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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Thursday edition in Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us as we strive, as we do every single

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Speaker 1: day to bring sanity to an insane world. We have

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Speaker 1: got a ton to track down for you, but off

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Speaker 1: the top interesting numbers coming out of Virginia. Glenn Junkin

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Speaker 1: pulled off the upset win in twenty twenty one. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk with you about a poll coming out

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Speaker 1: at Roanoke that suggests that Republicans may be able to

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Speaker 1: make a run in Virginia if Glenn Yunkin were potentially

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Speaker 1: on the ballot. Will discuss what that might mean and

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Speaker 1: the idea of expanding the sort of scope of potential

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Speaker 1: states that could be in play the battlefield as it were,

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Speaker 1: outside of the Midwest and a couple of states in

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Speaker 1: the southwest, and then maybe New Hampshire in the northeast.

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Speaker 1: But we'll discuss all that. I want to begin and

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Speaker 1: we should say the Murdoch for all of you out there,

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Speaker 1: and every time we talk about it, we get at

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Speaker 1: least I noticed deluged with people who were saying, thank

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Speaker 1: you for talking about this. I'm obsessed with it, and

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Speaker 1: simultaneously I hate this story. Why would you even mention it.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about a murder trial in South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: So we appreciate both of you. Do you notice that, Buck,

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Speaker 1: you're either all in on the Murdock trial or you're like,

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Speaker 1: this is the dumbest story ever. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: why you'd mentioned it. So I will say that I

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Speaker 1: wasn't fully in that category, but kind of initially I'm like, really, like,

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Speaker 1: what is this? And so I read, I'd read the headlines,

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Speaker 1: and I'd read a couple of news stories, you know,

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Speaker 1: the day that the trial broke, and then I got

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Speaker 1: deeper into it, and now I'm somewhat fascinated by this thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, now because you get to that second order

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Speaker 1: of knowledge where all of a sudden you're like, wait

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Speaker 1: a second, but what about when the Department of Public

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Speaker 1: Safety decided to slow roll the search for the You know,

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Speaker 1: there's all this stuff that you can start to sink,

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Speaker 1: sink your teeth into, all these these controversies that come up.

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Speaker 1: So that's where it is, you know, because it's five people,

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Speaker 1: five dead individuals all attached to this family, which is insane.

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Speaker 1: Closing arguments as we speak. They had drama earlier this

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Speaker 1: morning because they had to remove a juror and seat

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Speaker 1: an alternate juror, which I believe means they're down to

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Speaker 1: only one alternate juror member. So we'll see how long

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Speaker 1: the debate goes, what might happen there. But this case

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Speaker 1: could could go to jury by this afternoon potentially from

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Speaker 1: what you've seen, high confidencies. I feel like it's almost

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Speaker 1: almost impossible for the jury not to find him guilty.

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Speaker 1: But it's a jury. I think he is guilty. I'm

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Speaker 1: not one hundred percent confident that they're going to get

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Speaker 1: all of the jurors to unanimously agree on it. So

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Speaker 1: if I were kind of setting the odds, I think

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Speaker 1: most likely outcome is guilty. Second most likely outcome is

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Speaker 1: they can't persuade all of the jurors to agree, and

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Speaker 1: so we get some form of of you know, jury disagreement,

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Speaker 1: so we don't have a verdict, mistrial of some sort

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Speaker 1: or other. U and I would be stunned if he's acquitted.

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Speaker 1: If everybody agrees, oh, beyond a reasonable doubt, he did

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Speaker 1: not commit this murder. I would be very surprised by

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Speaker 1: That's the only result that would surprise me at this point. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Merrick Garland testified, and we played some of the cuts

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Speaker 1: because he was lambasted pretty significantly by many of the

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Speaker 1: Republicans that were asking him questions. We didn't touch on

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Speaker 1: this angle, which I did think was significant. In particular,

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Speaker 1: he was asked about whether or not we could label

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Speaker 1: the Mexican drug cartels which are bringing so much fentnyl.

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Speaker 1: Should I say fentnyl or fentnyl. There's is a correct pronunciation,

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Speaker 1: we're going to pronounce it like everybody else does. But fentanyl.

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Speaker 1: was invented in nineteen fifty nine by doctor Paul Jansen

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Speaker 1: and Jansen Pharmaceutical created a whole range of phenomenal, phenomenally

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. We've said this on the show for some time,

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Speaker 1: and I do, I'm a dad, but there is a difference.

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Speaker 1: reason for mixing this in is that fentanyl is so

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Speaker 1: again we're drastically under discussing what ravages this is doing

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Speaker 1: to our community. Yesterday, Marek Garland was testifying and he

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Speaker 1: was asked about designating designating Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he said, Mexican drug cartels should they be

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Speaker 1: us effectively? With our finnols. They are helping us, but

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Speaker 1: they could do much more, There's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: I understand and Trump has given voice to this as well.

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Speaker 1: look at inaggregate numbers, they're killing more people in the

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Speaker 1: But it's a very different problem set when you're talking

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Speaker 1: power and balance and racism and sexism, and that's got

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Speaker 1: to be exhausting after a while. Yeah, and Buck, I

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Speaker 1: know we make fun of the fact that you're younger

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Speaker 1: than me, but I'm forty three, you're forty one, Is

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Speaker 1: that right. I'm about to be forty four next month,

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Speaker 1: so we're about three years apart. I do feel like,

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Speaker 1: and I understand people of different ages have different ideas

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Speaker 1: about what their generation represents. I feel like people around

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Speaker 1: your end mind's age have a healthier relationship with social media,

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Speaker 1: and I'm curious if you would buy this thesis because

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Speaker 1: we mostly grew up without the internet in nineteen eighties

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Speaker 1: nineteen nineties kids, and then the internet comes into your life,

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Speaker 1: but it comes in when you've already kind of established

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Speaker 1: yourself in some way what is normal, and you're not

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Speaker 1: so old that you have no idea how the internet works,

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Speaker 1: right like that, you're just totally flummuxed and flustered by it,

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Speaker 1: but you're old enough that you have a sense of

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Speaker 1: what is real and what is not real. And what

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Speaker 1: I worry about now for my own kids is they

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Speaker 1: are so immersed in the social media universe in sort

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Speaker 1: of that AI generated artificiality, that I worry it distorts

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Speaker 1: their ability to understand the difference between the physical and

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Speaker 1: the you know, sort of ephemeral on the Internet. And

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Speaker 1: that is why I think there's so much mental illness,

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Speaker 1: which is directly what we talked about. I think one

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Speaker 1: day when you were out, I opened up the show

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Speaker 1: talking about the fact that I believe the data is

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Speaker 1: buck thirty percent of teenage girls had in the last

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Speaker 1: year I thought about killing themselves. Thirty percent, well, nearly

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Speaker 1: one in every three teenage girls has thought I wish

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Speaker 1: I'm interested in killing myself. I mean that is a

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Speaker 1: that is a profound societal sickness. Yes, there's something deeply wrong.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned this and I wanted this. This is

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Speaker 1: from Science Direct. It is in a peer published on

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Speaker 1: a peer reviewed journal, the Politics of Depression. This was

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Speaker 1: just published in December of twenty twenty two, so recently.

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Speaker 1: The Politics of Depression. Diverging trends in internalizing symptoms among

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Speaker 1: US adolescents by political beliefs, written by a bunch of

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Speaker 1: presumably left wing academics, and they're what they're saying is, hey,

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Speaker 1: I think we need to figure out something here, because

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Speaker 1: even if you switch the genders around, by the ways,

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Speaker 1: the most unhappy people in the sixteen to eighteen age group,

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Speaker 1: of course, and this is a thousand thousands of people

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Speaker 1: that this all this self reporting that they in this

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Speaker 1: study are very liberal females. Yeah, but conservative females are

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Speaker 1: happier than very liberal or liberal males. Right, So even

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Speaker 1: when you change it by gender, there is something in

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Speaker 1: the political belief system of the left put us, put

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Speaker 1: us what we always talk about, which is their ideas

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Speaker 1: don't work. It makes everybody less safe, it makes everybody

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Speaker 1: more poor, it made all these things. It makes people miserable.

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Speaker 1: And I really see this. I see this from I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, you look at you know, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get too crazy here, but you know, you look

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Speaker 1: at so many of the people that we work with

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Speaker 1: and know on the right who are in this media game,

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Speaker 1: and they're really nice people. They really care about their families,

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Speaker 1: they really try to hold it all together, you know

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Speaker 1: they Now, look, these are huge generalizations. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: people can try to pick them apart. The people that

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Speaker 1: I see on the left who are on the absolute

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Speaker 1: vanguard of their ideological system are generally miserable people. That's

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Speaker 1: just what I see. I think, And this is such

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Speaker 1: a big discussion. We could probably open up phone lines

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Speaker 1: on this, especially in as we're moving to the second hour.

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Speaker 1: But to close out this first hour, I think one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest challenges that we are dealing with in

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Speaker 1: society in general. And I'm saying this is a man

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Speaker 1: so I could be completely wrong. In fact, I only

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Speaker 1: want female callers to react to this. Eight hundred two

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Speaker 1: A two two eight eight two. This could be you mighty,

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Speaker 1: I'm crazy on this. I think the reason why liberal

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Speaker 1: women are so unhappy is because they are being sold

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Speaker 1: on the idea that they can have everything. This girl, boss,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to dominate the world. The Beyonce we rule

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Speaker 1: the world. And the reality is women who are making

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Speaker 1: decisions and saying like, hey, I want to have a

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Speaker 1: family and I want to get married, I want to

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Speaker 1: go to college, I want to have a career, but

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Speaker 1: I also want to have a family. At some point,

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Speaker 1: the frustration on the far left becomes I was told

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Speaker 1: that I could have everything. That's what they told me.

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Speaker 1: I can have everything. And the balancing act to require

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Speaker 1: you to be able to accomplish everything as a woman

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Speaker 1: is different than you or me. Buck, Like, you just

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Speaker 1: got married at forty one. How much time did you

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Speaker 1: spend thinking I've got to get married right now if

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Speaker 1: I want to have kids. Probably not very much. Nope,

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Speaker 1: And I mean I would even say I would add

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Speaker 1: to I think what you're saying is absolutely true. I

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Speaker 1: think that young women across America need to hear this

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Speaker 1: and need to know this. I think the conservative young

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Speaker 1: women do know this, which is why they have higher

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Speaker 1: levels of happiness. They do understand, but I also think

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Speaker 1: that they're being told. I saw this so much in

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Speaker 1: of this than I think even Clay you would. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know you went to GW and around a lot

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Speaker 1: of lives and all that, But in Tennessee, I think

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Speaker 1: than you would in New York City. Certainly in Manhattan,

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Speaker 1: women are being told to compete as men in a

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Speaker 1: lot of capacities, not just in the workplace now, but

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Speaker 1: I think it leads to a lot of bad outcomes,

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Speaker 1: including misery. That's this is you know, we're taking on

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Speaker 1: a big one today. But I gotta say, this is

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Speaker 1: what I see. And that's why I only want to

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Speaker 1: hear from women, because we're two guys describing as we

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Speaker 1: see it. The data reflects what you are saying. Why

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Speaker 1: are women so much liberal women so unhappy? What do

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Speaker 1: you think? What do women think about this and why

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Speaker 1: it's occurring? And why are conservative women happier? Like? What

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Speaker 1: is going on? This is occurring conservative women and who

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Speaker 1: are talking about younger people. Now, let's say eighteen year olds.

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Speaker 1: Conservative women are happier than liberal men though, so that's

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Speaker 1: we've put out there, Hey, look I backed it up

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Speaker 1: with hashtag science from a science paper with data, and

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Speaker 1: Clay is he's leaning into it here. What do we

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Speaker 1: think about left wing ideology making Look, it's not obviously

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Speaker 1: some of you're gonna say, oh, but I know somebody

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Speaker 1: who's she's like a you know, a vegan hippie, Bernie Sanders,

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Speaker 1: loving and she's the nicest person ever. We're always talking

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Speaker 1: about in the aggregate here and buy the numbers. There's

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Speaker 1: obviously going to be exceptions. They're going to be incredibly

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Speaker 1: kind people of all kinds of political ideologies, who are

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Speaker 1: living fulfilling lives that said liberalism makes you miserable. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to Susie, who was an educator in Tennessee's got

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Speaker 1: a teenage daughter. Susie, thanks for calling in, Hi, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for taking my call. What do you think about this?

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Speaker 1: Why is it? Why is it occurring? I agree that

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Speaker 1: women are miserable because society has made it so they

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Speaker 1: have to have it, have everything, they have everything. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm nervous. So I was working in corporate world, left

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Speaker 1: via sat home mom, sacrificed a salary, a lifestyle, went

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Speaker 1: back into the corporate world after my children were in

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Speaker 1: middle school. I couldn't do it. I couldn't. I would

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Speaker 1: not leave my children all day and then for trips,

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Speaker 1: and then nobody was there to take care of my household,

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Speaker 1: or my kids or my husband. Right, So I became

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Speaker 1: an educator. I got my master's degree, a teaching degree.

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Speaker 1: I was in the school's perfect balance. I thought I

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Speaker 1: was with my kids. I was nurturing children. But still

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Speaker 1: I could have everything. I could afford everything. But I

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Speaker 1: wasn't there for my kids, and I was not happy.

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Speaker 1: And my fellow teachers. I'm a middle aged person. I

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Speaker 1: worked with a lot of young teachers who were having

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Speaker 1: their babies and giving them to daycare and going straight

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Speaker 1: back to work without without skipping a beat. And they're miserable.

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Speaker 1: They're miserable. Do you think, Susie, that women are being

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Speaker 1: told that they shouldn't be happy being moms, even if

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Speaker 1: you're highly educated and everything else, And there's a insecurity

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Speaker 1: about just being a mom, And so people are trying

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Speaker 1: to have both worlds, even if it's making them less happy.

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Speaker 1: I think there, personally, there is insecurity. I had a

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Speaker 1: lot of pushback when I left the corporate world to

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Speaker 1: take care of my children. I have an ivy lete degree.

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Speaker 1: I was told I was wasting it to raise my children.

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Speaker 1: I struggled with that, but I knew in my heart

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Speaker 1: that my children needed me. My baby needed me. He

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Speaker 1: when we hear you and thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: sharing your your perspective on this um, you know, Clay,

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Speaker 1: I often think about this. My mom gave up her

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Speaker 1: and take care of for children, of which I was one.

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Speaker 1: just my belief, but I think it was a big advantage.

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Speaker 1: I So my mom went back to work when my

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Speaker 1: sister and I were in school, but she was home

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Speaker 1: when we were young. And I will tell you this,

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Speaker 1: when we so we didn't have enough money when we

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Speaker 1: hadn't started having kids, like a lot of people out there,

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Speaker 1: So we had both parents working, myself and my wife

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Speaker 1: when when I was making enough money that she didn't

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Speaker 1: have to work anymore and could stay home. And that

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Speaker 1: was by the time we were having By the time

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Speaker 1: we had our second one, like a year old or so,

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Speaker 1: our life got a billion percent better. I can't speak

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Speaker 1: for everybody out there, but not having to have both

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Speaker 1: parents working all the time made our home life a

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Speaker 1: billion percent better. And you can look around and you

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Speaker 1: could say, hey, maybe some of these couples that came

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Speaker 1: before us, maybe they actually weren't horrible sexist troglodytes. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they just recognize that if you were going to have kids,

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Speaker 1: having one parent at home with the kids makes an

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Speaker 1: awful lot of sense. Gender roles that existed for thousands

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Speaker 1: of years before the progressives came along being great