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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in, And by welcome back in, I mean

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Speaker 2: well welcome in because we are on the very beginning

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Speaker 2: of the program here on the Tuesday edition. We hope

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Speaker 2: this great country. We appreciate all of you, and we

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Speaker 2: have got a lot to dive into here. The fallout

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Speaker 2: should not be considered safe in Florida. We will discuss

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Speaker 2: how insanely ridiculous that is. Our good friends on the

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Speaker 2: man running for office because he's been too successful compared

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Speaker 2: to other black people, according to Sonny Hostin and so hurt.

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Speaker 2: to Sonny Hostin, who also, by the way, has made

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Speaker 2: millions and millions of dollars herself along the way, but

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Speaker 2: all of that still to come. Also, we're going to

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Speaker 2: be joined by a new OutKick employee, Charlie Arnault, who

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Speaker 2: is absolutely killing it. Some of you have probably seen

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Speaker 2: her on Fox News. She's going to have a new

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Speaker 2: morning show at OutKick, and she has left ESPN and

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Speaker 2: certainly what OutKick as well, represents the triumph of the

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Speaker 2: First Amendment, and so we will break all that down.

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Speaker 2: She is scheduled to join us at two point thirty

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Speaker 2: in the third hour of the program, But we begin

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Speaker 2: with yet another fake white supremacy attack. Now what I

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Speaker 2: mean by this is it's amazing how desperate the Biden

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Speaker 2: White House is and the FBI in the Department of

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Speaker 2: Justice to continue to label white supremacy as the biggest

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Speaker 2: threat that we face as a nation. This is a

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Speaker 2: transparent lie. Last week we played you the audio of

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden at the Howard University commencement address saying the

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Speaker 2: biggest threat that the United States faces is white supremacy.

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Speaker 2: Buck and I have discussed with you how that idea

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Speaker 2: coming from the chief executive, the President of the United States,

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Speaker 2: leads to many people out there in the FBI in

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Speaker 2: the Department of Justice, desperately seeking white supremacists, because that's

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Speaker 2: then how you get promoted. When the boss tells you

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Speaker 2: demonstrate that the boss is right. That's how you can

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Speaker 2: elevate yourself inside of the FBI. Buck, would you agree

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Speaker 2: with that? Like you have a unique experience because you

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Speaker 2: were in the CIA. How much does what your superior

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Speaker 2: say are the things that matter most inside of the

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Speaker 2: inside of that agency. It becomes sort of a self

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Speaker 2: fulfilling prophecy, right, because you pursue it and then provide

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Speaker 2: evidence that what you were told to pursue is significant.

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Speaker 3: It's determinative, it's defining. It's something that when you are

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Speaker 3: told what the let's say in the CIA context, same

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Speaker 3: in the FBI. These are executive branch agencies, which means

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Speaker 3: the White House sets the priority. When the White House

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Speaker 3: That is first order of business within the intelligence community,

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Speaker 3: which makes sense when you think about it because they

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Speaker 3: know that's a joke. Now, the fourth branch of government,

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Speaker 3: specific context, when I was working Intelligence Division and YPD,

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Speaker 3: narco terrorism. They were really bored. The people who were

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 3: We are a part of a white supremacist system. We

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Speaker 4: Anything that any of us think about, do care about.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, politically, has no connection, no connective tissue

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Speaker 3: in any meaningful way. But we're lectured about it. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: the na sea white supremacist. And uh, I'll give a

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Speaker 3: this guy's U haul van, which was anybody even he

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Speaker 2: Or I mean he based a very slow rate of speed.

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Speaker 2: And maybe we should say the fact, we should tell

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Speaker 3: So this guy, this guy crashed a U haul into

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Speaker 3: oh my gosh. The first thing that happens is they

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Speaker 3: lay out by the way, Clay, where's that?

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Speaker 4: Where's the Nashville Manifesto? Did I miss it? Yeah? I know,

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, a guy drives into a barrier outside the White

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Speaker 4: But now the libs love. Let's just give you an

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Speaker 3: We'll play clip one here, because a guy runs a

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Speaker 3: It's the Republican Party's fault. Honestly, Clay, we should blame Trump.

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Speaker 4: Play one.

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Speaker 5: We've been hearing not only from the President but even

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Speaker 4: That's absolutely right.

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Speaker 6: And I think you have to draw a line from

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Speaker 6: it's hard to say how many, but some of the

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Speaker 6: How do we know that because some of those folks

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we get it.

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Speaker 3: So this guy runs his U haul at ten miles

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Speaker 3: It's basically a January sixth rioter clay and a white supremacist.

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Speaker 3: The problem is his name is CSI Varshith Condula.

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Speaker 2: Credit to our friend Carol Markowitz, who was the first

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Speaker 2: In Texas, it was right that the uh that the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and is it even is it even true, were

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Speaker 2: Were the It was a Confederate flag, because I do

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Speaker 4: There were no Nazi flags that I saw.

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Speaker 2: It's just not true, yeah, right, And there's an attempt

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Speaker 2: was eerily similar to me Buck of what they did

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Speaker 2: after the mar Lago raid. They laid out you think

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Speaker 2: like that, and a random so a Zuri Asian guy

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Speaker 2: driving his van. Obviously, I would guess Buck mental issues

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Speaker 2: because you don't typically drive a U haul van into

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Speaker 2: Nazi flag but it doesn't add up, it doesn't fit.

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Speaker 4: That's their narrative. They were going to sell it no

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. You know, there's a

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Speaker 3: buck Sexton show. So another fake white supremacist attack. Here's

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Speaker 3: the thing, though, Buck, when you make these arguments, when

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Speaker 3: deal with in our day to day lives had anything

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Speaker 3: to do with it. Okay, But when you look at

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Speaker 3: what they tried against Trump in twenty sixteen, with the

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Speaker 3: soft coup of the Russia, collusion with the deep state

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Speaker 3: and the media.

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Speaker 4: They were all over it.

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Speaker 3: Everybody on the Democrat Party was in on that, from

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Speaker 3: Pelosi on down. Everybody was trying to destroy Trump with

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Speaker 3: that lie. They were all a part of that coup attempt.

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Speaker 3: And so when you look at it, you see increasingly Claison.

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Speaker 3: This is what really concerns me. These are the seeds

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Speaker 3: of a totalitarian society. And I know that that sounds

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Speaker 3: a little, you know that sounds a little come on, right,

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Speaker 3: But what we saw with COVID and what we see

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Speaker 3: now with the gender ideology stuff and the demand that

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Speaker 3: you have to believe things that are demonstrably untrue to

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Speaker 3: be in good standing with the Democrat Party, what does.

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Speaker 4: That say to people?

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Speaker 3: One of AOC could not come on this show and

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Speaker 3: defend the proposition that biological males men don't have an

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Speaker 3: advantage in women's sports, But she'll pass legislation, and she'll

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Speaker 3: push with her little Twitter account, with her millions of

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Speaker 3: idiot followers, these lies as much as she possibly can,

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Speaker 3: and you'll see this all across the board. With these Democrats.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't even matter that the position is indefensible. The

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Speaker 3: point is they are brainwashing sheep to give them political power.

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Speaker 4: And they know it. They know it.

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Speaker 2: And this is why Buck, when CNN and MSNBC don't

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Speaker 2: cover this, did Rachel Maddow come on and say, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: I know I created a massive belief in all of

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Speaker 2: you that Russia collusion was going on, that Trump was

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Speaker 2: the Manchurian candidate, that the only reason he's in the

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Speaker 2: White House is because of collusion that existed with Russian

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Speaker 2: state security that they rigged the election in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Did she come on at all all and shared the

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Speaker 2: Durham report?

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Speaker 4: Of course not.

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Speaker 2: Have they paid any attention at all to the fact

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Speaker 2: that the Hunter Biden laptop by and large is one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent real, and so, I mean, when you're talking

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Speaker 2: about seventy percent of Democrats, the lies worked. Biden got

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Speaker 2: the cover, remember Buck, they wrote it. It had all

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Speaker 2: of the hallmarks I believe was the phrase of Russian disinformation.

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Speaker 4: Biden went right out.

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Speaker 2: At the debate and argued that has anybody have you

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Speaker 2: seen on MSNBC or CNN them calling back up that

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Speaker 2: comment from the debate and saying, hey, Joe Biden, would

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Speaker 2: you still say this today? Given that everybody now, even

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Speaker 2: these ridiculous left wing media companies have now essentially acknowledged

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Speaker 2: the New York Times, the Washington Post that these are real,

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Speaker 2: This is a real laptop.

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Speaker 3: Think about the weasel words they used to there. You know,

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Speaker 3: you could if you had someone's ring camera footage of

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Speaker 3: them thrown out the you know, taking out the trash

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Speaker 3: in the morning. You could say, Clay, the video I

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Speaker 3: saw has all the hallmarks of someone disposing of a

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Speaker 3: dead body.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Technically true, right, all the hallmarks of dead body disposal. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's actually someone getting rid of some recycling cans, which

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Speaker 3: we can talk about this too, by the way, more

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Speaker 3: information clay recycling is trash, meaning you should throw it out.

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Speaker 3: It's a waste of everyone's time. On the plastic side,

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Speaker 3: for sure, we can talk about some of the other stuff.

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Speaker 3: But the disinformation belief is necessary for democrats these days

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Speaker 3: because otherwise they have to start I think there's a

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Speaker 3: cascading effect that they want to avoid. Once you admit

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Speaker 3: that actually men and women are different, once you have

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Speaker 3: that mental and spiritual fortitude of basic truth, then you

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Speaker 3: start to question other things too. And people want a

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Speaker 3: lot of people want masters, They want to be controlled,

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Speaker 3: they want to obey, and that mindset, that emotional and

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Speaker 3: psychological positioning, is unfortunate. There's a huge crossover with being

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Speaker 3: a democrat and a leftist in America today.

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Speaker 4: You want people to tell you.

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Speaker 3: What to do and what to think and how to believe,

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Speaker 3: and you don't want anyone to challenge that. Freedom is

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Speaker 3: scary for people play. Individualism is scary for a lot

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Speaker 3: of folks out there. That's really what we're seeing as

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Speaker 3: a country.

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Speaker 4: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: And we'll continue to talk about that because my goodness,

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Speaker 2: just the lies, I mean, the lies are getting more

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Speaker 2: and more ridiculous, including we're going to really go after

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Speaker 2: this some of the audio to play for you on Florida,

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Speaker 2: according to left wingers now, the state of Florida, which

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Speaker 2: is setting all time records for tourism and travel, which

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Speaker 2: is adding hundreds of thousands of new residents every single year, White, Black, Asian,

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Speaker 2: and Hispanic. If you're gay or if you are black,

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Speaker 2: the n DOUBLEACP wants you to know it's not safe

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Speaker 2: for you to be in Florida, despite the fact that

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Speaker 2: many of the top officials at the NAACP but the

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Speaker 2: actually in Florida. We'll get into that, we'll have some

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Speaker 2: fun with it in the meantime. How many of you

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Speaker 2: out there are worried about your family's history vanishing. I

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Speaker 2: bet in the back of your mind a lot of

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Speaker 2: you are. You've got older relatives. How about those old

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Speaker 2: VCR tapes? How many people still have a VCR in

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Speaker 2: their house. We had a conversation the other day because

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Speaker 2: we had all the DVDs right, all the old movies

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Speaker 2: that the kids have been watching. We only have one

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Speaker 2: DVD player left, and it just happens to be an Xbox.

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Speaker 2: How much media in your house can you not play?

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Speaker 2: How many of those old VHS tapes are slowly disintegrating

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Speaker 2: right now as I'm talking to you. Those are some

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Speaker 2: of the best memories that you and your family have. Dad, Grandma, Grandpa,

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Speaker 2: somebody walking around with that camcorder on the shoulder, giving

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Clay and Buck eight hundred two eight

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Speaker 3: two two a A two. We got a bunch of

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Speaker 3: calls coming in. We also wanted to share some of

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Speaker 3: the audio out there that we have with all of you.

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Speaker 3: First off on this on this notion of disinformation the BBC,

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Speaker 3: which you know, if you ever want to watch news

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Speaker 3: that's meant to make you fall asleep in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the day, turn on the BBC.

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Speaker 4: It does a very good job, you know, it's always.

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Speaker 3: Somehow everyone and there's still this belief with the BBC

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Speaker 3: that if it's news from a part of the world

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Speaker 3: that no one's like been to, who's watching it or

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Speaker 3: really cares much about it's that's the most important news.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: If it's a country you have to Google to find

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Speaker 3: out where it is, like then the BBC is all

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Speaker 3: over it. But BBC is launching you see this Clay

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Speaker 3: VBC Verify. You're going to see more and more of this.

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Speaker 3: So it's a news organization that is working to tell

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Speaker 3: everybody what the truth is, to root out disinformation.

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Speaker 4: Play two.

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Speaker 7: Welcome to BBC Verifies. We are a team of investigative journalists.

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Speaker 7: The point of the teeth is to verify video, to

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Speaker 7: fact check, to counter disinformation, and to analyze really complex

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Speaker 7: stories so we can get to the try. I'm investigating

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Speaker 7: the UK's conspiracy theory movement. I'm trying to understand more

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Speaker 7: about how it's evolved and intensified since the pandemic. I'm

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Speaker 7: looking at the alternative media that finds itself at the

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Speaker 7: heart of this movement, and a conspiracy theory newspaper that's

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Speaker 7: a part of that as well.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at the way weird enough.

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Speaker 3: As much as I love the fancy accent, which I do,

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Speaker 3: actually it's such an advantage British accent. We all know this, right,

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Speaker 3: Like you see this various friends of ours with British

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Speaker 3: accents that call them the show.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, that's just not fair.

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Speaker 3: But Clay noticed that the focus is immediately on the

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Speaker 3: conspiracy theorists in the era of COVID. Why doesn't the

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Speaker 3: BBC have a fact check going on of the National

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Speaker 3: Health Service getting every single aspect of COVID entirely wrong

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Speaker 3: and killing more people than would have died if they

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Speaker 3: had just sat on the sidelines and let people live

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Speaker 3: their lives.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One reason why we talked yesterday about why there's such

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Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of distrust out there is because once

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Speaker 2: you are a where that someone has either lied to

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Speaker 2: you or willfully distorted facts in a way that is

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Speaker 2: equivalent to a lie, why would you ever trust those

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Speaker 2: people again? And the idea that you can't trust the

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Speaker 2: CDC anymore because you know that they lied to you

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Speaker 2: when they said that masks were eighty percent effective. Even

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Speaker 2: worse than that, they said, remember for a while, Hey,

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Speaker 2: if everybody would just wear a mask for one month,

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Speaker 2: we would end COVID forever. No, those were lies, right,

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Speaker 2: and that now the COVID shot is basically vanishing. I

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Speaker 2: even saw buck. Did you see this? Remember the J

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Speaker 2: and J shot you got? They're destroying it and not

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Speaker 2: even allowing it to continue to exist. For anybody out

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Speaker 2: there who got the Johnson and Johnson COVID shot, they

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Speaker 2: are legitimately destroying it and no longer allowing it to

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Speaker 2: exist anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Is what is the value of something that you throw

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Speaker 3: in the trash clay? It is worthless? Yes, the shot

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Speaker 3: is true, worthless, not even worth recycling because you can't

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Speaker 3: The shot is absolutely positively not even worth storing or

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Speaker 3: holding on to or giving away for They literally cannot

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Speaker 3: give this stuff away for free because nobody wants it,

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Speaker 3: and we're supposed to think that this was somehow a

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Speaker 3: good process. I'm telling people, and I hate to because

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Speaker 3: I know that they're a lot. Look, you know, early days,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't the fog of war period of COVID and

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Speaker 3: everything else. When you read the real data on the ventilators,

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Speaker 3: and this really hits home. I mean, the only person

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Speaker 3: that I knew personally, trying to make sure that's correct,

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Speaker 3: the only person that I knew personally who died from

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Speaker 3: COVID died on a ventilator and died early on in

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Speaker 3: the pandemic. When you see what the real data shows

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Speaker 3: you about the rush to put COVID patients on ventilators,

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Speaker 3: it'll make your stomach turn because a lot of them

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Speaker 3: would have lived if they had just chosen a different modality.

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Speaker 3: And there are people who tell you from inside of

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Speaker 3: these big hospitals, staff was so scared because of Fauci

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Speaker 3: and because of Northern Italy and because of what was happening,

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Speaker 3: and everyone's so freaked out that they didn't really want

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Speaker 3: to deal with constant care of people that were having

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Speaker 3: trouble breathing because they were afraid of COVID, so they

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Speaker 3: stuck them unventilated. I mean, you know, if we're gonna

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Speaker 3: fact check, if we're going to speak the truth about

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Speaker 3: every but no, the BBC is going to look at

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Speaker 3: the conspiracy theoristso or anti vacs. I hate that term too,

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Speaker 3: because anti codevacs just means you can read. It just

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Speaker 3: means you know math and English or whatever language you're reading.

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Speaker 4: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I would say the one really great

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Speaker 2: addition that Elon Musk has brought to Twitter so far,

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Speaker 2: this community notes concept where they can check and provide

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Speaker 2: context on many of the tweets that are out there,

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Speaker 2: often on far left wingers