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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the hum A Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Sean Coleman. Hope, wherever you are and

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Speaker 1: wherever you are listening, you are having a great start

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Speaker 1: to what should be hopefully a long weekend for all

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Speaker 1: of us, because we're actually enjoying Braves baseball right now.

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Speaker 1: I say a long weekend because we get to look

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Speaker 1: forward to Braves baseball. I say that with excitement because

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Speaker 1: they've been playing good baseball as of late. And once again,

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Speaker 1: this bravese team right now is My podcast partner is

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Speaker 1: always Stephen told Bert is with me.

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Speaker 2: Stephen.

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Speaker 1: What's standing out about some of these wins right now

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Speaker 1: is that we over the past fifteen months, have seen

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Speaker 1: so many of these type of games like we saw tonight,

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Speaker 1: a four to three come from behind victory late against

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Speaker 1: the Mets. So many of these games have resulted in losses.

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Speaker 1: We're even down a run or two, and it seems

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Speaker 1: like an insurmountable hill to climb, but yet we get

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Speaker 1: the job done. And tonight what made it extra special

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Speaker 1: It came on the heels of great performances from Ozzie

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Speaker 1: Alby's and Michael Harris. The second.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well so buddy. You know, this is what I

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Speaker 3: was talking about on our last show, was like, it's

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Speaker 3: still fun for me to win game, like it's still

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Speaker 3: fun to watch wins, like I don't. I don't. I'm

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Speaker 3: not watching tonight's game thinking, man, I really hope they

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Speaker 3: lose this game so we get a slightly better odds

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Speaker 3: at a slightly better draft pick, Like I just I

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Speaker 3: can't do that. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: watch games like that like I want. I was watching

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Speaker 3: this game thinking, my god, do I want the Mets

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Speaker 3: to lose two games in a row to Carlos Carrasco

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Speaker 3: and Bryce Elder, Like that's what I want. I want.

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Speaker 3: I want to watch Mets talk show Radio Go New.

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Speaker 3: I want to watch Frank you know, have an aneurysm.

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Speaker 3: I want to I want to watch the Meltdown because

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Speaker 3: it's just funny. You know, the Braves are having a

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Speaker 3: crap season, so you know, misery loves company. Let's see

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Speaker 3: if we can make the Mets season miserable. And so

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Speaker 3: tonight was fun and it was fun being on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: like everybody, what has been a really disappointing and negative

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Speaker 3: season A lot of the year, like everybody was just

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Speaker 3: enjoying themselves and when you know, the Braves went up

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Speaker 3: late in the game, four to three. The Braids won

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Speaker 3: four to three. We're gonna talk about it all, Bryce Elder,

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Speaker 3: Michael Harris, Ozzy Albi's might be a bigger topic tonight,

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Speaker 3: but you know, everybody was just excited. And that's what

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Speaker 3: I miss. I miss. That's the thing you miss when

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Speaker 3: you're not when you're not very good, is like the

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Speaker 3: excitement that comes when you do well and you're right,

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Speaker 3: you're one hundred percent right. These are games the Braves

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Speaker 3: have lost the last eighteen months, these one run games.

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Speaker 3: You know, they don't come back against other teams bullpens

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Speaker 3: the way they used to. So yeah, I mean, and

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Speaker 3: of course it's Michael Harres. It comes through with a

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Speaker 3: big hit, like just a fun night, just a really

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And again, it's what adds to the fun is

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Speaker 1: winning games that you're not used to seeing this win.

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Speaker 1: But also again the names that we've mentioned, Michael Harris,

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Speaker 1: Ozzy Alby's, Brice Elder, there's been much more negative about

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Speaker 1: their performance this year than positive. Let's just be honest,

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Speaker 1: but it was good to see them contribute to a win.

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Speaker 1: And I want to start with Ozzy because it always

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Speaker 1: feels good to see Ozzie have these type of games

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Speaker 1: comes to his performance as of late, and even though

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Speaker 1: the past couple of years, he's such a lovable personality.

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Speaker 1: He's such a great part of this organization who that's

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Speaker 1: is struggling right now, but going after a playoff spot,

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Speaker 1: it was great to see Ozzie step up. The big

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Speaker 1: thing for Ozzy though, is at some point you have

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Speaker 1: to hope that a game like this can help him

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Speaker 1: He did pick up his game in July a bit,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, Ozzy. For a lot of people, there are

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Speaker 3: a lot of people in the Brays fan base where

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Speaker 3: Like he's got this whole Instagram following with his fish

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Speaker 3: we've all watched Ozzie grow up. I mean, Ozzie came

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Speaker 3: up in twenty seventeen. It's been you know, it's been

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Speaker 3: eight nine years and it's hard to believe it's been

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Speaker 3: That's he's got a you know, even accounting for tonight,

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Speaker 3: he's got a seventy eight WRC plus for the season,

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Speaker 3: Ozzie's contract is over after this year. He's got club options,

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Speaker 3: but those options can be declined if the Braves still choose.

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Speaker 3: So it's just good you you don't really, I mean,

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Speaker 3: we don't know for sure how many more games we're

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Speaker 3: gonna watch Ozzie Alby's playing Braves uniform. Now. The general

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Speaker 3: consensus has been he's gonna get that option picked up,

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Speaker 3: mainly because there's a big buyout attached to it and

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Speaker 3: you're really not saving that much money. But like, it

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be crazy, It wouldn't be like some crazy development

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Speaker 3: if the Braves moved on from Ozzie this offseason. And

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Speaker 3: so like for Braves fans who have grown up with

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Speaker 3: like tonight Man, they're just fun, Like it's just a

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Speaker 3: nice remind you that this dude's still got a little

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna make tonight too negative because they won

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Speaker 3: you know, the buyout to be too much, if they

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Speaker 3: You can make an argument, certainly, But for one night

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing that I think, you know, it

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Speaker 1: you know, I've kind of been on the side where

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Speaker 1: like the Michael Harris situation, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I know that many feel that, you know, another option

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Speaker 1: much Ozzie and Michael Harris have struggled, But I disagree

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Speaker 1: a true contender is Ozzy and Michael getting closer to

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Speaker 1: their old selves once again. Now, put whatever you know

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Speaker 1: percentage chance you want to on that happening, But I

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Speaker 1: do think that that is the best route for the

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Speaker 1: So at nightlight, tonight reminds you that Ozzie still has

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Speaker 1: it at times. Michael is reminding us that he still

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Speaker 1: over a long stretch. We just need to see it

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Speaker 1: To your point, though, it is great to talk about

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Speaker 1: it for one night, but really, for Ozzie, the big

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair, Like Ozsie can still change the narrative,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of a it's kind of garbage time of

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Speaker 3: Are they going to pick up the option or are

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Speaker 3: definitely towards they're going to pick up the option, just

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Speaker 3: because it's a seven million dollar option with a four

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Speaker 3: But again, I can certainly see an argument where the

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Speaker 3: Braves need offensive infusion from somewhere. Every other position on

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Speaker 3: I can understand that argument. So we'll see, we'll see

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Speaker 3: with Ozzie, but for one night, all of the big

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Speaker 3: Ossie fans got something that year for a really good

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Speaker 3: game and the Braves won. And so you know, we

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Speaker 1: And I also want to mention another factor in the win,

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Speaker 1: a big factor in the win, and that was the

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Speaker 1: performance of Bryce Elder, who you know, again it's rare

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Speaker 1: in a big moment, you know. We yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: Mets are trying to play competitive ball right now, and

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Speaker 1: we looked like the better team and Bryce Elder looked

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Speaker 1: quite well out there on the mound. But you mentioned

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Speaker 1: when Ozzie and Dansby came up just a second ago, Steven,

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Speaker 1: And of course we all know that twenty and eighteen

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Speaker 1: So Stephen, Probably the most exciting news of the day

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the you know, true notable names

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433
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Speaker 1: So Stephen, of course, you know we continue to get

465
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Speaker 1: positive updates, continue the incremental steps of Ronald Accuna Junior

466
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Speaker 1: and Chris Sill joining the Braves. But unfortunately, it was

467
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Speaker 1: also revealed today that it looks like when it comes

468
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Speaker 1: to Ronald Lopez as well as Spencer Schwellenbach. And of

469
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Speaker 1: course we kind of alreadyknew with Joejmenez. You know, Jamendez

470
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Speaker 1: had a bit of a setback here recently when it

471
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Speaker 1: comes to his rehab. Overall, Renald Lopez and Spincher swelling Bok,

472
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Speaker 1: they've just kind of been taking it slow. But the

473
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Speaker 1: point that I get that for each of those three

474
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Speaker 1: pitchers it looks as if their twenty twenty five season

475
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Speaker 1: is over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was tough news. It wasn't necessarily unexpected news,

477
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Speaker 3: but and you kind of have to take these one

478
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Speaker 3: at a time. So with Schwellenbach obviously the most important

479
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Speaker 3: guy on this list, it's such a weird injury to

480
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 3: break a bone in your elbow. It's such a weird injury.

481
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Speaker 3: I don't even know, Like I don't even know the

482
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Speaker 3: physics of like what all that effects. Like when you know,

483
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Speaker 3: when you're talking about like the rehab process, like is

484
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Speaker 3: it like rehabbing a ligament in your in your elbow

485
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Speaker 3: or is it like rehabbing a bone that's been broken?

486
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I've really never heard of this injury before,

487
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Speaker 3: so I have no idea what And.

488
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Speaker 1: I don't mean to interupt when he said when he

489
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Speaker 1: said when it came to this injury that he felt

490
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Speaker 1: like it was caused by the increase of velocity that

491
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Speaker 1: he's recently seen that can surgery of it as well,

492
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Speaker 1: because I know that it led to a bone injury

493
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Speaker 1: that will heal pretty quickly. But when he gets back

494
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Speaker 1: on the mound, is is we're all going to be

495
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Speaker 1: able to handle that over the long term. That that

496
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Speaker 1: was a bit concerning the.

497
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Speaker 3: Year, right, It's just such an un It's such an unnu.

498
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Speaker 3: It's just such a weird injury. We don't really have

499
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Speaker 3: any baseline for like a return or like a rehab,

500
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Speaker 3: and you know, it does it's a level of uncertainty

501
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Speaker 3: going into the off season, right because we don't really

502
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Speaker 3: know and I'm not sure the team really knows. And

503
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Speaker 3: that just kind of continues a theme because then you

504
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Speaker 3: go to the next guy, which is Ronaldo Lopez and listen.

505
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Speaker 3: Ronaldo Lopez had arthroscopic shoulder surgery on April eighth, and

506
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Speaker 3: it was reported at the time that he was gonna

507
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Speaker 3: go down for twelve weeks and then started throwing program,

508
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Speaker 3: and twelve weeks was up. I counted, I think it's

509
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Speaker 3: the first week of July. It was twelve weeks, and so,

510
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Speaker 3: you know, there was the messaging early on was that

511
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Speaker 3: it's a good chance Ronaldo's gonna pitch again this season,

512
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Speaker 3: and so the fact that he's not, I don't know

513
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Speaker 3: how much of it because of where the team is

514
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Speaker 3: in the standings or how much of it is just

515
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Speaker 3: like his rehab is not maybe going as well as

516
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Speaker 3: they hoped. They haven't really given us a lot of

517
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Speaker 3: details on Ronaldo. So again, like it's a shoulder, which

518
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Speaker 3: is terrifying of course, and it's just more level of

519
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Speaker 3: uncertainty in the rotation, Like it's it's not great that

520
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Speaker 3: he was supposed to be back, you know, potentially in

521
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Speaker 3: August and now he's not going to be back at all.

522
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Speaker 3: Now again that could be because of where the Braves

523
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Speaker 3: are in the standings, But again, like with Chris Sale,

524
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Speaker 3: if they thought he could get back and pitch a

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Speaker 3: little bit to set up a normal offseason, I think

526
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Speaker 3: they would have done it even where they are in

527
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Speaker 3: the standings, because that's what they're doing with Sale. Like

528
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Speaker 3: if he could, if he could do it, if he

529
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Speaker 3: could physically do it, I think the team would want

530
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Speaker 3: him to do it, because this is literally what's happening

531
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Speaker 3: with Chris Sales. So I I think it's because his

532
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: rehab is not going exactly how they hoped. And so

533
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Speaker 3: now you got another layer of uncertainty and concern in

534
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Speaker 3: a major part of your rotation are supposed to be

535
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Speaker 3: a part of your rotation next year. So those two

536
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Speaker 3: combined along with like the uncertainty around Grant Holmes, is

537
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: he going to be out? Is he going to be

538
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Speaker 3: in next year? A J Smith Shaver. You know, like

539
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Speaker 3: when Chris Sale and Spencer Strider are the two like

540
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 3: least questionable parts of your rotation in terms of like injury,

541
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Speaker 3: that's not a great place to be. And that's kind

542
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Speaker 3: of where the Braves are, like they going into next year,

543
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Speaker 3: Like the questions around the rotation are just going to

544
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Speaker 3: be so massive. And you know we've already talked about

545
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Speaker 3: Spencer and and all the stuff he's going through with

546
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Speaker 3: his velocity. There's an uncertainty there. Of course, Sale is

547
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Speaker 3: at the age he is and the injuries he collects,

548
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Speaker 3: there's uncertainty there. Like one through six and the Braves rotation.

549
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Speaker 3: There are massive questions for next year, so that's gonna

550
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Speaker 3: be a fascinating thing to watch in the off season.

551
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Speaker 3: And then joejaman As you know, that just kind of stucked.

552
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Speaker 3: I mean, it was a weird knee injury they did

553
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Speaker 3: serve in the offseason, and then it ended up being

554
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: way worse than they thought. And then it came out

555
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: the other day that like his knee wasn't responding well,

556
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: it wasn't able to hold the weight. Joe is a

557
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 3: very big guy. Joe's a huge guy actually, and so

558
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: just you know, just mark one more for massive uncertainty

559
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 3: going into twenty twenty six. And all of these guys,

560
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Speaker 3: especially Jimenez and Ronaldo, you know, are signed for decent

561
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Speaker 3: amount of money next year. Schwallenbach is still a league

562
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: minimum deal, but Ronaldo and Jimenez make real money next year.

563
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: So a lot of uncertainty with some pretty prominent names

564
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 3: in the Braves pitching staff that we're probably not going

565
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: to have answers to until we get to twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 3: and even then it might still be up in the air.

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00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's kind of what is going to make

568
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Speaker 1: this off season a bit more interesting, even to the

569
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Speaker 1: point of a bit concerning. And what I mean by

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00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: that is is that it's just it seems like this

571
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: off's upcoming off season is kind of going to combine

572
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: two of the you know, biggest concerns that you've had

573
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: the previous two off seasons. Two off seasons ago, it

574
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: was the Braves clearly adding you know, a starting rotation

575
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: level talent back to you know, the organization with so

576
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: many potential starting pitchers leaving the organization as we've seen

577
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: do over the past couple of years. This past off

578
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: season it was the bullpen where we had questions and

579
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: of course that wasn't answered. Well, now you potentially have

580
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: to feel, you know, multiple spots on both ends because

581
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: you've got so many of your starting rotation. You got

582
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: so many questions around that, just like we had this

583
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: past off season, but now you've had even more injuries

584
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: and of course the ineffectiveness of the bullpen. A couple

585
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: of things that you know that makes me wonder about

586
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: is we're in that early to mid era or area

587
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: of the season in August where you typically see teams

588
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: do extensions. I wonder if the Brace potentially could go

589
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: to Ryce Ella Iglesias and see if he would be

590
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: willing to stay around for another year. You know, him

591
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: being at the back end of the road of the

592
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily guarantee of the closer spot, but that

593
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: is something you at least know that he's going to

594
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: be healthy, he'll take the mound, and he still has

595
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: the capability of getting the job done. That could be

596
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: a route that you can go. But the overall point

597
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: that I'm getting at is is not only do you

598
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: have so many of your most important pitchers entering an

599
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: offseason where they're not in one hundred percent health, but

600
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: you also don't know what their outcome beyond this year

601
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: is going to be. We're not going to be in

602
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: the bullpen. Who's going to be your ace next year?

603
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: Along with sale, who's going to potentially be your closer?

604
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: All those questions remain, and so this team at some

605
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: point has to find answers, and it's just frustrating that

606
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: obviously a bit concerning that not only do some of

607
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: the older questions continue to get louder, but new questions

608
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: form and we don't see a lot of answers when

609
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: it comes to the consistency and reliability of RAF staff.

610
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean just think about it. Just

611
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: go like position by position on the pitching staff, Like

612
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: literally one through five in the rotation have had some

613
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: sort of major injury this year. You know, Strider is

614
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: dealing with a drop in velocity and we don't know

615
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: what that's gonna end up being for him. Holmes has

616
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: got this pending Tommy John surgery, Ronaldo's got the shoulder,

617
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: schwellenbas got the elbow. Right, that's the whole rotation, and

618
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: then you go to the bullpen. Rossioglaciers is a pending

619
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: free agent. He just came off a pretty rough season.

620
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: Joejamenez was supposed to be the primary setup guy. He's

621
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: been out the whole year and is it coming back

622
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: and has got this questionable knee. Like every spot and

623
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: like critical spot for the twenty twenty six pitching staff

624
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: is like got a massive question And I don't I mean,

625
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Speaker 3: I don't even think the.

626
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Speaker 1: Same thing we said twelve months ago to.

627
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Speaker 3: At least last offseason. We had like Sail coming off

628
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: as Cy Young, we had schwellenbag Like, we didn't have

629
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: those questions with those guys, even Ronaldo had such a

630
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: good year last year, like we didn't have that. Now

631
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: it's every Now, it's everybody now, it's every every critical

632
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: name in the on the pitching staff, maybe not named

633
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: Dylan Lee, like that might be the one guy who's

634
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: like solid, really good picture that is should be fine

635
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: for next year. Outside of that, like everyone else, it

636
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: has got this massive question attached to their name, and

637
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: a lot of them are paid real money. I have

638
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: no idea. I have no clue how Alex is gonna

639
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: handle this in this offseason. I don't know. I mean,

640
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: I I just don't think you can just go into

641
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: and thinking, yeah, everybody's gonna be fine. We don't really

642
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: need to do much. Like the odds of all of

643
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: these guys being fine next year it is. It seems

644
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: tiny like you're gonna have some You're gonna have some

645
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: of this go poorly. Maybe not all of it, maybe

646
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Speaker 3: not most of it, but some of it's gonna go

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Speaker 3: poorly for next year. That's just how pitching is. So

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Speaker 3: how the Braves approached the rotation and the bullpen in

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Speaker 3: the offseason. Man, you want to talk about a fascinating

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Speaker 3: toy line, and then you add on top of that

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Speaker 3: the offense was a big weakness for the team for

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Speaker 3: a large part of this season. I mean, hell, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be It's going to be a fact. I mean

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Speaker 3: we've talked about a lot, but it's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: fascinating offseason.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that I'll say is this, though, is

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Speaker 1: that we know that Alex is not shied away from

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Speaker 1: giving away big contracts if he felt it made sense.

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Speaker 1: I know many are thinking to themselves, will be once

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Speaker 1: to g go about a big contract? Why didn't he

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Speaker 1: just keep Max free? Well, I don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: go that big. But you know, being tied to names

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Speaker 1: like Aaron Noah, Nathan Yvaldi, Jeff Hoffman, you know Tanner

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Speaker 1: Scott as well, Alexon Toopoless will make the big move

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Speaker 1: if it's makes sense, if it makes sense, if it's

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Speaker 1: someone that he truly feels can help this team. So

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Speaker 1: I think as much as the Braids are sitting here

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Speaker 1: talking about they're rolling in the money, I think at

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Speaker 1: some point, for the right person, they will open up

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Speaker 1: the you know, purse strings a little bit, open up

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Speaker 1: the pocketbook. But that's the thing about it. You're probably

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Speaker 1: going to have to see that happen. Because as awesome

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Speaker 1: as it is to see a hirston Waldrop and their

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Speaker 1: internal options potentially improved to the point to where they

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Speaker 1: can be in the majors, you've got to solidify this

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Speaker 1: at some point with what has already been a reliable

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Speaker 1: armor two outside of the Brads organization. I think that

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Speaker 1: that could be something we see this offseason is a

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Speaker 1: bigger than expected to move for another arm to be

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Speaker 1: added to the Brave staff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think they have to go get

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Speaker 3: somebody that's like a durable starter. I mean the Braves

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Speaker 3: have just kind of quietly built an extremely risky rotation.

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Speaker 3: I mean they just have like the durability of Chris Sayle,

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Speaker 3: the durability of Spencer Strider, the durability of Ronaldo Lopez.

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Speaker 3: Now you've got Grant Holmes with this elbow, you know,

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Speaker 3: pending Tommy John. I do think, like I Ivaldi last

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Speaker 3: offseason would have made so much sense. I think they

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Speaker 3: have to go get somebody like that. And I listen,

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Speaker 3: we do need to point out We've said this before

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Speaker 3: on the show. Next year at Triple A, they will

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Speaker 3: have some really high level pitching prospects that are a

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Speaker 3: quality that they have not had in several years. You know,

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Speaker 3: Fuentes Waldroup, there's a bunch of them, Jr. Richie I

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00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: think is in Triple A now. And then you have like,

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Speaker 3: you know what is Joey Wentz. We don't know is

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Speaker 3: Joey Wentz real? This is any of this real? Or

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Speaker 3: you know what is he? So they do have some

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Speaker 3: young guys, but yeah, I mean it's gonna be fat.

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Speaker 3: I mean you almost feel like they have to go

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Speaker 3: get somebody who's reliable and dependable and approven major league

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Speaker 3: starter who has shown they can get through a full

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Speaker 3: major league season healthy, which no, none of the Braves

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Speaker 3: can apparently do the last few years. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a fast It's going to be a

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Speaker 3: fascinating offseason.

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Speaker 1: And I think it goes back to the point of,

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Speaker 1: you know, yes, injuries are not clearly the biggest factor

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Speaker 1: in what has derailed the Braves twenty twenty five offseason.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously ben underperformance, mainly from the offense. But I

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Speaker 1: do think that it's worth, you know, mentioning that, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you feel that the Brave struggles over the past

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Speaker 1: fifteen to eighteen months has mainly been the offense. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that that probably is true, but questions around this starting staff,

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Speaker 1: especially when it comes to injuries and freak went off

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Speaker 1: injuries that you just can't control, that's played a factor

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Speaker 1: as well. You just hope at some point in time,

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Speaker 1: maybe for a season or two, we could have more answers.

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Speaker 1: Thank question, Steven, Do you have anything else that as

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Speaker 1: we wrap up this edition of the Hammer Territory podcast.

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Speaker 3: No, the Braves just took two out of three from

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Speaker 3: the New York Mets, with the two wins coming with

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Speaker 3: Carlos Carrasco and Bryce Older on the mound. So while

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Speaker 3: the Mets are in a free fall and listen, there

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Speaker 3: hasn't been a lot to cheer about this year for

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Speaker 3: the Braves. For Braves fans, I would suggest for Brase

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Speaker 3: fans for tonight, for tomorrow, just hop on, hop on

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Speaker 3: Mets Twitter, hop on, you know, turn on the radio,

729
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 3: listen to a Mets calling show. If you just want

730
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: to experience some joy and what has been a largely

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Speaker 3: joyless season, really enjoy the next twenty four hours of

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Speaker 3: watching Mets fans. Just I mean, you're talking about one

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Speaker 3: foot off the ledge level, you know, meltdowns. It was,

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Speaker 3: it was. The last two days were a lot of fun,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I would love more games, more series

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Speaker 3: like this, But man, the last two days were a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun, and your muted.

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Speaker 1: The thing I'll say is this is that one thing

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Speaker 1: that I would continue to love to play because it

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Speaker 1: means that we're playing well, and guys who need to

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Speaker 1: play well or play well, let's continue to play that. Spoiler.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland has gotten a bit of a you know, going,

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Speaker 1: you know, potentially knocking on the door against Detroit, though

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Speaker 1: I think Detroit eventually will be just fine. But hey,

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Speaker 1: if we want to continue to play spoiler, let's keep

746
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Speaker 1: doing it. But agreed, Hey, we've been played really good

747
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Speaker 1: ball for the past week. Let's enjoy the most of it.

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Speaker 1: And hope you enjoyed this edition of the Heer Territory podcast.

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Speaker 1: You could find myself at Stat's Sac on two, Stephen

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Speaker 1: at be Underscore, Outliers on Twitter, Slash x Hammer Territory

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Speaker 1: across all forms of social media, part of the Foul

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00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Territory family of podcasts from Brad Scott, Stephen and myself.

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Speaker 1: Cannot thank you enough for always tuning in and being

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Speaker 1: support of us. Win or lose, but hey, it's nice again.

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Speaker 1: When we see who wins the losses, go braves. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you again sup here on the Hammer Territory

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Speaker 1: pop