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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. What is a Christian whistle blower? Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: actually it started. I think somebody in your show made

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Speaker 1: a derogatory reference to me being a traitor like Edward

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Speaker 1: Snowden of the New Testament. I thought, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I like that the Christian whistle blower, And basically it's

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Speaker 1: somebody that was in Christianity and like mister Snowden, saw

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Speaker 1: some things that he didn't think were right, some things

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Speaker 1: that people need to know about. And that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what I am, a person giving everybody all the deep,

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Speaker 1: all the inside information, shining a light in the dark

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Speaker 1: corners of orthodoxy, so we can all have all the

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Speaker 1: cards on the table before I make our decisions in

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Speaker 1: matters of faith, which really kind of more important than

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Speaker 1: life and death, isn't it? Itsurs And it doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you're a nonbeliever by any means, does it? You know? George,

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Speaker 1: Back when I was a Christian pastor for twenty years,

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Speaker 1: a Bible college graduate, and where I am today, I

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Speaker 1: would say I'm much more spiritual and I'm living much

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Speaker 1: more in line with the words and teachings of the

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Speaker 1: people of the man that people would call Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. How did someone involved in this

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Speaker 1: kind of work end up investigating UFOs, extraterrestrials and entities

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Speaker 1: like that. It sounds like a made up answer, but

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Speaker 1: the truth of it is, and we've talked about this

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Speaker 1: on this show before, that the New Testament is absolutely

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Speaker 1: loaded with ufo et and alien imagery, and even more shockingly,

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Speaker 1: almost one hundred percent of it in the New Testament

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Speaker 1: is tied to the great events in the life of

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Speaker 1: the man we call Jesus. Explain a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: because I think this is as fascinating as it can get. Why, well,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, George, and if you just take

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Speaker 1: the biggest events in the life of Jesus, we'll just

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Speaker 1: talk about the birth of Christ. If you look at

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Speaker 1: the Birth of Christ, we read all these stories, we

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Speaker 1: hear these stories, but if we get into the actual

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Speaker 1: Greek language of the New Testament, we find that the

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Speaker 1: shepherds were frozen and encased in blinding columns of light

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Speaker 1: and were made immovable when they saw those angels. When

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Speaker 1: you go to the resurrection, or excuse me, the crucifixion,

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Speaker 1: you see that Jesus was hanging on the cross, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden the sun was blocked out for

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Speaker 1: several hours, right during the middle of the day, and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the sun shows up again.

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Speaker 1: And if we look at the text, and you shared

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Speaker 1: this with me on one of the other shows before

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Speaker 1: the Fatima story, it looked very much like it was

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Speaker 1: a large ufo that was blocking out that sun, and

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Speaker 1: Jesus expected to be honest, that's why he cried out,

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Speaker 1: why would you left me here? So that's just a

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Speaker 1: couple of tidbits, George, And it's a big, long trail

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Speaker 1: and fifteen books worth of information and lots of great

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Speaker 1: shows on this channel. What do you think of evil entities, Jeffrey, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a great question. I think that a lot. And

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Speaker 1: when I say, I think it's from there'll be fifty

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Speaker 1: seven this year, George. And that makes forty years of

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Speaker 1: studying this. That's a long time. It is a long time.

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Speaker 1: I don't look that old, but I am. I mean

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Speaker 1: the studying part was a long time, right, right, And

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Speaker 1: forty seven is not old if you're a tree. So

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Speaker 1: I keep telling myself that that's right. But as far

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Speaker 1: as evil entities go. There are evil entities, but I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that most of the evil entities that we encounter

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Speaker 1: unbalanced energy, And like salmon, this energy will swim around

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Speaker 1: And what looks like a scary, horrible demon is really

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Speaker 1: get to this point. That's a great question, George, and

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Speaker 1: one of the one of the shortcomings I have as

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Speaker 1: I spend so much time studying my own material. I've

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Speaker 1: got over twenty five hundred videos on the Christian Whistleblower channel,

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Speaker 1: and that's a lot of study, get a chance to

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Speaker 1: really look at a lot of things. But I've got

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Speaker 1: some great friends, and one of them is a man

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Speaker 1: good man, wonderful guy, wonderful researcher, and he kind of

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Speaker 1: put a bug in my ear several months ago, and

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about ourselves and researching, and there's a

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Speaker 1: growing belief, George, within the whole genre here, considering the

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Speaker 1: possibility that there's a universal law governing the whole universe

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Speaker 1: a growing belief, George, that it's actually being restricted to

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Speaker 1: its home planet. So malevolent ets must stay home and

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Speaker 1: they can't go out and bother other people. Interesting now, yet,

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Speaker 1: yet we hear so many cases of abductions and strange

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Speaker 1: things happening. Who's doing that? That becomes the you know,

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Speaker 1: the sixty four thousand dollar question. You know, I've talked

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Speaker 1: and lots and lots of people just like us tell

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Speaker 1: that we're identifying as et, well, what if they're enter terrestrials.

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Speaker 1: They could be doing man which is a malevolent act,

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Speaker 1: because they're from here. That's a good point. Why do

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard that that. Oh, that's a new twist.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a good point too, Jeffrey. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: sure is. So what's your next work, what's your next

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Speaker 1: Do you think Jesus was an extraterrestrial? Well, George, all

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Speaker 1: I know is that Jesus said, I am not of

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Speaker 1: Bible says that the gods, it says Elheim and Genesis

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Speaker 1: only get anybody's anybody's dander up. But as they came here,

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Speaker 1: it created the heavens and created the earth. And George,

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Speaker 1: I'm not that smart, but if you come and create

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Speaker 1: you probably weren't from that heaven or that earth. So

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