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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of talk about the Academy Awards

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Speaker 1: this year, and all over social media were posts what

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Speaker 1: is Courtney Gardasian doing at the Oscars? What are Courtney

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Speaker 1: and Travis doing at the Oscars? And then something about

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Speaker 1: other social media people, and many of the social media

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Speaker 1: people are at the after parties, which I think is

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Speaker 1: definitely different. You can have an after party and I

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Speaker 1: guess invite whoever you want. But then again, you can

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Speaker 1: have the Oscars and invite whoever you want. The question

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Speaker 1: is should people that don't have a direct connection to

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Speaker 1: the Academy or the Oscars attend? So I get invited

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Speaker 1: to fashion shows, I get invited first row, front row

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Speaker 1: to shows nine out of ten times, I politely decline

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Speaker 1: why it feels weird. It doesn't really have anything to

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Speaker 1: do with me. I'm not known as somebody in the

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Speaker 1: fashion business. Am I in the Do I wear fashion? Yes?

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Speaker 1: But I'm not on the forefront. I'm not that current.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, So it feels weird

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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna just act all high and mighty and

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Speaker 1: like it's so I've got to go to fashion week.

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Speaker 1: Go it's fashion week. I gotta run to Fashion Week,

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Speaker 1: it just feels stupid for me. I guess if I

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Speaker 1: really had great relationships with the designers and for years

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Speaker 1: and ever looked through Vogue and Harper's Bizarre, then it

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Speaker 1: would have something to do with me. But I don't

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Speaker 1: do that. And when I'll get invited to let's say

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Speaker 1: something at Tribeca Film Festival, I also don't really go

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't have anything to do with me. And

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Speaker 1: my fiance has produced multiple films, but if he didn't

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Speaker 1: have one there, I just wouldn't sort of go. I

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Speaker 1: might go as a just an attendee, just a person

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Speaker 1: going to see a movie, but I'm often sensitive about

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Speaker 1: things that apply to me and don't meaning I in

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Speaker 1: l A last week for the final season of Ellen

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Speaker 1: and I Heeart Awards, and people are saying, Oh, You're

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Speaker 1: staying for the Oscars, and I thought, no, because the

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Speaker 1: Oscars has nothing to do with me, And I feel

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Speaker 1: like a weirdo being on the red carpet having nothing

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Speaker 1: to say because it has nothing to do with me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not an actor. I didn't write a screenplay, I

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Speaker 1: didn't direct the film. I'm not a producer, and it

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Speaker 1: would feel sort of disingenuous and a little bit like

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Speaker 1: the Emperor has no clothes. So when you think about

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Speaker 1: some of the court, Andy Kardashian going to the Oscars, now,

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Speaker 1: she's a lot to go wherever she wants, and if

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Speaker 1: they invite her as the Kardashian to represent the night,

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Speaker 1: then that's their business and that's her business. But I

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Speaker 1: wonder if people like Cape chess Stain or Nicole Kidman

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Speaker 1: or Meryl Streep or those types of people, uh, Gwyneth

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Speaker 1: Paltrow who's crossed over into other worlds too. But Glenn Close,

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Speaker 1: these are very serious actresses. These are film actresses. These

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Speaker 1: are Academy Award winning and nominated actresses. Do they just

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Speaker 1: not deserve for the oscar? There's to sort of be

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Speaker 1: there night to shine without Glenn Close feeling like she's

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Speaker 1: competing with a TikTok star or an Instagram star. Can't

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Speaker 1: we just let them have their night without it being

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Speaker 1: cluttered with social media people and just like the low

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Speaker 1: hanging uh click bait paparazzi fruit. You know, Like I

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Speaker 1: just wonder, is anything really pure and sacred or does

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Speaker 1: everything evolved and the only thing that matters of social media.

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Speaker 1: I just see the Oscars. It's such a an elegant

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Speaker 1: like like Joan Crawford and Audrey Hepburn and Kathyine Hepburn,

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Speaker 1: and you know, let these starlets, these current starlets, let

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Speaker 1: them have it. Let them have the Oscars, Let it

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Speaker 1: have that sort of pristine nature. But does that not sell?

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Speaker 1: Do we need Addison Ray and Charlie Dmilio from TikTok

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Speaker 1: literally don't know. People are asking about Cortney Kardashian and

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Speaker 1: a soundtrack for a movie? Because can't we just can

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Speaker 1: we just give Hollywood there one night without you know,

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Speaker 1: can't we just give them their night? Um? But then

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Speaker 1: one could say the met Ball is about serious fashion

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Speaker 1: So does anything matter anymore? Is it just fame? I

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Speaker 1: presenting awards uh to to Meryl Streep at the Academy Awards.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know, because I know that the

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Speaker 1: and I guess they have influence on fashion. But I

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Speaker 1: just don't know if somebody with millions and millions of

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Speaker 1: actually participated in a film, Like I didn't earn my

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Speaker 1: place on a red carpet at the Grammys, the Emmy's

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Speaker 1: or the Oscars. I really did it these This is

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Speaker 1: for serious, serious actors. Um so it's just being famous

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Speaker 1: is all that matters in these award it shows? Why

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Speaker 1: in smaller circles. But having walked the red carpet in

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Speaker 1: my life, because I have some slight modicum of fame,

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Speaker 1: should I just go to the NASCAR Awards? Fuck it? Fuck?

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Speaker 1: Did I have a car? I'm going to Nascar. I

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the Food Network Awards. I have linger right,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the Porn Awards. I'm going to Vegas

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Speaker 1: and going to the Porn Awards. Does it matter? Or

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Speaker 1: is it just if you are famous? You should just

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Speaker 1: the funk cares? But I went to the I Heeart Awards.

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Speaker 1: You want to know why? I have a podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeart seemed to make some good sense to me. They

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Speaker 1: I'd like to let Meryl Streep go to the Academy

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Speaker 1: a purist. What can I say, so I was getting

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Speaker 1: on a plane and I commented on Jada Pinkett's amazing

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Speaker 1: textually assaulted because it seemed like I was rewarding bad

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Speaker 1: slapped Chris Rock. Okay, so I did not know that.

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Speaker 1: and he didn't make fifty jokes you're about to poke

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Speaker 1: bad luck and a bad joke. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: As far as comedians go, they get creative license way

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Speaker 1: bigger than anybody else. If I just stood on stage

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Speaker 1: and said something about somebody that had alopecia, I'd be done.

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Speaker 1: I'd be canceled. But like comedians did, they go to

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Speaker 1: because assault and physical harm or touching somebody else is

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Speaker 1: absolutely not acceptable. But don't we have to be accountable

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Speaker 1: for the things that we say. So Chris Rock was said,

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Speaker 1: Chris Rock ironically made a movie called Hair. He made

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Speaker 1: because he was now making fun of Jada Pinkett's hair,

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Speaker 1: know that. But usually the academy would know what's going

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Speaker 1: Second of all, you have a presenter that's working for

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Speaker 1: you at the Academy. You've called them, you've hired them,

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Speaker 1: you've organized it. They're effectively in your house. They're working

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Speaker 1: for you. They touched somebody, they punched somebody, they slap somebody,

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Speaker 1: You have the person removed, You give them their awards separately.

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Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, hey, no, you just smack somebody presenting,

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Speaker 1: Will Smith one shortly thereafter. I can't overstate the fact

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Speaker 1: bad example for your kids, it's a bad example for America.

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Speaker 1: It's a bad example for how to deal with conflict.

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Speaker 1: You don't just slap somebody. You don't touch somebody else.

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Speaker 1: So I think that Will Smith is hostile because he's

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Speaker 1: had very publicized information about his relationship. Here's another thing.

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Speaker 1: They were walking into the Comedy Seller on Bleaker Street,

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Speaker 1: You're not in the front row of a gritty comedy

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Speaker 1: You went through nine hours of glam. You're wearing a

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Speaker 1: because you're going out to an elegant evening the account

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Speaker 1: to comedic criticism. It's just not the comedy Seller. There's

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Speaker 1: how far is too far, particularly in an event that's

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Speaker 1: not about that. It's not a roast. This was not

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Speaker 1: a roast. This was an award show for actors. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Will and Jada should walk in

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Speaker 1: I think that that is where the line is, and

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Speaker 1: the line got crossed. There's still no excuse for handling

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Speaker 1: to me where the line is with comedy. If somebody

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Speaker 1: you used to perform at the groundings, You're allowed to

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Speaker 1: say something that's nasty to somebody else just because it's funny.

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Speaker 1: Because then, where is the line? That's why people get

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Speaker 1: I want to know. In talking about the Oscars and

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Speaker 1: Courtney Kardashian and Travis, I saw their tongues touch each

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know that I need to see people's

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Speaker 1: their prerogative. But I just learned. You got us to

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Speaker 1: see them fully making out, they're doing that and putting

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Speaker 1: And if they're really famous, there are many cameras, Like,

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Speaker 1: So when you see j Lo and Ben Affleck making

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Speaker 1: the red carpet, tongue touching, and it's just it's just

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Speaker 1: to see their public displays of affection. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what that exactly means. I personally listen, I've kissed Paul

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Speaker 1: and held his hand and had people capture that on camera,

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Speaker 1: but so full on be like, can you please please

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Speaker 1: photograph the two of us making it at we don't

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Speaker 1: be here for a breathe much less. Millions of people

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Speaker 1: like I'm not on brant to see my tongue touching

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Speaker 1: Paul's tongue like in any situation, I really don't, am

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