1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Hey, there're folks, it is Monday, February ninth. He made 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: the Olympic team. He hasn't competed yet in Italy, but 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: already the President's called him a loser. And with that, 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. How could 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: you be a losers? You made the Olympic team rhades, 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: that means you're a winner. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: No, he's automatically he's a loser. He hasn't even competed yet. 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: And President Trump, or at least those who support him, 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: want to send him home. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Won't come on, come on back, get him out of Italy. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Take that jacket off, with that polo logo, that Ralph 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Lauren outfit. Come bring your ass home. Who are we 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: talking about? A guy you never heard of? 14 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: Hunter Hess hunter Hess, who is now probably going to 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: become a household name and certainly appointment television when he 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: finally does compete next week in the Olympics. He's not 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: even scheduled to compete until February nineteenth, and the President's 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: already talking crap about him. 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Okay, and there we knew this was coming. It's been 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: a part of it. Yes, you are sending people somewhere 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: else to represent the country in the Olympics. All of 22 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: them are getting asked the same question, and they have 23 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: for a while, robes, what do you think about representing 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: your country at a time with what's going on there? 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: Some have been asked directly about the administration. And I 26 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: think for the most part, haven't we heard the Olympians 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: handle this pretty well, including Hunter Hes. 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: Yes. 29 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: I think it's a delicate dance because look, in America, 30 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: we're allowed to express our feelings, whether they're political beliefs, 31 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: or religious beliefs, or just beliefs about any old thing. 32 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 3: We're free to express ourselves. 33 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: And yet when you are representing the country, especially on 34 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: an international stage, one of the highest ones you could 35 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: possibly do so at the Olympics, Yeah, you're gonna be careful. 36 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: You're gonna make sure you're going to try not to offend. 37 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: Yet you're still gonna want to be honest and be 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: true to your beliefs. And I felt like Hunter Hess 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: and a lot of the other athletes have done a 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: very good job at staying true to what they feel 41 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: and what they think and trying not to be divisive 42 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: or offensive. 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: Well, Hunter Hes has stepped in it now, Hunter has 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: If you don't know. He is a freestyle skier. Now 45 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: he gets the you know, help me hear ropes. It's 46 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: the half pipe thing, right, but he goes out there 47 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: and does all kinds of tricks with regular skis. Now 48 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: a snowboard situation. 49 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: I got that right, yes, and so I actually had 50 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: to look it up because I was making sure that 51 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: he was in fact a skier and not a snowboarder 52 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: because of the tricks that they do and where they 53 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: do it. It's typically where you would expect to see 54 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: a snowboarder or a even a skateboarder. But this is 55 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: what he does on skis, which is even harder. 56 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: And he is one of the best in the world 57 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: at it. He has been for a number of years 58 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: and he has made the US Olympic team. He's twenty 59 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: seven years old. Kid is from Oregon, I say, kid, 60 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: he's a grown ass man, of course, but he is 61 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: from Oregon now. He was asked a question over the weekend. 62 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: The entire team actually was up there at the podium 63 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: at this dais and they were asking getting asked questions 64 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: by reporters. One of the questions happened to be about 65 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: what's going on in the United States in particular. Of course, 66 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: all that's happening with ice, Minneapolis, blah blah blah, you 67 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: get it. All of them answered the question. He was 68 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: the one whose answer got the most attention, and again, Robes, 69 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: he I think has practiced this answer, probably knew the 70 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: question was coming, and I thought found a good way 71 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: to balance it. But the President didn't think so. But 72 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: we'll first tell you what he said. 73 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: Yes, here is what Hunter has said when asked about 74 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: representing our country during these divisive times. It brings up 75 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: mixed emotions. To represent the US right now, I think 76 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: it's a little hard. There is obviously a lot going 77 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: on that I'm not the biggest fan of, and I 78 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: think a lot of people aren't. I think for me, 79 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: it's more I'm representing my friends and family back home, 80 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: the people that represented it before me, all the things 81 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: that I believe are good about the US. I just 82 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: think it aligns with my moral values. I feel like 83 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: I'm representing it. Just because I'm wearing the flag doesn't 84 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: mean I represent everything that's going. 85 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: On in the US. 86 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just kind of want to do it 87 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: for my friends and my family and the people that 88 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: supported me getting here. 89 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: Fine, Maga went after Oh boy, he stepped in at Robes. 90 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: I guess the problem is, if you're representing the United States, 91 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be critical in any way of the United 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: States on this world stage. Now was he critical? I 93 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: mean he essentially said I don't believe in every single 94 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: thing coming out of the United States. I don't either. 95 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: I mean, who can't raise their hands say that, don't 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: take some issue. Now I'll ask you, Robes, should you 97 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: still keep that to yourself when you're somewhere else representing 98 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: the United States on an international stage. 99 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: Yes? 100 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: And no. When I say that, because I think he 101 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: would have kept it to himself. I don't think he 102 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: was announcing this. I don't think he was putting it 103 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: on social media. But when directly asked about it, I 104 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: think you have a right and a duty to yourself 105 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: to be honest but kind, and I feel like that 106 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: is what he did. He didn't call out President Trump, 107 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: he didn't call out the immigration tactics. He didn't get 108 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: specific or say that anybody had on anything wrong. 109 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: You have a right. You have a right, ro and 110 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: if it speaks to you and speaks to your heart, 111 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: knock yourself out. But what would you have counseled a 112 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: an athlete that you were coaching, like this question is coming. 113 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: Would you say, hey, speak to your heart or would 114 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: you say hey, keep it down. Yeah that's unfortunate, but 115 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: yeah still truly what would you act? 116 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: What would I think any any PR person or any 117 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: coach would tell their athletes. Look, this is about unity, 118 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: this is about representing the United States. Please try to 119 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: keep your comments as positive as you can, as you know, 120 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: follow your heart, but please try to remember it's always 121 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: better to stay positive in these moments that you don't 122 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: want to be a distraction to the team. 123 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: You don't want to be a distraction to the Olympics. 124 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: But it is tough, babe, because I think about this 125 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: situation where as Americans, we're afraid to speak our mind 126 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: because we'll get called out by the president. 127 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: Oh the irony. 128 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: And therefore you are labeled un American or unpatriotic if 129 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: you disagree with how a specific administration is running our country. 130 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: That is the height of being an American. I'm so confused. 131 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: How that's Unamerican? 132 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: Yes? Right? Is that's the part you hit? The part 133 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: that's the problem here is that if any coach, if 134 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: any representative of the United States Olympic team is telling 135 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: the athletes, hey, just don't say anything. It's not worth it. 136 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: That is not speaking out because you're now actually fearful. 137 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: It's out of fear. 138 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: You have scared your citizens against speaking their mind in 139 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: the First Amendment. You have scared them into not exercising 140 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: or right because what you might get called out by 141 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: the president or you might have everybody from one side 142 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: of a political aisle saying you don't deserve to be 143 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: an Olympian, we don't want you representing us, and that 144 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: you should come home. 145 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: Oh, it's so unfair. And you know what Hunter has. 146 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: I don't know his full story. We looked into it 147 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: a little bit, but my god, I know he's been 148 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: with the US teams. This is his first Olympics, but 149 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: for ten years. This is a kid, you said, a kid. 150 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: He's twenty seven years old, but since he was seventeen, 151 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: he has followed his passion. This has been his sport. 152 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: He has trained and worked his whole life for this moment. 153 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: And to have the president now say ugly things about 154 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: you because you just said that you were trying to 155 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: focus focus on what you do love about the country. 156 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: And that's where your head is as you represent the 157 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: United States. That's not an Unamerican thing to say. 158 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: And he said it. And this was the president's response 159 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: on social media. Quote. US Olympic skier Hunter Hess a 160 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: real loser, says he doesn't represent his country in the 161 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: current Winter Olympics. If that's the case, he shouldn't have 162 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: tried out for the team. And it's too bad he's 163 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: on it very hard to root for someone like this 164 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: make America great again? He doesn't. I mean what my 165 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: question still robes Are you not a true patriot? Are 166 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: you not an American? If you take issue with anything 167 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: happening in America? 168 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: That means you are an American? That you have that 169 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: you should be able to sleep soundly and to not 170 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: have terrible things written about you if you express your opinion. 171 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying, is this the new Is that the new standard? 172 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Are you truly? In some people's minds, are you not 173 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: an American if you take issue with anything happening in America? 174 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: If you can criticize your country, are you no longer 175 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: a true American? Some might think maybe you shouldn't say 176 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: it out loud, Maybe you shouldn't say it on foreign soil. 177 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: I mean, how many times that's some scary stuff. That's 178 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: a slippery slope, sweetheart. 179 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: We are falling off that cliff. 180 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 2: We have members of the media afraid to report anything. 181 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: You've got, You've got pieces that need to air being 182 00:08:54,080 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: sidelined and reworked so that the administration and gets to 183 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: say what they want to say in them. 184 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm telling you these are frightening. Individually. 185 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: You could look at it and say it's not that 186 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: big of a deal, or we just get immune to it, 187 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: or we just, sadly, I think, just get desensitized to this. 188 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 3: But this is outrageous. 189 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: This is an American foundation that you can say what 190 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: you want about who the president is, about what our 191 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: lawmakers are doing, and you can do it without impunity, 192 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: that you don't have a fear of repercussions. Because that 193 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: is what we have in America is freedom to express. 194 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: If you are scared to express yourself for fear that 195 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: your government or your president might come after you, that 196 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: is as un American as it gets. Thank you, don't 197 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: we watch that stuff in other countries and go, oh 198 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: my god, we're better than that. We're better than them. 199 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: Look at us sweetheart, this is where we are. It's 200 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: happened over time, but where we are now is you 201 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: are silencing people. Not because you're throwing them in jail 202 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: or punishing them, but you have now set enough examples 203 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: that they're scared to speak. 204 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: You're trying to cancel them. 205 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: This is yeah, this is a tough one. The other 206 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: thing here, please help me understand what this representative from 207 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Wisconsin was trying to say. There's a Republican congressman by 208 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: the name of Derek Van Orden. He put this out. 209 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm sweetheart, you gotta help me cause you read I'm 210 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: not sure the Arlington thing. Okay, read that one. I 211 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: can't make out what he's trying to say here. But 212 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: here's another Republican who was critical of Hunter Hes. 213 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: Yes, this is Congressman Derek van Orden from Wisconsin. He 214 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: put this on x IF Team USA. Skier Hunter Hess 215 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: wants to rep just his friends and family and not 216 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: all of America. Then his friends and family should be 217 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: footing the bill for his all expense paid boondoggle to Italy, 218 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: not the American taxpayer. 219 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: That is so scary, he goes on. 220 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: These heroes did not have mixed feelings about risking their 221 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: lives for his un entitled, ungrateful. 222 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: Ass and that line was accompanied by a picture of 223 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Arlington Cemetery. 224 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: Hess needs to be stripped of that uniform and sent 225 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 2: back home via Arlington National Cemetery. 226 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 227 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: He's saying he needs to die he was saying. He's 228 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: saying I look. 229 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: At that as saying he needs Okay, either he needs 230 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: to go back to Arlington National Cemetery and read the 231 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: tombstones of the heroes who died for his freedom. But 232 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: with the way he wrote it, babe, it sounds like 233 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: he needs to come home in a body bag and 234 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: be buried at Arlington National Ceminary. 235 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: That can't be what he meant. 236 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: That is exactly how it reads to me now. 237 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: The only other interpretation would be that he needs to 238 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: go go and educate himself by reading the I guess 239 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: the works and the and the lives of the fallen 240 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: soldiers who gave him his freedom. That has to be 241 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: I hope it was that, but it could be interpreted 242 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 2: the other way interpreted. 243 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: Yes, he wrote it in a clunky wage, I'm sure, 244 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: but I wanted somebody else to get eyes on that. 245 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't make sense of what he's saying. 246 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: But still that is disgusting. Though still I'm reading this 247 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: and I'm feeling I'm trure. Look, I think we try 248 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: to look at this with objectivity, give people. You're so 249 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: good at giving people some grace and some understanding about 250 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: why they may be coming at it or looking at 251 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: it from this direction or this perspective. But to say 252 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,479 Speaker 2: such hurtful, hateful things because somebody just expressed their dislike 253 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: for how our government is being run right now by 254 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 2: an administration. To go to that extreme and just condemn 255 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: an athlete for not thinking the way you think, for 256 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: not agreeing to the same policies that you think are right. 257 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: That is that is so scary. 258 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: That is such awful, just rhetoric that puts people in 259 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: such a like I don't even have a dog in 260 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: this fight, right, but I feel upset and angry for 261 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: this olympian. He may not care at all, He may 262 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: think this is hilarious, he may think these people are crazy. 263 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: But I feel upset because of what it represents that 264 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: now we're just gonna go after and try to publicly 265 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: admonish and cancel people who don't think like we think 266 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: or believe what we believe, and if you don't like 267 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: what's happening in our government, you aren't an American. 268 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: I didn't think what the hunter said was that I 269 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: have mixed emotions. That is that not a reasonable measured 270 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: response to a question what's going on in the US. 271 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: It's a little hard And if you listen to him, 272 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: he didn't come off angry. He I mean, he found 273 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: like a very mild mannered guy and thoughtful guy as 274 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: he was saying this stuff stuff going on. I'm not 275 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: the biggest fan of aren't we all in that boat? 276 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: That it's not my cup of tea? It sounds very 277 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 3: what's hard deferential? Actually, I would say he could have 278 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: said so much. 279 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure he thought and feels things that are much 280 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: much more specific and serious than that. He was tempering 281 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: his comments, for sure. 282 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: But Babe, I just think that's oh okay, I keep 283 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: breaking down. We all. I am so proud, obviously to 284 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: be an American. I am not proud of things I've 285 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: seen on the streets in Minneapolis. I'm not proud. I'm 286 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: not going we're on an international trip now. I'm not 287 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: walking down the streets saying hell, yeah, you see what 288 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: we did. You're not proud of some of these moments. 289 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: You could be critical of your country and say, ah, 290 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: we got some work to do. Ooh, we got to 291 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: do better there. Oooh we blew that one. Oh next time, 292 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: we do it all the time. It's okay for it 293 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: to be both. President Trump goes all over the world 294 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: and does he breaks rule number one when it comes 295 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: to presidents visiting other lands. He starts criticizing other American presidents. 296 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to do that. So I don't know 297 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: what the thing to do is here, Robes, I am 298 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: rooting for hunter Hess, not just in competition, but Robes. 299 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: He represents so much of how many of us feel. 300 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: I am here with this flag on my chest. I 301 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: love it, but man, I'm conflicted about some of the 302 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: shit going on. That was the point of what he 303 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: was saying, was it not? Did he go beyond that? 304 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: No? 305 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think he did. 306 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: Everything he said sounded very patriotic to me. 307 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: Well, folks, that wasn't it. We did hear from somebody else, 308 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: Jake Paul. You're gonna love what he said. Jake Paul, 309 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: of course, the influencer who turned boxer. He had something 310 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: to say, and he said it right before he took 311 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: a seat next to JD. Vans. We'll explain that also 312 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: when we come back. We will ask the question, folks, 313 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: what does it mean to be a true American? We 314 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: continue here on Wow. I forgot the name of our podcast. 315 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: We're saying. I was about to call it TJ and Amy. 316 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: I say, no, that's not right. 317 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: You can say TJ and Amy. We can mix it 318 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: up for a little bit. 319 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: Now it mixed up, it's still Amy TJ will forever 320 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: be Amy and TJ. But Jake Paul had something to say. 321 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: He was visiting over and he watched was the hockey match? 322 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: He went to a hockey match with JD Vans. 323 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: I believe that's correct. 324 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, it's something. But he sent out a 325 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: This was on Twitter. I do believe his message as well, 326 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: having to do with what happened with Hunter Hess. I 327 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: thought this was pretty strong. 328 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: Yes, he said, from all true Americans, if you don't 329 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: want to represent this country, go live somewhere else. 330 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: You do, I want to represent the best of our country. 331 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: I want to represent that you do. 332 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: That is so unfair, though, because anyone who travels internationally 333 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: and given what's been going on in our country, especially 334 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: for the past year. We are looked at in a 335 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: certain way. People have mixed feelings, and that's a nice 336 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: way of putting it about Americans right now. 337 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: I think he was. 338 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: Being so honest and that's actually refreshing instead of touting, 339 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: you know, everything's great, proud to be an American. I 340 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: think you can be proud to be American and not 341 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: be proud about all of what we've done or that 342 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: we are currently doing it. 343 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: Always remember it's the best thing about this country, right 344 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: it's I don't like to see the American flag burn. 345 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: People have done it in protest, but that's the beautiful 346 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: thing about the country is that that is legal to do. Like, 347 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: it's so American that you have the right to burn 348 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: that flag and pro test. That is beautiful part of 349 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: this country. And Jake Paul getting involved in all true Americans. 350 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: That's the true American. 351 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: Maybe a true American. 352 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, two things. I'll ask what it is to you, 353 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: But also I mean, what is it he's talking about? 354 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: Yes, and that's to me, Yes, there's a big distinction 355 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: because a true American that's a silly term. What has 356 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 2: that even Like, let's just like, break it down. We 357 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: know what he's saying. He's saying, you have to be proud, 358 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: say nothing bad about America. 359 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 3: You have to. 360 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: Not complain about America, not complain about its leaders, not 361 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: complain about its policies in order to be a true American. 362 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: And I just take total issue with that. 363 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: Being a true American means you get to do all 364 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: of the above with out fear of any sort of repercussion. 365 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what true American is. This is the 366 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: thing we're I don't know why we're fighting over it. 367 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: It's all We're all Americans. It's all true. Yeah, even 368 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: the ones that don't like the country very much, it 369 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: still is true American. It's oh okay, Jake Paul. This 370 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: is not a criticism of him, but you will find 371 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: this hilarious because I don't think you would know this 372 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: because you're not steeped in what's going on with him 373 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: in sports. What did we just see at the Super 374 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: Bowl halftime show? A guy that a lot of people 375 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: considered something foreign because he's speaking Spanish, right, he is 376 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: an American. Jake Paul just said, I for all you 377 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: true Americans you don't like it, leave the country. Jake 378 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Paul lives full time in Puerto Rico. Told you like that? 379 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: Oh, that's just so amazing. 380 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: He trains, he does everything from Puerto Rico. Many people what. 381 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: Was it called the All American halftime Show? 382 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: What was it called at the event? And what do 383 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: you call it? That comedian a floating pile of trash 384 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: in the Is that what he called? 385 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: Yes? 386 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: Okay, that side has said so many things about Puerto Rico, 387 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of them don't realize he's an American, 388 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: that Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans are Americans. I just 389 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: found it nothing but funny. This isn't a criticism of 390 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: criticism of Jake Paul, but he actually resides in the 391 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: very place that folks don't consider American. 392 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: And he's telling us what a true American would do, 393 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: should do not look. 394 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: I think his statement is fine given where he lives. 395 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: It's fine, you live in America. I'm okay with that. 396 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: It's just funny, given all that's going on that he 397 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: uses that particular reference when he's living full time in 398 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: a place that many people who feel the way he 399 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: does don't consider American. 400 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: I gues I thank you for pointing that out because 401 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: I did not know that fun fact, and that was 402 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: a fun fact. 403 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: I would That's how I would put that. But I 404 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: also just think it's so. 405 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: I know people are afraid to speak out, but it's 406 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: you get to a point where you read what Hunter 407 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: has said. He didn't call anybody a name, he didn't 408 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: call anybody out specifically, and frankly, he didn't even say 409 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: anything negative. But President Trump, in complaining about him, can 410 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 2: call him a loser. That is as offensive as it gets. 411 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: How Come I'm curious. President Trump gets to say whatever 412 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: he wants about anybody, and it can be cruel, it 413 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: could be unfair, it could be unfounded, and that's American. 414 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: But if you even slightly act as if you have 415 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: any sort of issue with any policy that's on American, 416 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: I don't my head spinning. 417 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see Hunter back home here, surely see if 418 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: he gets to compete. February nineteenth. 419 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: February nineteenth, So it's a. 420 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: Little way is to wait. But now the anticipation, and 421 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: you know he's going to be followed and now pressure, 422 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: and they are all on social media. This is a 423 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: big time for them. So he sees the stuff coming 424 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: at him, and I hope it doesn't mess with him. 425 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 3: I hope it doesn't either. I hope maybe it empowers him. 426 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: I hope maybe it gives him a little extra juice, 427 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: a little extra adrenaline that'll carry him as far as 428 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: he wants to go. What if he wins a gold 429 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: it would be amazing, But I'm rooting for Hunter Hass 430 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: for gold. 431 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: Nothing and folk, Look, everybody has a different opinion about 432 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: Americans and what it means to be an American, and 433 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: that's fine, But do you have to call a kid 434 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: a loser if he does it, if he sees it 435 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: a little differently. We all have different American experiences. 436 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 2: And he didn't say that he didn't represent America or 437 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: that he didn't want to represent the United States. That 438 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: was not even a correct Like, I don't know, it 439 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: wasn't even what he said. He just said it's a 440 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: little hard and he's focusing on who he does represent. 441 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that he didn't want to be wearing the 442 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: United States flag or the United States uniform. 443 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: He never said that. 444 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: If nothing else, folks, to give us an opportunity to 445 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: have to talk about it, to have that conversation and 446 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: to really question, what does it mean to be a 447 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: true American, and aren't we all so with that? Folks, 448 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: we always appreciate you spending some time here with us. 449 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: I'm TJ. Holmes On behalf of my dear Amy Robock. 450 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: We will be talking to y'all very soon.