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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. And
Speaker 2: it's Wednesday, which means it's our turn to do a
Speaker 2: little mock draft madness here. All right, all right, we're
Speaker 2: gonna use the Pro Footballnetwork dot com mockdrafter today. And
Speaker 2: we're up at pick twenty one and we have two
Speaker 2: trade offers. The first one is from the Rams. They're
Speaker 2: offering us they want twenty one and pick two twenty nine. Okay,
Speaker 2: they're offering us pick twenty six and next year's second.
Speaker 3: I bet we could get more out of them. Could
Speaker 3: we get a fourth this year thrown in or something
Speaker 3: like that. Typically they don't do that on this one,
Speaker 3: but how the simulator works, they usually come to you
Speaker 3: with their best office. Oh really, it's not like okay.
Speaker 2: Uh, The Vikings are offering pick twenty four and next
Speaker 2: year's fourth for pick twenty one that sign.
Speaker 3: Off a playoff team's fourth round picks that move up
Speaker 3: in the first round. Come on, the guy's still available.
Speaker 3: Right now. Jalen Walker, linebacker out of Georgia, that might
Speaker 3: be the target of on these teams. Yeah, maybe not
Speaker 3: those two, particularly.
Speaker 2: James Pierce, the edge rusher out of Tennessee. John Ay Barron,
Speaker 2: cornerback out of Texas, Chavon Ravelle, cornerback out of East Carolina,
Speaker 2: Josh Simmons, offensive tackle a lot of Ohio State. Colston
Speaker 2: Loveland the tight end out of Michigan. Nick Scourton, edge
Speaker 2: rusher out of Texas, A and m A. Mecca at
Speaker 2: BUCA wide receiver out of Ohio State. He ran a
Speaker 2: four to four eight today at.
Speaker 3: Ohio Okay, notorious fast track or using at Ohio State,
Speaker 3: so automatic. I'm gonna add point zero five to that.
Speaker 3: So he's really a four mid four five. That's like
Speaker 3: how he plays too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Luther Burden the wide receiver out of Missouri. Ty Leek Williams,
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle out of Ohio State who apparently pulled
Speaker 2: a hamstring today while he was running his flow.
Speaker 3: He's not gonna run forty yards.
Speaker 2: I don't care if he was running forties. Gray's Abel Walter, Nolan,
Speaker 2: Donovan Azeriku, Kenneth Grant is there, Amarion Hampton running back
Speaker 2: out of North Carolina, Donovan Jackson. There's there's some targets there.
Speaker 2: If we wanted to move down with.
Speaker 3: Grant and Nolan still available, I'm all for trading down.
Speaker 3: I don't know the sites. Are the simulators well enough.
Speaker 3: I'm not super interested in next year's fourth, sort of
Speaker 3: interested in next year second, but I would prefer this year.
Speaker 3: So yeah, because I know it's tough from where you
Speaker 3: sit too to make a move trading next year's third
Speaker 3: in the RAMS second so we can get the fiftieth
Speaker 3: pick in the draft this year, you know, and that's
Speaker 3: not always easy to pull off. And I don't know
Speaker 3: if teams want future picks, if they want to got
Speaker 3: out of the second, you know. Yeah, but we can't
Speaker 3: really counter.
Speaker 2: RAMS don't have a second this year problem, So we
Speaker 2: could accept that, bump back five spots, and then try
Speaker 2: to trade.
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. I mean, we opened the show
Speaker 3: saying it's a fair deal. It's not a bad offer
Speaker 3: at all, right, I mean, I do think that's a
Speaker 3: late second most likely. I don't think they're gonna pick
Speaker 3: the top ten, which is something you have to think about.
Speaker 3: But you never know. Iford got hurt I didn't think
Speaker 3: Washington would be a final fourteen. Rather, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: for it, but it is going to be stressful on
Speaker 3: you if there's some kind of target of ours. That's
Speaker 3: hard to you know, because we really only have future
Speaker 3: picks to offer. Yeah, I don't really want to get
Speaker 3: rid of the third this year. Yeah, let me see
Speaker 3: what else. Well, but all this could end up landing
Speaker 3: your next Pat Mahomes, folks, your next with Ben Roethlisberger, Right,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a year down the road it takes.
Speaker 3: If you get the same guy at twenty six that
Speaker 3: you would have taken a twenty one, which to me
Speaker 3: is probably Grant or Nolan. Well, then I got a
Speaker 3: second round pick next year, all right, would you really
Speaker 3: accept it? Yeah? That's fun, all right, Actually happens right,
Speaker 3: all right, So.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna move out of this year real quick. They
Speaker 2: did come up for Jalen Walker.
Speaker 3: Okay, not really even a need for the Rams, but
Speaker 3: I'm sure he was high on everyone's board.
Speaker 2: Then John ay Barron went James Pearce, Chavon Revel Nick
Speaker 2: Scourton to the Cowboys. Okay, great, we're up at twenty
Speaker 2: six and we do have again another trade offer.
Speaker 3: We have two.
Speaker 2: Actually, the Bears are offering pick thirty and next year's
Speaker 2: third for a twenty six.
Speaker 3: Loaded with picks twenty six.
Speaker 2: Now yeah, yeah, the Chargers are offering fifty five, eighty six,
Speaker 2: next year's two and next year's three for pick twenty six.
Speaker 3: That's getting I mean, it's fair. But I'd like to
Speaker 3: make something a little crazy, right, What about do you
Speaker 3: want to do the the other one? The first one? Oh? Really,
Speaker 3: I want to make a pick. We only moved down.
Speaker 3: I mean we would be moving.
Speaker 2: Down past Baltimore, Detroit, Washington, and Washington because it looks.
Speaker 3: Like Washington twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Buffalo traded up, No, just Washington. Once Buffalo traded
Speaker 2: up to go get Derek Carmen at twenty. They moved
Speaker 2: up ahead of us.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that doesn't mean if we move back, some
Speaker 3: of these other teams can, Like somebody at Kansas City
Speaker 3: could bump up ahead of us. They could. I'd rather
Speaker 3: just take the player, that's fine. I mean the future
Speaker 3: pick doesn't do us all that much good for today, honestly.
Speaker 3: But Nolan or Grant gone back and forth on that too,
Speaker 3: Like I.
Speaker 2: Mean, we talked about it yesterday and I think Nolan
Speaker 2: is harder to find in this draft.
Speaker 3: Kicking it around because I really like the draft too,
Speaker 3: and it's much easier to do if you take Nolan
Speaker 3: now verse Grant. But I also think Grant could be
Speaker 3: bent and be nose or end or you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Like he's he could kill only one, he
Speaker 3: can handle both spots. Yeah, throw one in late. It's
Speaker 3: a really developmental guy. Let's say Nolan. Okay, Walter Nolan,
Speaker 3: it is. I love the fourth round. Nose tackles is
Speaker 3: basically where we come from.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pause this thing in the middle two of
Speaker 2: round two and see if we can maybe what's an
Speaker 2: angle something to get up back up in there. All right,
Speaker 2: we're at forty eight now, Kenneth Grant still available, crazy,
Speaker 2: I'd be interested. Well, in that case, that might be
Speaker 2: a target if we're trying to get give up a
Speaker 2: lot for him right now. So Miami is up. Let's
Speaker 2: see if Miami would be interested, we would give up
Speaker 2: the Rams two. They're gonna want this year's third though,
Speaker 2: that's what makes it. Harry, I'm going to offer what
Speaker 2: about the Steelers. I'm gonna offer our second next year's
Speaker 2: third that's.
Speaker 3: Really our bargaining chips. That's what makes it tough for
Speaker 3: pick forty eight. Yeah, they might accept that, they might not.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a fair offer, right, right, right, they
Speaker 3: just don't get the pictus. They declined it. Okay, you're
Speaker 3: gonna let it go. Three or four more picks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if somebody else, I mean, if Grant
Speaker 2: stays on, the stays available, I'm gonna try again. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're at fifty two a Seahawks. With the Seahawks, this
Speaker 2: is where.
Speaker 3: We would have picked original I'm going to but I
Speaker 3: would definitely give up the Steelers third in the Rams
Speaker 3: second next year for Kenneth Grant, even without a doubt. Yeah,
Speaker 3: without a doubt, without matter. If you've got no one
Speaker 3: and Grant, right, I mean, I'd forget it. It might
Speaker 3: be done.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't care what else I get strapped.
Speaker 2: All right, So Seattle, I'm going to offer them the
Speaker 2: two and a three for the fifty second pick. They
Speaker 2: rejected it.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough because I mean, I know this
Speaker 3: is computer, this isn't real people. But if you want
Speaker 3: picks this year, if you want to pick this year,
Speaker 3: we're not helping you, right, And I don't really want
Speaker 3: to get rid of the third. No, and he just
Speaker 3: went okay, he goes Green Bay took him. Good for them.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, all right, we're gonna resume here. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: pause again here it's top A round three.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the second round went by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Judkins is still there, okay. Uh Brayden Swinson address
Speaker 2: red of Velashue, Darius Alexander is still there, Treveon Henderson
Speaker 2: is still there. Jalen Nowell, Alfred.
Speaker 3: Collins, Collins is interesting, guy is interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I could try to get up here, Kansas
Speaker 2: City is the team who's on the clock here.
Speaker 3: Probably with the Titaness pig. Now I think about it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna real quick, would you give up this
Speaker 3: year's third and next year's third for Judkins? That's what
Speaker 3: we're gonna try. Well, I don't know, We're not gonna.
Speaker 3: I don't want to give up. It's a different conversation.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you're at eighty three? Now, would I
Speaker 2: give up next year's third? Then becomes the question, knowing
Speaker 2: that I have a compensatory pick.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would definitely give up the third and
Speaker 3: next year's fourth. We also now have an extra second
Speaker 3: next year. That's I mean, you're sitting on a one, two, two's,
Speaker 3: maybe three threes, probably two threes and a bunch of four's.
Speaker 2: Would I be happy, though, just getting out of this
Speaker 2: draft Nolan and Judkins.
Speaker 3: And be loaded for next year? Yeah? I mean, and
Speaker 3: you get some spare pieces. But right, that's my question.
Speaker 3: Would you give up next year's third in this third?
Speaker 3: I would offer this year's third and next year's fourth.
Speaker 2: That's I think going to be I'm going to offer.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna offer our pick one twenty three.
Speaker 3: And Judkins is our target? Is that what we agree with?
Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah? I mean I'm interested in Collins too.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna offer pick one twenty three in next year's
Speaker 2: third one, that's our fourth round pick. I would draft
Speaker 2: that and next year's third, and would keep.
Speaker 3: Our third for this year. Yeah. Oh, I would do
Speaker 3: that in heartbeat. I don't think they're going to say yes.
Speaker 3: Find out yeah for pick sixty six. No, they rejected that. Okay,
Speaker 3: I can sweeten it a little bit. Would you do.
Speaker 2: Where they at? Kansas City? Where are you at?
Speaker 3: How about this year's you offered this year's fourth and
Speaker 3: next year's third. Would you give up the Rams second
Speaker 3: straight up for Judkins?
Speaker 2: I think I would, yeah, because it's about it's going
Speaker 2: to be in the similar area and next year's draft
Speaker 2: to get back get Judkins right now.
Speaker 3: I think I would. Yeah, I'll give you next year's
Speaker 3: two hours or the Rams.
Speaker 2: I'll even throw in a sweet I'll give you like
Speaker 2: a six next year because we got two of those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they'd have to get out
Speaker 3: of this draft. But that was rejected. Okay, turning down
Speaker 3: at two for next year, you're gonna let it roll
Speaker 3: three or four picks we can miss is an early
Speaker 3: three and you're offering a late two a year from now. Well,
Speaker 3: he's gone, okay and our pick is almost up. It
Speaker 3: went very fast. Took him, We took him. Oh, the
Speaker 3: Chiefs took him. So there you go.
Speaker 2: They were on the dude, sat on their guy, all right,
Speaker 2: So we're back. What's sitting there, Trevon Henderson, I'm interested?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Jalen Noel interested.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver out of Iowa State, Mason Taylor, tight end
Speaker 2: out of LSU Xavier or Strepo. Wide receiver from Miami.
Speaker 2: Denzel Burke cornerback out of Ohio State, Barrett Carter, linebacker
Speaker 2: at Clemson, Chris Paul, linebacker at of Ole Miss Omar
Speaker 2: Norman Lott, defensive tackle to Tennessee. Ashton Gillette at dresser
Speaker 2: out of Louisville. DJ Giddons running back out of k State,
Speaker 2: Elijah Rojo quinn Ewers is there at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: Cam Scattabo running back out of Arizona State.
Speaker 3: I think it was on Noel and Henderson.
Speaker 2: Well, Howard is there, quarterback out of Ohio State. Josh
Speaker 2: Farmer still there.
Speaker 3: I bet there's a couple noses around from now though.
Speaker 3: Do you have to take Henderson? I think you do.
Speaker 3: I mean that's a nice value getting him that late. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a Noel fan. I hate kind of walking away
Speaker 3: from him because it's kind of a gift. But where
Speaker 3: you sit right now, someone's got k ball.
Speaker 2: Somebody's got to carry the ball. Henderson's very good in past.
Speaker 3: Protection, which is really rare in this running back, really rare. Yeah,
Speaker 3: two things I've really noticed lately. None of the wide
Speaker 3: receiver's block and none of the running backs for good
Speaker 3: and protection. And I think it's just Nil. I got
Speaker 3: millions in the bank. I'm a ball. They're just acting
Speaker 3: like they're professionals. Big man on campus nowadays, they don't
Speaker 3: people to do the dirty working.
Speaker 2: And I know Travon Henderson showed up at the combine.
Speaker 3: At two oh two bigger than that. He plays about
Speaker 3: two ten. He's not a he's not a small back,
Speaker 3: right right, right? No, I got no problem. I mean,
Speaker 3: and again he is willing to get his nose dirty.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you told me today the genie comes
Speaker 3: out of the bottle, you trade your third round pick
Speaker 3: for Henderson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the number one running back recruit in
Speaker 2: the country and we got the number one overall recruit
Speaker 2: in the country.
Speaker 3: Oh right, right, right, Okay, guys are high pedigree dudes
Speaker 3: that Oh yeah, yeah, I could take Henderson. I think
Speaker 3: he's just fine with it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then the question becomes, you want to try to trade
Speaker 2: back up again, can we?
Speaker 3: I would consider Noel or a d tackle or Noel
Speaker 3: is still there at pick ninety the Rams are up,
Speaker 3: Would the Rams take him? Would they take there? Would
Speaker 3: you offer your second round or straight up for him?
Speaker 3: Give it back to them, yeah yeah, or give them
Speaker 3: our second round pick, not a two for a pick ninety.
Speaker 3: I don't. I'd say, I think that's as rich as
Speaker 3: I would even consider.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna rams we already did business ones, let's
Speaker 2: see if we can do it again here, because they
Speaker 2: have pick one oh one coming up too, they could
Speaker 2: be willing to now they haven't made a pick since
Speaker 2: the first round.
Speaker 3: Doubt it would get it done. But with our fourth
Speaker 3: this year and our fourth next year, get you a
Speaker 3: no L no h, it's coming in kind of cheap there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: how about your fourth this year and a third next year?
Speaker 3: And is that worth it to us? It's probably a
Speaker 3: nose at four.
Speaker 2: I would want to get something back from them later
Speaker 2: in this draft too. They've got a bunch of They've
Speaker 2: got a bunch of picks coming up. If I'm trading,
Speaker 2: if you get a five, or even if I'm trading
Speaker 2: a three next year, which I've already bumped up from
Speaker 2: my two that they already gave me, it's like having
Speaker 2: that extra third already.
Speaker 3: But I just moved it ahead of a full.
Speaker 2: Round, more than a full round really, because that's a
Speaker 2: compensate a compensatory pick.
Speaker 3: And now we're.
Speaker 2: So I give them one twenty three if I offer
Speaker 2: them one twenty three in next year's.
Speaker 3: Third for this pick and question mark, let's say pick
Speaker 3: one ninety. It's fair.
Speaker 2: They accepted it, okay, all right, so now we can
Speaker 2: you want to take Jalen Noel here? Yeah, yeah, wait
Speaker 2: a second, it accepted it, and then we didn't get
Speaker 2: to make the pick, and we didn't and we didn't
Speaker 2: have our four.
Speaker 3: They took our picks and didn't give us a player.
Speaker 2: What the heck's going on here with this? Unless unless
Speaker 2: it did give me Noel and I missed.
Speaker 3: Well, we can pretend that on our screen it says
Speaker 3: we has no L. Even the people watching don't know.
Speaker 2: Instead, the Carolina Panthers made that pick. How did that work?
Speaker 2: Then we lost our pick and we lost our pick. Well,
Speaker 2: if the tree he went through, let's say we got
Speaker 2: no L. We got no L, but we should have
Speaker 2: had a picket. Well, now we traded that one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they took Ollie Gordon. That's some bs anyway. So yeah,
Speaker 2: we got Jalen Noel. We're back. We're back up now
Speaker 2: one fifty six. This fifth round, Yeah, this fifth round.
Speaker 2: Best players available. Dylan Gabriel, quarterback out of Oregon, JJ
Speaker 2: Piggies nose tackle out of Ole Miss. Kyle Williams, wide
Speaker 2: receiver aut of Washington State. Well, we don't need another
Speaker 2: one of those.
Speaker 3: I was watching him. He's better than I thought too.
Speaker 3: He's good. Yeah. I like it a lot. Yeah, some
Speaker 3: drop issues, but yeah, yeah he gets open.
Speaker 2: Uh he who shall not be named year back, Riley
Speaker 2: Leonard quarterback out of Notre Dame, Tommy Hill cornerback out
Speaker 2: of Nebraska, Elijah Roberts defensive tackle out of SMU, And
Speaker 2: he's a little light. It would be more of an
Speaker 2: end in this defense. Jalen Rivers all defensive tackle out
Speaker 2: of Miami. Jalen Lane, wide receiver, Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3: I'm a big Jayalen Lane fan, but we just took one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Joonah Mannheim center from USC.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go too deep. Iness. I think
Speaker 3: you take Peggy's pegeese. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was
Speaker 3: taking exactly thing. Yep. Yeah, that's a nice pick in
Speaker 3: the fifth. So where do we have left? I'm real confused.
Speaker 2: We have one eighty five and one ninety two picks left.
Speaker 3: And next year the only change is we traded our
Speaker 3: third for the Rams second. Yes, basically get it right? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: which is a good deal. Yeah, that's wonderful, right, and
Speaker 3: we got the guy. We still still got the guy.
Speaker 3: We wanted to make that exactly and we got Judkins huge. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh so one one eighty five. Elijah Roberts still there,
Speaker 2: defensive tackle out of SMU, Jake my Majors the center
Speaker 2: out of Texas. Anias Peebles defensive tackle out of Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2: Ty Robinson defensive tax kind of.
Speaker 3: Like the shock Cheek code almost too.
Speaker 2: He should not be yea, it should not be down there.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Corey Kiner running back out of Cincinnati. Mitchell Evans tight
Speaker 2: end out of Notre Dame like that, good player, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Jay Higgins linebacker out of Iowa, Marcus Tate guard out
Speaker 2: of Clemson, Jordan James running back out of Oregon, Tim
Speaker 2: Smith defensive.
Speaker 3: Tackle out of Alabama. We just did that, though.
Speaker 2: Connor Colby guard out of Iowa, Tyler Cooper guard out
Speaker 2: of Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Is the a position that.
Speaker 2: You want to hit here? Lin Josh Gray is there.
Speaker 3: That's not bad. The tight end from Notre Dame is interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean just he seems like best player on the
Speaker 3: board to me. But I'd love to get an offensive
Speaker 3: lineman here.
Speaker 2: Dalton Cooper, the offensive tackle out of Oklahoma State, is
Speaker 2: the top rated offensive tackle. Jackson Hawes is there. If
Speaker 2: you're looking for a blocking tight end.
Speaker 3: Would you rather go with the athletic tight end or
Speaker 3: the blocking tight end? Could you use Jackson Hawes? Could
Speaker 3: you switch him to full back? Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 3: think he could. I mean, I don't switch. I would
Speaker 3: think we're.
Speaker 2: Just flying him in the back. He is a nasty,
Speaker 2: nasty blocker.
Speaker 3: We just drafted Vegas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's been a running full back, which is crazy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean you could do some things there.
Speaker 2: Curtis Rourke is there.
Speaker 3: That's intriguing. Just let's let's take a look at positions,
Speaker 3: because that's what you do at this point. Best player available,
Speaker 3: not quarterback.
Speaker 2: You're looking at Curtis Rourke, Ma, Max Brosmer, Brady Cook.
Speaker 3: Those are the top.
Speaker 2: Taylor Elvers was there, but offensive tackle Dalton Cooper, Brandon
Speaker 2: Crenshaw Dixon from Florida, Jaylen Travis from Iowa State, Gerard
Speaker 2: Christian Lichton lichten Hand from Oregon State, Caleb Rogers from
Speaker 2: Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about any of those guys.
Speaker 2: The table for him the guards, Marcus Tate from Clemson,
Speaker 2: Colby Connor Colby from Iowa, Tyler Cooper from Minnesota, Josh
Speaker 2: Gray from Morgan State, Willie Lampkin from North Carolina.
Speaker 3: Ray's interesting. We draft them the other day, Javior Truss,
Speaker 3: what about a corner. If we're gonna find a corner?
Speaker 2: Help this late No No Williams at a cal Justin
Speaker 2: Whaley out of Minnesota, Jayaln Smith at the USC. I'm
Speaker 2: just looking here to see if the yeah.
Speaker 3: It's he's Williams would be interesting. Ma'd be pretty buried
Speaker 3: on the depth charge in the corner. And I don't
Speaker 3: know that he's like slaves replacement, you know. Edge.
Speaker 2: You got Quay Robinson out of Alabama, Tyler Battie out
Speaker 2: of b Yu, Elijah Williams out of Morgan State, Johnny
Speaker 2: Walker at a Missouri put him in red Baron Sorrel
Speaker 2: out of Texas. R j Oben out of a Notre Dame,
Speaker 2: Ahmad Hassein Hassani at a Boise State.
Speaker 3: We rarely do it, and you brought up the other day,
Speaker 3: but a late round edge shouldn't be You shouldn't turn
Speaker 3: your nose up at it. Now you could do that yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a roster spot for that guy. Possibly. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: I consider one of the tight ends. None of the
Speaker 3: names really jumped out at me. I like Gray, the
Speaker 3: guard slash center from Oregon State.
Speaker 2: I mean, if we're taking a tight end here, I want,
Speaker 2: I want Jackson Haws.
Speaker 3: Okay, I just I mean they certainly have that player
Speaker 3: profile on the team. You know, the big hard to
Speaker 3: play against, nasty blocker. He is nasty. Not every team
Speaker 3: uses it, but the Steelers sure do. He is good,
Speaker 3: amazingly nasty. Yeah. I got no problem with that at all.
Speaker 3: And now we're up at one ninety, so you're gonna
Speaker 3: look at a lot of it is popular around here.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a lot of the same players available here
Speaker 2: at one ninety. Take a look at those edge guys again,
Speaker 2: seeing if anybody else jumps out at me here, that's
Speaker 2: getting pretty low in there. Robinson six four two forty
Speaker 2: three out of Alabama. So yeah, Baddie, I mean this
Speaker 2: is a deep edge draft. Baddie's a bigger six five
Speaker 2: two seventy one.
Speaker 3: I haven't done a lot of homework on six or
Speaker 3: seventh round here. Yeah. Elijah Williams, Elijah Williams six ninety
Speaker 3: four is an edge looks like a walker sixty nine.
Speaker 3: Baron Soorrel looked at him a little bit fifty six.
Speaker 3: I consider him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys have to make much of a run stuff,
Speaker 2: but get size.
Speaker 3: There's some athletics is in there. And I think you
Speaker 3: just take away Robinson and that's fine. Be happy with it.
Speaker 3: Alabama edge rusher, Okay, yeah, probably as I would think. Yeah,
Speaker 3: our last pick. That was our last pick. So we're
Speaker 3: letting this run out here. And we did move up
Speaker 3: around in next year.
Speaker 2: I can't believe they screwed us on the I don't
Speaker 2: understand that at all. It's never done that before. So
Speaker 2: we ended up with that pick twenty six. After moving
Speaker 2: back with Walter Nolan. We also got the Rams second
Speaker 2: round pick next year, Traveon Henderson at picked eighty three.
Speaker 3: That was a gift.
Speaker 2: We then traded back in to get Jalen Noel, moving
Speaker 2: our third round pick next year at one fifty six.
Speaker 2: We took jj Peageese, the defensive tackle out of Ole
Speaker 2: miss Fu. One eight five was Jackson Hawes, tight end
Speaker 2: out of Georgia Tech, and at one ninety Kway Robinson,
Speaker 2: edge rusher out of Alabama. We didn't take a quarterback.
Speaker 3: Right, but planning on it next year. Now we got
Speaker 3: two second round picks, we got our first. I mean,
Speaker 3: we got the feel confident that you're going to have
Speaker 3: four second day picks next year as well as multiple fours. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of firepower.
Speaker 2: A lot of firepower to make that move to go
Speaker 2: get a quarterback, whoever that may.
Speaker 3: Be, and who knows. I mean, we're really getting ahead
Speaker 3: of ourselves. But in that instance, if we're sitting here
Speaker 3: three or sixty five days from now, I would give
Speaker 3: you next year's first to move up in the first round,
Speaker 3: maybe the following years first, and sitting there with my
Speaker 3: two two's, someone might offer me next year's first for
Speaker 3: one of my two's. You know, when that time comes around.
Speaker 3: That's kind of how that works. You might be able
Speaker 3: to recoup your one.
Speaker 2: If I told you right now the first three rounds
Speaker 2: of the Steelers draft was Nolan Henderson and Noel That's
Speaker 2: what they got out of the first three rounds.
Speaker 3: I'd probably take it. I would. I mean considering that
Speaker 3: on a second round pick as we speak, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I guess that part you need the factor in.
Speaker 2: You do have the factor that in and oh, by
Speaker 2: the way, you get n dk Metcalf, then yes, you've
Speaker 2: made your offense better. I think Nolan makes your defense better.
Speaker 2: You also got Pegese as a developmental nose tackle.
Speaker 3: I've heard some people mentioned to me on Twitter, like
Speaker 3: you brought up Noel a few times. You and Dale.
Speaker 3: Isn't he too small? He's really thick. He's like five
Speaker 3: to eleven and two hundred pounds, right, I mean he's
Speaker 3: not just a little player that plays little either. I
Speaker 3: mean he's not as big as Georgian d k right,
Speaker 3: but he's not a little received. He's not Austin no
Speaker 3: by any stretch. No, he's somebody exactly right in between
Speaker 3: where you want. He's thirty pounds heavier than Calvin lost
Speaker 3: yew And so I just think there's a misconception. You
Speaker 3: guys keep talking about this little receiver. Now he's little.
Speaker 2: No, No, that that has changed so much that perception
Speaker 2: is changing. He's bigger than Antonio Brown was.
Speaker 3: I actually thought the same thing to me. An, Tonio
Speaker 3: Brown was five ten and you know, one hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty five pounds. Yeah, they're not even really closed no, right, right, right,
Speaker 3: So anyway, just to feel people went on the prospect
Speaker 3: a little bit more. Yeah, he's pretty thickly built guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a return guy and fast.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who else you Bilt like.
Speaker 2: But yeah, let's get to a break. He is the
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he starts to join us for an hour
Speaker 2: sounds get the more starks.
Speaker 3: People like that from the combine. I got a lot
Speaker 3: of good responses, rightfully, so Max brings a new perspective
Speaker 3: and you know, really smart.
Speaker 2: You don't have to listen to us drone on right.
Speaker 3: And some of his O line insights are really really
Speaker 3: strong too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of insights and strong insights on NFL dot
Speaker 2: com today, Lance zier Line, who does all their analysts
Speaker 2: on the draft or analysis on the draft, I should say,
Speaker 2: ranks the position groups in the show's draft. He does
Speaker 2: this every year and we go over this.
Speaker 3: And start weakest the strongest.
Speaker 2: It's not all that surprising, but he does. So what
Speaker 2: he the way he does this here is he he pulled.
Speaker 2: He rated each group where prospects will be drafted in
Speaker 2: rounds one through five. He waited star players a little
Speaker 2: bit more or twice as heavily as over all depth
Speaker 2: and gave them meet you, sir Worth between ten and thirty.
Speaker 2: A score of twenty points or higher for position group
Speaker 2: is considered strong.
Speaker 3: Okay, I hadn't seen that way of doing it. People
Speaker 3: just usually say running back better than line. This just
Speaker 3: gives you a little different respective line. Okay, cool, So
Speaker 3: safety is his number eleven position thirteen and a half points.
Speaker 3: We just previewed safeties on Steelers Dot Calm today, and
Speaker 3: I would conmpletely agree with this. We all linebackers for
Speaker 3: me too.
Speaker 2: The three of us met you and Mike pursuita to
Speaker 2: do that had the same exact top five, because that's
Speaker 2: the top five or safe.
Speaker 3: A whole lot else, and I had a hard time
Speaker 3: digging up a sleeper that I was super excited about either.
Speaker 3: Off of all, linebacker wasn't real rip roaring fun either, though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that position better than safety.
Speaker 3: Do I do? So they would be my two tenders.
Speaker 3: The side note, does he break down interior line and
Speaker 3: tackle or just line? I don't. We'll come up you'll
Speaker 3: find out.
Speaker 2: Yea his number ten position, quarterback fourteen points.
Speaker 3: I think it's a little harsh. I think Ward's a
Speaker 3: really good prospect, and I like the day. I like
Speaker 3: the third fourth round neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Wards a good prospect, but he's not a generational talent.
Speaker 2: I think he could be a good quarterback, I don't
Speaker 2: think he can be necessarily a top ten quarterback.
Speaker 3: Okay, I like him better than that.
Speaker 2: I think I think he could be in that eleven
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen range if things work out for him.
Speaker 3: Okay, I like him better than that. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: he's the next Mahomes or.
Speaker 2: Allen, Like, is he going to be better than Who's
Speaker 2: who's number ten right now?
Speaker 3: Who's I think he could be better than Hurtz or
Speaker 3: Dak or Shroud. I had a love good correcting it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's who those guys are right now. Yeah. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a neighborhood.
Speaker 2: And the landing spot isn't going to be great for
Speaker 2: him to work out that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not his fault though, but yeah, it's not
Speaker 3: gonna it's me uphill climb.
Speaker 2: And you know, again, I think Sanders is a fine prospect,
Speaker 2: but if he's your number two prospect for that part,
Speaker 2: I don't like. Yeah, right, and then there's some mid
Speaker 2: round guys that I like, but I.
Speaker 3: Don't still love the misnomer of this is a terrible
Speaker 3: quarterback draft, like as last year. That's for sure, but
Speaker 3: that's horrendous. It's not ritter And how.
Speaker 2: Like Ward's gonna go number one overall more than likely. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I don't know that anybody's saying he shouldn't go
Speaker 2: number one overall. No, even though he's you know, maybe
Speaker 2: he's a top twelve to fifteen guy in this particular draft,
Speaker 2: but just because the top of this draft there aren't stars.
Speaker 3: No, No, I mean I love Hunter. I think Carter's
Speaker 3: even a little overrated. I mean I think rams overrated.
Speaker 3: Whoever O line wone.
Speaker 2: Campbell by the way, thirty three ins arms today at
Speaker 2: the LSU pro I'm.
Speaker 3: Glad you brought that up. I think that's kind of
Speaker 3: funny too. Yeah, we were talking about.
Speaker 2: That, and that was measured by an NFL scout, not
Speaker 2: somebody at LSU.
Speaker 3: Well who did it at the Senior Bowl or whatever? Though, well,
Speaker 3: you know how that goes, right, he was he was
Speaker 3: this close to having thirty three inch arms. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: maybe it's like the Milroe hand thing.
Speaker 2: Though, stretched his arms out a little bit more today
Speaker 2: and he's got the thing about Campbell.
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to go down this street.
Speaker 2: He was a freshman, true freshman starter at LSU at
Speaker 2: left tackle in the SEC that matters to me. Walked
Speaker 2: off his high school campus. He graduated through his cap
Speaker 2: in here and walked into LSU and became a starting
Speaker 2: left tackle in the SEC.
Speaker 3: He's a tackle and black blocked Will Anderson. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: is an offensive tackle. I don't care how long his
Speaker 3: arms are. I definitely would start him there. Yeah, with
Speaker 3: the trampoline or the parachute.
Speaker 2: Whether his arm is thirty two and five eighths, which
Speaker 2: is I think what it was, or thirty three inches.
Speaker 2: You're talking about this much three ace of inch.
Speaker 3: However, the one thing I'll dispute you on is at
Speaker 3: the Combine it was under and its pro day it
Speaker 3: was at thirty three. I mean, it's like, who's doing
Speaker 3: these measurements. There's a couple of arm links like that
Speaker 3: and the Milroe hand thing. I saw something somebody said
Speaker 3: all of the arm links at the Combine this year
Speaker 3: were shorter. There's more to this story. That's were they
Speaker 3: were shorter than they had been to Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2: They were shorter than they had been at the.
Speaker 3: There's something going on with it. He's not the only one.
Speaker 3: But if I'm picking Frankly as high as four and
Speaker 3: as late as maybe like eleven, I'm gonna have him
Speaker 3: in for a visit and I'm gonna put him ruler on.
Speaker 2: That's fine, right right, But I know he can play
Speaker 2: offensive line. In the NFL, and it'd be really good
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 3: It's funny. I'm a big duke Manny Weather fan who's
Speaker 3: like the O line guru, and I happened to listen.
Speaker 3: I say this every day. I feel like I was
Speaker 3: listening to a podcasts to do Anywhere on It and
Speaker 3: he's like, yes, under thirty three is bad, but if
Speaker 3: you have super light feet, you have to have super
Speaker 3: life and he does you have to and yeah, you
Speaker 3: have to have super light feet, and he's like, Campbell
Speaker 3: does yeah, and I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah at nine is linebacker at sixteen and a half points, Well,
Speaker 2: I think that's true. I do like some of those
Speaker 2: mid round linebackers sweasing your Demetrius Knight. He's a little
Speaker 2: bit older, but that's fine. Yeah, you know, g Hud Campbell,
Speaker 2: Jalen Walker. I think both could be first round picks,
Speaker 2: and I think both are off ball linebackers.
Speaker 3: I don't think Walker is That's why I didn't include.
Speaker 3: That's why I was lower on the linebackers. I think
Speaker 3: Campbell will be drafted as off the ball linebacker that
Speaker 3: can rush the passer. I think Walker is going to
Speaker 3: be an edge that can drop, which I'm not sure
Speaker 3: if either is great, but full discrepancy linebacker is definitely
Speaker 3: the position I've done the least work on. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't think Steelers are involved.
Speaker 2: Seven tied for seventh is interior offensive line. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think seventeen points.
Speaker 3: There might not be a starting center in the group.
Speaker 3: If so, there's one or two. If Zabel's one of them,
Speaker 3: says in here, this could change if armand Membo, Will Campbell,
Speaker 3: Kelvin Banks moved the guard, and that become realtrong. It
Speaker 3: becomes again. Now you've got three first round guards and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but then tackle would be horrible. Yeah. Uh. Seven tied
Speaker 3: for seventh at seventeen points. His cornerback, Okay, only who
Speaker 3: I'd pick ahead of him. I'm starting to think I
Speaker 3: agree with that because I think there's a lot of
Speaker 3: red flags.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of red flags on a lot
Speaker 2: of these different guys. Like the Florida State kid ran
Speaker 2: a four to five.
Speaker 3: Seven, Like I love Revel, but he's not healthy.
Speaker 2: He's not healthy. Will Johnson hasn't run yet and he's
Speaker 2: not expected to be a burner either. Yeah, there's again
Speaker 2: a lot of that. Well, this guy has a he's
Speaker 2: coming off of an ACL injury. That guy's coming off
Speaker 2: of foot injury. This guy's got this, that guy's got that.
Speaker 2: Now Travis Hunter, I say, where.
Speaker 3: Are we counting him? Yeah? He sways things a lot
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's considering him a cornerback in this one. So
Speaker 2: there gives that gives you your star power there, and
Speaker 2: I do think there are there are some corners in
Speaker 2: this draft that could turn out to be good players,
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of question marks with this group.
Speaker 3: Wide. Receiver is the other one I would consider for
Speaker 3: this spot off the top of my head. Well, maybe tackle,
Speaker 3: because I think the other positions are strong. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: running back, d line, edge, tight end. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't think receiver is strong. But if I'm treating Hunter
Speaker 3: as a receiver and not a corner, that might be
Speaker 3: enough for me to go receiver over corner.
Speaker 2: Well, receiver gets is six at seventeen and a half points.
Speaker 2: But you have to also look at it. Okay, you
Speaker 2: got Golden Burden McMillan, and there'll be some other guys
Speaker 2: in that group that go in the second round, the
Speaker 2: third you.
Speaker 3: Know, sure, sure that's true. A corner though, too. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's not gonna be devoid.
Speaker 2: Of first, I don't know that there aren't as many
Speaker 2: question marks in terms of injury stuff, and I don't.
Speaker 3: Know how much this should count, But just compared to
Speaker 3: most receiver class, this.
Speaker 2: Is it's a bad Yeah, yes, that's why it's sixed here.
Speaker 2: Now we're starting to get into again. If it's twenty
Speaker 2: or more points, then it's a really good group. Offensive
Speaker 2: tackle is fifth with eighteen points, So I would not
Speaker 2: consider that a really good It's about an average group.
Speaker 2: And I assume they're counting all the potential guards as
Speaker 2: tackles for now as I would. Yeah, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Tight End is eighteen and a half points.
Speaker 3: That's fourth. All these other ones I think are good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got two, you got two stars there. You
Speaker 2: got some depth at the position. I think it's a
Speaker 2: good one. He mentions Thomas Fedon is an underrated third
Speaker 2: day pick, as is Jackson Hass a later run blocker. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: take them put them at full back.
Speaker 3: I like the Georgia kid. I mean, I think there's
Speaker 3: a couple of dudes in the mid rounds. It would
Speaker 3: be yeah, decent. I'm not big on Fannin. I don't
Speaker 3: quite buy that one, but I think are going to
Speaker 3: go pretty high.
Speaker 2: Number three on here is interior defensive line twenty two points,
Speaker 2: so that's above average. He said this There hasn't been
Speaker 2: a draft with more than eleven defensive tackles taken in
Speaker 2: the first one hundred picks since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: He said, we could get to eleven.
Speaker 2: There were fourteen that year. He said this year could
Speaker 2: match that total.
Speaker 3: Wow, so he thinks it's clearly over eleven. I'm not
Speaker 3: ye add them up in my mind, but that seems
Speaker 3: to add up to He said.
Speaker 2: There should be four first rounders who could all become stars,
Speaker 2: Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, Derek Harmon, Walter Nolan. We know
Speaker 2: all about those guys, he said, but the most impressive
Speaker 2: part of this group is how many quality starters it's
Speaker 2: likely to produce.
Speaker 3: TJ.
Speaker 2: Sanders, Josh Farmer, Tyleek Williams could all go in the
Speaker 2: second round. The run on tackle should be heavy throughout
Speaker 2: the Day two of this draft. The position is not
Speaker 2: only deep, but filled with more pass rush potential than
Speaker 2: we usually see.
Speaker 3: I mean, our regular listeners probably don't even need to
Speaker 3: hear this again, but I think you're going to get
Speaker 3: fourth round noses and fifth round noses too because of
Speaker 3: the pass rush potential. Yeah, one hundred percent. They're valuable guys,
Speaker 3: not splitting hairs. But I do think, yes, there's a
Speaker 3: really good chance there's four defensive tackles in the first round,
Speaker 3: but maybe only one when the Steelers are on the clock.
Speaker 2: Right, which is typically what's been happening with our mock drafts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they might all go to playoff teams. Yeah,
Speaker 3: two is running back twenty four points really good? Yeah,
Speaker 3: if Hampton's your number two and you have the depth there,
Speaker 3: that's pretty strong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Raveon Henderson, Quinn, Shawn Judkins, you know, and
Speaker 2: then you're looking at even guys like Baychelle Touton, Dylan Samson,
Speaker 2: trevoriy TN, Jayden Blue. I mean, these guys are going
Speaker 2: to be contributors.
Speaker 3: I was, I wasn't a huge Bucky Irving fan or Yeah,
Speaker 3: this kind of discredited him a little bit last year.
Speaker 3: Then he went and what the fourth round? The fifth round?
Speaker 3: Fourth round guy, there'll be two of them this year too.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know that are mid round picks that
Speaker 3: have a thousand yards out of nowhere you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen. Again.
Speaker 2: That leaves as number one edge defender at twenty six
Speaker 2: and a half points. And again when we do a
Speaker 2: mock drafts, I mean there's like eight of these guys
Speaker 2: that might go in the first round.
Speaker 3: From two hundred and eighty five pounds to two hundred
Speaker 3: and forty pounds too. Yeah, but they're all lining up
Speaker 3: on the edge two point three point stance. But there's
Speaker 3: a wide variety. I'm glad the Steelers aren't in that market.
Speaker 3: And I think that's the position that our fans, Steeler
Speaker 3: fans want to draft the other edge draft, other ridge
Speaker 3: draft on other edge. You want them to fly off
Speaker 3: the board. Yeah, but it would be nice to dip
Speaker 3: your toe in that water.
Speaker 2: It's gonna and again, you know, as we just did
Speaker 2: in our mock draft, that that that edge defender who's
Speaker 2: going to be available in the sixth round, like what
Speaker 2: we just did.
Speaker 3: In most years probably goes in the third or fourth one. Say,
Speaker 3: if that's a fourth round player in the sixth then
Speaker 3: I'm interested. Yeah, I mean, there's always a ripple effect.
Speaker 3: But because it's such a good position this year, it
Speaker 3: is it is inegri it's number one, I think. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: just because of the volume, there's gonna be six first rounders.
Speaker 2: And Carter's going to go early, and you know there're
Speaker 2: so he gets some a little bit of star power there.
Speaker 2: But there might be six of those guys who go
Speaker 2: into top twenty, if not more.
Speaker 3: And it's not just because the Eagles won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: but I mean, I think people are going to be
Speaker 3: looking at developmental edge. Okay, yeah, guys, tiebreaker.
Speaker 2: He's got the speed he bends off the edge.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of those guys this year, and
Speaker 2: it's it's interesting that the Steelers needs going into this
Speaker 2: draft running back into your defensive line, two of the
Speaker 2: top three positions.
Speaker 3: It's not an accident to set yourself up to swim
Speaker 3: in the deepest waters. Absolutely doesn't mean you trade T. J.
Speaker 3: Watts so you can go in the edge in the
Speaker 3: edge waters.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, No, that's not how you want to do that,
Speaker 2: but certainly works.
Speaker 3: Out well m hm no, it's good, good situation.
Speaker 2: Those were Lance zero lines rankings. We talk about Lance
Speaker 2: a lot on here because he does the draft analysis
Speaker 2: for NFL dot com. You can check that out on
Speaker 2: NFL dot com. But he is Matt Williamson. I am
Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on the
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and
Speaker 2: now I'll be back to finish up the show right
Speaker 2: after this.
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Speaker 3: That break took a turn of events. I was expecting
Speaker 3: inside joke.
Speaker 2: Well, just don't show up wearing your screen mask.
Speaker 3: Hey, yikes. Anyways, so Queasi Adolpho Mensa had a press
Speaker 3: conference and he is the general manager of the Minnesota Vikings,
Speaker 3: and he said that JJ McCarthy being their starting quarterback
Speaker 3: this year is the outcome we want and the outcome
Speaker 3: we're heading towards. Okay, I mean what you did the
Speaker 3: trade up to get him and investigate a bit, and
Speaker 3: I assume he's healthy. I'm sure, he said.
Speaker 2: Earlier this week he talked with somebody said yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm read to the schedule, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 3: And I understand that, Hey, we really outkicked our coverage
Speaker 3: without him last year? Could we be could we win
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl with a non rookie ish quarterback? But
Speaker 3: this was the plan all along. It was the plan.
Speaker 3: The plan was to starting last year right right right,
Speaker 3: and operate the big picture on a rookie quarterback salary. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it allows you to allow them to go out and
Speaker 3: spend three hundred million dollars this officer and a super
Speaker 3: expensive wide receiver and other things.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So that's that's the plan. To stick with it, and
Speaker 3: I don't know why you'd really deviate. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He was the number ten overall pick in the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four draft, and he said he was asked about
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, and he says, for me to sit here
Speaker 2: and say that anything's one hundred percent forever, that's not
Speaker 2: the job. We're responding to the scenarios with different information
Speaker 2: as it comes. So obviously things can change. But right now,
Speaker 2: we're really happy with our quarterback room and we're going
Speaker 2: to look to upgrade it in different ways.
Speaker 3: Okay, they don't have a clear backup at the moment, though, right.
Speaker 2: They have somebody on Yeah, I mean they have like
Speaker 2: a three that's where Joe Flacco is going to end
Speaker 2: up somewhere something like somebody could be a mentor.
Speaker 3: To right, right, right, And that makes all the sense
Speaker 3: in the world. It's still a pretty cheap room. He's
Speaker 3: non threatening. He could do well with thrust into action
Speaker 3: or whatever. You know. No, I think that's a good move. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's not Aaron Rodgers. No, I don't.
Speaker 2: That's not going to happen. Then there's one destination now
Speaker 2: for Aaron Rodgers, and it's Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or retirement, which I don't think is.
Speaker 2: And as I said, come here, as I said when
Speaker 2: the show opened today, Russell Wilson does not sign with
Speaker 2: the Giants unless the Steelers tell him. Right, okay, Russ,
Speaker 2: we're moving on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Russell Wilson wanted to return to Pittsburgh, that
Speaker 3: was his ideal outcome. I mean, even with Rudolph in place,
Speaker 3: I know Rudolph and Winston are making similar money. He
Speaker 3: would clearly be the one here. I'm not sure he's
Speaker 3: clear really the one in New York. I think they're
Speaker 3: paying they're paying more, don't get me wrong. I mean I'm.
Speaker 2: Aware, But that's a tight rope to walk with jamis
Speaker 2: I know, like, say what you want about Russ, but
Speaker 2: Russ protects the football a hundred times percent better than.
Speaker 3: That's just a weird quarterback room already if you throw.
Speaker 2: In imagine, imagine those quarterback room meetings. By the way,
Speaker 2: russitting back here talking to himself, which he does.
Speaker 3: But I got no problem with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he's he's a big mental preparation guy. And
Speaker 2: you got Jamis over there eating W's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it seems I mean, I think, you know,
Speaker 3: it's better than I do. But I don't think russ
Speaker 3: Is not coming back had anything to do with his
Speaker 3: personality or anything. And I think he was great with
Speaker 3: all those arts, right, I got. I have nothing but
Speaker 3: good things to say about Russell Wilson in terms of
Speaker 3: his personality.
Speaker 2: He yeah, his he was nothing but good to me.
Speaker 2: We we you know, every time I dealt with him,
Speaker 2: was always available, was good with his teammates. There was
Speaker 2: nobody in that locker room that disliked Russell. You had
Speaker 2: to if you dislike Russell Wilson the person, you gotta
Speaker 2: work really hard. You get there's you gotta take a
Speaker 2: look in the mirror and say, what what am I
Speaker 2: doing wrong?
Speaker 3: I didn't understand. I wasn't close to it. But you know,
Speaker 3: he's a bad fit in Denver blah blah. I mean
Speaker 3: he's a diva and then he got here. I'm like,
Speaker 3: where'd that come from? I mean, unless he I can
Speaker 3: have to say year as he did there, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if you were the kind of person that looks
Speaker 2: at somebody who always has a positive outcome on it
Speaker 2: or a positive outlook of everything, and say nobody can
Speaker 2: be that positive. All everyone seems to think he is
Speaker 2: extremely generated.
Speaker 3: That's just who he is. Who he is, right. I
Speaker 3: meant to ask Labs this, and if he is just
Speaker 3: a mediocre year in New York and rides off in
Speaker 3: the sunset or gives way to a rookie, is he
Speaker 3: get in the Hall of Fame? I think so it's
Speaker 3: pretty close.
Speaker 2: I mean he's he's like top fifteen, closing in on
Speaker 2: top ten and everything.
Speaker 3: I mean the day he got traded the Denver I
Speaker 3: was asked that and I said, yes, that even if
Speaker 3: he doesn't play again. But his case didn't get stronger
Speaker 3: since Seattle. Yeah, obviously, I think he's real close, and
Speaker 3: I would bet he gets.
Speaker 2: Some of the things that did get stronger though, are
Speaker 2: the the Cumultuve stats.
Speaker 3: Yeah he has those numbers now, I mean he has
Speaker 3: such as Rogers by the way, but one of the
Speaker 3: best td'ed interception ratios of all time, you know, it's
Speaker 3: top three. Yeah, absolutely, But yeah, I'm really formed. I
Speaker 3: wish him nothing but the best.
Speaker 2: Again, I would have you know, if you were the
Speaker 2: Steelers quarterback this year, I would have been perfectly happy
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 3: It is what it is. Yeah, that's the way it works.
Speaker 2: That's going to do it for our show today. So
Speaker 2: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here running
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Speaker 2: the editor of Steelers Digest and Steelers dot Com, for
Speaker 2: dropping buys he does every Wednesday for Tyler Viittmeyer making
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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. Thank you for listening to this
Speaker 3: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the
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