1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. You ever go into a house from the 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: forties and look at the windows, It's a pulley and 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: trolley system right with weights that you know, hang on 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: the cable and it pulls it. There's a metal waiting 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: there the old style windows. That's what this eleven c 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: N is using. The Car Doctor. Drummers are the best 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: break bleaders because you can teach them the one to count. 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: It's if somebody's got musical inclination, they make better break bleaders. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage to orders are open, 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: five five six and now running. There's always something new 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: to learn in order to repair or mechanical things or 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: what not to do. And don't do this because you'll 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: get yourself in trouble. And it doesn't have to necessarily 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: be about cars, but just operating things mechanically. I mowed 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: the lawn at the house today before I you know, 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: got in and came over to the studio, and you know, 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: I went out there. It was a bright sunny day 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: in New Jersey and I went out there. I had 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: my sunglasses on and I went out to the shed 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: and I took the lawn mower out of the shed 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: and I looked, and it's a fairly new lawn more 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: it's just this year. And you know, I looked at 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: the gas tank and they have a little they have 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: a little eye window in the in the side of 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: the tank, you know, against the black plastic cover. And 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: I looked at it and it was full. It was 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: it was dark, and you know, I said, okay, good, 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: and I started mowing the lawn and then it started 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: to die. You know. I got about, you know, eight 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: nine minutes in and it started to cut out, and 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: then it was okay. And then it started the cut 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: out again, and then it was okay. And I said, God, 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: the things acting like it's out of gas. I said, 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: but it can't. It's got a full tank of fuel 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: in it. Then I realized that had my sun glasses 41 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: on and it was bright and sunny. Right hey, listen, 42 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed to admit it. I took my sunglasses off. 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: I looked at it again. Yep, we're out of gas, 44 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, low and behold, put gas in it. 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: Mechanical things, internal combustion engines always work really well with 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: gasoline in them. So rule number one, always check the 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: gas in the lawnmower. Not wearing your sunglasses. So I 48 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: love it, don't be Tom, and right, And I'm not ashamed. 49 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed to admit it. I'm going, how could 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: this be? How can I be running out of gas? 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: It was full. I get a lot of dust in 52 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: my yard and the little cyc glass on mine gets 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: all dusty and you look at it and go gas 54 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: and it Yeah, I you know so, but um, you 55 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: know it. Just you gotta be sure what you're looking 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: at because mechanical maintenance is just very very important. And 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, we'll listen, Tom, let me do this too. 58 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: While we're on the subject mechanical maintenance. For Frank and Colorado. 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: Frank brought up an interesting point. We were talking to 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: him in between the hours of the show this week, 61 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: and uh, he's telling us about the wildfires out in 62 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: colar Otto, out west right California and Portland's Washington and 63 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: all that up and around the Northwest, and you know, 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: the ash problem is really severe, and our our thoughts 65 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: and prayers are with all of you out there. And 66 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: when the dust settles, no pun intended, and you take 67 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: back to driving again, think about some maintenance on the car, 68 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: because all that ash is gonna get drawn up into 69 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: the vehicle. What's the air filter looked like? What's the 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: cabin filter looked like? You know, make sure you wash 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the car, get the ash off the paint so you 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: don't hurt the exterior. I realize you've got bigger things 73 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: going on right now. But some basic maintenance, you know. 74 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: It's it's cars. Cars have a spirit in a sense, 75 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: and they'll h they'll have to be taken care of 76 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: the when when when when the time comes. So but 77 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: for Frank and Colorado and everybody else out west way, uh, 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: you know, thoughts and prayers to you and good luck. 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: So let's kick the garage doors open. Let's get over 80 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: to ben in Virginia. Oh one, Lexus and some problems 81 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: with the cylinder. Misfire man. We spoke about this car 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: a couple of six seven months back. We not, yes, sir, 83 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: we did down in uh down in Virginia Beach at 84 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: the car show at the remote I remember this, So 85 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: where's this car stand? I remember this car was? Um, 86 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: this car has a Uh. It had an intermittent misfire 87 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: problem going on refresh everybody's memory, correct, you have for 88 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Really, uh, intermittent as far, 89 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: most of the time I was on selling the number two, 90 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: been in and out of the dealer um two or 91 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: three or four times. They could never pin upon it, 92 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: give it back to me, and it was run okay 93 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: for you know, thirty days or so. Sometimes it didn't 94 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: run good that long. So I took it back in again, 95 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, three months ago, and they looked at 96 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: it again. They claimed they changed the coil, moved it 97 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: from number two to number six. And uh, they said 98 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: them as far, I didn't go with the coil. It 99 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: was so they diack most of us having a low 100 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: compression reading on number two cylinder. Okay, So they moved 101 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: the plug to number six. I'm sorry, the coil to 102 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: number six. Just for giggles? Did they move the plug? 103 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: I didn't tell me not to day. And I'm assuming 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: they would, you know, because normally you would move you know, 105 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: you'd move the coil to six, the plug to for 106 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: or whatever, just you know, start splitting things up, move 107 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 1: things around. Does it follow the plug, does it follow 108 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: the coil? Does it stay with the cylinder? Okay, I 109 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: was gonna say, but you know now they're telling you 110 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: it's got fifty pounds of compression, yeah, in that cylinder? Correct? 111 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: But why is it intermittent? What what I'm what I'm 112 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm getting at here? Is I want 113 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: a definitive answer. I don't want Well, it's got fifty 114 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: pounds of compression, because I know what you're gonna tell me. 115 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me. They said you need an engine, Yeah, right, Um, 116 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: when you can't, when you can't diagnose it, just replaced 117 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: the whole fun it's easier. So, you know, did they 118 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: do a wet test, did they do a dry test? 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: You know, did they put a little oil in the 120 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: cylinder and did the compression go up? If it did, 121 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: it's a ring issue. If it didn't, it's in the head. 122 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's got a it's got a valve problem. 123 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: But it just doesn't sound like they were very thorough 124 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: about this. And it's been going on for a couple 125 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: of years right overall, Yes, sir, it has been for 126 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: a couple of years. I would get somewhere between thirty 127 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: five and five thousand miles in the mis far would 128 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: come back as that go back in. First off, they 129 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: we changed this. All the coils, wires, and plugs have 130 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: been changed probably three times in the last eight by 131 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: the dealer because by the deal about the deal, well, 132 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: initially I change them, but I put aftermarket stuff in. 133 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: Lexus always said you can't use aftermarket stuff with a 134 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: Lexus engine. Well right, well, and guess it sounds like 135 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: they changed it and that still didn't help, and then 136 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: they changed it again. Correct. Who's who's diagnosing this? The 137 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: cats and Jammer kids. So you know, let's let's make 138 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: an assumption you and I because it sounds like you 139 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: were them somebody between you can figure out it's not ignition. Right, 140 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Let's assume it's not ignition. We're down. We're down. We're 141 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: down to fuel, and we're down to mechanical if we 142 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: eliminate fuel, if we want to say it's not fuel, Okay, um, 143 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: you know we're we're down to it's a mechanical issue. 144 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: And I think you'd have to approach this that I 145 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: don't know. This is the answer I gave you seven 146 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: months ago. We'll see how consistent I am. You know, 147 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: I think you'd have to approach it that. If you 148 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: prove it's it's mechanical, then you know it's not fuel, 149 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: and vice versa. It would be easier to prove or 150 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: disprove mechanical. So compression test, wet dry cylinder, leakdown test, 151 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: running compression test, take a bore scope, look at the valves. 152 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: Do we see heavy carbon deposits on that cylinder? How 153 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: many miles were on this? Yeah, it's not a lot 154 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: on those engines. This is the straight six if I 155 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: remember right, right? Yeah? And then how do we know 156 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: this doesn't have another valve train related issue? And I 157 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: think we talked about this at the car show. How 158 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: do we know this doesn't have a valve train related 159 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: issue causing the misfire? Um? How do we know it 160 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have a broken valve spring? And the spring winds 161 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: up and let's go, And yeah, it's a bunch of 162 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: things they got to look at here. I don't get 163 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: why this is so difficult. Well, I'm not a mechanic 164 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: by low means, I'm more of a uh, cosmetic body man. 165 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: But my thought was a broken valve spraying or something 166 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: like that moving around and causing the sentiment. But I 167 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: just think they got to the point they got tired 168 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: of me coming back, so they just said, Okay, we'll 169 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: sell you an engine, knowing I wouldn't buy one. So 170 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: I think you gotta. I think I think you gotta find, 171 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, for your own self satisfaction. Ben, I think 172 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: you gotta find somebody down there that wants to diagnose it, 173 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: that will really diagnose it. Pull the valve cover. It's 174 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: common sense. What do the valve springs look like? All right? 175 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: What does the cam look like? You know? Do a 176 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: cylinder leak test? Do you know what the cylinder leakdown 177 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: test is? Yeah, okay, let's put air in the cylinder. 178 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: Let's close off the valves, you know, either crank the 179 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: engine around or back off the rockers, et cetera. Doesn't 180 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: hold there and engines a big air pump. That's all 181 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: it is. If somebody's got a pore scope, the ability 182 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: to take the plug out and look at look at 183 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: valve to heavy carbon deposits. I mean, let's do at 184 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, if you want to try a science experiment 185 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: and do some form of a fuel system cleaning to 186 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: see if carbon deposits, you know, come clean and does 187 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: the engine change anyway that it runs. It's always possible. 188 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't like to do that because I'm gonna alter 189 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: the I'm gonna alter the test patient, if you know 190 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I would I would prefer that you, 191 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, I would prefer that you, um, you know, 192 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: get somebody to diagnose it. But you know, at that point, 193 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: let's go look at valves, Let's go do leakdown testing. 194 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: Let's pull the valve cover. Then you know you see 195 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: carbon deposits on the valves. You want to try some 196 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: Barriman fuel system cleaner. You can read about them Barryman 197 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: Products dot com and go through that process. But short 198 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: of that, I don't think you can justify an engine 199 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: at this point unless you really wanted to. In the car. 200 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: I don't think you could, you know, justify an engine 201 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: based on the way they've diagnosed that because this vehicle, 202 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: because I don't think they want to and I don't 203 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: know that they've done it completely. Um, it's a good guest, 204 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: change the engine. I'm sure it'll be fixed. Ha ha. 205 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Then you'll find out the injector driver's not right and 206 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: it's a PCM. But um, let's go through the engine 207 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: mechanically and see what you got. Call me back when 208 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: you find out more zero nine zero. The car doctor 209 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: returns right after this. Oh god, that's right. If you 210 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: call and we're not live, you can leave a message 211 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: and we'll call you back to get you on the 212 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: air with Ron eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. 213 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of Ron here he is, Hey, welcome back. Let's 214 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Bill in Illinois, seven hun 215 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: day and some issues with a cat ful Welcome Bill, 216 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: how can I help? Yeah? Uh, Ron, thanks for taking 217 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: my call. You will appreciate it. You're welcome. Yeah. I've 218 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: got an O seven. It's got about a hundred nine 219 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: thousand house on it and uh check engine light comes on. 220 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: Put it? Uh you know it comes up as a 221 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: t O and I just I don't know, I'm just 222 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: hit a little. This is just putting the you know, 223 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: I have a someone or myself put a can't let 224 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: a converter on it. Okay, it runs good. What's your 225 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: what's what's your what's your long term? What's your long 226 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: term plan for the car. Bill, Well, I've got a 227 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: seventeen year old in it, and U I inherited the car, 228 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: so I mean, I know it's since it was brand new, 229 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: I would like to keep it a little bit longer, 230 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: you know, umh is the seventeen year old going to 231 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: drive it through high school and then take it to 232 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: college or we don't know that yet at present time. 233 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: That's what it's kind of looking like, right right, So 234 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: this is this is sort of the kid's car in 235 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: a sense exactly. So when you say you clear the 236 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: fault and the fault comes back, does it come back? 237 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: You know? Two weeks, two months? Uh, six months? You 238 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: know how long period at a time. Sometimes it's two days, 239 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: sometimes it's seven days. So this has a hard fault. 240 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: This has a hard cat fault. Um uh, you know 241 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: it comes back right away. Any exhaust leaks in the 242 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: car that you can tell, I don't hear any. You know, 243 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: I haven't done a smoke test or I did. I 244 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: did try to reverse the vacuum cleaner, put it on 245 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: the exhaust and squirt you know, water and soap. I 246 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: didn't see anything. Well, you know, listen, the easiest way 247 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: I find I found over the years is I'll let 248 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: a car run, put it up in the air, obviously 249 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: being mindful. I'm on a lift, I'm you know, I'm 250 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: in a shop environment. But I'll just you know, put 251 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: this running vehicle over my head and obviously I'm aware 252 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: of all the implications of what that could be setting 253 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: the park and break and just being safe. And I'll 254 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: listen with a mechanic stethoscope, you know, just uh, and 255 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: I'll take the I'll take the needle point in. Then 256 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: I'll just us in with the rubber hose. I'll tell 257 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: you what you want to find. An exhaust leak, you'll 258 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: know it, uh, you know, and I'll just I'll just 259 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: run the hose, you know, anywhere in front of the 260 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: cat and anywhere immediately eight ten inches after the cat 261 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: is my big concern. So you know, if you hear 262 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: an exhaust leak before the cat, that's air intake that's 263 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: not accounted for by the mass air by the PCM. 264 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: So now it's going to affect CAT readings and that 265 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: can cause an exhaust lea can cause a catalytic converter failure. 266 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's just that important. Can you 267 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: get the car safely up in the air, up higher 268 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: than just being on your back in the driveway. I 269 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: don't have access to that, you know, but that's that's 270 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: how I would do it. And then you know you're 271 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: faced with you gotta put a cat on it, you know. 272 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: Do you know why the cat code sets? Do you 273 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: understand the theory behind it? Well, yeah, it's supposed to 274 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: clean the Uh you know that. It's like you said, 275 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: it's a pump, you know, engines a pump and it 276 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: cleans the exhaust or well here, here's here's here's what 277 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: it is. Okay, You've got a catalytic converter. Doesn't matter 278 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: the vehicle, they all work the same. You've got a 279 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: catalytic converter. You've got two sensors, one before it, one 280 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: after it. For the purpose of this conversation, we'll we'll 281 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: call them both oxygen sensors. All right. You get into 282 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: certain cars, newer cars, there one's an air fuel sensor. 283 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: The downstream one is generally always an oxygen sensor. But 284 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna for the purpose of the theory, you've got 285 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: two oxygen sensors. Right, the engines running the engine produces 286 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, byproduct of of combustion, and there's a certain 287 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: amount of oxygen in the exhaust, right, so the first 288 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: sensor will report oxygen content back to the computer. You know, hey, 289 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: it's got x x amount of oxygen is gonna produce 290 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: a higher or low voltage signal depending all right. Excess 291 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: oxygen creates a lean condition, creates a lean command, low voltage, 292 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: all right, you know, higher higher lack of oxygen creates 293 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: a rich condition, high voltage and someone, so the PCM 294 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: can read that. Catalytic converters next inline catalytic converter is 295 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: kind of like you're sitting at the counter your favorite 296 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: deli and you're eating a Hero all right, You're just 297 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: eating that Hero sandwich, eating that Hero sandwich, eating that 298 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: Hero sandwich. I'm from Jersey. It's lunchtime. Can you tell 299 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm hungry? Right? Sooner or later you burp? All right, Well, 300 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: that's kind of like what I know what a catalytic 301 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: converter is. A catalytic converter, by by its chemical design 302 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: and construction, will continue to swallow oxygen, hold oxygen, hold oxygen, 303 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: hold oxygen, hold oxygen. All right. Meantime, the downstream, the 304 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: sensor after the catalytic converter is reporting a lack of 305 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: oxygen condition, all right, and eventually that cat burps. Okay, 306 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: it reaches its storage capacity, and when it burps, it 307 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: releases the oxygen that it can no longer hold within 308 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: its shell for additional combustion. After the engine catalytic can burder. Right, 309 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: So we're trying to convert exhaust fumes before they get 310 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: out into the atmosphere. So they know that while that 311 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: catalytic converters eating its Italian hero um, that there has 312 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: to be a certain ratio difference between the err or 313 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: oxygen content in front of the cat versus after the 314 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: cat makes sense, it's it's a difference is generally the 315 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: industry accepted standard. So we're looking for a difference. If 316 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: it sees seventy eight, sixty forty, et cetera. It assumes 317 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: that the catalytic converter is not efficient and sets an 318 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: efficiency full P zero. But if there's an air leak 319 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: in front of the O two that downstream mode too. 320 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: What if the air leak is in front of the 321 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: downstream mode too. But after the cat, okay, it's gonna 322 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna drive that car crazy all day long. The 323 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: car is gonna think that the cats doing nothing, um, 324 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: and it becomes an issue. So bottom line, there's some 325 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: testing it has to be done, but that cat and 326 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: all likelihood has to be replaced. UM. You may want 327 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: to consider some aftermarket stuff. Make sure it's a good 328 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: quality part, you know, make sure it's something with a 329 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: good track record. The aftermarket cats won't last as long 330 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: as the O E cat, but you should get three 331 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: to five years out of it. Stoff by your local 332 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: O'Riley Oto Parts and talk to them see what they've got. 333 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: To find them more out online at o'rileyoto dot com. 334 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: Any more questions, Bill, give me a shout. I appreciate it. 335 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor. We'll back led 336 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back right on any of the car doctor. 337 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: Let's go over to Sean in Iowa. Three Chevy and 338 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: some comments and questions about trans flush and welcome to 339 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir. How how can I help? Hello? 340 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: Run quick one for you here? Uh Chevy four L 341 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: eight E tranny on there. I think about a thirteen 342 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: court system and I'm very diligent about changing transmission fluid 343 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: dropping the pan new filter. Uh five courts of oil 344 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: back in every two years they do it, which is 345 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: about twenty miles for me. And I was talking to 346 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: a training guy and I'm not gonna flush it, but 347 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: I said, what's the next best thing? And he said 348 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: the next best Well, he said, don't flush it. But 349 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: what I would do if you want to exchange all 350 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: that fluid is to exchange it. Uh, take five courts out, 351 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, put a plastic coals of vinyl holes on 352 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: the end of the outlet. They're off the radiator. Get 353 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: five out, put five in. You know, take another five out, 354 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: put another five in, another five out, put another five 355 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: and you would have a clean system. Yeah, that work. 356 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: We do that. And you know what's showing. I've got 357 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, it's it's one of my daughter's Toyota. 358 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: She's got a what is it, a Forerunner. It's at 359 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: the shop right now. We're gonna do it Monday, and um, 360 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: there's no way to do an exchange. We're gonna do 361 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: it right through the cooler lines off the radiator. And yeah, 362 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: that works. Absolutely, not too much, not too much detergent 363 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: with with cots in there that it's gonna scrub up 364 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: too much stuff though, Well, you know, the issue here, 365 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: the thought process here becomes if you've been changing the 366 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: fluid on a regular basis, and we've been doing it 367 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: to hers on a regular basis. If you're changing the 368 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: fluid on a regular basis, varnish doesn't form. Okay, now 369 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't want to jinx myself, but 370 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: you know, in forty six years, forty five years, in 371 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: a long time of fixing cars, uh, you know, I 372 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: probably count on one hand the number of trans is 373 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: that have actually failed and the trans fluid exchange. And 374 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna use the word flush. I hate the 375 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: word flush. Flush the note to pray sure to me, 376 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: we're just doing a simple, gentle exchange. Uh, you know, 377 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: doing it um doing it as an exchange. I think 378 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: we've lost maybe two trans is in forty something years. 379 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: And in both cases I could probably look back at 380 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: my notes if I had them, if I still do, 381 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: and I might, And you know, we were at that 382 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: point where the trans was done, but at the insistence 383 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: of the customer, they wanted to spend another so that 384 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: they could justify why they're not going to fix it 385 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: or fix it, if you know what I'm saying. So 386 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: people do desperate things at desperate times. What you're doing 387 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: as far as maintaining and changing the fluid on servicing 388 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: that trans is actually pretty spectacular. That's the right way 389 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: to do it. And I wouldn't have any qualms about 390 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: doing in exchange with that, I wouldn't worry about particulate. 391 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: You know, at some point, will it fail? Yeah, it's 392 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: a ninety three brother, you know, it's it's almost thirty 393 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: years old. It's twenty seven years old. Act right, yeah, 394 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: it's it's keep it right, yeah, it's listen sometimes, you 395 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: know what, there's a lot to be said for older vehicles. 396 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's sometimes parts are in issue, sometimes rust 397 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: is an issue. But if you stay on top of 398 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: both of that, you know, we can source things and 399 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: keep things running. And and you know, we know where 400 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: the faults are in the older vehicles, and a lot 401 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: of that goes a long way towards your pairing and 402 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: maintaining cars today. So um, good for you. It all 403 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: makes sense to me. Do you're welcome, sir, You're very welcome. 404 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: You'll be well, thank you, Sean. Let's get over and 405 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: talk to Let's go talk to Ron and moose Head Lake, Maine, 406 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: in the fifty ron. Welcome to the car, doctor, sir, 407 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: this will get confusing. Go ahead, Hi, how are you to? Um? 408 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: I was tempted to say what's up top, but I 409 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: think you're more attempted to say what's up rong? Yeah, 410 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: Well you know it's that's why I'm not gonna say 411 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: my name here. I'm just gonna let's just talk about 412 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: this truck. What's going on with it? We'll confuse everybody. Well, 413 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: I was driving along, lost my steering. The hydraulics, of course, 414 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: uh uh failed and luckily has about a quarter of 415 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: a mile away from my destination friends house, and so 416 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: I was able to pull it into his yard and 417 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: uh put the hood up and the fan. It was 418 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: touching the radiator, so it's sort of come uh loose 419 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: from the from the water pump a ten degree angle 420 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: didn't damage the radiator, but the cooler ones that leak fluid. 421 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: There was coolant all over the inside of the engine compartment. Uh. 422 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: The serpentine belt was pretty well shredded and uh so 423 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: it was down for the count. So I've been trying 424 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: to get parts and pieces. Uh it's a has uh 425 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: just over five and fourteen thousand miles just broken in. Brother, 426 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: keep going yeah, yeah, it's about halfway there, right, yep, ye, 427 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: So so what's the issue? You can't find parts or 428 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: why did it happen? As the question, I've been accumulating 429 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: parts and I don't know why it has failed. I 430 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: haven't taken the part yet. And somebody says, well, maybe 431 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: I should let the experts do another nine bolts hold 432 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: it in, and he said, what if you share went off, 433 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: then you have all kinds of problems. So um, I 434 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: booked it into a local garage, and uh uh, he 435 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: seemed to think that it wouldn't be too much trouble. 436 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: I did look online at YouTube and see how some 437 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: of the guys do it. But then some of the uh, 438 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: you know you need special tools to get that clutch 439 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: assembly on the fan off, Well you either need you 440 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: either need special tools and you didn't and you didn't 441 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: hear from this from me. So you have to get 442 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: close to the to the phones, right, so I can 443 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: just whisper to you somebody else. Here's if you take 444 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: an air chisel, about an eighteen inch air chisel with 445 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: adult with a dull end, and just kiss the nut 446 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: in the right direction, which is opposite rotation. You can 447 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: get the you can get the fan blade to come off, 448 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: all right. The air chisel is your friend. Don't tell anybody, 449 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: all right. Um, I've tried, I've got I've got all 450 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: the special tools. I actually have the factory tool. It's 451 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: this big, giant, I don't know, thirty six millimeter ranch 452 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: with a bend in it to clear the pulley in it. 453 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: You know, you know what those things are on there? 454 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: So tight um. You know, people will say to me, 455 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: my god, you're putting an air chisel against the water 456 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: pump against the fan. Not yeah, the water pumps bad. Anyway, 457 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: we're changing it. Who cares? I want to get it apart. Uh, 458 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: you know. So an air chisel, and even if it's 459 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a point in the chisel, 460 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't sit there and hammer on it. I just 461 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: use it to kind of shock the nut loose and 462 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: get it to wake up to the point where I 463 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: can loosen it up and you know, at least get 464 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: it off the vehicle. Uh you know. And and that's 465 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: from the guy who's got the special tool hanging on 466 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: the wall. And I can tell you it doesn't always work, 467 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, probably more often than not, it doesn't work, so, um, 468 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: you know out of the block to replace the assembly. Um, 469 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: they're sort of like a number eight hardened steel or 470 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: they might what type of steel are the bolts at 471 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: held at the end of the block, you know, Ron, 472 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never had one break. I can 473 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: tell you that it's it's you know, I've I've never 474 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: had one snap or break. I would tell you to 475 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: maybe get them started. Shoot a little rust penetrant, grab 476 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: yourself some PB blaster and get it under the head 477 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: of the bolt and let it creep down there and 478 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: sit for a while and let it do its job. 479 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: And you know, by all means, especially on something this age, 480 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: this mileage, and you know, let it do its thing. 481 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: But I've never had one break. I've never had an issue. 482 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: Usually the pumps just come right apart. I'm sure you've 483 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: been doing cooling system maintenance to this on a regular basis. 484 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: Most diesel owners are smart enough. Um, you know this 485 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: is seven three power stroke, right, I'm a I'm a 486 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: first timer with this one, okay, Um, your first time 487 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: of what you I do maintain it myself. I change 488 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: the oil every three thousand miles and felt that sort 489 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: of thing. Just you've owned the truck since new though, 490 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: you're saying, right roun. My brother bought it second hand 491 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: and I inherited it from him when he passed away. 492 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: He was a Vietnam Vet and he developed a l 493 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: S from being exposed to agent orange about eight years ago. 494 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: I got his two trucks. His other truck was four 495 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: fifty that has eight hundred and sixty four thousand miles 496 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: on it. But I guess it kind of I guess 497 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: it kind of runs in the family iron that things 498 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: seem to go a good long time there. So, Um, 499 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: but I'd like to get our money's worth out of 500 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: the vehicles. Well you you definitely do, my friend, you 501 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: definitely do so. But um, like I said, you know, 502 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: take it apart, take the fan apart, like the way 503 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: I told you. If you have any other questions, you 504 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: give me a shout back. Let me move along here. 505 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Um. I want to try and 506 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: get to everybody today. Thanks, Ron, and Uh, I appreciate 507 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: you tuning in. Let's get over to Kurt with a 508 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: third teena escape and some questions about a transistione. Kurt, 509 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car, Doctor, sir, how can I help? Yes, uh, 510 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: I was going up a hill one thing, and I 511 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: lost all momentum acceleration right, and it jumped out of gear. 512 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: So I pulled on the side and shut it off. 513 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: And when I started to back up, there was a 514 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: humming noise like coming from underneath. And now when you 515 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: put it in drive should have road from my two 516 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: or three minutes. I mean, you feel the car start jumping, 517 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: and then she won't she won't do anything. You won't 518 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: even moving. All right, I'll tell you what. I'll tell 519 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: you what. Kurt, Sit tight. Let me pull over and 520 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: take a pause because we're gonna get into this a 521 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: little deeper. When I returned, the car doctor will be 522 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: back right after this, the car doctor, Kurt from me, 523 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: And you're still there, sir. Yes, sorry, we had to 524 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause, so let's refresh our 525 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: memory again. You were traveling uphill and the trains started 526 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: to do what Yes, I lost all acceleration and the 527 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: car as I accelerated, the car didn't rev up or 528 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't pulling a mething and on the Sutton, I 529 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: just like it jumped out of gear. So I let 530 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: I let off the accelerated and jumped back in gear, 531 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: and I put over to the side and I shut 532 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: it off. And when I started it back up, there 533 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: was a honey noise like underneath and like underne by 534 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: the oil pan, by the transmission oil plans somewhere as 535 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: in that region and that And now when you started 536 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: and put it in gear, and how many noises there? 537 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: And then you know going drive, you know, going reverse, 538 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: and they'll go in sport and they will only roll 539 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: for probably five or ten seconds, and then you feel 540 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: it started jerking like and then it jumps out of gear. 541 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: Has anybody have you taken it too a shop as 542 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: this home? How did you get how did you get 543 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: off the hill? Were you toad? Well? I was. I 544 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: was able to get it to move down the hill, 545 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: and I coasted it down because I live a couple 546 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: of driveways down from the hill, so I was it 547 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: was in my favor to go down the hill. And 548 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: then it rule. So you got it home? I got 549 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: it home. Said, okay, you know this could be as 550 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: simple as it's low on fluid, because the thirteen won't 551 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: have a conventional dipstick. How many miles are on this Yeah, 552 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: you know this could be this could be low on fluid. 553 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: Then the argument could be made where all the fluid go? 554 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: Two have you ever serviced the trans have you ever 555 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: changed trans fluid? Never? I got the car at a 556 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: hundred and five thousand, and I don't know if anyone 557 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: did anything before that. I've never I've never do anything 558 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: to the transmissition. No, no dashboard warning lights on at 559 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: this point. Nope. Nothing in the day before, we row 560 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: it all day in town. Never gave any trouble, never 561 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: did anything. Just yeah, and that's you know, that's what happens. 562 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's it's a bad analogy, but 563 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: it's the old story of my dead dog that isn't 564 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: dead yesterday, died this morning. UM sooner, sooner, sooner or later. 565 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: It has to so you know, basic diagnosis. I would 566 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: start with a code scan even though there's no lights 567 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: on in the dash and a fluid check and what 568 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: does the fluid look like? You know, that's that should 569 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: be LV style trans fluid. And I don't want to 570 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: tell I don't want to tell you that has a 571 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: finite life of around fifty or sixty thousand miles is 572 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: what Ford normally changes it at Uh. Some dealers will 573 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: tell you it's lifetime. I don't buy it. The ones 574 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: that make more sense to me or telling me the 575 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: truth and that they're they're seeing at fifty sixty, they're 576 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: seeing characteristics of driving habits. Um, you know, not being 577 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: the greatest. The trans starts to act up. Now you 578 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: don't know if at a hundred and five do you 579 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: know the service history prior to that, so you know, 580 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: it could have been serviced at fifty and then somehow 581 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: you got another hundred thousand miles out of it. It 582 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: could have been serviced at eighty and you've got you know, 583 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: eighty thousand miles out of it. So it's it's you know, 584 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: it could be this could be um, this could just 585 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: be a fluid issue. But UM, I wouldn't hold a 586 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: lot of hope. Start off with some basic diagnosis and um, 587 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, get fluid level checked and get code scanned 588 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: and then you can kind of make a decision from there. 589 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: I wish you luck eight five zero the car doctors 590 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: back right after this, Hey, welcome back in the car doctor. 591 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to Douglas in Virginia and 592 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: know what's going on with the ZO two Audie Douglas, welcome, sir. 593 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hellotle Ron, I love your show. 594 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: I've listened to it for a while. Now I hope 595 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: you and maybe some other car gods can help me 596 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: figure this out. I've got a two thousand two Audi, 597 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: a four quadrobe with the four cylinder turbo engine. You 598 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: know you know what out he stands for it, don't you, Douglas? 599 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm afraid to ask. It stands for a lot of things. 600 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: What do you think it stands for? Well, it depends 601 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: what this electrical problem turns out to be. But you'll 602 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: you'll understand it from right because, um it can it 603 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: can stand for another underpowered demonic invention. But go ahead, 604 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, um wow. And I think they're great cars. 605 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: They just do some great cars. They just do some 606 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: really crazy things. So, um, you know, But anyway, what's 607 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: this thing doing? It runs great, and it's so fun 608 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: to drive. It's got a manual transmission in the turbo 609 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: and all will drive. But but there's always a butt 610 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: when you start out that way, you know, I know, 611 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: the darn hazard lights the minute I turned the car 612 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: on will come on and stay on for approximately fifteen 613 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: to twenty minutes, no matter how it's driven, no matter 614 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: where it's driven, no matter what I do. I mean, 615 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: I've disconnected uses, disconnected, the battery reconnected it. No mechanic 616 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: can figure this out. The only thing that hurts me 617 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: about the car mainly is the hazard lights stay on 618 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: for like the first twenty minutes, uh, you know, running time, 619 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: and then once I'm on the freeway that they will 620 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: go off. Okay, I'll take it to work and I'll 621 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: get back in the car. They'll come on again and 622 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: go off in about fifteen to twenty minutes. At the 623 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: same time, the radio and the heater and the A 624 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: C don't work, and I've taken to the two people. 625 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: They can't figure it out. So that that demonic convention 626 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 1: part really starting to look pretty good now, isn't it. Actually? Yeah? Yeah, 627 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: um so listen, there's there's three components in the vehicle 628 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: that actually will control the turn signal bulbs in the 629 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: and and make it appear like the hazards are on. Okay, 630 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: the hazard switch, the hazard switch flasher assembly, the turn 631 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: signal switch, and the module that they put down under 632 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: your feet on the driver's side of the floor. All right, Now, 633 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: what I've seen on some of these, depending upon Have 634 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: you owned the Carson's New Douglas No, I have it. 635 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: I bought it used. I bought it. Honestly, I've only 636 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: had it for about seven or eight months. Okay, so 637 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, depending upon condition and care. I've seen water 638 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: get into that. They call it a comfort control module 639 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: on the driver's side of the floorpan. I've seen moisture 640 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: invasion there and that causes all kinds of chaos, particularly 641 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: what you're describing to me. I've also seen bad hazard switches. 642 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: What you can do is get it out to your 643 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: local mechanic, have them start to unplug the hazard switch. 644 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: Does the problem go away? The turn signal switch? Does 645 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: the problem go away? The comfort control module? Does that 646 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: have any effect on it? At least that's the starting point. 647 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 1: Call me back. I'm on any of the card doctor 648 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: mechanicuring expensive than prices