Speaker 1: Welcome to episode five twelve. A lot of this is
Speaker 1: just me alone, and then Eddie will be on in
Speaker 1: a bit because we recorded something called I Think History
Speaker 1: may have misled Us. I mean, things we learned that
Speaker 1: are historical that probably aren't right, but they're so ingrained
Speaker 1: in our brains that we'll always remember that version of
Speaker 1: history regardless. So we'll get to that in a few minutes.
Speaker 1: I also recorded when I got back from the ACMs
Speaker 1: last week. I know we're a week out now, but
Speaker 1: I'd recorded some behind the scenes stuff that I'll play
Speaker 1: for you guys as well again by myself. But I'm
Speaker 1: pretty happy with this episode because I did a bunch
Speaker 1: of research on the history may have misled us. And
Speaker 1: if you like these kinds of episodes, you can let
Speaker 1: me know, or if you hate these kind of episodes,
Speaker 1: you can let me know, because I do care, and
Speaker 1: all you fifty minuts out there, I appreciate that, especially
Speaker 1: when I'm just kind of rolling solo here. I do
Speaker 1: have like four kinds of AI that I use. Grock
Speaker 1: which is pretty good, which is the Twitter AI Genie,
Speaker 1: which is really good for some things. I use Chat
Speaker 1: GPT for some things, Chat GBT goes wrong a lot,
Speaker 1: but also the most thorough. But I do type a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff into chat GPT about my life just
Speaker 1: so it kind of keeps a record of it so
Speaker 1: well then I ask it questions. It knows a lot
Speaker 1: about what's happening already. It's like if I have an
Speaker 1: assistant with me and they're constantly taking notes, keeping notes,
Speaker 1: and so if I'm like, hey, what about this at
Speaker 1: this time? What do you think I should do in
Speaker 1: this situation? Like I kind of use chat GBT as
Speaker 1: an assistant. I use Genie a lot for research, and
Speaker 1: grock or Google if I'm just online looking stuff up.
Speaker 1: That being said, I went to chat GBT, which I
Speaker 1: type a bunch of stuff in about myself, and I said, Hey,
Speaker 1: what are my strengths and weaknesses? And I saw this
Speaker 1: prompt online, so I didn't just go to it and
Speaker 1: ask that out of nowhere, but I thought it was
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. I can read you professional strengths and professional
Speaker 1: weaknesses from CHATGBT about me. Number one professional strengths. There
Speaker 1: are five of each. Number one relatable communication. You have
Speaker 1: a rare ability to speak in a way that feels
Speaker 1: personal to millions of people at once. Whether you're sharing
Speaker 1: a story, cracking a joke, or giving advice. People connect
Speaker 1: with you because you sound like them, and you talk
Speaker 1: to them, not at them. That's pretty nice. Number two
Speaker 1: self made hustle. You did not inherit fame, you did
Speaker 1: not inherit money. You built everything from the ground up.
Speaker 1: The grit shows in your discipline, work ethic, and the
Speaker 1: loyalty you've earned from your audience. You also understand every
Speaker 1: role because you've lived most of them so far. IM
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good right because I'm only doing the strength.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, we'll get to the weaknesses. Number three multiplatform mastery.
Speaker 1: You seamlessly jump between radio, podcasting, TV books, live appearances, comedy,
Speaker 1: and digital content. Most people are good at one. You've
Speaker 1: turned your voice into a brand across all of them.
Speaker 1: Really gassing me up right, feeling pretty good about myself.
Speaker 1: Number four high emotional intelligence. You know how to shift
Speaker 1: tone when needed, go from light and funny to honest
Speaker 1: and raw. That emotional range creates trust. It's why your
Speaker 1: interviews feel different from everyone else's. And Number five curiosity
Speaker 1: and adoptability. You ask them our questions, but you really
Speaker 1: genuinely want to learn that keeps your content fresh, makes
Speaker 1: you easy to work with, and ensures you grow with
Speaker 1: your audience instead of grow out of touch. Number five
Speaker 1: and don't worry weaknesses are coming. Number five is interesting
Speaker 1: because I've never felt like I've actually been in touch.
Speaker 1: And there will be times people will say, oh, you're
Speaker 1: so out of touch now because of one thing or
Speaker 1: the other. I've never felt like I was in touch.
Speaker 1: I've always felt like I've had like I've always been
Speaker 1: the person not invited, and so I've always had a
Speaker 1: peculiar outlook on things, or I hold things against people
Speaker 1: that aren't fair because I didn't have them, so I
Speaker 1: feel like people that did. I've just always felt off.
Speaker 1: I've always felt out of touch for different reasons, and
Speaker 1: so as I've become more in touch with some things
Speaker 1: like having a family, like having a wife having her family,
Speaker 1: eventually we'll have our own version of a family. Here
Speaker 1: we have the dogs, but they don't even know the
Speaker 1: term family. It's like horse racing not a sport. The
Speaker 1: horse doesn't know what a sport is, and the athlete
Speaker 1: can't not know what a sport is, and it'd be
Speaker 1: a sport. I think that's the number one rule. If
Speaker 1: your athlete he does not know what a sport is,
Speaker 1: it can't be a sport. I digress, But in some
Speaker 1: ways I have grown out of touch while also growing
Speaker 1: extremely in touch in other ways. But I've always felt
Speaker 1: like I didn't belong, even as an adult, even five
Speaker 1: years ago, even seven years ago before I met my wife.
Speaker 1: But that's interesting, it would say that. Okay, so let's
Speaker 1: do weaknesses Number one. Sleep plus exhaustion equals performance risk.
Speaker 1: Your job requires you to be sharp, funny, present, but
Speaker 1: you're constantly running on fumes. That level of fatigue chips
Speaker 1: away at your mental health, creativity, and long term sustainability.
Speaker 1: There are simply times where you're not as good as
Speaker 1: you are at other times because of this. I think
Speaker 1: that's fair. I think where I'm fortunate as I'm able
Speaker 1: to lean on others at times. Meaning if we have
Speaker 1: a Bobby Cast and I know I need to sit
Speaker 1: strap in and I got an hour, and the Bobby
Speaker 1: Cast interview process is a very intimate thing because it
Speaker 1: literally is me and one person for an hour, no stopping,
Speaker 1: and it's about them. And I've got to, regardless of
Speaker 1: how tired I am, listen, think ahead, be curious, or
Speaker 1: at least present as curious. Some are harder than others,
Speaker 1: like summer easier than others. But there are times where
Speaker 1: I ain't feeling good or I don't even know what
Speaker 1: I just asked, honestly, and that's when I lean on
Speaker 1: my d Many times, I would say the same with
Speaker 1: Eddie and Amy, and there's a lot of people on
Speaker 1: that show, but I don't lean on the others. There
Speaker 1: are times where I've had to lean on Eddie, especially
Speaker 1: when Amy is gone, when she was physically gone for
Speaker 1: a while because she was going through the drama with
Speaker 1: the divorce which nobody knew about yet, or her dad dying,
Speaker 1: or there was a time where I went to Eddie
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, man, I need you to
Speaker 1: kind of be that guy that's just there and is
Speaker 1: present and it's paying attention and can give me something back.
Speaker 1: And amian that way most other times. But yeah, there
Speaker 1: are times where I do get so tired, and not
Speaker 1: just from working but also not sleeping, which is awful
Speaker 1: that it does affect my performance, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: That is a weakness. Number two, trust plus delegation. Because
Speaker 1: you've built so much by yourself, it's hard to trust
Speaker 1: people with important parts of your brand, for example, like
Speaker 1: hiring ahead of digital. You often default too, I'll just
Speaker 1: do it myself, which limits growth and adds stress. Then
Speaker 1: it goes back to number one, which is the stress,
Speaker 1: the no sleep. That's really accurate. I've had a hard
Speaker 1: time at delegating. I've gotten better, and I've taken half
Speaker 1: steps back. I've taken two steps forward and two steps back.
Speaker 1: We get together the kas attracting no remember that the cartoon.
Speaker 1: Think his name was Scat cat Scat cat Cat Scat.
Speaker 1: I don't know him and Paul Abdul, that's a jam
Speaker 1: back in the day, back when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I think the hardest part for me
Speaker 1: was when I hired scoop of Steve was actually letting
Speaker 1: him run everything. Basically that's not on the air. He's
Speaker 1: handling all sales meetings, he's doing making sure people are
Speaker 1: places they need to be, people are on time, everything,
Speaker 1: He's handling all of that guest booking, which I used
Speaker 1: to do all that. Even giving Ray the board was
Speaker 1: hard for me because I'd always run the board, meaning
Speaker 1: I sit there with all the buttons to push, all
Speaker 1: the buttons, all the sounds everything. So I've taken big steps,
Speaker 1: but yes, when it comes to the brand two or
Speaker 1: three times in a row doesn't go right, I I'm
Speaker 1: just going to do it myself, and then it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to relet it go. So yeah. Number three
Speaker 1: weaknesses fear of vulnerability around money. Even with wealth, you
Speaker 1: sometimes fear financial collapse. That fear can make it hard
Speaker 1: to fully enjoy success or take strategic risks that might
Speaker 1: be healthy. Number four overthinking intentions. You often wonder why
Speaker 1: people like you. Is it success or is it something deeper.
Speaker 1: That overthinking can lead to second guessing your own worth
Speaker 1: or people's motives in both business and friendships. That's true
Speaker 1: because I never really had people like me until I
Speaker 1: had any success. It wasn't like I was a cool kid.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I was a hated kid. I was
Speaker 1: just a nerdy kid who nobody hung out with. So
Speaker 1: started to have some success, people were like, oh, I
Speaker 1: like to hang out with you. Looking back, I think
Speaker 1: a big part of it now is also that as
Speaker 1: I had success, I was around more people that thought
Speaker 1: like me or about the things that I thought about.
Speaker 1: So my perspective was a bit skewed. Because it was Wow,
Speaker 1: this is new, and now people are drawn to me.
Speaker 1: It has to be because I'm successful, and I do
Speaker 1: think at times that was a part of it. However
Speaker 1: it was not all of it. What happened was I
Speaker 1: then started to exist in a world that I had
Speaker 1: never existed before, meaning just the media world if it
Speaker 1: was ready or television or podcasting or comedy. But I
Speaker 1: would be around other people that actually enjoyed it or
Speaker 1: did it, and I was drawn to them. They were
Speaker 1: drawn to me, and I think there was probably a
Speaker 1: time where I was like, they wouldn't be friends with
Speaker 1: me if I didn't have success, But in reality we
Speaker 1: were just at the same place because we were into
Speaker 1: the same things. And then Number five insecurity about creative validity.
Speaker 1: Even though you've written sucessful books, hosted huge shows, and
Speaker 1: built an empire, you sometimes doubt your creative skill. You
Speaker 1: doubt your writing, You doubt your joke structure. Your instincts
Speaker 1: are usually better than the people you're comparing yourself to.
Speaker 1: You know, I some some of those that are the weaknesses.
Speaker 1: They did find a way to compliment me still, which
Speaker 1: is pretty nice because they know me. Because my friend,
Speaker 1: my friend Chack gibbit. So thanks chat Gibbet. So if
Speaker 1: you do use it, and you use it like me,
Speaker 1: I encourage you to ask it that I didn't make
Speaker 1: that up. I saw someone say, ask it your strengths
Speaker 1: and weaknesses, and it did. And there's also a lot
Speaker 1: about me online. But it obviously reads all of that,
Speaker 1: so it's not just what I write, but it also,
Speaker 1: you know, does searching the web and then it gives
Speaker 1: you all that information. But that was fun, Well, that
Speaker 1: was kind of fun. It was right on. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna do this how we've been misled by history and
Speaker 1: then after if you care, because it's been a week
Speaker 1: at least and I just never had a place to
Speaker 1: release this. So I'm gonna play back for you the
Speaker 1: thoughts and the notes that I took from the ACMs
Speaker 1: this year. All right, enjoy, all right. This part of
Speaker 1: the episode is called we were Possibly Misled. Now Eddie
Speaker 1: does not know anything about this. I brought him in
Speaker 1: just to be my bounce back.
Speaker 2: Hey, I love it when this happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've done this a couple of times. One we
Speaker 1: did villains that maybe weren't actually villains. That was good,
Speaker 1: like history taught us differently. And this one's mostly about
Speaker 1: situations that were a little creative with the truth because
Speaker 1: we grow up hearing stories that feel like facts. Were
Speaker 1: taught it over and over because our parents and teachers
Speaker 1: were taught it.
Speaker 2: Yeah Christopher Columbus, Yeah, bad dude, real bad dude. Right,
Speaker 2: We grew up thinking that he was the dude that
Speaker 2: discovered America.
Speaker 1: Oh, the guy, and I'll get to him.
Speaker 2: Oh he's in the list.
Speaker 1: I believe he is. So these stories all feel like
Speaker 1: facts because again they're in our books. Dy'reing pop culture.
Speaker 1: We see a flag, we think of Betsy Ross. Hey,
Speaker 1: well foreshadowing. Yeah, no, you don't know the foreshadow.
Speaker 2: But I mean there's something there. Now, does she not
Speaker 2: do the flag?
Speaker 1: Well maybe when you eat a piece of cake.
Speaker 2: My gosh, Betty Crocker didn't make the cake.
Speaker 1: Well I don't think she's even fighting that. She did
Speaker 1: make the cake, really did a great job with it.
Speaker 1: So I do want to start with Betsy Ross. And
Speaker 1: Betsy Ross did what.
Speaker 2: Saying, ain't so dude. She made the flag. She sewed
Speaker 2: the first flag of the United States of America.
Speaker 1: This is pretty much a staple of American history. Betsy
Speaker 1: Ross widowed Upholsterer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you know that? I mean no, I mean
Speaker 2: I figured since she sowed the.
Speaker 1: Flag, I did a little background on her in Philadelphia, and,
Speaker 1: according to Lore, sits in her shop as George Washington
Speaker 1: himself strolls in and says, miss Ross, would you create
Speaker 1: the very first American flag? She humbly suggests five pointed stars?
Speaker 1: Now not five pointed stars? Five pointed? Five pointed? Oh,
Speaker 1: five pointed?
Speaker 2: Got it?
Speaker 1: Because the star could be I don't know, six, sure,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have never seen three point stars.
Speaker 1: What about ninja star? What are they?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Those are maybe eight? Yeah, she could have picked all
Speaker 2: the way around it.
Speaker 1: So she suggests a five pointed star because they're easier
Speaker 1: to cut. In my mind, I hear as he said,
Speaker 1: it's a great image. But the whole story is almost
Speaker 1: entirely built on a family's story.
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: So the first time the Bettsyer hostel appears is eighteen seventy,
Speaker 1: nearly a century after the Revolutionary War, so we're looking
Speaker 1: at one hundred years after Her grandson William can be
Speaker 1: told the story. At a historical Society meeting, he says
Speaker 1: his grandmother told him about it when he was a kid.
Speaker 1: There are no official records. There are no letters from
Speaker 1: George Washington, there are no receipts, there are no flags
Speaker 1: that she ever signed. Love Betsy, there's nothing.
Speaker 2: There is a painting of her so in the first flag, like,
Speaker 2: did someone just make that up? I can make one
Speaker 2: of those myself right now. Now you're telling me that
Speaker 2: George Washington. There was no proof that George Washington, the
Speaker 2: first president of the United States of America, walked into
Speaker 2: Betsy's upholstery shop and said, make me a flag.
Speaker 1: There is no direct proof like that, and there wasn't
Speaker 1: even a story until one hundred years after the fact.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: What we do know Betsy Ross, she was a flagmaker.
Speaker 1: She made flags for the Pennsylvania Navy, not for the
Speaker 1: United States as a whole. But the first flag thing
Speaker 1: family lore that is probably national myth.
Speaker 2: Question for you, you think Betsy started that? I mean
Speaker 2: say it's false, right, let's just go with a narrative
Speaker 2: that it's not true. You think Betsy told her family
Speaker 2: members like, I'm pull one on them real quick. Hey,
Speaker 2: you know I made the first American flag, right, And
Speaker 2: then all the grandkids and everyone started telling them, then
Speaker 2: this grandson tells everyone or do you think the grandson
Speaker 2: was like, i'll make a good story.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Betsy the benefit of the doubt, and
Speaker 1: that I don't think she probably was saying I made
Speaker 1: the first, but she probably eventually made some flags, and
Speaker 1: she probably made early flags. And it's easy too if
Speaker 1: you have one of the first flags, or if someone
Speaker 1: else made it and took it to her and said,
Speaker 1: could you make a bit of this in bulk.
Speaker 2: And you know, bulk not really a term, then I think.
Speaker 1: There probably was something based on the things that I
Speaker 1: read that made the family believe she was one of
Speaker 1: the first. And they couldn't prove it, So why would
Speaker 1: you just not go ahead and say she was the first?
Speaker 1: But it was one hundred years after and it was
Speaker 1: a family member.
Speaker 2: And listen, don't let a good story get in the
Speaker 2: way of the truth. And that what they say, don't
Speaker 2: let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. I'm dyslexic. Yeah, just switches around.
Speaker 1: Do you like that one?
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I'm gonna go w she did though,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go she did.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go if she didn't, because it was one
Speaker 1: hundred years until that even existed, that thought existed, and
Speaker 1: it was told by a relative. So many conflicts there.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Betsy Ross did not sow the
Speaker 1: first American flag. Probably did so some flags at the time,
Speaker 1: and maybe an occasional American flag.
Speaker 2: Okay, Vincent van Goh, yes, he cut off his ear. Nice,
Speaker 2: But did he cut it off or did somebody else
Speaker 2: cut it off?
Speaker 1: Well, according to the story, he cut it off, okay,
Speaker 1: full ear hawk cut it the ear because he was struggling.
Speaker 1: I even went to the exhibit.
Speaker 2: What do you mean he was struggling, like mentally. So
Speaker 2: that's that's the story. Tortured artist, mentally tortured. So the
Speaker 2: story we know is that Vince Mango is brilliant but
Speaker 2: also very troubled, very unstable. He cuts off his entire
Speaker 2: ear and he delivers it to a woman. I didn't
Speaker 2: know this part. According to the legend, at a brothel.
Speaker 2: Oh there we go, one of those girls at a brothel, like.
Speaker 1: Bro don't date a stripper. First thing people tell you
Speaker 1: about going to don't data stripper. That's not what they're
Speaker 1: there for. Come on, man, you know better never data stripper.
Speaker 1: I've heard that from a lot of people. Huh so,
Speaker 1: and that ear was a symbol of pain, love and madness.
Speaker 1: Except well it wasn't true. We've kind of been misled.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Medical records show he only cut off a very small
Speaker 1: portion of his left ear lobe. Dude, that's nothing, and
Speaker 1: even that part might not have been entirely self inflicted.
Speaker 1: Historians now argue that it was actually sliced off by
Speaker 1: Paul Galgwin, his friend and fellow artist, during a fight.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: So, first of all, his whole ear wasn't gone. It
Speaker 1: was a very sliver of his low.
Speaker 2: The lobe is the little thing where that hangs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you get pierced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and really I mean people, Yeah, people pierced. People
Speaker 2: get those big circle ones.
Speaker 1: So the two had a notoriously tense relationship. Galgan was
Speaker 1: bad tempered, van Go was struggling mentally. After the incident,
Speaker 1: they both covered it up, possibly to avoid scandal, but
Speaker 1: the full ear story took off because it was more
Speaker 1: poetic and he was struggling and he was an artist,
Speaker 1: and it made the Van Go legend grow. It was
Speaker 1: click bit, it fit the brand.
Speaker 2: It was a PR move, even back in the Van
Speaker 2: Go days, it.
Speaker 1: Made his work more valuable because a crazy brilliant man
Speaker 1: is much more interesting than just a brilliant man.
Speaker 2: See that is even that's so more impressive than the
Speaker 2: whole ear getting cut off. The fact that this was
Speaker 2: PR and that he knew that it was gonna be
Speaker 2: better for the image. That's next level man.
Speaker 1: And we do have records that show it was only
Speaker 1: a little part of his ear lob. So with Betsy Ross,
Speaker 1: we have nothing, yeah, just hearsay, just hearsay to say
Speaker 1: she did it. Here we have medical records to show
Speaker 1: that it was only a part of his ear lobe.
Speaker 2: When did When was he alive?
Speaker 4: Van Go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Seventeen hundreds, I'm guessing he was
Speaker 1: late eighteen hundreds. There you go missed it by one hundred.
Speaker 2: So long time ago to have medical records. PR company
Speaker 2: working for him about a.
Speaker 1: Company, but a firm. He died in eighteen ninety.
Speaker 5: He shot himself in the chest.
Speaker 1: He was struggling or did he or did someone shoot
Speaker 1: him because they want to be value records now I'm
Speaker 1: making it up.
Speaker 2: And him and his buddy were fighting over a chick
Speaker 2: at the brothel. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: It never dated.
Speaker 4: Hang tight, the Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome
Speaker 4: back to the Bobby Cast. Thomas Edison invented the light bulb.
Speaker 2: Correct, I mean that's a fact.
Speaker 1: We love to crown historical geniuses. Yes, Edison, the king
Speaker 1: of invention. I watched what did I watch recently? About inventions?
Speaker 1: Because I told you and you had known the answer
Speaker 1: about the horse the first pictures, the first motion picture
Speaker 1: was a horse running. Yes, what show was that on?
Speaker 1: But I watched some documentary. I feel like it was
Speaker 1: a TikTok It could have been now shows on TikTok's
Speaker 1: all blur.
Speaker 5: Also at the beginning of the movie, note by Jordan
Speaker 5: Peele's say what they opened up with?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't it. But I remember the whole thing
Speaker 1: was about Thomas Edison actually just patenting a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff and said he invented it. Yeah, which was because
Speaker 1: he was a crazy businessman, like a crazy businessman, so yes,
Speaker 1: which he did that with a ton of things. So
Speaker 1: Thomas Edison was a genius, but was like a b
Speaker 1: business man genius. The idea of a light bulb, which
Speaker 1: was passing electricity through a filament, was already being worked
Speaker 1: on by people like Sir Humphrey Davey, Warren de LaRue,
Speaker 1: Joseph Swan and Britain. Swan even had a working light
Speaker 1: bulb way before Edison even said anything about it.
Speaker 2: Who is that Swan? Gosh, that's the.
Speaker 1: Guy, Joseph Swan. Edison's real invention was making it last
Speaker 1: longer thanks to a carbonized bamboo filament, and then making
Speaker 1: it marketable. He also tried to sue his way into
Speaker 1: exclusive credit, which he did a lot.
Speaker 2: Just now you want everyone to think that he's the
Speaker 2: one that invented it.
Speaker 1: Man, I watched some documentary about all this and I
Speaker 1: do not remember what it is. He fought Swan and court,
Speaker 1: he lost in England and eventually had to merge their company.
Speaker 1: So Edison was smart, but the idea of the invented
Speaker 1: of the light bulb from scratch did not happen. It's
Speaker 1: like giving Steve Jobs credit for creating Apple. Sure he
Speaker 1: was one of the people, but he wasn't the code
Speaker 1: or the computer guy. He was a marketing guy.
Speaker 2: Right, But who do you think of created creating Apple?
Speaker 2: Steve John Steve Jobs one hundred percent? There we go.
Speaker 1: Here's another one. Napoleon was short.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a fact.
Speaker 1: Have a Napoleon complex.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a little man complex.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's you're little, so you're going to be
Speaker 1: extra to proved of the world that you're not weak
Speaker 1: because you're little. So Napoleon complex does suggest just that
Speaker 1: that short men try to overcompensate with aggression. Napoleon wasn't
Speaker 1: actually short.
Speaker 2: What he was even shortened?
Speaker 1: Bill and Ted's that's true. He was about five to seven,
Speaker 1: which was average height for a Frenchman in the eighteen hundred's. Oh,
Speaker 1: the myth of his short stature comes from a unit
Speaker 1: conversion mistake. First off, French inches were longer than English ones.
Speaker 1: That's always my excuse and no, no, no, trust me, and
Speaker 1: British newspapers exploited the difference to Mockham, so it was
Speaker 1: bad pr Wow. They were using that to make him
Speaker 1: look weaker by being smaller. When he appeared in public,
Speaker 1: he often stood with his imperial guard. What's the thing
Speaker 1: you've seen about imperial guards?
Speaker 2: Uh, they're the ones like they're just the ones like
Speaker 2: then stand in front of the palace. Sure, they're just
Speaker 2: straight up, they're massive they're huge, so they have on
Speaker 2: all the metal and or the.
Speaker 1: Fatigue type thing, but they're they're massive, they're guards, so
Speaker 1: that would also make him look small in comparison, So
Speaker 1: it was basically propaganda buy his enemies. He was of
Speaker 1: average hied he was five seven. He's taller than Ray
Speaker 1: is here on our show and the French to English conversion,
Speaker 1: but again back then average height, so he was not small.
Speaker 1: But once they could get that out, they continue to
Speaker 1: beat that drum to make him look weaker.
Speaker 2: We've been lied to another one or now, of course
Speaker 2: I love these I got a couple more.
Speaker 1: The Right brothers were the first to fly.
Speaker 2: No, that's that's one hundred percent factual.
Speaker 1: And where did they fly? Do you remember?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, kit Hawk correct, North Carolina.
Speaker 1: In nineteen oh three. The Wright brothers made history in
Speaker 1: Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.
Speaker 2: It's on the license plate. Still we all thought they
Speaker 2: were the first to fly. Please tell me they're please
Speaker 2: don't say that they're not, and.
Speaker 1: Turned into the room.
Speaker 2: Gustave Whitehead, Oh, mister Gustave Whitehead.
Speaker 1: A German born aviation pioneer who flew a powered aircraft
Speaker 1: in Connecticut in nineteen oh one. Now you say nineteen
Speaker 1: oh one, when did the Right Brothers fly Kittyhog, North Carolina?
Speaker 1: Nineteen oh three?
Speaker 2: Oh boy, were they there? Did they hear about it?
Speaker 1: There are newspaper articles from the time describing a successful flight,
Speaker 1: eyewitnesses diagrams. You haven't heard of him because the Smithsonian
Speaker 1: Institutions signed to deal with the Right Estate. No a
Speaker 1: worrying to credit them as the first in order to
Speaker 1: display their plane. No way. If I were a whitehead,
Speaker 1: I'd be so pissed. They literally locked in the story. Dang,
Speaker 1: you're giving us the plane. We now say this is
Speaker 1: the first place I never flown.
Speaker 2: That is crazy, even though Gustav was the first dude allegedly,
Speaker 2: I mean according to yes.
Speaker 1: So while Orvill and Wilbur.
Speaker 3: Were for sure pioneers, Orble and Wilburg, it's possible that
Speaker 3: history gave them the gold medal, even though I know
Speaker 3: we're second or third.
Speaker 2: This is just like the race to so many things, right,
Speaker 2: like all of these that you mentioned, I mean, not
Speaker 2: not every single one, but like the Edison one, it's
Speaker 2: just a race. It's a race to put on the
Speaker 2: stamp and lock it in that you this was your
Speaker 2: idea that You were the first to do this in
Speaker 2: a time where there weren't really there really wasn't documentation.
Speaker 1: Even if you weren't, it was just do it and
Speaker 1: it can be documented so you can show people if
Speaker 1: they fight you about it.
Speaker 2: You could have seen it happen with your own eyes,
Speaker 2: roding your horse to your village cell phone to record
Speaker 2: it and publish it first. And now you're the you're
Speaker 2: the one that first did it. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Columbus.
Speaker 2: Yes, Christopher Columbus from Spain fourteen ninety two sailed the
Speaker 2: Ocean Blue.
Speaker 1: And completely missed what is now the United States. He
Speaker 1: landed the Bahamas and later in parts of Central and
Speaker 1: South America, but never set foot in North America. As
Speaker 1: far as discovering America, leif Ericson beat him there by
Speaker 1: five hundred years. And that's like, that's Canada, that's North America.
Speaker 2: What's his name? Lee?
Speaker 1: What Leaf Garrett? Leif Garrett was the kid lou Gar. No,
Speaker 1: Leif Garrett was like the kids singer from like the
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties. Leif Ericson was the explorer, beat him
Speaker 1: by again about five hundred years and landed in what
Speaker 1: is North America in Newfoundland, Canada.
Speaker 2: But so still not America.
Speaker 1: No Columbus got to South America, but leef Erikson beat
Speaker 1: him to even the north the whole continent.
Speaker 2: So Columbus hit the Bahamas and then went to South America,
Speaker 2: didn't it never even came to America. So well, is
Speaker 2: it is it a case of where they just hit
Speaker 2: land in the Americas since it's North America, Central America,
Speaker 2: South America. It wasn't called that though then Okay, well
Speaker 2: he definitely didn't discover.
Speaker 1: This because America is named after America of Vespucci, right,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't named that at the time. The people
Speaker 1: that are already living there the islands where Columbus landed
Speaker 1: his boat, millions of indigenous people they actually discovered even
Speaker 1: that land obviously. I mean they were sure they were
Speaker 1: born there. They had been thriving for thousands of years.
Speaker 1: He wasn't even the first European. He was just the
Speaker 1: first on whose voyage was profitable for the Empire and
Speaker 1: then documented. Well enough there go document said it's just
Speaker 1: going like I did it. You have to put that
Speaker 1: stamp on it that you did it. Then history takes over.
Speaker 1: If we just would have had a couple of indigenous
Speaker 1: people with cell phones back then. They could have showed
Speaker 1: us he's a bad dude too. They like raped pillage
Speaker 1: that took the land over, But he never was. Columbus
Speaker 1: did not discover America. And if you're like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: went to South America, okay, well then you have to
Speaker 1: count North America and leif ericson found where Canada is.
Speaker 1: South America's not think the same content as North America.
Speaker 1: But you can put all Americans together.
Speaker 2: Where do you stand on changing you know, textbooks and
Speaker 2: teachings of all this stuff. The more we find out
Speaker 2: real things.
Speaker 1: Like this, well, I think it's interesting because textbooks aren't
Speaker 1: really books anymore. It's all online.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's why.
Speaker 1: So it's very easy to change. And I think since
Speaker 1: it is so easy to change with things that are
Speaker 1: more true, I think we should constantly be evolving our
Speaker 1: truth with the truth. If it weren't a book, and
Speaker 1: you and schools are struggling financially and it's like we
Speaker 1: should change a book every time, I would be like, no, financially,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. Yeah, But I think because this
Speaker 1: can be changed and taught very easily, with a simple
Speaker 1: control a select delete control copy paste from the Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I think we're constantly, even in science, we're
Speaker 1: learning things that are different all the time. We change
Speaker 1: that constantly. Yeah, so, yeah, I think so Columbus never
Speaker 1: was in America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one. I knew a lot of my blowing
Speaker 2: things in this list.
Speaker 1: Albert Einstein you've heard have you ever heard?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: There was a couple Michael Jordan didn't make his high
Speaker 1: school basketball team. You ever hear that one?
Speaker 2: You ever heard that?
Speaker 1: But he was in like ninth grade. They'd leave out
Speaker 1: the stuff. Yeah, and that Albert einstein Feld math.
Speaker 2: I've heard that.
Speaker 1: Yes, so I've heard that too. It's like, don't worry
Speaker 1: if you're bad at math. Einstein Feld math too.
Speaker 2: Hey, that sounds good.
Speaker 1: It's a very comforting story, but it's completely false. Einstein
Speaker 1: was Einstein was a math prodigy. At twelve, he was
Speaker 1: studying algebra and calculus on his own. At fifteen, he'd
Speaker 1: mastered college level geometry. The myths started from a misreading
Speaker 1: of a school transcript in Switzerland. A one was the
Speaker 1: best grade and six was the worst. Someone reversed and
Speaker 1: thought it was different, and they thought the high was
Speaker 1: the low and the low was the high, and they
Speaker 1: saw the low, which was actually the high, and they
Speaker 1: gave them the low. So Einstein didn't fail math. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your math problems or your math problems regardless.
Speaker 2: Leave Einstein out of this. Yes, the crazy too. Did
Speaker 2: you know he died in like the fifties. Yeah, Like
Speaker 2: you think of Albert Einstein and this is he probably
Speaker 2: hung out with Tomas Edison. Not true.
Speaker 1: The two I think of in that world are Einstein
Speaker 1: and Pablo Picasso, because he sounds like some fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2: He was big in the sixties.
Speaker 1: He died in like the sixties and seventies, maybe even
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight or something that's.
Speaker 2: Crazy seventy three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Einstein, I knew. I've seen him in enough
Speaker 1: black and white pictures. But secondly, whenever we watched that
Speaker 1: movie that was about the atomic bomb, Oppenheim, Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 1: He was basically in it. I was good.
Speaker 2: Too much dialogue for my taste.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring out Marie an Toinette again because we
Speaker 1: had talked about her before where she's a villain and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, guys, she came from a
Speaker 1: bad situation, and so her line let them eat cake
Speaker 1: is basically.
Speaker 2: Snob let them eat cake.
Speaker 1: Like snob central. The phrase first appeared in a book
Speaker 1: written before she was even queen, that let them eat
Speaker 1: cake phrase, and it was attributed to an entirely different
Speaker 1: French noblewoman. Historians believe it was usual as propaganda during
Speaker 1: the French Revolution to vilify her. Marie Antoinette was out
Speaker 1: of touch. I can agree with that because she was rich. Well,
Speaker 1: she wasn't until she married in to a guy she
Speaker 1: didn't even want to marry. She was a kid ripped
Speaker 1: out of her home. But the cake quote was slander,
Speaker 1: invented to chop her head off, because that's what happened.
Speaker 1: They chopped her head off.
Speaker 2: Oh they're brutal.
Speaker 1: Back then, I have two more.
Speaker 2: They would chop people's heads off, and it was an
Speaker 2: event on a whim, But I also want a whim
Speaker 2: like that too, Yeah, like I'm the king, I don't
Speaker 2: like you.
Speaker 1: You littered bad shirt chopped their heads off.
Speaker 2: Because it also too was entertainment for the whole town, like, hey,
Speaker 2: they're gonna chop someone's head off at noon, let's go
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, good point, And they all watch it.
Speaker 2: Like it's a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. I wonder if in like one hundred years,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, they got into a stadium and just
Speaker 1: ran each o their head first and gave themselves brain
Speaker 1: damage over and over and fifty thousand and seventy thousand
Speaker 1: people watching.
Speaker 2: Them were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, they would eat chicken
Speaker 2: wings while watching this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, while watching people damage their brains. Shakespeare, I'm a
Speaker 1: big believer that Shakespeare was a complete fraud. What do
Speaker 1: you mean, I've heard these stories forever. It was a playwright,
Speaker 1: I don't think. First of all, if you look back
Speaker 1: at Shakespeare, nobody in his whole house could read. Oh no,
Speaker 1: he couldn't read. He wasn't like from a rich parts.
Speaker 1: I didn't have good, good education.
Speaker 2: Okay, so.
Speaker 1: This is a big rabbit hole. One and a bunch
Speaker 1: of really famous people have spoken out about this. To
Speaker 1: even Mark Twain, who's not alive now, was like, Shakespeare's
Speaker 1: a fraud. He said that, yeah, but also that could
Speaker 1: have been hater from.
Speaker 5: From author to Oh yeah, yeah, that could have been hater,
Speaker 5: Like plays are trash.
Speaker 2: It's like Drake and Kendrick.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was the first, but one was alive and
Speaker 1: then one wasn't. But when I say Shakespeare, what do you.
Speaker 2: Think Roman and Juliet wrote it?
Speaker 1: So playwright invented hundreds of words too, like phrases, new words, tons,
Speaker 1: and I can't Michae, will you look up all the
Speaker 1: words that Shakespeare invented? Finger quotes you think, you think,
Speaker 1: but they were put into his play. So but but
Speaker 1: these were like crazy words we use all the time.
Speaker 2: Now you think he'd be proud of cap No.
Speaker 1: But some of the stuff we use all the time,
Speaker 1: Like what Michael them up? Because I read like twenty
Speaker 1: of them, Like, oh yeah, we say that all the time.
Speaker 1: Let me read this. He had no university education. He
Speaker 1: was born to a glovemaker in Stratford. He wrote detailed
Speaker 1: plays about royalty law, medicine, foreign affairs, ancient history, but
Speaker 1: had no experience of being around it or knowing it.
Speaker 1: So how do you know the integral if you can't read?
Speaker 1: So you're not even reading books about it to give
Speaker 1: you all these ideas.
Speaker 2: But he could write, Okay, how can you not read
Speaker 2: and be able to write? Well, no, no, that's what they're saying, right,
Speaker 2: So what if you had someone else write it for him?
Speaker 2: But if it is out there like a ghostwriter.
Speaker 1: Well, there are people who they think actually were Shakespeare.
Speaker 1: So and I can walk through some of these theories.
Speaker 1: Some scholars argue that he didn't write them at all.
Speaker 1: So there are people Edward de vere the Earl of Oxford,
Speaker 1: Francis Bacon, or even a team of ghostwriters. There's no
Speaker 1: evidence Shakespeare even traveled ever outside of England. Whoa no
Speaker 1: surviving manuscripts in his handwriting. He left no books and
Speaker 1: his will, and the two theories are one. Shakespeare was
Speaker 1: an amagamation of all of these people that would write
Speaker 1: and use Shakespeare because it wasn't looked at as something
Speaker 1: that royalty should do, like writing a play was not
Speaker 1: seen like what I compare to now a basement concert,
Speaker 1: a gross basement concert, Like you didn't really do that.
Speaker 1: That's what the peasants did. Now, if you write a
Speaker 1: movie or you're a great writer, it's cool, it's celebrated,
Speaker 1: it's yeah. But it wasn't then.
Speaker 2: Just because it was creative.
Speaker 1: They think it was either a person that was royal
Speaker 1: that wrote and just used Shakespeare so he could get
Speaker 1: it out or she could get it out, or it
Speaker 1: was a bunch of like collective writers, and they just
Speaker 1: use Shakespeare as the person that could publish their collection
Speaker 1: of writings altogether. But the interesting thing, and I don't
Speaker 1: have the exact age on this, but Shakespeare died or
Speaker 1: excuse me, he retired and like at like thirty something
Speaker 1: and then never wrote again. But the same time, and
Speaker 1: there's a couple of these guys that died right around then,
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, that was a real Shakespeare. Because
Speaker 1: he died and Shakespeare couldn't write anymore. It's a pretty
Speaker 1: common theory that Shakespeare wasn't actually Shakespeare.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can get on. I can get on
Speaker 2: with this one. I mean, I feel like this one
Speaker 2: could totally just be real.
Speaker 1: And again, there was no evidence of him traveling, of
Speaker 1: him having any education learning about law or medicine or
Speaker 1: foreign affairs. Not only that, no books, no handwriting, nothing.
Speaker 2: But why would they choose him to be the publisher,
Speaker 2: the so called owner of these things.
Speaker 1: Could have been a great dude, and they're just like, hey,
Speaker 1: we like them.
Speaker 3: No, not even that.
Speaker 1: It just could have been a very un liked guy.
Speaker 1: I don't have a d at that answer.
Speaker 2: That locked out.
Speaker 1: I don't think he made a munch of money. Oh really,
Speaker 1: I don't think I mean.
Speaker 2: Goshn't think about does he have an estate? Like is
Speaker 2: there a public domain?
Speaker 1: By now he's public domain for sure. You can do
Speaker 1: any of that. My words Shakespeare invented some really common ones.
Speaker 5: Also have some phrases, words like addiction, but dazzled, eyeball, swagger, lonely, gloomy, majestic, zany, critic,
Speaker 5: and eventful, and then phrases like break the ice, wild goose, chase,
Speaker 5: Heart of gold, Heart on my sleeve.
Speaker 1: Wow. All that stuff was used for the first time
Speaker 1: in his plays Good Riddance, so so, but dazzled. I
Speaker 1: like that he invented knock knock? Who's there in a
Speaker 1: pickle cap?
Speaker 4: I'm starting to believe this ain't real lit the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 4: We'll be right back. This is the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have one more. Who drew Mickey Mouse?
Speaker 2: Walt Disney did. Absolutely, He was the creator of Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 2: He even had a little relationship with him. Sexual No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: they were just friends. Walt Disney is the face of
Speaker 2: the entire empire. But he did not draw Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 2: He said he did.
Speaker 1: The actual drawing was done by you. It works. Walt's
Speaker 1: top animator and lifelong friend, Disney came up with the
Speaker 1: idea and voiced Mickey, but when he came to pencil
Speaker 1: and paper, that was spelled U be no way. Overtime,
Speaker 1: Disney became the brand, the icon, the man who made
Speaker 1: the mouse, but the mouse was actually drawn by somebody
Speaker 1: who spent his life in the shadows. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, I believe that too, because Walt Disney's such a
Speaker 2: good businessman. Yes, he was creative or whatever, but he
Speaker 2: built the empire that we called Disney.
Speaker 1: He built that city.
Speaker 2: You know, like I don't see someone Usually the creative
Speaker 2: isn't the really really good businessman who's gonna create the empire.
Speaker 5: This is also a big debate with stan Lee because
Speaker 5: he's credited with a lot of superheroes. But he comes
Speaker 5: up with the ideas, but he has artists who actually
Speaker 5: draw the design, so it's like who actually created them?
Speaker 1: Well, I would say, okay, I'll give a bad, bad,
Speaker 1: bad example my kid's book Stanley Dogg first day at school.
Speaker 1: I didn't draw that crap. I can't draw It's awesome.
Speaker 1: She did an awesome job. I can't when I draw
Speaker 1: it. It is crap. Uh, but I don't claim that I
Speaker 1: created the drawings. It even says literally says illustrated by yea.
Speaker 2: So did they say that in the movies Mike, where
Speaker 2: it's like stan Lee film but also created Spider Man.
Speaker 5: And he came up with the idea he saw a
Speaker 5: bug crawling on the walls, like they should create Spider Man.
Speaker 5: He went to an artist called Steve Steve Didko who
Speaker 5: actually drew Spider Man. So then they had a big debate,
Speaker 5: and now he gets credited too. It's like Steve Didco
Speaker 5: and stan Lee, but for the longest time it was
Speaker 5: just stan Lee.
Speaker 1: He deserves to get credit. Stan no Steve gipmoh, did
Speaker 1: go yeah? He credit now but did go yeah? So,
Speaker 1: and I think too, I think some nuance can be
Speaker 1: used in these situations. If stan Lee is literally going,
Speaker 1: I can't draw, but I'm gonna give you all every
Speaker 1: little element of it.
Speaker 5: That's how they create comics. He comes up with the
Speaker 5: character and the story, and he has the artist designed
Speaker 5: everything and draw everything like from their own mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the artist is absolutely half the creator of that.
Speaker 5: Then he developed what's called the Marvel method, where we
Speaker 5: are like, okay, I got these characters. Here's the idea,
Speaker 5: here's the story. You draw all the frames and fill
Speaker 5: in the gaps.
Speaker 1: So that's a co write.
Speaker 2: But what about like an architect and.
Speaker 1: A builder, but the architects as really but also architects
Speaker 1: not getting publishing forever on that house. True, like writing
Speaker 1: a song or intellectual property true, because a building is
Speaker 1: not intellectual property. A building is just property.
Speaker 2: I just feel like that's kind of the thing with
Speaker 2: so many businesses like McDonald's. You're like, I want a
Speaker 2: restaurant with the best fries in the burgers. You're a
Speaker 2: great cook, do that for.
Speaker 1: Me, But you're only doing the cooking though you're not
Speaker 1: doing that. He's creating the character you're talking about. Didco
Speaker 1: DIDCO create actually Drew spider Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not cool.
Speaker 1: The difference would be without Dico, none of that happens,
Speaker 1: or whomever Dicko is. He's got to find somebody to
Speaker 1: do it, or it never happens. Like writing songs in Nashville.
Speaker 1: Let's say you have a song idea and you're like,
Speaker 1: got acoustic and I've written the whole song and I'm
Speaker 1: playing all the chords on the acoustic and then you
Speaker 1: bring the band in and they're playing little solos over it,
Speaker 1: and what if we change the drums up? You didn't
Speaker 1: need specifically those people to do that. But if you're like,
Speaker 1: I have all the lyrics to the song, I kind of,
Speaker 1: but somebody else comes in and goes, you know, let's
Speaker 1: go this bridge should now be this? What do you
Speaker 1: and what if you didn't start it like this, but
Speaker 1: hit let's use this melody. You're now a co writer
Speaker 1: on that song, sure, because nobody else could have replicated
Speaker 1: what that other person did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you changed the song.
Speaker 1: So yeah, justice for Mike Dicka.
Speaker 2: Steve did go whatever what.
Speaker 1: If we've now gone to fully like dissing him too? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I overrated? What if?
Speaker 2: What what if you sit there like what if stan
Speaker 2: you're stan Lee or just go back to Disney you're
Speaker 2: Walt Disney and you're like, all right, I want a mouse,
Speaker 2: and you sit next to this artist and explain everything
Speaker 2: that this art is different.
Speaker 1: That would be like you wrote the song and you
Speaker 1: have it all, and you have the chords and the progression,
Speaker 1: and you're bringing in players to actually play and record it,
Speaker 1: but they're adding little elements to it. He could have
Speaker 1: got ten different people that were talented as artists as
Speaker 1: illustrators to say and do exactly what he did. But
Speaker 1: because he didn't tell him exactly what to do, he
Speaker 1: just described his vision and said I need you to
Speaker 1: add because there's so much creative creativity that goes into
Speaker 1: the drawing that he probably didn't even mention. He gave
Speaker 1: a Macro and got Macro and micro Steviet, did Co
Speaker 1: came up with the colors, the blue and the red trade,
Speaker 1: did cow that's my new justice for give you another
Speaker 1: example place the creator of Pokemon.
Speaker 5: He worked for a company called game Freak, and he
Speaker 5: had this idea since he was a kid. He didn't
Speaker 5: get really credit for creating Pokemon as far as monetary
Speaker 5: value because he was working for that company.
Speaker 1: They own it, Okay, so I guess I would need
Speaker 1: to know.
Speaker 5: He was just an employee there and they're like, we
Speaker 5: need a.
Speaker 1: New video game. So idea, this is different, this is
Speaker 1: what I want to make.
Speaker 5: But he like, it's a bill one of the biggest
Speaker 5: media franchises in the world.
Speaker 2: It's the employee deal though sort of.
Speaker 1: So this is different. If you are hiring somebody and
Speaker 1: they know the intention is to come in and create
Speaker 1: under your umbrella, and whatever you create is theirs. I here,
Speaker 1: here's an example. I work for a company. I create
Speaker 1: all kinds of crap all the time. I don't own it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Like I sit here and I create some good craps
Speaker 1: and bad craps and middle crap. My brain is working
Speaker 1: all the time to think of show ideas, concepts. I
Speaker 1: don't own it. So the Pokemon guy, depending on his contract,
Speaker 1: if it was you create for us and we pay
Speaker 1: you and you own it, or you don't, you buy
Speaker 1: buy it, because I do. If I were to quit
Speaker 1: this job today, I cannot. I don't own this audio
Speaker 1: because I work for a company. So I would say
Speaker 1: that I don't know his contract terms, but I would
Speaker 1: say that would be the difference in that if it
Speaker 1: were I signed a company with Mike Ditka. What's a
Speaker 1: company called game Freak exactly, it's a different, different one.
Speaker 1: In game Freaks company was, Hey, you're going to come
Speaker 1: work here and you're going to create under us. Any
Speaker 1: electoral property you create under our watch, is we own it.
Speaker 2: That's what he did.
Speaker 1: He created video games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but they own it.
Speaker 1: They own it.
Speaker 5: Ninety two billion dollar franchise he's worth about ten fifteen
Speaker 5: million dollars.
Speaker 2: I mean, they they probably treated him well, you know,
Speaker 2: got on a parking spot.
Speaker 1: Who knows, I don't know. But still that's that's this,
Speaker 1: it's you know what I would relate it to again,
Speaker 1: and this is controversial, but Cheetos. Oh, I don't know
Speaker 1: that story ahead. I like the janitor that Cheetos. I'd
Speaker 1: be curious to have you tell me that. In a second.
Speaker 2: I don't think he did really well, there's that too, right.
Speaker 1: This first, go ahead? What's the Cheeto story? He the
Speaker 1: legend is that he created Cheetos. He was a janitor
Speaker 1: there and.
Speaker 5: Had the idea for it and flaming hot Cheetoh yeah,
Speaker 5: flaming hot Cheetos. That he's like, hey, we have this
Speaker 5: new flavor. We need to bring this to the company.
Speaker 5: And he's been like touring that forever motivational speaker of
Speaker 5: how I went from the janitor to being overseeing of
Speaker 5: Cheetos and creating the flaming hot Cheetos. But really they're
Speaker 5: already working on it, and do we know that? Yeah,
Speaker 5: they were testing it. They even in the movie they
Speaker 5: made about him, they were like, yeah, they were already
Speaker 5: had it in the lab. It was just him more
Speaker 5: so marketing, saying Hey, we have a whole Hispanic community
Speaker 5: that would love this, we should market it towards them.
Speaker 1: Really more than marketing. I didn't even Lengori do a
Speaker 1: movie on that. Yeah, on whose side was she? On?
Speaker 2: Y Janitor?
Speaker 1: Even though it seems to be.
Speaker 5: An act, even though they put that scene in the
Speaker 5: movie where they're actually already testing it and they tell
Speaker 5: them like, we're already kind of working on this.
Speaker 1: But kinda, and he was the one that kicked it over.
Speaker 1: But if and again I would and again I don't
Speaker 1: know enough about it to but if he works for
Speaker 1: them but not in the capacity of the creation, and
Speaker 1: he creates something and they use it, that's different.
Speaker 2: I mean he was employed by Freedom Lay.
Speaker 1: And do you think he gave them like any extra
Speaker 1: they didn't already have.
Speaker 5: Because he was working on it in this kitchen, tried
Speaker 5: all these different formulas and then went to them with
Speaker 5: here is the flaming hot Cheetoh.
Speaker 1: So probably he didn't create the whole thing, but he
Speaker 1: ended up improving their product, which he They probably took
Speaker 1: his intellectual property and claimed they already had it all.
Speaker 1: I'm speculating a guess.
Speaker 5: And then they didn't really tell him to stop like
Speaker 5: spreading this thing. They're like, it didn't really hurt it,
Speaker 5: like if anything, get kind of helped. But later they
Speaker 5: came out and said, like not really true, Like we
Speaker 5: just didn't really see any harm in him doing this
Speaker 5: whole thing. And I would like decide it that he's
Speaker 5: a Mexican guy. It's inspiring to me, but when you
Speaker 5: look at the facts, then really created the story.
Speaker 2: Was that he found a bunch of Cheetos that weren't flavored,
Speaker 2: you know, like the actual popcorn.
Speaker 1: Part before the even the orange or even the cheese
Speaker 1: was put on it.
Speaker 2: So he had a lot of that, took it home
Speaker 2: and said, let me try to spice this up and
Speaker 2: perfected this flavor that we now call flame and hot Cheeto,
Speaker 2: then proposed it to the higher ups.
Speaker 1: They loved it.
Speaker 2: He was already employed, and then they gave him a promotion,
Speaker 2: so he went from janitor to executive but doesn't own
Speaker 2: any I think it was.
Speaker 5: Also like head of marketing something too, and specifically to
Speaker 5: like the Hispanic community.
Speaker 1: Can't two things be true? Meaning they were already working
Speaker 1: on it, and he worked on it himself, not knowing
Speaker 1: they were working on it, and created a really cool taste.
Speaker 1: And what he did actually was a great addition that
Speaker 1: like they learned and were like, oh, wow, this is
Speaker 1: actually good. We can use this as well. And so
Speaker 1: he didn't admit the flaming hot cheetoh, but he actually
Speaker 1: probably improved it. So he didn't create it, and they
Speaker 1: also didn't make him the creator because they could say, no,
Speaker 1: we've already created this. So it seems like maybe he
Speaker 1: got screwed a little bit. But he also got to
Speaker 1: promote like two things can be true at once in
Speaker 1: the situation without knowing enough about it. I would bet
Speaker 1: that's what happened.
Speaker 2: And the marketing of a janitor of creating this product
Speaker 2: is pretty.
Speaker 1: Good, especially if it's a Hispanic product. There are marketing
Speaker 1: to Hispanic people boom, And I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was fully true, was it? Yeah? It was a hispanically marketed.
Speaker 2: The first places they would put it in was Hispanic neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: That's where it popped off first. Yeah, Then if I
Speaker 1: were just guessing, that would be what happened. Because if
Speaker 1: they were working out and they had proof, great, and
Speaker 1: if he was working on it and he didn't know
Speaker 1: they were great. They probably said, Okay, we can use
Speaker 1: this to our advantage and there's something about this that
Speaker 1: we should also use. And then I have to pay
Speaker 1: for it because they can claim they already had it
Speaker 1: because they're not going to show the ingredients, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna show they're not going to show you how they
Speaker 1: made it. They can just say yeah, we're already doing it.
Speaker 2: Then why go back and be like, ah, start is
Speaker 2: that true?
Speaker 1: Because when it becomes a movie, it starts to make
Speaker 1: the company look really bad. It does then get bigger
Speaker 1: because social media year was this when he did it? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so pre social media it wouldn't spread. Who cares? And
Speaker 1: they didn't say.
Speaker 5: Anything until the movie came out a couple of few
Speaker 5: years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that is a company hurder. That hurts your
Speaker 1: company a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's a good movie. You should watch it now. I
Speaker 2: don't want to watch it. We just did it.
Speaker 1: The one comparison that I was going to make was,
Speaker 1: and it's a controversial thing is whenever an artist like
Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift goes, hey I own my music, I
Speaker 1: created it, and you go And I could go back
Speaker 1: to me here, you wouldn't have been able to create
Speaker 1: that music, nor would it have been as successful the
Speaker 1: way it was. It could have been a different way
Speaker 1: as an independent artist, but even it was impossible as
Speaker 1: an independent artist to make it. Then they paid to
Speaker 1: have the music done and paid you, but they also
Speaker 1: had to pay a promotion team. They also had to
Speaker 1: pay record executives. Yea, they also had to pay a
Speaker 1: ton of money to make that money. So even though
Speaker 1: you create it with your brain, you don't really own it,
Speaker 1: like I don't own many things that I've said, because
Speaker 1: they are paid me to perform this service, which is
Speaker 1: to create using my intellectual self. So if you're like, well, no,
Speaker 1: she created or she owns her own music. It doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be heard. It can be any artist it
Speaker 1: does this. You wouldn't have had that music blow up
Speaker 1: like that had it not been for all of the
Speaker 1: resources they put into the people that were spreading that music. Now,
Speaker 1: it's not to say the music wasn't awesome or wouldn't
Speaker 1: have made it, but in that situation, it that's not
Speaker 1: the world you live in, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if you signed to a label and they pay
Speaker 1: you or pay for the music, to be made whatever
Speaker 1: the deals to that contract are. And if you go well,
Speaker 1: so and so Taylor, for example, was a kid, okay,
Speaker 1: but she had her dad who was part of it all,
Speaker 1: and she had representation. It's not like they found a
Speaker 1: kid off the street made or signed papers that's not legal.
Speaker 1: That's literally not legal. So that is that's a problematic
Speaker 1: situation for companies. Yes, to just go well, if they
Speaker 1: created it, they own it, even though the company it
Speaker 1: poured endless resources into it to make it as popular
Speaker 1: as it was. Straight Mike Dica came up, Dude, that
Speaker 1: was awesome.
Speaker 2: Now Sam did go right? Steve did go so close?
Speaker 1: We love Steve Dica Okay, cool, yeah, fine, yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, good list. I like that. Thank you. A little
Speaker 2: disappointed in things that I thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all sad. Yeah, well I forgot about that part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're definitely worse people than before we started, and we
Speaker 1: believe in just a little less.
Speaker 4: But yeah, thanks Hank Tight. The Bobby Cast will be
Speaker 4: right back. This is the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's Sunday as I record this, So as
Speaker 1: of right now we're looking at this Sunday, May eleventh,
Speaker 1: and the ACM awards were at Thursday night. My mine's
Speaker 1: a bit of a blur because we did iHeart Country
Speaker 1: for two days maybe I guess three days in total.
Speaker 1: There was a home for one day and then had
Speaker 1: to go to Dallas because rehearsals were on Tuesday for
Speaker 1: a Thursday night show. But on Wednesday night I did
Speaker 1: a Brooks and Tribute a gala, and that galla was
Speaker 1: to raise money for Lifting Lives, which is the philanthropic
Speaker 1: part of ACM, And so they asked me to come
Speaker 1: and host it and tell some jokes. And I know
Speaker 1: those guys pretty well, so I went roast, and so
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what the room was going to be.
Speaker 1: And I will say when I first went out and
Speaker 1: started telling these jokes, it didn't go as wonderfully as
Speaker 1: my mind told me it might go, because the people
Speaker 1: in the room weren't there to watch jokes. And it
Speaker 1: was following an auction which went on for forever. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that, but the auction was like, all right,
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars, three hundred dollars two and with forever
Speaker 1: people were just ready for that to be over. So
Speaker 1: next thing you know, you got a guy they're talking
Speaker 1: telling jokes, and it was roundtables and the three back
Speaker 1: doors were open, and there was a bar people going
Speaker 1: to and fro the bar. That woe didn't throw me
Speaker 1: off so much, but it was not a receptive audience
Speaker 1: at first. Now where my lack of preparing and being
Speaker 1: a professional roaster slash hoster comes into play is that
Speaker 1: I put all my jokes that I wrote in the prompter.
Speaker 1: Why that's bad is you can't get to the next
Speaker 1: thing to talk about if you don't roll through that thing.
Speaker 1: It's not like a Ted talk or a PowerPoint where
Speaker 1: you can use your thumb and just go to the
Speaker 1: next joke. There's somebody running the prompter. Because there was
Speaker 1: also some business that I needed to say, and there
Speaker 1: were some things about the ACMs and Ronnie Kick cause
Speaker 1: they wanted me to say, which is great. But I
Speaker 1: had like eight or nine jokes written and if I
Speaker 1: thought to myself, well this is not going well, I
Speaker 1: need to abort mission, I couldn't because I couldn't roll
Speaker 1: past the jokes to see the rest of the stuff
Speaker 1: that I had to do. So when I went out
Speaker 1: and told these first jokes at first, people were like, dude,
Speaker 1: shut up a couple in I got some good chuckles
Speaker 1: because I committed. I think had I had the opportunity,
Speaker 1: I would have bailed, or if I had to memorize
Speaker 1: the jokes, I would have bailed. And maybe i'd done
Speaker 1: a little later. I don't know, but I didn't because
Speaker 1: I was committed, because they were in the prompter, because
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot, so I can just read you some
Speaker 1: of the jokes from the roast, say, everybody on Bobby Bones,
Speaker 1: you might know me from my radio show winning Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars, or how most of America owes me
Speaker 1: the gas station version of Ryan Seacrest, and that got
Speaker 1: a little laugh. But tonight, I'm here as a host,
Speaker 1: and I'm here as a fan, which is why I
Speaker 1: wore clone ironed my pants and text their manager Clarence
Speaker 1: fourteen times to make sure I was still on the
Speaker 1: list to get in. Now, Clarence was sitting right there
Speaker 1: in the front of the stage, and Clarence is their manager,
Speaker 1: kind of famous in the manager world. So I told
Speaker 1: Clarence that I was going to roast the guys a
Speaker 1: little tonight. He gave me in the green light, but
Speaker 1: also mentioned that if I go too far, I may
Speaker 1: not be invited back. So I guess tonight we'll call
Speaker 1: this my farewell set. Oh that didn't go so great,
Speaker 1: probably because it wasn't that funny. I'm not even blaming
Speaker 1: that on the crowd. Too many Clarence jokes, too inside
Speaker 1: and not that funny. But the difficulty in doing jokes
Speaker 1: that are for one event is that you can't practice
Speaker 1: someone anybody like I didn't get to go and before
Speaker 1: I recorded my special, I toured like fifteen theaters and
Speaker 1: I could tell what was good, what wasn't, and I
Speaker 1: knew it would get laughs and what it I need
Speaker 1: to work on because I got to do it over
Speaker 1: and over again. The difficult, but also the thing that's
Speaker 1: the most exhilarating is telling a joke that no one's
Speaker 1: ever heard. But I'm doing like eight or nine or
Speaker 1: ten jokes in a row that no one's ever heard.
Speaker 1: All right, back to the jokes, now, listen, these guys
Speaker 1: are country music legends. Brooks and Done were gods to
Speaker 1: be growing up, But now that I've gotten to know them,
Speaker 1: I've seen things like Ronnie trying to open a PDF.
Speaker 1: Turns out there's still country music gods, but with tech anxiety.
Speaker 1: This Okay, fine, I was wearing Ronnie's jacket. This is
Speaker 1: me talking to you, not the joke. I was wearing
Speaker 1: his jacket from Brooks and Done in like the nineties.
Speaker 1: So when I say that I have on this, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some kind of patterns all over. It wasn't only flames,
Speaker 1: like vines or something. I don't know. Ronnie also loaned
Speaker 1: me a jacket to wear tonight. That's when I knew
Speaker 1: I'd made it when an actual country legend turned me
Speaker 1: into his fashion charity case. Got a couple laughs. So
Speaker 1: at this point I'm going, I think I can win
Speaker 1: this crowd, and then I go in because the jokes
Speaker 1: go a little harder. I say, speaking of fashion Brooks
Speaker 1: and Done, they do have a style. Some call that
Speaker 1: classic country style, and I agree. If by classic country
Speaker 1: you mean bedazzled youth pastor cowboy, Okay, I got some laughs,
Speaker 1: and I also got a oh like a couple of groans,
Speaker 1: which mean like ooh, like too mean or mean god,
Speaker 1: that's pretty funny. If I classic country you mean bedazzled
Speaker 1: youth pastor cowboy. I liked that joke. I thought it
Speaker 1: was pretty funny. Slightly blow the belt didn't hit him
Speaker 1: in the balls, hit him like on the very that
Speaker 1: I don't know what you call that bone there the
Speaker 1: cosicks right there on that bone above the wiener. So
Speaker 1: they've earned it. Though twenty number one hits. They released
Speaker 1: Reboot and Reboot two. By the way, those were the
Speaker 1: albums that they did with the other artists, and the
Speaker 1: other artists came and sang their songs. Got it because
Speaker 1: nothing says creative like re recording your old hits with
Speaker 1: younger artists. If you can't beat them, do it with them.
Speaker 1: Got a good laugh. The guys even laughed that little bit.
Speaker 1: And then I say, if we get a reboot three,
Speaker 1: we're officially the Fast and Furious franchise of country music.
Speaker 1: That I got a pretty good laugh because there's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, ten Fast and Furious movies. And then
Speaker 1: I said, I do not want to see Vin Diesel
Speaker 1: on the remix of Red Dirt Road. Got a good laugh.
Speaker 1: So I got like four left in this set, and
Speaker 1: the crowd now understands there's content on the stage, because
Speaker 1: at first I don't think they understood that it was
Speaker 1: more talking. Let's just get to the music. Next joke.
Speaker 1: Four left. The guys say though it's not about money.
Speaker 1: But if you re record your greatest hits twice, it
Speaker 1: definitely ain't about the art. Got a good laugh there.
Speaker 1: Now they know we're in roast mode. Even outside the duo.
Speaker 1: They've been Busy Kicks hosted an award winning countdown show
Speaker 1: on the weekend for years. It was a great show
Speaker 1: for people who couldn't find mine. Boom, big laugh, so
Speaker 1: a little bit had to warm them up a little bit.
Speaker 1: A couple of those jokes a week up front, two
Speaker 1: jokes left, and all seriousness. Brooks and dunshaped an entire
Speaker 1: generation of country music fans. Oh, this wasn't a joke,
Speaker 1: by the way, This was some of the business I
Speaker 1: had to do. Here they're receiving the inaugural ACM Diamond
Speaker 1: Chairman's Award, a well earned honor for a duo who
Speaker 1: made country louder, cooler, and a little more boot cut.
Speaker 1: And then we get to the music. So that may
Speaker 1: have been all the jokes for the first I did
Speaker 1: some other jokes later where I'm it didn't make fun
Speaker 1: of but I did a little pokes at some of
Speaker 1: the people, like when Eric Church writes a love song, Mmm,
Speaker 1: why shoul I remember that joke, and then I introduced him,
Speaker 1: So Eric Church's okay, Keith Urban plays guitar like it
Speaker 1: just stole something from him or something like that. Did
Speaker 1: one of those easy jokes, which was got a pretty
Speaker 1: good laugh when introduced Keith Urban. Eric Church can sing
Speaker 1: a love can make you feel a love song, can
Speaker 1: make you feel a love song and also make you
Speaker 1: feel like you've been in a bar fight at the
Speaker 1: same time, something like that about when Church came out.
Speaker 1: I remember, But those were all the jokes that I told.
Speaker 1: I had another like eight or nine that I made
Speaker 1: about each of the artists, which were Landy Wilson, Eric Church,
Speaker 1: Keith Urban, Zach Topp, Cody Johnson, Pretty Start starts out
Speaker 1: at night, Megan Maroney, who's awesome. The way I'll say
Speaker 1: this about Meghan Maroney, I like Meghan a lot. She's
Speaker 1: super funny, and I guess I did. I knew she
Speaker 1: was funny because there's Bobby Casters there. You should look
Speaker 1: it up. It was really one of the first interviews
Speaker 1: she'd ever done, and I could tell then she's a
Speaker 1: little funny, but she definitely didn't have the confidence that
Speaker 1: she has now. And we sat for like twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes before that, just in the green room, Uh,
Speaker 1: Meghan and myself and then Cody Johnson came in for
Speaker 1: a little bit and we all sat around and you
Speaker 1: have heard me mention this. I guess there's like a
Speaker 1: code or something where like all managers leave, Like my
Speaker 1: team walked off to another corner. It was just us
Speaker 1: three talking. I guess they were like giving respect to
Speaker 1: the people who are about to go on and perform.
Speaker 1: I know, I thought it was cool, but we just
Speaker 1: all just kind of talk. Megan and Maroney's freaking hilarious.
Speaker 1: I don't really know because I see her on social media,
Speaker 1: but I don't follow her close enough to know how
Speaker 1: funny she is online. But yeah, when it comes to
Speaker 1: fun she was telling some really funny stories that I
Speaker 1: I will not tell because I was in that pride,
Speaker 1: but funny, they like really funny. ACMs were the next night,
Speaker 1: And what was kind of weird about the ACMs for
Speaker 1: me was my third year doing the show on Amazon
Speaker 1: and you're one in year twopics backstage and when someone
Speaker 1: to win, they'd come backstage, I do a little minute
Speaker 1: hit with them, talk to them. They'd leave, But I
Speaker 1: kind of knew who was coming and it kind of
Speaker 1: knew what the producers wanted me to ask. Now, this year,
Speaker 1: Riba was hosting, and they were like, Heyribe doesn't want
Speaker 1: to leave the stage and think about Riba. She's always
Speaker 1: known for tons of outfit changes. So those times were
Speaker 1: used for Riba to get ready for whatever she was
Speaker 1: doing next. Because she performed as well she hosted, she
Speaker 1: dead did outfit changes, all the stuff that Reban normally
Speaker 1: does wonderfully. So they have me in the audience with
Speaker 1: no direction, and I mean that in the most complimentary
Speaker 1: way as to They were like, hey, just do what
Speaker 1: you do. And I'm like, what does that mean to you?
Speaker 1: Like do what I do? And they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll give you a couple of things to say that
Speaker 1: you know how to get out. But talking to the camera,
Speaker 1: talk about the show, talk to people in the crowd.
Speaker 1: It's a big boost of confidence because I don't only
Speaker 1: know them as far as country music know them. I
Speaker 1: only know them from TV know them, and they're like,
Speaker 1: you do what you do. And I had like five
Speaker 1: segments through the two hours, and so that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: And each of the segments was like a minute minute ten,
Speaker 1: which is a long time on television, and there was
Speaker 1: no script even during rehearsal. We didn't do it up
Speaker 1: to time because all the artists would rehearse their song
Speaker 1: up to time. We even ran the full show. But
Speaker 1: for me, when I was rehearsing, there was nobody in
Speaker 1: the seats, so I could really couldn't rehearse anything because
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was gonna do. So the
Speaker 1: show starts and all like, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1: We go out, and I thought it'd be funny to
Speaker 1: get Jelly Roll to sign a can of jelly, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep that in my back pocket. Luckily it fit,
Speaker 1: and so I go out. In the first segment, Jelly
Speaker 1: Roll is actually sitting right there, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this now. Then up segment number one,
Speaker 1: I took a sharpie and I blacked out the smuckers.
Speaker 1: They didn't tell me too, There was no brand deal.
Speaker 1: They didn't even know what I was gonna do. That's
Speaker 1: the thing, that little bit, little corny bit. I didn't
Speaker 1: run it by anybody. I don't know what they would
Speaker 1: have said, but I just put the jelly in my
Speaker 1: pocket and walked out and said Jelly roll, will you
Speaker 1: sign it? And he laughed, crowd went crazy. He signed it,
Speaker 1: and then I went to look for Keith Urban because
Speaker 1: the teas that I had to do, like the one
Speaker 1: piece of business in that minute and thirty second hit
Speaker 1: was to say, Keith Urban's being honored with a Triple
Speaker 1: Crown Award and he's coming up. And so I can't
Speaker 1: find Keith because everybody's moved and it's easier to find
Speaker 1: where they're sitting when there's nobody in the seats because
Speaker 1: there are these big head cards with their name on
Speaker 1: it and all the other seats are empty. But I
Speaker 1: couldn't find Keith. So I walked way past him and
Speaker 1: you can see this. It's on my Instagram too, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, where's Kaith and they're like, he's back behind you.
Speaker 1: And so I go to Keith and give him a hug,
Speaker 1: and then I have the jelly in my hand and
Speaker 1: I seen a Cole Kidman and the Cole Kitman has
Speaker 1: always been so nice to me. I've probably met her
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen times and super kind, and there have
Speaker 1: been sometimes where it hasn't just been like a super
Speaker 1: quick meeting, like I've had conversations with her lovely, so
Speaker 1: I felt safe that I could bring her unto the bit,
Speaker 1: and so I did, and I said, oh, who cares
Speaker 1: about Keith, here's Nicole, and gave her a hug and
Speaker 1: gave her the jelly. So the bit ends. Listen, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna win amy for it. Wasn't really planning it
Speaker 1: right then, but it happened, and the bit ends, and
Speaker 1: I say, hey, you don't have to keep that, Nicole.
Speaker 1: I'll take the jelly back. You have to hold it
Speaker 1: all night. So I took jelly back, and some guy
Speaker 1: who I thought was a TV producer comes up and goes, hey,
Speaker 1: we need that jelly for a photo. And I don't know why,
Speaker 1: so I hand it to him. It was a photographer
Speaker 1: that stole my jelly. Somebody stole my jelly with jelly
Speaker 1: roll his name on it. So nothing was rehearsed, and
Speaker 1: that maybe at times Wyatt looked a little wild because
Speaker 1: as I'm talking to the camera, things are happening behind me.
Speaker 1: Or there was one part where they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: go out to where Blake is because Blake's gonna do.
Speaker 1: I think maybe he was honoring somebody. I'll be there
Speaker 1: and Blake's but Blake wasn't there, and so I gotta pivot.
Speaker 1: But for those asking, nothing was rehearsed and they put
Speaker 1: no restrictions on me at all. But they actually didn't
Speaker 1: tell me what to do at all, so that can
Speaker 1: also be nerve wracking. At one point, there was a
Speaker 1: sound issue and it's going bam, and I'm sitting backstage.
Speaker 1: I have one of my shoes off and or new shoes.
Speaker 1: My feet were hurting, so I took one of my
Speaker 1: shoes off and then I Bobby, you have thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: We need you out there, and I'm thinking, no problem,
Speaker 1: throw my shoe on. I go out to look for
Speaker 1: my camera guy. Because it's mobile, there's celebrities everywhere, it's
Speaker 1: easy I can go talk to celebrities. They put me
Speaker 1: on what they call their camera on the jib, which
Speaker 1: is a piece of machinery in the corner of the room,
Speaker 1: so I could go talk to nobody. So I was
Speaker 1: just gonna have to talk only to a camera and
Speaker 1: fil which wouldn't have been a big deal if it
Speaker 1: was like, you have thirty seconds, we need you to
Speaker 1: fill for forty five seconds a minute, But it was
Speaker 1: we need you to fill until we get it fixed.
Speaker 1: So look, I've been training my whole life for that.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that it's not a little nerve wracking. Luckily,
Speaker 1: it happened so quick I didn't have time to get
Speaker 1: nervous about it. So I walk out and I had
Speaker 1: another bit planned later in the evening, had it presented itself,
Speaker 1: where I had a sticker that said hello, I'm and
Speaker 1: that sticker that said hello, I'm the people wear it
Speaker 1: says hello, I'm on, and you write your name in
Speaker 1: that white block under it. I wrote Lionel because Lionel
Speaker 1: Richie was there and he has the song Hello, and
Speaker 1: I was gonna do a bit with that, right, It's
Speaker 1: like I always wanted to do this. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: it on his jacket, and so I had it in
Speaker 1: my coat pocket in case it were to happen. So
Speaker 1: they throw me on the jib camera and they go,
Speaker 1: everything's broken, we need you to go, and I just
Speaker 1: start going. It's just saying crap. I know, I started
Speaker 1: teasing stuff. Matthew Ramsey from Old Dominion walk by and
Speaker 1: said something about his chest hair. I don't even remember
Speaker 1: because none of it was planned, and not only that
Speaker 1: it was so out of my control how long I
Speaker 1: was going to talk on what I was talking about,
Speaker 1: But we got through it. I didn't have an earpiece in,
Speaker 1: so the producer gave me hands on the shoulders, which
Speaker 1: means ten seconds. We got out of it, went back
Speaker 1: to the room. Felt pretty good about it. But I
Speaker 1: the Lionel thing. Why I bring that up and I
Speaker 1: had it prepared was as they told me, Hey, we
Speaker 1: need you out there in twenty seconds, and I'm putting
Speaker 1: a shoe on Tom, who is my manager, him and
Speaker 1: Morgan number one. I said, hey, can you grab Lionel
Speaker 1: because I think it'd be a funny time to do
Speaker 1: this bit, and he goes got it, and he knows
Speaker 1: Lionel Lionel is the same management I am. So he
Speaker 1: goes up the line and goes, hey, Bobby is having
Speaker 1: a cover because there's a sound emergency. It's live on
Speaker 1: Amazon right now over in the corner. Can you come over?
Speaker 1: And Lionel's like, yeah, sure, absolutely, So Lionel gets up
Speaker 1: to come over, and as soon as he does, Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys owner, sees Lione goes Lionel, hey, I want
Speaker 1: you to meet my family. No, Lionel Richie because Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones grabbed him, and Lionel's like, and I get it.
Speaker 1: You can't leave Jerry Jones. He owns the building we're
Speaker 1: doing so as it was ending, then Lionel comes up
Speaker 1: and it was lovely to see him. Love Lionel, one
Speaker 1: of the nicest guys ever. But I had that bit planned.
Speaker 1: I actually never got to do the bit because Lionel left,
Speaker 1: but I was going to do it then, but I
Speaker 1: couldn't get Lionel there in time. So but I was
Speaker 1: that if anything bad happens, you're covering, and something bad
Speaker 1: did happen, and I covered and it went well because
Speaker 1: it may have just looked like a sloppy segment like
Speaker 1: me just talking randomly. It did not look like something
Speaker 1: was badly broken, which temporarily it was. There was only
Speaker 1: one picture I wanted, and whenever I go to these events,
Speaker 1: I never actually want to bother people and be like,
Speaker 1: can I get a picture? Now? I'll take pictures with
Speaker 1: my friends sometimes, and maybe my friends are artists, But
Speaker 1: the only picture I really wanted to get was from
Speaker 1: Jesse Murph because my wife listens to her music a lot.
Speaker 1: I like her music too, but this Gucci main song
Speaker 1: I Love. I'll play a little bit to this, so
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna play much of it because I'll cut
Speaker 1: it off the podcast. But big fan and I said,
Speaker 1: if I see her, I want to get a picture,
Speaker 1: And so I saw her, but she was holding a pig.
Speaker 1: She had a baby pet pig, and I was like
Speaker 1: it was easy because I was like, oh, gott I
Speaker 1: get a picture with you in the pig. So if
Speaker 1: she didn't have the pick, I was gonna still gonna
Speaker 1: get a picture. But that was the only picture I wanted.
Speaker 1: I got the picture. I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: There was one time where I'm in the crowd and
Speaker 1: they wanted me to go up and tease that Brooks
Speaker 1: and Dunn were there, and I'm on the mic and
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, anybody here a legend, raise your hand,
Speaker 1: and nobody raised their hand except for some people in
Speaker 1: the back that weren't artists. I did make a slightly
Speaker 1: funny joke because some guy raised his hand and said,
Speaker 1: you are a legend because you're like fifty two and
Speaker 1: you're still frosting your tips and his hair. Though that's
Speaker 1: pretty funny. When I watched it back, I don't remember
Speaker 1: saying it, but when I saw it, I was like,
Speaker 1: slightly ruthless, kind of funny. But I go to Ronnie
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, because they had one for Duo
Speaker 1: of the Year, I said, you take you win, and
Speaker 1: he goes, what It's kind of loud in the room,
Speaker 1: but I forgot, like, I think one of Ronnie's ears
Speaker 1: isn't as good as the other. I think I talked
Speaker 1: into the wrong year, basically, and then we laugh and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I don't know why you're yelling at me,
Speaker 1: but that's why it seemed like he either wasn't paying attention,
Speaker 1: didn't know who I was, or didn't want to talk
Speaker 1: to he couldn't hear me. But I'm an idiot because
Speaker 1: I know that, and I don't know why this set
Speaker 1: it down, and was like, hey, I'll talk to you.
Speaker 1: Normally I should have went to the Goodyear. Also, Kurt
Speaker 1: Warner was in the audience. Kurt Warner played for the
Speaker 1: Rams Wonner Super Bowl Fastest Show on turf, beats Titans
Speaker 1: back in the day, played for the Cardinals Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame quarterback. The first time that I met Kurt Warner
Speaker 1: was virtually on Skype. Who even says Skype. Why did
Speaker 1: I just say Skype? I think I just read a
Speaker 1: story about them going bankrupt? Skype? What the heck on Zoom?
Speaker 1: And Matt Castle and myself interviewed him for our podcast
Speaker 1: Lots to say. Then, when I did NFL Honors, because
Speaker 1: that's the award show for the NFL players they give
Speaker 1: out like Rookie of the Year. It was in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and the super Bowl. Fox and NFL had me
Speaker 1: present an award to George Kittle, who's a tied endo
Speaker 1: the forty nine. But that show they have you sit
Speaker 1: up in the first few rows if you're going on camera,
Speaker 1: because since you have to walk backstage pretty quickly, they
Speaker 1: want you to be close. So I'm seated right next
Speaker 1: to Kurt Warner and his wife, and we were there
Speaker 1: for an hour and twenty minutes and they were awesome.
Speaker 1: We talked the whole time, and so we got to
Speaker 1: know each other that night. And then I'm there and
Speaker 1: we were going to commercial after I'd finished a segment
Speaker 1: and this guy comes up and hugs me. He's like,
Speaker 1: what's happening. It's freaking Kurt Warner and he was like,
Speaker 1: I saw all you wanted to say hi, and I
Speaker 1: was like, do what up, went back and talked to
Speaker 1: them again later in the night. Lovely people love them.
Speaker 1: They came in. Apparently Kurt Warner and Blake Shelton are
Speaker 1: good friends. He came in for Blake Shelton's event that
Speaker 1: Blake did the same night that Brooks and Dunn did
Speaker 1: their event. But that's my other note about the ACMs
Speaker 1: that Kurt Warner is awesome in general, and it was
Speaker 1: really cool that he was there because he's such a
Speaker 1: kind got him and his wife are so kind, So
Speaker 1: ACMs were great. I have been attached to the idea
Speaker 1: I want to host one of these award shows, one
Speaker 1: of the big ones ACMs, CMAS. I've positioned myself for
Speaker 1: many years, and there was one time, and right now
Speaker 1: I cannot tell the story. One day I will be
Speaker 1: able to. There was a year that they said, hey,
Speaker 1: we think we want you to host the show, and
Speaker 1: then we'll say a couple weeks before the announced there
Speaker 1: was a reason they had to pull me from hosting
Speaker 1: the show. And it was not a reason that I
Speaker 1: did not want to say too much. I didn't do
Speaker 1: anything to make them pull me off the show. But
Speaker 1: it really sucked because that's been one of the goals
Speaker 1: forever and I've made it known that I want to
Speaker 1: host ACMs, But when it's the sixtieth and they want
Speaker 1: to bring Rieba back to do the eighteenth, and that
Speaker 1: number eighteen wasn't as important as it was. She's hosted
Speaker 1: that show more than anybody else. And since it was
Speaker 1: the sixtieth, there was that the first year they did it,
Speaker 1: you know, they had Garth and they had and.
Speaker 2: Dolly.
Speaker 1: You can't really argue with it. It was Guard's first
Speaker 1: ever time to host, and so I'd always be like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gona wait time, wait more time, wait
Speaker 1: my time. I don't want to be second Banana. Those
Speaker 1: last two years, I tried to actually not be a
Speaker 1: part of the show, even though I love them, I
Speaker 1: lose money by going to do it, and it takes
Speaker 1: me away from the morning show, which I don't always
Speaker 1: mind because I can do it remotely, but I just
Speaker 1: don't a higher country and I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be exhausted. And if you know anything about me chat
Speaker 1: GBT told me earlier that I get too tired sometimes
Speaker 1: that I can't be functioning at the same level that
Speaker 1: i'd like to be functioning, or that I normally function
Speaker 1: because I'm too exhausted. So I said, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm going to do it this year. But
Speaker 1: our special just got picked up for the ACMs, which
Speaker 1: they never asked us to do. We just went and
Speaker 1: shot it and presented to them, said hey, would you
Speaker 1: want to option our special? And they said yes, we do.
Speaker 1: We were like, what really? So I said, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it one more year. And so I did
Speaker 1: it this year. And by the way, my plans is
Speaker 1: of an hour to not do it next year. They
Speaker 1: have not asked me to do it next year. It
Speaker 1: has not even been a converse. But my plans right
Speaker 1: now are probably to not do it next year. But
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to host it, and I was always
Speaker 1: I wondered if I would ever be able to show
Speaker 1: them how good I would be at hosting it, And
Speaker 1: I had opportunities this year, and I think I actually
Speaker 1: succeeded in those opportunities by doing a bunch of live
Speaker 1: stuff on the show, by things breaking down and me
Speaker 1: covering it, by all those people that make those decisions
Speaker 1: being at the Brooks and done thing when I'm telling jokes,
Speaker 1: so I'm not as married to the idea of that
Speaker 1: I'm a failure if I never get to do it,
Speaker 1: because I think I got to prove that I can
Speaker 1: do it. Now I'm just not famous enough. So I
Speaker 1: think that's really what it is at this point, because
Speaker 1: the skill set I got it. I can go live,
Speaker 1: I can tell jokes, I can write jokes, I know
Speaker 1: all the people. I have a good TV resume, I
Speaker 1: have a comedy special, I have everything you need to
Speaker 1: have to do it. I'm just not famous enough and
Speaker 1: they really want somebody famous that they can show in
Speaker 1: the promo of it. So unless I get to be
Speaker 1: a bit more famous, which that's not even really my
Speaker 1: goal anymore, probably won't host it. And I think, knowing
Speaker 1: I would have said that six months ago, i'd have
Speaker 1: been like, you're only saying that because you're a quitter
Speaker 1: and you're scared you're never going to get it. Therefore
Speaker 1: you're just gonna say I'm going to give up and
Speaker 1: not get it. But that is absolutely not the case.
Speaker 1: I was able to show every freaking skill that I
Speaker 1: have this year. The right people saw it, and if
Speaker 1: I never get chosen I'm actually okay with it because
Speaker 1: I only ever want the opportunity to prove myself. It's
Speaker 1: not that I need to get it, it's that I
Speaker 1: need to show I can do it to the people
Speaker 1: that make the decisions that will be able to give it.
Speaker 1: And if I can do that, because sometimes I may
Speaker 1: actually may not be good enough. But if I can
Speaker 1: do that and I get it or I don't get
Speaker 1: it to me, that's the win, the WI win. So
Speaker 1: I won. I won this year by performing at a
Speaker 1: high level, showing my skill set during the live show,
Speaker 1: and also showing that I can stand on stage, own
Speaker 1: the stage, rite and tell jokes that are relevant to
Speaker 1: the weekend the people that are their country music. So yeah,
Speaker 1: if I don't get it anymore, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1: I'm not married to the idea that I'm a failure.
Speaker 1: If I don't three weeks ago, six months ago, that
Speaker 1: would not have been coming out of my mouth because
Speaker 1: I would have thought, yeah, you know what, at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna get it. But I feel like
Speaker 1: a total and complete failure because that was a goal
Speaker 1: of mine. I don't feel like a failure anymore. And
Speaker 1: if I never get it that kind of sucks, But
Speaker 1: it's not because I suck a little bit of therapy
Speaker 1: coming through right there too, but also because this year,
Speaker 1: more than any other year, I got to spread my
Speaker 1: wings and show that these skills that I've been developing
Speaker 1: over the past ten years, they're hearing ready for you.
Speaker 1: If eighty people say no, I'm ready to go. All right,
Speaker 1: that's the episode. Thank you guys, all you fifty minute clubbers.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We went way over fifty minutes this time,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate you guys being here and you can't
Speaker 1: me in the DMS. Be like, listen all fifty minutes
Speaker 1: and if give me your thoughts. Did you hear something
Speaker 1: you liked, something you didn't like? Like I love to
Speaker 1: know whenever I'm just talking about myself because I'm not
Speaker 1: reading from a script. The only notes that I had
Speaker 1: were from the Eddie and I segment. Whenever I put
Speaker 1: together all that stuff. Otherwise, I have an idea of
Speaker 1: what I want to talk about it, I come in
Speaker 1: and talk about it. Sometimes I get and tangent off
Speaker 1: of it. But let me know. Thanks to all you guys,
Speaker 1: and we will see you next week. We have Brandon
Speaker 1: Lancaster from Lanco, lead singer of Lanco coming up in
Speaker 1: the next episode. What I really like about his story,
Speaker 1: but I think you'll like about a story is they
Speaker 1: were a band and they have the song That's Gonna
Speaker 1: Be Your Forever you were Gonna Be My Wife Number
Speaker 1: one song that another song that did really well covid hit,
Speaker 1: lost a record, lost their management. Now they're kind of
Speaker 1: back at it and back on and doing well. And
Speaker 1: that's really hard in the creative world to be the
Speaker 1: shiny toy, completely lose your shine and then get it back.
Speaker 1: It's very difficult because you're looked at as a has
Speaker 1: been because there's one hundred new people coming up that
Speaker 1: they can go to instead. But history's really good and
Speaker 1: I hope you listen to the next episode. I hope
Speaker 1: you liked that Jessica Andrews episode, and yeah, that's what's up.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, and we'll see you next time. I
Speaker 1: love this episode of The Bobby Cast.
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