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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion.

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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this morning combat. It's not quite the first of

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Speaker 1: the month, but you can cast your checks and get up. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: time to wake up, Wake up, wake up. It's MK

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. We start the campaign here. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 1: I am merely though, one half of your hosting duo.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the snowy part of the capitol here in

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Speaker 1: Liso Statos, Anitos of Washington, DC. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's snowing where my Viceroy of Connecticut friend Brian Campbell is,

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Speaker 1: but nevertheless happy to have me here BC. Is it

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Speaker 1: snowing where you are?

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Speaker 2: No, But it was, you know, fifty nine degrees yesterday

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Speaker 2: and like you know, feels like negative today. So it's

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Speaker 2: a typical depressing Conneticus a winter buckle up. But Luke,

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Speaker 2: as you indicated off the top, it's a new year,

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Speaker 2: no limits. Let's bring it. Okay, let's absolutely bring it.

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Speaker 2: I want you to take all your past hurts, Luke,

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Speaker 2: which are many. Okay, Okay, and leave them behind. It's

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Speaker 2: a clean slate, brother, okay, old laying zone, whatever the

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Speaker 2: hell that means.

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Speaker 1: Dude, how was your How was your New Year's Did

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Speaker 1: you do anything special or you washed? Like me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I was washed. I was in bed by eleven

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Speaker 2: watching Scarface and I fell asleep with the TV on.

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Speaker 2: This gets great. You know it's great theater.

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Speaker 1: You wait, you didn't even make it to midnight? No, no, Luke,

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Speaker 1: you know wow. I at least made it to midnight.

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Speaker 1: I at least great.

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Speaker 2: Great you saw balls drop. I've been watching balls drop

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Speaker 2: in my spare time for a long time. Luke. All right,

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Speaker 2: it's not that I bet you.

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Speaker 1: I bet I bet you have motherfucker not your own too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, I'm happy to have you here. I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to get the show started. Nothing like a dick

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Speaker 1: joke in twenty twenty two. To get things kicked off.

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Speaker 1: We have a bit of a different show planned for

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Speaker 1: you guys today. Not a whole lot of MMA and

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Speaker 1: want to do an award show, or at least an

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Speaker 1: informal one. But you know, I don't like doing them

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Speaker 2: So I thought you didn't want to do it at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm interrupting you to say I was refreshingly surprised to

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Speaker 2: get a text from you. After, you know, sold our

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Speaker 2: producer Mikey for weeks on his idea of an award show.

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Speaker 2: You're like, I won't do that shit, that's what everybody

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Speaker 2: else does. I won't be different, yo, And then yesterday

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Speaker 2: you're like, hey, you want to do an award show.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, why not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? But I mean we're not gonna you know, there's

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Speaker 1: no pomp and circumstance. And Mikey was right, just a

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Speaker 1: little it's it's Mikey's idea was generally right. We'll give

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Speaker 1: and then we'll do dms from donks and have you

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Speaker 1: seen this shit? So if you forget it on YouTube, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Be awarding the Donk of the Year from twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: In my final interruption of the show, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Very much, which which interruption was the best? All of them?

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Speaker 1: Really is what I think. They're like all my children

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Speaker 1: in any event. Beyond that, BC, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: old merch we always had at Morningcombat Dot Store.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I haven't heard from the merch master

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Speaker 2: Dot Store. Yeah you know you can outfit you're a boy, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Did I buy them MK Mercy? Yes? Yes, No. I

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Speaker 2: Oh. I bought my dad the underwear, the T shirts.

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Speaker 2: law even got a shirt this year, Luke, I've been

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Speaker 1: We have an email that's where you can send your

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Speaker 1: Coombat at gmail dot com. That'll be the place for that.

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, b see, I think that's it for

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Speaker 1: the moment. You're gonna be on television on Friday, correct,

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Speaker 2: Get for sure. I am my debut, Luke, talk about

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Speaker 2: New Year Wow, my debut Friday night. I believe it's

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Speaker 2: Your boy BC slide in, the great Steve still going

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Speaker 1: It should be a lot of fun, all right, BC. Well,

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Speaker 1: I would like for you to go first. Who is

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Speaker 2: Well, are you going sport by sport? What the hell

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Speaker 2: All right, Look, I think both sports have very obvious

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Speaker 2: both have it the same. In boxing, Luke, it's Canelo

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Speaker 2: He won all of those by stoppage, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Who would be second and third in boxing? Actually think

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Speaker 1: Right, So for the MMA side of things, I think

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Speaker 1: we both agree I'll go Kamaru Usman on this one.

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Speaker 1: So our fighters of the year woul be Kamaro, Usbin

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Speaker 2: That's very difficult to do about why we don't slide

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Speaker 1: So she retained her WBC and WBO featherweight titles to beget.

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Speaker 2: win of her career to be really fair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so she got. She starts off the year in

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Speaker 1: March with that win. Then she followed up with the

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Speaker 1: two on the Jake Paul cards over Yamo Leth Mercado

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Speaker 1: and then Miriam Gutierrez, both of those being by way

432
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Speaker 1: of you know, overwhelming decision where you wondered how the

433
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Speaker 1: opponent even made it to the end, including Gutierras in

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Speaker 1: the last one where her face was deformed. I'm going

435
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Speaker 1: to give it to a man to Serrano. B see

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Speaker 1: I think your point about Katy Taylor it's all well,

437
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Speaker 1: I hard to really say if any part of that

438
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Speaker 1: is wrong. I just feel like if we didn't put

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Speaker 1: Serrano on this list, I'd be I'd be undercounting what

440
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Speaker 1: she did, which was this was This was arguably in

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Speaker 1: terms of to your point, not just the win of Bermudez,

442
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Speaker 1: but in terms of standing out this was maybe the

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Speaker 1: most fruitful year of Serrano's career. Jake Paul did her

444
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Speaker 1: a real good solid, putting her in the spotlight that

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Speaker 1: she did. She did everything she needed to do in

446
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Speaker 1: terms of keeping the win streak and the auditions alive

447
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Speaker 1: to get this Katie Taylor fight down the line. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's one A, one B whatever you want to go

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Speaker 1: with Katie Taylor and otherwise. But like you know, in

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Speaker 1: that Bermudaz fight, you tell me, was bermuda is ever close?

451
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Speaker 1: Because I can tell you in the Mercado and Gutierrez

452
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Speaker 1: fights they were never even in it, or maybe Gutierras

453
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Speaker 1: a little bit, but not really. And I'm curious about

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Speaker 1: the Bermudaz fight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bermudas had moments and she's a good puncher. She's

456
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Speaker 2: a smaller fighter though, who was moving up in wait

457
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Speaker 2: and eventually just got overwhelmed. Look, you can't go wrong

458
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Speaker 2: either way, Taylor or Serrano. You can't go wrong either

459
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Speaker 2: calling them the pow for Pong Qing. And if we

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Speaker 2: don't see this fight this coming year, Luke, and if

461
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Speaker 2: we don't get three minute rounds in women's boxing, I'm

462
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Speaker 2: gonna riot on both categories.

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Speaker 1: I think you might all right. Fight of the year

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Speaker 1: we'll have. This is an interesting one because I think

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Speaker 1: neither of us agreed on any of them, either for

466
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Speaker 1: MMA or for boxing. So BC stayed up front because

467
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Speaker 1: this is how they need you to give the lower

468
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Speaker 1: thirds together. Give me your two choices, boxing and MMA

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Speaker 1: for fight of the Year, and why you pick them?

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Speaker 2: Okay, my choice is. On the MMA side it was

471
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Speaker 2: Alexander Volkowski defending the Featherway title over Brian Ortega. And

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Speaker 2: on the boxing side, it was that showtime thriller at

473
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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two pounds of the unification Steven

474
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Speaker 2: Fulton Junior against Brandon Figueroa. Luke, I think both are

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Speaker 2: not controversial. Both are disputed picks because there's been so

476
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Speaker 2: many great fights this year. I want to tell you, though,

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Speaker 2: why I'm let's start in MMA. Why am I picking

478
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Speaker 2: Volkanowski or Tega over Alvarez Chandler, which was a fight.

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Speaker 2: Coming in that we said, oh my god, this could

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Speaker 2: be the fight of the year, and good God did it.

481
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Speaker 2: You could argue it delivered higher than the level of expectations.

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Speaker 2: I think though that was two round heavy. The third

483
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Speaker 2: round was a little bit more sliding down the hill,

484
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Speaker 2: although still a thriller and still exciting. But here's the deal.

485
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Speaker 2: Volkanowski Ortega was a five round championship fight. Doesn't mean

486
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Speaker 2: there weren't stakes in the Alvarez fight. It was a

487
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Speaker 2: number one contender bout, but this was one of those

488
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Speaker 2: that surprised you to be this type of fight. We

489
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Speaker 2: all said coming in that these are two you know,

490
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Speaker 2: pound for pound or an Ortegas case, sort of a

491
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Speaker 2: quasi top ten pound for pound guy. This could be

492
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Speaker 2: a highly skilled thriller. It was highly skilled, but it

493
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Speaker 2: was the passion, the drama, the back and forth, the

494
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Speaker 2: near submissions for Mortega. I've seen some people saying I

495
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Speaker 2: can't put this fight of the year because it was

496
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Speaker 2: a little bit too one sided for a normal choice.

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Speaker 2: I disagree. This had more of those oh shit, wile

498
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Speaker 2: moments from an unexpected standpoint. I think that's what won

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Speaker 2: me over. Also for a title. Also a little bit

500
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Speaker 2: more skill shown than the batshit crazy Alvarez Gaechee fight.

501
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Speaker 2: This mine because Luke had caught me off guard or Tega.

502
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Speaker 2: We can argue did he employ the right strategy? Is

503
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Speaker 2: he getting them the most out of himself? Or is

504
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Speaker 2: he taking on too much damage? He came there to

505
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Speaker 2: win that night. He emptied the tank, and he made

506
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Speaker 2: Volkanovsky show us a different side, a backbone for anybody

507
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Speaker 2: like PC who sometimes criticizes the Wizard as being too

508
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Speaker 2: footwork heavy and technical. No, he dug In showed, his heart,

509
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Speaker 2: showed everything. This was a wild ass championship fight that

510
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Speaker 2: had damage and had everything that I want, drama and

511
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Speaker 2: skill mixed together. I don't hate anyone who says Alvaz

512
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Speaker 2: Chandler was their fight of the year or their favorite

513
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Speaker 2: fight of all time. But Luke this won me over.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you tell me your MMA one and then

515
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Speaker 2: we'll get into the boxing category afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Well, why you said Alvarez Chandler, You mean Gaichie Chandler.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all over the place. I meant to say

518
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Speaker 2: Gaichie versus versus Chandler. I excuse me for adding Eddie

519
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Speaker 2: Alvarez his name in there incorrectly.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good fight too. But so here's the

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Speaker 1: thing with volkanovs Ortaga. I would agree it's a I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a phenomenal fight. I mean, I'm hardly bagging on

523
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Speaker 1: a terrible good fight here, But can it be fight

524
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Speaker 1: of the year if it's that one sided? I mean

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Speaker 1: the round three, I'm kind of giving it away. It's

526
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Speaker 1: my round of the year. We'll talk about that later.

527
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Speaker 1: But like at the end, it wasn't like you didn't

528
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Speaker 1: know who's gonna get their hand raised. For figure Row

529
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Speaker 1: and for Fulton, you didn't know. You really didn't know.

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Speaker 1: You had to wait and see. With this one, I

531
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Speaker 1: don't I'm a little bit skeptical of that, alright, So

532
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Speaker 1: we lost BC for just a second. Let's be back

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Speaker 1: with that in mind, I will give you my answers

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Speaker 1: for fight of the year. So here are the two

535
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Speaker 1: of them. For Boxing Fury Wilder three and then for MMA,

536
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Speaker 1: I went to san hagan Yan. Now I was a

537
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Speaker 1: little bit I didn't know if I want you want

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Speaker 1: to pick either of these, but here's why I ultimately

539
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Speaker 1: did for Fury Wilder three. It was heavyweight Mma was

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Speaker 1: the trilogy. No one in boxing right now has the

541
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Speaker 1: kind of relationship as adversaries that Wilder and Fury have.

542
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's people who have bad blood, there's people

543
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Speaker 1: who have had interesting fights and even rematches, But to

544
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Speaker 1: have this kind I mean, these guys, I want to

545
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Speaker 1: say built their careers off each other. That's a little

546
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Speaker 1: bit over much, but they built their current level of

547
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Speaker 1: fortune and fame certainly. I mean the most important chapter

548
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Speaker 1: that got them there is arguably this one for either

549
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Speaker 1: of them in different ways, obviously, but that fight Fury,

550
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Speaker 1: none of us believing Wilder had a chance, Fury having

551
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Speaker 1: to get off the canvas not once but twice, but

552
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Speaker 1: then stopping him again, going back to some of the

553
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Speaker 1: same many of the same things he did in the

554
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Speaker 1: second fight. It was just heavyweight brilliance. It was drama,

555
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Speaker 1: it was action, it was technique, it was storyline over

556
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Speaker 1: delivered in the biggest way. BC. I'm making a case

557
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Speaker 1: for Fury Wilder three.

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Speaker 2: So I got a little bit of you know this,

559
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Speaker 2: This was a big debate. We put out our CBS

560
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Speaker 2: Sports you know, which was voted by a panel that

561
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Speaker 2: but it should have.

562
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Speaker 1: I don't get paid to write, so I don't write.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you could vote. Do you get paid

564
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Speaker 2: to vote, Luke? I don't know that's a topic.

565
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Speaker 1: I don't get paid to vote, so I don't vote.

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal, though, you know, I got a lot

567
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Speaker 2: of feedback from people saying, how the hell could you

568
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Speaker 2: put Fulton Figueroa? What do you show? Time? Shill for life?

569
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Speaker 2: When Fury wild there three was the passion, the heavyweight, drama,

570
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Speaker 2: the old school flare, everything violent, the human spirit, everything

571
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Speaker 2: we would want. Yeah, you're right, it was all of that.

572
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Speaker 2: But when we're comparing, you know, apples to apples here

573
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it was a little

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Speaker 2: bit more one sided overall. Oh my god, did you

575
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Speaker 2: just say ful Kanowski one? Wasn't that more one sided?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Because I thought for a lot of that fight that

578
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Speaker 2: Ortega was gonna had a chance and was in that

579
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Speaker 2: fight even if he wasn't in and on the scorecards

580
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Speaker 2: as well, I thought Wilder was largely out of that

581
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Speaker 2: fight after that rush. He had to drop Fury twice,

582
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Speaker 2: which was exciting as hell, but you were watching him

583
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Speaker 2: sort of hang on and slowly dissipate before violently getting

584
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Speaker 2: finished by Fury. Full credit. It's one of the greatest

585
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Speaker 2: heavyweight time fights of all time, and really in the

586
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Speaker 2: last sixteen seventeen years, it might be the best we've seen.

587
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Speaker 2: You gotta go back to you know, I mean, aj

588
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Speaker 2: klitch Go is incrediblely you got to go back to

589
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Speaker 2: Lennox Lewis and Vitaliti clitch Go. It was awesome. But

590
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Speaker 2: what Fulton Figueroa was two unbeaten champions coming together and

591
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Speaker 2: they did that thing that I love in my fights

592
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Speaker 2: of the year. They mixed skill, pace and aggression and

593
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Speaker 2: craziness in that passion. It was twelve insane rounds in

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Speaker 2: which each round both were able to really, you know,

595
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Speaker 2: dictate their will into the fight and take over control.

596
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Speaker 2: It was Fultland countering in the first half of rounds,

597
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Speaker 2: landing the cleaner shots in the midst of the fire,

598
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Speaker 2: and then somehow a light wood a bell would go

599
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Speaker 2: off and figure O's head with about a minute and

600
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Speaker 2: a half to go in each round and he'd start

601
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Speaker 2: going batchit crazy to the body and walking Fulton down.

602
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Speaker 2: You didn't know who won each round. You didn't know

603
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Speaker 2: who deserved to win. By the end of it, it

604
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Speaker 2: was just twelve insanely great rounds in which both really

605
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: implemented their game plan perfectly. Yet there had to be

606
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Speaker 2: a winner and there had to be a loser, a

607
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Speaker 2: unification fight between two guys in their prime. It's hard

608
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Speaker 2: for me to sit here and say anything bad about

609
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Speaker 2: wild Theer Fury three, but the long layoff meant that

610
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Speaker 2: Fury wasn't really at his best. I give Wilder credit

611
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Speaker 2: for being willing to go so hard out on his

612
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Speaker 2: shield like he did. It was everything we want of

613
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Speaker 2: heavyweight boxing. But I think figurone Fulton was a better

614
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Speaker 2: fight across the board, and I'm very comfortable saying that

615
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Speaker 2: that gets my nod. Nobody's wrong if they like the

616
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Speaker 2: heavyweight one better, Luke, we do want to sort of

617
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Speaker 2: look at some of the other ones that deserve a NOD.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Peter Yan Corey Sanhagen could win on

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Speaker 2: other people's list?

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Speaker 1: Here, let's stick with FIGAROA Fulton for just a second,

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Speaker 1: because I agree with ninety nine point nine percent of

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Speaker 1: what you said. I mean, you can't bag on the fight.

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Speaker 1: The fight is incredible, the two fighters are incredible, The

624
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: circumstances are incredible. We're splitting hairs here. I'll just tell

625
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Speaker 1: you that the reason for me and this is very

626
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Speaker 1: much a preference based thing. So this is not me

627
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Speaker 1: like trying to convince you or anybody else out there watching.

628
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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you how I see it. When you

629
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Speaker 1: get a Fulton Figaroo type of fight, it's amazing and

630
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: it's brilliant, and it's bloody, and it's long, and it's difficult. Right,

631
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Speaker 1: It's just really really like hard nose kind of fights.

632
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Speaker 1: Sometimes though you can just I won't say get bored,

633
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: that's not the right word, but I can almost tune

634
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Speaker 1: it out because the action becomes all the flavors kind

635
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: of get lost in the dish a little bit because

636
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Speaker 1: it's just kind of washing over itself over and over again,

637
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Speaker 1: whereas this one had punctuated moments and momentum swings. I

638
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Speaker 1: will also tell you, well, I agree. I think from

639
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Speaker 1: around like five or six, I was like, how the

640
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: fuck is Deontay Wilder on his feet? Maybe it's round seven,

641
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: I can't remember anymore, but when the I think it

642
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: was the first time, that second time, excuse me, that

643
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: Fury got knocked down. I didn't know if he was

644
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: going to get back up. I was like, oh, this

645
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: is he sorry, make it out of the round, because

646
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: remember the activation to stand up and then just kind

647
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: of get bad at a little bit. I was the

648
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: first time I was like, do Deontay might finish him off.

649
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: It had these incredibly pump situated moments, whereas there was

650
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: just this steady intensity and fury to figure Rot and Fulton.

651
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: So either are brilliant, but they're a little bit different.

652
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 1: And that difference of high low versus like, you know,

653
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: sort of medium to high high all the time, it's

654
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more preferential to me.

655
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: It's fair. I just felt like, you know, like I

656
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: said in the same debate on the MMA side, I

657
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: felt like Ortega could have won that fight at any

658
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: point with a big rush of a knockout or a

659
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: submission threat like he was, even though that was, you know,

660
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: similarly in the more one sided category. But again, we're

661
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: talking about some of the best that could win any year.

662
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: It's really your preference at the end of the day.

663
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: I appreciate your breakdown right there. Look, let's look at

664
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: the honorable mentions that deserve it, that deserve a nod

665
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: or at least an argument in that level. On the

666
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: MMA side, you certainly have Yon Sanhagen, which.

667
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: Was, yeah, that's who I picked.

668
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, yes, you did pick that, Luke. Then

669
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: then this is the yeah, go ahead, No, why don't

670
00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: you go ahead?

671
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 1: Well, I'll just say for this one, this is an

672
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: interesting choice because in the end it wasn't that competitive

673
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: right by rounds. By round four you had a printler

674
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: sense that, like san Hagen's got some catching up to do.

675
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: He started strong, obviously as most people do. The reason

676
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: why I or against Yan, but then he takes him over.

677
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: The reason why I picked this one, though, BC's a

678
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: little bit different. The fight itself was great, really great,

679
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: and the result for Yan incredible, not just that he

680
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: becomes champion. But you know, the reason why I partly

681
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 1: picked this is because I have a very high degree

682
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: of respect for what Corey Sanhagan does and I think

683
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Peter Yan does too, and the level of ability and

684
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: craftsmanship and adjustments he had to show to get this

685
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: win over time was just, I mean unbelievable what he

686
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: had to show to get this win and the kind

687
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: of skill he was able to demonstrate that Corey had

688
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: a way of both in terms of the fight itself,

689
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: and I think in the prep pulling the best out

690
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: of Peter Yan and then had to weather that as

691
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: best he could, which was a difficult task. But in

692
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: the early going, what I loved about this fight was

693
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: that both guys represent kind of what a future model

694
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: of MMA elite fighters look like, although they're already in

695
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: the present. One happened to be a lot better than

696
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: the other one on that night, fair enough, but what

697
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: each guy was able to show and what one guy

698
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: pulled out of the other one just makes it historic

699
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 1: and special. But I grant, I grant that there are

700
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: some other reasons to pick some other fights that can be.

701
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: Just Yeah, I don't see how this one can win, Luke,

702
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: I think it's in the discussion, but I don't see

703
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: how you can talk yourself into sane, only because I

704
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: felt that Corey Sanhagen was behind this entire fight, and

705
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: I really didn't see an opening for him to win it,

706
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: even though he fought at a very high level and

707
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: sort of stealing dout Yan had an answer for everything

708
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: he had, And how the hell do we never talk

709
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: about how much Corey Sanagan looks exactly like Corey Menicchi,

710
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: our producer. We gotta put a split screen one day, Luke,

711
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's ridiculous how much they look look like

712
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: a little bit A little bit. Yeah, I mean it's obscene,

713
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: But Luke, I think you you know, look, everyone watching

714
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: this right now is probably going nuts that that neither

715
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: of us picked and picked geychie versus Chandler. So I think,

716
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: really that falls more on you.

717
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I liked geychie versus Chandler a lot.

718
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean again, with all of these fights, I have

719
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: nothing bad to say about it. It's great. I don't

720
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: have the same love for the I mean and Fury

721
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: Wild there was was a slabber knocker in many ways,

722
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: but with boxing it's a little bit different. Here's what

723
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: I'll say. Three round slaber knockers in MMA. I love them.

724
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: They're great, They're not bad. This was two of the

725
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: very best fighters in the world doing it. You're not

726
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: gonna hear me say anything bad about it, BC, But

727
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: three round mm slaber knockers aren't as interesting to me

728
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: as they are to the common sort of MMA fan.

729
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: MMA fans sent like. For example, I remember the year

730
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: that Brian Stan fought vanderla Silva that won a lot

731
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: of people's fighter of the Fight of the Year award.

732
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, dude, that fight rocks like

733
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: that fight's amazing, but that's not my fight of the year.

734
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: I can't put that on the list. That's just two

735
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: grown men biting down the mouthpiece and having aggression. But

736
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: that's not It's not the same thing I'm looking.

737
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: For, Okay. I mean that's fair from that regard. I

738
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: just I can't make that that same leap you did

739
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: for Jan Santigan, a very highly skilled fight, just the same.

740
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: I do want to shout out Belatour's best fighter of

741
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: the year. I thought was Sabahmasi against Paul Day, which

742
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: was one of those sort of old school slobber knockers

743
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: that you mentioned. And also, Luke, we can't overlook Max

744
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: Holloway versus Yai Rodriguez in a different type of year

745
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: that could have won it was that it was that

746
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: wild and violent and.

747
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: Crazy on hundred percent. I did. I looked at it closely.

748
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I might have to pick this one,

749
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: but in the end I didn't. But you're right that

750
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: it was absolutely on the list. All right, so let's

751
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: go to.

752
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: Hold on boxing real quick. That that second fight which

753
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: opened the year between Wan Francisco Estrada and Roman Chocolate

754
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: Tito Gonzalez. I almost I almost gave that my vote

755
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: this year.

756
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: It was.

757
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: It was in that category on that level. I just

758
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 2: think because the decision. It was a close, great fight,

759
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: but nobody thought Estrada should have won it, and certainly

760
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: not that wide. I think that soured a lot of

761
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: us from giving it the nod. Also, Luke, let's shout out, Uh,

762
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: Mikila Meyer had that ten round uh you know women's

763
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: championship win O for Mama Doucher whatever that lady's name was.

764
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: That was freaking That wasn't That was almost on the

765
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: level of remember Don Fry had that guy with you know,

766
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: with a with the Japanese guy and they just went

767
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: to town on each other THEMA. Yeah, it didn't look

768
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: that kind of crazy for a while. And Luke, it

769
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: may not get the votes, but you know what you

770
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: saw it. Terrence Crawford versus Sean Porter was like perfect elite,

771
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: high level pay per view theater. I loved everything about

772
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: that fight.

773
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: Hey, could my daughter yellmore during showtime? Would that would

774
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: that be? That'd be fun? Right?

775
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? You should go run a studio like the Schmoe

776
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: Luke and eliminate those issues.

777
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to motherfucker. Okay, So for knockout

778
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: of the ARBC, we'll go MMA and boxing here as well.

779
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: I'll go first on this one. You can react to

780
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: it if you like. For MMA side of things, I

781
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: like Pettis Ko and Horra Gucci. Now, this fight was

782
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: unbelievable because Pettis didn't just lose every round, as we

783
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: discussed after it happened. Dude, he lost every minute of

784
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: this round. He might have lost every striking exchange other

785
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: than the one he lost. You see, the reason why

786
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: I picked this knockout was not merely that by itself.

787
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: If you just watch the knockout itself, with a couple

788
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: of seconds before he delivers it, it's unbelievable in the

789
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: way that he gets it faking or at least attempting

790
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: the head kick and then just spinning back into it

791
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: and spinning backfast to re establish stance. That by itself

792
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: is just unbelievable, the one hitter quitter part. But when

793
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: you add in that he was facing a level of

794
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: adversity that either should have finished him off or made

795
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: him quit mentally, and instead he stayed in there in

796
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: the fifth round, getting it done the way he did.

797
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: It's dude, You'll you will almost never see major MMA

798
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: titles handed over this way. You might see it via knockout.

799
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: You might see it via a knockout late in the

800
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: fight or something like that. I'm not saying that, but

801
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying you'll never see a scenario or very rarely

802
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: where God gets his ass whipped but but doesn't lose

803
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: mental composure all the way into the fifth against an

804
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: opponent who has clearly been better but gets finished off

805
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: because he has one momentary lapse You about the state

806
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: of MMA and how difficult it is at the elite level.

807
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Tells you a lot about these competitors, tells you a

808
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: lot about Pettis's mental makeup, and it just tells you

809
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: a lot about the fight game generally. I love this ko.

810
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Hora Gucci, but it's what makes

811
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: the fight game special.

812
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 2: This was it has to be this Luke because it's

813
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: high level, it's for the damn title. But this is

814
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 2: one of those rare times you know you don't do

815
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: you know, fight recaps anymore. I'm sure you've done your sure,

816
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: your fair, sure fair, and your time. But there's there's

817
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: a rare thing that we do once in a while, Luke.

818
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: I try not to do it to jinx myself. But

819
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: when a fight is so one sided and there's such

820
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: a strong narrative in front of you, you start to

821
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: form your thoughts, you start to write your lead as

822
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: the fight's going on. This was one of those fights

823
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh shit, Kyoji. Horrigucci is not only back,

824
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: he really might be the best ban of weight in

825
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: the world. He is outclassing a world CLASSI fighter like

826
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: Sergio Pettis in every single category. He's back from surgery

827
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: in a long layoff. He's the guy. How did UFC

828
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: ever let this guy go? All those narratives are being

829
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: you know, playing out in front of you on Twitter

830
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: or in your head, and then Pettis gives you that

831
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: kind of maybe it's not yeah here Rodriguez against you know,

832
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: the Korean zombie, but it's of that ilk where you're

833
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: just like, holy fuck, how did that happen? And it

834
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: just damn Look that's a cliffhanger, you know, well, it's

835
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: on the level of million Dollar baby, although I never

836
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: encourage anyone to watch that, but it's certainly on the

837
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: level of you know, spoiler alert, no I am your father.

838
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: It's one of those like, holy shit, really Darth is

839
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 2: Anakin's looks are you kidding me? Insane? I love it.

840
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: It's gotta win, wow, Luke. But dude, on the MMA side,

841
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: before we get to boxing, it had some competitors, Luke,

842
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: any other year, it's gotta be Yeri Prohotzka against Dominic Reisloke.

843
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: That was violent. His is shit, dude, m h m hm.

844
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: Or Oustan Botsman all too, Luke, that was perfect or

845
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: San Haagen Edgar Dude.

846
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: Come on, there's some vicious ones out there. This was

847
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: a one that was harder to pick. But as you mentioned,

848
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: you can watch regional MMA and see stuff like this

849
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: all the time, but that kind of a game just

850
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: doesn't really work ninety nine point nine percent of the

851
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: time at the elite level, especially when a weight class

852
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: title is on the line. Go look at all the

853
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: times that a BELLATOOR or UFC or PFL title was

854
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: up for grabs. How many times ended something like this?

855
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: You just don't see those kinds of errors or these

856
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: kinds of uh you know, volatility effect operators that smooth,

857
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: but it just takes quite literally one just one mistake,

858
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: and you can lose your assumed title. At that point,

859
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: nothing it has to get, the win has to.

860
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 2: That's why we love the damn sport, Luke. And also

861
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: I mean shout out to obviously in Ghanu with that

862
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: jab ko of Steepe or maybe it was the jab

863
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: that that floored him to set it up. There were

864
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: a few other great ones in the elite. On a level,

865
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: it was a monstrous year, Luke. On the boxing side,

866
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: there's a debate to be had there, Luke.

867
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so you and I don't agree on this one.

868
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: I actually feel like yours is probably gonna be the

869
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: one that most people pick. I'm happy to admit that

870
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't have the choice that I think is leading

871
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: the consensus among most. But I will tell you BC,

872
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: at some point during the year, you watch highlights, and

873
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: I did not watch the Rosatto fight against Melikzaiev live.

874
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: I only saw my Twitter feed kind of blow up

875
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: after he did it, and then I went and saw

876
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: it and it was one of those punches dude, like

877
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Maybe you can argue, maybe you can

878
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: argue that the Valdez versus burch eltwin is a better KO,

879
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: and I think you will probably argue that, yes you will.

880
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. What single punch in boxing was

881
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: more memorable than Rosatto's KO punch in that fight, like

882
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: you can see it in your mind plain as day.

883
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: He stuck him when no one thought he was gonna

884
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: stuck him, and he faced first to the canvas, and

885
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: that was fucking it. It stuck in my mind. It

886
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: burned a hole in there. And for that reason, and

887
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: by the way, he got himself the Mungia fight from this,

888
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: which he wasn't even supposed to get he had. This

889
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: was a huge upset as well. I love this win

890
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: from gab Risotto. He's a true vett That was That

891
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: was a thunderous punch that he landed in. Yeah, it

892
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: counted a lot.

893
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: For me, full disclosure. I had this as my third

894
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: best of the year. And what made it special was

895
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: that Risotto was up at a higher weight. He's not

896
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: even a puncher, he's old, he's got a million losses,

897
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: and Beck the Bully was like Superman coming in with

898
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: his hands down in the corner and dude, he just

899
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: got caught with one of those perfect shots and when

900
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: he went face down under the ropes, I mean, it

901
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: was just it was brutal. But Luke, you nailed what

902
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: I think is number one. And I think, you know,

903
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: while this is a debate heavy category because boxing had

904
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: a lot of good ones, what Oscar Valdez did and

905
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: moving up in wait, Miguel Burchell has had a run

906
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: as a one hundred and thirty pound champion that you know,

907
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: he hasn't been touched with one win after another. We

908
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: talked like, hey, this is a great fight, you gotta

909
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: watch it. But Oscar Valdez, man, I can't see him

910
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: moving up in wait and doing this. Not only Luke

911
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: did he shock people by flooring Burchell twice early and

912
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: just you know, dominating this fight. It's an outside Fight

913
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: of the Year contender despite it being one sided. But

914
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: what put it over the top was how vicious there

915
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 2: are there Once in a while, Luke, you get one

916
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 2: of those vicious KOs in an elite title fight, think

917
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: Marquez Pacquiel four where you're just like, oh, God, like,

918
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: that's what this punch was to deliver Burchell This is

919
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: how you make a statement. Obviously, Valdez's year turned turned

920
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: in another direction with the failed drug test. You hat

921
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: the fight still went on and all the you know,

922
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: rumors and accusations about what's going on and Team Canelo,

923
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: But this was a major breaking out moment for an

924
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: undefeated fighter moving up in wait and doing this to

925
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: the division's boogeyman. What a beautiful punch that was almost

926
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: Marquez like in that shell ducked in going for the

927
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: kill and he just got caught and laid out. Uh But, Luke,

928
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: this was a great year for honorable mentions and contenders.

929
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: And you said you don't think there was a bigger

930
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: more memorable single punch than the Risotto one dude, Jake

931
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: Paul against Tyron Woodley Part two. It's pretty damn memorable,

932
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: Pretty damn memorable for a single punch.

933
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: That's fair. I've talked I was talking about so high

934
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: level boxing, but yes, you're right, that is extremely memorable.

935
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: You do have to give it credit. I mean again,

936
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: it's the circumstances are what they are in terms of

937
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: the credibility of for boxing sake, but as a KO

938
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: by KO standards, it is pretty fucking good.

939
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: I will get and I want to shout out what

940
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: was my number two for boxing? If you didn't see

941
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 2: the Showbox Ko by unbeaten Bran dun Lee as Luke

942
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: likes to say, Brandon Lee, but it's it's spelled.

943
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: He spelled a d u n. It's a little bit weird,

944
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: but yeah.

945
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: I mean he's twenty four and oh with twenty two

946
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 2: KOs just twenty two years old. He fought Samuel He's.

947
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: A fucking hammer, by the way.

948
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: And what made this ko and your daughter loved it

949
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: as as you can hear. What made this Ko so

950
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: great is the way that Samuel Taya fought fell Luke.

951
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: When he got hit, he was concussed, he went like

952
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: this and it was Tim Burr. I mean it was

953
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 2: it was incredible, dude.

954
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: Also, I got to say it was on that Canelo

955
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: card and no one really cared all that much because

956
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: it was you know, Canelo or bust on that thing.

957
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: But dude, Andre Durell's upper cut Kore, Dude, it was

958
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: fucking nice.

959
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn right, it was. That was beautiful. That won

960
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: him another big fight, by the.

961
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: Way, all right round of the year. This is another

962
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: one where I think we have a little bit of

963
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: differences for I don't I don't know if I have

964
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: one for boxing, because I don't know if anyone stood

965
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: out to me that much. We'll start on the MMA

966
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: side of things. BC. I picked Volkanovsky Ortega round three.

967
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: This is the round where you'll recall where Volkanovsky was

968
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: pushed to the limit with a series of very close

969
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: submission attempts from a mounted guillotine to a triangle to

970
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: I think, to a couple of triangles along the way,

971
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: and he was absolutely pushed to the brink of his

972
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: submission to and combat sports situational awareness that he had

973
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 1: to have just to survive that, right, I understand something.

974
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: If a choke submission is in tight enough, it doesn't

975
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: matter if you wish to keep going. Your body will

976
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: shut off. It will make a decision for you. So

977
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: you have to put yourself in a position where that

978
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, and then you have to fight out. That's

979
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: exactly what Volkanovsky did, and then on top of a

980
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: BC to be that close and then to turn the

981
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: tides and then get on top and then go back

982
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: into the guard and smash him on top. It was

983
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: it was incomprehensible. You couldn't understand how a or Taka

984
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: could get that close that many times and then not

985
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: get it, and then on top of it, how Volkanovsky

986
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: could just throw caution to the wind the way he

987
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: was doing it to go back into the space that

988
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: you knew was danger. All he had to do BC

989
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: you know this was stand up and invite him to

990
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: stand and he didn't. He went back in there to

991
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: send a message, but my message got either way. One

992
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: of the most miraculous rounds you'll see in MMA, certainly

993
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: for high levels, certainly for a title just maybe the

994
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: best that he gets in terms of back and forth

995
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: mixed mortial arts action.

996
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: That could have easily won out. In mind, that was

997
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: one of the great o shit moments and why we

998
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: love the sport and why I made that my fight

999
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: of the year, by the way, because of ore Tega

1000
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: being so close to pulling off that miraculous win and

1001
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: then by the end of it being like, oh shit,

1002
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: he might be done right there. So that was incredible.

1003
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: But Luke, here's why I'm going to give the love

1004
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: back where it belongs. In the Gayschee versus Chandler. We

1005
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: all thought it could be one of the best fights

1006
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 2: we've ever seen. And that first round, Luke, was I mean,

1007
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: it was just next level. It was just two guys

1008
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 2: biting down in round one and just throwing bombs. And

1009
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: you know what made the argument of why it could

1010
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 2: have been Fight of the year was the stakes Number

1011
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: one could tender about, you know, high placement there in

1012
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: terms of the attention. It was the people's main event

1013
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 2: to quote Arielhallan or the Rock, depending on which side

1014
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: you're on, and it freaking delivered. I could watch that

1015
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: on a loop for the rest of my life, Luke,

1016
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: I love that round so much. But look, do you

1017
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: know what was my number two pick? And it's right

1018
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: freaking there. Do you remember round one of Marlon Reis

1019
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: versus Devali Shilly when suddenly looked like he hadn't lost

1020
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: four fights in a row or whatever, and he was

1021
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:24,479
Speaker 2: putting it.

1022
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: On him and stopped him, nearly stopped him.

1023
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: Luke, that was a whole fight in one round. Like

1024
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: there was enough drama for like a whole damn five

1025
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: round fight in a five minute round. You cannot like that.

1026
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: That has somebody has some publication has to make that

1027
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: their round of the year because it was that good.

1028
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: I certainly agree that was just incredible. I liked Chandler

1029
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Gegee round one as well. I want to be very

1030
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: clear about it. It's just, you know, yeah, you refuse.

1031
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: To recognize that fight at all.

1032
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: Apparently round one I can Round one I can grant

1033
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: deserves to be in the Round of the Year conversation.

1034
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: Overall fight, I did not feel like rounds two and

1035
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: three were nearly as good.

1036
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,959
Speaker 2: So Round one of Chandler versus Olavera was also bat

1037
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: shit crazy on this same calendar.

1038
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of fights you can point to

1039
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: in Chandler's career and be like, yo, round one sucked.

1040
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: Yeeah luke.

1041
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: I don't think you and I voted for boxing, but

1042
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: let's make sure we recognize that round one of Tayo

1043
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: Femo Lopez versus George Cambosos, which turned out to be

1044
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: such a great upset. Glenn Feldman a great one of

1045
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: the best boxing judges who just happens to live in

1046
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: my same town and I'm friends with him. He was

1047
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: one of those two of the three judges that scored

1048
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: that a ten to nine round for Cambosis, and people

1049
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: are like, oh, they tried to screw him. It should

1050
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: have been ten eight with the knockdown. I talked to

1051
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: him about it after the fact and he's like, dude,

1052
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 2: I was sitting right there ringside Tayo Femo was putting

1053
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: it on cambosas before that momentum shifted and he really was, Luke.

1054
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: The one thing about Tayo, yeah, I think he overlooked George,

1055
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: but he came out in round one looking to koh

1056
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: the fuck out of him after that long soap opera

1057
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: with you know, Triller and all that BS. Dude, when

1058
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: that thing shifted, when that turned, This is theater, dude,

1059
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: that you got to go back and rewatch round one

1060
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: if anyone missed it, that is a great piece of

1061
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: theater right there, of Tayo Femal getting dropped, and you know,

1062
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: you can argue was never the same the rest of

1063
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: the fight. He looked embarrassed, but that came out of nowhere.

1064
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: I agree. I love that round. Also, what has played

1065
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: more in my house BC the rematch between Volkanovsky and

1066
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: Holloway or Incanto, now that it's on streaming on disneyploy

1067
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: is it on right now?

1068
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: Luke?

1069
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: Is this why you're daughter celebrating fucking loud and I

1070
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: can hear it. But you know what am I doing

1071
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: with my life? BC? Nothing? Nothing that matters. So that's

1072
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: why it's loud.

1073
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: Have you soundproofed your office? Luke? I put this foam

1074
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: all over the ceiling. I put over the door one

1075
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: of those moving blankets. I'm trying to work hard to

1076
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: keep my family away from the bad language coming out

1077
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: of the show.

1078
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: It won't really work that well in here because it's

1079
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: too small. But anyway, all right, let's go to Submission

1080
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: of the Year, obviously an MMA exclusive kind of category here, BC,

1081
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: do you want to go first? Who do you have

1082
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: as your twenty twenty one submission of the years?

1083
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: Look, I don't want to go much further and not

1084
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: give this guy some kind of due. We didn't put

1085
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: him in our Fighter of the Year talk, although I

1086
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: think you know, really he deserves the same. Aj McKee

1087
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 2: that fight with Patricio pitpoll rightfully, we played it up

1088
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: as really the most important, the biggest in Belator history.

1089
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: Let's not forget how shocking the result was. It was

1090
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: aj McKee jumping all over pit Bull, putting him into

1091
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: that that that guillotine, and really putting him away, Luke,

1092
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: that was shocking. It wasn't you know the same mckeotine

1093
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: that that finished called Well, it didn't have the same

1094
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: sort of crazy. We've never seen that before. But let's

1095
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: talk about the stakes, let's talk about who pit Bull

1096
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: was coming in, and let's talk about how quickly McKee

1097
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: jumped all over him, put him in position and ended it.

1098
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: That's what makes aj McKey special. That was a monster moment.

1099
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: That's my submission of the year.

1100
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: Uh, I can't hate on it. The only reason I'm

1101
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: gonna pick what I picked is I just like a

1102
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: little bit more submission flare to it. But basically, Andre Muneze,

1103
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: by the way, getting two from the back arm bars

1104
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: in the same year is also kind of interesting. But

1105
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: he submitted Jacquaray this year and broke his arm in

1106
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: the process. Now, that's not the first guy to break

1107
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: Jacqueray's arm with an armbar. Hadrick Gracie did it all

1108
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: the way back in two thousand and four at the

1109
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: World Championships. But Andre mune Moonie, excuse me, becomes the

1110
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: first person to do it in MMA and by the way,

1111
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: it kind of hastened his departure from the sport, Jackray

1112
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: subsequently retiring not soon actually not long after this moment.

1113
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: But dude, to get a submission over a guy like

1114
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: Jacquaray is extremely difficult to do. Quite literally, one got

1115
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: it and that was it, and Jaquaray faced the very

1116
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: best of his generation along the way. You know, it's

1117
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: the one thing to catch an accidental submission. After you

1118
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: rock somebody right, like hit him with a punch and

1119
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: they're barely there, and then you take their back and

1120
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: then you choke them out, you know that counts or something.

1121
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 1: But it's very different when you got a guy who

1122
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: is more or less with it and then you just

1123
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: sort of systemically go past him to break his arm,

1124
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: which is what Monies did the rarest of rare submissions.

1125
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: I have to give it to him by virtue of that.

1126
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: Would you say that, while I love that pick and

1127
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: it could easily be what you loved about, it was

1128
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: the shock that he did it to such a submission expert.

1129
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: How about the shock that McKee used the guillotine. I'm

1130
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: the guillotine master in pitbull fair.

1131
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: Enough either way, no doubt about it. But submitting pitbull,

1132
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: while difficult, extremely difficult. He's a black belt jiu jitsu

1133
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: submitting Jacquaray is a different ballgame, and you just got

1134
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: to recognize that for what it is. But people didn't

1135
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: do it for a very good reason except until they did, right,

1136
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: So there you have it, all right, This one is

1137
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: easy in certain ways and then not in other ones.

1138
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: Let's go Upset of the Year BC. I'll go first

1139
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: of those one because this is where we disagree on

1140
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: the MMA side of things. Now, I grant from the

1141
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: odds perspective that your answer is certainly much better than mine.

1142
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: The reason I went with mine is because of the

1143
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: way the fight played out. Where I have Upset of

1144
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: the Year, I have pettes KOing Horagucci, I grant, I

1145
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: grant that Paanya defeating Amanda Nunez is a much bigger

1146
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: upset that shocked the world. However, the only reason I

1147
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 1: picked Petes BC is because of the way the fight

1148
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: itself played out. A Petus was an underdog going into it,

1149
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: although not super significantly I don't recall, but he wasn't underdog,

1150
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: not as much as Panya was to Nonas either way,

1151
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: but the fact that he got walloped for every moment

1152
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: of that fight up until the middle or whatever it

1153
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: was of the fifth round is so unusual, so rare.

1154
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, talk about how many different ways I should

1155
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: say this, SBC. In terms of pulling victory from the

1156
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: jaws of defeat by the time the fight started, I

1157
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: felt like Pettis had a harder job. I feel like

1158
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: Pana defeating NUNEZBC is a huge win, a huge win,

1159
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: but part of that is driven by the media narrative

1160
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: about how Amanda's unbeatable, and that's just us being wrong,

1161
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: not about the facts of the case. The facts of

1162
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: the cases. Pettis had almost no chance to win that

1163
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: and still found a way to win it via stoppage

1164
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: on top of that. For that reason, I have to

1165
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: call that the upset of the year.

1166
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: Luke. I had no disrespect to you, but I think

1167
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: DJ Khaled said it best when he said, you know, congratulations,

1168
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: you played yourself, Luke. A lot of people think this

1169
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: fantastic Bob Marley vacation had I purchased, is you know,

1170
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: a bridge too far. It's hipster dad BC just not

1171
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: understanding real life and where he is in his life.

1172
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: And you know, you can say the same about your

1173
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 2: European man bag that you debuted at the Cleveland Indians

1174
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: KEG Party slash Red Sox baseball game we had for

1175
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: DOC five. But Luke, first of all, Newness Penia is

1176
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: the biggest upset in MMA history. If I mean, come on, Luke,

1177
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: how can I O?

1178
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Odds it's the biggest.

1179
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: Secondly, pettis well, okay, the underdog as champion was a

1180
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: slight underdog or Gucci was coming off a layoff in

1181
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 2: a cert and we still didn't really know who was

1182
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 2: gonna win that fight. You can say it's the biggest

1183
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: upset based on where the fight was. Okay, at that

1184
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: moment he was getting dominated. Yes, but not only do

1185
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: I take umbrage with that, Pick, I do take umbrage

1186
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 2: with you saying that the whole thing was media driven.

1187
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: Luke part of it, Okay, But here's the deal, though,

1188
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: Juliana Painte, we were right to discount or even eliminate

1189
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: any chance pain ahead. I'm telling you we were actually right.

1190
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: She was two and two in the last five years.

1191
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: She got dominated and finished by GDR and chef Chenko,

1192
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: who were sort of the elite level people that showed

1193
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: her where she's at. Even the win over Sarah McMahon

1194
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: had a lot of holes. It wasn't overly impressive. What

1195
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: she did was effing shocking. Is all kinds of shit,

1196
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: Luke in the fact that she wore down Newness, who

1197
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 2: we still don't know. Was it a did she lose

1198
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: her you know, gas tank because of the weight cut?

1199
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: Did she lose her will because of the success? You

1200
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: still don't. No, But no one would have ever guessed

1201
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: that Newness would have standed there, stood there, open mouth,

1202
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: gashed out, just eating jab after jab. We could not

1203
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: create a path to victory for paina ahead of time.

1204
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: And while I give you credit for you didn't pick

1205
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: the upset, but you did come out and say, people

1206
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: stop with this. She has no freaking chance at all.

1207
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: I'll give you that credit because that kind of thinking

1208
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: prevents upsets like this from being part of the discussion.

1209
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: But that's what made this the best upset ever and

1210
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: certainly the best of twenty twenty one, because we couldn't.

1211
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: You think this is better than Rowsey Holme, Yes, I do, because.

1212
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: In hindsight, in hindsight, right after that fight happened, we

1213
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: all said, oh shit, we should have seen this coming.

1214
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: The holes in Rowsey's game mixed with the strengths of

1215
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: Holme's footwork, boxing kickboxing ability to set all that up.

1216
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: We should have seen it coming. We shouldn't have seen

1217
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: this coming. In fact, look, I'm gonna be I know

1218
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: it's unfair to Pania. I don't think she could do

1219
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: this second time.

1220
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: This was the I was gonna ask you about that.

1221
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: Who has a better chance to win in the rematch

1222
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: Petus over Hora Gucci or or or a Penia over

1223
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: noon as.

1224
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: The second time, I think Horgucci is still among the

1225
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: top three band weights in the world and probably the

1226
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, the should be the favorite entering that Belatore tournament. Dude,

1227
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: I think this was the Buster Douglas perfect storm. Now,

1228
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Pena is the same classifier that Buster

1229
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: was when he pulled that off a guy who had

1230
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: shown potential a little. Yeah, that's unfair, but in terms

1231
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: of the like it shouldn't have happened. I think it's

1232
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: an operation Luke, the way that the man let.

1233
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: Me ask you a question. And I'm serious here, I

1234
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: think that I don't know this, of course, like none

1235
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: of us know this, but my my feeling is that

1236
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: the chances of Amanda Nunaz losing twice are much greater

1237
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: than Killji Horror Gucci losing twice the Pettis Am I

1238
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: crazy for that?

1239
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: No? No, dude, dude, Amanda's the betting favorite in the rematch.

1240
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: Luke, No, I'm I'm saying I think the chances of

1241
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: Pena winning. Here's what I'm saying. I think Penya I

1242
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: don't know if she will win if they fight again.

1243
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if they fight again, both both payers, right,

1244
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: I actually feel like Hora Gucci's chances of winning are

1245
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: much better than uh than Penya's.

1246
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, chances are much better than Payya pedis is.

1247
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: This is but this is sort of what I mean, Like,

1248
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think Pettis really has a chance

1249
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: to beat Hora Gucci. That that that that that thing

1250
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: he pulled off, Dude, like he'll help f one hundred

1251
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: more times. He'll never pull that off again.

1252
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that that type of way of how he won

1253
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: it was was a miracle. But but Luke, he's a

1254
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: world class fighter who the betting odds were close for

1255
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: a reason entering that fight. Dude, Pinya doesn't have the

1256
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: game to do what she did. It was the perfect storm.

1257
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: How did she?

1258
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: Here's what I would say to see. I think part

1259
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: of your assumptions need to be a little correct a

1260
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: little bit. And this is why the predictions game, it's like,

1261
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: we gotta be careful about doing it. Dude. If she

1262
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: won and we didn't see it, and the case of

1263
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: Petis and Horgucci, I think you would agree. The guy

1264
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: was literally getting his ass kicked for twenty three minutes

1265
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: whatever it was, and then through the spinning backfast he

1266
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: does he he threw it with intentionality and it landed,

1267
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: but he was I mean, he was getting eaten alive

1268
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: by killed you Horriguci. He had no hope. Dude. I

1269
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: don't think it's at all crazy that if they fight again,

1270
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: Paina beats her. I don't think that's she. The only

1271
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: way to her.

1272
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: The only way Panya could do it a second time

1273
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: is if Amanda's done, as if this fight was the

1274
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 2: turning point that Amanda's not the same fighter and will

1275
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: never be. Latin Fauci, you do have to take a

1276
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: step back and see the see the whole forest through

1277
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: the damn trees here looking enough.

1278
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: No, we didn't talk about Yeah, we didn't.

1279
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: Talk about enough was how sloppy and almost irresponsible Amanda's

1280
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: cardio was.

1281
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: Now.

1282
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: I think it was because of what Pinya did. She

1283
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: rightfully yanked on that arm for a full round and

1284
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: wore Amanda down. I do think there's other factors, whether

1285
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: it's lack of preparation, over confidence, whatever, it was, bad

1286
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: way cut, It's all part of the story. I just

1287
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 2: don't think it's it's remotely likely that Juliana does this again,

1288
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: Luke's she doesn't have those skills. This was a great

1289
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: victory for the human spirit. Shout out to Pania bbl's

1290
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: for life, Luke. But you gotta see the truth, dude.

1291
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: I think that when you pick someone to win and

1292
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: then they don't, you need to have a long conversation

1293
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: about why you got it wrong, rather than oh, she

1294
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: can't do this again. No, she probably can. Maybe unlikely,

1295
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: but she probably can and probably is a better chance

1296
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: of doing it than you think. Is the way I

1297
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: was it.

1298
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: She kind of like what Amanda did to Cyborg in

1299
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: the first round of their fifty one second fight. She

1300
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: lured Cyborg into a bad shit crazy war, took the bigger,

1301
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: took big shots, and outlanded her. Pina in a weird way,

1302
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: did the same thing. She turned it into a crazy

1303
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 2: ass street fight. And credit to her chin and balls

1304
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: and all that she outlasted her. But Luke, she was

1305
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: sloppy and finishing her too. I mean it was, it was.

1306
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 2: It was a damn street fight. That's not gonna happen

1307
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: a second time.

1308
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't again. I don't favor her to win a

1309
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: second time. But I think the chances of uh Painia

1310
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: doing that to Nunez are much greater, much greater than

1311
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: Pettis doing something even remotely similar to get the W again. Look,

1312
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if they lined up, if they lined

1313
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: up Pettis and Hora Gucci and Pnia and Nunez. And

1314
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: you're telling me that Pettis's path to beat Horagucci is

1315
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: much easier than Nunez versus for Penia to beat Nunaz.

1316
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: Is that what you're arguing?

1317
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: If if if Julianna Panna was born in Iowa to

1318
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: parents of Irish and German descent, this this, you would

1319
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: not be taking this stance, And you know it.

1320
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: I No, I don't think so. I feel like everyone is.

1321
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: It's not so much that they're over. There is some

1322
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: overestimating of Paenya. Yes, that is clearly happening here, But

1323
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: you don't hear me saying that. What you're hearing me

1324
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: say is everyone is making out Amanda to be unbeatable,

1325
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: and for a time it certainly felt that way. But dude, like,

1326
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: you can't, like, the level of which she has occupied

1327
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: is so insanely difficult to maintain. Some regression to a

1328
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: more attackable level was inevitable. Now if she has reached

1329
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: that level, we don't know, we'll see. But dude, but

1330
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: Horror Gucci, Hora Gucci is in his motherfucking prime.

1331
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: What kills your argument is this? Holly Holm was clinical

1332
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: in how she game planned and executed to beat Ronda Rousey.

1333
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: Juliana wasn't clinical, looke. It was just a great freaking night,

1334
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: be fair right. There was nothing freaking clinical about it.

1335
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: It was a great night. Yes, it was not clinical, no,

1336
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: but but there was a certain level of intensity that

1337
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: she brought to the exchanges that Amanda was not able

1338
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: to meet that night. Just she just wasn't you know, dude,

1339
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: Horra Gucci had an answer for everything up until he

1340
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: didn't like, that's the difference to me, Like Hora Gucci

1341
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: is almost certain to win when he fights Petis the

1342
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: second time, But I don't think that's the case at

1343
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: all for a man of noons and pain, even though

1344
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: if I favor Amanda to win in that case too.

1345
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying that. All right, moving on from that, BC,

1346
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: We're almost done here. Oh and then for boxing, kem

1347
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: boss over Lopez? What else could be the winner there?

1348
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: I gotta be right, gotta be gotta be slam dunk. Absolutely,

1349
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 2: what a great comment for boxing.

1350
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: So let's go to this one. What is the biggest

1351
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: irrespective of sport or even gender, who had the single

1352
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: biggest win this year?

1353
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna be fair here. My answer is

1354
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: paying you overnonas it doesn't get bigger than beating the

1355
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: greatest of all time and doing it the manner in

1356
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: which she did it, that big of an underdog. I mean, look,

1357
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: there's nothing get bigger than that. But she already won

1358
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: Upset of the Year. She wins this category.

1359
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: Two.

1360
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: I gotta give Alexander Usik upsetting Anthony Joshua as being

1361
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: the biggest winner this year. Joshua wasn't pomp for pound

1362
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: anymore like he was for a season back when he

1363
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: was un bea and but I think Joshua was the

1364
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: unified heavyweight champion of the world. There were distinct concerns

1365
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: about if Usik, who had a great sort of introduction

1366
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: to heavyweight in a second heavyweight fight when he beat Derkhasara,

1367
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: But Dirk Tasaur is a little on the other you know,

1368
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: on the back side, there was no full indication that

1369
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: Dusik was going to be able to take the bigger

1370
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: punches from the bigger fighter and still implement the game

1371
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: plan that he wanted to and most importantly, Luke Land

1372
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: the type of power shots that could give aj pause.

1373
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: How did Usik win this fight? He disciplined Joshua forced

1374
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: him to be more of a countering pot shotter from

1375
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: the outside or or thinking he can out box Dusk,

1376
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: which was a bad game plan. This was a brilliant, brilliant,

1377
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: high level win. You consider the stakes, you consider what

1378
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 2: we thought coming in. I can't put it above Paynia

1379
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: new Nes for what it meant, you know, in terms

1380
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: of you know, what, what is the biggest win of

1381
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: the year mean, it means what's the most important you know,

1382
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: in terms of the credibility of both coming in and

1383
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: the stakes. To me, it's Paia noons. But shout out

1384
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 2: to Alexander Usik. We can't overlook this. I hope they

1385
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: rematch this year. They should. This was a major, major breakthrough,

1386
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: step up performance. I really wish Usik could have been

1387
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: more active and could have, you know, made a run

1388
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: at Canalo for Fight of the Year, because the way

1389
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: that he executed this was just absolutely brilliant. What a

1390
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 2: win well, and look, he doesn't talk about it a lot,

1391
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: but he took a lot of damage. He just didn't

1392
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: show it in this fight, and he was able to

1393
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: bite down in the mouth guard and fight right through it.

1394
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, Anthony Joshua was huge. He's going to

1395
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: deliver a big punishment even off of a jab if

1396
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: he can land it. And Usik was a much smaller

1397
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: guy than the two, and so you had to weather

1398
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 1: that as well. I like your choices. The only reason

1399
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: I went a little bit of a different direction is

1400
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: because both of what you have are somewhat surprising. Certainly,

1401
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: the Pina win is surprising, and even usig win was

1402
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, was an upset and was surprising. And I

1403
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: think I mean, maybe some boxing insiders kind of saw

1404
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: it coming, but it was still shocking to watch in

1405
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: the moment.

1406
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: I mean that was not for the record, I predicted

1407
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: Usik would win, just so we can fair enough.

1408
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: So this is my point though, right, I mean, like

1409
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: it was still surprising and amazing to watch, but it

1410
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: was not so unexpected, and there's a little bit of

1411
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: an element to surprise. I'm relatively speaking for me, this

1412
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: one was expected as well, but because of what it signified,

1413
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: I went in this direction. I'm gonna go Canelo defeating

1414
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: Caleb Plant. I really believe that that when he got

1415
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: this year in setting himself apart in terms of guys

1416
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: who've unified a weight class, where he stands among all

1417
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: Latin fighters, where he stands now among Mexican fighters, and

1418
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: even what you're seeing Roberto Durant, of course is Panamanian,

1419
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: but still he was weighing in on where Canelo stands

1420
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: as Mexican fighters, and he was saying he thinks he's

1421
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: now number one. Again. It's sort of a debate about

1422
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: whether the body of work is enough at this point,

1423
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: obviously relative to the standing greats in that division. But

1424
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: you get the idea to me. This was It was

1425
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,479
Speaker 1: not a surprising win. We had kind of seen it coming.

1426
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: He had telegraphed it. There was a lot of like,

1427
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, almost checking a box kind of feel to it.

1428
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: But the fight was intriguing. Caleb Plant did not lay down.

1429
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: Canilole really had to work for it, and it was

1430
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: a huge crowning achievement. It was BC. It was the

1431
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: culmination of a process that ended on that day. But

1432
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: I think when you really look back at what he

1433
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: did to get himself to that position and what that

1434
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: win does for his career, it's so huge, it's so significant.

1435
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: You're right, the USIK wins over Joshua is big in

1436
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: Pegna as well. Who could say otherwise, But you can't

1437
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: lose sight of this one.

1438
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 2: Too, No question about a great choice. I think we

1439
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: also have to put a lot of respect on another

1440
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 2: fight that could have won it, and that's Charles Olivera's

1441
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: victory over Dustin Pourier. It's just, you know, that was

1442
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: him cementing that he was the best lightweight in the world.

1443
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: Posted to Be people hate when I say it. Stop

1444
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: saying post to Be. He's not there anymore. I know

1445
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: he's not there anymore. But he's still in his early

1446
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: thirties and probably still the best you know, in the world,

1447
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: and the best lightweight we've ever seen, you know, one

1448
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 2: of the powerful problem best of all time. Really, Olivera

1449
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: was a not a paper champion, but but he wasn't

1450
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 2: the recognized champion for a lot of us. You know,

1451
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: I thought I favorite Poier in this fight. I thought that,

1452
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: you know, he really had to go through POORI eight

1453
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: to prove it. The manner in which he went through him.

1454
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean that second round when he took Poorier down

1455
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: and just mauled him and was like almost squasied, dirty

1456
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 2: and just mean, I mean, he took a leap this year,

1457
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: Let's never underestimate how big that win was Olivera could

1458
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: have been. It's a hipster pick, but he could have

1459
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 2: been your fighter of the Year if you'd wanted to.

1460
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: And also Luke Brandon Moreno's submission and dominance of Davison

1461
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: Figaredo needs to be uh remembered the same way.

1462
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: Also we're talking about big wins, Cambosa's defeating Lopez is

1463
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: another big win, not just a big upset, but a

1464
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: monster moment for a guy as well.

1465
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: So you can add that in there and Roses head

1466
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: kick of way Lee, which gave us the uh, you

1467
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: know you're the motherfucking best that whole great speech from

1468
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: Pap Barry and uh yep, that was That's one of

1469
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: the better feel good wins in the history of both

1470
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: of these sports. Luke, I mean, how could you. I mean,

1471
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: you're a we are a wide eyed smiling watching that.

1472
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: It was just sort of like, oh my god, what

1473
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 2: a great moment, as was you know, No to be Fair,

1474
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: as was payin Upset of new Ness. I don't remember

1475
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: ever being in an arena in like feeling as like

1476
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 2: collectively happy like we were all just It's almost like

1477
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: when you're at a concert and your favorite band comes

1478
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 2: out and plays your favorite song and just jams it

1479
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 2: for those ten minutes. You're like, never fucking saw that shit. Yeah,

1480
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: it was like that, Luke. Okay, I know you don't

1481
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: have those moments because you're Satanist. Dead bands just come

1482
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: out and play play, you know, blood curling, you know, yeah,

1483
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,799
Speaker 2: you know, trench coat wearing type music, and there's really.

1484
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: No variation curling. Are they curling?

1485
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: The blood is hurdling curdling? Yeah, I mean, it's just

1486
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: it's weird, Luke, but that's you know, that's fine. You know,

1487
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: I don't expect you to like the same things I do.

1488
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: It's what makes us different, Luke.

1489
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: All right, Coach of the Year BC, we were simpatico

1490
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: in the boxing pick. It's easy. We differed a little

1491
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: bit on the MMA side. Let's start with boxing. The

1492
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: answer is Eddie Reinoso. And who else could it even be?

1493
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell?

1494
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 2: Oh, there could be anybody.

1495
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 1: Dude.

1496
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:01,520
Speaker 2: Canelo's year alone and what Reinoso has done to consistently

1497
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 2: help him involve is amazing. But let's not forget Eddie.

1498
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: Renoso also guided Oscar Valdez to the upset of Miguel Burchell,

1499
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia passed Luke Campbell and that early thriller to

1500
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: open the year. And also Andy Ruiz juniors come back

1501
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: from the weight issues and the way he looked and

1502
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: getting dropped, but finishing Chris Aria or sorry out beating

1503
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: Chris Ariola a great win for Renos. So he is

1504
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: the best trainer in the world today. And did you

1505
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 2: like the after the Valdez steroid comments and all that

1506
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 2: stuff that Caleb Plant talk that Eddie bit down hard

1507
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 2: and was like, you know, moving forward, you guys need

1508
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: to you know. He was almost trying to implement like

1509
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 2: safeguards so that no one would ever blame him for

1510
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: his fighter's actions. This guy's legit, Luke. He's a kind

1511
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: of a chubby badass too.

1512
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: I like this guy. Chubby guy doesn't give a fuck

1513
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: what you think. It's always weird boxing has. Why does

1514
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: boxing have more chubby trainers than MMA? Like that dude Bomack,

1515
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: who's the trainer for all good He's the fattest, He's

1516
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: the fattest man on earth.

1517
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he's hilarious too. Shout out to ball Mack.

1518
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: These are great people, but they're so fat, you know.

1519
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're fat, Yeah, they are, they are, Luke. I mean,

1520
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: you know what, what is he some big, great fat person? Yeah?

1521
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus, you know what I'm saying. M m A

1522
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: has fat, has less fat trainers generally. Generally they have less.

1523
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: Fat people in general, Luke. Let's be fair, sure, all right?

1524
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: And then for a Coach of the Year, we went

1525
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: a little bit differently. Now you went with Trevor Whitman,

1526
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: who won the World MM Award this year for that

1527
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: Why how could it not be him, dude.

1528
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: I love that he keeps a small clientele three fighters,

1529
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: and all three of them are absolutely world class. For

1530
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: all we know, Justin Gatchee could have you know, he's

1531
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: on the verge of another title shot, but if things

1532
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,879
Speaker 2: are going a little differently, you could have three champions

1533
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: under his stable. The fact that he has helped Usmann

1534
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 2: evolve from already dominant to now just again on the

1535
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: verge of all time greatness, mixed with the the stuff

1536
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 2: he does with Rose, I mean how he helped her

1537
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: round out her boxing game a few years ago and

1538
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: just a complete full game, but also how he's helped

1539
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: her mentally, you know, rebuild herself. Pat Barry a big

1540
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 2: part of that camp as well. You mix that with

1541
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: his same evolution patterns, with Justin Gaetchee helping him dial

1542
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: it back a little bit and bring out the best

1543
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: of himself. This guy is next level. If you watch

1544
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,520
Speaker 2: his speech at the World MMA Awards, it was emotional.

1545
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 2: I mean he loves I mean, Luke, you gotta if

1546
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 2: you're a coach, you gotta be almost a father figure

1547
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: in a way. But he loves these folks. And the

1548
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 2: fact that again he keeps a small clientele, he's able

1549
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: to pour his blood, sweat and tears into them. Look,

1550
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:40,560
Speaker 2: you would agree the concepts he's a step ahead of most.

1551
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: Yes, he's far ahead of most. Actually not just a step,

1552
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: I would say several steps on top of it. So

1553
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: his case for it is pretty great. If you don't

1554
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of clients and then three of

1555
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: the ones you have are UFC champions, you're doing something

1556
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: right and.

1557
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: You coach the male and female Fighters of the year,

1558
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool.

1559
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even saying that like you shouldn't

1560
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: get it, you know, But I also just don't want

1561
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: to lose out of the fact I picked Eric Nixon,

1562
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: not that I think necessarily that Trevor Whitman. What he's

1563
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: doing is, you know, it's pretty close to the best

1564
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, much less this year, But I just

1565
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: want to point out Eric nixick A has a champion

1566
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: under him his stables and in Francis and Gondre number one,

1567
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: but number two he just has to do way way

1568
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: more with I'm not gonna say less in the sense

1569
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: of the fighters he has or crap. I don't mean that,

1570
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: but like he doesn't have only UFC champions. He has

1571
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: to go out there, dude. He's constantly out there with

1572
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: Belato or with UFC blah blah blah. Dude, Extreme couture

1573
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: a few years not a few years ago, but I'll

1574
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: say five or six, seven, eight years ago for sure

1575
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: was not in a great place, certainly not the place

1576
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: that it's in now. It had a great place when

1577
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 1: Randy first opened it, and then when he kind of retired,

1578
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: it just kind of fell to the side a little bit,

1579
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: and then it picked back up in a major way,

1580
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: and in no small part due to what Nixic has done.

1581
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: So like, certainly the pronounced effect that a guy like

1582
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: Trevor Woman has had cannot be denied in any way.

1583
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: But a you've got a case where Nixon has a

1584
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: champ and be the level of ability for him to

1585
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: affect at scale dozens of fighters, I think can also

1586
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: not be overlooked. It's pretty it's pretty special.

1587
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: With also shout out to James Krause, who is really

1588
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 2: coming on Luke as one of the premier elite trainers coaches.

1589
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: And also you know she took a lot of time

1590
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: off with maternity leave, but coach Littori, I see.

1591
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 1: You okay, all right, last, but not least BC Person

1592
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: of the Year. This is something you were really kind

1593
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: of passionate about. Who is your person of the year?

1594
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: If this even makes sense?

1595
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, separated? So what does it mean up front? It

1596
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 2: just means, you know, who had a great year not

1597
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 2: only in the ring or cage, but sort of also

1598
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: in how we look at them, Their their their actions,

1599
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: they're they're you know, charitable. I mean every everything comes

1600
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: in together. Who was the person of the year in

1601
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 2: bolt sport and boxing? It's an early easy pick for me,

1602
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 2: No Nito, donare age what thirty nine for him to

1603
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: have this type of renaissance comeback year in which he

1604
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: moves down in weight two weight classes, had that ridiculous

1605
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: brawl with a new way in which he showed so

1606
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: much heart a couple of years back. In this year,

1607
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: scores two knockouts, wins, back a championship at one hundred

1608
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: and eighteen pounds, and really takes a stand for so

1609
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: many things, one the better treatment between fighters. He called

1610
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: off that unification fight against John Real Casamiro because of

1611
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: the way Casamaro spoke to his wife and sort of

1612
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 2: tried his best to try to almost like Rowse a

1613
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: couple of years back during the Joanna feud, trying to

1614
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: reinstitute decor. In this he translated his most recent opponent's

1615
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: press conference. Maybe you think this is all BS, but

1616
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 2: his wife Rachel has become his trainer, his manager, and

1617
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: is really he's really gone to bat to open the

1618
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: eyes for the respect that she deserves. Just how he's

1619
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: carried himself as a gentleman, his performance in the ring

1620
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: at such a late age in the lower weight classes,

1621
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: he has been a brilliant gentleman this calendar year. I

1622
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: think he's my person of the Year. And Luke, you

1623
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: see the name there what Dustin Pourier did on the

1624
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,560
Speaker 2: MMA side. No, he didn't end up winning Fighter of

1625
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,799
Speaker 2: the Year. He would have been in that debate obviously

1626
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: with the win over Charlie Olives. But this was such

1627
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,959
Speaker 2: the breakthrough year that he deserved at the super elite

1628
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: star level. The money and fame that comes with defeeding

1629
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor twice as massive. But Luke, he really carried

1630
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: himself greatly through a lot of the darker parts of

1631
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 2: the builds to both fights, the way that he throws

1632
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 2: himself into charity, and you know, in soccer when they

1633
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: take off the jersey and swap it with the opposing

1634
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: team afterwards. He's like that in mma, which really no

1635
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: one is, you know, offering to donate to the charity

1636
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: of his opponent's choice, putting his foundation first. Across the board,

1637
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 2: he was very easy to cheer for this year, and

1638
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: I was glad that he got the close up that

1639
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 2: he did.

1640
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: Luke.

1641
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't get the belt on top, but he

1642
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 2: sort of solidified you know that he's a Hall of

1643
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: Famer in many ways. Across the board. They both get

1644
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: my nod whether you think this award is bullshit or not.

1645
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: Luke, will you try the new dustin Quarrie eight bourbon.

1646
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 2: What's it called?

1647
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: Uh, it's called rare stash.

1648
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm not a bourbon guy, Luke it it?

1649
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's like inhaling, like lighter fluid or something.

1650
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 2: But I'll try it if you want, Luke. I mean,

1651
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: I tried his Ko sauce, not the not the ghost

1652
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: Pepper one that that one will kill me. But the

1653
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: other one, Luke, it was all right.

1654
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a ghost Pepper one, but he.

1655
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: Does the the I got it right here.

1656
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,839
Speaker 1: The Ko edition, Luke, is it ghost Pepper?

1657
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 2: I think so.

1658
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a ghost pepper. Do ghost pepper

1659
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: is hot for me? And you know you're a little child.

1660
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 2: So well the real fans. Hey, didn't you tell Dustin

1661
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 2: on air that you tried the ko addition? I did?

1662
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: Luke?

1663
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: I lied. Okay, sometimes you have to lie in life

1664
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: to make people feel good. I lied in that moment.

1665
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry. I won't do that.

1666
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: All right, very quickly, since we ran a little along

1667
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: with this, let's do our two segments that we have

1668
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: that are.

1669
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 2: Look, I got nowhere to go, I got nowhere to be.

1670
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 2: Don't you dare? Don't you dare take this away from

1671
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: our people? Who are your people of the year, Luke.

1672
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: Me me, yeah, you there, you go? All right? End

1673
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: of that? All right? Segment two, Yes you and yo

1674
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: wanna Yes? My number one and number two Ariel Water,

1675
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 1: Emily Whitmeyer, Yes, come here, spit fire. You know what

1676
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, you motherfucker? All right? Segment number two.

1677
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: Segment number two BC. I was all over this one.

1678
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm a little bored with it by now, but people

1679
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: loved it. It is something Jake Paul and Dana White BC.

1680
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: They just can't stop attacking each other. We've got the tweets,

1681
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: Dana White. I guess I'm not sure who taunted who

1682
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 1: first at this point, but here comes Jake Paul, happy

1683
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: to your Danna. Why, here's a real challenge for you.

1684
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: I will immediately retire from boxing and fight Horry Maswell

1685
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 1: and UFC if you agree to it was a series

1686
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: of demands like pay your fighters fifty percent, make the

1687
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 1: minimum base pay fifty k instead of twelve, blah blah

1688
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You can. I'm sure all of us

1689
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: have seen it at this point, so Dana, oh no,

1690
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 1: So was this some response to Dana saying if you

1691
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: let me steroid test you for two years, you can

1692
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: cocaine test me for ten.

1693
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 2: Yes.

1694
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: Then Jake Paul puts out creamy or if I'm wrong,

1695
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: Brian another video on top of this where just street fair.

1696
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: Here he puts out the first demand. Dana comes back

1697
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: with a video Luke, I'm shocked that Dana responded. I

1698
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 2: think the move here knowing like Jake Paul's a master troll,

1699
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: love him or hate him. And by the way, this

1700
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 2: ordeal has brought a million comments on Twitter. If people

1701
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 2: be going, I can't believe I'm opening twenty twenty two

1702
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 2: loving Jake Paul and supporting him based on this. I

1703
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: know Dana can be a villain at times. He came

1704
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 2: at Dana. The fact that Dana put out a response,

1705
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: you know, a response, shows you that he was rattled.

1706
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 2: Whether you think this is BS or not, Luke, correct

1707
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. Dana did not address any of

1708
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: the the demands or the mentions about fighter pay. In fact,

1709
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: his comment really was like, if you think you, if

1710
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 2: you and Nikisha think you can run a better promotion,

1711
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 2: why don't you know you and my former accountant, why

1712
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 2: don't you go do that? That's not addressing it. So

1713
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: that's almost advantaged Jake right there. Of course, Dana saying,

1714
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 2: if you think I'm on coke, I don't use cocaine,

1715
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 2: Why don't I steroid test you? Luke, That's a hard

1716
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: stance for my advantage point, because I'm of the belief

1717
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 2: that all of our heroes in both sports are more

1718
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: likely on the juice than not my personal taken out

1719
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: of this show or this network. But Jake's response to

1720
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,520
Speaker 2: that video, which you're seeing right here, Luke it's an evisceration.

1721
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you're Dana, you may have to

1722
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 2: put your tail between your legs and run away. We've

1723
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,759
Speaker 2: seen Dana back down before when Brendan Chaub came out swinging.

1724
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: You don't want to get into a troll war with

1725
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: this guy because this is what he does. Love him

1726
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 2: or hate him. This was a heavyweight response from Jake. Yeah,

1727
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: it's all bs back and forth. Okay, do you believe

1728
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 2: him when he says, look at me, I'm fat, I'm

1729
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 2: not on steroids. But he's essentially coming out now and

1730
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 2: just going adam about Dana's avoidance on Fighter pay, playing

1731
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: up the cocaine thing. I know you said you're over it,

1732
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: but I think that's a little strong, Luke. This was

1733
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: actually pretty damn well done.

1734
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: No, no, it's extreme. But when I say I'm over it,

1735
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm over them beefing. Like I don't get

1736
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: a ton of joy from that at this point. But

1737
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: you're right, like this was. I mean, here's what just

1738
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: sort of tells you about like the nature of the

1739
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: UFC brass and their current state of things, like do

1740
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: they like at least at least in the case of

1741
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: Dana White. He can't argue for his position against someone

1742
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: who is even remotely aware of the facts, right, I mean,

1743
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: like I think about what he often does at this point,

1744
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 1: Like he used to go on a lot of different media.

1745
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't do that anymore. He goes to hand pick

1746
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 1: media that he knows they're not going to ask any

1747
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: difficult questions, usually some big, you know, mainstream media ones.

1748
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: But you know, Jim Romain asking him shit about fight

1749
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: or pay in any kind of like serious way. Right,

1750
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: it's not what he's gonna do. Pat McAfee, same thing.

1751
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: Great shows. I'll I listen to him both, but they're

1752
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: not they're not going to do that, right, So there's that.

1753
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 1: So then I'm.

1754
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: Actually listened to Pat. You would know it's pronounced McAfee luke,

1755
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: just just a fair.

1756
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 1: Racafee whatever I listen. I've watched clips on YouTube. Fine, Okay,

1757
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: there you go. But the point being is this nothing.

1758
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: He doesn't get pushed that way. The media that they

1759
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: handpick doesn't really get pushed in any kind of way.

1760
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: They're used to just saying things and people accepting them.

1761
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: But Jake Paul doesn't play that game. And like, if

1762
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: you actually want to have a This is what I

1763
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: keep telling, dude. The debate about fighter pay is not

1764
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: hard to have. It's very very simple, straightforward, relatively easy.

1765
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: Some of the more complex economic arguments about monopoly, those

1766
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: are a little bit obviously, you know, above most people's

1767
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: pay grades, including my own. But the basic sort of

1768
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: gist of things is not that difficult to grasp, and

1769
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: Jake Paul is unencumbered by any of the other things

1770
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: that the UFC world use this North Korea like situation

1771
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: to like this to tamp down and then eliminate dissent.

1772
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: But Jake Paul doesn't play about these rules.

1773
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: This was an interesting move from Jake at the end

1774
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 2: where he essentially said, like everyone's afraid of you, but

1775
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm the only one that doesn't need you. Your fighters

1776
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 2: can't can't counter because you'll just bench them. You know,

1777
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm the one speaking out for them. Okay, he's trying

1778
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: to do a Robin Hood thing and some degree bringing

1779
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: attention to fight or pay and all that look is

1780
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 2: you can open the door and say, okay, sure, come

1781
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 2: on in, retire from boxing, take on Ore Modsvidal. No,

1782
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 2: they're not gonna bend to this troll's public comments and

1783
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: start paying the fighters what they deserve. But it is

1784
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 2: interesting a that Dana responded, be that he didn't address

1785
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: any of the key issues at all, and see that

1786
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: he's kind of allowing this to play on and get

1787
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 2: kind of embarrassed. Right now, Luke, you could brush this

1788
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 2: off as nothing. I get that right, it's just trash

1789
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: talk back and forth. Will this go anywhere? Meaning do

1790
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 2: you think it actually can help the fighter's cause? Or again,

1791
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: does it unless they're gonna mobilize and put you know,

1792
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: and join forces in a non byord revenue type of way,

1793
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 2: nothing will ever change because Jake, you could argue, Jake

1794
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: has a pretty big audience and they're non fight fans,

1795
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: So if he's bringing this to the attention of a

1796
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: lot of people, the momentum is there to do something

1797
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 2: with it. Do you think the momentum will continue it all.

1798
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't think the fighters will do shit with it.

1799
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: I think that they're very much afraid, and I think

1800
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: some of them have Stockholm syndrome. The idea that like, well,

1801
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 1: one of the fighters going to get together and do

1802
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: something I never probably is the answer. I wouldn't wait

1803
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: on that. But what I do think is kind of interesting.

1804
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: Is you're right, like Jake is everyone kind of feel

1805
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: I feel like gets this wrong. Everyone's like, oh, Jake's

1806
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: not proposing anything particular, Like he's not proposing the Ali

1807
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: Act going MMA, he's not proposing a union. He's just

1808
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: shitting on pay Well number one. He's not attempting to

1809
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: lead a revolt, so he doesn't need to be all

1810
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: that specific. He's just having a war of words with

1811
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: another guy. Moreover, here's what he actually can do, dude.

1812
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: If he keeps beating this drum, more and more people

1813
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: are going to be paying attention, and a lot of

1814
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: people who might hear his message might also just you know, say, well,

1815
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't care if the UFC pays fighters low. It

1816
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything to me. But here's the interesting part, Like,

1817
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,799
Speaker 1: you keep rattling this cage that's happening, you'd be surprised

1818
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: who might catch wind of it, including state and federal

1819
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: regulators who may have an issue with the fact that

1820
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 1: allegedly fighters are underpaid. You just don't want to drum

1821
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 1: up this kind of attention if you can avoid it,

1822
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: which is your point I think is quite correct, which

1823
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 1: is like, why does Dana keep trying to play the

1824
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: dozens with people A he can't play the dozens with

1825
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: and B around an issue that does nothing but make

1826
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: you look bad and has the capacity to raise the

1827
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: alarm of regulators. It's like, dude, you don't want to

1828
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: do this. If you look at previous FTC investigations in

1829
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: any industry, a lot of it comes from the fact

1830
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: that media will raise reports about some kind of industry

1831
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 1: not acting above board, and that's how they end up

1832
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: getting involved. You want to run that risk by getting

1833
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: involved with Jake Paul, who's a YouTuber like it just

1834
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: it's like, it's not just an l Brian, but why

1835
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: does he keep signing up for them? I don't understand.

1836
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 2: What do you take if you're into the soap opera?

1837
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: Silacious part of it, Dana calling Nikisa Bendarian. I think

1838
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 2: it's how you pronounce it.

1839
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's our meaning or something.

1840
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 3: Well.

1841
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 2: Used to be the CFO of the Damn UFC, then

1842
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 2: it was part of the sale, and then became what

1843
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 2: the chief financial head of the Fortita Brothers operation. I

1844
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 2: don't know how his relationship there ended, Luke, but it's

1845
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: interesting that Dana called him made fun of his looks

1846
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 2: called him an accountant the world, and then part of

1847
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 2: Jake's counter video was showing a little DM exchange between

1848
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 2: him and the KISA. I think there's there's a story there,

1849
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 2: at least I know you and I requested an interview

1850
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 2: with Nikisa when we were in Tampa doing the uh

1851
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 2: the public workout, and he politely turned us down. But

1852
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: I'd like to hear a little bit more on that, Luke.

1853
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 2: But does he know some certain secrets here?

1854
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: Uh?

1855
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 2: You know, where's this going here?

1856
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 1: I know it's like, dude, the guy you fire. Oh,

1857
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if he fired him. Actually I don't

1858
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: know what happened, but I don't know at all. Yeah, yeah,

1859
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that. I don't even know how he split.

1860
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: But I'm pointing out the guy who doesn't work for

1861
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: you anymore, like he was good enough to be literally

1862
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: your CFO, and now he's just a warlock accountant. Like

1863
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: you just can't take any of this shit seriously, the

1864
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 1: guy with CFO for a while during perhaps the most

1865
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: important transaction in the company's history, Like, you know, does

1866
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: he have all the right ideas? Nobody does. I'm sure

1867
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: there's plenty of things you can bring up about him

1868
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: that aren't great, but you know, this idea that he's

1869
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 1: some kind of rank amateur. That's what Dana why doesn't understand.

1870
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 1: They've convinced themselves that, like their decision making is so

1871
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 1: good that they can't possibly think about things in the

1872
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: wrong way or be off on an issue. And it's like, dude,

1873
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: Jake Paul, I don't know about his you know, total abilities,

1874
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: and Nikisa I don't know much about him either, But

1875
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: they're not rank amateurs, like they got to this point,

1876
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: not by accident. On some level. You have to respect that,

1877
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: and you have to at least be especially if you

1878
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: want to go to war with them, you definitely have

1879
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: to respect that. And he just doesn't. They seem to

1880
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: be huffing their own farts here a little bit.

1881
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 2: They are, And maybe Dana's too successful now and doesn't

1882
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: really take l so he doesn't not accounter. But his

1883
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 2: troll game has slipped, Luke, And part of it, I

1884
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 2: think is we're in a different era. He can't come

1885
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 2: out with an exblis explictive laced misogynists response video like

1886
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 2: you would do to Loretta Hunt back in the day,

1887
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 2: or come out and call everybody you know the F word,

1888
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 2: and and you know homophobic like he would do back

1889
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 2: in the day. If you're a new fan of the

1890
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: UFC and you have no idea how Dana used to

1891
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: publicly ran against journalists that would anger him, I mean

1892
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 2: back in the day, Luke love him or hate him.

1893
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: He came after it. I don't think he's got that

1894
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 2: same ability anymore.

1895
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 1: He never had that ability, dude, Dana White can't and

1896
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: no one over that company. They can't debate. They can

1897
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 1: only issue edicts, They issue pronouncements, they issue declarations, and

1898
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: they do it because the MMA industry just loves power, right,

1899
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: So you don't have to win an argument in MMA.

1900
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: If you have a lot of power, if you have

1901
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 1: a lot of status, doesn't matter if you're right, if

1902
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 1: you're wrong, or if the person who has no status

1903
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: is totally right or wrong. What only matters is the

1904
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: power dynamic. They got used to that, They got used

1905
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: to just saying, oh, we'll just say shit and people

1906
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 1: will just accept it. But then Jake comes wrong and

1907
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't have to accept any of this

1908
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: shit and doesn't. And they don't really know how to

1909
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: do that deal with that except just just stop engaging

1910
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 1: with him.

1911
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 2: I mean, this ain't Oscar de la Hoya in terms

1912
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 2: of one sided data public rants. You know this is

1913
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 2: this is somebody who can spar with him. So it's

1914
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 2: whether you hate it or love and it's interesting.

1915
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, last topic. I did see the highlights

1916
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter, so I've done my prep. But I know

1917
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: our and this is why I didn't do it, because

1918
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: I know our audience doesn't care. But there was a

1919
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 1: big heavyweight fight, the Cuban monster Luis Ortiz taking on

1920
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: Charles Martin. Martin drops him twice pc but then has

1921
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: the worst weirdest KO of the year on the first

1922
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: day of the new year.

1923
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 2: More to come from this, and have you seen this

1924
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 2: hit in terms of highlights, But Luke, here's the deal.

1925
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: This was, in fairness, the worst, one of the worst

1926
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 2: on paper pay per views in boxing history. I don't

1927
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 2: know what PBC on Fox was thinking, but you know what,

1928
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 2: it was a pretty damn exciting card. There were five

1929
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 2: heavyweight fights. They gave us some crazy wars, some wack

1930
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 2: of donas. Frank Sanchez Canello's buddy, the unbeaten heavyweight may

1931
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 2: have been boring, but he looked fantastic, and then we

1932
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 2: saw Luis Ortiz. Luke, people debate his age. Is he

1933
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 2: forty two ors he fifty five. He's definitely slipped from

1934
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 2: his prime in those two w Deontay Wilder Ko losses

1935
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,839
Speaker 2: where he was ahead on the cards and boxing beautifully

1936
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 2: before getting stopped late. But he could still throw, Luke,

1937
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: he can still pop even though his legs aren't there.

1938
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: I thought it was a little bit concerning that Ortiz

1939
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: got dropped twice early from Charles Martlin, who's not a

1940
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 2: huge puncher, even though the broadcast tried to convey that

1941
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 2: he was, and he got dropped on basically jabs Luke.

1942
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 2: Louis Ortiz was not looking good for a while, but

1943
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 2: once he poured it on, he got the finish. This

1944
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: should get him a big fight, whether it's Andy Ruis

1945
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: Junior or you know, we'll see who else. But I'll

1946
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 2: say this, they should have put this on regular TV. Heck,

1947
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 2: they could have put this on Christmas Night. I don't

1948
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 2: know if you noticed, Luke. We didn't talk about it,

1949
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: but PBC on Fox had a Christmas Night card with

1950
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 2: like eighteen year old Vito mel Nicky in the main event,

1951
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: who by the Way went to same high school as

1952
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 2: our documentarian Jake Roseman. Shout out to Jersey There. That card, Luke,

1953
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 2: because it followed the NFL game did something like four

1954
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 2: and a half million viewers. This card would have done gangbusters.

1955
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 2: It was incredible he had. It was on pay per view,

1956
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 2: so a little bittersweet since it was fun to watch.

1957
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 2: It was sloppy, it was it was heavyweight action. Let's

1958
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 2: see Louis Ortiz one more time, Luke. Do you ever

1959
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 2: see this guy winning a title or just being an

1960
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 2: out photo a big name again?

1961
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I'm mostly candidly between you and me

1962
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 1: since no one else is listening, I don't really care,

1963
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 1: but I can just be honest. Okay, I do think

1964
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:11,799
Speaker 1: he can. I'll say this, if they made a Luis

1965
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 1: Ortiz Andy Ruiz fight, I think Ruiz's handspeed and volume

1966
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 1: might give him some trouble, but that would be an

1967
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 1: interesting contest. I'll say that Ortiz.

1968
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 2: Can still box. He's slower, but I think his legs

1969
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 2: not being as quick Luke is going to be an

1970
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 2: issue for him.

1971
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 1: But we'll see. Yes it is, but he does have

1972
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: good timing still, He's got good reads. You know he

1973
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 1: can still be a problem for people. All right, b See,

1974
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: that's it for us talking to each other. Now it's

1975
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: time for the audience to ask us questions. It is

1976
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 1: time for dms from the Dignity.

1977
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:53,919
Speaker 4: Dogs Hee haw okay from at Jose Underscore turd bro jesus,

1978
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 4: what are your guys's New Year's resolutions?

1979
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 2: Comma, Daddy's guys guys, geyser old faithful, you got any

1980
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 2: New Year's resolutions? I try to avoid this type of stuff, Luke. Obviously,

1981
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 2: you and I both want to take better care of ourselves.

1982
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 2: So what I did early morning January. First, I got

1983
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 2: on the peloton, Luke. Had been a long time since

1984
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 2: I rock and rolled, and every time I do that,

1985
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 2: for some reason, I can't sleep at night because my

1986
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 2: legs are throbbing and pain. Maybe I just need more Advil.

1987
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 2: But yes, I am one of those people that need

1988
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 2: to get it. I gotta get this face you know,

1989
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 2: this face off, remember Travolta face off. I gotta get

1990
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta get healthy again, Luke. Okay, I

1991
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 2: think I've been unfair to my liver over the last month. Yes,

1992
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get in shape. I'm trying to find more

1993
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 2: balance in my life, Luke. My therapist is trying to

1994
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 2: help me develop better boundaries in all of my relationships,

1995
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 2: from family to professional, maybe even including you, Luke. Do

1996
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 2: I talk about you in therapy? No, I will if

1997
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 2: I want to, though, Luke, those are really what I'm

1998
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 2: looking at, trying to be a better person, trying to

1999
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 2: turn off from work at night, which is hard to

2000
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 2: do when you live and work in the same house,

2001
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 2: sometimes in the same room. Luke, it's hard to do that.

2002
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do that. That's my damn resolution for

2003
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 2: this year.

2004
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got a few resolutions. One is health

2005
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 1: and fitness related, and then another one is sort of

2006
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: I got a bunch too. I got a bunch of

2007
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: work related ones. Like a Columbia tradition that my wife

2008
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: and I do for New Year's is when it strikes midnight,

2009
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: you have twelve grapes and you have to make twelve

2010
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: wishes or one per grape, and you have to eat

2011
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 1: them like right at the stroke of midnight. It's this

2012
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 1: whole thing. So I had like twelve different wishes related

2013
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: to this show, related to my private life, all kinds

2014
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: of stuff. But I'm just not gonna tell you, guys,

2015
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 1: any of them here, but there are They are real.

2016
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: They are real.

2017
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 2: Tune into Luke's live chat for more.

2018
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 1: I think right, yes, I'll tell you all of them

2019
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: there actually all right from at legendary third leg. Wow,

2020
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 1: everyone talking about their turns and dicks today? This is great?

2021
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: All right? BC is Antonio Brown, Jake Paul's next opponent.

2022
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,480
Speaker 1: For folks who missed the Bucks and fucking Jets game yesterday,

2023
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown just said, fuck it, I'm out, took off

2024
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 1: his pads, his fucking rash guard, chucked it on the sidelines,

2025
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 1: chuck some of it to the fans, and just walk

2026
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: the fuck out Jerry Maguire style, BC, What do you think?

2027
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 2: Like, like, fuck you? Fuck you? You're cool? You know,

2028
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:16,560
Speaker 2: come out? Look, that's what like. Obviously there's some concerning

2029
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 2: fuel behind what he did, and he's had a few

2030
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 2: of these moments in his square, not on this level,

2031
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 2: but he's had some endings of some bad professional relationships before.

2032
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 2: It was really hard not to just laugh and be amused.

2033
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 2: This was an all time sort of like mid game. Look,

2034
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 2: it's funny. I can't say the guy's name, but I

2035
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 2: used to play high school wreck basketball in the very

2036
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 2: serious league, and I had a teammate who when he

2037
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 2: would fall out, he would he would take his jersey off,

2038
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 2: go into the other team's locker room and you'd hear

2039
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 2: him like banging shit and throwing stuff all around, come

2040
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 2: back out, go up into the crowd, and then heckle

2041
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 2: our team, and the coach never did anything about it.

2042
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 2: This guy was a maniac. It kind of shows you

2043
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 2: what kind of town on it. It was a very

2044
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 2: that type of moment. I've never seen this on the

2045
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 2: professional level, Luke. I saw Tom Brady's very professional sponse

2046
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 2: of obviously he's having issues. We're hoping to support him.

2047
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 2: But look, how do you even explain that.

2048
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: He's had problems for a while, dude, I mean he

2049
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 1: had He's been accused of multiple people being a bad

2050
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 1: business dealer. Like the reason he got ratted out about

2051
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,719
Speaker 1: his vaccine card was because he didn't pay a chef,

2052
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 1: a personal chef, ten grand, and so they just ratted

2053
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 1: him out. Like he's got all kinds of fucking things

2054
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: he's dealing with, to say nothing of whatever other issues

2055
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,759
Speaker 1: beyond just that he's got two women claimed that he had,

2056
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:33,679
Speaker 1: you know, inappropriately touched them like. He's just never faced

2057
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 1: any consequences. I think his connection to football was tenuous.

2058
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: Some coach probably told him something he didn't like and

2059
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 1: he just said, you know what, fuck it, Straw broke

2060
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 1: the camel's back. But bro, he's he's a mess. He's

2061
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,879
Speaker 1: a complete fucking mess. So he might fight Jake Paul's answer, Yes, yeah.

2062
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 2: O for Luke, I saw that debate. Is he a

2063
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.

2064
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: Luke Antonio Brown.

2065
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 2: No, He's had some great years with Pittsburgh, but yeah

2066
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 2: he's been here.

2067
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, some sick. He's a fucking dude. Antonio Brown's ability

2068
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 1: never been an issue, never been an issue. Everything else

2069
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: has been the issue. Al Right, would you like.

2070
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 2: Would you would do you dream? Maybe like you didn't

2071
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 2: end vox like that, but you dream. We all dream

2072
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 2: of a moment like that, right.

2073
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 1: Luke, of like seeing what exactly.

2074
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 2: Of saying goodbye to a bad situation, whether it's a

2075
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:22,679
Speaker 2: job or a relationship or something.

2076
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: And just there's definitely some folks I used to work

2077
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: with who I would love to like. It's too late

2078
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 1: now I've been out of work with them for two

2079
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: and a half years. But yeah, there's a few things

2080
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: I'd like to say.

2081
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, during some dark times at ESPN, even I used

2082
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,879
Speaker 2: to be like I used to fantasize about like quitting

2083
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 2: on Twitter in the most disastrous way and just like

2084
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 2: revealing inner secrets and just being like f off. But

2085
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 2: you know that's that's that'll that'll catch up with you quick. Look,

2086
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 2: you'll never work again.

2087
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 1: It's fine, yeah, uh okay from at Yeah, I know.

2088
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 1: And the other part too, is like I don't want future,

2089
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, like even CBS, let's say I resigned with them,

2090
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 1: Like do I want them to see me like just

2091
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: blasting old people people I used to work with all

2092
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 1: the time. Like I've had a couple of things I've

2093
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: had to say, but you gotta let it go at

2094
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 1: some point too, all right, right now, last, but not least,

2095
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 1: there's actually three more at b Wardle thirty three. Did

2096
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 1: either of you listen to doctor Robert Malone on JR E.

2097
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 1: If so, thoughts BC? Did you? I did not.

2098
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 2: I don't know who doctor Robert Malone is, Luke.

2099
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 1: Tell me this is the gentleman, if my memory is correct,

2100
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 1: who is the inventor behind mRNA technology? But I don't,

2101
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: you know, I'm you know, just based on what Joe

2102
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: has had on his show during the pandemic, I'm guessing

2103
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: it's also somebody who did not challenge his worldview, but

2104
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:40,839
Speaker 1: I could be Look, would you agree?

2105
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not here to disparage Joe or

2106
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 2: make high jokes for all that, but like, would you

2107
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Speaker 2: agree that where he was at the at the peak

2108
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 2: with the Elon Musk interview, and it was like, God,

2109
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 2: it's must see every time he interviews on anyone got

2110
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas is on there, it's must see where he

2111
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 2: is now, it's like night and day.

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Speaker 1: See, I don't know, I've never been a big I've

2113
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,879
Speaker 1: heard he has put out there. This is the situation

2114
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: that he has, right, he has so much content. Like

2115
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 1: even the conversation I did with him was fucking three

2116
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 1: and a half hours. I don't think I've ever listened

2117
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: to myself talk for three and a half Who the

2118
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:14,560
Speaker 1: fuck wants to listen to me for three and a

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Speaker 1: half hours? Nobody, Well, just.

2120
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 2: Coworkers who are hoping to hair a shout out.

2121
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 1: Potentially potentially And you probably waited till the extra credits

2122
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: and everything, but your name just did not appear. But

2123
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 1: you know in all seriousness, like I will listen to

2124
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 1: Joe's show when I literally can. I literally can. He'll

2125
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 1: have a guest on that I'll like whoever. I remember

2126
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: one time I took my dogs walking. He had James

2127
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Hetfield on, and I remember I took my dogs walking

2128
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 1: for two hours and they were only in the portion

2129
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 1: of a conversation where James Hedfield was talking about bee keeping.

2130
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: It's like, motherfucker, I don't care about his bees. Tell

2131
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 1: me about the Nightcliff Burton died on the Black Ice Man.

2132
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: What the fuck you know? So like, there's just so

2133
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 1: much of it. I can't. I just can't keep up.

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01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 1: So like, are you suggesting what like he's it seems

2135
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 1: to me as relevant as ever. Are you saying he's phone.

2136
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm not suggesting even the quality of the shows,

2137
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 2: because I don't. I don't listen anymore. It just it

2138
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 2: just sort of happened. I stopped listening and not I

2139
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 2: didn't purposely, but I just feel like the public like

2140
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 2: like there was like he was on top of the

2141
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 2: world in terms of like a mascot for coolness in

2142
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 2: guys our age, and now he's sort of like extreme

2143
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 2: half boomer, half conspiracy half.

2144
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 1: He definitely say this. I don't know about it. I

2145
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: don't know about his show, but on Instagram he definitely

2146
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 1: posts a lot of boomer memes like it's the year

2147
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: twenty forty and you have you have two thousand genders

2148
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,600
Speaker 1: and you can't say thank you're anymore? Like, won't that

2149
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 1: be a sad world? It's like, oh, okay, show light

2150
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: up a little bit.

2151
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 2: Just that weird ig post the other day about how

2152
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 2: he discovered cooking meat over an open fire and how

2153
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 2: he mentally prepep preps for it. It's like, Bro, we've

2154
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 2: been doing this shit from the beginning.

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01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: Man, come, yeah, eating meat, That's that's what happens when

2156
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 1: you eat meat, just like that. You know, Yeah, I

2157
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 1: don't know, you know. Maybe he was Listen, I can't

2158
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 1: find the keys to my car when I've had too

2159
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 1: many Delta eight gummies. I'm not in a position to Joe.

2160
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 2: Our Guyshot's got some explaining to do on it, too.

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01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: Okay, listen, let he who is a monk sinning with

2162
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 1: I cast the first stone. I'm I'm not better. I'm

2163
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm just noticing, all right, from L

2164
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 1: excuse me, r L I two cool six worst name ever? Luke,

2165
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,799
Speaker 1: how did the new pull up bar do? So? My

2166
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 1: my wife PC Rogue. Do you know Rogue Fitness?

2167
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 2: I don't know them, but I did see this post

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01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 2: your reference.

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01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: Well, the Rogue Fitness you might know them. They're the

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Speaker 1: ones that do like make most of the equipment and

2171
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 1: are kind of behind the CrossFit games. That's not quite true,

2172
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: but they make all the weights on the plate. They

2173
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: make all they make. They make gym equipment for gyms,

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01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 1: but also for a lot of homes as well. They're

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01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 1: may be the biggest name in fitness and CrossFit and

2176
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 1: they make bars and everything. They make a pull up

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01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: bar called if you guys want to know, it's called

2178
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 1: the Rogue jam or pullup bar. Basically works like you

2179
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 1: would put up a TV. You actually put a mount

2180
01:40:58,120 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: on your wall and then the bar mounts to the

2181
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 1: know the way most bull bars work. If you go

2182
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 1: to your gym or something, they'll probably have it inside

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01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 1: of a rack somewhere. But if it's attached to the

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01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,759
Speaker 1: wall BC they come off sometimes two or three feet

2185
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: because you need space to swing underneath the bar. Well,

2186
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 1: if you're next to a door jam, you can't do that.

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01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 1: So what they want to do is they do put

2188
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 1: it on the door jam but they the whole idea

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01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 1: or a wall, I should say, but the whole idea

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01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 1: is the rogue jammer bar only comes off about eight inches,

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01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 1: but you put it over your door, so if you

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Speaker 1: have to swing, you can. You know, I'm not talking

2193
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 1: heavy swinging, you know, like fucking Tarzan, but you know

2194
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 1: normal swinging through pulling. Dude, it's great. I tried it.

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01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:38,719
Speaker 1: I you know, we put it, We use the stud finder,

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01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 1: put in the studs. We checked it out, you know,

2197
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 1: like I even put some weights on myself, so I

2198
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,640
Speaker 1: had over three hundred pounds on my body as I

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Speaker 1: was pulling it. And it worked. It didn't. It does

2200
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 1: creak a little bit, BC, and that gives me the hebgb's.

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01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: It does creak, but it works.

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01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 2: The only stud finder I need is my mirror. Luke.

2203
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 2: The first thing I saw I thought when I fucked

2204
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 2: idiot all that ig post was I love you, Luke,

2205
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 2: but that wall is not going to support you. Like,

2206
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:05,839
Speaker 2: are you confident you're not gonna do damage?

2207
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 1: Am I confident? Mostly?

2208
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 2: Better put that house on the market before you do it?

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Speaker 1: Look okay, all right, last, but not least from Scully,

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01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 1: It's me, what are the chances you guys do a

2211
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 1: live show on the Capitol Steps on January sixth? I

2212
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: don't think it will be anywhere fucking near the Capital

2213
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: Steps on January sixth.

2214
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 2: Well, we'll have some good guests, meaning Pat Militici in

2215
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 2: half of the MMA world to probably be there, Luke.

2216
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 1: But uh, you know what, it turns out that insurrections

2217
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: are a great time to do in in studio interviews

2218
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 1: because all of your favorite fighters are in town.

2219
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,640
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure all of our fans will be

2220
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 2: there to be a great live show. But no, Luke,

2221
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 2: one of our to circle back, one of our resolutions

2222
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 2: that we've talked about at nauseum is returning to our

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01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 2: brand new studio. Not only has the fine folks at

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01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 2: Malka in showtime redesigned our studio, which we hope to

2225
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 2: debut what next week is it next week, they will

2226
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 2: also be moving the entire studio down the road in

2227
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 2: this in this calendar year, so big more space for us,

2228
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 2: big things to come from that regard, and I think

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01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 2: you'll agree, Luke. While it's to some degree and this

2230
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 2: is where I do thank Jason Aaron, the guy that

2231
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 2: you refuse to mention his name at all unless it's disparaging.

2232
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 2: We made a a quicker, easier and more technologically sound

2233
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 2: transition to the pandemic with this show than most, and

2234
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 2: I give our staff a lot of credit for that,

2235
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,799
Speaker 2: even though yes, we still have painfully crippling tech issues

2236
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 2: on the regular. Come at me, I'm here. I will say, Luke,

2237
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 2: that that is a big resolution and goal. I want

2238
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 2: this show to be taken more seriously from the things

2239
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 2: that we do seriously, and I think that studio will

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Speaker 2: really do it for us. Luke, let's button up and

2241
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 2: bring it, dude.

2242
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. That's it for us.

2243
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 2: Let's speaking of taking things seriously, Luke, we have a

2244
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 2: segment every week where we scour the globe for the

2245
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 2: highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, the

2246
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:08,639
Speaker 2: in between, in combat sports and beyond. It's a viral

2247
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 2: video show called have you seen the Ship? H alrighty,

2248
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 2: Luke PBC on Fox pay per view from South Florida.

2249
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 2: Let's say it right here. Did you see Luis Ortiz's

2250
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 2: finish a former champion Charles Martin? He got up off

2251
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 2: the canvas twice. This was as wild an ending to

2252
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 2: a fight as we've seen in some time. Look at

2253
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 2: that big left, he's he's on queer straight, Luke.

2254
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: He did he did the Frank Gore bit where he's

2255
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 1: just like wow, you.

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01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 2: Know, oh god, there's a brutal ending. I don't know

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01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:41,639
Speaker 2: if you can see it there, Luke.

2258
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 1: But his got his love got trapped.

2259
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 2: As Joe Goosen said on the broadcast, correctlly, So that's

2260
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 2: a one in the million result to get your arm

2261
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 2: hooked in the ropes to which you can't even get out.

2262
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 2: It actually bought Martin time, Luke. The fight could have

2263
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 2: been stopped right here, but they didn't. The referee took

2264
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 2: Frank Santori took some time. Here's an alternate view to

2265
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 2: actually see what happened. Martin looked out. I mean, he

2266
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 2: was getting battered. It probably should have been waved off.

2267
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 1: He was out.

2268
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody has ever seen this before, Luke. In fact,

2269
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 2: the only combat sports equivalent of this is uh is

2270
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 2: on our next slide. Yes, yes, look, yes, yeah, good

2271
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 2: old Andre's done. That used to be a part of

2272
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 2: his routine to get caught like that. But I've never

2273
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 2: seen that in boxing. That was a wild finish.

2274
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 1: Got it here pro wrestling.

2275
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 2: Dude, can you imagine sitting next to Andrea on the airplane.

2276
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's get on the undercard. Look this Victor

2277
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 2: Faust versus Iago Kladse fight had five knockdowns in two rounds.

2278
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 2: Look at this batshit crazy action that the folks at

2279
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 2: PBC on Fox give us. That's Coladse. He got dropped,

2280
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 2: he gets up. I mean this card again, it was

2281
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 2: questionable in terms of purchase, but it delivered. It delivered craziness.

2282
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 1: O caught in between punches that was nice.

2283
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 2: Nice yeah, and then it kept going here. I don't

2284
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 2: know how much longer this goes, but.

2285
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 1: They just kept This was a long slide.

2286
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 2: There we go, plenty of seats still available, but Twitter

2287
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 2: was on fire from this all. And then he gets

2288
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,799
Speaker 2: dropped again. It was pretty wild, Luke. Eventually the referee

2289
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 2: would would would uh call an endo the action around

2290
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 2: two in which what was somewhat of a questionable stoppage.

2291
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 2: I think we'll see it coming up here. Whow another

2292
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: drop there is? Faust goes down again. Can we advance

2293
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 2: the slide to the ending of this fight?

2294
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 1: This is you and me trying to finish the first

2295
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 1: rooms not room service, but the first pregame preview.

2296
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 2: So look, the ref sees coladse stumbling, he calls it off.

2297
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 2: Did you see Kladze counter the ref with a short

2298
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 2: right hand?

2299
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know he see what the ref does. The

2300
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:51,640
Speaker 1: ref actually calls him to walk towards him. That's a

2301
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 1: common thing you'll see referees do. They'll say walk to me,

2302
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 1: and he tries to walk to him and does it

2303
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 1: off to the side. Yeah, of course he had to

2304
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 1: stop it. He had no choice. That's going to get.

2305
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 2: Fined and probably suspended. Look at this, Luke, you don't

2306
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:03,879
Speaker 2: punch your ref in the face, right.

2307
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know, Veto long Car it

2308
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 1: was that his name.

2309
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 2: Here's a close up of it.

2310
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 1: Luke.

2311
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,520
Speaker 2: Ah, that's not good. That's not good. That's not good.

2312
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 1: You know. Listen, these guys get frustrated. You can hit referees.

2313
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 2: It's all good, bro Okay, all right, hey, let's keep

2314
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,799
Speaker 2: it going, Luke. Remember this name on the undercard lightweight

2315
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 2: Frank Martin is fifteen and oh he's the south Paw

2316
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 2: in the white shorts. Oh, the lightweight division.

2317
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: Saw this on Twitter as well.

2318
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that lightweight division, as we know, has already loaded,

2319
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 2: maybe the best division in the game top to bottom

2320
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 2: and boxing. But but this guy, Frank Martin's coming, He's coming, Luke.

2321
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, one thirty five is and one thirty as well.

2322
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: But one thirty five is exciting as shit, Luke.

2323
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 2: I didn't watch this on Saturday because I don't watch

2324
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 2: this anymore, but it has an MMA tie in. Here's

2325
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 2: the pay per view from WWE called Day one, and

2326
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:54,919
Speaker 2: here's Bobby Lashley, Spear and Brock Lesner into the support

2327
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 2: system there, Luke, who would win in an MMA fight

2328
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:58,759
Speaker 2: between these two right now?

2329
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 1: Not brock hair? Why does Brock have a haircut from

2330
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 1: the four non blonde video? Aaron As said, Dude, I'll

2331
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 1: say this.

2332
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,639
Speaker 2: Lashley still yoked a shit, Luke. Was he like forty six?

2333
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 2: He's a I mean he is just.

2334
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:18,560
Speaker 1: Jacked, probably just from asparagus, you know, just asparagus and

2335
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 1: just working out and getting good night's sleep.

2336
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 2: I think Brock regained the title because Roman Rains had

2337
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 2: COVID and I don't. I don't really watch anymore.

2338
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: Get a fuck is really the question?

2339
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go back to that PBC pay per view

2340
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 2: pump for pound. King Canelo OVAs showed up Luke in

2341
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 2: attendance here in South Florida to support his teammate Frank

2342
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 2: Sanchez and Luke, he's wearing the damn Hugh Hefner pajamas again.

2343
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 2: Do we need to stage an intervention? Or is this

2344
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 2: cool in twenty twenty two?

2345
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 1: I think two guys like us who wouldn't know cool

2346
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,759
Speaker 1: if it's if Cools Dick slapped him in the face,

2347
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 1: should probably pump the brakes on, questioning whether or not

2348
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 1: Canelo can get away.

2349
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 2: With this now the future is so bright he had

2350
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,599
Speaker 2: to wear shades. Our producer Manis is saying he votes

2351
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 2: that this is cool. He's a lot younger than us, Luke,

2352
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 2: and he's also a recording artist in each so uh,

2353
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 2: he probably knows a little bit more.

2354
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: Hey, you and I, You and I our our concept

2355
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 1: and understanding and frankly, our claim too cool is tenuous.

2356
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 2: There's the sugar sugar, What's what's Rayflaur is his nickname?

2357
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 2: The sauces the boss. What's the damn company that makes

2358
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 2: that sauce?

2359
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't know?

2360
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 2: Oh, sweet baby, Ray, sweet baby Rayfloir is there? He

2361
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 2: is Luke all right, nobody cares. Let's keep it going. Hey,

2362
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,440
Speaker 2: speaking of Frank Sanchez, Luke, video a surface of Canelos

2363
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 2: sparring the Cuban heavyweight.

2364
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,879
Speaker 1: Luke, does this make you Frank Sanchez is Frank Sanchez

2365
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 1: is my height?

2366
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 2: Does this make you imagine one day Canelo doing something

2367
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 2: crazy like going off.

2368
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 1: To have youweight? Not necessarily people spar you know, but

2369
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: Jesus you you listen. Let's listen. Let's see him go

2370
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 1: to one seventy five first, Let's just see what happens.

2371
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2372
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair, Luke. Let's go over the MMA side.

2373
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 2: Here's Yan Blohovich uh meeting his match, a lego version

2374
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 2: of the former champion.

2375
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, that's a lego version. Yes, that's a lot

2376
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 1: of work, man, Jesus, that's pretty good.

2377
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 2: That's not pretty good? Not bad there, all right, Luke.

2378
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 2: Bare knuckle fighting got wild over the past few weeks.

2379
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 2: Check out this guy in the jeans delivering a big ko.

2380
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah him, hit him, hit him with the double jab.

2381
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 2: Looks like Dean Ambrose right there with those on. Yeah,

2382
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 2: that is uh. I like the straw ring. That's pretty cool.

2383
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, it's like, hey, where we're gonna fight in

2384
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 1: these bales? Hey?

2385
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 2: Ah shit, Luke, your favorite knockouts are the one where

2386
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 2: they testify before the congregation. So we got one of

2387
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 2: those in this European bare knuckle fight.

2388
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,480
Speaker 1: No, that's not testifying, that's the opposite.

2389
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 2: That might be the Hitler sign. Yeah, we don't need

2390
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 2: that anymore.

2391
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: Maybe the guy just hates Jews or something. I don't know.

2392
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak that about him. He just

2393
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 1: got ko. But all right, by the way, here's how

2394
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 1: you know the BK thing might be might have some

2395
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:03,720
Speaker 1: life be is because now your European randos are imitating it.

2396
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2397
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,680
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair enough fighting, Luke. You come here

2398
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 2: for drunk girls gone wild. Check out this gingerbread house headbanger.

2399
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's my kind of lady, Luke.

2400
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 1: You know what she gives good head he cutting it out.

2401
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we might get canceled for that. Oh, Luke, what's

2402
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 2: that clip you wanted me to see one time? What's

2403
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 2: it called two chicks, one drink? Is that what it's called?

2404
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: Something like that? Let's see what happens. I can't quite

2405
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 1: skew you blow it up. I can't see what's happening. Oh,

2406
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 1: that's that's uh.

2407
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 2: That's that's friend that's friendship right there, Luke. Wow.

2408
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 1: Can can I be honest? You see? That's it's kind

2409
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: of hot? I'd like to be Yeah, just be candid

2410
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 1: with you.

2411
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 2: Well, Looke, those girls get along well, but these girls

2412
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 2: are probably gonna end their friendship after this, Luke. Let's

2413
01:51:54,360 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 2: check out this on the links. Oh shit, I think

2414
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:03,639
Speaker 2: that's called getting hit with the ugly stick, Luke.

2415
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

2416
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:06,839
Speaker 1: Really, and she hit her with like the nine iron.

2417
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 2: Goddamn yeah four forehead. Wow, she hit her.

2418
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 1: She hit her with the fucking h with the driver. Wow.

2419
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:16,600
Speaker 2: It's not cool at all. I mean, but why are

2420
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 2: you standing there though? What kind of a by the way,

2421
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 2: I've been hit? Have you ever been hitting the golf

2422
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 2: course with the ball having me twice?

2423
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 1: Luke? Yes, you mean like a foul ball basically.

2424
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 2: Well, like you're playing golf with your friends and you

2425
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 2: don't get out of the way because you don't think

2426
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 2: your friends are gonna hit you, because they're hitting there

2427
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 2: swinging the other direction, and then they shank one and

2428
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:33,720
Speaker 2: hit you right in the gut and then you have

2429
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:35,760
Speaker 2: to like bite down so you don't cry because you're

2430
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 2: in public and you know it's it's just awkward.

2431
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:39,720
Speaker 1: I just take it like a man. I don't really

2432
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 1: have bitch issues.

2433
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 2: You're like forty nine days until training camp. Yeah, okay,

2434
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:45,680
Speaker 2: there you go.

2435
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 1: One day for Vulkanoski. You holloway too. Fun.

2436
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 2: This look big week for our famous friends. Let's start

2437
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 2: in Vegas. Kevin I only debuting his new bobblehead. Luke,

2438
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 2: what do you think?

2439
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 1: Oh snap, look at the beat a bottle head?

2440
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah wow?

2441
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:02,520
Speaker 1: How did he get How did he get a bibblehead?

2442
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke. I didn't read the subhead. I

2443
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 2: just skimmied through. I saw he had a date. He

2444
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 2: took his girlfriend to the The Michael Jackson Show. Shout

2445
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 2: to Kevin IOWA getting it.

2446
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 1: Done, Luke shouts, all right, Also, Luke.

2447
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 2: Friend of the program. In our showtime Brethren for no

2448
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 2: More Brendan shob living the life dream here Luke by

2449
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 2: going to the Ferrari dealership with his pops and uh

2450
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 2: and and stepping on up. Luke, I drive a orange

2451
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 2: super outback or sorry, cross track. So I can't comment here,

2452
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 2: but can we blow this up? Your thoughts on this

2453
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 2: fine automobile?

2454
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 1: How much does a Ferrari like this cost?

2455
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with a lot, like a real.

2456
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 1: Well five hundred grand something like that.

2457
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 2: I do have to say, that's a wholesome father son

2458
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 2: moment right there.

2459
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 1: Luke getting a Ferrari.

2460
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 2: Looks like I don't know what those moments are, Like,

2461
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:54,720
Speaker 2: I really can't comment, but yeah, like.

2462
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 1: You know it was you mean the Little League games

2463
01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 1: that no one showed up for for me?

2464
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 2: Uh uh.

2465
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, serious question. If you

2466
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,799
Speaker 1: had unlimited money. Let's say just you checked your balance

2467
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you had five hundred million in.

2468
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 2: There, right if I had, if I had thick boy money, yes.

2469
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah. What is the nicest car? I think we've

2470
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: talked about this before, but what is the nicest car

2471
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 1: you would purchase? Like, seriously, go to the lot, give

2472
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 1: him cash.

2473
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 2: What would you get, dude, I'm still in love with cadillocs.

2474
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 2: I'd get like a seventy five dollars top of the

2475
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 2: line Sadan and all level. I mean, I know it's

2476
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:29,640
Speaker 2: not exciting to you, I know, Luke, What do you

2477
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 2: want me to say, Alfa Romera. I'm not a car guy, dude.

2478
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't get me off.

2479
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 1: Lou I'm not a car guy either, but there is

2480
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 1: a part of me as ratchet as this is. Do

2481
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 1: you remember back in the day this was like the

2482
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 1: aughts where you could get you'd see like the rappers.

2483
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: They would get the escalade right, the Cadillac escalade, and

2484
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 1: then they would put the spree Wells on them. Do

2485
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 1: you remember those, the spree Wells? I do so for

2486
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: folks who know there was an NBA player named Latrell

2487
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 1: Spreewell who was, by the way, you know, curmudgeon, I

2488
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 1: think is a nice way to put it, dude.

2489
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 2: And you're still gonna hold that coach incident against them,

2490
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 2: Yes i.

2491
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 1: Am, but at a bare minimum. He opened up a

2492
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: business where he would make rims, and the spree wells

2493
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 1: were famous because the cars would stop and he would

2494
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 1: have these rims that have its own access in the middle,

2495
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 1: and they would just keep spinning. As you came to

2496
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 1: a stop. I would put the spree Wells on the escalade.

2497
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 1: Paul Wall two thousand and six style. You know what

2498
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Luke, No one ever talks about taste.

2499
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 2: No one ever talks about it because they got swept.

2500
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 2: But Spreewell's performance in the ninety nine finals against the

2501
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 2: Spurs was was heroic.

2502
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, I don't remember all.

2503
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 2: Right, anyway, Luke, our final famous friend Pennington James made

2504
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 2: it out for an open mic mask Listen, NYC. Let's listen.

2505
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: The bottom of the.

2506
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 2: Multi caam.

2507
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 1: Listen to this tone deaf zero. It's ambitious, Luking, I

2508
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 1: like how he's got a multi cam shoot on an

2509
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: open mic.

2510
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,880
Speaker 2: All right, that's enough, that's enough of this bullshit. All right.

2511
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: By the way, who is this uh? Who is this

2512
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: uh person playing guitar with him? As I listened to myself.

2513
01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. Look, I hope it's one of the

2514
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 2: members of his boy band No escape. I hope it's

2515
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 2: one of the one of the other two donks from that.

2516
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 1: How come I have no escape from him?

2517
01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 2: All right? Hey, look, some people think we invented the

2518
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 2: old tip to tip thing, but I check out this

2519
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 2: og photo of Nas and Fat Joe. We may owe

2520
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 2: them a bit of royalty here, Luke.

2521
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 1: That's a little bit aggressive with the fingertipping.

2522
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's sliding on down the pole a little right, Yeah, yeah, brother, Okay,

2523
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 2: you into that? No, okay, let's keep it going.

2524
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 1: Go the next one.

2525
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 2: Let's tug a wartime, Luke, how strong is your neck?

2526
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 2: Could you? Could you compete against me in this?

2527
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck?

2528
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 2: That's got to be whiplash inducing.

2529
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 1: Right, yeah? How about I would just do this and

2530
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 1: then drop my head real quickly so you get smacked

2531
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 1: in the face.

2532
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 2: It's gotta be Russia, Luke, It's gotta be Yeah.

2533
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like Kazakhstan where like it's like they

2534
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 1: don't have you know, they don't have Nintendo Switch. All

2535
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 1: they've got is fucking Man games, you know.

2536
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:50,200
Speaker 2: Luke. Let's go back to the boxing ring. They put

2537
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 2: the ropes there to keep people safe, but sometimes people

2538
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 2: find a loophole. Check out this ending.

2539
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 1: You'll get the fuck out my ring.

2540
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's that's very similar to Jay Aaron's exit

2541
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 2: from the show. Luke. Wow.

2542
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I wish we could have punched his

2543
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 1: ass out the door. Oh man, oh man. I just

2544
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 1: have a fucking good night.

2545
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 2: All right, we'll stay in boxing here, Luke. This this

2546
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:18,400
Speaker 2: video is back around. Some people claim it's older than

2547
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 2: we think. But here's Tyson Fury going at the bag.

2548
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's gonna be like my pull up bar bro.

2549
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes it is, Yes it is, Luke. Watch out.

2550
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 2: Oh you see that picture. He's got the painting of

2551
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 2: him and Wilder. That's not bad on the water.

2552
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 1: I didn't, but you can go to the next slide.

2553
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Uh Luke. We love fat guys. Here's

2554
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 2: a fat guy attempting big air. Got to give him

2555
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 2: respect for this.

2556
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 1: Look at this tub of shit.

2557
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 2: But look, no COVID involved in this dunk at all.

2558
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 1: You gotta respect, dude. This was me coming to the

2559
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 1: studio at the beginning of the pandemic right here with

2560
01:58:58,560 --> 01:58:59,120
Speaker 1: mask and all.

2561
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 2: By the way, Oh yeah, sutless. Fat guys will always

2562
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 2: show up. And have you seen this ship? Uh Luke,

2563
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 2: you gotta you ever wonder what life was like before

2564
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 2: Manscape invented the lawnmower? Four point Oh.

2565
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 1: Look, so let me get a straight You clean your

2566
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 1: pubes by burning them?

2567
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:23,919
Speaker 2: Yes, the Burning Man Festival. Yes it is. Wow that guy. Yeah,

2568
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 2: that's kind of.

2569
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'll say this BC. It's fast and efficient,

2570
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:32,240
Speaker 1: fast and efficient, the.

2571
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:36,640
Speaker 2: Original fire crotch. It's this fellow right here, all right, Yes, hey, Luke,

2572
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:38,000
Speaker 2: the subway is just a It's.

2573
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 1: Like I was about to say, my crotch also burns

2574
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,840
Speaker 1: as much, but that's just from jocketch, Luke.

2575
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 2: Some people call the subway the world's toilet. See look

2576
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 2: at this. You gotta watch your step, Luke.

2577
01:59:53,480 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 1: Yikes, that a dil do, dude. There was this comic

2578
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 1: years ago named Russ Mnieve. He used to have a

2579
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 1: really good bit, and it was when I was living

2580
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 1: in New York. He would be like, Dude, I'll be

2581
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 1: walking down the streets in New York and I'll see

2582
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 1: like a used condom just laying in the road. And

2583
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, who is so reckless that they fucking the street?

2584
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 1: Yet so thoughtful that they actually wear a condom before

2585
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:28,800
Speaker 1: they fucking the street? It really is quite the end.

2586
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 2: I don't think it happened in the street, Luke. I

2587
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 2: think it was just you know.

2588
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:33,520
Speaker 1: This dildo's in the street.

2589
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a little kid. They so much tripped

2590
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 2: over it. That's awful, Luke. All right, Hey, we backed

2591
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 2: the blue on this show, Luke, But you gotta stay

2592
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:45,240
Speaker 2: out of the halfpipe here. What's this guy doing? I

2593
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:49,320
Speaker 2: think they call this skater die. He chose the latter.

2594
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:50,720
Speaker 1: Luke, is that a cop?

2595
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yikes, He's like, let.

2596
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 1: Me see what you kids are all about. On these

2597
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:57,160
Speaker 1: worldly turns.

2598
02:00:57,280 --> 02:00:59,400
Speaker 2: There's always those videos of cops trying to look cool

2599
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:02,760
Speaker 2: like they're anson in the in the hood, crossing people over. Yeah,

2600
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 2: this went too far. You gotta be careful here, all right?

2601
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of hoops, Luke Shack still got it from way

2602
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:11,200
Speaker 2: downtown Bank.

2603
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:15,000
Speaker 1: By the way, are we on his property or something

2604
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:17,840
Speaker 1: on one of his like palatial estates?

2605
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:21,120
Speaker 2: Damn, yep, yep.

2606
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 1: Big Shack. Dude, Big Shack has been popular for so long.

2607
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 2: He's great in commercials like great and he's making Look

2608
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,240
Speaker 2: you think this guy's just laying pipe like just I

2609
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 2: mean just left him.

2610
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 1: Did you ever hear his interview on The Howard Stern

2611
02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 1: Show about his hog?

2612
02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:37,080
Speaker 2: No, no, I haven't.

2613
02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:39,600
Speaker 1: What do you got, Luke, bro Women used to run

2614
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:42,640
Speaker 1: out of the room when the first time they saw it.

2615
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:44,440
Speaker 1: They would run out just didn't be like, I can't

2616
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:46,840
Speaker 1: do anything with this. This is you have a fucking

2617
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:49,120
Speaker 1: eel in your pants. I mean, what are you doing here?

2618
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 2: Very roco like, you gotta respect that two big nineties

2619
02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 2: icons in my house, Luke. Finally, Luke, will we'll finish

2620
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:58,600
Speaker 2: with the street fight of the week. A lot of

2621
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:00,320
Speaker 2: people sending me this jewelry here.

2622
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 1: Uh uh uh oh? Is he gonna get it?

2623
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:08,280
Speaker 2: Oh, he's gonna get it. He gonna get it, Luke,

2624
02:02:10,720 --> 02:02:11,640
Speaker 2: you gotta zoom in.

2625
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 1: Here, dude. You gotta love the third world. Man, they

2626
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 1: just got a different set of rules. Bro. Oh yeah,

2627
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bang on your diamante or whatever the fuck

2628
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:25,120
Speaker 1: this is. It's just just some by the way, who

2629
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 1: makes that car, some manufacturer you've never heard of in

2630
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. The guy who punched him as

2631
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 1: probably a police officer. That's his uniform. It just looks

2632
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 1: like he's wearing beach clothes.

2633
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 2: What country is this, Luke DJABOUTI No, this.

2634
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 1: Has gotta be like Nicaragua or something. Okay, this is

2635
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 1: this is dirt or Central This is dirt poor Central America.

2636
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:49,560
Speaker 2: Right, that's it.

2637
02:02:50,920 --> 02:02:52,600
Speaker 1: We don't usually do odds in it. Well, we didn't

2638
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 1: do odds and ends for today. Anything else you would

2639
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 1: like to mention before we get out of here?

2640
02:02:56,680 --> 02:02:59,680
Speaker 2: Did you you're not watching season four of Cobra Kai, Luke?

2641
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:04,760
Speaker 2: It is awesome. My kids and I are eight episodes

2642
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 2: in of the ten episode fourth season, which debuted December

2643
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:12,920
Speaker 2: thirty one. Luke, the Terry Silver is back. You remember

2644
02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 2: from the Quicksilver Method from Karate Kid Part three. I mean,

2645
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:19,000
Speaker 2: it is just awesome. They brought back a lot of

2646
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 2: callbacks of characters from season one of Cobraka. Look, it's great,

2647
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 2: It's absolutely great. I can't believe you about out of it.

2648
02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:29,120
Speaker 1: I really can't, said do At some point, I don't.

2649
02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 1: I was watching this, I'm like, I don't care about

2650
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:35,440
Speaker 1: the lives of stupid, nerdy teenagers. Like I don't. It's

2651
02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 1: not interesting to me.

2652
02:03:36,520 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 2: So if it was animated and in Spanish, Luke, you'd

2653
02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 2: be all over it, Okay, you'd be all from.

2654
02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:43,600
Speaker 1: Well, if it was animated in Spanish, my daughter would

2655
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 1: watch it, in which case then I would have to

2656
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:47,680
Speaker 1: watch it, Like I don't watch in Conto because I

2657
02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:49,400
Speaker 1: love it. I watch it because I kind of have to.

2658
02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 1: So all right, there's that. Did you see any movies

2659
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 1: over the winter break?

2660
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 2: Yes, last night on the showtime at Actually I watched

2661
02:03:57,080 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 2: Serproco with al Pacino.

2662
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 1: Luke, how was it rate? Well that? Since I was

2663
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:02,120
Speaker 1: a teen.

2664
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 2: Or flow as shit, but great, Oh Godino with the

2665
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:08,360
Speaker 2: beard and the along here, it's amazing. Also, Luke nineteen

2666
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:11,240
Speaker 2: seventy four is The Gambler with James Kahn. I am

2667
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 2: Matt Snyder, our great showtime producer has gotten me into

2668
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 2: the seventies neo noir run and you know, I am

2669
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:20,280
Speaker 2: just so deep in the ship. You ever seen Thief

2670
02:04:20,360 --> 02:04:22,200
Speaker 2: with James Kahn from the early eighties, Luke.

2671
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:26,760
Speaker 1: So, I mean i'd see. I saw the New Matrix movie,

2672
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:30,560
Speaker 1: which is dude, to call that movie bad, It's like,

2673
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it to you. It's

2674
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 1: you know how uh Triller fumbled the Cambosis and Lopez fight. Yes,

2675
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 1: so imagine like take the spirit of that and then

2676
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:50,280
Speaker 1: rub feces all over it and then urinate on top

2677
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 1: of it, and then rub more feces on top of it,

2678
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:55,480
Speaker 1: and then throw it in the garbage and then he

2679
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:57,160
Speaker 1: on top of that. And that's the.

2680
02:04:57,880 --> 02:04:59,760
Speaker 2: Luke, we got it and then put it inside.

2681
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:02,520
Speaker 1: It's a Within fifteen minutes, I was like, dude, they

2682
02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:07,360
Speaker 1: they should have let they. I have good news. I

2683
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:09,960
Speaker 1: have good news for you, Brian. If you thought it

2684
02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 1: was impossible that the fourth Matrix movie could be worse

2685
02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 1: than the Third Boy, or you'd be surprised.

2686
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:19,440
Speaker 2: Or I didn't like the second sucked the horn too, Luke,

2687
02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:21,000
Speaker 2: that's a hot take, but I'll be second.

2688
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:23,560
Speaker 1: Suck the horn. But third was bad. Third was really bad.

2689
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 1: The fourth movie, dude, and everyone's like, we were you expecting,

2690
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:30,400
Speaker 1: Sir Lawrence Olivier. No, just a movie that's decent. It

2691
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 1: is so fucking bad. But I did see. Don't look

2692
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 1: up the new DiCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence movie on Oh

2693
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,560
Speaker 1: that's on Netflix, right, Yeah, it's great, you'll love it,

2694
02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 1: really fun.

2695
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, we up breaking news. Minich has been

2696
02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 2: all over us.

2697
02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:45,040
Speaker 1: I know I saw it, but I ignored it because

2698
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:45,520
Speaker 1: it's dumb.

2699
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 2: Amanda Serrano, backing up the Jake Paul tweet about fighting

2700
02:05:49,240 --> 02:05:52,000
Speaker 2: hore Masvidal has tweeted out, I will gladly sign a

2701
02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:55,200
Speaker 2: one fight deal with the UFC to challenge Valentina for

2702
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:58,760
Speaker 2: the Flyway Championship. If the UFC agrees to Jake's offer,

2703
02:05:59,160 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 2: Let's make his three now full disclosure, of course, are

2704
02:06:02,680 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 2: not full disclosure. But Amanda is two zero to one

2705
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:09,120
Speaker 2: in m M A. She fought under U what cambat.

2706
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 2: She fought a regional fight as well. But this ain't happening.

2707
02:06:14,040 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's is silly and I'm ignoring it.

2708
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:19,440
Speaker 1: So for that reason. Yeah, so go see go see

2709
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:21,880
Speaker 1: those on Netflix. And have you have you not seen

2710
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:24,520
Speaker 1: in Conte you would do seriously, being dead serious, I

2711
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 1: would love for you to watch it and get your perspective.

2712
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:30,200
Speaker 2: Have you not seen that an animated film named Dead Children? No, Luke,

2713
02:06:30,200 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 2: I have not seen that ship. Okay, Luke, come on serious.

2714
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:35,280
Speaker 1: I know you have kids, but your kids are such

2715
02:06:35,320 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 1: a different age it doesn't matter.

2716
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were never really into that to be

2717
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't really like animated stuff.

2718
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Okay, what did they when they were three?

2719
02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:43,240
Speaker 1: What were they watching?

2720
02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:48,200
Speaker 2: Who are those guys?

2721
02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 1: You know?

2722
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:51,440
Speaker 2: Those guys? I don't know looks. It was a long

2723
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 2: time ago. The bang bus, the uh, the imagination movers.

2724
02:06:57,760 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 2: That's why I was thinking.

2725
02:06:58,640 --> 02:07:01,400
Speaker 1: About lu All right, well, your kids ond lame? Sure?

2726
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:05,640
Speaker 1: All right, I'm decent. I'm teasing. The kids are great.

2727
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:07,560
Speaker 1: All right. With that in mind, we need to call

2728
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:09,240
Speaker 1: it a day. We'll be back on Wednesday. We'll have

2729
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 1: good stuff for you. I don't think there's gonna be

2730
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:14,200
Speaker 1: any uh any extra credit today. There's really nothing to

2731
02:07:14,200 --> 02:07:16,080
Speaker 1: get to, so we'll put that off for when the

2732
02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:19,840
Speaker 1: next fight starts. Brian, of course, can go to Morning

2733
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:22,520
Speaker 1: Combat dot store if you want more of the merch,

2734
02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:24,680
Speaker 1: or if your neighbors want more merch, or if your

2735
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:26,960
Speaker 1: family wants more merch, they can go do that there.

2736
02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:28,840
Speaker 1: They can get that sweater. Look at that. Look at

2737
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:30,240
Speaker 1: that nice sweater he's got there.

2738
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 2: Huh nice champion sweater. Yeah, that's not bad, Luke, Okay,

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02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:34,880
Speaker 2: come buy our ship. You'll look great in it.

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02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 1: You know, they should make us they should make us

2741
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:44,040
Speaker 1: belts that we can carry around. Yeah, like tag teams. Yeah,

2742
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 1: I hate pro wrestling, but we need some tag team belts.

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02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 2: It's very helwany like. I don't know if I'm into that.

2744
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:50,640
Speaker 2: Shout out to Ariel your boy though.

2745
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:52,400
Speaker 1: But you know, all right, all right, let's see what

2746
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:54,760
Speaker 1: else we got the email Morning Combat at gmail dot

2747
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:57,840
Speaker 1: com for Wednesday's fan subs. Oh, one more thing, one

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02:07:57,880 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 1: more award.

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02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:02,520
Speaker 2: We almost forgot one more award. Minnie Cha has a video, Luke,

2750
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:05,480
Speaker 2: the nominees. This is probably the most important award. Let's

2751
02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 2: close the show. With this the twenty twenty one MK

2752
02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 2: Donk of the Year. Now, Luke, if you remember last

2753
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:18,360
Speaker 2: year the great Cristo's Cristo foros aka webscream, Greek born

2754
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:22,000
Speaker 2: Italy living shout out to Petro his young son there

2755
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 2: he woned. You know, Luke, it was a tight field

2756
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:27,839
Speaker 2: this year. Okay, let's go to the videotape the winner

2757
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:30,440
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty one Dunk of the Year.

2758
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:34,160
Speaker 3: Why need to say something first? BC Dick goes to

2759
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:36,800
Speaker 3: web screen. You're taking anything at work for motherfuckers. You

2760
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:39,480
Speaker 3: know who the number one donk is? You know who

2761
02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 3: the donk of the year is. Every year, got some

2762
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:43,840
Speaker 3: dorks making videos on the internet.

2763
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm the two donk. Wow, Wow, Wow, put some respect

2764
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:56,040
Speaker 2: on Damien's name. They're coming after you web scream all right, Luke.

2765
02:08:56,080 --> 02:08:58,000
Speaker 2: That was, of course a video that interview that we

2766
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:02,720
Speaker 2: did earlier in the year, when Damian got the MK

2767
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:07,480
Speaker 2: logos on his left bicep. Luke, he tattooed our show.

2768
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:11,960
Speaker 1: And BC's second audio feed. For the love of fucking god.

2769
02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:14,800
Speaker 2: Thank you for cutting off that echo. I don't know

2770
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:17,640
Speaker 2: if the people can hear it. Two oh nine Damian,

2771
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:20,600
Speaker 2: the donk who Luke has spun off loving our show

2772
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:24,320
Speaker 2: so much, created his own podcast. He's uh, he goes out.

2773
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 1: How bad is that podcast? It's real bad, right, he goes.

2774
02:09:26,680 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 2: I know it's all right. He goes after John Nash

2775
02:09:28,720 --> 02:09:32,440
Speaker 2: on Twitter. He's a real donk. He's got very scary tattoos.

2776
02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:34,120
Speaker 2: But we met him at the live show in July.

2777
02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 2: He showed us all his ink. He says, it gets him,

2778
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:38,720
Speaker 2: it gets he gets the job done with it. Lukey.

2779
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 2: He pulls the poontang with those scary satanic tattoos. But

2780
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 2: we love him, Luke. And it was a crowded field

2781
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:46,040
Speaker 2: this year. Do you have any honorable mention donks you

2782
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 2: want to name?

2783
02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:49,200
Speaker 1: No? I mean he was the he was the runaway.

2784
02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 1: I mean I also say this, dude, like a lot

2785
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:52,720
Speaker 1: of people email me over the year. People brought me

2786
02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:55,400
Speaker 1: their ejaculate pepperoni, which was nice. You know I had

2787
02:09:55,400 --> 02:10:01,480
Speaker 1: a chance to eat that. Just being so mean.

2788
02:10:01,960 --> 02:10:04,600
Speaker 2: Shout out to Aaron from Washington. I want to shout

2789
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:08,440
Speaker 2: out obviously web scream our great celebrity friend O'teell Burbridge

2790
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:10,200
Speaker 2: of Dead and Company. A great fani.

2791
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:13,280
Speaker 1: We'll tell you, dude, I got I was out Saturday

2792
02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 1: and yesterday. I got recognized both days, and uh, both

2793
02:10:18,160 --> 02:10:20,760
Speaker 1: guys were MK fans. Both guys were MK fans, So

2794
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:23,280
Speaker 1: I was actually fucking dude. It was a long time here.

2795
02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:25,560
Speaker 1: I would get recognized like at m May weeks, like

2796
02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 1: we were on the road somewhere or something. But then

2797
02:10:27,560 --> 02:10:29,000
Speaker 1: I come back to DC and you know, no't know

2798
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:31,600
Speaker 1: who the fuck I am too. I got recognized literally

2799
02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:34,120
Speaker 1: almost every time I go out. Now DC is starting

2800
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:35,840
Speaker 1: to show up, starting to show up for your boys.

2801
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 2: So now in Connecticut, shout out to Sawool who always

2802
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:41,200
Speaker 2: sends us his fan subs of wearing our merch. Also

2803
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:44,480
Speaker 2: Luke David a from France. Eventually they're gonna get him,

2804
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:47,360
Speaker 2: but until he weinstein's himself. Luke, he's a great fan

2805
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:50,040
Speaker 2: for us. Antoine from Alaska. He may be running from

2806
02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:52,680
Speaker 2: the law up there, but he's doing well. They say

2807
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:54,520
Speaker 2: for six eight he stood. Luke. Do you have any

2808
02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:57,800
Speaker 2: favorite fans now? You don't care? Oh? Jen and Bill Jennon.

2809
02:10:57,600 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 1: Jenen Bill, who need to come to the East coast

2810
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 1: if they all exist? Also, who is it is it? Seoul?

2811
02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:04,640
Speaker 1: Who you mentioned him already? But the guy who does

2812
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:07,360
Speaker 1: all the great stuff on Wednesdays.

2813
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:11,000
Speaker 2: Yes, that is so cool. We got so many of them.

2814
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm upsetting people not putting him in here.

2815
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:15,800
Speaker 2: But we love you people. You're the reason we went awards,

2816
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:17,960
Speaker 2: You're the reason we keep doing the show, and it's

2817
02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 2: building because of you. But look, Damian, the donk you

2818
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:25,400
Speaker 2: were above and beyond the Donk of the year for

2819
02:11:25,480 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 2: better or worse, and sir, we salute you.

2820
02:11:28,080 --> 02:11:32,600
Speaker 1: We salute the fuck out of you. Uh okay, all right, BC.

2821
02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:35,560
Speaker 1: So there's that Showtime dot Com thirty day free trial.

2822
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:36,760
Speaker 1: If you like it, you can keep it. If not,

2823
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:38,600
Speaker 1: pound sand but if you get the thirty day free trial,

2824
02:11:38,680 --> 02:11:41,840
Speaker 1: you can see Brian Campbell on Friday night making his

2825
02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:45,360
Speaker 1: showbox debut. BC. Who's the main event one more time

2826
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 1: for that card? We'll talk about it all week, I'm sure.

2827
02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:49,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, we got six undefeated fighters. By the way,

2828
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:52,400
Speaker 2: Luis Nunias versus Carlos Arieta in the main event. It's

2829
02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:55,560
Speaker 2: gonna be a fun show there from Orlando. Big a

2830
02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:58,080
Speaker 2: couple of Dominican fighters, port Rican fighters on the card. Obviously,

2831
02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:00,640
Speaker 2: Orlando is a big Porto Rican pop. A lot of

2832
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:03,280
Speaker 2: boxing shows going down there. I'm expecting at the Kree

2833
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,880
Speaker 2: Bay Resort. A fun crowd, a fun event, Luke, and

2834
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:08,280
Speaker 2: you know I get to be with the l Diamante

2835
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 2: Rowld Marcuz And people forget Barry Tompkins. Was he eighty

2836
02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:13,760
Speaker 2: years old? He was the voice of my boxing youth.

2837
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:16,560
Speaker 2: Now I get to call fights with him. Dream come true.

2838
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:19,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, show Box. I'm excited to be part of

2839
02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:20,360
Speaker 2: the new generation.

2840
02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:23,680
Speaker 1: There you have it. Uh, and that's it for us today.

2841
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:27,840
Speaker 1: We will be back Wednesday ready to lock into the

2842
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:30,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bah blah.

2843
02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:31,440
Speaker 1: Don't know what we're gonna say, but we'll have something

2844
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 1: figured out for Wednesday as well. Okay, give us a

2845
02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 1: follow all over social media if you can. MK's name

2846
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:39,200
Speaker 1: is the same throughout BC and I have slightly different

2847
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 1: names between Twitter and Instagram. You can see it on

2848
02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:45,440
Speaker 1: the lower third there. It is all right four Brian

2849
02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:48,200
Speaker 1: Campbell from Malka for CBS Sports for showtime, I'm Luke

2850
02:12:48,280 --> 02:12:50,440
Speaker 1: Thomas and for everyone here at MK, thank you so

2851
02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:52,480
Speaker 1: much for watching it. Until next time. You know all

2852
02:12:52,520 --> 02:12:53,760
Speaker 1: of your gains. Be loyal