1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 3 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. All right, here we go Mick Shots. 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: Kind of a delayed addition today, but we actually had 7 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: football out on the field, although the inside field for 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys OTA practice, the one that the media gets 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: to watch this week. They'll have three of those. That's 10 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: two down, one to go on Thursday, and it is 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Mick Shots here in the swb C Mortgage Studio on 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Everson Walls and filling in capably for Bill 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Jones as Danny Serek with Danny Great. I think I've 14 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: only been on with y'all virtually, so it's so great. 15 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be here with you guys in 16 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: person in the studio over a year here, over a 17 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: year ago, we were zooming right right over a year ago. 18 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: That year is gone. What do you realize this OTA 19 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: practice we got to watch was the first one since 20 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Wow, because there was no OTA's last year right, 21 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: you guys, and uh, I did you got your booze 22 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: a little? What is this? Uh? Lacrosse? Will you a rower? 23 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: Your crew? Your crew? Bar harbormain? What are you doing? Man? 24 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: I was the last place I was when on vacation. 25 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: Stop right there, this last place. Yeah, that sounds about right. 26 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: So we got a lot to disseminate here after watching 27 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: a helmets and jersey and shorts practice. Danny, you were 28 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: out there? Did you see a kay from up there 29 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: in the press box? You know what? It seemed okay 30 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: because I was looking for three players, looking for Dak Prescott, 31 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: I was looking for Tyrn Smith, and I was looking 32 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: for Lyall Collins. Check check check right fine by me? 33 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: Exactly absolutely, uh, and that's probably where we should start. Everson. 34 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: Just I was not out there, but we want you 35 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: to ask questions if we don't hit anything right, because 36 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: you know it's it moved to this time of the day. 37 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: I was napping, Sorry you were napping. Yeah. We hate 38 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: to mess up your schedule, your busy schedule. So Danny 39 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: is exactly right. Dak was out there moving as well 40 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: as ever. Right, I didn't see anything. He was rolling 41 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: out throwing the ball. He was fine watching him run. 42 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: And the only thing is he had shoes on that 43 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: were black. It's like you're slow yourself down, you know. 44 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: Grambling we had the blacks all the time. Yeah, that's 45 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: how we had Yeah, but no, he was he was fine. Uh. 46 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: You know, Tyrn Smith and Lele Collins didn't do everything, 47 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: but they did uh kind of the warm ups and 48 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: then when they went into individuals, they kind of walked 49 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: and watched, and then they did some of their rehab. 50 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Uh and then at the end when they did to 51 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: walk through part of the practice. Uh, they were out there, right, 52 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: They were out there. I think a little bit for 53 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: the eleven on seven drills because they didn't have defensive 54 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: linemen oka up against them. So we've been telling everybody 55 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: that these guys are ready to go, and I think 56 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 1: today was another indication on what is it like May 57 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: twenty six six? Yes, uh, that fifth, That's what I said, 58 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: and I followed ever since lead on that one can't 59 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: see my watch made twenty fifth that you know, we 60 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: got a long ways to go till trading camp starts 61 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: to kind of the second third of what two thirds 62 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: into July. So they should be ready to go. I 63 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: think that's encouraging. Kind of been telling everybody that, but 64 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: it was good to actually see those guys out there. 65 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: I saw Danny earlier before you came around, and that's 66 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: the first Those are the three people that I asked about, 67 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: and it was Dak you want to know about You 68 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: told me about Lyle Collins, and I want to know 69 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: about Tyman Smith. Of course I didn't think they'd be 70 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: doing much, but I wanted to see the movement. What 71 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: kind of movement did they have, How did they look? Uh, 72 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, back problems, neck problems, vander ess. We were 73 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: wondering about how he did. She said, he looked good. 74 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: And I wasn't worried about his legs. I was never 75 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: worried about his legs, always about his neck right and 76 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: and upper area there. So yeah, he looked fine. He 77 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: looked fine. Jalen was out there in his new jersey 78 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: number nine. Man, that's weird. That was weird to see. 79 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: That was my college number. By the way, that was 80 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: a great number number. Nine. You were nine number, but 81 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: you were a cornerback. The single numbers a cool for cornerbacks, 82 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: but for linebackers it makes him look small. That's what 83 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say I thought nine on Jalen 84 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: looked like he was twenty pounds lighter, and sort of 85 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: the same thing with Michael Parsons wearing eleven. I want 86 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: to see fifty something on a line. So is that 87 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: the reason that he changed to nine because MICA's having eleven? 88 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: Is this happening? No, this is not happening. That was 89 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: his number. I understand that. Are we taking this into 90 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: oh the season, is what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, this 91 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: is a so Jalen's gonna have nine, nine, So but 92 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: passons eleven? He will have eleven? Yes? Wow, do any 93 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: other linebackers, because if you were called back in the 94 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: day we were, we were you know, designated. They changed 95 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: good number changed the rule. These guys are so lucky. 96 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: Guess what my understanding is if you change numbers and 97 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: you have jerseys out there still that haven't been sold, 98 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: you have to pay for them. Wow. Now I think 99 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: it's not fair. Yeah, they did well this year. That's 100 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: not fair. You got why not don't the player? You 101 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: have to pay for that because they printed your jerseys 102 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: to sell and if they haven't sold yet, you got 103 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: to buy them. That sounds like a you problem. I 104 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: can well, whatever jersey I want now, I have to 105 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: be behold into what you change numbers in the mid 106 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: stream with your your product out there. Right, So when 107 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: they talked about the hundreds of thousands of dollars, you 108 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: got to pay it. That's exactly what they were talking about. Yeah, 109 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: they're paying the inventory though, the inventory. That's what they're saying. 110 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: Hang out is not cool at all. Unions got to 111 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: step in on that. Come on, now, does that make 112 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: any sense at all? Yeah? I think so. He thinks, 113 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well here's my question. If you have a 114 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: fifty four jersey, are you going to go out and 115 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: buy number nine? Now? I mean if you're a fan, Well, 116 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: now you're not the way he played last year? Yeah, 117 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: now you keep it as now the way you keep 118 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: it as memorabilia, well yea to me, it makes more 119 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: valuable Smith's jersey. Right. Um, and he looked like he 120 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: was moving. Well. The other thing I noticed about him 121 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 1: that maybe I passed off last year and didn't or whatever, 122 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: he seemed to be a little bit more engaged with 123 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: his teammates. Did you notice that? Yeah, I mean he 124 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: seemed to be more I won't say necessarily coaching, but 125 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: more kind of like engaged and other people going through 126 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: their jerals as well, not just going through the motion himself. 127 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: And then you know it was kind of sitting there 128 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: watching them, you know, hyping him up, tapping him up 129 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: when they were done too, right, I noticed more more engaged. Yeah, 130 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: I'd say with that, I hope it's because he has 131 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: more knowledge in the defense itself, because that was a 132 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: big excuse last year. He didn't really know what he 133 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: was doing. Nobody knew what they were doing. So hopefully 134 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: this year he's going with a little bit more knowledge 135 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: and will help him play a little bit better. Because 136 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: trust me, if you know what's going on, I mean, 137 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: you truly have a grasp on your defense, and especially 138 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: who you're studying, it's like the Sean Lee thing, you 139 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: you can anticipate. He had no anticipatory skills last year 140 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: at all. No, he didn't, and to me, that man, 141 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: he wasn't prepared. So I think maybe when you see 142 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: them draft a middle linebacker, uh, you say, okay, maybe 143 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: I need to be engaged here. But those guys, they 144 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: were switching in and out so much on you know, 145 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: at one point Layton and and Jalen were out there 146 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: at the same time, and another time it was Jalen 147 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: and uh and neil Um out there. Remember they said 148 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: they thought he'd started like that, he's starting, you know, 149 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: you forget about those guys we signed up agents. Yeah, 150 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: because the draft and the first time they went out 151 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: the safeties were the new safeties. Yea. By the way, 152 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: it was jern Curse and uh um demonte. Because he 153 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: was out there for a bit, Yeah, I was. That's 154 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: something I just I didn't know. I guess where he 155 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: stood in his rehab from that Achilles injury, which I 156 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: think was October. But yeah, I saw him out there 157 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: for a bit, which means he's doing much better than 158 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: I am. So hey, I could have gone through that raptic. Okay, 159 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: So how how do they look? I mean you had 160 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: two guys came in with repair the Achilles and he 161 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: was the year before. Okay, uh uh neil Uh. They 162 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: look they looked fine. His his instincts are really good. 163 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: He reacts to the play. They went one point when 164 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: they were out there, they ran an end around to 165 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: ceedee lamb and he snuffed it out immediately. So uh, yeah, 166 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: his recognition is good. Um let's see who else? Uh? 167 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: Really the only guys that the other guys that didn't 168 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: do anything. Zeke wasn't there, so we'll see what happened there. 169 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: I understand he was there yesterday. Zack Martin was out 170 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: there early and then he didn't do anything when they 171 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: started doing the other drills. But I've seen him out 172 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: there doing his rehab and he's he's moving just fine. 173 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: So so if you want to take if you want 174 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: to take a temperature check on on you know, the 175 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: injuries from last year and how they've developed this year 176 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: and recovered. What are you what are we looking at it? 177 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: We're looking at were we gave ourselves a percentage? And 178 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,119 Speaker 1: I'm really thinking divasively here. Forget all, I think everybody 179 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: is the only other person on defense and didn't do 180 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: anything was DeMarcus Lawrence, Okay, and I think they were 181 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: being very careful with him all the things he had 182 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: last year. Uh, you know, he was doing his rehab early. 183 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: The walkthrough at the end, so it was the defensive 184 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: walk through an offensive walkthrough separately. He was out there 185 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: at left defensive end, Randy Gregor, who was at right 186 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: defensive end Randy Yes, yes, And guys look like I mean, 187 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: some of them looked like they lost weight. I don't 188 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: know what your perception was. I mean, I think Jaalen 189 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: looked small. I don't know if that was in the 190 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: number or something like that. I don't know about losing weight. 191 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: Like Lane just looked really fast to me, like he 192 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: like looked like he was moving really well. Um, I 193 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: think to some of the excited, he's ready to go. 194 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you don't play much last year, 195 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: He's ready he get in well, he missed the he 196 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: got hurt in the first game. Miss four played maybe 197 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: seven eight nine games, and then he got hurt at 198 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: the end with the was it a calf a calf 199 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: or I forgot what it was quad knee something, and 200 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: he missed the last Cup several games. So yeah, I 201 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: thought he was looking good. You know, when I've seen Zeke, 202 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: he looks like he had lost some weight. Dak. They 203 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: got him listed at two thirty five. He ain't close 204 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: to thirty five. I guaranteed, yeah, at least ten pounds wider. 205 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't you know who looked small because he is. 206 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: I don't let's I don't even know what they have 207 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: him Nishan right, the rookie. I mean you can tell 208 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: he is tall and lanky. But um, i'll tell you what. 209 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: Make sure I got his They've got him at one 210 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: eighty three. Oh my goodness. He broke up another one 211 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: eight three. Yes, that's how much he weighs. That's six four. 212 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. But he looks like Danny. I'll take 213 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: that as a compliment, thank you. But he did it. 214 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: He almost an interception. Yeah, Um, he's got he's got 215 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: good instincts. I just think I thought everything was and 216 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: maybe since we're not used to getting to watch or practice, 217 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: everything seemed to be moving really fast, and so maybe 218 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: you know it was us, but I thought the speed 219 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: of everything, I'll tell you. The other person that looked 220 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: thin was Michael Gallup. He's already lean. I know. Yeah. 221 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think he could get leaner, but maybe he did. 222 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Uh or Marie Cooper didn't do anything today. He was there, 223 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: but he didn't do anything. Or what's going on we'll 224 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: find out. I think Mike's going to have his conference 225 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: call and the other players team. Blake Jarwin was out there. 226 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: He's not practicing. Blake coming back. You so you mentioned 227 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: about the injuries. He's still rehabbing. So he was on 228 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: the side doing his room one. Yeah, he really is. 229 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: I think if he's ready to go, regardless of whatever 230 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: tight ends were out there from Florida or whatever SEC 231 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: team or whatever, I still think he's a very prominent 232 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: figure in the offense. And one of the other guys 233 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: out there or was out there late doing rehab, Mitch Hyatt, 234 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. He had injuries last year and I 235 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: believe I think I've heard that he sprained a knee 236 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: doing some conditioning, so he wasn't uh taking part. So 237 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: these are just kind of off the top of my 238 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: head the things that we we kind of saw out there. Um, 239 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: I have to say Reggie Robinson, Yes, So they had 240 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: a cornerback from tulsa fifth round pick last year fort 241 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: fourth round. I was calling back in safety out there, Yeah, 242 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: and they moved him to safety last year. Well, he 243 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: was working with the cornerbacks so and kind of went 244 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: out there with the third team. So when they kind 245 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: of first went out there, it was Anthony Brown and 246 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs, then uh, Calvin Joseph and Nashan Wright and 247 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: then um and then Reggie Robinson went out there with 248 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: the with the third guys. Uh, who was the other place. 249 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: I gotta say Reggie, Reggie being a corner. I know 250 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: he played some safety, but changing to safe at a 251 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: very young age, that's tough. Yeah, that's really tough. You 252 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: used to playing cornerback, you know. The challengers kind of 253 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: see the individual is one thing. Yeah, but if you're 254 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: you come in they say, okay, we want to let's 255 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: try you at safety in the pros. There are so 256 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: many things that can come at you that you've never 257 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: seen in college. In college, and let's face it, at 258 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: the same place over and over again. Yeah, it's doesn't 259 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: matter how well they run them. But if you're safety 260 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: in the pros, you're going to see so many different things. 261 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: They can bait you and set you up so easily. 262 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm glad that he's back at corner. 263 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: I bet he's more comfortable practice in a corner than 264 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: having to worry about being a safety. So if anybody 265 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: sees pictures. Two other notable number changes Donovan and Wilson 266 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: the safety Oh my man, thirty seven okay he was 267 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: thirty seven last year and six Oh my goodness, so 268 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: lucky man, Wow, they were They just restricted us in 269 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: so many different ways. I was born too soon, and 270 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: that I get all you ought to hear a funny 271 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: story about that. The board too soon. Uh. We used 272 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: to do a kind of an well we called it 273 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: old Timer's Lunch, uh Pat summer all was part of it, 274 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: and so the stories were always just wonderful. So one 275 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: day we're at lunch and uh we were talking about Ellis, 276 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: um that he was kind of upset about his contract 277 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: because remember when he, uh he signed that deal. He 278 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: signed like a six or seven year deal. And this 279 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: was before the explosion of signing bonuses and contracts, and 280 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: he was kind of grumpy about it, right and complaining, 281 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: and so Pat asked about, you know, what's going on, 282 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: and so I kind of explained to him that, you know, 283 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: he signed that contract so early and then later on 284 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: everything changed, and um and I said, yeah, he kind 285 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: of did it too soon, and and and summer all 286 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: goes all came around. He was contemplating something totally different 287 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: from what he was talking about how much he was 288 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: getting the early days. Um. So yeah, but yeah, so 289 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: he uh six, and then Cedric Wilson is one. So now, well, 290 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: Donovan didn't have to worry about his jersey sales I'm 291 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: sure he didn't have to worry at coming out of 292 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 1: the pocket. Yeah, I'm sure that was nothing either of us. 293 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: Those If you recall, if someone else had your jersey 294 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: that you wanted, you still had to pay. You had 295 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: to pay that individual something. I remember I went to 296 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: the Giants, I wanted twenty four, and I think maybe 297 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: that you know might well no one, no one was 298 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: wearing nine. Yeah, so Jalen was cool because they weren't 299 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: given away Romo, but eleven was Cedric Wilson, Levin was 300 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: Wilson and here oh yeah he's won now, okay, so wow, 301 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: so I don't want this Carson. I don't know. I 302 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: don't know if Parsons had to pay up because remember, 303 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: because you're talking about paying inventory the question, you also 304 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: have to pay the player. But I think you got 305 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: forced to move then. Yeah, so he probably made some money. 306 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: Remember when it came up in the press conference about oh, 307 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: it's going to be a negotiation, Yeah, and Jerry said, 308 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: what negotiations? OJ wouldn't even let me siff twenty four? O. 309 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: J Anderson had twenty four. When I went to the Giant, 310 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: you said, Cedric war one? Yeah, coee. So he went 311 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: back to war because one, it's it's a it's a 312 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: kicker all the time. Yeah, but it's the coolest number. 313 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: And six. No one has worn six other than kickers 314 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: in the history of the couch. Oh god, Zenda, yeah, yeah, 315 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: the Zenas was that was the bounty Gate, right, yeah, 316 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: you remember number six with the Cowboys. They got Buddy 317 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: Ryan putting the hit out on the kicker. Zen Day 318 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: has the talk about being Penny trying to take out 319 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: porson Day him. That's what thought, Why is this guy 320 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: blocking me on the kickoff. I'm not gonna go down 321 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: and make a tackle. I think Tim Cedar had six, 322 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: So there was a couple of kickers that had Warren 323 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: worn six. So yeah, so so number a little few 324 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: number changes, a few position changes, and you know, just 325 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: got to see some of the young guys with the 326 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: veterans back out there. So all in all, that'll be 327 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: next time we get to watch No. TA. I believe 328 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: it's a week from Thursday because next week's Memorial Day Monday, 329 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: so they practice I think Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and I 330 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: think our day is Thursday, or maybe it's Tuesday, Thursday 331 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: Friday next week. So anyway, the next one we get 332 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: to watch is back then anything else you might have 333 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: saw before we take a break. Yeah, this is not 334 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: important whatsoever, but I just thought it was kind of fine. 335 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Kind Of early on in the practice, one of the 336 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: equipment guys was run in with the cart and he 337 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: was running too fast and it tipped over and all 338 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: this ice just fell. And you want to take a 339 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: guess who the first person was over there ran over 340 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: there to help him clean it up. Michael Parsons, Really 341 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: first person over shoveling ice back in as a bucket. Right. 342 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: The kind of reminded me of Dak's rookie year. Remember 343 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: they got the shot on the bench and he had 344 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: something tape or something and he went to throw it 345 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: in the garbage. This was on game day, like during 346 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: the game, and he missed and he went over and 347 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: picked it up and threw it back in the garbage. 348 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to act like a yeah, that's who 349 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: we act like your mom was watching, and every once 350 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: in a while you had a guilt feeling, you know 351 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, because you know you're on camera. Yeah 352 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: I can see that, Just go go pick it up. Well, 353 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: all right, well we're just getting started here on mit 354 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: shots on this Tuesday out at almost no Actually we're 355 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: we're si look at their one thirty to one fifty. 356 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: Well that's because I I don't prolong the person that's 357 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: trying to run the thing, right, because when I'm not 358 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: in charge, I never look at that clock, and I 359 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: know you don't know. All right, Well, we'll return. 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Cowboys 410 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: had their second OTA practice today. Media got to go 411 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: and watch Mickey. Did you see any other new faces 412 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: out there that caught your eye I did. The Cowboys 413 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: ended up signed. They had an open roster spot on 414 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: their ninety man roster. They had very silently last week 415 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: released William Sweet. He was an offensive tackle they had 416 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: picked up last year, so they had an open spot, 417 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: and they had brought in two wide receivers to catch 418 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: for Brett Hunley, the quarterback. When they worked him out 419 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: on Friday, and this guy of the two, I was like, 420 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: I thought they were using guys that were already on 421 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: the roster, right, and then I realized, now their names 422 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: are not on the back of the new jerseys. That's 423 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: not fifteen and sixteen on the Cowboys roster. And they 424 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: didn't sign and we can talk about Hunley, but they 425 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: didn't sign Hunley. But this guy looked good. I mean 426 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: he could run right well. It ended up it was 427 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: Johnny Dixon, former wide receiver at Ohio State and he 428 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: went undrafted in twenty nineteen. Houston had him into training 429 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: camp and then they let him go, and then Arizona 430 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: picked him up, and I believe he was on their 431 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: practice squad the last two seasons. Didn't hasn't played in 432 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: a game, but his senior year at Ohio State or 433 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: actually the last two seasons when he had kneed troubles 434 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: and ended up there five five years. So he must 435 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: have got a medical red shirt because he only played 436 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: like one game in twenty fifteen, one game in twenty 437 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: sixteen or fourteen fifteen, whatever the years were. But in 438 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen he played in twenty two games. 439 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: He had sixty seven catches for one thousand, one hundred 440 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: and forty six yards. He averaged seventeen point one to 441 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: catch and six touchdowns, eight in each his junior and 442 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: senior year. So he didn't get drafted, but I think 443 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: the Cowboys saw how well he ran routes out there 444 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: and the speed he had four four one in the 445 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: forty when he at the combine, so you know they 446 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: had an extra spot, so bring him in. And he 447 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: looks pretty good out there too, by the way. You know, 448 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: it's so weird about this past season. I was teasing 449 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: Danny about not seeing it for a whole year. It's 450 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: almost like the strike year in eighty seven. You know, 451 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: moves were delayed, you know, moves had to be made 452 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: for different individuals, and if things didn't swing right for you, 453 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: you go from being a potential player making a team 454 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: to just being out of the league, right, you know, 455 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: it just interrupts your continuity in whatever plans you may 456 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: have had. And some guys were just unlucky enough to 457 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: fall by the way, said Johnny, one of the lucky ones. Yeah, 458 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, great career. But you know when you start 459 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: talking about going into the twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen 460 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: and here talking about pandemic, it just kind of all 461 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: gets a little convoluted, you know, and you start to wonder, Okay, 462 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: well my next step was gonna be here when now 463 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: all these variables have changed, and I don't know what 464 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: step I'm gonna make next. So Dixon, this is sort 465 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: of like going back to college. He was the white 466 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: uniform number six, so uh so, yeah, everybody's got different numbers. Yeah, 467 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: and I believe I got that right. I think he had. Yeah, 468 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: he had six sons. So anyway, he was out there, 469 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: he looked good. He catches the ball well, so we'll 470 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: see where that goes. So Hunley Brett Hunley played his 471 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: college ball at UCLA. He was a fifth ri draft 472 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: choice of Mike McCarthy in twenty fifteen. And then how's 473 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: this for a little bit of irony. He made the 474 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: team in Green Bay as the third quarterback. The second 475 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: one was Scott Tolzie Cowboys now assistant offensive coach. Right 476 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: Tozine left the next year to go to Buffalo, I 477 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: believe it was, and so Hunley became the backup. He 478 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: only played a couple of games that year. But the 479 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: next year is when Aaron Rodgers suffered a broken collar bone, 480 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: and so he had to come in. Everybody off on 481 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: the way up the defensive end on the Vikings. I 482 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: just thought it was a dirty hit. He just never happy. 483 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: He he's happy now he's in Hawaii, right, Yeah, not 484 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: at Ota right, good one. Uh. And so so when 485 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: he broke his collarbone, then Hunley had to come in, 486 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, and he had been the backup, but he 487 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: had played like two games or one game in the NFL, 488 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: and it wasn't pretty. They ended up going three and 489 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: six with him at quarterback, and he struggled. I think 490 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: his quarterback raiding ended up being seventy that year. He 491 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: had more interceptions than touchdowns, and that ended up they 492 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: ended up going seven and nine the Packers. That was 493 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: Mike's first losing season since their second one in Green Bay. 494 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: So they ended up trading him the next year to 495 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: Arizona or no, to Seattle. Didn't play any games in Seattle, 496 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: they let him go. Arizona picked him up. He played 497 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: maybe three games one year, didn't play at all last year, 498 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: so they brought him in to look at him. You know, 499 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: they're kicking tires from that backup quarterback spot, and you 500 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: know he throws the ball. Well, it's just a matter 501 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: of you know, how well do you play the game? 502 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: Do you recognize things? Because I think at UCLA, you 503 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: guys tell me you might have. But he was more 504 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: of a kind of past slash run quarterback. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 505 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: So anyway, they had four quarterbacks out there today. Right, Well, 506 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: that's my question for you about all of this, as 507 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: we only saw one game each last year from Ben 508 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: d Nucci and Garrett Gilbert. So now, right, and Danucci 509 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: was a seventh round draft back Gilbert came in. But 510 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: now that they're going to have an entire regular offseason, 511 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: more regular at least the last year, right, and working 512 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: with this coaching staff, how comfortable are you if the 513 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: Cowboys decided to stick with the two of them as 514 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback, if they don't find anyone to bring in. Yeah, 515 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: And I wrote about this in my column on Dallas 516 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com on Friday, and I was basically like, Okay, 517 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: this is what they got, but don't be surprised if 518 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: they don't keep kicking tires and just kind of see 519 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: what's out there. Can any of these guys come in 520 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: and be better than any of those three because you're 521 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: probably not going to take more than four quarterbacks to 522 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: training camp, right, You're not gonna take five. You can't. 523 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: You can't go through that. So uh so yeah, so 524 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, and so it got me thinking because I 525 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: was thinking, because of five quarterbacks being drafted in the 526 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: first round, that um, there would be some veteran guys 527 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: getting released, right those teams can't keep all those quarterbacks. 528 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: And if you're gonna play that that the rookie immediately 529 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: somebody's going, right because maybe because of salary cap reason. 530 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: So I went back and looked and started looking at 531 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: two teams that took first round picks. So Jacksonville they 532 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: drafted Trevor Lawrence first, right the other three quarterbacks on 533 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: their roster right now, or Gardner Minshew who started some games. 534 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: You're thinking that's pretty good. That's probably their best. That's right. 535 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: The other that's right, Chris was doing The Men Show. 536 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: So there are other two quarterbacks are Guy's name, C. J. 537 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: Bethard and Jake Lewton, neither once probably any better than 538 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: the three the Cowboys have, right um. And then if 539 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: I can read my notes here, the Jets take Zach 540 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: Wilson right, he's probably their walk in starter. Well, they 541 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: only have two other quarterbacks on the roster right now, 542 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: James Morgan and Mike White. Oh. I don't think I 543 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: realized he ended up there. That's where he was last year, 544 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: so it's where you can disappear in New US, so 545 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: that none of that gets you excited, right Um? I 546 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: was thinking, Okay, I saw where Tampa Bay signed Blake 547 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: Gabbert back. He was their backup quarterback last year Universe 548 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: in Missouri the way Zou and they paid him one 549 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: point five million, so I figured, okay, he's probably the backup. 550 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: But they also had signed Ryan Griffin who they signed earlier, 551 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: and then they drafted Kyle Trash. Okay, but I don't 552 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: know that any of that gets you excited, unless they 553 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: decide to get rid of Blaine gabbert Um the Bear. 554 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: We get a backup. We gotta have a veteran backup. 555 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: It can't be a young guy Dalton. There's an interesting twist. 556 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: So the Bears trade up right to get Justin Fields. True, 557 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: you think he's the starter? I think by week four? Yes, okay, 558 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: So here's here's here's there might be some irony here. 559 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: The other two backups that they have. They signed Andy 560 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: Dalton on a one year deal ten and a half million, 561 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: and they still had Nick Foles. Yeah, so Nick foles 562 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: cap hit is six point six million dollars and if 563 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: they get rid of him, it's fourteen point three and 564 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: dead money against the cat. Andy Dalton is counting ten 565 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: point five million against the cat, but if they get 566 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: rid of him, it's only five and a half million 567 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: in dead money. So don't even, don't even. I sort 568 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: of finished. I sort of finished my column and and 569 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: Danny won't recognize this, but you remember that old Western 570 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 1: movie Shane, Yes, of course, Shane, and the movie come 571 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: Back Seat. Shane ended the movie where he kind of 572 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: made friends with this little kid and they had Shane 573 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: writing into the sun that and the little kids yelled, 574 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: Shane come back and I'm going and he come back. 575 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: He just might. I mean he wants to start, I know, 576 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: but what if they decide he's not the starter. Well, 577 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: the way that coach is up there, he's very concerned. 578 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: If you talked about maybe game five, you said what 579 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: you say for you say by week four, I'd be 580 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: surprised because they're very he's very conservative head coach up there. 581 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: So he may go. Yeah, I think I see him 582 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: going with Folds before he would even go with Fields, 583 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: I wonder. I mean, so, I mean you could qualify 584 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: keeping I mean, Field's not going to cost you that 585 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: much on the rookie contract, probably three and a half 586 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: million against the cap. But can you keep Foles and Dulan? 587 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: You can? Yeah? Yeah, and they say they can they can't. 588 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: So we'll see. Well, Folds is always that guy that's 589 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: he's like the owl in the nest. He's always up there, 590 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, and he's always going to be there for you. 591 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: So everyone's always calling Nick back. Now he's the one 592 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: that's coming back all the time. Right, Yes, you think 593 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wants will be a backup, I'm no comment. 594 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: So so here's the other thing. So I started looking 595 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: at comparing who the Cowboys have as potential backups with 596 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: what some other teams have, you know, and there's some 597 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: teams that are they've got that kind of veteran guy. 598 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: Like Arizona has Colt McCoy. Uh Atlanta signed How old 599 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: is he's got to be up there now? Right? Go ahead? 600 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,479 Speaker 1: Uh Atlanta has aj McCarron. They signed him. He hadn't 601 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: played that much, but he's played. Uh, Mitch Tubrisky's in 602 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: in in Buffalo, case Keenum's in Cleveland. But like Denver, 603 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: they brought in Teddy Bridge Rod signed him. They got 604 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: Drew Locke and then the other two guys are Brett 605 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: Rippon in case Cooks hey Man. They probably said that 606 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: about Everson Walls too back in the age. Okay, is 607 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: this guy y thirty four by the way, very good 608 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: for so Deshaun Watson. We're not sure what's going on there? 609 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: Uh the guy from Indie right? Um Taylor didn't they? Yes, 610 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: they They've got Ryan Finley, David Mills, and they just 611 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: signed Jeff Driscoll who worked out here. So I don't 612 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: know that that gets you excited. Look at this what's 613 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: behind Carson Wentz in Indianapolis that's weird. Jacob Eason, Jalen Morton, 614 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: and they drafted Sam Ellinger. Wow, So not everybody has 615 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: this backup quarterback that you go, Okay, you can probably 616 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 1: save the day. The Rams they brought in Stafford, Yeah, right, 617 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 1: the backups right now, John Wolford, Delvin Hodges and Bryce Perkins. Well, 618 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: on the other hand, let's look at Detroit. Uh, and 619 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: I've got that too, So behind goff right now, Tim 620 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: Boyle and David Blow Boyle I've heard of, right, And 621 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: the only reason I know of Blow he played at 622 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: Purdue and the first game he started against misso yes, 623 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: and he threw for five and he threw for five 624 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: hundred and Missouri won the game. It's a miracle. So 625 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's like, you know, not everybody has, uh, 626 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: the Giants right now, Daniel Jones, right, the backups Mike 627 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: Glennon and Clayton Thorson who was here on the practice 628 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 1: squise yes and the year and they ended up releasing him. 629 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's not a lot of these guys out 630 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: there that you know, the Redskins, Okay, Ryan Fitzpatrick after that, 631 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: it's Taylor Heineke, Kyle Allen and Steve even Montez. It's 632 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: the football team. Oh sorry, oh slap, but um heineke 633 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: he he played well in the playoff game and that 634 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: was the only game he really played, right, that was 635 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 1: the playoff game. Played well against US, didn't he? Yes? 636 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: He yeah, you're right, he played very well against US. 637 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: They beat us. And somebody might say, well, Blaton Gabbert 638 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: played well against US. We happened to win, but you 639 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: know so. So anyway, my point is with these backup 640 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that there's just there's not enough quarterbacks out there. 641 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: I say, not in the veteran quarters out there, some 642 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: young guys. And if you go with the veterans, well 643 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: I say veteran, they might be three year veterans who 644 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: never touched the field since they got out of college. Right, 645 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: That is not a good backup to me. If I'm 646 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: gonna go with a backup. Of course, Andy Dalton would 647 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: be great. That was the best backup you can have 648 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: at that point. Folds or somebody like that who has 649 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: pretty much used up all of his backup material. Now 650 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: he's not the guy that he was when they won 651 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I don't even think I feel comfortable 652 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: with him coming here. See. And here's the other thing. 653 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: If any of these guys that have a little experience 654 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: come available, there's a whole bunch of other teams that 655 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: probably would say, too, hey, how about it. We got 656 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: a bunch of rookies back here backing us up as well. 657 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah they want so it's not like a slam dunker. 658 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: You know that these guys would just say, Okay, you 659 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: fail for two million dollars on a one year deal, 660 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: I'll come play for you. So it'd be nice if 661 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: Hunley would have gotten a lot more experience as a player, 662 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: because he has just deteriorated as an athlete. So he 663 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: ended up with He's so where did I say? Came 664 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: out in twenty fifteen, right, and you know, Mike knows him. 665 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: He's a decent athlete coming out. He played seventeen games 666 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL, eleven of those in the twenty seventeen season. 667 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: So uh and those were the meaningful games. Nine touchdowns, 668 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: twelve interceptions, five point eight in attempt. Yeah, that's what 669 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: scares me right there, took twenty nine sacks and got 670 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: a seventy point six quarterback rating. You would think that 671 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: they could kind of you know, dumb it down a 672 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: little bit for the young young kid coming in. He's 673 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: not even Rodgers. Yeah, he's still trying to learn. A 674 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 1: pretty good arm. Rodgers got hurt. He had a good arm, 675 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: and he was a nice athlete. Yeah, I mean, you don't. 676 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: You don't do well in the Pac twelve by just 677 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: being a bum. Yeah, he was pretty good player. But 678 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: I think he just just eroded from lack of play. 679 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: And you know here that can happen. And you guys 680 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: tell me, but my philosophy on backup quarterbacks like young 681 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: guys like that, once the season starts, they don't get 682 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: any better. You can't learn, right, there's no more. You 683 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: don't really get the opportunity to no learning process anymore. 684 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: Start against all the snaps and you're you're the dummy 685 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: square quarterback. Now you know, you're you're just doing the 686 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: Washington stuff, You're doing the Cowboys stuff. You know, you're 687 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: Ohmo this week or you're you know, Tom Brady this week. 688 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that doesn't help you learn at all. 689 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: In high school, we called it the nut squad. We 690 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: call it dummy dummy squad. How politically incorrectly are you, guys? 691 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, so so yeah, so you asked about the 692 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I say, you keep your eyes open and 693 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: maybe something comes available. I think you just at that 694 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: point you just kind of have to get lucky, right, 695 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: Chips fall where they may. I don't know that anyone 696 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: out there is probably better than Garrett Gilbert at this point, right. 697 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to say. We haven't seen a 698 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: lot of him, but you think he's been around in 699 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: the league enough, a couple of years, another full year 700 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: under his belt here with this coaching staff, you'd like 701 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: to think, you know, he'd be fine if you need him. 702 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm kind of my initial thought with all this is like, oh, 703 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: Dak's back, Lyell and Tyrant back, and then it's like, 704 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: hold up, do you not remember what happened last year? 705 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: How important backup dogs will? My dogs knew we got 706 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: hurt and it was so howling during the game, and 707 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: it was sobering too right to say, okay, we gotta 708 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: go with the back. And that's what she's saying, That's 709 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: what Danny says. It's very you can you can be 710 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: sobered up real quickly in this situation, and that's what 711 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: bothers me about it. I am just very surprised at 712 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: the lack of opportunities that we have out there as 713 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: far as backup veterans and with what we have, you know, 714 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: and I know these are nice young man, they're the backup, 715 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: but I just don't think they're ready at all. I 716 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: thought the Nucci was well, think about it, clearly physically 717 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: out match today. I worry for his physical health because 718 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: he's so small about Yesterday and today were his first 719 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: two OTA practices of his career. So you asked the 720 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: guy to come in as a seventh round draft choice. 721 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: The hind though, and that ended up playing at FCS school, right, 722 00:43:55,120 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: James Madison, And he gets no OTAs, no rookie mini camp, 723 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 1: no veteran mini camp, he gets no preseason games, got 724 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: training camp. But everybody was in a rush to get 725 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: everything ready. I'm sure he had maybe two what Connor 726 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: Williams and probably Zack Martin was still out there that game. Yeah, 727 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 1: and then that's probably the worst thing about it. I mean, 728 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: you can put all that together, right, but not having 729 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: all of your offensive linement in that game, a bunch 730 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: of new guys coming in, It's not like it's not 731 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: like those guys that got hurt a couple of weeks ago, 732 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: and we had some guys that we could fill in 733 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: and they got their experience, saying okay, we feel a 734 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: little bit better with them. They're settled in not not 735 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: this time. Yeah, they were hurt like that week. Do 736 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: you know how fast that game must have looked to 737 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 1: him when he got in there. It was like rush 738 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: hour and hell But but the ushers were his offensive linement. 739 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: I here this way, sir, you can you can just 740 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: come on. So it wasn't a fairer assessment. I'll be 741 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: interested to see what happens through an offseason. Uh gets 742 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: a chance to maybe play some preseason games and get 743 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: a better read on him, because when we saw him 744 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: and when I finally got to see him in practice, 745 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: it's like he was very accurate and he had some 746 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: zip on the ball. But you're right, he's very slight. 747 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 1: So uh yeah, we'll see where um, we'll see where 748 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: that one goes. But for now, keep looking. But in 749 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: the meantime, you know, the Cowboys got so lucky in 750 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, right, you lose Tony Romo, you lose Kellen 751 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,760 Speaker 1: Moore and the guy that some people couldn't figure out 752 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: his talent dat Prescott because they thought that he should 753 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: have been the fourth guy, ends up starting sixteen games 754 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: for you and you win. I mean it's a minor miracle, 755 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: maybe a major miracle that they were able to survive 756 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: with a young guy like that and not been where 757 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: he played this first year. Now you can't. That is 758 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: a miracle. 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We haven't touched on so far. 804 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: Eight eight, eight, eight, five, five two two nine seven. 805 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys had Day two of OTAs today. Media was out there, 806 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: including Mickey. One rookie we haven't really talked about so far, 807 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 1: linebacker jibbra Cox. How was he looking out there too today? Yeah? 808 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: He um so. I think it was maybe at one 809 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: when they were they were rotating everybody in and out 810 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: so much. But at one point early when they were 811 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: in seven on seven, the first kind of team stuff 812 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: they did, he went out there with Michael Parsons, So 813 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: they kept those two guys together. Michael was in the 814 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: middle and he was on the week side. And again 815 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: he you know, he looks good in coverage. I think 816 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: he moves awfully well. Yeah, a nice first team, second 817 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: team thing going on. Yeah, I think linebacker for a 818 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: position that I was somewhat concerned about. Everybody was yeah, 819 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: I think when you do that. And I'll tell you 820 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: the other guy that got a lot of snaps in 821 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,439 Speaker 1: the middle. And I want to make sure I say 822 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: his name right because I always transpose, transpose it. Francis 823 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: Bernard could be Bernard Francis, right, so I shouldn't say that. 824 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,439 Speaker 1: I'll mess you guys. But they had him him working 825 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: in the middle too, and and and he looked like 826 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: he was taking like when he was calling out signals 827 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: and getting guys lined up. So I thought he was 828 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: interesting last year. And um, and he was a good 829 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: special teams player. So they're gonna need some guys to 830 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: step on step up on special teams from that linebacker spot. Oh, 831 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: they have what we have what on the roster? Ten? 832 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: Go ahead, guess ten linebackers. You're way high, probably seven 833 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: or eight, eight, way high. A high traumatic you know 834 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 1: when they who I could just kind of forget about 835 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: just because he was hurt and then didn't really see 836 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,439 Speaker 1: him last year as Luke Gaffer. Yes, yes, and he's back. 837 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: So one of your injured guys, he was back out there. 838 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: And so the other linebackers that we didn't mention was 839 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: a zur Kamara. Um was he an opt out guy 840 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,919 Speaker 1: last year or they they picked him up as a 841 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,760 Speaker 1: as an early free agent? Uh? Yeah, and Luke Gifford, 842 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: Francis Bernard. So you know that somebody's gonna have to 843 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,439 Speaker 1: step up for the special teams guys justin March. That's 844 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: what the special team guy special Joe Thomas. Yeah, good 845 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: Joe still there? No, No, okay, I was gonna say 846 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: we talked about that. Pay them a little bit of money. 847 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know that the Cowboys actually wanted them back. 848 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: I guess so we want we we are heavy linebackers. 849 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: That's probably the position that we have the most. And 850 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,919 Speaker 1: you want to keep you would love to keep for sure, 851 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna keep seven, but you'd love to keep eight 852 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: to say, okay, special teams or if or if somebody 853 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 1: makes you keep nine. Right, Um, but yeah, uh about 854 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: defensive backs. I mean, that's got to be our second 855 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: most populated position, maybe the most. So we're talking to Yeah, 856 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: but I don't know how. I don't know how that 857 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: makes me feel more comfortable by any means. We need them. 858 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: This is this was it was a matter. It was 859 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: about need. We had to address it. Yeah, but skill, 860 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, quality over quantity. Right, there's eighteen guys you 861 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:13,240 Speaker 1: are lying, bro, eighteen dB that's that last group down there. Wow, 862 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: we are just no respect for dB. Is eighteen not enough? 863 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: They just bring them in? Just bring guys Inah, man, 864 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: it was twenty five wikie dbs. I told you in 865 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one. So you know, I didn't even get 866 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 1: through the drill. Sometimes I didn't even get to get 867 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 1: a chance to participate in the drill because the line 868 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,359 Speaker 1: was so long. Yeah, but you know what, back then, 869 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: there was no limit on how many guys they could do. 870 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: What are you saying about right now? You got eighteen 871 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: out of nineteen? Come on, that is a lot. Well 872 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: that's good. So how Kevin Joseph looked you throw? You 873 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: throw more solutions at the problem, you know. Yeah, that's 874 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: how you do it and something. That's how you do 875 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 1: it something that's right. So Joseph Kevin dood he looks 876 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,959 Speaker 1: like um still bouncing around out there. Yeah, like John 877 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: Morant or somebody. He didn't look like he was lost. Which, 878 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: by the way, if you were guarding Job Morant, would 879 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: you let him drive into the lane? No way? And 880 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: they kept letting him do No, he's gonna have to 881 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 1: trick me. Yeah, he's threes. He was doing that a 882 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: little bit, but he's gonna have to show me more 883 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: than one game. We digressed this, but that's okay. All right. 884 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 1: We got a call him. He speaking of the Memphis Grilis. Yeah. 885 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,439 Speaker 1: Now we've got a caller from Nashville. Bob, Hey, Bob, 886 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: how you doing great? How are y'all? We're good? He 887 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: real quick. We talk about offense and defense. But I 888 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: thought our special teams was much better last year. What 889 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: are you all thoughts about special teams going forward this 890 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: year with John Fossil? Oh? Thanks, I'll just hang up 891 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: and listen. That's a good question, because John knew he 892 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: had a good special teams. Yeah, but he overplayed his 893 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 1: hands sometimes. He was pretty risky, no doubt about it. 894 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: Way risk didn't he didn't you go fake punt. Are 895 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: you like thinking of the Washington game or was it 896 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,280 Speaker 1: Washington when they go fake punt? Yeah, I thought twenty 897 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: four yard Yeah, but he didn't know what he had 898 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: and he was so desperate to turn things away up 899 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,879 Speaker 1: from the previous year because twenty nineteen. But you know what, 900 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: when you go back and look at that, the call 901 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: might have been good. The execution executed. Yeah, execution, that's 902 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: the thing. Everything can work with good execution. But the 903 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 1: but analytics don't tell you to run certain rights at 904 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: certain times, it just doesn't work. Their percentages of of 905 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: of working aren't right, or they don't figure in the downside, 906 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: like because most coaches, you know this, they coach from 907 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,479 Speaker 1: what if it doesn't work right, that's what you should do. Yeah, 908 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: not oh, if it works liquid, we're gonna have. But 909 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: looking at the number of special teams improved a lot 910 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: last year the year before. And I mean, I think 911 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: he's fun even today at practice when players, you know, 912 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: stretching and warming about the beginning he had the football 913 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 1: in the middle field, who's only just throwing it up 914 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: and catching it, you know, having finally, he brings so 915 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: much energy and talking to the players. Last year, I mean, 916 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: they loved playing for Really, he's a good coach. He 917 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: really is a good Yeah. He created an enthusiasm there 918 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: so well, he knew we needed it. Yeah, he knew 919 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: we needed it. You know, those Gambles we were flailing 920 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: offensively and even flailing in every way. And to answer 921 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: the guy's question, I think that they've upgraded the linebacker 922 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: spot so that immediately upgrade special teams and to go 923 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: with the improvement from last year. As he said, right, No, 924 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 1: that's that's a good point. I think we're gonna be well. 925 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 1: Especially Hey, guys, how many times have I said it. 926 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: I get tired of us trying to depend on just 927 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: offense defense. All the good teams I've been on. You 928 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: have every weapon available. The Cowboys had every weapon available. 929 00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: Special teams was important the practice itself. Sometime, Tom LANDI 930 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,720 Speaker 1: would come see it in the practice in the meeting 931 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 1: room special teams head coaches in the Yeah. I guess 932 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: the fact that he was a punter that kind of helps. 933 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: That he could kick the ball, so he understands the 934 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: importance of it. We're going to need everybody this year, 935 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 1: just like we needed everybody and every facet of the 936 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: game last year. We're gonna need it. That's Fossil's philosophy. 937 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: He said that from day one joining the staff, he 938 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 1: wants his players to know that special teams can make 939 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 1: a difference and that you know, they are important. They 940 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,240 Speaker 1: can play a role. And we saw that a couple 941 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 1: of times last year. Special write the Watermelon Kicks Atlanta. 942 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean, god, I forgot about the watermelon kick. That 943 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: was very cool. Dan Quinn hasn't forgot about it. I 944 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: don't think he thought it was that cool. Did you 945 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: hear his story? No, the first day he walked into 946 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: the building, you know, whatever screen he went by, they 947 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 1: were replaying stuff and he said, I walk in and 948 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: it's like, ah, no way, the watermelon kick. Kids watching 949 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: it get he goes. I can't even run away from it. 950 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,839 Speaker 1: And let's face it, guys, any great play is not 951 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: just made by great people. Sometimes some food screwed up. Yeah, 952 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: that's just the way it goes. Some food screwed up. 953 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: That Falcon player was right there. Yeah, he could test 954 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: the ball at anytime. And I don't know if he 955 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: didn't know that he could get it. The rules, so 956 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: they've they changed the rule on how to line up 957 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: now for the for the on side kick because of 958 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 1: the watermelon. I don't know if it was because of 959 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 1: the watermelon, but you can't, um, you can't overload one side. 960 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: It's got to be five. And I know, you know, 961 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: it took the teeth out of what they were trying 962 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: to do, is is reduced the percentages of the offensive 963 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: team recovering the ball. I mean the defense of the 964 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: defense kicking team, the defensive team they were they were 965 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 1: just hoping that maybe the offensive team can recover more 966 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 1: so from a defensive standpoint. Uh. Well, they they took 967 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: away it's affectiveness initially, and now they're trying to bring 968 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: it back, right, so they sort of I think what 969 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: they what they took away was kind of the pooch 970 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: kick up in the air, like everybody has to be up. 971 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 1: You can't have and you can't get running start. Yeah yeah, right, 972 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: so anyway, but yeah, I think, you know, and they've 973 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 1: they've got some young guys. The receiver they drafted, Semi Fujoco, 974 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 1: he basically pointed out, right, I can play special teams, right, 975 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 1: I make some tackles. Uh. And I think he blocked 976 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: a kick at Stanford, if I remember, that's all he 977 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: is I think he may have started that before he 978 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: ended up with a wide receiver. But he he's got 979 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: something too. I saw him today caught one pause on 980 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: the on the move and uh, he's got good hands. 981 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: So this will be I think there'll be some competition 982 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 1: at that wide receiver spot for four and five and 983 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: maybe to convince him to keep six. Let's let's be real, guys, 984 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,919 Speaker 1: four and five they are instrumental on third downs for us, 985 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: especially as many times as we fell behind or the 986 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 1: top guys got hurt. Yes, yeah, and we had we 987 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 1: had some Cedric Wilson coming in and doing the great keep. 988 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of practice because Amori Cooper wasn't practicing. 989 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 1: It was Sedrick Wilson that was out there. He looked good. Yeah, okay, 990 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't think he dropped the house. Looked good. I 991 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: think he's got something. Just don't ask him to throw 992 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: the ball. Hey, you've never a touchdown pass? Well, you 993 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: should have thrown another out. I do have a question, 994 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: super early on from all of this, now that you've 995 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, watched a practice, you know they're back practicing, 996 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 1: which position group are you most excited to see competition? Wise? 997 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Kind of pan out the next couple of months. Mhmm, 998 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: you've got eighteen dbs. I think I think the secondary 999 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 1: right right? And and I agree, like do they need 1000 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Kean O'Neill to play linebacker or is he a safety? Um? 1001 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: You know what will those other safeties do? Uh? Curse 1002 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: and Wilson just came and Demante? Uh why can't I 1003 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: keep remember that guy? Zaze Curse and Kazi? All right? 1004 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: I got it now? Uh Hey, I'm interested to see 1005 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: what happens there because there's a little bit of a 1006 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 1: log job jam. And then the other thing is who's 1007 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: my backup swing tackle? Because I don't think we know 1008 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: I know they they they signed tie In, the seci 1009 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: veteran guy who has started games. Uh, lastly Washington by 1010 01:00:54,520 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: the way. Um, but now, can Tarren Steel step up 1011 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: up and like do something? I noticed Brandon Knight they 1012 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 1: actually had him at guard, uh when Zack Martin wasn't 1013 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: out there. Uh so can can one of those three 1014 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 1: guys step up and say I got this? Or might 1015 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Josh Ball the rookie they drafted in the second fourth round, Uh, 1016 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: step up and say hey, I can do this. But 1017 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a position not only backup quarterback, but 1018 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a position. Uh, that'll be interesting to 1019 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: see who's your center. Well, they they had a bunch 1020 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: of guys with their hand on the ball before practice started. 1021 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 1: Uh it was because Beadish was snapping elsewhere. So the 1022 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 1: rookie that they signed, uh Fijoko Farneyac. How you say it, 1023 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Farney acc, Farney Oak, Matt Farney Oak. Yeah, so he's 1024 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: going to be a center. He was he was, he 1025 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: was a guard, but they moved him to center. Uh, 1026 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 1: everybody from Nebraska on offense, Connor and I'm Connor McGovern. 1027 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm signing anybody from a Nebraska on the offensive line, 1028 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 1: it's good with you. Yeah. Connor McGovern was doing some 1029 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: pre snaps, as was Connor Williams. Uh So yeah, we'll 1030 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: see how that one plays out. Right now, I don't 1031 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: know what the rookie can do, but I would think 1032 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: they've got to work Connor McGovern there behind Beadish and 1033 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: then see how it how it plays out. I think 1034 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 1: they don't want to have to use more salary cap 1035 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: money to bring back Joe Looney question. Yeah, I think 1036 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 1: that that that might be the because no one has 1037 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: signed them yet, so that might be the emergency thing there. 1038 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, backup center, backup offensive tackle, backup quarterback. But 1039 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: you know what, we're not so much worried as starting spots. 1040 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 1: It's basically what you thought from last year. So yeah, 1041 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 1: after last year's fiasco went down, now you're backup, so 1042 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 1: extremely important. Yeah, realized that. Yeah, absolutely, So I think 1043 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: those are a couple of the things that we've got 1044 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: to and we won't get a chance to answer him 1045 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 1: in OTAs because there's no pads on. So we're going 1046 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 1: to have to wait till training camp. And you know, 1047 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 1: and I know we always sit here and go, okay, 1048 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 1: good training camp started, Now we can figure this out. 1049 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 1: And then the first three days of training camp. That's 1050 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: basically ot A, right, I think too. Another spot is 1051 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 1: interior defensive line. Tristan Hill was out there, but he 1052 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: wasn't practicing. He was doing like strength conditioning stuff. He'll 1053 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: be ready, you think. I mean he started because he 1054 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: tore his ACL in the fourth or fifth same as 1055 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 1: same as Dack fifth game, right week five, So I 1056 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: see him doing his rehab by the kid and he's 1057 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: running by the kid. That was unfair. We talked about 1058 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 1: it because he got hurt. He got hurt the same 1059 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 1: week and his dad. We thought that was so unfair. 1060 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 1: He didn't get all the glory. Yeah, you know what, 1061 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 1: I took all the all the you know what. It 1062 01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 1: reminds me of back in when Emmett Smith broke while 1063 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: the Peyton's record, Uh, Darren Woodson broke the Cowboys single 1064 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: season tackle record really or career record, I can't remember 1065 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 1: which it was. And it's like, yeah it was career okay, 1066 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: thanks Chris. And it was like bad day I've never 1067 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 1: heard till today. Yeah, bad game to do it. And 1068 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 1: that was always our joke when we would fly and 1069 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: the weather would get real bad, you know, and it's like, 1070 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: if this thing goes down, the bast last paragraph also 1071 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: perishing in the crash, you're you're gonna be called staff staff. No, 1072 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you a big called same thing. We got 1073 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: called in when we had the bus crash and they 1074 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 1: pointed out that there was four people from the Cowboys 1075 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 1: organization in the bus, but there was no coaches, there 1076 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 1: was no players, there was no front office people. It 1077 01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 1: was non essential. No. I said, you know what if 1078 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: my mother will be missed there and there no one 1079 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 1: that would be missed y're okay, guys, Well there, it 1080 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We're good. And the and the and the 1081 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 1: and the kind of saddest, the funniest part, and it 1082 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: was funny. So this happened to like one thirty in 1083 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: the afternoon, but we were on our way back to 1084 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: training camp that night. We figured we didn't want to 1085 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 1: stay in a hotel, and so we found the guy 1086 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 1: that was the driver that was taking us to Vegas 1087 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, I can get you the ox 1088 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 1: Nard And it's like, we'll be better off showing up 1089 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 1: at four in the morning than staying in a hotel 1090 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 1: and to have to take all our stuff out and 1091 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: fly and then somebody's got to come and get us. 1092 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 1: So it was about midnight or one o'clock, and we 1093 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: started looking to see how people wrote about it and 1094 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: the different apiece stories, and one of them they identified 1095 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 1: identified Emery the bus driver. They identified me because I 1096 01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 1: had been blogging or tweeting whatever we were doing about it, 1097 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 1: so they knew my name. And then the other two 1098 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 1: were a videographer and Rowdy Wow. Rowdy. Rowdy was on it. 1099 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: Rowdy was on the trap and I read it looks 1100 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 1: like so I read it and I looked at Foster, right, 1101 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 1: he was rowdy, and I said, it's a damn good 1102 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: thing that Rowdy didn't kill, because I said, a damn 1103 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 1: good thing you didn't die, because then they would have 1104 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: had to get another another mascot, because Rowdy would have 1105 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 1: been killed. And he looked and he goes, I'm a person, 1106 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 1: I got a name. I'm not a character. Yeah, as 1107 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 1: you go walking around with a soul on. It was 1108 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 1: it was a sign of great reporting that was going on. 1109 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, our poor business, our poor business. 1110 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 1: I think we went over time, didn't we? Did we? 1111 01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: All right? That's uncle. See Scott get my money, goes Scott. Danny, 1112 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: and I will go, oh, we missed lunch, didn't we? 1113 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Um not me? Oh you thought ahead. I thought I had. 1114 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 1: I dipped out the last like three or four minutes 1115 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 1: of practice. Well you got here stairs to the room. Man, 1116 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 1: that's good. That's a good food of this bags. We 1117 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: should have got it here a couple of years before. 1118 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 1: And think about that. I thought we were going to 1119 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 1: be done at like one o'clock. I didn't know we 1120 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: were going to go that long. So well then we 1121 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: better go. One of us is hungry. All right, Danny, 1122 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 1: thanks for sitting in. Thanks and you might and you 1123 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 1: might have to make another appearance if you can next Tuesday, 1124 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 1: because I'm not going to be here. I'll see if 1125 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 1: I compen see if you got time in your busy schedule. 1126 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: You'll be back. And uh Bill will be back. He 1127 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 1: had golf duty the Colonials. This tough work in for 1128 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean, in this rain kind of I's doing sitting there. 1129 01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 1: It was an interview. He not coming ready. All right, 1130 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 1: that's it for mix shots on this Tuesday. After that 1131 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 1: OTA practice and we'll see you guys next week. Go Cowboys. 1132 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1133 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.