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Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's Voice News. This is Sunday the

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Speaker 1: Road Forward. Stay with us as we discuss the intersection

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Speaker 1: of faith, culture and everyday life.

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Speaker 2: As always a word.

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Speaker 1: Of hope and encouragement for you and those you love,

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Speaker 1: especially in these challenging times. Oh, doctor Tim Clinton, I'll

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Speaker 1: be your host. Our special guest joining this week. He's

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Speaker 1: lead pastor of Pathways Church in Mobile, Alabama. Pastor Travis

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Speaker 1: Johnson is with us. He's the founder and chairman of

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Speaker 1: the Faith in Freedom Coalition. Ralph red is with us.

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Speaker 1: She is the best selling author, speaker, podcaster. Heidie Saint

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Speaker 1: John is back with us and she is a clinical

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Speaker 1: and forensic psychologist, trauma and addictions expert. Doctor SHAWNE. Anderson,

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Speaker 1: thanks for watching. Growing concerns of anti Semitism in the

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Speaker 1: Nation of Israel continue to be in the news. Prime

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Speaker 1: Minister Benjamin Netan Yahoo and an Israeli delegation met with

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Speaker 1: a group of evangelicals in Palm Beach recently, working to

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Speaker 1: solidify their relationship and to deal with the concerns of

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Speaker 1: anti Semitism, especially among today's generations.

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Speaker 2: You know what the Bible says.

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Speaker 1: The Bible says that those who bless Israel will be blessed,

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Speaker 1: and those who curse Israel will be cursed. Waste, fraud

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Speaker 1: and abuse in America found by Elon Musk and Doge

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Speaker 1: That Department of Government efficiency over the past year has

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Speaker 1: really stunned the nation. But what's happening in Minnesota right

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Speaker 1: now is shocking the nation. Widespread fraud is unbelievable. It

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Speaker 1: was exposed by a young man named Nick Shirley.

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Speaker 2: He blew it wide open.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about an estimated nine billion dollars, basically stealing

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Speaker 1: American taxpayer's money. Democratic Governor Tim Wats is in trouble.

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Speaker 1: They're a massive caulsure his resignation. He in fact pulled

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Speaker 1: out of the race for re election as governor. He

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Speaker 1: will not seek a third term and this will be

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Speaker 1: his last year as governor of Minnesota. President Trump is

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Speaker 1: looking at sending I think two thousand agents to Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: Tom Holman, Borderzar says they're launching catch. This the largest

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Speaker 1: operation ever there in Minnesota. And now it seems like

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Speaker 1: the fraud investigation is going to go coast to coast.

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Speaker 1: Elon must told us following recently over two hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty million of them that the fraud in California, New York,

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Speaker 1: and Illinois is far greater than what's happening in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: If you can.

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Speaker 1: Believe that this new year, all eyes also locked in

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Speaker 1: on Venezuela, the capture of Nicholas Maduro and his wife,

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Speaker 1: a flawless operation by the finest military in the world.

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Speaker 1: Maduro and Marxist dictator is now locked up a waiting trial,

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Speaker 1: and they're celebrating in Venezuela. What's amazing to me is

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Speaker 1: how the radical Dems they're taking the bad guy's side.

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Speaker 1: When the President removed the corrupt Marxist dictator again who

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Speaker 1: was working directly with drug cartels to poison American citizens,

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Speaker 1: Democrats defended the dictator and accused Trump of committing impeachable offenses.

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Speaker 1: Smith, you see him on ESPN, said this, if you've

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Speaker 1: got a bounty on his head, and the bid the

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Speaker 1: administration had a bounty on his head, once you get him,

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Speaker 1: that's not something to be complaining about.

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Speaker 2: I agree. Hey, in times like these.

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Speaker 1: Our hope, our strength comes from the Lord. Here's a

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Speaker 1: great verse from the Bible to hold on to this week.

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Speaker 1: It's a reminder that how much we need each other

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Speaker 1: one Thessalonians, Chapter five, verse eleven. It says this, therefore,

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Speaker 1: encourage one another and build one another up, just as

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Speaker 1: in fact you are doing. Hey, I'm going to pray.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get started. God be with us, bless

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Speaker 1: our program today, Use it for your glory. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for your steadfast love, your grace in our lives. In Jesus' name. Amen,

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Speaker 1: let's get started.

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Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 1: Joys Now is Travis Johnson. Travis is lead pastor of

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Speaker 1: Pathway Church in Mobile, Alabama. He also is CEO of

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Speaker 1: People for Care and Learning and founder of by a

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Speaker 1: Try Change of Life. He's a strong and faithful member

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Speaker 1: of the National Faith Advisory Board, a voice for such

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Speaker 1: a time as this, Pastor, Travis, thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, doctor Clinton. It's always so good to be

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Speaker 2: Travis. We get started.

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Speaker 1: You and I've had a lot of conversations about this

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Speaker 1: anti Semitism issue that's been happening really around the globe,

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Speaker 1: but was strong on college campuses here in the country.

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Speaker 1: There's now kind of some growing division inside the conservative movement.

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, and others.

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Speaker 2: It's icky.

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Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying, and there's conversation about replacement

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Speaker 4: You know? I think when I see Tucker Carlson and

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Speaker 4: Candice Owens those kinds of voices, these are voices that

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Speaker 4: we've loved and enjoyed. And so actually what it feels

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Speaker 4: like is they're turning in on the historic victory from

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Speaker 4: President Trump and the base that put him in the

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Speaker 4: office and put him in office. So when I see

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Speaker 4: is a direct attack on evangelicals over just what you said,

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Speaker 4: replacement theology, saying that Israel has been uprooted and gentile

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Speaker 4: Christians have replaced them. This is clearly not what scripture says.

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Speaker 4: We're grafted in. God still favors and has chosen Israel.

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Speaker 4: He has a plan for Israel. Of course, we are

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Speaker 4: saved by Jesus Christ and Christ alone, but this does

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Speaker 4: not give license to some pseudo fake Christians to become

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Speaker 4: anti Semite. So that's been very difficult to see. It's

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Speaker 4: one thing to see this happening at Columbia University Campus

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Speaker 4: Ivy League schools with their ready made protest in a

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Speaker 4: box the day after October seventh. Right, we've seen that,

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Speaker 4: we understand that. But to see this on the right,

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Speaker 4: it's terrible. It's got to be denounced. There's no problem

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Speaker 4: Have no problem distancing myself from that because it has

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Speaker 4: no place in a conservative party. Is not conservative to

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Speaker 4: be anti submitic. I'm gonna read a passage really quick,

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Speaker 4: Jeremiah thirty one thirty six. Listen to this. I don't

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Speaker 4: even know how you refute this. The Lord says, I

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Speaker 4: am as likely to reject my people Israel as I

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Speaker 4: am to abolish the laws of nature. God will cancel

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Speaker 2: Travis.

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Speaker 1: A lot of evangelical pastors are galvanizing together on this

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Speaker 1: very issue. A pastor Jack Graham, Pastor Jensen Franklin, a

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Speaker 1: am all friends of ours in the midst of it, Travis,

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Speaker 1: something significant happened in Palm Beach top of the new year. Here, President,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahoo was in that part

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Speaker 4: You know, it was great. I appreciated your words that

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Speaker 4: One reason I'm thankful is because you know, Europe has

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Speaker 1: This comes on the heels of a trip that was

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Speaker 4: They're they're you know, running around with these you know,

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Speaker 1: On this very issue, some of the thoughts are takeaways

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, you know, gen Z is a powerful generation.

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Speaker 4: It's exciting to see what God's doing in them. They're

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Speaker 4: there's a real revival we're experiencing here in our church.

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Speaker 4: And let me tell you, they are the future of

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Speaker 4: really great, strong young boys.

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Speaker 2: You're going to win or lose the war.

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Speaker 4: We cannot disengage. We have to be engaged.

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Speaker 1: We want to salute the vision of Mike Evans, Jay

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Speaker 1: Strack and others who are helping. Yeah, just doing amazing

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Speaker 1: work in this particular area. Travis, I want to go

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Speaker 4: Even it feels like a very interesting moment in time

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Speaker 4: He is a peace president. And let me tell you,

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Speaker 4: Let me also take you growing up in Miami. I

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Speaker 1: Pastor Travis Johnson always great to have you, my friend,

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Speaker 5: Thank you Tim. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six, Ralph, this is the big midterms year.

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Speaker 2: I know it's some to you. A lot of people

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Speaker 5: I think we all know the history of this, tim

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Speaker 5: In twenty eighteen, the last time President Trump went into

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Speaker 5: you know. Obama lost sixty three seats. Clinton lost fifty

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Speaker 5: One of those was in nineteen thirty four during the

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Speaker 5: The good news is, as these redistricting battles have played out,

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Speaker 5: It's going to be no quarter given, it's going to

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying, you better fut in

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Speaker 5: The short answer is, I can't tell you today, but

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Speaker 5: and what ends up happening is the economy is going

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Speaker 5: Then we're gonna have a very good story to tell.

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Speaker 5: Last thing real quickly. You can't leave the healthcare issue

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Speaker 5: So we have to a tell that story and tell

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Speaker 5: the way, Tim, I'm sure this is one that's right

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Speaker 2: God'd be with us, Rolph.

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Speaker 1: That's all I can say, hey, I love having these

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Speaker 2: Heidi, welcome back. Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Hey, my friend, great to see you.

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Speaker 2: As we started. Heidi, waste, fraud and abuse.

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Speaker 1: You go back to President Trump taking office and he

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Speaker 1: Now go to fast forward to where we are right

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Speaker 2: What a mess.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about nine billion dollars possibly here uncovered by

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Speaker 6: Heidi, Yeah, it's amazing. Well, and also we finally got

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Speaker 6: But the Democrats are screaming for this kid to be silenced.

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Speaker 6: It's amazing what we see coming out of the left

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Speaker 6: I see now that Tim Walls is being forced to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's blowing up on him up there, massive calls

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Speaker 1: would go on. Here's what's shocking to me. They're now

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Speaker 1: saying that the massive scale of this across the country

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Speaker 1: in other states like California Governor Newsom is even bigger

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Speaker 1: than what's going on in Minnesota. I'm home and acting

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Speaker 1: borders are said, Hey, we're coming with everything that we

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Speaker 1: got I know that President Trump said let's put two

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Speaker 1: thousand ice agents up there. Things are happening in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a massive scandal

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Speaker 1: for a long time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so too. I was meeting a couple

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Speaker 6: of days ago with the sitting state senator here in

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Speaker 6: Washington State and a state representative who are telling me

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Speaker 6: that they believe that when the federal government turns its

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Speaker 6: attention to Washington State, we will be the second state

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Speaker 6: in terms of the abuse of the Somalis. Here. We've

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Speaker 6: got the second largest population of Somalis in Washington State,

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Speaker 6: and they are uncovering the same kind of fraud and

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Speaker 6: abuse here in Washington State. I think you're going to

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Speaker 6: find it's a cancer that's metastasized to states across the country.

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Speaker 1: How do the shocking piece to me? I guess it

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Speaker 1: really isn't. But the radical Dems are taking the bad

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Speaker 1: guy's side. I mean, I just I can't even imagine

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Speaker 1: what in the world's going on here. And when I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about it's not just Waltz and what's happening there,

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Speaker 1: but you look at Venezuela and what's going on. This

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Speaker 1: guy is he was unbelievable as a dictator down there,

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Speaker 1: and what happened to the people in Venezuela and all

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Speaker 1: the corruption that was taking place. And President Trump's trying

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Speaker 1: to stop all this drug insanity coming into our country,

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Speaker 1: killing our kids in our bedroom communities and more. Shut

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Speaker 1: that stuff down. He shuts it down. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden had a basically a bounty on this guy's head.

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Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying for I think it's twenty

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Speaker 1: five million or something like that. Crazy numbers, Heidi, this

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Speaker 1: gets done, and the people in this country, the radical

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Speaker 1: dams are what siding with him? Man, They're coming against

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Speaker 1: the president for doing this. What in the world's wrong

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Speaker 1: with us?

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Speaker 6: Well, we've lost our way spiritually in the country. And

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Speaker 6: when you lose your moral compass, you always choose the

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Speaker 6: side of chaos. And that's what we see is happening

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Speaker 6: in the Democrat Party. They've lost their moral compass. I

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Speaker 6: would say they lost their moral compass probably decades ago

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Speaker 6: when they started promoting abortion up to the moment of birth.

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Speaker 6: But what we see is evil. This is a spiritual problem,

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Speaker 6: and you and I have talked about this before. Spiritual

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Speaker 6: problems require spiritual solutions. We need revival in this nation.

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Speaker 6: We need to start talking about subjective truth versus objective

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Speaker 6: truth in our country again. And I wrote a post

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Speaker 6: about this a couple of days ago, and it reminds

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Speaker 6: me very much of the Jews screaming for the release

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Speaker 6: of Barabas. Remember when Pilot came out in front of

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Speaker 6: the people and said, what do you want me to do?

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Speaker 6: And they scream for the release of a murder This guy,

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Speaker 6: Barabas was not unknown to the Jews. They knew who

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Speaker 6: he was. They knew the evil that was in his heart.

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Speaker 6: The people on the Democrat party know the evil of

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Speaker 6: Nicholas Maduro. They know that the Venezuelans are starving to death.

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Speaker 6: They know that Nicholas Maduro is pushing drugs. He's a

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Speaker 6: narco terrorist, pushing drugs and machine guns and weapons into

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Speaker 6: our country. They know all these things, and yet they're

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Speaker 6: screaming for the release of Barabas. This is a spiritual

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Speaker 6: depravity that we see playing out in Democrat held cities

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Speaker 6: all across the country. And the only way it will

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Speaker 6: stop is for people of conscience and people, especially people

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Speaker 6: who know the Lord, to involve themselves in our political

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Speaker 6: system and begin to vote and make their voices heard again, HAIDI.

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Speaker 1: If you go into Venezuela, the people are rejoicing at

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Speaker 1: what President Trump has done. You go into places like Miami,

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Speaker 1: you can see the people rejoicing.

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Speaker 2: This is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: And in Washington there's some good people up there. They're

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Speaker 1: standing strong. But man, we've got to pray that God

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Speaker 1: would lead and direct and all that's done.

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Speaker 2: Ha doi.

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Speaker 1: In the midst of it, some said, yeah, probably some

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Speaker 1: other interesting dynamics happening out of Venezuela. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: mineral rich oil people talking about a possible oil boom.

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Speaker 1: Now people are also talking about dominion voting machines and

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Speaker 1: that there might be a little information that might slide

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Speaker 1: back into our country about what was taking place. I

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Speaker 1: guess there's probably some interesting dynamics that could surface here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so too. We've had problems with dominion voting machines

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Speaker 6: here in Washington State for a long time, and I

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Speaker 6: think we have a moment right now, and we better

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Speaker 6: seize the day. We have a moment to uncover this waste,

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Speaker 6: this fraud, this abuse, this misuse of our free and

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Speaker 6: fair elections here in the United States, and we've got

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Speaker 6: a moment that we need to grasp right now because

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Speaker 6: the midterms are coming up. I think this is really

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Speaker 6: important for people to understand. If we sit the mid

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Speaker 6: terms out and the Democrats take control of the House

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Speaker 6: of Representatives and of the Senate, they will make they

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Speaker 6: will do everything they can. We're going to start to

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Speaker 6: see impeachment proceedings again against President Trump. They will do

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Speaker 6: everything they can to make him a lame duck president.

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Speaker 6: We need to wake up, recognize what time it is

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Speaker 6: politically and engage. Engage, engage. We can't sit it out

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Speaker 6: or or just pretend that this is only up to

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Speaker 6: the president and the current administration. It's actually up to

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Speaker 6: the American people. And I'm hoping that they read the

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Speaker 6: political clock and understand what time it is.

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Speaker 1: Mobilizing people who typically do sit at midterm elections. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty tough thing to do, Heidie. They feel comfortable, We've

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Speaker 1: got President Trump, everything's going great.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to I don't need to.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and do that, but Heidi, it's serious. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's some real concern in Washington. Typically, what does happen

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Speaker 1: is that it goes the wrong way. Uh, in this situation.

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Speaker 1: So we've got to we've got to get after it.

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Speaker 2: How do you want to go to it further?

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Speaker 1: The peace President, that's what they're calling President Trump now

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Speaker 1: everybody's dubbing him, is that he operates with peace through strength.

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Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about tariffs and how he's

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Speaker 1: barely building cash reserves. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: if you go back to the midterm elections, people are

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Speaker 1: going to evaluate a lot of it based on the

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Speaker 1: economy where things are. President's trying to make some serious moves.

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Speaker 1: You know, no tax on tips, social security whatever isn't

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Speaker 1: going to be enough, and where's this thing going to

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Speaker 1: drive us too?

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Speaker 2: In the moment if you if you.

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Speaker 1: Step back and Hadi, there have been some really good moves.

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Speaker 1: You're beginning to see. While there's concern about is law,

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Speaker 1: look at what's happening in Iran this week. It looks

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Speaker 1: like the potentially is going to collapse over there. So

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Speaker 1: when you rip the foundations out from underneath this insanity,

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Speaker 1: it starts cracking.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know what President Trump is doing. I

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Speaker 6: think the net result around the world is he's emboldening

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Speaker 6: people to say, stand up for yourself. The United States

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Speaker 6: has not stood up for itself. The United State has

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Speaker 6: been typically historically a beacon of hope for free people,

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Speaker 6: for people to be free around the world, and under

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Speaker 6: Barack Obama and under Joe Biden, we have lost that legacy.

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Speaker 6: And Trump is beginning to restore it again, and it

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Speaker 6: is giving hope to people around the world. This is

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Speaker 6: why I think you see people being brave enough. I

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Speaker 6: watched the news yesterday. The Iranian regime is brutal, and

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Speaker 6: they are killing people there now, and those executions are

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Speaker 6: starting to ramp up. It takes courage to stand up

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Speaker 6: in the face of such tyranny. And President Trump is

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Speaker 6: I think, signaling to the world A. He means business

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Speaker 6: and b you guys can take your country back if

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Speaker 6: you'll stand for freedom and stand up against these dictators.

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Speaker 6: What a time to be alive. I mean, honestly, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: How do I know there's continuing rising fear People in

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Speaker 1: our bedroom communities really are concerned about that open border

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Speaker 1: mess and the resulting factor of having terrorists all through

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Speaker 1: our country and that some incident's going to happen and

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Speaker 1: scare the American people to death, etc. You know, And

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Speaker 1: then they're seeing this anti Semitism continue to pop its

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Speaker 1: head up all over the place. They're wondering if Islam's

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Speaker 1: taking over the country. Hearing people talk about that a lot.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing a Muslim brotherhoods show up everywhere. How do

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Speaker 1: you calm yourself in the midst of that? What helps

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Speaker 1: bring that kind of peace of God that surpasses all understanding.

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Speaker 6: I think we need to remember at the end of

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Speaker 6: the day that we're not responsible for how the world

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Speaker 6: events play out on the stage. That our responsibility is

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Speaker 6: to pray and to walk in obedience. God honors obedience,

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Speaker 6: and that starts in the small places of our hearts,

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Speaker 6: right starts with every one of us every day saying, Lord,

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Speaker 6: help me to be in your word so that I

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Speaker 6: can be guided by this lamp from the Holy Spirit

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Speaker 6: to my feet and a light to my path. That

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Speaker 6: is what helps us to stay grounded. Because we've read

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Speaker 6: to the end of the book. We know how this

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Speaker 6: thing plays out. We know that God's will and his

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Speaker 6: way will prevail in the end. And God's people have

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Speaker 6: historically been on the receiving end of suffering since the

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Speaker 6: time of Jesus, and God gives us what we need

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Speaker 6: when we need it, and he will give it to us.

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Speaker 6: I think what Corey ten Boom said probably sums it

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Speaker 6: up best. She said, when we worry, we are borrowing

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Speaker 6: strength from tomorrow. It just empties today of its strength,

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Speaker 6: and we need to not do that. And so God

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Speaker 6: doesn't call us to be a people of fear. I

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Speaker 6: love telling women that fear is a spirit. This is

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Speaker 6: why the apostle Paul told Timothy. God didn't give you

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Speaker 6: a spirit of fear, but of power, love and a

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Speaker 6: sound mind. Fear is not an emotion, it's a spirit,

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Speaker 6: and through the power of Jesus Christ, we can have

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Speaker 6: authority over it. That's where God's people need to rest.

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Speaker 1: HII Saint John always great to have you, Thank.

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Speaker 6: You for joining me, Thanks for having.

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Speaker 1: Me coming up next. And She is a clinical and

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Speaker 1: forensic psychologist, trauma and addictions expert, doctor Shawnee Anderson.

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Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 1: Johnny Snow is doctor Shawnee Anderson. She's a licensed clinical psychologist,

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Speaker 1: trauma and addiction specialist, noted speaker, co director of the

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Speaker 1: Ethics and Advocacy Division of the American Association of Christian Counselors.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Shawne. Welcome, Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me, Shauna.

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Speaker 1: I have looked forward to our conversation together. You know,

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Speaker 1: we've had a lot of conversations about how difficult life

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Speaker 1: has been over.

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Speaker 2: The past few years.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are overdosing on the brokenness. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of fear and trembling, if you will. Some

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Speaker 1: people are filled with anxiety. They're constantly worrying about everything

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Speaker 1: that's going to come their way, and it's easy to

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Speaker 1: get lost in it. Sean Ay, I guess I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you upfron is, what are you seeing and

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Speaker 1: just what are some of your thoughts about how we're

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Speaker 1: managing life.

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Speaker 7: I feel like when I come on your show, Tam,

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Speaker 7: that I am a bit of a broken record. I

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Speaker 7: think people are really really hurting and really struggling. There

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Speaker 7: doesn't seem to have been any kind of letup. I

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Speaker 7: think it almost dates back to even before COVID.

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Speaker 6: Things have just been really hard.

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Speaker 7: And really dark, and I know for a lot of

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Speaker 7: the patients I work with, the loss of Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 7: really threw things into a tailspin, and the end of

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Speaker 7: last year, people were just lost and confused and trying

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Speaker 7: to reach out to Jesus through the holidays. Every time

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Speaker 7: we turn around, it seems like, you know, there's another

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Speaker 7: traumatic event that happens, or there's another thing that is

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Speaker 7: dragging people down.

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Speaker 1: Some people are talking now about collective trauma like it's

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Speaker 1: impacting everybody and as a culture, we're spinning in the

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Speaker 1: midst of it.

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Speaker 2: Shawnee.

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Speaker 1: People are also noticing a lot of adverse impact with

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Speaker 1: our children, and as a matter of fact, they talk

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Speaker 1: about adverse childhood experiences acees, and it connects back.

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Speaker 2: Into the trauma world. Shawnee.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain a little bit about that and help

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Speaker 1: us maybe look at our children with a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a different eye.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 7: Back in nineteen ninety eight, there was a groundbreaking study

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Speaker 7: that looked at what we call aces adverse childhood experiences,

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Speaker 7: and it's really looking at all of the different experiences

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Speaker 7: that a child can experience before the age of eighteen,

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Speaker 7: and they look at every thing from different forms of

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Speaker 7: child abuse, physical abuse, sexual abuse, child neglect, child abandonment.

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Speaker 7: It looks like parents that have issues with substance use, divorce,

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Speaker 7: if there's domestic violence at home, if you have a

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Speaker 7: parent that's incarcerated. There's a number of these experiences. And

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Speaker 7: what research has shown, dating back to nineteen ninety eight

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Speaker 7: and continuing on to today, it's not good that actually

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Speaker 7: the number of individuals in our country who have experienced

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Speaker 7: at least one adverse childhood experience is approximately, depending on

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Speaker 7: the study, anywhere from sixty five to seventy percent of

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Speaker 7: the population. And if you're looking at those that have

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Speaker 7: experienced two to three or even more than that, it's

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Speaker 7: anywhere from maybe twenty five to twenty percent of the population.

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Speaker 7: And so a lot of young people in this country

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Speaker 7: are being harmed and are being hurt and sadly at

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Speaker 7: the hands of their parents. And what we are recognizing

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Speaker 7: is not only that that is happening and how horrendous

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Speaker 7: that is, but also we are really recognizing the long term,

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Speaker 7: both psychological and physical as well as spiritual, relational, social,

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Speaker 7: long term catastrophic effects that these early experiences can have

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Speaker 7: on everybody.

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Speaker 1: Seaney, I've always loved coaching kids, coach my son Zach,

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Speaker 1: my daughter Megan through sports, and had a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun through the years. Kids are amazingly resilient, but they

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Speaker 1: also do carry buckets of pain with them and it

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Speaker 1: does affect their trajectory. You can see a lot of

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Speaker 1: kids who get stunted if you will in life, or

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Speaker 1: they get lost, angry, and bitter. It doesn't take much

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Speaker 1: to go to a playground and see the kids who

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Speaker 1: don't have a dad. For example. You can see a

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Speaker 1: kid when you look in their eyes who've been screamed

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Speaker 1: at their whole life. It just affects them.

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Speaker 2: Shahee.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the signs and symptoms I guess

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Speaker 1: that we should be thinking about concerned about, especially if

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Speaker 1: we're worried about our own children or maybe some kids

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Speaker 1: that we minister to.

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Speaker 7: Well. I think that there are a number of things.

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Speaker 7: Because children respond very individually to adverse effects. There are

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Speaker 7: some children that actually just biologically tend to be very resilient,

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Speaker 7: and so some of this stuff can just kind of

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Speaker 7: roll off their back, especially if there's maybe only one

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Speaker 7: ace or two aces. But there are some that may

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Speaker 7: be temperamentally or genetically biologically that have certain sensitivities that

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Speaker 7: this type of stuff really will harm their developmental trajectory

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Speaker 7: throughout their entire life. So I think certain things to

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Speaker 7: look for are children that are beginning to act out behaviorally,

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Speaker 7: children that are angry, children that are anxious, children that

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Speaker 7: maybe are engaging in dramatic behaviors that sometimes we as

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Speaker 7: parents get so frustrated with, but we're not recognizing that

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Speaker 7: there's a reason underneath why children are acting the way

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Speaker 7: that they are. And so a lot of children, especially

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Speaker 7: in this day and age of social media and isolation,

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Speaker 7: so many children are hurting and they don't have any connection.

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Speaker 7: So I think for a lot of children and particularly

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Speaker 7: teens that self isolation, struggles with friends, and unwillingness to

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Speaker 7: connect with friends. And I think the most dangerous are

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Speaker 7: those that even at a very young age, are experimenting

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Speaker 7: with drugs and alcohol and pornoga fee and that are

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Speaker 7: struggling with suicidality and self harm. It's really not a

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Speaker 7: safe time to be a child or an adolescent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that thrill seeking behavior, but also that medicating trying

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Speaker 1: to hide or mask the pain of what I'm living

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Speaker 1: in too. You know, the social media piece really does

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Speaker 1: concern me. Kids are just lost on their phones and

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Speaker 1: this algorithm stuff where they target kids. If kids are

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Speaker 1: already living in some darkness, they're going to start getting

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Speaker 1: fed that stuff constantly, and it only takes them deeper

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Speaker 1: and deeper, and a lot of moms and dads aren't

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Speaker 1: even aware of what they're really getting lost in. It's insanity, is.

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Speaker 2: What it really is all about. Shane.

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Speaker 1: We hear a lot about you know, there's this concern

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Speaker 1: about we're coddling our kids and allowing them to fester

746
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Speaker 1: and that stuff versus this move to quote create mentally tougher,

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Speaker 1: mentally strong children. Help us balance this out, because yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want my kids to be I want my kids

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Speaker 1: to be able to face adversity and press through it.

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Speaker 2: I want them to be tough.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: I understand where they're at, what they've gone through, so

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Speaker 1: that stuff doesn't quote that snakehead doesn't pop up and

754
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Speaker 1: just devoured them at the wrong time where they seek

755
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Speaker 1: love or something in the arms of stupid stuff and

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Speaker 1: it's so easy to go there.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think we have gone from two extremes. I

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Speaker 7: think that the pendulum kind of started with not even

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Speaker 7: acknowledging that child abuse even existed, and it really wasn't

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Speaker 7: until kind of the nineteen eighties and nineties that we

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Speaker 7: really began to increase awareness that these adverse early childhood

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Speaker 7: experiences are causing consequences, that actually treating a child poorly

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Speaker 7: can have long term consequences. So I think what happened

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Speaker 7: is we've kind of almost gone to the other extreme,

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Speaker 7: that we now are almost indulging and overparenting and trying

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Speaker 7: to to not do what our parents did to us.

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Speaker 7: And what's happened is that we end up with a

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Speaker 7: lot of over indulgence and children that don't know how

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Speaker 7: to do hard things. I do think we are moving

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Speaker 7: a little bit back to the middle, which I think

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Speaker 7: is a very important place to be, where it's about

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Speaker 7: recognizing that children need attunement, they need protection, but they

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Speaker 7: also need challenge, and that it is the responsibility of

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Speaker 7: parents and other individuals that are in a child's life

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Speaker 7: to set up different layers of scaffolding to help that

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Speaker 7: child do difficult things so that they can grow. Because

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Speaker 7: I think what happens is that we've given so much

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Speaker 7: to our kids. I know when I was raising my son,

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Speaker 7: you know, every kid on the baseball or football team

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Speaker 7: got a trophy, and there wasn't really the incentive to

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Speaker 7: really try and push yourself. And I think, what's happening now.

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Speaker 7: I watch my son and my daughter in law raise

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Speaker 7: my grandchildren.

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Speaker 6: And they're they're always.

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Speaker 7: Telling my granddaughter you can do hard things, and they

786
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Speaker 7: don't jump in to rescue her, which I think is

787
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Speaker 7: so important because I still am from the old school

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Speaker 7: of oh no, I don't want her to feel bad,

789
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Speaker 7: But it's important if you're going to actually develop emotion regulation.

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Speaker 7: It's a muscle. You need to learn how to tolerate

791
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Speaker 7: difficult emotions in order to regulate them. And so I

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Speaker 7: think parents are struggling with this balance between loving and

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Speaker 7: supporting but also pushing and having expectations.

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Speaker 1: Probably like to close this way, Shane, at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, in our lives versus mom and dad,

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Speaker 1: we can't give well what we don't do well. And

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Speaker 1: do your work mom, dad, don't don't let kids carry

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Speaker 1: that stuff, and don't let the rain get your kids

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Speaker 1: wet if you will makes sense.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think these times are so tough right now

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Speaker 7: that I think parents need to recognize that their children

802
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 7: are watching them, and they're watching how they are managing things,

803
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Speaker 7: and if they're stuck on the phone, and if they're stuck,

804
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 7: you know, binge watching Netflix and they're not a tuning

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Speaker 7: to family. That's what the children are going to learn.

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Speaker 7: Family needs quality together.

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Speaker 1: Time, Yeah, playtime. Always great to see you, doctor Shawn A. Edison,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 7: Thank you Tim.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: In closing, these are unprecedented times. These are difficult times.

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Speaker 1: But I believe God's in control and that he's at work.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're pressing close to his heart. Know that

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Speaker 1: God loves you, that he wants to be in your life.

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Speaker 1: Our hope, our strength comes from him. By the way,

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Speaker 1: here's an encouraging verse again from the Bible to hold

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Speaker 1: on to this week. It's a reminder of how much

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Speaker 1: we need each other and we can encourage one another

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Speaker 1: verse Thessalonians five, verse eleven. Therefore, encourage one another and

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Speaker 1: build each other up just as in fact.

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Speaker 2: You are doing.

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Speaker 1: We call that people fuel. I hope you know also

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Speaker 1: that you can look to God for wisdom and direction

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Speaker 1: in your everyday life. But let me also say I've

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Speaker 1: learned as a professional counselor that hey's normal to have concern,

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Speaker 1: maybe some fear of worry, especially when life's not the

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Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be. But also know if you

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Speaker 1: aren't careful, it can begin to consume you, control you.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to lose perspective. Some feel like they've lost hope.

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Speaker 1: It can get so bad for some they may feel

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Speaker 1: like life would be better off without them. I say

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Speaker 1: this every week. You don't have to live like that.

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Speaker 1: Simply taking a step reaching out for help it's often

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Speaker 1: the gateway to a new day or a new you.

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Speaker 1: And if you or someone you love is struggling, do

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Speaker 1: with some of those. You can find out more information

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Speaker 1: christiancareconnect dot com. Christiancareconnect dot com. If you don't have

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Speaker 1: can do that right now by asking God to come

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Speaker 1: indo your life. Simply praying a prayer from your heart

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Speaker 1: to God's heart something like this. You can pray it

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Speaker 1: after me, Lord Jesus, I need you. I know I'm

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Speaker 1: a sinner. I believe you died for my sins, and

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Speaker 1: I want to turn from them and invite you to

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Speaker 1: Thank you for loving me, forgiving your son for me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the gift of grace, forgiveness, the gift

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Speaker 1: of eternal life. I pray all this in Jesus's name.

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Speaker 5: Amen.

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Speaker 1: You know what I believe. I believe that if you

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Speaker 1: If you prayed that prayer from your heart to God's heart.

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Speaker 1: You know what the Bible says John three point sixteen.

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Speaker 1: For God's so loved the world that He gave his

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Speaker 1: only begotten son to whoever believes in him should not perish,

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Speaker 1: but have everlasting life. And Romans Chapter ten, verse nine.

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Speaker 1: It says this that if you confess with your mouth

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Speaker 1: God raised him from the dead. The Bible says this,

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Speaker 1: you will be saved. The best thing you can do

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Speaker 1: if you pray their prayers, go and serve God for

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Speaker 2: Hey, before we go.

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Speaker 1: Maybe God's gifted you with a heart to help other people.

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Speaker 2: Hope you'll consider.

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Speaker 1: Being a part of our Mental Health Coach first Responder

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Speaker 1: doctor Tim Clinton. As always, thanks for watching. To see

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Speaker 1: you next week right here on Sunday the Rope Forward

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Speaker 3: O My God.