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Speaker 1: She's the owner and created force behind Camic Cakes LLC.

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Speaker 1: Camic Kicks is a chain of gour mat cupcake bootteats

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Speaker 1: which originated in Jacksonville and two thousand and fourteen Andrew

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Speaker 1: extended the brand to incorporate ice cream and form Camic

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Speaker 1: She's also been featured on The Best Thing You've Ever

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Speaker 1: to make conversation my girl A long time, long time

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Speaker 1: And at the early stage it was about put getting

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Speaker 1: about you know. I mentioned your grandmother, then I mentioned

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