WEBVTT - Orange You Glad #RHOC is Back?! 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.760 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.239 I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.560 favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.360 and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.040 Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.680 Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.640 addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:37.879 scripted as well. Ray Drops Orange. You glad that The 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:43.040 Real Housewives of Orange County is back for the past 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:49.680 two seasons, I personally felt like our HOC was the 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:54.440 best show out of all the franchise. They literally have 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:59.720 the best two seasons consecutively, which is unheard of in 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:03.720 this new age of watching television. Let's be clear, Honey, 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:09.280 Atlanta will always be that girl. Okay, However, I will 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:13.399 always give oc as props for having the top show. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.720 They tied a little bit last year with Oh No, 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:21.360 with Salt Lake City. With Salt Lake City, shout out 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.400 to those ladies. But but blah blah blah blah, bah 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.160 blah blah blah blah blah blah. The past two seasons, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:38.559 Tamera Heather, Emily, Gina, Jennifer, Shannon, and Liar Liar Katie 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:45.960 on fire. But look I digress. So let's let's just 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:52.760 get right into it. Okay, so check this out. We 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:56.720 need to get into the season premiere. I thought the 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:00.560 premiere was solid. I'm looking forward to what the rest 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.160 of his season is going to bring. But one thing 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.520 I know it is not going to bring, Honey, is 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.720 Alexis back. I am sad to see Alexis not there, 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:17.160 especially since Shannon opened up the episode updating us that 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:22.119 she decided to settle with John and she paid him 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:27.680 sixty thousand dollars out of the money that he loaned her, 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.120 and Shannon made a joke that now the money can 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:38.160 be used to pay for John an Alexis wedding. So look, 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:46.760 that has been settled. I will say that I'm gonna 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:51.440 miss Alexis on the show because I look, before y'all 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:56.320 throw tomatoes at my head. Hear me out. I love 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:01.760 it when you have a reality star who is able 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:06.440 to sort of come into a situation and activate the 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:11.320 girls right like how Marlow Hampton will forever go down 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:15.080 in history as the best friend of in the history 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:20.080 of the real Housewives. No friend up will ever top 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:27.960 marlow Patrice Hampton. Marlow is top tier. She claim in 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.680 fucks some shuit up and went home. She went home 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.560 with a white man that she met the fourth seasons 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.880 the sofa ta I'm teasing, I'm teasing, that's that's a joke. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.120 But listen, marlow will come on to the set, child, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.440 gather the girls, activate them, and they go ahead and 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.680 live her soft life. That's why I love you, So Marlowe. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:55.000 Marlowe does not want to work a full time job. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.880 She has no desire. That's why she was excellent at 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.280 being a friend of So when you look at Alexis, 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.480 I will say I felt that Alexis brought out the 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:11.160 best of Shannon. My opinion. I know it's not a 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.800 popular one, but hey, this podcast is so you're liking 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:19.560 for a reason because my opinions are what real. So, Alexis, 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:23.760 you will be missed. But baby, that's sixty thousand dollars 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.719 I'm pretty sure will just be the down payment for 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.200 the million dollar wedding she and John are going to 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.880 have that's going to revival Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:43.560 in Italy. So I'm rooting for the Jensens. Okay, so 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.719 Shannla's great. She updated us of what was going on 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.159 in her life. Okay, so we appreciated that. But let's 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:55.479 get into the meat potatoes of this episode. The one 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.040 thing I felt that was missing in the premiere was 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:07.479 on fire and desire. Okay, it needed a little bit 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:12.880 of a kick, a little punch. It was nice to 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.280 see Tamar and Therapy would get to that in a second. 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:20.520 But I felt that, ay, y'all tell me if y'all 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.680 did not feel this way. I felt that all the 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.520 girls were kind of playing it safe. I thought that 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:30.040 MVP of this episode was actually Emily. I really did 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.599 enjoy Emily a lot in this episode. I thought she 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:38.479 was activated. I appreciated Emily giving us honesty when it 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:43.160 came to exactly what her son is going through, which 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:49.320 to me, my heart goes out to Emily dealing with 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:56.320 a son who isn't eating and the doctor first diagnosed 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:00.320 him as having a possible eating disorder, only to find 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:04.400 out that he could be autistic, which would make sense. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:12.720 I have a nephew who is autistic, and unfortunately, at 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.960 his age, he isn't able to eat a lot of 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:20.720 solid foods is just something that his parents are just 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.440 trying to get him to graduate from versus the sippy 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.680 cup in the bottle. So I'm happy that Emily and 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.760 her husband were able to really look at this situation 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.040 and really get down to the nitty gritty of it. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:42.800 But it was a powerful, powerful moment out of Emily, 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:48.279 who really did share a lot in this episode. So listen, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:54.559 raising a child who is autistic, and in this case, 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.440 we're going to watch the rest of the season to 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:00.200 see if he has been fully diagnosed as that. As 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:06.400 of now, it's a possibility. But any parent that has 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:13.160 a child who is autistic knows what a what a 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.680 tough job it could be, and how it takes a 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:21.480 lot of TLC to do a lot of work to 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:26.480 get them to a place of eating and just whatever 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:31.200 degrees of autism that they have. So Emily, if you're listening, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:36.760 my sweet baby, my heart goes out to you. I'm 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.080 pretty sure it's tough. I can only imagine, but I 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:44.320 will say this, you are a great mother. You are 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:49.040 a great mother. And one thing I told my brother 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:59.000 is God made sure that if any of us had 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:04.320 a child who was all God knew who the right 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.520 parents in my opinion, who was the best parent to 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.520 handle it? And I think my brother, who's a sweetheart, 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:16.360 is the perfect champ to handle something that is tough. 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.760 And Emily, if that happens to be his diagnosis, know 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.440 that God has put you in the best position to 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:32.480 be the best caregiver, caretaker, mother, friend, supporter for this boy. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.079 So my heart goes out to you. It was my 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.480 favorite part of the episode, honestly to see Emily in 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.160 that state, because as you all know, I love personal story. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.680 I love personal story, and I also love it when 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:49.920 someone is clocked lying. Katie, you are a danger girl. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:55.080 Demi Moore would be Goldberg. Where are you? Katie? I 0:08:55.120 --> 0:09:01.240 can't defend you and Katie to me, I said this 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.840 last season. I never felt that Katie was a star. 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.679 I didn't love her, but I did not dislike her. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.559 Does that make any sense? I didn't. You know, It's 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.920 sort of like when you're dating and you know, how 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:22.680 like you're dating somebody and the guy let me speak 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:27.680 to the girls and the gaze and the days, so listen, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.680 you know how like you meet a guy and you 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:39.680 know he's cute, but when he opens his mouth, it's 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:48.000 sort of like that calming app where the conversation puts 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.440 you to sleep, Katie puts me to sleep. I don't 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.080 see and Katie, if you're listening, I'm not throwing Shaye. 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.679 I'm being honest. I think you are a beautiful woman. 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:08.520 Katie's gorgeous actually, in the words of Aretha Franklin, beautiful gowns. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.160 In the words of Phaedra and Candy. When they went 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:17.640 to the beginning of Chata Charade season four, nothing was 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:25.960 there Katie. If Katie is the villain, I don't know 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.280 how this season gonna be. Katie is the worst villain 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:34.560 because Katie doesn't own up to anything, and she's not 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:49.040 She's not strong enough to like combat the girls like okay, okay, 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:55.079 road with me, guys. Katie will go down in history 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.880 as the worst villain that this franchise has ever seen. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.480 And when I say franchise, Honey, I mean all cities. 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:07.960 Because Katie doesn't have the teeth, she doesn't have the punch, 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:14.880 she doesn't have the gravataz. She's no Audriana on Miami Housewife. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:20.120 She's no ken Yamore, she's no Tamar Judge. And because 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.839 Tamar is dealing with something in therapy, which again we'll 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:27.480 get to that a second. We only have Katie and 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.400 now I'm like, well, shit, I see why they brought 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.240 Gretchen back, not saying that gretch would be the villain. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.320 I don't know what's going on on this on this 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.560 season of OC, but I can tell you off right now. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.880 I am not interested in Katie being the villain only 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.520 because she does not defend herself. Villains are interesting when 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.600 they're like, fuck you bitch. This is how I feel. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.600 I said what I said. Now what else is going on? 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:55.840 Go twirl over there? Okay, you want to sprinkle cookies? 0:11:55.960 --> 0:12:00.200 Like you know, like, what are we doing here? I 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:06.280 brought the laws to Rhode Island, break Marge to OC. Indeed, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.240 I don't know. It's a little quiet. It's a little quiet. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:18.959 But anyways, let me update y'all. Okay, so this is 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:26.679 the story. Remember last season when it was this whole 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:35.600 conversation about whether or not Emily was talking shit about 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:42.560 Heather around her children, and then Katie's daughter, who I 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:50.640 guess was a baby sitter or something child, she alleged 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:57.400 that Emily's kids told her that their mother talks shit 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:03.640 about Heather. Okay, so all that happened, Emily denied it. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.640 Heather forgave her. Katie said, my daughter said she heard him, 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.360 and my daughter's not a liar. Okay, fine, boo boo bon. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:23.600 So apparently the ex nanny of Emily's contacted Katie okay 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:30.720 to pretty much say to her, I can vouch that 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.000 Emily does talk shit about Heather around her kids, that 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:45.319 this is true. Katie is alleging that she told the 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:52.280 ex nanny to contact the podcast host from All About 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:57.800 the Real Housewives podcast to tell her side of the 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:02.240 story to them, right, not necessarily tell us how the story, 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:07.400 but like, girl, listen to this podcast because that's what 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:12.600 that's the podcast in which my daughter did an interview. Okay, 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.800 Katie's alleging she did not tell the ex nanny to 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.360 tell her story in the podcast, but she encouraged the 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:24.200 ex nanny to listen to her daughter's interview and then 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:30.880 two to three four business day's letter later, allegedly the 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.000 ex nanny is on that same podcast. So, as you 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.120 all know, the ladies over at All About the Her 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:40.600 Housewives have been on Reality with the King, Hey Michiganders, 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:47.240 and they have tweeted about this particular storyline and how 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:52.000 they are being used in this in this show. So 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.200 this is what they have to say, and I want 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:58.440 to read it directly from their tweets. Okay, are you 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:03.680 all ready for this? All about the Real Housewives said, 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.680 We did not seek out the babysitter. She came to us. 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:13.000 We've had a respectful relationship with Katie, as we do 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:18.440 with many housewives. We shared a small part of what 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:23.160 we were shown because Katie's daughter was being unfairly called 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:31.840 a liar by Emily. They go on to say in 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:36.080 the brief conversation, they have the babysitter. She showed us 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.880 what Emily said when she found out the babysitter spoke 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.160 to us, but we never shared the publicly. She also 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.520 show us pictures on photos for contexts, which we chose 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:51.240 not to post. She mentioned that her kids are aware 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.760 of a lot and that Emily often speaks freely around them, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:04.320 which isn't a big deal. They also tweeted Emily mentioned 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:09.720 concerns about people judging her parenting, but realistically, kids overhearing 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.840 things all the time. That alone does not define someone's 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.160 parenting skills. So that's what they have to say about that. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.360 Particular conversation that they had with the ex nanny. Now, 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.320 I'm gonna say this. One of the things we know 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:30.320 is reality shows are popular, and as the creator and 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:34.760 executive producer of them, I Carlos kingk love the bloggers 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.880 who take time out of their day to even recap 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.200 any show that I created because it helps the show 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:48.680 grow in ratings and audience. Okay, the bloggers, the content creators, 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:53.520 podcast hosts, I appreciate them all. There is, however, a 0:16:53.600 --> 0:17:00.280 slippery slope when you, as a current reality star on 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:10.480 a current reality show, start feeding things to the aforementioned people. Okay, 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.000 it's great to have a friendship, it's great to have 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:17.960 a relationship, but when you start to use them to 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.720 feed information to them for them to release publicly, that's 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.639 when things can get a little bit dangerous. I'm not 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:30.520 saying that's what Katie did in this particular situation, but 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.960 what I will say is everything's about intention, and Katie, 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:42.720 you are not dumb. Katie, to me, is incapable of 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.600 telling the truth. That whole situation with the car story, 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.960 remember that last season about her getting stoped by the car, 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:54.560 I mean, by the no somebody tried to like cuss 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.280 her out while they were driving, and she called the cops, 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.560 and the cops got involved and then went to the 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:05.720 person's how whatever. I think Katie's is a liar allegedly. 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.240 I just I don't buy anything that Katie is selling. 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.840 And every time she's confronted with something, she looks like 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.040 she's trying to come up with another lie on top 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:25.399 of the lie. And that's why it's hard for me 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:30.439 to like get her. I don't get Katie. Katie just 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:35.119 Katie doesn't have the I or the T or the 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:39.560 T or the eye or the UT. I I don't 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.560 Katie doesn't have nothing. Child. I don't know. Katie doesn't 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.159 have it. I don't understand it. I don't get it. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:46.760 I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.359 get it. Katie ain't it baby, she ain't it wrong? 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:56.960 Road recast return to send her bring back my girls. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.240 I mean, what are we doing here? I don't I'll 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:06.399 understand Katie's participation on the show. This is reality with 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.919 the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:17.080 the show. Okay, enough of my rant. So that happened 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:23.600 and we'll get to what happened at Shannon's event later 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.320 in the episode. But before we get to that, let's 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:34.560 do a round of applause. Q the clapping sound effects. 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:46.760 This season marks Tamor Judge as the longest running housewife 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:54.679 of all time. What this means is Tamra has had 0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:01.199 more seasons on their show than any other high she 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:09.399 has become the number one longest running housewife. Now what's 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:15.840 interesting is Shannon not Shannon Lord Jesus. Tamra started season two, 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:24.160 so as a season one I believe that title may 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:30.320 be a tie between Teresa and Kyle. I think Kyle, 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:36.040 after she finishes this season, will beat Teresa since Jersey's 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:42.560 on Paul. But nonetheless, Tamar Judge has made history as 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:46.400 the longest running housewife, So please give her a round 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:52.800 of applause. She is a formidable, fucking fantastic talent. And 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:58.080 I applaud Tamra judge participation on the show because, in 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:02.399 my opinion, there is no ver a housewatch of O 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:06.439 See without Tamra Judge. I said it and I stand 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:14.440 on it. Thank you. Tamar is in therapy. I'm dealing 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:19.080 with some of her past behavior. Now I'm gonna be 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.520 very honest with you when I saw that they were 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:27.080 showing Tamar in therapy. I'm like, oh gosh, please tell 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:31.400 me this isn't the you know, quintessential scene where it's 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:38.040 the amazing force multiplying villainous housewife who is going to 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.920 therapy to make herself likable for the audience. I'm like, oh, 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.280 my gosh, please tell me this isn't what is going 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.240 to be. I was happy to finish this scene to 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:54.360 be like, oh, this actually is not that. This actually 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:58.080 is Tamor trying to figure things out because of what 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.240 she is going through with her daughter and what she 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:04.520 is going through with her best friend Teddy Mellencamp, who 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:08.879 we all know have tumors in her brain and was 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:13.760 dealing with that while they were filming. My heart goes 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:16.080 out to Tamra. As you all know, my heart will 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:19.480 always go out to Teddy Walters, who is getting better 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.399 by the day. So keep your thoughts in prayers to Teddy. 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.320 But it was nice to see the softest side of Tamra, 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.879 I will say that. And to me, it wasn't like 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.200 I thought it was going to be, like a overly 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:39.240 produced scene to really make our villain look victorious. Once 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.040 you strip away all of that and you really lean 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:47.359 into what Tamra is going through currently. The reason why 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:51.680 it was a powerful scene is because she was able 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:57.160 to identify past behaviors, past trauma and how they showed 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:01.800 up today, but more importantly, how she is dealing with 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:06.840 something currently as it relates to your best friend who 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:11.760 also is your co host of the podcast, to tease 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:16.760 in a pod that is dealing with something so devastating. 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.600 So I've really enjoyed seeing Tamar in that position because 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:26.000 my hope is that she's able to really do the work. 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:29.679 And I also appreciated the fact that they were also 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:37.600 opening up about how Tamra did on her podcast, telling 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:42.760 us she was on the spectrum and how she needed 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:47.280 to have more information before she delivered that to the 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:51.439 millions of listeners that she has. So what's nice to 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:56.719 know that that was included. And one thing she mentioned 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:58.760 that I do want to address is the fact that 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:04.960 she has been dealing with online. And I've said this once, 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.919 I said it before, and I'll keep it cute and simple. 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:16.760 All reality stars are brave to come on these shows 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:22.520 to expose their real life, expose who they are. We 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.840 may love it, we may hate it. Have your opinion, 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:31.800 but to wish death threasts upon people, to attack people 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.480 to the point where you are just doing it for 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:40.880 a reaction. It will never be okay, and it's going 0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:45.880 to ruin the genre. It already is ruining the genre 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.680 because what you guys don't know is it's hard for 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.120 us to do our jobs, and it's hard for us 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:56.040 as producers, and it's hard for us working with kas 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:59.240 who want to give the real life but they're so 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:03.160 afraid to say anything because you guys will attack them. 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.399 I was happy to hear Tamara talk about how that 0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:15.159 affected her. I have spoken to Tamar personally when she 0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.280 was going through the bullying on social media, and look, 0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:22.399 I also understand, guys that a lot of people felt 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.520 she was bullying Shannon, and I said on my own podcast, 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.680 I did not like what Tamara was saying to Shannon. 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:33.880 I told Tama that to her as well. But I'm 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.800 not going to go on my podcast and rip her 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:40.720 a new asshole to the point where I am inviscerating 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.640 her character and wishing a death threat. I just say, 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:47.320 I think Katie's a beautiful woman who belongs, you know, 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.040 doing other stuff. I just don't think Katie is a 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:54.440 reality star. But I'm going to leave it at that, right, 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:58.359 I'm not gonna say much more than that, even as 0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.000 we get into the rest of them. So but my 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:08.399 point is there has to be a level of respect 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.800 when it comes to our stars being brave enough to 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:16.359 show us the real life. And the more you guys 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.919 do it, the less shows will have. And then what 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:31.760 we're gonna watch all day long? C Span. Okay, thank you, 0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:38.119 Now get back to the show. We gotta get to 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:40.560 Jen and Ryan. Now, y'all know I have a little 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:46.600 crush on Ryan. Ryan is still hot. I listen, I'm 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:50.680 gonna say this, Jen, I love you, baby, and this 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:54.640 is no disrespect. I think Ryan is the hottest guy 0:26:54.760 --> 0:27:01.720 on Bravo. Am I alone in this there is something 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:06.119 so rugged and just masculine and beefy. I think Ryan 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.240 is like the hottest big am I alone in this. 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:15.840 A few of my gaze agree with me, But let 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.240 me know in the comments do we think Ryan's hot? 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:31.119 I think he's so hot. I actually do the abs. 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.320 Like even when he was walking in the room and 0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.360 Jit is like, oh my god, you're so sexy, I'm like, Jin, 0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:45.480 you have never lied, bitch, he is so honey. Okay, 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:47.760 now this is the gag of the gay gat gag 0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:53.840 got gag gags in the episode Okay, my mouth was 0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:59.800 on the floor when Jen said this. When Jen alad 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:06.000 that Tamra liked Ryan and will take her shirt off 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:12.920 in the gym and say, you know, oh my gods, 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:14.200 what do I have to do for this guy to 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:18.880 look at me? That's what Jen alleged. But then Jen 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:24.240 went further. She said that one time Tamar was at 0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:29.040 his house and said, I'm at the hot gym guy's house. 0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:34.160 Should I go upstairs and take one for the team? Baby? 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:43.920 My mom's dropped. I'm like, excuse me, Like what are 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:59.440 we doing? What are we doing? Those are very strong allegations. 0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:05.720 Do y'all believe that? I don't know if I believe it, 0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:13.840 But I gagged, bitch, I gagged. I gagged. I gagged. 0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:19.320 One of the things is it's it is one of 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:24.200 those things where it's such a specific, detailed story that 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:28.200 you're like, Okay, will Jim make up something so you 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:36.800 know specific right? Or is Jin adding some hot sauce 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:40.280 to the story to make it more juicy and gag worthy? 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.920 For Reality with the King and the rain drops, right, 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:53.400 these are things that gag me and baby I was gagged. 0:29:56.000 --> 0:30:01.840 I was gagged, let me know. I mean, I can't 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.320 wait for Tamra to respond to that, if she hasn't already. 0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:15.200 But baby I I gagged. That was the gag, honey 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.840 of the motherfucking episode to me, bitch, I mean, hm 0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:25.240 m M. I don't know. I don't know what to say. 0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:29.200 That was a gag. But listen is one of those 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:41.480 things where we will get down to the bottom of it. Okay, okay, Now, 0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:45.840 what was also very interesting in that scene is the 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:51.400 fact that, you know, Tamra last season did say something 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:55.560 along the lines of what you know Ryan allegedly was 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.600 doing when it came to the FBI, the fans and 0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:03.880 all that shit, and Ryan threatened to sue her, and 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.960 Tamar's like, look, I ain't trying to be soothed. She 0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:13.760 apologized for it, So look, tam my dumb apologize for 0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:28.880 that shit. That's baby I Uh, I'm still gagged. Okay, 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:36.280 So moving on, Emily and Gina meet with Katie and 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.840 pretty much confront Katie on the whole ex nanny story. 0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:46.640 This is another example of just how Katie god I 0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.160 can't spend too much time on Katie girl. I just 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.840 I felt like Katie was caught in another lie and 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:59.640 then she's like, well, I apologized I didn't know, and 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.160 it's like, Katie, you this is how I feel. Katie 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:08.960 knew what she was doing. Katie knew in order for 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:12.400 her to get back at sorry, my phone was ringing 0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.880 a child. Katie knew in order for her to get 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:19.160 back at Emily, she had to orchestrate it. That's what 0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:24.120 I felt, allegedly, And when Katie told Emily like, look, 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.560 it's my first reunion, I'm new to this, and it's like, 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.600 while I understand you're new to this drama reality television, 0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.400 that's not how you go about it. And if that 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.719 is how you go about it, why do that? And 0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.080 on top of that, are you now admitting to setting 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:48.680 her up? I felt like that seeing Katie pretty much 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.520 fessed up to the fact that your intention was to 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:57.760 expose Emily? Am I the only one who thought that way? 0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.920 And that's why I fuxed with Emily, Who's like, no, bit, 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:05.640 you're not gonna hug me. I'm cool on you. This 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:09.480 is what it is, Katie. In my opinion one hundred 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:19.040