1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: On the beginning during an end of COVID Moderni's CEO 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Stefan Banzel gave us great, great leadership. We know that 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: is an incredible program the University of Minnesota Biological Engineering. Stefan, 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: I want to go to one of the great people 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: we lost this year, which was a singer songwriter, Jimmy Buffett. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: He died a skin cancer. What are you going to 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: do about skin cancer? Every listener, every viewer, it's an 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: unspoken fear. 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Well, good morning, and thank you for having me today. 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: And you're right. Today is a huge day of hope 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: for cancer patient in generl and for melanoma patient first. 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Skin cancer is a scary thing. And what we are 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: doing at Moderonna is wh're using our technology to develop 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: individualized treatment where we make a different chemical drug for 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: different patients. Everybody gets a different drug customized to the 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: DNA of VA cancer cell. 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: And the data are striking. 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: We compared our drug to the best drug available to 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: the keythedra from mark, a checkpoint inhibitor, and the two 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: year data that we shared a year ago showed forty 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: four percent improvement of free survival of people on this Today. 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: We don't seeing the three year survival is now at 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: forty nine percent. It's already one in two people if 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: you think about it, that are surviving as us the 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: best drug available today to the right. We still have 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: a lot of ideas scientifically manufacturing wise on how we 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: think we can even improve that, and so we are 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: rushing this into a phase three. The phase three is 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: recruiting very quickly, but we're also at the same time 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: because the data is so strong. You know, there's around 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: three thousand people who died of skin can supper year 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: around the world. We're also wanting to talk to regulators 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: to see eaither path for accelerated proboard because the safety 34 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: profile of toxicity is very similar to that drug kit 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: you drive along, and so you have a very interesting 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: risky world opportunity you have for patients which is one 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: in two chants to make it with our drug right 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: out of three. 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: You mentioned Steffan merk Or. I think of Bristol Myers 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: in their commitment to cancer therapy is over decades and decades. 41 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Can you do this by going alone or by definition 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: to someone with your huge triumph in COVID, do you 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: need to merge in joint venture in some form with 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: a bigger platform. 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: Yes, actually we are partnered with Merk. 46 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: So what is interesting about this study that we are 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: sharing today is we compare two populations. One population gets 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: the Merk drug and the ogre propati get the Merk 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: drug and as an intramuscill also just injected in your 50 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: arm or product that is customized. 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: Individualized for them. 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: And that's why you see the big difference of one 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: in two people surviving just use the Merk jraugglon. So 54 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: when a partner with Merk commercially clinically some clinical studies, 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: modern A team is doing some clinical studies, Milk team 56 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: is doing well. So not on Monday was starting. We 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 2: belong to study. As you know, lung is a big 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: killer in cancer. Fortunately we believe that all technology will 59 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: also have big impact on lung cancer. So very excited 60 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: and we are going after many more cancers, starting more studies. 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four. 62 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: Stephan Moderna got a huge boost from the COVID vaccine. 63 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: We saw that in the share price that it arose 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: tremendously and then it struggled last year, shares lower by 65 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: almost thirty percent. This year, the shares a lower by 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: fifty six percent. How important is it to you to 67 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: get the cancer vaccine off the ground to offset the 68 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: lack of sales in some of the COVID vaccines that 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: we've seen with the latest in particular, Adviser. 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you think about what happened with the 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: company in twenty nineteen, we had no sas, and then 72 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: what happened with COVID. 73 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: We add in twenty one eighteen billion dollar our. 74 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: Sales, which is a lot compared to with and a 75 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: lot of pharmastical companies, and then in twenty twenty one 76 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: when eighteen billion dollar sales. So in twenty way two 77 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: and so if you look at it, we are moving 78 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: into anademic market. As we said in twenty four we 79 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: antipaid at least four. 80 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: Billion dollar sales. We're gaining market share. We're working on 81 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: going the market as well. 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: But in the US, if you look at it last year, 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: what thirty six percent market share. 84 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: In the last few weeks with fifty two to fifty. 85 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: Three percent market share, we're actually now the leader in 86 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: the US. And if you look in twenty four we're 87 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: launching URSV, which is a big opportunity. If you look 88 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: at what Pfizer and JESK reported in Q three the 89 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: IC market is around two x what analysts expected. So 90 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: it's a great face because we believe we're becoming the 91 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: best product on the market. We have more launches in 92 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: twenty five through full plus Covid combined and they can 93 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: sell as early as twenty five, so we're basically going 94 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: into else growth and the pipe plane is really exciting. 95 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: We have seven program in phase three, so modern it's 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: sort a one drug company. It's a platform and there's 97 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: not been platforms before us, so I think a lot 98 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: of people are still getting the head around what does 99 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: it look like. But if you look at the all 100 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: the drugs that are working, we have COVID working and 101 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: then ls BE working in phase three, and then flu 102 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: working in phase three, three out of free product in 103 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: a row with positive phase three. That doesn't happen in 104 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: pharmaceutical companies because we use old analog technology. We're using 105 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: an information technology, and so the pace at which we 106 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: will grow the company I think is going to be 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: quite unprecedented. 108 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 5: Well, let's talk about your sales team. Your chief commercial 109 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 5: officer is leaving as we understand, what are you planning 110 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 5: to do differently? 111 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: So actually what we've done is we decided with a 112 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: board and the team to actually take a layer out 113 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: because we said the property for twenty four to twenty 114 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: five is sales, and so now the region's report directly 115 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: into me. I spent the last two days with a 116 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: sales team only sweating what we're doing, detail by detail, 117 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: to grow the market, to gain more market share, and 118 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: to do a superb launch for OURSV. 119 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 3: I believe with ours you we're the best product. 120 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: The product of our competitors that are being used today 121 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: on the market are very cumbersome for pharmacists to prepare. 122 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: Our product is a profit syringe. We'll be the only 123 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: product in the market. Look at pharmacy retail. We have 124 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: even strikes because it's so hard for people in the 125 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: pharmacy to deal with all the lot of work during 126 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: the full season. So we're just working on all those 127 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: things to make sure we drive sales growth and we 128 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: accelerate ourselves. 129 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 5: Stephan, I wanted to finish on something quite eloicate. You 130 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 5: run quite a polarizing company, celebrated in many ways for 131 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 5: the tremendous innovation, but I think there's always going to 132 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 5: be a degree of resentment towards companies that benefited from 133 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 5: the policy that pushed people to take your products. Do 134 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 5: you think that's something you need to repair. 135 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: Look, there was an enemy, which was a virus, and 136 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: we worked tirelessly, seven days a week to. 137 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: Get the vaccine out. 138 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: It has been shown by several public health analyzes that 139 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: we saved millions of lives around the world. What policy 140 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: officially decided to do in different countries around the world 141 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: was not the company's decision. It was the company's decision 142 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: of governments. Our enemy was the virus. I think we 143 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: had a tremendous impact on lives, helped a lot of people, 144 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: help all of us to go back into the real 145 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: world in terms of kids going back to school, not 146 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: worrying about parents, not worrying about friends that have diseases. 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: We are now working on cancer and other things and 148 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: what this company is about. 149 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 5: Stephan, appreciate your update and looking forward to more the 150 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 5: same in the year to count. Stephan Panser there of 151 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 5: maternity