ball. Ninety seven
Speaker 1: pick the Nightmare twenty twenty two NFL Draft. This as
Speaker 1: tall as days freight. Lions select best Kirby Joseph sat
Speaker 1: another Senior Bowl guy. Guys always roll the ball. I
Speaker 1: mean he makes interceptions and stuff like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that guy's like a real talking about here ball production.
Speaker 1: Range struggles a little against runt. I didn't think he
Speaker 1: was terrible against the run, but I mean it was
Speaker 1: one of those things. I think the most impressive thing
Speaker 1: was it seemed like every time there was an overthrow,
Speaker 1: he was standing right there and then the ball was
Speaker 1: going in his direction. So six one, two oh three. Man,
Speaker 1: I was pretty impressed by this guy because, like I say,
Speaker 1: he is not afraid to hit you. But he's also,
Speaker 1: like I say, he creates turnovers. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a special trait that these these safeties need to have.
Speaker 1: Fits the culture. Dan Campbell's building there for sure. I
Speaker 1: will say one of the things that I saw when
Speaker 1: watching him is the fact that he was a little
Speaker 1: feast famine at times, and a lot of that plays
Speaker 1: into inexperience. He only really played significant numbers now throughout
Speaker 1: the final part of his career in his final season,
Speaker 1: and he also he struggled in recognition at times, and
Speaker 1: that's where I see that inexperience kind of pay out.
Speaker 1: His decision making led the two touchdowns on nine total receptions,
Speaker 1: So like, he only gave up nine receptions. That's great,
Speaker 1: good numbers, solid in an entire season of collegian football,
Speaker 1: which he certainly played a lot of at Illinois. He
Speaker 1: gave up two touchdowns on the nine receptions that he
Speaker 1: gave up, so it definitely happens. Here was the Commander's
Speaker 1: selection at number ninety eight, Chase Young at the podium
Speaker 1: with the pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Washington Command to select Brian Robinson Julia running back
Speaker 1: of them. Oh yes, that's a tough dude. That was
Speaker 1: one of our masters. That was a value mock. It
Speaker 1: was it was a best player available. Let's get it done.
Speaker 1: Washington loves them some Bama man. They do Bama Man.
Speaker 1: That's the second one they've drafted. This Bama man's really tough.
Speaker 1: We talked about him a bunch the other day. I
Speaker 1: think David Adan Bama common. But Ba man's good too.
Speaker 1: I do like it. Nah bammer Man. I mean he
Speaker 1: had to watch. I mean these guys are tough. I
Speaker 1: mean we talked about this guy seriously. This is a
Speaker 1: complete back. You know we we you talk about block.
Speaker 1: I mean the Texas A and M film. I'm watching him.
Speaker 1: He has a blitz pick up. He like stones his
Speaker 1: guy now the balls said, it's like scramble mode and
Speaker 1: he's the quarterback breaks to the right and he's like
Speaker 1: goes out in the flat and catches it for like
Speaker 1: a seventeen yard game, gets a first down and all
Speaker 1: that makes a block saves his quarterback catches the ball
Speaker 1: and then gets a first down. This guy's a hell
Speaker 1: of a football player. It's like John Green there for
Speaker 1: a minute. That's a hell of a football play. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm happy that like he I guess this is his range,
Speaker 1: but I thought maybe he would go to round four.
Speaker 1: But like, good to see him get some shine. And
Speaker 1: he like clearly not as sexy as a lot of
Speaker 1: the running backs that have come out Obama, but he's
Speaker 1: a good player. I mean, we're getting near the end
Speaker 1: of the day here, and I know we've mocked it there,
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious at this point, do you think
Speaker 1: there is a running back tomorrow that they take? Now
Speaker 1: know that they take no, but I'm like, like, hey,
Speaker 1: is there a name? I'm just saying, do you think
Speaker 1: they take one tomorrow? I'm I'm losing faith that that's
Speaker 1: going to happen because like a lot of the good
Speaker 1: ones are getting. The one name I was told, like, hey,
Speaker 1: just monitor that one on Day three was Hassan Haskins. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's a big guy. Yeah, get him near the goal line.
Speaker 1: He's gonna score. He will block. If you're worried about Blospe,
Speaker 1: he'll do it. You're right. I won't rule it out
Speaker 1: because they have four or fifth round picks, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, with with some of these
Speaker 1: top end guys going earlier than a lot of people projected.
Speaker 1: With the pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns select David Bell Wide. Okay, this is interesting. Right,
Speaker 1: So this is a guy that is could have been
Speaker 1: in that conversation not nearly up to the standard of
Speaker 1: a Jalen Tolbert in that conversation. But David Bell huge
Speaker 1: catch radius, but he might be a little bit slow. Brian,
Speaker 1: it's kind of the scouting about him. I hate great
Speaker 1: Karloft just made him run of forty and like twenty
Speaker 1: degree weather. I hate Wait, somebody corrected me, Like they
Speaker 1: have an indoor Yeah, hell yeah they do, Yeah they do.
Speaker 1: And like Karloft is like, let's all go take our
Speaker 1: shirts off and run outside. David Bill goes, I don't
Speaker 1: run very fast indoors. Why do you make me run outside?
Speaker 1: Because like him, karloftus damn it, you know the poor kids. Seriously,
Speaker 1: he could probably run better, and then the scout's gonna
Speaker 1: go outside and like mark off forty yards he ran
Speaker 1: a four six five For those wondering, Yeah, I hate
Speaker 1: wide receiver. That's really low. I hate to be underwear
Speaker 1: Olympics guy. But like when I saw those times, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know about this. The second time
Speaker 1: Dave has cried because if Brian making his laugh, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sure to tell you about the guy makes a
Speaker 1: lot of plays. Tell me about David. It's the guy.
Speaker 1: Guy makes a ton of plays on Karloft. Just we're
Speaker 1: running outside, so I mean, seriously, you see a little scouts,
Speaker 1: They're all look at each other like, okay, all the
Speaker 1: young scouts go out in time. The older scouts will
Speaker 1: stay behind and keep warm with the Arizona Cardinal. Here's
Speaker 1: another one. This is right where Dane had him hundred
Speaker 1: players get all the way to the playoffs. Credit to
Speaker 1: Dan Brigley. Again done Brian, two of my favorite players
Speaker 1: in the early draft process. That kind of fell back
Speaker 1: down my board as we went along. But my J. Sanders,
Speaker 1: I rave about my J. Sanders. I think he's te
Speaker 1: us about him. Go ahead, yeah, I'm pulling up to
Speaker 1: scouting report two time. F' just I've got too many
Speaker 1: players trying to catch up from laughing. All right, explosive
Speaker 1: first step. That's the best thing about my J. Sanders
Speaker 1: off the ball. I mean, he is just as quick
Speaker 1: as anybody. When watching him at the Senior Bowl practices,
Speaker 1: they would line him up, all the edge rushers together,
Speaker 1: then they would they would snap the ball and all
Speaker 1: of them would get off. You could see the comparison,
Speaker 1: My J. Sanders was a half a step ahead of everybody.
Speaker 1: You can see it on film. At the same time. There,
Speaker 1: he's got a lengthy frame. He can get it up
Speaker 1: to speed. Whenever he's got a little bit of a
Speaker 1: chance to get going, he's going to be that stand
Speaker 1: up rush in. Because of that, I think I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily think he's as good with his hand in the ground.
Speaker 1: Great in the run game. He can go side to side.
Speaker 1: He has that later ability. He can chase down guys
Speaker 1: from a sideline to sideline standpoint, and he never gives
Speaker 1: up on a play. That's one of the biggest things.
Speaker 1: His motor is top notch. I really do like my J.
Speaker 1: Sanders top one hundred player, no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 1: I think this is great value for Cleveland here. I
Speaker 1: think you nailed the player. I think you absolutely got
Speaker 1: the guy right, I really do. I didn't nail the team.
Speaker 1: He didn't get drafted by Cleveland, got drafted by the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: But that's still a fantastic It's a fantastic pick. Mess
Speaker 1: that one up David Bell was Cleveland. I put it
Speaker 1: wrong on my sheet, So George Karloftay, I just love
Speaker 1: the idea of Karlft to say I'm carlst Like he
Speaker 1: just walked around saying that. He's say, poor kids had
Speaker 1: to run outside. They're like, hey, bro, do we really
Speaker 1: have to go outside? We got this dude, Yes, I'm Karloft.
Speaker 1: We got some astronauts that donated this endormus. I remember
Speaker 1: I was like, Perdue, you're in the Big ten. Can't
Speaker 1: we get it in? And somebody'll say stadium, No, we
Speaker 1: got to work outside. Somebody's like, we've got one man,
Speaker 1: they just did this outside. I did like on Twitter
Speaker 1: when they said, well black Betty Bama man. This is
Speaker 1: usually the type of content you get on day three.
Speaker 1: We're not weird already. There top one hundred picks are
Speaker 1: in the books. Everybody. Let's reset the board because of that,
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the players that are still available. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna run down my board. Perry On Winfrey still available,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma interior defensive lineman. You've got Darien Kinnard from Kentucky.
Speaker 1: He's still on that board as well. I would be
Speaker 1: surprised if either one of those guys doesn't get plucked
Speaker 1: on the back end of this third round here. I
Speaker 1: really would if they if they lasted day three, I
Speaker 1: would be shocked. Channingtondall from Georgia, Leo'shanelle from Wisconsin, Daniel
Speaker 1: Filele from Minnesota, Kay Dot and Washington to Moan Clark
Speaker 1: from LSU, and Verne McKinley from Oregon. All off the board, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like I had Winfrey too high from Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Maybe I think I'm there too. I think I felt
Speaker 1: like that. You know, was he playing as a one?
Speaker 1: Was he playing as a three? You know, he played
Speaker 1: a lot of head up nose again, there might be
Speaker 1: a medical issue there with that whole thing. Maybe slow
Speaker 1: foot again, maybe a little slow footo. But then if
Speaker 1: you're gonna play him inside, does it matter a ton No?
Speaker 1: But does he want to play tacklers? He want to
Speaker 1: play guard? I mean, I guess at some point it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what he thinks. It's whatever team picks him,
Speaker 1: especially the further down the board. You fall, do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. However, Yeah, I think I think you're
Speaker 1: spot on. I think it's the combination of where do
Speaker 1: you play him at guard or at tackle? And then
Speaker 1: maybe the laboring with his movement, because he definitely liked
Speaker 1: I liked Sean Ryan. I'm surprised Sean Ryan went ahead
Speaker 1: of Darren Kennard and you liked. I like Sean Ryan
Speaker 1: more than most people did. I have Canard and the
Speaker 1: second myself. I mean, if you if you look at
Speaker 1: my second round guys that I have left, I've got three.
Speaker 1: Winfrey how from a North Carolina the quarterback. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wear that one. And Canard I wear that as much
Speaker 1: as you think. He may go down the board. But
Speaker 1: now you guys that are worth the Senior Bowl Winfrey
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Gay Yeah, massive, small guy and I did
Speaker 1: it work out really well for him? Kenn of VP Chez, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think I didn't. I mean, I think that's a maybe,
Speaker 1: that's a medical thing. I could. You were just saying, like, oh,
Speaker 1: is he want is he at three? I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he can when you watch when
Speaker 1: you watch him play it at Oklahoma, it was always
Speaker 1: like a head up and then we always start those
Speaker 1: Oklahoma guys, It's like, is it the scheme that kills them?
Speaker 1: Is it? You know what's going on? Here? Jet Selection?
Speaker 1: Here we go one, Here we go Hall, New Hall
Speaker 1: and Jos Vegas was good Vegas, Saint Petere New York,
Speaker 1: New Jersey. We're in the build. Did let's go with
Speaker 1: the under that one pick in twenty twenty twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two drive to New York to New Jersey Jets select
Speaker 1: Jeremy Records from Ohio State. There's a tight end, guys.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys had their eyes on him, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Ohio State tight end, Jeremy ruckerd He was a thirty
Speaker 1: busy guy. And that leaves really, Kate, that's it. That's
Speaker 1: all that's left on the board from their tight ends
Speaker 1: that we had at least entering today as a thirty.
Speaker 1: I mean, I still think I think they like I
Speaker 1: think they like Bellinger, I think they like Ferguson. I
Speaker 1: think in a certain range they like they would like
Speaker 1: Isaiah Likeley at Coastal. And remember that Kelvin Moore went
Speaker 1: and didn't workout at Iowa State. I was state, so
Speaker 1: Kohler might be in that mix as well. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and the thirty visit list is incredibly valuable, but we're
Speaker 1: at the point in the draft now where it means
Speaker 1: less than it used to like. It means less to
Speaker 1: me now at this point. I mean, they didn't visit Tilbert. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't visit. They met with him at the combine though, right,
Speaker 1: and but I mean didn't come out too Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we didn't ever. Trying to run down all their
Speaker 1: formals of the combine is a little tough. But like
Speaker 1: I mean, they could have met with any number of
Speaker 1: the tight ends. I know that, like, for instance, formal
Speaker 1: of the combine they did have one with Isaiah Likely Yes,
Speaker 1: it did. Ferguson as well. Kohler was there and Widermeyer
Speaker 1: as well, so they am McBride. So they met with
Speaker 1: wider Wider Though I don't know that he gets drafted.
Speaker 1: I'm right through with you. I think he's off the board.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break real quickly. One oh
Speaker 1: five three. The fan Dallas Cowboys dot Com coverage of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft is still rolling on.
Speaker 1: I'm getting told we do not have to take a breaker.
Speaker 1: There's only like flocks left. Okay, Yeah, let's let's not
Speaker 1: take a break. Then we're gonna stay right here. I
Speaker 1: was looking at the clock. I thought I was behind
Speaker 1: on a break. But we're gonna stay right here. Good news, everybody.
Speaker 1: So let's keep talking about Jeremy Rucker. That's one of
Speaker 1: the things. A great head of hair there. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: does have a great head of hair. He has a
Speaker 1: lower body injury too. He showed up with a boot
Speaker 1: on to the Star when he did his thirty visit,
Speaker 1: so he had a boot on his left foot either way.
Speaker 1: So said he should be good to go by the
Speaker 1: time training camp is there, but something to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on, at least for his movement going forward. Now,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are on the cliff on the clock right
Speaker 1: now at one oh two, followed by the Chiefs, the Rams,
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, only four picks left here. I
Speaker 1: was just looking at you. We all smirked at different
Speaker 1: things at the same time. Answers I Alost went to
Speaker 1: Karlofti's voice again. I'm Karloftus. I'm smirking at the picture
Speaker 1: of Richard this semi sized well. Larry Sankas, pointing at
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl rig, say, I'm Larry Asanka. It's another
Speaker 1: for me to be here celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of
Speaker 1: a coach. Don's Julius nineteen seventy two undefeated Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: with a hundred and second pick in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select Channing Keen Doll
Speaker 1: linebacker Georgia. Good player, good value at this point in
Speaker 1: the draft, one pick one oh two. Now, there was
Speaker 1: some off the field question marks here, right at least
Speaker 1: we had talked about it earlier. I think there was
Speaker 1: some question marks. Eyes I talked to around the league
Speaker 1: that said, when you watch George's defense, with this guy,
Speaker 1: they have to line him up that others around him
Speaker 1: line him up. But he is a hell of a
Speaker 1: football player when it comes to run, chase, hit, finish
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. He might be a guy that
Speaker 1: you have to just kind of put out there and
Speaker 1: let him go and you know, maybe figure out some
Speaker 1: things for him to do. But you know, you watch again,
Speaker 1: you watch the Georgia tape, and these guys all show up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, it's a race to get to the ball,
Speaker 1: and they very deserving national champ. But again, some scouts
Speaker 1: I was talking to were saying, hey, just kind of
Speaker 1: beat be aware. You might have to coach him up
Speaker 1: a little bit. But there's a lot of players. Squints
Speaker 1: is fired up there in the Dolphins war room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yes he is. He is pumped. Don't talk about my
Speaker 1: guy like that. Are you telling him he does not
Speaker 1: look like squints? He just he's guys. I love the
Speaker 1: fact that a guy who looks kind of like me
Speaker 1: is a head. I walked past him at the combine
Speaker 1: and like he is shot, Like we're basically the same dude.
Speaker 1: My favorite, my favorite clip is when they asked him
Speaker 1: about basically fitely not. I mean, he's a great coach.
Speaker 1: My favorite ask him about the laugh. Were you guys
Speaker 1: interested in acquiring Tom Brady? And he's like Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: He's like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's just he He cracks me up just the way
Speaker 1: he handles media everything. But he's the first like millennial NFL. Yes,
Speaker 1: In the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs select Leo Chanel. Yeah, there you go, christonsin. God,
Speaker 1: why is everybody stumbling over saying twenty twenty two? I
Speaker 1: don't know. It feels kind of tough because like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I do it, dude, I've done it, damn
Speaker 1: near every time I've done the draft show, every time
Speaker 1: I say the date, Yeah it happens. Leo Chanelle linebacker
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin. I mean, by the time he became a
Speaker 1: full time starter linebacker in twenty twenty, he was one
Speaker 1: of the most feared hitters in the Big Ten. Brian
Speaker 1: massive body packs. Upon lunch on D's back, you mentioned
Speaker 1: old school, big beefy linebacker. Yeah, this is this is
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six New York giant type guy, and Kansas
Speaker 1: City took him. You know, Kansas has done a nice
Speaker 1: job with their linebackers, done a nice job with their
Speaker 1: defense too. Overall, he's done. I like their draft a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah they do. They you know, they don't car Loftist
Speaker 1: sky more. Yeah, they know what they're doing up there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's but that's what you're talking about. Old
Speaker 1: school linebacker. Probably a better blitzer than cover guy because
Speaker 1: he you know, in the Big Ten, it's like those
Speaker 1: guards aren't used to that guy that big, you know,
Speaker 1: coming from distance and then slamming in him. But he
Speaker 1: does a great job of creating pressure, tackles for loss,
Speaker 1: you know, getting to the outside stuff like that. I
Speaker 1: was super impressed. I'm thinking, like, man, this guy like
Speaker 1: he could have played way way back in the day.
Speaker 1: You know, as as far as what his body type.
Speaker 1: Looks like Wisconsin didn't really use him in coverage a
Speaker 1: whole lot. No, because he can't can't change, No, he can't.
Speaker 1: He's just a straight ahead just slamming there, like bowling
Speaker 1: a china shop, you know, banging off everything, that kind
Speaker 1: of a thing. I mean, that's he's a he's a
Speaker 1: nice player, but yeah, don't put him the coverage. I
Speaker 1: like the pairing because Nick Bolton's there now, right yep.
Speaker 1: I would say the pairing of letting Nick Bolton go
Speaker 1: side to side and letting Leo Chanelle go up and down.
Speaker 1: I like that a lot, honestly. From a second level,
Speaker 1: from the Kansas City standpoint that was, this is a
Speaker 1: pairing to completely flip flop the strengths of Nick Bolton,
Speaker 1: who was drafted, of course, a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: Frisco Texas Products. Here's the Rams first pick of the
Speaker 1: draft Super Bowl Champions at one oh four. It is
Speaker 1: such an honor to be here to help pick the
Speaker 1: first pick from the raining world champion Rams. Are they
Speaker 1: sober for this pick? I'll get it. Turn it over
Speaker 1: to franchise rushing leader mister Stephen Jackson. Pipe Down Pipe
Speaker 1: Down Worldstown as a kid that grew up in this
Speaker 1: town six miles from here. I had the same dream
Speaker 1: that I'm about to present. What I want to tell
Speaker 1: everybody that has a dream, I always remember, like this town,
Speaker 1: better yourself. And with that the hundred cork pick. In
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the law fansins ran
Speaker 1: select Logan Bruss guard Wisconsin back to Backsconis on Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: Took a little bit for him to get off the board,
Speaker 1: but now there's a run of Wisconsin. Yeah, I'll see
Speaker 1: you this guy, and he's projected. I was watching him.
Speaker 1: He's a right tackle when you watch him play at
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin and uh, you know, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that project him to play guard in the league.
Speaker 1: So let me get to my notes here as I
Speaker 1: always do. But yeah, he's one of those guys you
Speaker 1: know when you watch him play, not really really overly pretty,
Speaker 1: that the way that he does things. But I mean
Speaker 1: he is super, super super tough when it comes to
Speaker 1: like he'll he'll get on blocks and he won't. I
Speaker 1: mean he's like glue, velcrow, whatever you want to say.
Speaker 1: He like sticks on guys. And you know it was
Speaker 1: I have to say that I mean, when you watch
Speaker 1: him play the first game of the year was like
Speaker 1: Penn State, and then you watched him play towards the end,
Speaker 1: like to the Ohio State and other people like that, Michigan,
Speaker 1: you know, Penn State. In those games, there's nothing sexy
Speaker 1: about his game, but he comes off the ball the
Speaker 1: initial quickness. He's gonna he's gonna get into his guy,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get pushed. There's a couple of snaps where
Speaker 1: he got knocked off balance a little bit and ended
Speaker 1: up on the ground, but overall, I felt like he
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job of staying in position. He's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a wide base blocker, so sometimes
Speaker 1: that gets him in a little bit of trouble, but
Speaker 1: his grip strength, you know, is the way he blocks.
Speaker 1: I think is super impressed With one pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the San Francisco forty nine
Speaker 1: ers select Danny Gray receiver. There you go, congratulations to
Speaker 1: Danny Gray. Local products you. That's a guy like if
Speaker 1: they if it hadn't worked out for them where they
Speaker 1: got a receiver on Day one or two, that's a
Speaker 1: guy that I liked that we're trying to get on
Speaker 1: day three. What doesn't matter now, but I think he's
Speaker 1: a good player. Him out of him and Reggie Robertson
Speaker 1: were two guys that out of SMU that could be
Speaker 1: in that conversation. Uh yeah, Raiders were really high on him.
Speaker 1: Maybe the thought I think the Raiders hope to get
Speaker 1: him on day three. Maybe slighter than what he's six
Speaker 1: foot one seven, yeah, but like not the smallest guy.
Speaker 1: But you know, but this guy, I mean, this guy
Speaker 1: makes explosive play screens, drags, vertical balls, super productive when
Speaker 1: he's finishing. He has a knack for bringing the ball
Speaker 1: down and clutched times for a smaller guy. I thought
Speaker 1: he really did a good job of fighting for the ball.
Speaker 1: He doesn't let the defender bully him at all. In
Speaker 1: the air, defenders have trouble staying with him due to
Speaker 1: his speed. Their separation in a hurry can close the cushion.
Speaker 1: He's even faster. I mean, he's got those natural tracking
Speaker 1: skills downfill. At times he'll attack, He'll make grabs over
Speaker 1: the shoulder front of defenders. Just a super instinctive player
Speaker 1: after catch, I mean multiple gears when him running them
Speaker 1: with the football. I want to circle back, really quickly
Speaker 1: to a player that was taken there by the Rams,
Speaker 1: Logan Brusts, the interior offensive lineman, maybe tackle out of Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: I think that was a later target for the Cowboys specifically.
Speaker 1: I've got it one. He's a tough dude. I had
Speaker 1: him in the final mock draft. I thought they were
Speaker 1: going to at least look at him day three. I
Speaker 1: don't know how early, maybe fourth round. Maybe it could
Speaker 1: have lasted till the fifth one of those four fifth
Speaker 1: round picks. But I bet they're not done taking a
Speaker 1: gander at the old offensive line with they got six
Speaker 1: picks tomorrow. That's the thing. You got your guy Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith in the first round. You feel good about that.
Speaker 1: At least's front office feels good about that. You don't
Speaker 1: have to go and doubled but the interior offensive line spot.
Speaker 1: But I think if they would have, I think Logan
Speaker 1: bruss was certainly a guy that they could have had
Speaker 1: that conversation with. All Right, that does it here for
Speaker 1: Day three as the forty nine ers wrapped things up.
Speaker 1: Final thoughts Sam Williams at pick number fifty six, the
Speaker 1: edge rusher from Old Miss eighty eight, Jaylen Tilbert wide
Speaker 1: receivers from South Alabama. The Cowboys have hit their three
Speaker 1: biggest needs. Now they have what tight end to look
Speaker 1: forward to tomorrow that's gonna be hunting that Yeah, funny
Speaker 1: how that works. No musts, but the big three you
Speaker 1: get checked off one, two, three, Boom boom boom. That's
Speaker 1: my that's my big impression, which I mean in totality.
Speaker 1: I feel good about it, Like I feel good about
Speaker 1: what I think. I think the favorite for first pick
Speaker 1: tomorrow's tight end. Whoever. Yeah, I think if we would
Speaker 1: have come in this day and we just said, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get an end and they're gonna get a receiver.
Speaker 1: But we had we probably thought the order was opposite. Yep.
Speaker 1: I think they got the two guys they absolutely wanted.
Speaker 1: I just think that it was a good day for
Speaker 1: them in that war room. I belief. I tell people
Speaker 1: all the time, like you go into a draft thinking like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's like it could be any of these sixty guys,
Speaker 1: and up in the war room it's really more like five.
Speaker 1: It's really more like five that they're even thinking about taking.
Speaker 1: And I think they got. I think they got two
Speaker 1: that were really high up in their estimations. So good
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah. Now, and regardless of what the response,
Speaker 1: maybe elsewhere they really liked the guy they got in
Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah, I think no, No, absolutely, they're
Speaker 1: very happy with their first three picks. I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: lot happier about it tonight than I probably was last night.
Speaker 1: I think I got a lot more excited about it
Speaker 1: talking to people around the league last night and this morning.
Speaker 1: Who you got a sense that there were the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were not on an island on that player. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of people who think, like, in terms of
Speaker 1: the potential, tried to come get it, Jerry Sidwayne doing that.
Speaker 1: There there's a feeling across the league that if you're
Speaker 1: talking about like and I know Brian hates this term ceiling,
Speaker 1: we'll use the word potential. A lot of people feel
Speaker 1: like the highest potential there in this draft class at
Speaker 1: the offensive line is with him with Tyler Smith. Fam
Speaker 1: I tried to come get him before he turned pro.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that says something to me. Honestly,
Speaker 1: What time we draft tomorrow? Ten am? Something like that?
Speaker 1: Ten am? All right, right back at it. We've got
Speaker 1: a lot to do. The Cowboys have a ton of
Speaker 1: picks tomorrow, four of which in the fifth round. You've
Speaker 1: got one pick in the fourth round and one pick
Speaker 1: in the sixth round, and then we may be sitting
Speaker 1: for the final round. That's gonna be some fun radio,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much right now. Be sure to
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Speaker 1: helped pulled us off again tonight. Kevin Timmins, Chris Beam,
Speaker 1: Tim Collins, Jasmine Marshall, Alex Lily for bringing in our
Speaker 1: great friends over in Miller Lytton hooking us up for
Speaker 1: the draft pick of Sam Williams at fifty six. We
Speaker 1: are not done yet, still got three or day three
Speaker 1: to talk about tomorrow. Four rounds to go. Rounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: numbers are hard. That's gonna do it for us. Here
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