WEBVTT - All Things Ferocious with Bachelorette Jenn!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome back to bad You're Happy Hour. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and I'm Serena and we are here today with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor at herself Jen Jen, welcome back. How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to be back. I missed you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we missed you too. We were saying right before

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<v Speaker 1>you got here a year. This is your fourth time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure we're gonna probably have you at least

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<v Speaker 1>two more times. That would be sick. So you might

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<v Speaker 1>be the most interviewed person ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Joey, this is up there, and so is Bryden from

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<v Speaker 3>Charity season.

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<v Speaker 1>We had him a lot too, We had.

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<v Speaker 3>Him so many times. He's always on the podcast. He's great.

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel like you're gonna rival them at some point,

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<v Speaker 3>which is great because we love having you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll think about it. Depends how this one goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's yeah, She's like, I hated it. I'm knocking back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, fuck you guys, stop calling me on this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's new? How you feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling great? Nothing knew, nothing crazy new. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you engaged now? Let's let's kind of break down.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, are you back in school?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I could not be doing everything that I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>right now and being in school now. I tried to

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<v Speaker 2>for like a week and I was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>doing that, So no, I'm not in school.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I no, that would be just so incredibly overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know when you'll go back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go back in January. So I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>ride the waves out for the rest of the year

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<v Speaker 2>and then yeah, go back to like really really normal

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<v Speaker 2>life in January, which I'm excited for.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna break down. We want to break

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<v Speaker 1>down this week's episode because it was wild and we

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk about your acts coming back. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we do, let's kind of get into just like you

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<v Speaker 1>being a bachelorette, you know, or just night one, you're

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<v Speaker 1>riding up in the limo. What's going on in your head?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in my head, I was kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is nothing different than flirting with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>men at the bar, except they're all coming to you

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<v Speaker 2>out of a limo instead of like you to them

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<v Speaker 2>at the bar and having them buy your drinks. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I wasn't like, I was like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of nervous, but not really. I feel like at that

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<v Speaker 2>point I was like kind of all used to like

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<v Speaker 2>the cameras and everything, so I was very much like

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be myself as much as possible, and I

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<v Speaker 2>really just had fun with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel the difference though, from being in the

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<v Speaker 1>limbo pulling up as the lead opposed to being in

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<v Speaker 1>limo pulling up as a contestant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't black out this time around. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>was so comfortable in my own skin and I wasn't nervous,

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<v Speaker 2>and I felt like this time around, I felt really

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<v Speaker 2>in control of things. Like I just felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>knew what was going to happen, or like I knew

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<v Speaker 2>what I was going to say, Like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I felt just more comfortable in my own skin

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<v Speaker 2>than the other way around. Where you come into this

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<v Speaker 2>world that you've never been in before, and you're just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a little sheep in a farm.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes sense looking back now, What were the night

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<v Speaker 3>when entrances that really stood out to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? I came with the balloons for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We really didn't talk about him much on Night one.

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<v Speaker 3>But every time I think of Night one, I picture

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<v Speaker 3>you and then I put your Headkeey with the balloons.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too, Me too, because the balloons reminded me of

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<v Speaker 2>the movie Up and I thought it was so cute,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I really liked it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a sad movie, though I know I never watched it,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's why everyone says.

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<v Speaker 2>That one's also like kind of romantic, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy pulled up with his nice car and his big

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<v Speaker 2>penis whatever, that was a big moment as well. And

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<v Speaker 2>then what else was there? Oh, Jonathan with the gown

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<v Speaker 2>and the mask, and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Were there any guys from their limo entrances that you

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<v Speaker 1>knew you were keeping and or knew you were not keeping?

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<v Speaker 1>Just based off of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well, I didn't like definitively say no in my head,

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<v Speaker 2>but in my head I was like, well, give him

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation, but if it's still like just not it,

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<v Speaker 2>then he's going home kind of thing. Like I think

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't like a strict yes or no out of

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<v Speaker 2>the limo. I really think the conversations later in the

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<v Speaker 2>night played a big role in like my decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there anyone that you were felt more nervous around.

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<v Speaker 2>On Night one? I don't know if I was maybe

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<v Speaker 2>like Sam m I think, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That that checks out. At least from the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the first few episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, I don't know if you're like this,

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<v Speaker 3>but I am. I'm never really nervous about a first

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<v Speaker 3>flirty convo with a hottie, but I get nervous once

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<v Speaker 3>I realized I might like them, and that's when the

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<v Speaker 3>nerves set in exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't think I was super nervous with him

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<v Speaker 2>on night one, but as obviously as the episode's gone, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely got more nervous with him because then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I like him, But on night one, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I was like really comfortable with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice. How did you feel about not being the mansion?

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<v Speaker 2>It felt good. I mean, obviously there's like a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of nostalgia, so like the Bachelor Mansion, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of looking forward to being back there and all

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<v Speaker 2>the memories coming back. But I also felt like a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of kind of refreshing, like renewal situation going on,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like, I am kind of breaking the

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<v Speaker 2>mold in a lot of ways just being the first

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<v Speaker 2>an Asian American bachelrette. And and so I think having

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<v Speaker 2>a new mansion was like, was was good vibes? I

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<v Speaker 2>liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if you could

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<v Speaker 1>disclose this. Did you know that you were traveling right away?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know you were going to Australia?

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't exactly know, sort of like Jesse told

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<v Speaker 2>me on the first night, and I was so excited,

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<v Speaker 2>But I had heard kind of rumors beforehand from previous girls.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they knew that rumors were kind

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<v Speaker 2>of going right, So I didn't know for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But also it wasn't like it was something that you

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<v Speaker 1>were prepped with from the show. No, no, oh nice,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually that makes it more fun, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a lot of fun when Jesse told

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<v Speaker 2>me on the first thing, because I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're actually going Like that's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was crazy. That was such a quick turnaround.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you happy that you were kicking off your season

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<v Speaker 3>with travel? I mean, it's been so cool seeing you

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<v Speaker 3>guys travel to all these new places.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I love to travel. Also, Australia is a sick location.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always wanted to go. It's been on my bucket list,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was stoked, and I think it really it

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<v Speaker 2>changes the show a little bit, you know, because usually

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<v Speaker 2>you travel a little bit later and then things get

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more serious. But I think because we

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<v Speaker 2>traveled so early, these relationships grew a lot faster.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your thoughts on the veggiemite and the kangaroo testes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I forgot about that the kangaroo.

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<v Speaker 2>Balls, that the kangaroo testicles were actual kangaroo testsles. I

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<v Speaker 2>like to think of. I had that I a kangaroo

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<v Speaker 2>meat ball, because like, no way, kangaroo tescles are actually

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly that circular. I don't know, that just makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>They were really tiny too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would imagine kangaroo testcles are a bit bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would think kangaroos have some big heavy ball

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<v Speaker 1>I think so too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well, all about in Australia, they sell those kangaroo

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<v Speaker 2>testicle beer openers. It's like a big thing in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>I bought like ten of them in my sensive family.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently they're like made out of real kangaroo high

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<v Speaker 2>or kangaroo balls. I don't know. I haven't done a

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<v Speaker 2>research on it, but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not how similar is new Zealand and Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty similar. It's same in the sense that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very laid back vibe. But when we were in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>we were in Melbourne, so it was very city and

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<v Speaker 2>then when we were in Auckland, we had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more dates that were in the countryside, kind of more

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<v Speaker 2>scenic dates, so we were out of the city a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more, which I love.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think this happened in episode I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>this happens in episode two where we see you're having

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation with Devin and Thomas Polls Devon and instead

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<v Speaker 1>of you, and like they get into an argument, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that was I mean, it was really

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<v Speaker 1>early on in the season, but like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we really see you after that conversation kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>step up and you're like, Okay, this is my fucking show,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm the lead, Like what are you kind of doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What was going through your head when that went down?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was crazy. We've never seen that before.

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<v Speaker 2>I was definitely a little annoyed. I was just really confused.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's funny now watching it back, seeing all the

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<v Speaker 2>build up to that moment, like seeing what was going

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<v Speaker 2>on in the house, but in them, I went like,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what was going on. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>there was drama or anything. So I was just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>with Devin and Thomas pulls him aside instead of just

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<v Speaker 2>talking to me, which I thought was weird, And immediately

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<v Speaker 2>they're like arguing in the corner, and I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>right here, I can hear you, so I'm gonna go listen,

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<v Speaker 2>like I want to know what's going on. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna sit here, and yeah, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was like a weird way to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>go about things. Personally, I think like the root of

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<v Speaker 2>that issue was time and sees me being respectful of

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's time and getting enough time with me, But then

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like that counteracted the actual issue because then

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<v Speaker 2>I was just sitting there alone instead of Tom's talking

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<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching all this back for the first time. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you most shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>About in that episode?

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<v Speaker 1>Not that episode front four, Like what like the guy's bickering,

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<v Speaker 1>like all the drama, Like you weren't privy to any

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely the guy's drama. I had no idea obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>In I think it was the second episode, when Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>and Devin were kind of pulling each other from me

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<v Speaker 2>during that group day cocktail party, I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there's something going on there, but I had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea the extent of the big ring between the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>If Aaron didn't send, if Aaron didn't have to leave

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<v Speaker 1>for work, did you see that relationship going anywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, no, I you know, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe see where things were going. But in my head

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, I had some really strong connections with

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<v Speaker 2>the other guys, so I wasn't necessarily like artwork and

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<v Speaker 2>that Aaron was leaving. I was honestly just genuinely happy

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<v Speaker 2>for him to get this opportunity that he's been wanting

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<v Speaker 2>for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>How pissed were you when he told you some of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys are here for the wrong reasons and then

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<v Speaker 1>didn't tell you who.

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<v Speaker 2>Immediately so pissed? Okay, here's my thing with that is

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<v Speaker 2>that if you're gonna say that you're gonna leave, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I support you in all of your dreams, But then

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me that there are people here not for

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<v Speaker 2>the right not here for the right reasons, But then

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<v Speaker 2>you won't tell me exactly who, and then you tell

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<v Speaker 2>me that you trust my decision making, and then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>make the right decision. But then it's like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>trust me, don't don't tell me that, then yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna play out. And then and then that's that. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like him dropping that bomb was a little

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<v Speaker 2>selfish in a way, because if you're gonna drop the bomb,

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<v Speaker 2>like drop all of the bombs, that tell me who

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<v Speaker 2>is like stick with your gut with it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But he did it, and that is what aggravated me.

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<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily that I would have trusted who he would

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<v Speaker 2>have said, because at that point I trusted myself a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more than this guy that I had just known

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple of weeks. But it was just an

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<v Speaker 2>annoying situation to have to do.

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<v Speaker 3>It when he said that, were there any guys that like,

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't have to say the names if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to, or you can. Were there any guys

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<v Speaker 3>that like jump to the front of your mind of like,

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it's X this person or I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've already had those doubts about this person.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I immediately thought that Aaron was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>done it, and I wanted him to just say it,

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<v Speaker 2>like say.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, because you know at this point that they already

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<v Speaker 3>have beef.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly Like I wasn't blind. I knew that they had

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<v Speaker 2>beef from the ice cream situation, so I wasn't dumb,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, if you're gonna do it, like,

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<v Speaker 2>man up and do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the ice cream thing, I want to touch

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<v Speaker 1>on that a little bit because you were someone on

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<v Speaker 1>Joey's season who I thought was a little more You

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<v Speaker 1>were a little more forward on group dates, like we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see you pull Joey to the side and

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<v Speaker 1>like give him a kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>I did the piano thing. You guys had a little

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<v Speaker 3>piano moment in front of the group.

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<v Speaker 1>So would you consider Devin pulling you for ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>comparable to how you were on group dates or was

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<v Speaker 1>it just way out of left field?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would pretty much agree that I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>went into these groups on the other side with the

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<v Speaker 2>mindset of, like, you got to make your own little moments,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what that is, And so for Devin to

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<v Speaker 2>pull me for ice cream, I thought it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in the same mindset of like, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>to make a moment where I can and when I can,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that it showed really great initiative.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I liked it, but it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>watching it back where you shocked that all the guys

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<v Speaker 1>were like, what the fuck I was?

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<v Speaker 2>I was very to see that. Yeah, I had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea if they were so it is so shook it

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<v Speaker 2>up by it. Yeah, they hit it.

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<v Speaker 3>So did you have any inclination though, because we did

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<v Speaker 3>see that a lot of them were roasting Devin on

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<v Speaker 3>that group date.

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<v Speaker 2>I did see that, but I still at that point

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know that that was a result of the ice cream.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotcha, but I was like, oh, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's Yeah, like if anything, I would think in your situation,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd probably think like he's kind of like the most

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<v Speaker 1>outgoing in the house and probably friends with everyone, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they're roasting him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know what I was thinking at that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I had anything made up, Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>it just didn't know enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, we saw a lot of the comments about Devon,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm sure there was a lot of other comments

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<v Speaker 3>made to about other guys in the roasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, She's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like No, it was literally it was. It was everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was just ripping on Devin.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually kind of boys a lot of ripping on dev.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's cut to current episode four. We see

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<v Speaker 1>Sam M gets Sam M.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam and and yeah, we've been having a really hard

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<v Speaker 3>time with the ms versus the ns for the Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't mess up the letters the roaster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're probably like, I've never enunciated better in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got you choose Sam M for your one

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<v Speaker 1>on one date, and it just starts off really rough,

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't want to do it, which I would hate.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally would hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe and I are hates people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have just been like, no, like I'm not doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>like fuck off. But we kind of see Sam like

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<v Speaker 1>makes the decision for you. So let's talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was pissed. I was really really pissed. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I want I wanted someone to be there

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<v Speaker 2>for me in that moment because I as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>I landed in New Zealand, I saw the freaking tower

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, I already jumped out of a plane.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not jumping off with the needle. Okay, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that was a thing that people did.

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<v Speaker 2>No, But funny enough, like our driver just like started

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it. So in that moment I knew that

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<v Speaker 2>was a thing then, but I was like that that

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<v Speaker 2>won't be me. I'm not doing that. So when we

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<v Speaker 2>got up there we were having drinks, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh God, there's just no way this is actually going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. So I was already scared yet for the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you've been on the show before, like as a contestant,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know how it works. You're probably sitting at

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<v Speaker 3>this table being like, there is a very good chance

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<v Speaker 3>someone tries to get me to jump off this building.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we're not here for no reason exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You're never just there for the view or something.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're like, oh, this date is not just a

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred and sixty dinner reservation.

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely not. So in the back of my kind

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<v Speaker 2>of more news and I was, yeah, I was upset,

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<v Speaker 2>but he wasn't hearing me out. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't just make a decision for me, like you have

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<v Speaker 2>to always ask me if I wanted to, and you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even do that. So in that moment, I was very,

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<v Speaker 2>very upset.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there any was because was there any like flirtatious flirtatiousness?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a word?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>A word right now? Was there any like? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>more like was he trying to do it in a

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<v Speaker 1>more of a flirty way or a fun way.

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<v Speaker 3>Or what was his energy about the whole thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, if I'm getting it, was more so

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<v Speaker 2>he was really he really is an adrenaline drunkie, so

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<v Speaker 2>he knew he wanted to do it. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>for him, as someone who doesn't really have a fear

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<v Speaker 2>of heights or a fear of anything, it's like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be fine at the end of the day, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's just a fear, but you'll get over it

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<v Speaker 2>once you do it. So I think in the moment

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't necessarily thinking of how scared somebody could be.

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<v Speaker 2>But obviously things turned around in the middle of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean I think maybe it was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit flirty, but also a little bit like I

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<v Speaker 2>just know you're gonna be fine, so don't be scared.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it felt like the conversation, the communication wasn't aligned,

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<v Speaker 3>like he wasn't getting what your problem with it was,

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<v Speaker 3>and you weren't understanding how he could be so insensitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And I think that was like the upsetting

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<v Speaker 2>part of it too, was like I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>communicate how scared I was and it wasn't see.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you're probably thinking, I'm already scared, I already

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to do this, and now I'm at the

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<v Speaker 3>very least going to have to go walk out there

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<v Speaker 3>with someone that I'm not feeling very supported by in

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<v Speaker 3>this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that was definitely the kicker at that moment too.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, if I'm gonna have to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have loved to have done it with somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who was supportive in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, what was worse walking around the building or

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<v Speaker 1>just jumping.

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<v Speaker 2>Walking around was so much you could see through the

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<v Speaker 2>grates and they were like wide, wide gaps in between

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<v Speaker 2>the greats that you were walking. It was, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was windy and I didn't there were so many wires.

0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I was like, which one's actually hooked up to me? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Which one do I hold on too? If I fall?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I hated every second of that and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll never do that. That is top like the most

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<v Speaker 2>scary thing I've ever done my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I said the same. That reminded me of myself

0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.400
<v Speaker 1>because the first time I, the first and only time

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<v Speaker 1>I went skydiving, I did it. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>never doing that again, Like I don't I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to do this shit ever again.

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<v Speaker 3>And we were saying the walking, I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>so much worse because you're like lingering in a place

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<v Speaker 3>that you're so scared, whereas at least jumping you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm going to be scared. But then the

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<v Speaker 3>minute I jump off, I just like I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>just get me to the ground as fast as possible,

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<v Speaker 3>Like get me off this platform and to the ground,

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<v Speaker 3>because being on the platform is the worst part we

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<v Speaker 3>have in Toronto. Like the sea In Tower has a skywalk,

0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.399
<v Speaker 3>which is very very similar. You can't jump off the

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<v Speaker 3>sea In Tower, but you can like hang off of

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<v Speaker 3>it the same way that Sam m was, except it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like your fully straight legged, like leaning backwards. I

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<v Speaker 3>have friends and cousins that have done it, and it

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<v Speaker 3>just looks like a horrible time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I'm done with any sky towers, any space

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<v Speaker 2>needs whatever. I'm done no more. Yeah, in my arch memesis,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So do you think the turning point in that date

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<v Speaker 3>was when you eventually got emotional about the situation. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you think it kind of took that for him to

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<v Speaker 3>really see how scared you were?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely think the turning point was when I

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<v Speaker 2>really broke down and just started sobbing. And I think

0:19:56.040 --> 0:20:00.240
<v Speaker 2>he realized, oh, she's not making this up. She's like

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<v Speaker 2>actually terrified and is prying. So yeah, I think the

0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:06.960
<v Speaker 2>tears definitely helped him come back to earth with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then how is he moving forward or how is

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<v Speaker 3>the date moving forward?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean after we jumped, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>I felt great. I forgot all about it. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never thinking about this again, and and yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was great from from then on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the rugby date right now, well he needed

0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:31.399
<v Speaker 1>to talk about within the rugby day. Now you watched this?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have you watched this back?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I guess sam N. Now let's let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to sam N. So, so you know, what were your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts with how sam N was acting during the rugby game.

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<v Speaker 2>During the rugby game, I thought that he was aggressive,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought that was. I think he used to

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<v Speaker 2>play football in high school, so I thought that was

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.280
<v Speaker 2>just kind of like his like competitiveness just coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't think that there was malicious intent to it,

0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I wasn't hearing exactly everything that he was saying,

0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.959
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, in his after that he like was

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<v Speaker 2>like trying to be super crazy about it. I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was having he was just having fun and

0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.560
<v Speaker 2>just showing his competitive side. But I thought I was

0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:28.760
<v Speaker 2>like friendly to ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was saying earlier, kind of his his energy

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:34.960
<v Speaker 3>felt like he gave himself a pep talk and then

0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:36.879
<v Speaker 3>chugged to Celsius and ran on the field. Like it

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<v Speaker 3>just felt really elevated compared to what we've seen from

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.239
<v Speaker 3>him the past few weeks. Did it feel different to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Did it feel like there was a shift in him

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<v Speaker 3>at all?

0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:48.600
<v Speaker 2>It felt like a shift, And honestly I was. I

0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 2>was surprised, and I liked it because I think, like

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:54.119
<v Speaker 2>having so many layers for a person and seeing different

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.240
<v Speaker 2>sides of them is fun. So I liked seeing a

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 2>different side of him in that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Who else stood out during the rib of the date?

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan was a really good runner. He took a lot

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 2>of tackles. John m was the MVP of the game.

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 3>He was, Yeah, we haven't seen much of him, but

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 3>he was good during the game.

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.239
<v Speaker 2>I know, he was amazing. I was. I was very,

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.920
<v Speaker 2>very impressed, and I think his personality really came out

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 2>that day and I was excited about that.

0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 3>We saw Marcus hurt himself in the game. How bad

0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.119
<v Speaker 3>was the injury or how bad did you think it

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:31.320
<v Speaker 3>might have been at the time.

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was worse than he was letting on.

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:37.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, the game, I kind of saw him take

0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 2>a blow and I didn't really understand how bad it

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 2>was until we were kind of back in the locker

0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:46.399
<v Speaker 2>room and drinking the champagne whatever, and he was being

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 2>really really quiet, and I was like, oh, like he's

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:52.119
<v Speaker 2>actually like really hurt, you know, but he's putting on

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:53.960
<v Speaker 2>a break face, which is why I checked up on

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 2>him after at the cocktail party.

0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:00.240
<v Speaker 1>So as a lead, you make your first early cut chap,

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 1>you get rid of Sam and the.

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 3>God.

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's just how it goes sometimes I should do

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that as how the chop.

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Job, you guys are done, No Rose get.

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Out before like going into that conversation, did you. Did

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you know you were going to do that or were

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you just like, this guy is ten steps of head

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>of where I am and I'm never going to get there.

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Did Did you come to that realization mid conversation?

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. It was kind of big conversation when

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 2>he It was like when he came back and asked

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:39.360
<v Speaker 2>for a kiss. You know, I was like reevaluating where

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I was at with him in comparison to a lot

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.680
<v Speaker 2>of the other guys in the room, and with him,

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I think I realized, like, I love talking to him,

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and I loved kind of helping him along through whatever

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 2>he was going through that day, and so I loved

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.640
<v Speaker 2>your little chats, but I don't think that I saw

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 2>it as anything more so when he asked for that kiss,

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 2>and I immediately kind of knew I didn't really want to.

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I can't spring him along anymore, and

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 2>so I ultimately had to make that part decision and home.

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Were you surprised by what you saw with his behavior

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 3>and conflict amongst the guys, like at the cocktail party

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 3>while you were talking to other people.

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, again, I have no idea what goes

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 2>on in the house, So it's It's crazy watching it

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>back to see how much conflict there is and how

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 2>much I didn't know about it, which in a way

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 2>is good. I'm glad no one wasted their time telling

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 2>me about whatever was going on. But yeah, kind of crazy.

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Going into your Devin date. Did you were you aware

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit that Devin and sam m really didn't

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>like each other?

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I actually had no idea.

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Wow, okay until I watched the show, No way.

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>And how was that date seemed to be from beginning,

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>middle and end seemed to be really a really great

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 1>date and it seemed like you guys really started connecting

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:17.439
<v Speaker 1>at that point.

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the date set us up for success

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 2>in a way that you know, the date wasn't just

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 2>we were doing it tivy or anything like. We were

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:29.439
<v Speaker 2>also connecting in a lot of family values and just

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 2>speaking about tradition and like where we come from and

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 2>what makes this us. So we think the day portion

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 2>was great for us to be able to connect on

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 2>that and get vulnerable so early on that it was

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 2>also easy to then later in the night get really

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 2>vulnerable other things that make this us and connect on

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 2>those as well. So I think the day overall was

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 2>was really really good for us.

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I always think, like, for example, like Sam and watching

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 3>episode four, I always think it's going to bring those

0:25:56.320 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 3>people so much closure on the fact that you and him.

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 3>For us as viewers, it's so clear you're not a fit.

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 3>And for him to be able to see how far

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.679
<v Speaker 3>along your relationship with because like we see him go

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 3>home and then your relationship with Devon right, and it's

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.719
<v Speaker 3>just two different stages. Like Devin is so many light

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 3>years ahead in terms of you guys's connection and even

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 3>like Sam m and some of the other guys, for

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 3>sam And to be like, wow, like I hadn't even

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 3>kissed her yet, and this is kind of where her

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 3>other connections were. I always just think like, there's there's

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:28.959
<v Speaker 3>closure in that, you know.

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's so true. That's so true. And that's why

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I would never want to string anybody along

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 2>because then if they watched that back and they're like, oh, well,

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 2>why did she even keep me along? If like she

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 2>had all these other great connections.

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, what's the best part of dating multiple guys

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and falling for multiple guys that are so different from

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>each other?

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 2>That's part.

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>And or worst part, I guess.

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I will say when I date, and I'm very much

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I have tunnel vision. I don't think about anybody else.

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't think about the other possibilities. I stay on

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>one track and that's that. So for me to be

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:16.360
<v Speaker 2>able to explore and to constantly be open to all

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 2>these different relationships, it really helped me kind of put

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>into perspective and put into and have my priority straight

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 2>on what I wanted out of a partner at the

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 2>end of it all, you know, so I was able

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>to really compare contrast each relationship and be like, this

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 2>is what I like, this is what I don't like.

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 2>Can this person provide me this or no? And it's like,

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>if this person is providing me this and this one isn't,

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 2>then the answer is easy, right, If you're dating in

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 2>the real life and someone's not providing you with something,

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 2>at least for me, I still have tunnel vision. I'm like, well,

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 2>I really like all these other qualities, so I'm going

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>to trying to make it work.

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 3>And it's easy to be like, but what if no

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 3>one gives me that? You know, what if I go

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 3>out looking and I never find that in anyone, and

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe I should just stick with what good

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 3>things that I get here, because like, I don't want

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 3>to go out and you know, not find what I'm

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 3>looking for, but you're able to kind of see like

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 3>someone will give it all to you and it's just

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 3>a matter of finding the right person.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>You got options.

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Actually I like my options. I didn't know that I

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 2>would be an options world, but I.

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Like, Okay, let we won't take up too much more

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of your time. Last segment, we do need to touch

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>on Matthew Matthew. Matthew Matthew. So watching it back, I'm

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:39.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of like, I think this was more of

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a fling, and I felt like Jen doesn't really didn't

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>really know he felt this strongly about her. But that's

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>just my That's that's what I took from it, and

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I could be one hundred percent wrong. So, yeah, you

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>want to just kind of break down the situation.

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, your history with this guy before we chat

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 3>about him showing up in New Zealand.

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Sure. Yeah, so we had dated when I lived in

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Boston about three years ago. We met on him to

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>we dated for like wemonsish.

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 3>And exclusively, like he was your boyfriend, you were only

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 3>dating him?

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was me and him, and we were a boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever,

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and then things just like didn't really work out. He

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 2>was really young, I was really young, you know, like

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>a classic. So and then I think like a few

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>months had passed and then we kind of got back

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>together for a little bit, and then I decided this

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 2>was just like not it. And then I think a

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 2>few more months had passed after that second like reincarnation,

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and I was so happy with that because he is

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>someone who's like such a good person, and I kind

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>of came to terms with the fact that like we're

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>at different like places in our lives. So we had

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>stayed in touch as friends for like a couple of

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>years like here and there, like nothing crazy, and then

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 2>after or Joey's season, we did talk on the phone

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>every now and then about like TikTok stuff and all

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, and we really somebody could talk to you about,

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, stuff on TikTok and whatever else is going

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>on my life. And I've known him for so long.

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 2>He knows my family, I know his family, so like

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 2>we have this history and I found comfort in that,

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 2>and so I was really really surprised when he came

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 2>and basically confessed his love yeah.

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So what were the reasons because you said you

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of tried, you didn't work out. You tried, it

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 3>didn't work out. Was there like one big reason that

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't working out or was it just like you

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 3>guys were arguing, you weren't connecting.

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>We did it three years ago, so we were just

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 2>so young and so like he never prioritized me, and

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I was still learning so much about myself. I didn't

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>know how to communicate, I didn't know how to be

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 2>in a good relationship. Like I was just like I

0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 2>was kind of a mess too. So you know, like

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>it just didn't work out.

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Right, like at the time, because you guys were so young,

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 3>you didn't have the skills to kind of nourish a

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 3>healthy relationship together, and it kind of just fizzled out.

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>All right. So so it's three years into the future,

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>You're now the bachelorette dating multiple men, and Matthew shows

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>up in New Zealand and you see him. What is

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>going on? What is going through your head?

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Funny enough, my very very initial reaction was shocked. I

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, what the heck is he doing here? But

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>then I was also like, oh my god, like a

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 2>friendly face like, and I hugged him and then and

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 2>in my head I was kind of like, oh, is

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>he look cure to the advice or something? And then

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 2>and then it kind of clicked. I was like, no way,

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 2>he's here to give me advice. That would be really

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>weird too. So I kind of slowly was like, Okay,

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I kind of get why you're here. But then I

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 2>was also like why are you here? So I was

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 2>very shocked. We were in New Zealand. It's like, if

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>we were in I don't know, Kansas, i'd be like, Okay,

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 2>this makes sense, But we were in New Zealand.

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's crazy. I would also be jarred. Do you

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 3>So he he mentions, you know, you guys are chatting

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, I came right from like Columbia, I think,

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 3>he said. And then you're like, you ditched the weddings.

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I didn't go to the weddings, were you?

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I think I know the esswers. I just

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 3>want to clarify for people listening. Were you supposed to

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 3>go to those weddings with him?

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 2>So, you know, there was a free trip to Columbia

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 2>on the table at some point, and I had said,

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Matthew is a really good friend of mine. He needs

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 2>a little date. He wants to give me a free

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 2>trip to Columbia. Why not so I was supposed to

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 2>go to these weddings?

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, so totally.

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah plus one Okay, because he says he tells you

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that he loves you, and you're like, well, you could

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>have told me this a long time ago. So then

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>when he drops that bomb and then you kind of

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>put together like, oh wow, this is why he's here.

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 3>What goes through your mind?

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you were like, you could have told me

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>this years ago.

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I don't know. I was at that

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 2>point kind of questioning his intentions. I was like, why

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>are you here? You did have a chance to tell me,

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 2>like at any other point in time before right now?

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Why is it right now? So I think I was

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 2>really just trying to get into his mindset a little

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 2>bit more and kind of really understand why he took

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>this risk to fly all the way around the world

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 2>to New Zealand. Yeah. I was just so shocked.

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>When you say question his intentions, does he strike was?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he the type of guy that you think would

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<v Speaker 1>just like want to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, but you know, at the end

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>of the day, like you can never really know what

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 2>people's true intentions are. Sometimes, like the reality of it

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 2>is like we are on a TV show that sometimes

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 2>people go on to for other reasons than love. So

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean you gotta ask the questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yeah, I mean that's what I would be thinking.

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I like if it was an ex that

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I used to date and came back on the show

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, all of a sudden, like hey, I'm

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 1>in love with you, and I was like, what the

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>fuck are you talking about? What are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I would be thinking a million different options.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so crazy because like if you were just

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 3>on like a vacation in New Zealand with like some

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 3>friends and a guy that you were newly dating and

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.240
<v Speaker 3>you were like maybe getting serious with, It's like, would

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 3>he be flying his asset to New Zealand to declare

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 3>his love? That's probably why you're like.

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>It feels yeah, but but but then again, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like after the vacation she's going to be engaged.

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<v Speaker 3>I can totally sympathize with why, Like it's a the

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 3>pressure's on, right, He's thinking, oh my god, there's a

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.439
<v Speaker 3>good chance in a month she's engaged and I'm never

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna have the chance to say this. But it's just

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 3>so funny how this environment affects people outside of it

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 3>so drastically as well, Like Matthew has nothing to do

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 3>with this experience when you're on it, and then all

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden he's in New Zealand professing his love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the weirdest part. Was like I'm kind

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 2>of in this new world now and it's my world,

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 2>and then like someone from my past comes into this

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 2>world and it's like a sense of familiarity almost, so

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like a sense of comfort having somebody there that

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of knew me.

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 3>I was like, whoa, I think we've seen that in

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 3>past shows, Like I would argue, like watching Blake Moyn's

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Going Katie Thurston season, like there's comfort in that even

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 3>of like you've been here before, like you know this

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 3>world as well, and like having been on the show,

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 3>you are very isolated and you're you're dating all these guys,

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 3>but you're still getting to know them. So like seeing

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 3>a familiar face I can totally sympathize with even if

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:42.760
<v Speaker 3>you left to go film the show on friendship terms

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 3>with this guy. There is that excitement about seeing him

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 3>of like, I know you and I feel comfortable with you.

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:51.879
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely, all.

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Right, Jem, before we let you leave, we're gonna play

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a quick game. You ready wrap a fire?

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it, all right?

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Of your guy? Who's the funniest, Pete Davidson, Devin, who's

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<v Speaker 1>the shyest.

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Johan?

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Who made you the most nervous?

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh Sam?

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Who dressed the best?

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Grant?

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Who matched your intelligence level the best? I would not

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>answer that.

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 3>It's like no one, They're all stupid.

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna stick with that nobody.

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Because of your journey overall, what piece of advice ended

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:51.720
<v Speaker 1>up being the most useful.

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 2>It was a piece of advice that one of my

0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>best friends gave me in a letter that she wrote

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 2>me before I left the show, and I was reading

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 2>it every now and then, and it was Matthew, No,

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:14.240
<v Speaker 2>it was she wrote something like, she she's she is married,

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 2>so she was giving me advice and she's liked, you

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 2>want to find someone who is going to think you're

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>the funniest girl in the room no matter what. And

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 2>to me, what that really meant was find someone who

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 2>intentionally is always going to make you feel celebrated no

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 2>matter what, Like even if I make the like the

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 2>dumbest show ever, give me a pity laugh, you know

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.280
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? And so for me, it goes beyond

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 2>even a joke and it's more just partner who's thoughtful.

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. That's good advice.

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite group date now we've seen so far?

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, the rugby date was really fun.

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 3>You were funny on that date. You had me laughing

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 3>because Jesse is like such a professional, because that's what

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 3>he does for a living. Is like he's a sports

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 3>sports announcer. Is that the term sportscaster?

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Sportscaster?

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and else he would he would like do his

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 3>whole like professional spiel at the end, at the end,

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 3>be like yay, I was in.

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 2>All just watching him do this thing.

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 3>And then I'd be like, yeah, oh my god, yeah

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 3>what he said.

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite one on one activity thus.

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Far, Rety? The helicopter ride over the twelve Apostles was

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 2>absolutely like stunning. I've never seen anything like it before.

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 2>That was really incredible.

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>What episode were you most excited to watch back?

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Episode four?

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>What moment thus far has been the most fun to

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>watch back.

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 2>The stripping jig.

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:55.919
<v Speaker 3>That was a fun date.

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>And to end this off, and also I have one

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>more question after this that I want to ask and

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to end this off, if you could describe your season

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>in one word, what would it be?

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Adventurous?

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 3>You know what's so funny is every guy's come on

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 3>here and described it as like toxic, tumultuous, like chaotic,

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 3>like what it's all toxic? But like the inn it's

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 3>all been like really like intense, like ferocious. Yeah, like

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 3>this intense verbiage being used, but like you wouldn't know

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 3>because it's all the male drama that you're not seeing.

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 3>So when Joe askedid, I'm like, it's gonna be so

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 3>funny to hear your answer because it's gonna be so

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 3>different than like all.

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 2>The cast romantic and they're all like insane.

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 3>They're like detrimental. What do you think of the phrase?

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 3>Is this something that you came up with? The what

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 3>do they keep saying?

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Thing?

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:56.839
<v Speaker 3>But the main thing, the main thing.

0:39:58.200 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that was the thing until I watched

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 2>the show that Okay, the main thing is the main thing.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Once you once you finally you wrap the season, you're

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>done filming. How fast do you then go? Do you

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.439
<v Speaker 1>go look at all these guys instagrams or or their

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>social media accounts are like, let me who was this guy?

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Who did I cut?

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie to you. Absolutely, I stalked every

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 2>single one of them.

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely before we let you go. Last question, how

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 3>would you tease the rest of your season?

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I would say that there are a couple of turning

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 2>points for me as a as a person and as

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 2>someone who's dating somebody or people like I had a

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 2>turning point in terms of relationships and realizing what I

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 2>want and what I deserve.

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Amazing. I'm excited, can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Jen, Thank you so much for taking the time. We

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>know how busy you are. We're really enjoying watching your season.

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>It's very toxic. Yeah, thank you for coming on a

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>happy Hour.

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me. I love chatting with you guys.

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to have you back when we can do

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 3>a full reflection on this season because we're only on

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 3>episode four and so much has happened, and I just

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:24.399
<v Speaker 3>know there's so much more to come. But if you're

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.560
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0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.799
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