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Time now for 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: our weekly partnership segment with the Daily Poster. They are 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: always all over covering the corruption and following the money 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: here in DC. Joining us with his very latest reporting 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: is Andrew Perez with the daily poster. Andrew, great to 22 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: see you. Good to see Andrew. Thanks for having me, 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: of course. So you've got a bit of an update 24 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: on the cash flowing to one Senator Kirsten Cinema to 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: oppose things that are you know, supported by like eighty 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: and ninety percent of the public. Let's throw this tear 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: sheet up on the screen. Very latest pharma front group 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: has spent one point two million dollars backing Cinema. The 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: subhead here says a front group funded by big Pharma 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: is running even more odds praising kreson Cinema, who just 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: gutted DEM's drug pricing plan. What did you find, Andrew? Sure? So, yeah, 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of months ago we reported that 33 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: this group called Center Forward had spent you know, actually 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: a few hundred thousand dollars up to six hundred thousand 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: dollars supporting Cinema while she was kind of making moves 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: behind the scenes to oppose Democrats plan to allow Medicare 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: to negotiate drug prices. And you know, the latest is 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: they've just just before Democrats announced that had reached a 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: kind of compromise with Cinema. Center Forward put another like 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: another few hundred thousand dollars on the air, launching a 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: new ad campaign supporting her. And you know, the ad 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: is something really it's like kind of like purest corporate 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: propaganda you're ever going to see it. You might think 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: that they're selling a car commercial, like there's like you know, 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: like some sports car going through the desert, someone someone 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: racing on a horse through the desert. It's it's really 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: the most vapid kind of propaganda you're ever going to see. 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: And it's you know, being done at the time when 49 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: she has been boosting their donors. You know, Center Forward 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: has been funded significantly by Pharma, the lobbying group in DC. 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: They've they've given them at least four and a half 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: million dollars in recent years, which accounted for about about 53 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: a quarter of its revenue. So you know, this is 54 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: a this is a farm of front group that's masquerading 55 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: as a kind of center centrist organization. But it's it's 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: really kind of flown under the radar. But if you know, 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: if you look it up, there's actually a lot of 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: people on Twitter in Arizona complaining about the ads. Interesting, 59 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, Andrew, I mean this is just the latest 60 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: in kind of what we've seen. What else have you 61 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: guys uncovered in the money behind cinema? Sure? You know so, 62 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: we recently did a story about the Medicare Better Medicare Alliance, 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: which had been pushing Democrats to you know, not to 64 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: include dental and vision benefits under medicare as they'd kind 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: of campaigned on, and they had spent the last time 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: we looked like a few like about five hundred thousand 67 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: dollars boosting cinema. And you know, the other thing we've 68 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: reported on how she's seen a big influx in pharma 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: donations over the last over the course of this year, 70 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I think she's up to about six hundred thousand dollars 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: in just donations from pharma for her career now, including 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: about a hundred thousand dollars earlier this year. My personal 73 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: favorite industry that Kreson Cinema is getting lots of cash 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: from is the quote unquote multi level marketing industry, which 75 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: basically legalized pyramid scheme. She's a loan holdout on the 76 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: Pro Union pro Act, which is a main priority for 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: that I would say fraudulent industry to try to get killed. 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: So there's you know, corruption, stories of caresin cinema abound. 79 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: Of course, I think we are really bearing the lead, 80 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: which is her eccentric dress. I think is what voters 81 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: should really care about and really focus on. You know, 82 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: what's your response to the fact that you really haven't 83 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: run a single sartorial piece about Kirsten Cinema yet in 84 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: the daily Poster. You know, we're looking for the right 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: correspondent to handle that kind of company. I don't think 86 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be me, but we're we're going to 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: find someone. Okay, good, glad to hear that. Lastie, Andrew, 88 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: you also had a recent piece. So the latest with 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: the Build Back Better thing is that the Progressives for 90 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: some reason were persuaded to go along with voting for 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: the infrastructure deal, giving up all their leverage with this 92 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: promise from the corporate wing of the party that we 93 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: swear we're going to vote for this thing. We just 94 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: need to get the Congressional Budget Office to tell us 95 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: how much it costs, and then we promised by November fifteenth, 96 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: we're going to be ready to sign on to it. 97 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: What is the latest going on there? Yeah, So you know, 98 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: just yesterday the Congressional Budget Office said that they're not 99 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: going to kind of include the revenue in their kind 100 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: of analysis here. They're not going to include revenue from 101 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: that's generated by boosting IRIS tax enforcement of really wealthy 102 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: people who are known to be cheating the system. You know, 103 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: the CBO has actually estimated over like in recent months, 104 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: they've looked at the same plan, at this plan that 105 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: Democrats have to boost IRAS enforcement by eighty billion, and 106 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 1: they've said that it's going to raise about two hundred billion, 107 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, net one hundred and twenty billion. And yeah, 108 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: they're not going to include this though in their score. 109 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: And it's you know, it's important because some you know, 110 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: kind of conservative Democrats have been holding out here saying 111 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: they want to see the CBO score. They want to 112 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: see that it that the bill is going to be, 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, kind of deficit neutral. But so CBO is 114 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: not going to factor this into their score. It's it's 115 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: one of the you know, larger revenue raisers in the 116 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: in the bill. I think the Biden administration has been 117 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: claiming that it would bring in four hundred billion, you know, 118 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: CBO zone estimates say that it'll bring in two hundred billion. 119 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, they're not going to factor this in other 120 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: than maybe as like some kind of footnote. And it's 121 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of remarkable too, because Josh Gotttheimer's 122 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: from New Jersey is one of these Democrats who's demanding 123 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: a CBO scorer before they move forward on this bill, 124 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: and he actually has endorsed using this, like this same 125 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: idea to capture revenue. Just recently, he wanted it to 126 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: fund you know, the so called salt tax, their assault 127 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: cap repeal on state and local tax deductions that would 128 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: primarily benefit wealthy homeowners. Yeah, he's anyway, he endorsed this 129 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 1: revenue method and now it's going to get excluded here 130 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: and it's going to pose a potential problem though you know, 131 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: obviously all this conversation is sort of or not if 132 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: if Joe Manchin just decides, as we kind of read 133 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: last night, that he wants to stall this bill further. Well, 134 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: and because as you already indicated, the whole thing's been 135 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: stripped down so much from what it originally was because 136 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: of people like Kirson Cinema and the money that has 137 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: been funneled to them through various industry groups. Andrew, thank 138 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: you for the reporting and thank you for your time. 139 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thanks Andrew, thank you. Of course, 140 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: you guys, enjoy your day. We're going to have more 141 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: content for you later. Time for one of our favorite 142 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: segments that we do here on Breaking Points. How unpopular 143 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: is Kamala Harris? And the results are even more stunning 144 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: than even we could have imagined and put this up 145 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: there on the screen. New prop poll from Suffolk University 146 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: and USA today. The only person less popular in this 147 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: country than Joe Biden is Kamala Harris. Biden's job a 148 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: rating at thirty eight percent fifty nine, which is a disaster. 149 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: That's like Trump level territory in terms of where he 150 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,119 Speaker 1: is sitting, and Kamala Harris somehow manages to get even 151 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: lower than that at a twenty eight percent approval rating. 152 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 1: So granted, she doesn't have as high of a disapproval rating, 153 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: so I guess most of the people in the category 154 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: just didn't know who she was. But in terms of 155 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: the people who affirmatively like her, yeah, twenty eight percent 156 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: of the American public. And maybe it has to do 157 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: with really weird stuff that she does, like this where 158 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: she was recently asking about the races of trees. And 159 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: this is not a joke. This is not like some 160 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: cherry pitclip. This is real from a briefing of her 161 00:08:53,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: with NASA. Let's take a listen. Climate adaptation strategies is 162 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: part of that data that you're referring to J's environmental dost. 163 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: But you can also track by race their averages and 164 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: turns to the number of trees in the neighborhood where 165 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: people live. So we're talking about trees environmental No. Look, 166 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: I know there is some convoluted explanation about environmental justice 167 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: and all of that, but I think that pretty much 168 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: just encapsulates really what Harris is all about. Crystal. You 169 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: also pointed out that she's got a new political initiative 170 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: to bolster her popularity with the billionaire class, and so 171 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: she really is just the worst politician that I've probably 172 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. Hillary Clinton. Hillary might have 173 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: even given her a run for her money. Well, she's 174 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: just empty. Yeah, I mean, that's really the bottom line. 175 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: She's just empty. She's just an ambitious person who you know, 176 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: throughout a presidential campaign, this became incredibly clear. She kept 177 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: changing her slogan every couple of months. They're having like 178 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: a conference call to try to figure out what her 179 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: core values are. You know, you're not going to come 180 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: to your core values and your priorities by you know, 181 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: having a group of democratic consultants tell you what you 182 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: should be ultimately about. And so I think that that 183 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: really comes across is that there is no sort of 184 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: core there. There's no willingness or you know, willingness or 185 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: track record of fighting things that are actually important for 186 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: the American people. The latest sign of just sort of 187 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: bending the political wins that you were alluding to. She's 188 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: set to give a speech. We can throw this tear 189 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: sheet up on the screen where she's going to say 190 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: that singling out Israel is anti Semitism in an ADL speech. 191 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: So again sort of bending to the political wins there. 192 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: And you know what I always come back to with 193 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: Kamala is that this was all so obvious, Like all 194 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: of the people in this town seem so shocked that 195 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: she's unpopular, that she's not doing particularly well in the 196 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: position of vice president. First of all, they gave her 197 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: some of the hardest assignments, like go fix the good 198 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: luck with that, you know, but it was always incredibly 199 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: clear that the public had that she was an entirely 200 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: media creation. Public had no interest in electing Kamala Harris 201 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: to a national office. She had to drop out before 202 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: her state even voted because or any state even voted, 203 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: because it was looking so embarrassing. Even on just the 204 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: sort of financial management of the campaign, which I actually 205 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: always think is an interesting indicator of how effective people 206 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: are going to be in terms of that like management, 207 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: managerial type of expertise. She was a disaster. There, Funds 208 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: were misspent, her campaign team was like at war with 209 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: one another. There were different silos and factions and all 210 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: kinds of infighting, and there just wasn't any enthusiasm for 211 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: her candidacy because ultimately, what is there to be enthusiastic about. 212 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: What does she actually stand for and willing to fight for? 213 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: We still don't know. Well, you know, I think that 214 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: everything we're seeing in terms of the Buddhajes camp already 215 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: thinking about how terrible she is, the White House itself 216 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: trying to keep her on as strict a lockdown as possible, 217 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: there is a deep acknowledgement at the very least, they're like, hey, 218 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: we messed up big time here in terms of what 219 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: to do, though they don't know because she's also the 220 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: appointed successor, and you can't abandon your vice president if 221 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: you decide not to run, which is possible, and you know, 222 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: I would say, what like a forty to fifty percent 223 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: shot at this point in twenty twenty four, I think, 224 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, ultimately, if Biden can still walk, he'll probably 225 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: still run, just because you know, there's nobody else that 226 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: they have that can win. But it really is I 227 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: when we see these numbers, it is just stunning to 228 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: see what the next generation they have picked or have 229 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: waiting for them whenever it's their time to stand on 230 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: their own. Yeah. Their solution to this Kamala mess is Pete, 231 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: who is like only in terms of public support, probably 232 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: only no. No, I say he's largely about just because 233 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: he actually did place in the Democratic primary, whereas Comma 234 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: didn't even make it to the starting line. So I guess, baby, 235 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: But it's pretty grim scenario when you're like, you know, 236 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: your hero who's going to come riding in and hopefully 237 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: secure win for you was Pete Bootages, all right, who 238 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: was so irrelevant that no one even noticed that he 239 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: was not working during the subtly crisis. Secretary transportation, so 240 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: pretty grim. It was funny. There was a Democratic prime 241 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean, these things are always sort of ridiculous, this 242 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: far out but democratic primary poll that came out recently 243 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: that had okay, if Biden's not running, hoo do you want? 244 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Kamala's support in that poll had dropped like twenty points 245 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: in just a couple of months, but she was still leading. 246 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: She was sitting vice president. Second, I believe was Bernie Sanders, 247 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: who's like three hundred years old, yeah, and has no 248 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: interest in running. He's literally like ninety yeah, I mean 249 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: not actually, but he's near yeah. I mean, you know, 250 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: I have a lot of great affection for Bernie Sanders. 251 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: If he runs again, I'll be in the air for 252 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: him because it's way better. It's over, way betterbeat. So 253 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of where they are, all right. So, guys, 254 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: we've been tracking the massive labor disruptions across the country, 255 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: which are largely good. You have workers who are going 256 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: on strike and authorizing strikes. You have workers who are 257 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: quitting on mass. And we've also seen a few of 258 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: these incidents popping up where a group of workers at 259 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: a restaurant or a dollar General or whatever, they just 260 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: decide like, we're done here, we're leaving, we're locking up 261 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: this door, we're out. So the latest one of these 262 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: happen at McDonald's. Let's put this tear sheet up on 263 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: the screen. This is pretty interesting a tweet on the screen. 264 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: This is from Jeff Stein. He mentions an amazing moment 265 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: in a story where McDonald's workers realize that their boss 266 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: needs them more than they need their boss. Products of 267 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: tight labor market among the kind we haven't seen in years. 268 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: And he has a little screenshot of the article where 269 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: Matt texts his colleagues that the regional supervisor had called him, 270 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: was trying to entice him to stay, but that he 271 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: was not going to betray his friends. Matt says, she's desperate. 272 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: Now they agree, Yeah, she's really is desperate, and so effectively, 273 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: what happened here is this group of workers Adam McDonald's. 274 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: They were making what was a nine to five an 275 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: hour hour, and the owner of this McDonald's owned a 276 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: number of other ones, and the workers at the other 277 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: restaurants were making fifteen dollars an hour. So these McDonald's 278 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: workers were pissed off. They thought they deserved at least 279 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: ten dollars an hour. Okay, ten dollars an hour. It's 280 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: not a lot that they're asking for. They're not even 281 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: asking to be raised to the wage that the other 282 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: McDonald's workers in the same little chain of franchise owners 283 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: were making. So they sent in a petition to the 284 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: regional supervisor. They say, Dustin Snyder was tired of the 285 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: low wages, the sixty hour workweeks, and the impossible to 286 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: police customers. So in early September, the assistant general manager, 287 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: Adam McDonald's, drafted a petition that laid bare months of 288 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: building anger and frustration. We are all leaving the petition threatened, 289 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: and hope you find employees that want to work for 290 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: nine to twenty five and hour. All nearly all of 291 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: the two dozen employees had signed it. A few added 292 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: their own flourishes, like we need a raise or piss off, 293 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: wrote another one. They responded and said, basically, well, we're 294 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: not going to be respond to these sorts of threats. 295 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: We're not going to lift your wages. And so all 296 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: of these workers got together and basically walked down. There's 297 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: a good end to the story, which is that all 298 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: of them have been able to find jobs at higher wages. 299 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: Lumber mails elsewhere making more and this is not a 300 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: particularly economically prosperous area, but even in this area, they 301 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: were able. In Bradford, Pennsylvania, they were able to find 302 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: jobs that were making more than the nine to twenty 303 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: five an hour. And this part is really galling though. 304 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: After they all leave and had, you know, really tried 305 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: to do whatever they could to get their wages lifted 306 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: to ten dollars an hour, they drove by about six 307 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: weeks after the walk end, they drove by the McDonald's 308 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: and there's a sign on the window hiring pay starts 309 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: at ten dollars. Now, that was all they were asking for. 310 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: A seventy five cent rate. That was it. That was 311 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: all that they were asking for. And I want to 312 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: basically spite the owner and the regional supervisor here wouldn't 313 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: give it to them. And now that they're gone, they're realizing, 314 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: we just can't get workers at that price. They're lifting 315 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: the wage anyway, when they could have just given these 316 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: workers a raise to start with and kept their crew together. Yeah, 317 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: and you know, it's just amazing because they kept losing 318 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: staff to Walmart. So when you're paying less than Walmart. 319 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: Something's going on, right, So they would point to entry 320 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: level jobs in the area at thirteen seventy five an hour, 321 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: or even tim Horton's which is paying twelve dollars an hour, 322 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: and that McDonald's just refused to increase its price and 323 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: finally just to jacket up to ten. What it took 324 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: was all of them walking out. And you know, a 325 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: point to something we covered earlier in the show, which 326 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: is that these Kaiser workers, Kaiser Permanente Healthcare nurses, they're 327 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: asking for a four percent raise. This is they're not 328 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: gold diggers, Okay, Like, this is not a lot of money. 329 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: This is a pretty reasonable from what I understand. People 330 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: are eating more fast food than ever so last time 331 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: I checked, you know, they're making them pretty good amount 332 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: of money. And it just shows you that the fact 333 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: that they were even able to get all the jobs 334 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: immediately after they quit shows that the power of the 335 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: labor market right now. But I also was kind of 336 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: sad when you read it because the guy dustn't he 337 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: didn't want to quit. He liked his job, he liked 338 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: his fellow he was an assessmin general manager. He was like, 339 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: I like being leader, I like my co workers like, 340 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: we all have fun together. I just want to be 341 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: paid like a human wage, which is normal in my town. 342 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: And they were like, no, we're just not going to 343 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: do it. And so him, being the leader that he was, 344 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: he said, fine, let's go. Let's walk out. Yeah, and 345 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: that's ultimately what happened. He said, let's walk out, and 346 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: he also pledged to his fellow workers that he would 347 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: help them find jobs making more than what they were 348 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: making McDonald's, and ultimately they were all able to do that. 349 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a few things that are interesting here. 350 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean again McDonald's ultimately pennywise and pound foolish here 351 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: because they they're ending up having to pay people the 352 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: ten dollars an hour anyway for a much less experienced 353 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: crew of workers who have to learn the ropes and 354 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: start from scratch and don't have this group cohesion that 355 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: this previous group of workers clearly clearly did. So that's 356 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: one piece. The other piece is imagine if these workers 357 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: had been in a union, then they wouldn't have had 358 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: to leave and go elsewhere when actually at least one 359 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: and probably several of them actually enjoyed working together and 360 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: wanted to stay at McDonald's. They just wanted to have 361 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: conditions that were respectful of them and that they were 362 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: able to survive on. So if they had a union, 363 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: they would have been able to have a strike, put pressure, 364 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: have a contract negotiation, they would have had power in 365 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: the situation other than just having to leave. So you 366 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: can see the difference in how this plays out for 367 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: these workers who just have to ultimately leave and go elsewhere, 368 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: and fortunately the labor market is such that they were 369 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: able to make that work in this time versus the 370 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: workers at John Deere and other places who actually have 371 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: some leverage and some bargaining power collectively to get that 372 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: better wage, those better set of benefits, to get rid 373 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: of the two tear structure, whatever it is that their 374 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: agreements is actually are. They can stay in the job 375 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: that they may actually like, that they've been at for 376 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: a long time, and be able to fight and bargain 377 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: for those higher wages. So I think it's interesting from 378 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: that perspective as well. Yeah, I mean, overall, we're just 379 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: seeing the revolution all across the American economy. Media is 380 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: really not covering it, but these are the real stories 381 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: that are affecting real people's lives. So any way you 382 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: like to see it, you do, you like to see it? 383 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: Very interesting to see what. We wish these workers all 384 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: the best, absolutely, and we wish you guys of us too, 385 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: enjoy your weekend. We'll see you guys soon. So you 386 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: guys know, we've been tracking from early days that coal 387 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: miner strike going down on down in Alabama with the 388 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: Warrior met miners. They've recently had some big actions up 389 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: in New York City, protesting outside a black Rock HQ. 390 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: We wanted to get an update on what is going 391 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: on with those strikers, and so joining us now is 392 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: Kim Kelly Pasic labor reporter. She is a contributor to 393 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: the Real News. She writes a labor column for teen Vogue. 394 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: She's also working on a book called Fight Like Hell, 395 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: The Untold History of American Labor, and has been all 396 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: over this strike from the very beginning. Great to see Kim. 397 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: See Kim, thanks for having me back to talk about 398 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: her boys. Yeah, of course. So we have a little 399 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: bit of imagery from that action that I referenced before 400 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: the protest outside of Blackrock HQ. Let's hear this first 401 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: tweet of years up on the screen where you can 402 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: see some video that the afl CIO put out of 403 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: some of the protesting workers at the actions that they've 404 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: been taking. You say, they really are living up to 405 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: their motto we are everywhere. We also have a video 406 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: of Mineworkers President Cecil Roberts speaking outside of Blackrock. HQ. 407 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to that. Now, they're all ringing 408 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: up themselves, just like the civil rights no vote, just 409 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: like God, just like Moses, Jesus. This is old. It's 410 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: a Bible itself. It's it's old. It's a teaching of 411 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: the Lord that we must stand and take back what 412 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: is rightfully ours, brothers and sisters. And I want you 413 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: to know something there, ain't nobody gonna turn us around. 414 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: They know Lock Rock gonna turn us around. Ain't no 415 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: warrior met gonna turn us around. He ain't no change 416 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: gonna turn us around. Ain't no objection gonna turn us around. 417 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: They no jail house gonna turn us around. United, we 418 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: stand divided, we fall around. The world is around now. 419 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: And as doctor Key says, someday we'll all be able 420 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: to say free, last, Free, last, one of the great 421 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: orders in the labor movement. Right there, Kim, just give 422 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: us an update on what's been going on. So kind 423 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: of this has been in the works for a little while, 424 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: but some of that kind of added some fuel to 425 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: the fire, if you will, is that last week in Alabama, 426 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: are judge laid out temporary restraining order against the union 427 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: and members at the hease of Warrior Met which forbid 428 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: them from picketing or even you know, just appearing within 429 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: three hundred yards of Warrior Mets mines or offices, so 430 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: effectively killed off the picket line. So people are fired up, 431 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: and they had this action to look forward to. Already, 432 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: we're in hundreds of miners from the variety of states 433 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 1: Union officials around the country. They bust and drove, and 434 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they could show up in New York 435 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: City and rallied with a bunch of local labor folk 436 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: amount to support and they let them march down Park Avenue, 437 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: Park Avenue and Madison Avenue, one of those you know, 438 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: big fancy ones living make the streets to Blackrock headquarters. Now, 439 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: they've been to Blackrock before, and the reason they keep 440 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: targeting them specifically is because Blackrock owns about a fourteen 441 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: percent share in Warrior Met, so they're Warrior Mets Pouses 442 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: and they're allowing Warrior Met to continue to do all 443 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: of these shady maneuvers to try and bring the strike. 444 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: So the miners decided to show up and let them 445 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: know what they thought about that. Yeah, I mean, I 446 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: think it's important, Came that we give people some more 447 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: background here, both in terms of Black Rock and Warrior Met. 448 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: What is the core thing that these miners are fighting for. 449 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: So they eleven hundred coal miners in Tuscoota County, Alabama, 450 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: have been on strike for over unfair fair labor practices 451 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: since April first. Now we're in their eighth month on strike, 452 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: and it has been rueling. They are trying essentially to 453 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: get back what was taken from them that due to 454 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: the contract that they signed five years ago when Warrio 455 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: Matt bought the Minds and came in, it slashed a 456 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: lot of the things that they needed and had fought 457 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: for the previous contracts, like six dollars an hour, taking 458 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: off their pay, mess with their benefits, and mess with 459 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: their overtime, their time off. It really is just a 460 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: terrible contract, and so they've been trying to negotiate a 461 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: new one and a better one because now the company 462 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: is in robust financial shape and they can afford to 463 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: treat their workers properly. Apparently Warrior Matt has not seen 464 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: it that way. Contract negotiations broke down and they've been 465 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: out of strike ever since. And have there been any 466 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: movement in terms of the company being willing to come 467 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: back to the table whatsoever? And how are they moving forward? 468 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: And we've covered here John Deere. They're using this insane, 469 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: insane idea of pulling the white collar workers in to 470 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: do what the blue collar workers were doing. That doesn't 471 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: seem to be going all that well for John Deere. 472 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: But what sort of strategies has Warrior Matt employed. They've 473 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: been they I mean they've been using managers and putting 474 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: them down on the long wall, which for the miners 475 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: described as a pretty bad idea. If you can imagine 476 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: taking something works in an office and saying the two 477 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: thousand feet underground into an underground coal mine is a 478 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: little dicey, to say the least. And they've also brought 479 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: in an army of scats replacement workers. They've had billboards 480 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: up as far away as West Virginia and Kentucky trying 481 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: to entice workers to come down and help break this strake. 482 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: And they've really i mean, their production has fallen. They've 483 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: lost about seven million dollars already on this strike. They're 484 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: really shooting themselves in the foot. But they still refuse 485 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: to come to the bargaining table and offer anything meaningful. 486 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: And you know, they're trying to start these people out. 487 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 1: And over the past couple of months they've ramped up 488 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: efforts to actively break this strike by working with the 489 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: sympathetic courts to get these injunctions and temporary restraining orders 490 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: laid out. And they really are they're not playing fair 491 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: to say the least, and the miners are fed up 492 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I mean, what is the endgame here, Kim? 493 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: How long do you think that Warrior met Cole could 494 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: try and hold out here? It's hard to say. I 495 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: know that the union isn't ready to give up. I 496 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: mean they've been out there eight months. They're already making 497 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: plans for Christmas, they're making plans for after that. They're 498 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: dug in. The company wants to break the strike, and 499 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: the company wants to break the union. Their ultimate goal 500 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: is to decertify the union and not have to deal 501 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: with them anymore. And We've seen this repeat over and 502 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: over throughout the history of coal miners in this country. 503 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: The company tries to break them. Sometimes it works, sometimes 504 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't. You know, this still isn't the longest coal 505 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: miner strike we've seen in this country. I think Massive 506 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: Cole has that honor. But it's a long one and 507 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: really these miners need as much support as they can 508 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: get at this point. It's been a long haul and 509 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: it's turned violent on the company's part, but really they're 510 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: fighting their lives out there. Can you talk a little 511 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: bit more about that, Kim. How can people support these 512 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: miners if they're moved to and also what is the 513 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: spirit like of the families who are involved here? I mean, 514 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: the best way to support them, besides donating directly to 515 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: their strike fund is to send their perial support to 516 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: the Women's Auxilary that they've been doing incredible work. They've 517 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: been putting together grocery bags and personal hygiene bags and 518 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: baby bags for over two hundred families every week, relying 519 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: on from local community and from folks like you. They've 520 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: been keeping these families fed and they just actually send 521 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: out their first round of boxes for their Christmas toy drive, 522 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: so these Union kids are going to have a happy Christmas, 523 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: even if their parents are so worried about what's going on. 524 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: I know folks down there are tired, they want to 525 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: go back to work, they want to be done with this, 526 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: but they're not going to give up until they get 527 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: what they need. You know, they've put in way too much. 528 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: They've put in. Some of these folks that put in 529 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: decades underground, sacrifice their youth so they can feed their 530 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: family and you know, have a decent job in a 531 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: place that doesn't have a lot of those on offer. 532 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: They're not going to give up, and they need much 533 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: solidarity and support as possible. One thing that's going to 534 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: be fun for people watching from home with that the 535 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: miners Art. The MBA is going to be expanding its 536 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: efforts and it's going to be paying more visits to 537 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: more places that are enabling this to happen. So there's 538 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: going to be more actions out there, and I would 539 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: encourage folks to follow along with thew's website and our 540 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: social media pages for those announcements because I think December 541 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: is going to be pretty wild awesome. Well, we'll have 542 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: a link to stripe cund and more in the description. Kim. 543 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: Really appreciate you joining us and giving us the update. 544 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, thank you, Kim, and thanks for staying 545 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: on top of this. Guys. Follow Kim at Grim Kim 546 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter for updates on everything that's going on, and 547 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: we'll continue to keep you updated as well. Great to 548 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: see you, Kim. Thank you. Okay, a little bit of 549 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: real life Hunger Games happening here in the US. Let's 550 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: put this up there on the screen. Ivy Geddy. She 551 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: is the great granddaughter of John Paul Getty, the r 552 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: s to the oil fortune that he has amassed. Married 553 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: photographer to Bias Alexander Engel in a ceremony officiated by 554 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi at City Hall in 555 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: San Francisco. The Gettys, of course have the famous Getty Museum. 556 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: They're California Royalty. Billions and billions of dollars And I 557 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: really kid you not, this thing looks like it was 558 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: straight out of District one in the Hunger Games. Put 559 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: this tear sheet on the screen. We've compiled a few 560 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: of the photos around the scene that you could see there. 561 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't even look at that first one, 562 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: in particular of city hall that they rented out covered 563 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: in custom carpet. They bought this car, they apparently, and 564 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: this you guys really need to go and read this 565 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: entire piece in Vogue because they describe it all very 566 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: matter of factly, and they point to, you know, guests 567 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: having these custom picnics and buying personally monogrammed pajamas for 568 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: every one of the bridesmaids, and there was like a 569 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: dozen bridesmaids or something like that. I mean, just like 570 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: gratuitous amounts of wealth spent on all of this, the dancing, 571 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: and you know some of the photos that came out. 572 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: I really do question the self awareness of a person 573 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: worth literally billions of dollars having such an ostentatious wedding 574 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: like this. But the political side of it, you just 575 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: can't even make this up, Crystal, I mean, San Francisco 576 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: Mayer was there. Nancy Pelosi literally officiated the wedding ceremony 577 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: for this billionaire heiress in the middle of all that's 578 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: happening right now, in the middle of Washington. Amazing. I 579 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: would submit that if you care about Democrats winning, stuff 580 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: like this is way more of a problem for you 581 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: than CRT will ever be. Oh yeah, I mean, this 582 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: is this is the issue. Was like, you're supposed to 583 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: be the party of the people. You're supposed to be 584 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: like the champion and the little guy. And it's not 585 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: just Pelosi. We know that Congress overall a bunch of millionaires, 586 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: wildly out of touch. We saw you know this hearkens 587 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: back to Gavin Newsom and the French laundry restaurant really 588 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: like the most expensive restaurant in California or whatever. Yeah, 589 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: And I mean, listen, you can be friends with whoever 590 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: you want. And I'm not trying to, like, you know, 591 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: criminalize people having some amount of money, although I think 592 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: it should be taxed a much higher rates. But you 593 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: have to realize that our ruling class, like they are 594 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: in a totally different segment of society. Nancy plosing these 595 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: other people who are trying to make policy to lift 596 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: up the lower class, Like when is the last time 597 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: she officiated a wedding of like a working class person 598 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, or had anything. Though those people can't get married, 599 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: Crystal because they don't have enough money any real contact 600 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: with people outside of that social set, like these are 601 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: their people. And I do think that that's important to 602 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: realize we talked about this study that Jacoman just did 603 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: about how to appeal to working class people, and one 604 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: of the parts we didn't get into is actually, so 605 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: not just the mess but who is the messenger really 606 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: really matters, And so voters overall, they actually slightly preferred 607 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: female candidates. They actually slightly prefer for black candidates. So 608 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, your race and your ethnicity, it didn't really 609 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: make that much of a difference what your gender or 610 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: your race was, But what they really preferred was working 611 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: class candidates. And of course, because of the fundraising circuit, 612 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: the fact that you have to be able to have 613 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: a whole network of rich people to write you campaign 614 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: checks to ultimately get into Congress, that's who both parties 615 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: look to is the upper class to elevate as candidates 616 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: and put into office. So you have you've had rising diversity. 617 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: It's not enough. We could do a lot more, but 618 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: in terms of you know, race and gender and those 619 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: sorts of things, we have rising diversity. The number of 620 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: working class members of Congress totally flat and almost non existent. 621 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: And those are the people that you know, regular working 622 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: class people actually would like to see and actually would 623 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: like to vote for. So this is just a little 624 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: tiny Taste Microcrat, and my favorite, uh my favorite tweet 625 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: on the subject was that everyone in those photos they're 626 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: getting a tax cut because of the salt tax deduction. 627 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: So that's who she really works for. Whenever she comes 628 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: to Washington. She secured them their bag so that they 629 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: could pay for a little bit more of The Hunger 630 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: Game's wedding. You love to see it. It's kind of funny. 631 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: All right, We'll see you guys later