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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. And

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Speaker 2: it's Wednesday, which means it's our turn to do a

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Speaker 2: little mock draft madness here. All right, all right, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna use the Pro Footballnetwork dot com mockdrafter today. And

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Speaker 2: we're up at pick twenty one and we have two

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Speaker 2: trade offers. The first one is from the Rams. They're

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Speaker 2: offering us they want twenty one and pick two twenty nine. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they're offering us pick twenty six and next year's second.

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Speaker 3: I bet we could get more out of them. Could

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Speaker 3: we get a fourth this year thrown in or something

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Speaker 3: like that. Typically they don't do that on this one,

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Speaker 3: but how the simulator works, they usually come to you

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Speaker 3: with their best office. Oh really, it's not like okay.

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Speaker 2: Uh, The Vikings are offering pick twenty four and next

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Speaker 2: year's fourth for pick twenty one that sign.

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Speaker 3: Off a playoff team's fourth round picks that move up

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Speaker 3: in the first round. Come on, the guy's still available.

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Speaker 3: Right now. Jalen Walker, linebacker out of Georgia, that might

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Speaker 3: be the target of on these teams. Yeah, maybe not

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Speaker 3: those two, particularly.

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Speaker 2: James Pierce, the edge rusher out of Tennessee. John Ay Barron,

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Speaker 2: cornerback out of Texas, Chavon Ravelle, cornerback out of East Carolina,

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Speaker 2: Josh Simmons, offensive tackle a lot of Ohio State. Colston

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Speaker 2: Loveland the tight end out of Michigan. Nick Scourton, edge

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Speaker 2: rusher out of Texas, A and m A. Mecca at

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Speaker 2: BUCA wide receiver out of Ohio State. He ran a

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Speaker 2: four to four eight today at.

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Speaker 3: Ohio Okay, notorious fast track or using at Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: so automatic. I'm gonna add point zero five to that.

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Speaker 3: So he's really a four mid four five. That's like

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Speaker 3: how he plays too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Luther Burden the wide receiver out of Missouri. Ty Leek Williams,

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Speaker 2: the defensive tackle out of Ohio State who apparently pulled

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Speaker 2: a hamstring today while he was running his flow.

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna run forty yards.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if he was running forties. Gray's Abel Walter, Nolan,

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Speaker 2: Donovan Azeriku, Kenneth Grant is there, Amarion Hampton running back

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Speaker 2: out of North Carolina, Donovan Jackson. There's there's some targets there.

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Speaker 2: If we wanted to move down with.

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Speaker 3: Grant and Nolan still available, I'm all for trading down.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the sites. Are the simulators well enough.

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Speaker 3: I'm not super interested in next year's fourth, sort of

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Speaker 3: interested in next year second, but I would prefer this year.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, because I know it's tough from where you

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Speaker 3: sit too to make a move trading next year's third

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Speaker 3: in the RAMS second so we can get the fiftieth

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Speaker 3: pick in the draft this year, you know, and that's

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Speaker 3: not always easy to pull off. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: if teams want future picks, if they want to got

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Speaker 3: out of the second, you know. Yeah, but we can't

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Speaker 3: really counter.

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Speaker 2: RAMS don't have a second this year problem, So we

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Speaker 2: could accept that, bump back five spots, and then try

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Speaker 2: to trade.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. I mean, we opened the show

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Speaker 3: saying it's a fair deal. It's not a bad offer

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Speaker 3: at all, right, I mean, I do think that's a

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Speaker 3: late second most likely. I don't think they're gonna pick

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Speaker 3: the top ten, which is something you have to think about.

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Speaker 3: But you never know. Iford got hurt I didn't think

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Speaker 3: Washington would be a final fourteen. Rather, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: for it, but it is going to be stressful on

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Speaker 3: you if there's some kind of target of ours. That's

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Speaker 3: hard to you know, because we really only have future

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Speaker 3: picks to offer. Yeah, I don't really want to get

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Speaker 3: rid of the third this year. Yeah, let me see

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Speaker 3: what else. Well, but all this could end up landing

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Speaker 3: your next Pat Mahomes, folks, your next with Ben Roethlisberger, Right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a year down the road it takes.

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Speaker 3: If you get the same guy at twenty six that

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Speaker 3: you would have taken a twenty one, which to me

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Speaker 3: is probably Grant or Nolan. Well, then I got a

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Speaker 3: second round pick next year, all right, would you really

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna move out of this year real quick. They

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Speaker 3: Okay, not really even a need for the Rams, but

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he was high on everyone's board.

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Speaker 2: Then John ay Barron went James Pearce, Chavon Revel Nick

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Speaker 2: Scourton to the Cowboys. Okay, great, we're up at twenty

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Speaker 2: six and we do have again another trade offer.

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Speaker 3: We have two.

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Speaker 2: Actually, the Bears are offering pick thirty and next year's

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Speaker 2: third for a twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Loaded with picks twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Now yeah, yeah, the Chargers are offering fifty five, eighty six,

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Speaker 2: next year's two and next year's three for pick twenty six.

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Speaker 3: That's getting I mean, it's fair. But I'd like to

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Speaker 3: make something a little crazy, right, What about do you

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Speaker 3: want to do the the other one? The first one? Oh? Really,

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Speaker 3: I want to make a pick. We only moved down.

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Speaker 3: I mean we would be moving.

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Speaker 2: Down past Baltimore, Detroit, Washington, and Washington because it looks.

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Speaker 3: Like Washington twice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Buffalo traded up, No, just Washington. Once Buffalo traded

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Speaker 2: up to go get Derek Carmen at twenty. They moved

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Speaker 2: up ahead of us.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, that doesn't mean if we move back, some

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Speaker 3: of these other teams can, Like somebody at Kansas City

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Speaker 3: could bump up ahead of us. They could. I'd rather

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Speaker 3: just take the player, that's fine. I mean the future

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Speaker 3: pick doesn't do us all that much good for today, honestly.

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Speaker 3: But Nolan or Grant gone back and forth on that too,

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Speaker 2: Mean, we talked about it yesterday and I think Nolan

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Speaker 3: Kicking it around because I really like the draft too,

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Speaker 3: and it's much easier to do if you take Nolan

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Speaker 3: I mean. Like he's he could kill only one, he

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Speaker 3: can handle both spots. Yeah, throw one in late. It's

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Speaker 3: a really developmental guy. Let's say Nolan. Okay, Walter Nolan,

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Speaker 3: it is. I love the fourth round. Nose tackles is

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Speaker 3: basically where we come from.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pause this thing in the middle two of

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Speaker 2: round two and see if we can maybe what's an

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Speaker 2: angle something to get up back up in there. All right,

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Speaker 2: we're at forty eight now, Kenneth Grant still available, crazy,

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Speaker 2: I'd be interested. Well, in that case, that might be

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Speaker 2: the Rams two. They're gonna want this year's third though,

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Speaker 2: that's what makes it. Harry, I'm going to offer what

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Speaker 3: Really our bargaining chips. That's what makes it tough for

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a fair offer, right, right, right, they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if somebody else, I mean, if Grant

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Speaker 2: we're at fifty two a Seahawks. With the Seahawks, this

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Speaker 3: We would have picked original I'm going to but I

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Speaker 3: would definitely give up the Steelers third in the Rams

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Speaker 3: second next year for Kenneth Grant, even without a doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: without a doubt, without matter. If you've got no one

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't care what else I get strapped.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Seattle, I'm going to offer them the

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough because I mean, I know this

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Speaker 3: is computer, this isn't real people. But if you want

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Speaker 3: we're not helping you, right, And I don't really want

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Speaker 3: to get rid of the third. No, and he just

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Speaker 3: went okay, he goes Green Bay took him. Good for them.

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, all right, we're gonna resume here. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: pause again here it's top A round three.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so the second round went by.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Judkins is still there, okay. Uh Brayden Swinson address

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Speaker 2: red of Velashue, Darius Alexander is still there, Treveon Henderson

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Speaker 2: is still there. Jalen Nowell, Alfred.

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Speaker 3: Collins, Collins is interesting, guy is interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I could try to get up here, Kansas

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Speaker 2: City is the team who's on the clock here.

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Speaker 3: Probably with the Titaness pig. Now I think about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I'm gonna real quick, would you give up this

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Speaker 3: we're gonna try. Well, I don't know, We're not gonna.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to give up. It's a different conversation.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you're at eighty three? Now, would I

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Speaker 2: give up next year's third? Then becomes the question, knowing

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Speaker 2: that I have a compensatory pick.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would definitely give up the third and

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Speaker 3: next year's fourth. We also now have an extra second

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Speaker 3: next year. That's I mean, you're sitting on a one, two, two's,

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Speaker 3: maybe three threes, probably two threes and a bunch of four's.

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Speaker 2: Would I be happy, though, just getting out of this

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Speaker 2: draft Nolan and Judkins.

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Speaker 3: And be loaded for next year? Yeah? I mean, and

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Speaker 3: you get some spare pieces. But right, that's my question.

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Speaker 3: Would you give up next year's third in this third?

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Speaker 3: I would offer this year's third and next year's fourth.

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Speaker 2: That's I think going to be I'm going to offer.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna offer our pick one twenty three.

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Speaker 3: And Judkins is our target? Is that what we agree with?

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Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah? I mean I'm interested in Collins too.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna offer pick one twenty three in next year's

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Speaker 2: third one, that's our fourth round pick. I would draft

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Speaker 2: that and next year's third, and would keep.

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Speaker 3: Our third for this year. Yeah. Oh, I would do

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Speaker 3: that in heartbeat. I don't think they're going to say yes.

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Speaker 3: Find out yeah for pick sixty six. No, they rejected that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I can sweeten it a little bit. Would you do.

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Speaker 2: Where they at? Kansas City? Where are you at?

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Speaker 3: How about this year's you offered this year's fourth and

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Speaker 3: next year's third. Would you give up the Rams second

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Speaker 3: straight up for Judkins?

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Speaker 2: I think I would, yeah, because it's about it's going

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Speaker 2: to be in the similar area and next year's draft

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Speaker 2: to get back get Judkins right now.

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Speaker 3: I think I would. Yeah, I'll give you next year's

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Speaker 3: two hours or the Rams.

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Speaker 2: I'll even throw in a sweet I'll give you like

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Speaker 2: a six next year because we got two of those.

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Speaker 3: at two for next year, you're gonna let it roll

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Speaker 3: three or four picks we can miss is an early

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Speaker 3: he's gone, okay and our pick is almost up. It

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Speaker 3: went very fast. Took him, We took him. Oh, the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs took him. So there you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Jalen Noel interested.

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver out of Iowa State, Mason Taylor, tight end

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Speaker 2: Norman Lott, defensive tackle to Tennessee. Ashton Gillette at dresser

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Speaker 2: Elijah Rojo quinn Ewers is there at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: I think it was on Noel and Henderson.

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Speaker 2: Well, Howard is there, quarterback out of Ohio State. Josh

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Speaker 3: I bet there's a couple noses around from now though.

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Speaker 3: Do you have to take Henderson? I think you do.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's a nice value getting him that late. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Somebody's got to carry the ball. Henderson's very good in past.

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Speaker 3: Protection, which is really rare in this running back, really rare. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: millions in the bank. I'm a ball. They're just acting

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Speaker 2: And I know Travon Henderson showed up at the combine.

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Speaker 3: At two oh two bigger than that. He plays about

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Speaker 3: right right, right? No, I got no problem. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you told me today the genie comes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the number one running back recruit in

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Speaker 3: Oh right, right, right, Okay, guys are high pedigree dudes

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Speaker 3: that Oh yeah, yeah, I could take Henderson. I think

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Speaker 2: Then the question becomes, you want to try to trade

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Speaker 3: I would consider Noel or a d tackle or Noel

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Speaker 3: is still there at pick ninety the Rams are up,

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Speaker 3: Would the Rams take him? Would they take there? Would

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Speaker 3: you offer your second round or straight up for him?

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Speaker 3: Give it back to them, yeah yeah, or give them

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Speaker 3: I don't. I'd say, I think that's as rich as

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Speaker 3: I would even consider.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna rams we already did business ones, let's

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Speaker 2: see if we can do it again here, because they

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Speaker 2: the first round.

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Speaker 3: Doubt it would get it done. But with our fourth

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Speaker 3: no L no h, it's coming in kind of cheap there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: how about your fourth this year and a third next year?

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Speaker 3: And is that worth it to us? It's probably a

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Speaker 2: I would want to get something back from them later

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Speaker 2: a three next year, which I've already bumped up from

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Speaker 2: my two that they already gave me, it's like having

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Speaker 2: that extra third already.

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Speaker 3: But I just moved it ahead of a full.

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Speaker 2: Round, more than a full round really, because that's a

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Speaker 2: compensate a compensatory pick.

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Speaker 3: And now we're.

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Speaker 2: So I give them one twenty three if I offer

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Speaker 3: Third for this pick and question mark, let's say pick

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Speaker 3: one ninety. It's fair.

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Speaker 2: They accepted it, okay, all right, so now we can

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Speaker 2: you want to take Jalen Noel here? Yeah, yeah, wait

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Speaker 2: a second, it accepted it, and then we didn't get

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Speaker 2: to make the pick, and we didn't and we didn't

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Speaker 2: have our four.

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Speaker 3: They took our picks and didn't give us a player.

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Speaker 2: What the heck's going on here with this? Unless unless

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Speaker 2: it did give me Noel and I missed.

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Speaker 3: Well, we can pretend that on our screen it says

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Speaker 3: we has no L. Even the people watching don't know.

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Speaker 2: Instead, the Carolina Panthers made that pick. How did that work?

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Speaker 2: Then we lost our pick and we lost our pick. Well,

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Speaker 2: if the tree he went through, let's say we got

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Speaker 2: no L. We got no L, but we should have

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Speaker 2: had a picket. Well, now we traded that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they took Ollie Gordon. That's some bs anyway. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got Jalen Noel. We're back. We're back up now

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Speaker 2: one fifty six. This fifth round, Yeah, this fifth round.

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Speaker 2: Best players available. Dylan Gabriel, quarterback out of Oregon, JJ

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Speaker 2: Piggies nose tackle out of Ole Miss. Kyle Williams, wide

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Speaker 2: receiver aut of Washington State. Well, we don't need another

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Speaker 2: one of those.

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Speaker 3: I was watching him. He's better than I thought too.

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Speaker 3: He's good. Yeah. I like it a lot. Yeah, some

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Speaker 3: drop issues, but yeah, yeah he gets open.

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Speaker 2: Uh he who shall not be named year back, Riley

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Speaker 2: Leonard quarterback out of Notre Dame, Tommy Hill cornerback out

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Speaker 2: of Nebraska, Elijah Roberts defensive tackle out of SMU, And

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Speaker 2: he's a little light. It would be more of an

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Speaker 2: end in this defense. Jalen Rivers all defensive tackle out

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Speaker 2: of Miami. Jalen Lane, wide receiver, Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big Jayalen Lane fan, but we just took one. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Joonah Mannheim center from USC.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to go too deep. Iness. I think

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Speaker 3: you take Peggy's pegeese. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was

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Speaker 3: taking exactly thing. Yep. Yeah, that's a nice pick in

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Speaker 3: the fifth. So where do we have left? I'm real confused.

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Speaker 2: We have one eighty five and one ninety two picks left.

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Speaker 3: And next year the only change is we traded our

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Speaker 3: third for the Rams second. Yes, basically get it right? Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 3: which is a good deal. Yeah, that's wonderful, right, and

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Speaker 3: we got the guy. We still still got the guy.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to make that exactly and we got Judkins huge. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh so one one eighty five. Elijah Roberts still there,

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle out of SMU, Jake my Majors the center

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Speaker 2: out of Texas. Anias Peebles defensive tackle out of Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 2: Ty Robinson defensive tax kind of.

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Speaker 3: Like the shock Cheek code almost too.

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Speaker 2: He should not be yea, it should not be down there.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Corey Kiner running back out of Cincinnati. Mitchell Evans tight

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Speaker 2: end out of Notre Dame like that, good player, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jay Higgins linebacker out of Iowa, Marcus Tate guard out

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Speaker 2: of Clemson, Jordan James running back out of Oregon, Tim

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Speaker 3: Tackle out of Alabama. We just did that, though.

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Speaker 2: Connor Colby guard out of Iowa, Tyler Cooper guard out

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Speaker 2: of Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Is the a position that.

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Speaker 2: You want to hit here? Lin Josh Gray is there.

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Speaker 3: That's not bad. The tight end from Notre Dame is interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean just he seems like best player on the

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Speaker 3: board to me. But I'd love to get an offensive

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Speaker 3: lineman here.

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Speaker 2: Dalton Cooper, the offensive tackle out of Oklahoma State, is

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Speaker 2: the top rated offensive tackle. Jackson Hawes is there. If

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Speaker 2: you're looking for a blocking tight end.

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Speaker 3: Would you rather go with the athletic tight end or

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Speaker 3: the blocking tight end? Could you use Jackson Hawes? Could

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Speaker 3: you switch him to full back? Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: think he could. I mean, I don't switch. I would

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Speaker 3: think we're.

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Speaker 2: Just flying him in the back. He is a nasty,

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Speaker 2: nasty blocker.

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Speaker 3: We just drafted Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's been a running full back, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean you could do some things there.

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Speaker 2: Curtis Rourke is there.

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Speaker 3: That's intriguing. Just let's let's take a look at positions,

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Speaker 3: because that's what you do at this point. Best player available,

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Speaker 3: not quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You're looking at Curtis Rourke, Ma, Max Brosmer, Brady Cook.

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Speaker 3: Those are the top.

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Speaker 2: Taylor Elvers was there, but offensive tackle Dalton Cooper, Brandon

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Speaker 2: Crenshaw Dixon from Florida, Jaylen Travis from Iowa State, Gerard

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Speaker 3: I don't know enough about any of those guys.

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Speaker 2: The table for him the guards, Marcus Tate from Clemson,

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Speaker 3: Ray's interesting. We draft them the other day, Javior Truss,

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Speaker 3: what about a corner. If we're gonna find a corner?

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Speaker 2: Help this late No No Williams at a cal Justin

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Speaker 2: Whaley out of Minnesota, Jayaln Smith at the USC. I'm

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Speaker 2: just looking here to see if the yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's he's Williams would be interesting. Ma'd be pretty buried

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Speaker 3: on the depth charge in the corner. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know that he's like slaves replacement, you know. Edge.

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Speaker 2: You got Quay Robinson out of Alabama, Tyler Battie out

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Speaker 2: Walker at a Missouri put him in red Baron Sorrel

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Speaker 2: out of Texas. R j Oben out of a Notre Dame,

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Speaker 3: We rarely do it, and you brought up the other day,

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Speaker 3: but a late round edge shouldn't be You shouldn't turn

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Speaker 3: your nose up at it. Now you could do that yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's a roster spot for that guy. Possibly. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: I consider one of the tight ends. None of the

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Speaker 3: guard slash center from Oregon State.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if we're taking a tight end here, I want,

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Speaker 2: I want Jackson Haws.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just I mean they certainly have that player

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Speaker 3: profile on the team. You know, the big hard to

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Speaker 3: play against, nasty blocker. He is nasty. Not every team

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Speaker 3: uses it, but the Steelers sure do. He is good,

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Speaker 3: amazingly nasty. Yeah. I got no problem with that at all.

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Speaker 3: And now we're up at one ninety, so you're gonna

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Speaker 3: look at a lot of it is popular around here.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a lot of the same players available here

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Speaker 2: at one ninety. Take a look at those edge guys again,

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Speaker 2: seeing if anybody else jumps out at me here, that's

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Speaker 2: getting pretty low in there. Robinson six four two forty

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Speaker 2: three out of Alabama. So yeah, Baddie, I mean this

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Speaker 2: is a deep edge draft. Baddie's a bigger six five

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Speaker 2: two seventy one.

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Speaker 3: I haven't done a lot of homework on six or

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Speaker 3: seventh round here. Yeah. Elijah Williams, Elijah Williams six ninety

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Speaker 3: four is an edge looks like a walker sixty nine.

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Speaker 3: Baron Soorrel looked at him a little bit fifty six.

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Speaker 3: I consider him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys have to make much of a run stuff,

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Speaker 2: but get size.

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Speaker 3: There's some athletics is in there. And I think you

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Speaker 3: just take away Robinson and that's fine. Be happy with it.

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Speaker 3: Alabama edge rusher, Okay, yeah, probably as I would think. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: our last pick. That was our last pick. So we're

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Speaker 3: around in next year.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe they screwed us on the I don't

434
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Speaker 2: understand that at all. It's never done that before. So

435
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Speaker 2: we ended up with that pick twenty six. After moving

436
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Speaker 2: back with Walter Nolan. We also got the Rams second

437
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Speaker 2: round pick next year, Traveon Henderson at picked eighty three.

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Speaker 3: That was a gift.

439
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Speaker 2: We then traded back in to get Jalen Noel, moving

440
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Speaker 2: our third round pick next year at one fifty six.

441
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Speaker 2: We took jj Peageese, the defensive tackle out of Ole

442
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Speaker 2: miss Fu. One eight five was Jackson Hawes, tight end

443
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Speaker 2: out of Georgia Tech, and at one ninety Kway Robinson,

444
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Speaker 2: edge rusher out of Alabama. We didn't take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Right, but planning on it next year. Now we got

446
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Speaker 3: two second round picks, we got our first. I mean,

447
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Speaker 3: we got the feel confident that you're going to have

448
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Speaker 3: four second day picks next year as well as multiple fours. Yeah,

449
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Speaker 3: it's a lot of firepower.

450
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Speaker 2: A lot of firepower to make that move to go

451
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Speaker 2: get a quarterback, whoever that may.

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Speaker 3: Be, and who knows. I mean, we're really getting ahead

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Speaker 3: of ourselves. But in that instance, if we're sitting here

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Speaker 3: three or sixty five days from now, I would give

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Speaker 3: you next year's first to move up in the first round,

456
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Speaker 3: maybe the following years first, and sitting there with my

457
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Speaker 3: two two's, someone might offer me next year's first for

458
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Speaker 3: one of my two's. You know, when that time comes around.

459
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Speaker 3: That's kind of how that works. You might be able

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Speaker 3: to recoup your one.

461
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Speaker 2: If I told you right now the first three rounds

462
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Speaker 2: of the Steelers draft was Nolan Henderson and Noel That's

463
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Speaker 2: what they got out of the first three rounds.

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Speaker 3: I'd probably take it. I would. I mean considering that

465
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Speaker 3: on a second round pick as we speak, Yeah, I

466
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Speaker 3: mean I guess that part you need the factor in.

467
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Speaker 2: You do have the factor that in and oh, by

468
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Speaker 2: the way, you get n dk Metcalf, then yes, you've

469
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Speaker 2: made your offense better. I think Nolan makes your defense better.

470
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Speaker 2: You also got Pegese as a developmental nose tackle.

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Speaker 3: I've heard some people mentioned to me on Twitter, like

472
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Speaker 3: you brought up Noel a few times. You and Dale.

473
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Speaker 3: Isn't he too small? He's really thick. He's like five

474
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Speaker 3: to eleven and two hundred pounds, right, I mean he's

475
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Speaker 3: not just a little player that plays little either. I

476
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Speaker 3: mean he's not as big as Georgian d k right,

477
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Speaker 3: but he's not a little received. He's not Austin no

478
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Speaker 3: by any stretch. No, he's somebody exactly right in between

479
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Speaker 3: where you want. He's thirty pounds heavier than Calvin lost

480
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Speaker 3: yew And so I just think there's a misconception. You

481
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Speaker 3: guys keep talking about this little receiver. Now he's little.

482
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Speaker 2: No, No, that that has changed so much that perception

483
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Speaker 2: is changing. He's bigger than Antonio Brown was.

484
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Speaker 3: I actually thought the same thing to me. An, Tonio

485
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Speaker 3: Brown was five ten and you know, one hundred and

486
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Speaker 3: eighty five pounds. Yeah, they're not even really closed no, right, right, right,

487
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Speaker 3: So anyway, just to feel people went on the prospect

488
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Speaker 3: a little bit more. Yeah, he's pretty thickly built guy.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a return guy and fast.

490
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who else you Bilt like.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, let's get to a break. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll

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Speaker 2: be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 3: At least.

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: helps the algorithms and everything. You can leave us some

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Speaker 2: questions and comments on there as well. Of course, Sunday

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Speaker 2: through Tuesday of next week will have a bonus three

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Speaker 2: hour show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he starts to join us for an hour

513
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Speaker 2: sounds get the more starks.

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Speaker 3: People like that from the combine. I got a lot

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Speaker 3: of good responses, rightfully, so Max brings a new perspective

516
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: and you know, really smart.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to listen to us drone on right.

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Speaker 3: And some of his O line insights are really really

519
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Speaker 3: strong too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of insights and strong insights on NFL dot

521
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Speaker 2: com today, Lance zier Line, who does all their analysts

522
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Speaker 2: on the draft or analysis on the draft, I should say,

523
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: ranks the position groups in the show's draft. He does

524
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Speaker 2: this every year and we go over this.

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Speaker 3: And start weakest the strongest.

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Speaker 2: It's not all that surprising, but he does. So what

527
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Speaker 2: he the way he does this here is he he pulled.

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Speaker 2: He rated each group where prospects will be drafted in

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Speaker 2: rounds one through five. He waited star players a little

530
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Speaker 2: bit more or twice as heavily as over all depth

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Speaker 2: and gave them meet you, sir Worth between ten and thirty.

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Speaker 2: A score of twenty points or higher for position group

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Speaker 2: is considered strong.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I hadn't seen that way of doing it. People

535
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Speaker 3: just usually say running back better than line. This just

536
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Speaker 3: gives you a little different respective line. Okay, cool, So

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Speaker 3: safety is his number eleven position thirteen and a half points.

538
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Speaker 3: We just previewed safeties on Steelers Dot Calm today, and

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Speaker 3: I would conmpletely agree with this. We all linebackers for

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Speaker 3: me too.

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Speaker 2: The three of us met you and Mike pursuita to

542
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Speaker 2: do that had the same exact top five, because that's

543
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Speaker 2: the top five or safe.

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Speaker 3: A whole lot else, and I had a hard time

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Speaker 3: digging up a sleeper that I was super excited about either.

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Speaker 3: Off of all, linebacker wasn't real rip roaring fun either, though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that position better than safety.

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Speaker 3: Do I do? So they would be my two tenders.

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Speaker 3: The side note, does he break down interior line and

550
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Speaker 3: tackle or just line? I don't. We'll come up you'll

551
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Speaker 3: find out.

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Speaker 2: Yea his number ten position, quarterback fourteen points.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a little harsh. I think Ward's a

554
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Speaker 3: really good prospect, and I like the day. I like

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Speaker 3: the third fourth round neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Wards a good prospect, but he's not a generational talent.

557
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Speaker 2: I think he could be a good quarterback, I don't

558
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Speaker 2: think he can be necessarily a top ten quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I like him better than that.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he could be in that eleven

561
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Speaker 2: twelve thirteen range if things work out for him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I like him better than that. I'm not saying

563
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Speaker 3: he's the next Mahomes or.

564
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Speaker 2: Allen, Like, is he going to be better than Who's

565
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Speaker 2: who's number ten right now?

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Speaker 3: Who's I think he could be better than Hurtz or

567
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Speaker 3: Dak or Shroud. I had a love good correcting it. Yeah,

568
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Speaker 3: that's who those guys are right now. Yeah. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: a neighborhood.

570
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Speaker 2: And the landing spot isn't going to be great for

571
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Speaker 2: him to work out that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not his fault though, but yeah, it's not

573
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Speaker 3: gonna it's me uphill climb.

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Speaker 2: And you know, again, I think Sanders is a fine prospect,

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Speaker 2: but if he's your number two prospect for that part,

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Speaker 2: I don't like. Yeah, right, and then there's some mid

577
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Speaker 2: round guys that I like, but I.

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Speaker 3: Don't still love the misnomer of this is a terrible

579
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Speaker 3: quarterback draft, like as last year. That's for sure, but

580
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Speaker 3: that's horrendous. It's not ritter And how.

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Speaker 2: Like Ward's gonna go number one overall more than likely. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that anybody's saying he shouldn't go

583
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Speaker 2: number one overall. No, even though he's you know, maybe

584
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Speaker 2: he's a top twelve to fifteen guy in this particular draft,

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Speaker 2: but just because the top of this draft there aren't stars.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I mean I love Hunter. I think Carter's

587
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Speaker 3: even a little overrated. I mean I think rams overrated.

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Speaker 3: Whoever O line wone.

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Speaker 2: Campbell by the way, thirty three ins arms today at

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Speaker 2: the LSU pro I'm.

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Speaker 3: Glad you brought that up. I think that's kind of

592
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Speaker 3: funny too. Yeah, we were talking about.

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Speaker 2: That, and that was measured by an NFL scout, not

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Speaker 2: somebody at LSU.

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Speaker 3: Well who did it at the Senior Bowl or whatever? Though, well,

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Speaker 3: you know how that goes, right, he was he was

597
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Speaker 3: this close to having thirty three inch arms. Yeah, so

598
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Speaker 3: maybe it's like the Milroe hand thing.

599
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Speaker 2: Though, stretched his arms out a little bit more today

600
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Speaker 2: and he's got the thing about Campbell.

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean to go down this street.

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Speaker 2: He was a freshman, true freshman starter at LSU at

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Speaker 2: left tackle in the SEC that matters to me. Walked

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Speaker 2: off his high school campus. He graduated through his cap

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Speaker 2: in here and walked into LSU and became a starting

606
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Speaker 2: left tackle in the SEC.

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Speaker 3: He's a tackle and black blocked Will Anderson. Yeah, he

608
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Speaker 3: is an offensive tackle. I don't care how long his

609
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Speaker 3: arms are. I definitely would start him there. Yeah, with

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Speaker 3: the trampoline or the parachute.

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Speaker 2: Whether his arm is thirty two and five eighths, which

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Speaker 2: is I think what it was, or thirty three inches.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about this much three ace of inch.

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Speaker 3: However, the one thing I'll dispute you on is at

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Speaker 3: the Combine it was under and its pro day it

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Speaker 3: was at thirty three. I mean, it's like, who's doing

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Speaker 3: these measurements. There's a couple of arm links like that

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Speaker 3: and the Milroe hand thing. I saw something somebody said

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Speaker 3: all of the arm links at the Combine this year

620
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Speaker 3: were shorter. There's more to this story. That's were they

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Speaker 3: were shorter than they had been to Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: They were shorter than they had been at the.

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Speaker 3: There's something going on with it. He's not the only one.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm picking Frankly as high as four and

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Speaker 3: as late as maybe like eleven, I'm gonna have him

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Speaker 3: in for a visit and I'm gonna put him ruler on.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, right right, But I know he can play

628
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Speaker 2: offensive line. In the NFL, and it'd be really good

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Speaker 2: at it.

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Speaker 3: It's funny. I'm a big duke Manny Weather fan who's

631
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Speaker 3: like the O line guru, and I happened to listen.

632
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Speaker 3: I say this every day. I feel like I was

633
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 3: listening to a podcasts to do Anywhere on It and

634
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Speaker 3: he's like, yes, under thirty three is bad, but if

635
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Speaker 3: you have super light feet, you have to have super

636
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Speaker 3: life and he does you have to and yeah, you

637
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Speaker 3: have to have super light feet, and he's like, Campbell

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Speaker 3: does yeah, and I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah at nine is linebacker at sixteen and a half points, Well,

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Speaker 2: I think that's true. I do like some of those

641
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Speaker 2: mid round linebackers sweasing your Demetrius Knight. He's a little

642
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: bit older, but that's fine. Yeah, you know, g Hud Campbell,

643
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Speaker 2: Jalen Walker. I think both could be first round picks,

644
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Speaker 2: and I think both are off ball linebackers.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Walker is That's why I didn't include.

646
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: That's why I was lower on the linebackers. I think

647
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: Campbell will be drafted as off the ball linebacker that

648
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Speaker 3: can rush the passer. I think Walker is going to

649
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: be an edge that can drop, which I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: if either is great, but full discrepancy linebacker is definitely

651
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: the position I've done the least work on. Yeah, I

652
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: don't think Steelers are involved.

653
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: Seven tied for seventh is interior offensive line. Yeah, I

654
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: think seventeen points.

655
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: There might not be a starting center in the group.

656
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: If so, there's one or two. If Zabel's one of them,

657
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: says in here, this could change if armand Membo, Will Campbell,

658
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: Kelvin Banks moved the guard, and that become realtrong. It

659
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 3: becomes again. Now you've got three first round guards and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

660
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: but then tackle would be horrible. Yeah. Uh. Seven tied

661
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: for seventh at seventeen points. His cornerback, Okay, only who

662
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: I'd pick ahead of him. I'm starting to think I

663
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: agree with that because I think there's a lot of

664
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 3: red flags.

665
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: There are a lot of red flags on a lot

666
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: of these different guys. Like the Florida State kid ran

667
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: a four to five.

668
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: Seven, Like I love Revel, but he's not healthy.

669
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: He's not healthy. Will Johnson hasn't run yet and he's

670
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 2: not expected to be a burner either. Yeah, there's again

671
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: a lot of that. Well, this guy has a he's

672
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: coming off of an ACL injury. That guy's coming off

673
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: of foot injury. This guy's got this, that guy's got that.

674
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: Now Travis Hunter, I say, where.

675
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 3: Are we counting him? Yeah? He sways things a lot

676
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: for me.

677
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's considering him a cornerback in this one. So

678
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: there gives that gives you your star power there, and

679
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: I do think there are there are some corners in

680
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: this draft that could turn out to be good players,

681
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of question marks with this group.

682
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: Wide. Receiver is the other one I would consider for

683
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: this spot off the top of my head. Well, maybe tackle,

684
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: because I think the other positions are strong. Yeah, you know,

685
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 3: running back, d line, edge, tight end. I mean, I

686
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 3: don't think receiver is strong. But if I'm treating Hunter

687
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: as a receiver and not a corner, that might be

688
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: enough for me to go receiver over corner.

689
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: Well, receiver gets is six at seventeen and a half points.

690
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: But you have to also look at it. Okay, you

691
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: got Golden Burden McMillan, and there'll be some other guys

692
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: in that group that go in the second round, the

693
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: third you.

694
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: Know, sure, sure that's true. A corner though, too. I mean,

695
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: there's not gonna be devoid.

696
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: Of first, I don't know that there aren't as many

697
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: question marks in terms of injury stuff, and I don't.

698
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: Know how much this should count, But just compared to

699
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: most receiver class, this.

700
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: Is it's a bad Yeah, yes, that's why it's sixed here.

701
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: Now we're starting to get into again. If it's twenty

702
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: or more points, then it's a really good group. Offensive

703
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: tackle is fifth with eighteen points, So I would not

704
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: consider that a really good It's about an average group.

705
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: And I assume they're counting all the potential guards as

706
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: tackles for now as I would. Yeah, okay, that's fine.

707
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: Tight End is eighteen and a half points.

708
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 3: That's fourth. All these other ones I think are good.

709
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got two, you got two stars there. You

710
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: got some depth at the position. I think it's a

711
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: good one. He mentions Thomas Fedon is an underrated third

712
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: day pick, as is Jackson Hass a later run blocker. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

713
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: take them put them at full back.

714
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: I like the Georgia kid. I mean, I think there's

715
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: a couple of dudes in the mid rounds. It would

716
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 3: be yeah, decent. I'm not big on Fannin. I don't

717
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: quite buy that one, but I think are going to

718
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: go pretty high.

719
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: Number three on here is interior defensive line twenty two points,

720
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: so that's above average. He said this There hasn't been

721
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: a draft with more than eleven defensive tackles taken in

722
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: the first one hundred picks since twenty sixteen.

723
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: He said, we could get to eleven.

724
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: There were fourteen that year. He said this year could

725
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: match that total.

726
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: Wow, so he thinks it's clearly over eleven. I'm not

727
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: ye add them up in my mind, but that seems

728
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: to add up to He said.

729
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: There should be four first rounders who could all become stars,

730
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, Derek Harmon, Walter Nolan. We know

731
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: all about those guys, he said, but the most impressive

732
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: part of this group is how many quality starters it's

733
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: likely to produce.

734
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: TJ.

735
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: Sanders, Josh Farmer, Tyleek Williams could all go in the

736
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: second round. The run on tackle should be heavy throughout

737
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: the Day two of this draft. The position is not

738
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: only deep, but filled with more pass rush potential than

739
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 2: we usually see.

740
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: I mean, our regular listeners probably don't even need to

741
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: hear this again, but I think you're going to get

742
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: fourth round noses and fifth round noses too because of

743
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: the pass rush potential. Yeah, one hundred percent. They're valuable guys,

744
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: not splitting hairs. But I do think, yes, there's a

745
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: really good chance there's four defensive tackles in the first round,

746
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: but maybe only one when the Steelers are on the clock.

747
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: Right, which is typically what's been happening with our mock drafts.

748
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they might all go to playoff teams. Yeah,

749
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: two is running back twenty four points really good? Yeah,

750
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: if Hampton's your number two and you have the depth there,

751
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: that's pretty strong.

752
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Raveon Henderson, Quinn, Shawn Judkins, you know, and

753
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: then you're looking at even guys like Baychelle Touton, Dylan Samson,

754
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: trevoriy TN, Jayden Blue. I mean, these guys are going

755
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: to be contributors.

756
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: I was, I wasn't a huge Bucky Irving fan or Yeah,

757
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: this kind of discredited him a little bit last year.

758
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 3: Then he went and what the fourth round? The fifth round?

759
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: Fourth round guy, there'll be two of them this year too.

760
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know that are mid round picks that

761
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: have a thousand yards out of nowhere you know, yeah,

762
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen. Again.

763
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: That leaves as number one edge defender at twenty six

764
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: and a half points. And again when we do a

765
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 2: mock drafts, I mean there's like eight of these guys

766
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 2: that might go in the first round.

767
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: From two hundred and eighty five pounds to two hundred

768
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: and forty pounds too. Yeah, but they're all lining up

769
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: on the edge two point three point stance. But there's

770
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: a wide variety. I'm glad the Steelers aren't in that market.

771
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: And I think that's the position that our fans, Steeler

772
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: fans want to draft the other edge draft, other ridge

773
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: draft on other edge. You want them to fly off

774
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: the board. Yeah, but it would be nice to dip

775
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: your toe in that water.

776
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: It's gonna and again, you know, as we just did

777
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: in our mock draft, that that that edge defender who's

778
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: going to be available in the sixth round, like what

779
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: we just did.

780
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: In most years probably goes in the third or fourth one. Say,

781
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: if that's a fourth round player in the sixth then

782
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: I'm interested. Yeah, I mean, there's always a ripple effect.

783
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: But because it's such a good position this year, it

784
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: is it is inegri it's number one, I think. So, yeah,

785
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: just because of the volume, there's gonna be six first rounders.

786
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: And Carter's going to go early, and you know there're

787
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: so he gets some a little bit of star power there.

788
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: But there might be six of those guys who go

789
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: into top twenty, if not more.

790
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: And it's not just because the Eagles won the Super Bowl,

791
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: but I mean, I think people are going to be

792
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: looking at developmental edge. Okay, yeah, guys, tiebreaker.

793
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: He's got the speed he bends off the edge.

794
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: Like.

795
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of those guys this year, and

796
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: it's it's interesting that the Steelers needs going into this

797
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: draft running back into your defensive line, two of the

798
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: top three positions.

799
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: It's not an accident to set yourself up to swim

800
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: in the deepest waters. Absolutely doesn't mean you trade T. J.

801
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: Watts so you can go in the edge in the

802
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: edge waters.

803
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right, No, that's not how you want to do that,

804
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: but certainly works.

805
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: Out well m hm no, it's good, good situation.

806
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: Those were Lance zero lines rankings. We talk about Lance

807
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: a lot on here because he does the draft analysis

808
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Speaker 2: for NFL dot com. You can check that out on

809
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: NFL dot com. But he is Matt Williamson. I am

810
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on the

811
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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and

812
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: now I'll be back to finish up the show right

813
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Speaker 2: after this.

814
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Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

815
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

816
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Black and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

817
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

818
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt.

819
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: That break took a turn of events. I was expecting

820
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: inside joke.

821
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: Well, just don't show up wearing your screen mask.

822
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: Hey, yikes. Anyways, so Queasi Adolpho Mensa had a press

823
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: conference and he is the general manager of the Minnesota Vikings,

824
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: and he said that JJ McCarthy being their starting quarterback

825
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: this year is the outcome we want and the outcome

826
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: we're heading towards. Okay, I mean what you did the

827
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: trade up to get him and investigate a bit, and

828
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 3: I assume he's healthy. I'm sure, he said.

829
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: Earlier this week he talked with somebody said yeah, I'm

830
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm read to the schedule, I'm ready to go.

831
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 3: And I understand that, Hey, we really outkicked our coverage

832
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 3: without him last year? Could we be could we win

833
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl with a non rookie ish quarterback? But

834
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: this was the plan all along. It was the plan.

835
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: The plan was to starting last year right right right,

836
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: and operate the big picture on a rookie quarterback salary. Yeah,

837
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: it allows you to allow them to go out and

838
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 3: spend three hundred million dollars this officer and a super

839
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: expensive wide receiver and other things.

840
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: You know.

841
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: So that's that's the plan. To stick with it, and

842
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't know why you'd really deviate. Yeah.

843
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: He was the number ten overall pick in the twenty

844
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: twenty four draft, and he said he was asked about

845
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, and he says, for me to sit here

846
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: and say that anything's one hundred percent forever, that's not

847
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: the job. We're responding to the scenarios with different information

848
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: as it comes. So obviously things can change. But right now,

849
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: we're really happy with our quarterback room and we're going

850
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: to look to upgrade it in different ways.

851
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: Okay, they don't have a clear backup at the moment, though, right.

852
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: They have somebody on Yeah, I mean they have like

853
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: a three that's where Joe Flacco is going to end

854
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: up somewhere something like somebody could be a mentor.

855
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: To right, right, right, And that makes all the sense

856
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: in the world. It's still a pretty cheap room. He's

857
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 3: non threatening. He could do well with thrust into action

858
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: or whatever. You know. No, I think that's a good move. Yeah,

859
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: but it's not Aaron Rodgers. No, I don't.

860
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: That's not going to happen. Then there's one destination now

861
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: for Aaron Rodgers, and it's Pittsburgh.

862
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, or retirement, which I don't think is.

863
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: And as I said, come here, as I said when

864
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: the show opened today, Russell Wilson does not sign with

865
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: the Giants unless the Steelers tell him. Right, okay, Russ,

866
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Speaker 2: we're moving on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because Russell Wilson wanted to return to Pittsburgh, that

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Speaker 3: was his ideal outcome. I mean, even with Rudolph in place,

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Speaker 3: I know Rudolph and Winston are making similar money. He

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Speaker 3: would clearly be the one here. I'm not sure he's

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Speaker 3: clear really the one in New York. I think they're

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Speaker 3: paying they're paying more, don't get me wrong. I mean I'm.

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Speaker 2: Aware, But that's a tight rope to walk with jamis

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Speaker 2: I know, like, say what you want about Russ, but

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Speaker 2: Russ protects the football a hundred times percent better than.

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Speaker 3: That's just a weird quarterback room already if you throw.

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Speaker 2: In imagine, imagine those quarterback room meetings. By the way,

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Speaker 2: russitting back here talking to himself, which he does.

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Speaker 3: But I got no problem with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he's he's a big mental preparation guy. And

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Speaker 2: you got Jamis over there eating W's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it seems I mean, I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's better than I do. But I don't think russ

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Speaker 3: Is not coming back had anything to do with his

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Speaker 3: personality or anything. And I think he was great with

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Speaker 3: all those arts, right, I got. I have nothing but

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Speaker 3: good things to say about Russell Wilson in terms of

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Speaker 3: his personality.

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Speaker 2: He yeah, his he was nothing but good to me.

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Speaker 2: We we you know, every time I dealt with him,

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Speaker 2: was always available, was good with his teammates. There was

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Speaker 2: nobody in that locker room that disliked Russell. You had

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Speaker 2: to if you dislike Russell Wilson the person, you gotta

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Speaker 2: work really hard. You get there's you gotta take a

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Speaker 2: look in the mirror and say, what what am I

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Speaker 2: doing wrong?

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Speaker 3: I didn't understand. I wasn't close to it. But you know,

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Speaker 3: he's a bad fit in Denver blah blah. I mean

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Speaker 3: he's a diva and then he got here. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: where'd that come from? I mean, unless he I can

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Speaker 3: have to say year as he did there, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know if you were the kind of person that looks

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Speaker 2: at somebody who always has a positive outcome on it

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Speaker 2: or a positive outlook of everything, and say nobody can

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Speaker 2: be that positive. All everyone seems to think he is

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Speaker 2: extremely generated.

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Speaker 3: That's just who he is. Who he is, right. I

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Speaker 3: meant to ask Labs this, and if he is just

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Speaker 3: a mediocre year in New York and rides off in

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Speaker 3: the sunset or gives way to a rookie, is he

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Speaker 3: get in the Hall of Fame? I think so it's

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Speaker 3: pretty close.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's he's like top fifteen, closing in on

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Speaker 2: top ten and everything.

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Speaker 3: I mean the day he got traded the Denver I

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Speaker 3: was asked that and I said, yes, that even if

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Speaker 3: he doesn't play again. But his case didn't get stronger

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Speaker 3: since Seattle. Yeah, obviously, I think he's real close, and

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Speaker 3: I would bet he gets.

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Speaker 2: Some of the things that did get stronger though, are

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Speaker 2: the the Cumultuve stats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he has those numbers now, I mean he has

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Speaker 3: such as Rogers by the way, but one of the

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Speaker 3: best td'ed interception ratios of all time, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: top three. Yeah, absolutely, But yeah, I'm really formed. I

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Speaker 3: wish him nothing but the best.

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Speaker 2: Again, I would have you know, if you were the

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Speaker 2: Steelers quarterback this year, I would have been perfectly happy

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Speaker 2: with that.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is. Yeah, that's the way it works.

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Speaker 2: That's going to do it for our show today. So

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Speaker 2: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here running

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Speaker 2: the Justin Miller hotline. And we want to thank Bob Labriola,

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Speaker 2: the editor of Steelers Digest and Steelers dot Com, for

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Speaker 2: dropping buys he does every Wednesday for Tyler Viittmeyer making

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Speaker 2: sure our video gets out there onto YouTube.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. Thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 3: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network.