1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: It's that time. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: Time, time, time, luck and load. 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: The Michael Very Show is on the air. Shall we 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: take some carousing on one thousand h K. You have 5 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: been patiently waiting and I appreciate that and I'm honored 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: to have you on the program. 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: Sir, go ahead, Michael good morning. 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: Yes sir, Yes, sir. 9 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: HK. 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: We lost you, Bud hold. 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: On, Okay, I can hear you now. I couldn't hear 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: you before. 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Okay, good, I can hear you now, and soon the 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: whole world will hear you. Okay, great, I still have 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: to push. 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: At the sight of the NL, I met Paul Burley 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: and was under appeal. Then when I went to Bumma 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: Lamar Tech. Of course, most I was near J. P. Richson, 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: Big Bopper. And after I left Lamar Tech, I went 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: to Corpus Christie Teaching School and I was in Civil 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: Air Patrol. Well there's a kid flying with us, and 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: he was really a nice guy, super nice guy, and 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: he washed out of the Naval Cadesta down there and 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: went up to Alloway and began flying. Of course, the 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Big Bopper got together and had the group going and 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: they went up there and as well know, got in 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: that airplane and Roger Peterson was super nice guy, but 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: he wasn't very good at instrumentation. And when he took 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: that airplane off, the idea was he got totally disordered 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: like Kennedy and spun that plane in, which was a 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: real tragedy for. 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: All of us. 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: And the music stopped at that time. 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe the music stopped. In fact, I think 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: that spurred the music. But but I understand the the 36 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: phrasing was, was petersoner good? Do you remember the plane? 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: Do you remember the style of plane that he was flying? 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: I bet you don't. It was a Beachcraft Bonanza. Does 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: that ring about you? 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: That was a good plane? 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Now do you fly? 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: Not? 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: Did you? I had three Air Force but it's World 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: War two conduct pilots that I played with all the time. 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: But I did not finish my uh my flying training. HK. 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: I don't play golf. I don't really hunt. I mean 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't mind doing of the one, but they take 48 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot of time. Uh I don't. My hobby is 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: to listen to stories from people who are very interesting. 50 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: And I can tell you are a fella that has 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: a lot of stories. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: if some random thing were to pop up, if you 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: and I were in a conversation and you would say, well, 54 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, one time Johnny Bench asked me to warm 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: him up before he came in in the nineteen of 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: the game to catch you know, I could just see 57 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: I bet you, I bet you regale the people around 58 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: you with with incredible stories. 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: Well that's what happens when you're when you're on this 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: earth long enough, I guess, Michael, I don't think that's 61 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: your experience. Look, I pre sure. 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: I think you're a guy that's had interesting, interesting experiences. 63 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: And some people have interesting experiences just because it's almost 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: like God God's hand is upon them and put them 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: in interesting places that they never expected that. You know, 66 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: those people they ran into, you know, the person who 67 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: runs the comedy club where Lenny Bruce comes in and 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: you know has story after story about that, or or 69 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: the roadie for Whalen Jennings. It's just interesting how that 70 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: plays out. Where do you live now, HK? 71 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: What will it at college station? You know, my wife 72 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: was with the A and M Library here for a while, 73 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: and so we decided she's from Brian, Okay. So we 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: were to enjoy here to a neat little town. 75 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: And where do you are you and Brian? Or College Station? 76 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: College Station? 77 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: Okay, whereabouts? Don't give me the address, but just whereabouts. 78 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: Well, we live right off the university, which is you 79 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: know the boundary of the universities. Yeah, and then Rudder Freeway. 80 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or a Rudder American hero. Uh? And when 81 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: did you move to College Station? 82 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: We moved here in about ninety five. My wife was 83 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: hired to be a reference library and at starting Sievings Library. Okay, 84 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: of course we knew, we knew. Mister Evins also give 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: me a really nice guy. But well, I was at Ellington. 86 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: I think I told you I worked at Shamrock Hotel 87 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: parking cars. 88 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: So there it is there, you and you and Giant. 89 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: I could see that. 90 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 91 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: Glenn McCarthy, well, glennar Lee, I didn't know. You know, 92 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: he never came in there very much, you know, at 93 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: the at the Big Club. But glennar Lee and her 94 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: mother came in quite quite often. You know. She was 95 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: a Lee. Glenn's wife was a Lee from you know 96 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 2: mont Lee All Company. 97 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: I didn't not know that, jid. You know the audacity 98 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: of Glenn McCarthy to build that hotel outside of downtown. Now, 99 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: that was a big deal at the time, way out 100 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: in the woods. Now today we wouldn't think of it 101 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: that way if it was so there. But to put 102 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: a to put a pool in the back, and put 103 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: on skiing expeditions, to book Sinatra and every big act 104 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: at the time, to do what he did. Uh, the 105 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: level of bravado of a man like that, you don't 106 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: see those types walk past very often. That's that's a 107 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: and it's very Texan, and it's very Houston. And uh, 108 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by those types of characters because they're gamblers, 109 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: they're con men, they're hustlers, they're promoters, their geniuses, they're rough, 110 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: they're charming, they're awful. I mean they are. They are 111 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: very complicated. You cannot simply dismiss them out of hand. 112 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Where were you born? 113 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: HK, how's along with you? 114 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: Okay, I've got people. 115 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: And the freshion came on and everything became quite chaotic, 116 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: you know. For several years after that, we lived in 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: logging camps after we had to leave Longview, and and uh, 118 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: we lived in a logging clip with no electricity and 119 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: no water. We've had electricity until they cut the generator 120 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: off at night. 121 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: Wow. 122 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: But that was really experience. We lived out, really out 123 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: this logging camp north of Sylphi for several years. 124 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: What is your last name? H K? 125 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: Partney? 126 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: What is your last name? 127 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: Pitts p I T T S. Yes. 128 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: What does the K stand for? 129 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: Henry Kirby? I was named after our mentor, John Henry 130 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: Kirby out that I told you, and my granddad worked 131 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: for We call him cousin Henry. But he had he 132 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: had a ranch up out of Woodville, four thousand acred place, 133 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: and my grandfather took care of all of his cattle 134 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: and so and then my mother ran with his and 135 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: they were flappers back in the twenties, you know, and 136 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: they had a lot of fun. He was a very 137 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: generous person. John Henry is very generous person and very wealthy. 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: Of course, I don't know if you intended it, HK, 139 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: but you proved my point that you are a man 140 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: of many great stories and experiences. You have made my day. 141 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you called today. Thank you for that. 142 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. It cleans, it clings key, It's done for 143 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: a girl and a boy like Macaberry's show. HK. Pittsman 144 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: who just called discredited with the longhorn symbol that horns 145 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: used today and that every other school does the horns 146 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: down as their way of saying we hate the Longhorns. 147 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: A couple of months ago, the Daily Textan had an 148 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: article seventy years of Pride, the story behind iconic hook 149 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: him Horns sign. In nineteen fifty five, sizzling burrs in 150 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: the soft hum of jukeboxes filled the small drive in 151 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: restaurant in East Texas while students HK. Pitts and his 152 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: sweep mate James leaned against the counter. What began as 153 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: playful teasing between friends quickly turned into the invention of 154 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: a hand sign that would forever change the University of Texas. 155 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: At Austin quote, James and I were sitting and doing 156 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: shadow pictures on the wall. We always did one like 157 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: a cow horn, pitt said. I started poking in the 158 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: eyes with my left hand formed in the hookhm horn 159 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: sign that we use now, and that moment of insight 160 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: came to him and I said that would be a 161 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: great sign for the Longhorns. In November eighteen fifty five, 162 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: the UT football team began preparing for a high stakes 163 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: game against the TCU horn Frogs. As the campus buzzed 164 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: with excitement, nightly rallies took place, students lining the streets 165 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: with candles and signs in support of their team. In 166 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: the middle of it all was Harley Clark, the head 167 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: cheerleader who would bring Pitts's idea to the entire student body. 168 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: Harley got on the stage and Harley said, HK. Pitts 169 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: has come up with this sign, hook em horns, and 170 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: that's going to be the sign of the University of 171 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: Texas from now on. And that's how it started. The 172 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: gesture quickly spread across campus, moving from students to alumni 173 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: in the stands. Pitts didn't realize how far the hand 174 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: sign would reach until months later, when he returned to 175 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: school and saw how widely it had caught on. I 176 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: was in California a few years back, and I did 177 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: have Texas license place, and this car passed me and 178 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: blues horn gave me a hook of horn sign. Pretty 179 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: well endemic all over all over America for sure. For 180 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: Texas alumna Aubrey VN Cleric, who earned both their bachelor's 181 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: and master's degrees from the University of Texas. The hand 182 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: sign represents more than just school spirit, but also connection 183 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: and belonging. VNC cleric said the sign creates a sense 184 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: of community, even among strangers. Then everywhere you go someone 185 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: will recognize it. That feeling of connection hit hardest at 186 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: her first UT football game and then they go on. 187 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: So full disclosure. Mister Pitts contacted me about a month ago. 188 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: I knew him as mister Pitt's. He's one hundred and 189 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: fifty years old. I don't know how old he is, 190 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: but he's old. Nineteen fifty five. He was the youngest 191 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: he could have been was eighteen, which makes him born 192 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: in thirty seven, which makes him ninety years old right now. 193 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: So it doesn't sound ninety does. He's spry fella. So, 194 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: mister Pitts, I did some research. I checked around. Yes, 195 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: he is credited with the hook of morn sign. Because 196 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: it was email to me. You need to know this 197 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: guy HK. Pitts, who interestingly lives in College station. How 198 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: funny is that? It just hit me? So I endeavored 199 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: to arrange a conversation between him and me. Send it 200 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: to Jim Mudd, who has a long list of people 201 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: I'd like to talk to you on the air, and 202 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's been set up or not. 203 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: I guess not. A HK was said something about it, 204 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: so it was not top of mine. When ramone, with 205 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: a full board of calls, said take that take that 206 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: call there. It was not the first call that came in. 207 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't even relevant germane to the subject to hand. 208 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: So if romone thinks he's interesting, might be interesting. So 209 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: I picked it up. And he had a story about 210 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: knowing the Big Bopper and civil Air Patrol. And when 211 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: a guy understands the value of connections like that, he's 212 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna have stories. He's a guy who lives for stories. 213 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: So when I said, I bet you got a lot 214 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: of stories. I bet you regale people with stories. I 215 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: had no idea who I was actually talking to and 216 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: the extent to which that was true. It's pretty modest 217 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: of him. May I say that. He did not say, 218 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: you might remember me. I'm the guy who emoed you. 219 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 1: I came up with the hook of horn sign. He 220 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: didn't do that. He said, well, my wife's a librarian 221 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: at the University of Texas, and you know he loves 222 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: his wife, Gertrude or Olivia or Mildred whatever. He loves 223 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: that woman and to watch them interact would be the 224 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: cutest thing ever, you know, it would be the cutest 225 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: thing ever. Gertrude, Are you gonna bring that shaw or not? 226 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: What you gonna bring the shawl? What? Shaw? 227 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: Who? 228 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: What? Well? You always we get in here and you 229 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: say it's cold, it's cold in here. You always say 230 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: it's cold in here, but you don't bring your shawl. 231 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't need this. Hk's a hundred degrees outside. Well, 232 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: we'll get in there. And you every time it's cold 233 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: in here that ac I always said, it's hot, so 234 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: hot outside you can't stand to get in here. Feels 235 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: like a freezer. I don't know why they gotta turn 236 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: turn that thing off? Can we move? Can we move tables? Oh? 237 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 3: Man? 238 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: She does this every time, freezing cold. So I just say, 239 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: I want you to get your saw. It's one hundred 240 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: degrees outside of HK. What I'm gonna do with the 241 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: shaw because we're gonna get in I just told you 242 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna get inside there, and the whole time you're 243 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: gonna fuss over the fact that it's cold. You're cold 244 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: and sit there and tell me how cold. You are 245 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: the foods is getting cold? And why they gotta turn 246 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: the air getting in? Then we got to ask them 247 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: or turn the air conditioning down. How about we just 248 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: bring your shawl. When you bring your shawl, you're happy. Yeah, 249 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't bring this hot on it. I don't carry 250 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: the shawl. I just where is the thing? 251 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: We? 252 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: I don't want that one? Well what do you want? 253 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: I want the one my mom croucheted to give to me. 254 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: Well where is that? Heck? I don't know. The cat 255 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: was playing with it and drug it down the hallway. 256 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Well I keep what am I gonna go to the 257 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: cat house? You want a shawler? What do you want 258 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: to do? What are we doing doing here? That's that's 259 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: a that's that's my one man show called HK and 260 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: Gertrude and take it on the road. I do it 261 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: all day. I love to watch old people fuss. One 262 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: of my favorite things. And now my wife, who had 263 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: no sense of old people fussing, has developed her own 264 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: routine because she goes and sits with my dad every day. 265 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: So every night at eight thirty he calls for no 266 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: good reason. But he's not a chatty person, never has been, 267 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: and so now he's all alone. He's not he's fussed 268 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: over by a bunch of people in old folks on 269 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: but uh, and he's got my wife visiting him every day, 270 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: and then all my other friends, my law enforcement blades, 271 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: all go by and he can't remember who's who. There's 272 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: one other day from from Trump, from Trump, Dad, Trump visited, 273 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: no one of them from Trump. What are you talking about? 274 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: He come in here, he all this stuff he brought me. 275 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: Oh he's part of Trump's secret service detail. Yeah, Trump, 276 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: Well it's not really Trump anyway. So my wife has 277 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: developed her own avant cassello routine between her conversations and 278 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: my dad every night, and it goes like this. He 279 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: calls her, not me, and he says, she picks up, 280 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Hey Dad, everything all right? Well I might be dead right, 281 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: Well I'm out of cereal, Dad, I was. I just 282 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: left an hour and a half ago and I checked. 283 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: You have four boxes through. I hate not in here. 284 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: Walk around the corner, walk into the closet, Look up 285 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: to the left. Oh, oh yeah, what y'all doing? 286 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: Brother? 287 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: Look at goody. 288 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: The girls all get pretty At closing time. When you're 289 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: listening to the Michael Berry Show, John Adams Rights are. 290 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: The nineteen forty seven Bananza that carried Buddy Ritchie and 291 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: the Bopper to their death was widely known as the 292 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: doctor Killer. Not the easiest plane to fly. Evidently, there's 293 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: a forty seven banansa at the shop I work at 294 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: outside Lagrain, a very small interior. Hard to imagine. Four 295 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: guys crammed in there, have a great day. Somebody else 296 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: email me something that it was called the doctor Killer, 297 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: because you would get these guys had a little money 298 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: and they would go get their pilot's license. You remember 299 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: the old line. The difference between a doctor and God 300 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: is that God doesn't think he's a doctor. Just because 301 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: everyone treats you with such incredible respect doesn't mean that 302 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: you have the proficiency to fly a plane that you 303 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: think you do. And so a lot of planes crash 304 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: with doctors. At one point I had read that it 305 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: was the number one cause of death for doctors between 306 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: the ages of I don't know, twenty eight and fifty, 307 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: which doesn't sound like a lot, but I mean, you 308 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: think it beat it beat the cancer and heart attack. 309 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Apparently it did. It was that common single engine prop 310 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: planes that some guy buys because he's made some money 311 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: and wants to go have the two hundred dollars Hamburger. 312 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: But it's really not really not ready for that. But 313 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: this beachcraft Bonanza, I was told by someone else who 314 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: seemed to have some knowledge of the matter. He said, 315 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: the problem with that plane is it's really fast, and 316 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: that plane will get out ahead of you, and so 317 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: the plane is flying you instead of you flying the plane. 318 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: And that is not uncommon here. It is Bonanza is 319 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: noted to be faster the most light aircraft. And if 320 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: you don't fly very often, you'll find yourself quote behind 321 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: the aircraft end quote. That is, the aircraft is flying you, 322 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,359 Speaker 1: not you flying the aircraft which doesn't have a good outcome. 323 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: That's the best you can do the Bonanza theme song. 324 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: That's the best you got at that moment. That's all 325 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: you make. How much to add flavor to the show, 326 00:16:54,520 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: And that's what you added. I would like to ask 327 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: for your good wishes, kind thoughts, prayers or Bernard Kunda, who, 328 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: at only eighty eight years old, fell and broke his 329 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: hip a couple of days ago. He is the father 330 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: of our own Daryl Kunda. I hope he's not listening. 331 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: I hope he's they've got him meted up on because 332 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: his hip probably hurts, because well both of them, him man, 333 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: his dad. Because right now I would like to tell 334 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: you what Daryl Kunda's job title is on our show, 335 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: but we can't seem to arrive at one and all 336 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: the good ones are taken. So we've thought about maybe 337 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: a contest. We've got to come up with a name 338 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: for I'd hate the man to pass into the afterlife 339 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: without his son having a title. I mean, I feel 340 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: like we need to do something in a rush, you 341 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean, A dying declaration sort of thing, 342 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: you know, deathbed declaration. But as it turned out, you know, 343 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: sometimes I say the stupidest things. Oh, I know you're thinking, Oh, 344 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: we know, you have no idea. I'm at least conscious 345 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: when I'm on the air. So Darryl COONa tells me 346 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: yesterday morning, Hey, my dad fell broke his hip. He's 347 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: eighty eight. We're worried about him. After the morning show, 348 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay back for two hours and then I'm 349 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: gonna leave. It's all right, and I may have to 350 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: be gone the rest of the day. My response, of course, 351 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: go do what you need to do. Family comes first, 352 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: but I said some version of he'll probably die, because 353 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: when you break your hip and you're old, you never heal, 354 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: and I sent it. I wasn't being funny. Uncle Jerry 355 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 1: and I were driving out to Cleveland to look at 356 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: a venue. Tell you about that tomorrow. So I'm riding along, 357 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: smoking my cigar in a good spot. And the way 358 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: my stupid little pea brain works is I make connections. 359 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: So somewhere along the way I learned that you don't 360 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: want old people to fall because often old people will 361 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: die from complications of breaking their hip. And so the 362 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: little nerd in me that needed to show off I 363 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: had some knowledge felt the need to share that fact 364 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: with a guy who's on the way to the air 365 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: to the hospital because his dad just cracked his hip. 366 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: How stupid is that? That's what I did. So I 367 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: didn't calculate it. I did it, and then later I 368 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: got to thinking, huh, well, you've outdone yourself this time. 369 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: But koond to being a pro and good news would ensue. 370 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: He sent me an email. The doc said his bones 371 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: are amazing osteo perosis here, He's got great bone. He said, 372 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: he's surprised it even cracked his bone because his bones 373 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: are so solid. He's gonna heal. He's gonna be fine. 374 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: So that's great news. So Bernard Kunda will be rejoining 375 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: the ranks of the walking, hopefully very soon, with a 376 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: new hip and a great story. Yeah. I didn't wish 377 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: that on him, Ramona, I was trying to commiserate. I 378 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: think I got over my skis on that one. So anyway, 379 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that y'all will send up some great prayers 380 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: and that in some way that will be revealed each 381 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: in its time, and he will know that it was 382 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: your prayers that healed him. And uh, and we will, 383 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: we will. We will save our good name. That's what happened. 384 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: We will save our good Our good name shall be 385 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: saved at this at this moment. Yeah, we've become familiar 386 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: with the ghetto Jazzy Crockett. But hold on. When necessary, 387 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: she'll reminds you she's from Texas. She is out there 388 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: shooting on a farm. 389 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 4: I'm licensed to Carrie, and I also care about agriculture. 390 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: Running so far was running for the United States Senate. 391 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: You know, I served on the ad Committee. I'm the 392 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 4: girl who's actually lived in rural Texas. Oh, the girl 393 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: that is actually driven farm equipment. 394 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: Oh you attractor hole. I had no idea. Women like 395 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: Jazzy Crockett. They don't have time for kids or building 396 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: a family. But if she goes look for a man, 397 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: I think I know where she's going. Tired of city slickers, 398 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: fine country love at Texas farmers Ontile dot. 399 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: Com named Jazzy Jasmin crocket location Washington d C, Baby 400 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: occupation d congresswoman from Texas Patience level expired about me. 401 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: I'll tell you all you need to know about me. 402 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: Donald Trump done none of this ebbedy. 403 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: Well, that's spirited looking for hmmm. 404 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 3: Career politician works well with Democrats on that gun control 405 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 3: hates the voter wall unless you now have to say 406 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 3: you love it to get it. 407 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: That sounds like someone is looking for a rhino. Okay, 408 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: let's see hear what it says. 409 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 3: Hobbies you find attractive and a man fishing mudding crypto. 410 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: Oh no, honey, I'm looking for a man who knows 411 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: how to get the most out of a lobbyist. Bear 412 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 3: steel breakfast number one if you voted for Trump, two, 413 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: if you don't hate Trump, three Trump. She doesn't seem 414 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: to like Trump Texas farmers only dot com city folks 415 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: just don't understand. 416 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: Well, I'll be a match already. Okay, then we're brave 417 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: enough to swipe right on me. 418 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: It's just the fun. 419 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: Tacher drunk walk Wait and I'm steal five hundred miles from. 420 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: The hall the book Bobby Bear to our CECI game 421 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: for five thousand. I was so excited I had to 422 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: be out that weekend. I promoted it. I wanted a 423 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: good crowd. We didn't get a good crowd. I was 424 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: so bummed. Love Bobby Bear. It happens, It happens. That 425 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: song was written by Hetty West Romo, Rick Doakar, Farman 426 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: Ranchriltor says or the Bonanza crasher speaking of was all 427 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: pilot error. Flying in snowy bad weather with no instrument 428 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: rating resulted in icing on the plane and pilot's spatial 429 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: disorientation leading to the crash. One more example of pilots 430 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: flying into weather they are not prepared for. Donny Radley 431 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: writes H. K. Pitts was my junior high football coach 432 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: in Sour Lake, Texas back in the sixties. I sure 433 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: do enjoy your show. Trey Son Stockton says, mister Pitts 434 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: was my elementary principle at Warren Elementary back in the 435 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: late eighties. Very fine man. Also credited for the hook 436 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: of horn sign for ut and you're right, He's got 437 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: a lot of stories. Patsy Schultz writes, I came in 438 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: late on your conversations with HK. I thought you were 439 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: talking to Robert Duvall, who radly to you or mom. 440 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: He sounded so much like him. What an interesting man 441 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: it is, Augustus mccraid, please uner up. What an interesting 442 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: man who reminds me of the old Texas men I 443 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: grew up around. Most of them were all filled hands. 444 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: His voice, his accent, his words take me back many years. 445 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: It makes me homesick for those days. Thank you Zar 446 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: for that conversation. I used to love when Rush would 447 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: pick up his stack of papers and pop him. Leave 448 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: me great joy. Jim says, we're going to do a contest, 449 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: and whoever whoever says a healing prayer for mister Kunda wins. 450 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: Lunch. 451 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: Wins lunch with Daryl Kunda and his dad, Bernard Kunda 452 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: at Felleral American Grill. Okay, that's a nice thing. Should 453 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: we just have people call in and offer a prayer 454 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: that we lock huh, okay, should we do some nice, 455 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: softly and tenderly you know, some nice church music? Seven 456 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: three nine nine, nine, one thousand. Your prayer for mister 457 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: Bernard Kunde eighty eight years younger who fell and broke 458 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: his hip Daryl's daddy. If you would like to call 459 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: up and lead us in a prayer on a serious note, 460 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: we would appreciate it, sending up your prayers that we 461 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: would join in with. Well, you're Catholic, I don't really 462 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: pray to you. Well stands yeah, stand and sit and 463 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: stand and set and stand and set. What was the 464 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: message of church this Sunday? Well, I don't know. They 465 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: did it in Latin. We called it homily. Oh okay? 466 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: Was it meaningful to your life? Are you able to 467 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: apply it? Well? I don't know. It's a real nice church. 468 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 1: There were a lot of rituals. It felt very godly. Oh, 469 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: the Catholics are going to be mad to Gonta send 470 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: an email today. 471 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 3: I have you know. 472 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm a cradle to grave Catholic and I'm offended by 473 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: what exactly you ridiculing Catholics. You sure do that. 474 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: A lot. 475 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: Of the non Christian groups. I think I'm the kindest 476 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: to them if we're honest. Answer the phone now, ramon, man, 477 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: that's not true. There are Catholics who are Christian. They're 478 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: just opus day. I like them opus Day, I really do. 479 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: I do mel Brooks, Dad, oh man, they're hardcore. I 480 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: went to an event at the Houston Museum of Fine Arts. 481 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: Mel Brooks had just come out with the Passion of 482 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: the Christ and he was catching hell from the Jews. 483 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: So I had a friend who's a mentor who's very, 484 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: very influential. Oh, mel Gibson. Sorry, yeah, mel Brooks is Jewish, 485 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: adow and awesome brother. I like the Jews. I love Jews. 486 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: I just wanted to kill I'm on the record. Yeah, 487 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: he's rerue. So anyway, so I was invited to join 488 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: for this event and mel Brooks was there to smooth 489 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: over the piste off Jews, and he was on kind 490 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: of little tour he was gonna do, and he had 491 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: somebody in Houston. They're gonna see how this went. And 492 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: the idea was, I know that Jews are pissed off 493 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: about his passion with Christ. I mean need to understand 494 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: what he was trying to do. And he's gonna make nice. Right. 495 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: So we go in and I'm sitting there on the 496 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: edge and he comes walking in with a purposeful walk, 497 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: I would say, and and a bit like a fella 498 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: who knows he's going in to take his lashings and 499 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: he's ready for it, right, I've seen movies. And he 500 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: comes marching in and he says, I'm going to take 501 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: every question you have, but before I do that, and 502 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: he basically laid out everything he said in the movie, 503 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: and he had no no regrets about it. And they 504 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: were mad, and he didn't care. It was like Donahue 505 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: going up in this. 506 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: You know. 507 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: We were sitting on the risers and I thought, Man, 508 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: mel Gibson, that fella right there, he is not a 509 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: feared of anyone. I admire that. I really don't care 510 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: what your opinion is. You love Jews, you hate Jews, 511 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: you love Christians, you hate Christians, you love America, you 512 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: don't love America. Just be bold about saying it. It 513 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: feels like the people who hate America are a lot 514 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: more bold about saying it than the people who should 515 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: hate the people who hate America