1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome Ack in hour number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: are rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program. I 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: imagine a lot of you still out there on the 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: roads in the skies, traveling all over the place to 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: get back to wherever you were as part of your 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: holiday weekend travel. I'm down in Florida, up on the 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Panhandle thanks to the Panama City affiliate WFLA ninety six 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: point three one oh two point five. You guys can 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: see that banner if you're watching me on video. Buck 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: is down in Miami, so we're both in the Free 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: State of Florida this week. Different edges of it, however, 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: as I'm on the Panhandle and Buck is all the 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: way down in South Florida. Do you have a good 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend? Yes? 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Excellent. It was just Carrie me the dog had a 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: great time, no real obligations or anything on the schedule. 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: It's my favorite kind of weekend. Yeah, do what you 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: want weekend. 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: I love it. We did three straight days at the 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: beach down here, which I don't remember doing three straight 22 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: deep days at the beach. The boys are in mourning 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: over for those of out there, those of you out 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: there who are Atlanta Braves fans, their favorite player is 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: Ronald Acunya. He tore his acl We got that news 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: at the beach, So they have spent the past couple 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: of days in morning. But that was mean. It was awesome, 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: just a really fantastic weekend. And I knew Buck coming 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: out of Memorial Day weekend. I'm always really fascinated to 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: see the planned stories, and so this morning when I 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: woke up and I started doing the reading to get 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: ready for the show, I was not surprised that one 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: of the first stories I saw that was published at 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: five am from Politico. I understand if a lot of 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: you are not Politico readers, but Politico is the inside 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Washington d C news site that many read right up 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: there with AXI. But Politico obviously just focused on politics 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: in their lead story, with three different writers bylined on it. 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Here's the headline, Dems in full blown freakout over Biden. 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: One advisor sub headline. One advisor to major Democratic donors 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: keeps a running list of the reasons Biden could lose. 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Listen to this opening paragraph. Buck a pervasive sense of 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: fear has settled in at the highest levels of the 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: Democratic Party over President Joe Biden's re election prospects, even 45 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: among office holders and strategists who had previously expressed confidence 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: about the coming battle with Trump. And here's what they say. 47 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: The gap. This is not going to be a surprise. 48 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: This is a direct read from the article. The gap 49 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: between what Democrats will say on TV or in print 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: and what they'll text their friends has only grown as 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: worries have surged about Biden's prospects. You don't want to 52 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: be that guy direct quote who's on the record saying 53 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: we're doomed, or the campaign's bad, or Biden's making mistakes. 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be that guy, said a Democrat operative 55 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: in close contact with the White House. But Biden's poor 56 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: polling is creating a freak at freak out. This isn't 57 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: this is a great quote. Oh my god, Mitt Romney 58 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: might become president. It's oh my god, the democracy might end. 59 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: And there's so much detail in here, the fact that 60 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: they that Trump is now out raising him, the fact 61 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: that there's so many different aspects of this. They've spent 62 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars in battleground states. They are having 63 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: real difficulty now raising money, and again the polls have 64 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: not worked. The panic is setting in. So if there 65 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: were to be a not able to get a verdict 66 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: in this case, and then you follow it up, remember 67 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: next week, Hunter Biden goes on trial for his gun 68 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: charges and is likely to get hit with a felony. 69 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: It's not only that the lawfair is blowing up in Democrats' faces, 70 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: it's that Joe Biden's own son is almost assuredly going 71 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: to be considered a felon by next week. And this 72 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: has a lot of people super nervous. So my thought 73 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: is June twenty seventh for Biden, now buck is make 74 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: or break. I still think there's gonna that there's possibility 75 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: they're going to throw him off the boat. I like that, 76 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: you st I don't want to say this to I 77 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: don't want them to do it because I think Biden 78 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: is such a weak candidate. I want him to be 79 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: the nominee. But I think the panic is growing to 80 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: the point where if he's bad on that June twenty 81 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: seventh debate, I think there's trouble brewing. 82 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: There's no mechan should we go through this all? Everybody 83 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: one more time. 84 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: You get it. You don't believe there's anybody powerful enough 85 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: to force him out. 86 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: There is no mechanism through which they could do this. 87 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: They're going think about this. They already moved the DNC 88 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: convention clashing with Ohio state law. And if Ohio didn't 89 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: change the laws, which I guess that's underway because of 90 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: Mike the Wine, they would not have Biden on the 91 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: ballot there. You know, there are processes here too. It's 92 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: not just like you know, poof, we have a new 93 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: person who's at the top of the ballot there. It's 94 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: not like there's a person who is the case. I mean, 95 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: quite honestly, if you're first of all, if it's not Biden, 96 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: it's Kamala that's why you have a vice president. There 97 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 2: is no way that you always talk about the fractured 98 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: Democrat or the fracturing of the Democrat coalition, The risk 99 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: that they take with the the absolute core of the 100 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: Democrat Party, which is consistent black female voters who vote 101 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: Democrat right, The risk they take by skipping over Kamala 102 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: Harris and putting in like Gavin Newsom or something that 103 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: that's just a non starter. I know people say Michelle 104 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 2: Obama is a way to get around this, but you'd 105 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: have to have a unanimity within the party at the convention, 106 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: which you will not have. It'll be a messy fight 107 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: of a situation. You have to be convincing everybody not 108 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: only that Biden shouldn't be at the top of the ticket, 109 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: but that Kamala the vice president, should. 110 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: Not take over. I mean, the whole point. 111 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: Of a vice president is that if for some reason 112 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: the president can't do it, and that's obviously what they 113 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: would say. 114 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: I think even at. 115 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: This point, they wouldn't say our guy can't get it 116 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: done in the election. They would say that there's you know, 117 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: we realize now because of the challenges they try to 118 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: mold it together, because of the challenges of his schedule 119 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 2: and everything. His age has caught up to him. YadA YadA. 120 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: We need somebody else. It has to be uh Kamala 121 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: Harris who steps in at that point, because then it 122 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: just shows that the whole thing is a political calculation 123 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: and they're throwing out the system and the incumbancy that 124 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: they have. But this is my whole point, They're not 125 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: gonna do it because if they do it, they're ensuring 126 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is going to win. 127 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing. Let's think about this. You're 128 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: you're proseketting this guy. 129 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: You got the cases going against him, and your guy 130 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: can't even make it across the finish line to try 131 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: to run again while he's the president. I mean, the 132 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: optics of this are terrible. So that's just for me. 133 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: Oh but I was gonna say though, and this will 134 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: get people fired up ready for this, Wing Clay, you 135 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: know who the likeliest person is if you're talking, if 136 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: you're talking about the parachute situation, and I think you 137 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: get one hundred to one odds on this one or 138 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: one to one hundred odds whatever. I think you get 139 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: one to one hundred odds on this one. Like it's 140 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: a one percent chance that this could happen, meaning that 141 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: anyone is replacing Biden and Kamala Kamala replacing Biden, I've 142 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: always said could happen. 143 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm one on this one for a one. Okay, James, 144 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: you get paid off at one hundred to one, Yeah. 145 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: One hundred to one. I think you get a hundred. 146 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: You would have one hundred and one odds on this one. 147 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: You know who I think the person would be Hillary Clinton. 148 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: I think it's likelier to be Hillary Clinton than it 149 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: is to be Michelle Obama. I think it's likely to 150 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: be Hillary Clinton than anybody else on the Democrat side 151 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: of things. She would say, Uh, you know, I'm here 152 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: to finish the job for Joe. We've known each other forever. Uh, 153 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen was a fluke. And and you know, the 154 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: if she'd mentioned some stuff about Russia and I'm here 155 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: to I don't. I would only serve one term or something. 156 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: I know, I'm old sacred democracy, YadA, YadA. Look, I 157 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 2: don't think this is going to happen either, But I'm 158 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: just saying, if you're talking total collapse of the Biden 159 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: ticket and they did, I then Hillary Clinton. They still 160 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: they still think that they're ready for her or whatever 161 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: the slogan was, like they now I don't think this 162 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: is Just to be clear, I think none of this 163 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: is going to happen. But to me, that's a far 164 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: likelier situation than when people are talk with Gretchen Whitmer, 165 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: Like no one knows how Gretchen Widmer polls and the like. 166 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: This whole thing is crazy. 167 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom's a snake. 168 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: I actually think if they were so pretend that if 169 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama said no, because I think that's how you 170 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: get over the black woman angle, which is why I've 171 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: been arguing they draft her, they bring her in at 172 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: the last minute. What I would say is Gretchen Whitmer 173 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: or Josh Shapiro in the battleground states the only route 174 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: right now if you look at the polling and if 175 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: I understand people out there saying I don't trust the 176 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: poll okay, granted, but a lot recently so just to refair, 177 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: and then when they're all telling the same story, yes, 178 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: could there be an exaggeration? Could Trump only be up uh, 179 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 1: you know, in in in in in Georgia. Could he 180 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: only be up three or four instead of seven or eight? Yes, okay, 181 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: I can see that. But remember when he's outside the 182 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: margin of error in many of these states. Right now, 183 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: it looks like you have to win Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. 184 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: If I were just sketching for the Democrats, the best 185 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: scenario for them, I think it would be Shapiro Whitmer. 186 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: If Michelle Obama says no, Gavin Newsom, I don't buy into, 187 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris would get beat worse. If you took two 188 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: popular governors in the Midwest. Shapiro has got a very 189 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: high approval rating right now. I can't believe it, but 190 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: Michigan Anders have given Gretchen Whitmer decent, decent support. If 191 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: you look at the data, Whitmer seven or eight points 192 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: ahead of Biden in the state of Michigan. If you 193 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: could win those two and then you find a way 194 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: to get Wisconsin, you're gonna win the presidents. 195 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: But you have no way of making Gretchen Whitmer and 196 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: Jos Shapiro the top of the presidential ticket unless you're 197 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: going to somehow have well. You would free up you 198 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: would free up all the delegates, right, That's what would 199 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 2: have to happen. 200 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: Biden would say, I'm not running. I don't have the 201 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: physical capacity. I am not I mean Linda Johnson sixty eight. 202 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: He would do it after I think it would have 203 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: to be a disastrous performance. On June twenty seventh, he 204 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: would say, the state of the nation's too high. I 205 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: don't have the ability to do this, and we're going 206 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: to have an open, contested convention and Democrats are going 207 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: to pick the best candidate to beat Trump. I agree 208 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: with you, I don't think it's Gavin Newsom. I don't 209 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: think it's Kamala Harris. I don't think it's JB. Pritzker. 210 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: If I'm looking at this strategically and Michelle Obama says no, 211 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: because I think she's by far the best option, then 212 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: the next best option is Shapiro in Pennsylvania and Whitmer, 213 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: some combination of a Midwest ticket that would win those 214 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: two states. 215 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: But it's going to be Biden. I don't know what 216 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: else to say. It's just it's I've told you this all. 217 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: All you have to see on June twenty seven. What 218 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: if Biden fell walking on to the stage. Do you 219 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: think nothing then. 220 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: Eleve, Kamala Harris, the the the issue of a floor fight, 221 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: and and the different factions. You gotta remember there's all 222 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: these people who are pure egomaniacs who are in politics. 223 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean, do you really think you really think, like, 224 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: what's her name, the fake Native American Elizabeth Warren. You 225 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: think that she's gonna. 226 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: Just say okay, like what's best for the party. I'm 227 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: just gonna stand aside. 228 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 2: No, she's gonna start pounding the table. 229 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold Wall Street accountable. You know, she's gonna 230 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: do all the stuff that she I agree it would 231 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: be riveting television, but I think that's what they're gambling on. 232 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: So but think about what. 233 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 2: You throw the party in the disarray, you throw it 234 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 2: into a royal rumble situation. While and this is the 235 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: key thing, while you have an incumbent president, right, You're 236 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: you're bringing this all on yourself as a party. I 237 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: think the power of the incumbency is being underestimated here 238 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: because as things get closer and Democrats are piling in 239 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: more and more money and more and more dollars, and 240 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: you know, we'll see how people are feeling. I think 241 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: the economy, because of inflation, they can't hide what's really 242 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: going on the way that they would like to. And 243 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: I don't think that's likely to change. But I think 244 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: that there's a I think we're underestimating the machine here 245 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: a little bit, just because things look great in May 246 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: and things can change really fast. 247 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: The Democrats what that's why, Buck. I think the fact 248 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: that the Politico piece says they've spent twenty five million 249 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: dollars in the battleground states. That's a lot of money 250 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: to spend, and the numbers have gone down. I just 251 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: think that what Democrats are recognizing is a lot of 252 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: people have made up their mind and they know Trump 253 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: and they know Biden, and nothing is moving the numbers. 254 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: And at some point you have to start to say, Okay, 255 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: if nothing's moved the numbers yet, what are the levers 256 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: we're going to pull that's going to change the calculus 257 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: that exist right now. And the fact that they would 258 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: write that political piece, which is typically a left leaning site, 259 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: that they would write that piece on the Tuesday coming 260 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: out of Memorial Day and basically say, hey, there's a 261 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: full blown panic going on. The timing on it's super 262 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: interesting to me. 263 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: I think we agree that if they if they convict 264 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: Trump in New York, I think it politically helps them 265 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: if they nationally speaking, Yeah, what if they actually put 266 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: them in a cell? 267 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: Oh, we need to talk about it, because there's a 268 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: report that they're seriously conducting discussions about it. 269 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: They sure are, Everybody, we haven't really discussed this, we 270 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: haven't put that scenario out there a lot. 271 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: We've talked about it. But what if that's the move They. 272 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: Are charging him with thirty four felonies, which is completely insane. 273 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: I think he could theoretically serve one hundred and fifty 274 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: years or something. But obviously it you know, it would 275 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: be like a year. But a year would be all 276 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: that need, right, or six months would be all they need. 277 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 278 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: I I their desperation. We cannot underestimate what the Democrat 279 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: Commies are willing to do given the situation that they're in. 280 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: That's that's just every day, that's what I'm thinking. 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Welcome back in Clay, 348 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out 349 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: with us. As we are rolling through the Tuesday edition 350 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: of the program, the defense has effectively rested. I believe 351 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: they have finished their closing argument and Trump is out 352 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: on the lunch break of the case and talking to 353 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: the media. Now we are monitoring in the event that 354 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: something arises from that, the prosecution will then make its 355 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: final case, and the idea is that the case will 356 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: be complete by the end of today. Now, typically Wednesday 357 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: has been an off day for the jury. I'm guessing 358 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: again yesterday was the holiday. I'm guessing that they will 359 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: give staff. You guys can look up on this. I 360 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: haven't seen a report on whether they will officially go 361 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: to the go to begin the jury deliberations tomorrow and 362 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: maybe even try to get it done before the end 363 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: of the week. That would be my guess, but that 364 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: remains to be seen because Wednesday has typically been a 365 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: day when these guys are are not appearing. So just 366 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: kind of put a pin in that and pay attention 367 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: to it as we continue to follow it. Buck, you 368 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: raised a question that we have talked about for a 369 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: couple of years off and on on this show, because 370 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: it's so crazy since the charges began, they have a 371 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: CBS News has got a story up about the discussions 372 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: that have been going on between the Secret Service and 373 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: the New York officials, which Eric Adams has addressed and 374 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: talked about that would be necessary to occur if Trump 375 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: was actually put into jail. Now, the case is over 376 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: effectively in terms of gag order violations or anything associated 377 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: with that. And so what exactly this would look like 378 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: remains to be seen. But I'm reading from CBS. If 379 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: the jury finds Trump guilty, it's difficult to predict that 380 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: say what exactly will occur. And we've talked about this 381 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: with Andy McCarthy, and I'm reading from this article. According 382 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: to former Manhattan prosecutor Duncan Levin, there is a judges 383 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: have brought authority to determine when sentences are handed down. 384 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: And I said this a while back. My concern Buck 385 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: is that now that it's likely that this is the 386 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: only bite at the apple they're gonna get from a 387 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: criminal perspective, if there is a conviction, I really think 388 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: they may try to put Trump in prison as soon 389 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: as they possibly can speedwalk this whole thing and try 390 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: to put him in prison while the trial's actually going on. 391 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: Now do you buy that? Point one? I'm concerned that 392 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: they would. Point two if they did it. Is it 393 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: actually so politically damaging that they might tell Judge merchand No, 394 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: you can't do that, because my thought is putting Trump 395 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: in risen over this in the middle of a presidential 396 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: campaign actually would work very much to Trump's benefit, even 397 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: though it would keep him off the trail. Does that 398 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: make sense? How do you assess the probability, the likelihood, 399 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: and the political impact of what was once kind of 400 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: a crazy idea to even discuss. 401 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: I think that you have to see this to the 402 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 2: degree that it's possible through the lens of people who 403 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: are irrational and emotionally compromised. Because anybody who really believes 404 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: that Donald Trump is going to end the country and 405 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: end our republic, our democracy, all that stuff is not 406 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: of sound mind right now and is really subject to 407 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: a mass hysteria. I mean, they they're in a place 408 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: where I think they're incapable of sound and reason judgment 409 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: on this issue. They may seem normal in a lot 410 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: of other things, but they cannot look at this for 411 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: what it is and come to a logical or fair 412 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 2: minded conclusion. So with that in mind, yeah, I don't 413 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: think you can rule it out. And also, so people 414 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: become desperate, and they do desperate things, And the polls 415 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: right now are indicative of very desperate Democrats. If I 416 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: were a Democrat, like if I had been hired, this 417 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: will never happen. 418 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: I promise. 419 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: If I had been hired to be a Democrat strategist 420 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: in this election cycle right now, I'd be having warroom meetings, 421 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: so to speak about we got to shake it up. 422 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: We gotta do something. We can't let this situation continue 423 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: as it is. There's a lot of things you can 424 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: say about locking up the president, even for or former president, 425 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: even for a few days. But one thing that's definitely 426 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: true is it would change things up a bit. It 427 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: would change up the focus, and you would have visuals 428 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: of him. I think going into a prison situation, a 429 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: holding facility. Do they have the I mean, Clay, let 430 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 2: me just take a step back. It was crazy. I 431 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: remember speaking to before a single prosecution happen, and speaking 432 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: to two former US attorneys general, and they were both 433 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: said to me, this is after the mar Lago ray. 434 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: They both said to me privately, they're going to prosecute 435 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: this guy, and this is insane. Yeah, they couldn't process. 436 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: They knew it was coming, but they even couldn't process 437 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: how insane it was that they were actually going. 438 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: To do that. 439 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: And now here we are, they're actually they did the prosecution. 440 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: We're in the middle of it. 441 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: We're about to find out what the verdict is, do 442 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's so hard to draw 443 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: a line in the sand because they've kicked through so 444 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 2: many lines drawn in the sand. 445 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: I think that they may house arrest him, which you've 446 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: talked about in an effort to keep him off of 447 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: the campaign trail, but then also be able to say, oh, 448 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: we're actually being super generous in not trying to put 449 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: him in prison, because I think they recognize that trying 450 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: to put him in prison politically would up on them. 451 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: And I think the idea you would think, and I 452 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: think the idea of putting him in Trump Tower or 453 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: in mar A Lago. It's a gilded existence, you see it, 454 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: but under house arrest. 455 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: Here I am ankle bracelet on the most beautiful apartment 456 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: in all of New York City, though three floor is amazing. 457 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: Look at all the gold, look at all the gildedness. 458 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: It's amazing. We're gonna win this election. Horrible Democrats house arrested. 459 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: I mean, still very good food, very nice accommodations. Is 460 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: that so crazy that it can't happen? No, I can't 461 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: tell you that that won't happen. 462 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: And I think the odds of it happening has accelerated 463 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: because I really do think the initial idea was we're 464 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: going to have him in trial the entire fall, the 465 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: entire summer, and we're going to keep him off the 466 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: campaign trail. As a result, Now, if they get an arrest, sorry, 467 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: if they get a conviction, they may well say house 468 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: arrest and then try to argue that they're being super 469 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: beneficial because you know what would happened. All of the 470 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: left wing political analysts would go on and talk about 471 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: how Trump is getting far more lenient treatment pop I 472 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: ever would have deserved, right, They would have their talking points. 473 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: You can hear them saying it on MSNBC. 474 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: It will never be enough for them, by the way, 475 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: the MSNBC audience, there will be people if Trump is convicted, 476 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: and even if they were to put him in let's 477 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: say house arrest, they'd be saying that he shouldn't be 478 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: treated differently at all. There's nothing in the law that 479 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: prevents him from being held in general population. And I 480 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: know people would say, what about Secret Service protection. They'd say, well, 481 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: the Secret Service could still be there with them. 482 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: I guess you know. 483 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: They'll say insane things. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter 484 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: how crazy it is, it just has to feed the 485 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 2: need that a large portion, certainly of the coastal Democrat 486 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: voting block, they have a need to hear the most 487 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 2: negative and awful things about Trump possible, and the idea 488 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: that maybe they've just been diluted this whole time and 489 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: need to calm down, touch grass, as the millennials say, 490 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: just chill that curse to them. 491 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: I think that you have to be prepared out there 492 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: for anything to happen. 493 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: Now. 494 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm still cautiously optimistic that somebody out there is a 495 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: patriot on this jury and will actually apply the law 496 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: and recognize that this case has not been proven beyond 497 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: a reasonable doubt and refuse to convict. Maybe there will 498 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: be multiple of those individuals, and if that ends up happening, 499 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: then all of this can still be avoided. And really 500 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: then everything will have blown up in the Democrats' faces, 501 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: and you could see a situation where you go from 502 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: a failure to convict. And I do think buck, how 503 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: long does merchand insist that this jury continue to talk 504 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: it out before they recognize, hey, we've come to a 505 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: hung jury. Nobody's going to change their minds. I think 506 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: that's a detail that hasn't been much discussed that all 507 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: of you should think about. 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We've 550 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: got Alex Barnson, Remember the guy who was saying this 551 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: stuff about the vaccines and about the masks and all that, 552 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: who was right and who was attacked by the Biden 553 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: administration both directly and indirectly, and attacked by the Democrat 554 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: legacy media and all. 555 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: The rest of it. 556 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: We're going to have him with us. We're going to 557 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: have him joining us, so we have something to talk 558 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: to him about. With Fauci, who I have not neither 559 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: forgotten nor forgiven. I have neither forgotten nor forgiven, Anthony Fauci, 560 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: you're looking at me like you want to say something. 561 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 3: No. 562 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: I think some of the things that Alex is going 563 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: to say, because so many people have moved on from COVID, 564 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: they just want to pretend it didn't happen. I think 565 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: some of the things he's going to say is going 566 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: to stagger or some of you because the media is 567 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: not covering many of the revelations that are coming out. 568 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: Steve in Pensacola Beach, Florida, Steve, what's going on? 569 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: Gentlemen. We've spoken before about the gun charge and may 570 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 3: servant with Conrad Black in federal prison, and I just 571 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: wanted to clarify even if he even if Trump is convicted, 572 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: which I do not believe he will be, and they 573 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 3: put him in house arrest, he will still be able 574 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 3: to campaign. They will not be able to restrict his 575 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: ability of doing his job. 576 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask you this, Steve, Sorry, sorry 577 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: to cut you off. I know that under house arrest 578 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: you're able to do your job, but usually your job 579 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: is in the vicinity in which you are under house arrest. 580 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: So you're saying you think the house arrest terms would 581 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: allow him to, say, fly, fly from mar A Lago 582 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: to Phoenix, Arizona, to do a big rally, or to 583 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: Milwaukee or to like I've not seen I'm gonna be candid, 584 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: I've not seen house arrest that would allow someone to 585 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: cross state lines where you're you know, going all over 586 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: the country effectively, you. 587 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: Have, yes, absolutely, if that is his job in which 588 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: it is obviously is communication and going out there. And 589 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: as a presidential candidate, his job is to go out 590 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: there and do those specific things. They cannot restrict him 591 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: by the constitution of I should say they cannot restrict him. 592 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: I shouldn't say this. 593 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: Wait, but what would be the point of house arrest 594 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: then at all? Like if you know what, yeah, what 595 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: would you see? That's a great bucks asking. 596 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 3: That's why I don't think that will be a I 597 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: don't think that's going to be a qualifier. I don't. 598 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to be able to do 599 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: that because they realize that you cannot restrict somebody's Does that. 600 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: Mean no punishment or does that does that mean no 601 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: punishment or incarceration? 602 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think there will be restrictions on what he 603 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 3: could do. He could go specifically to that rally, come 604 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: back specifically to where he is located, go to a 605 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 3: specific rally, come back to that specific location. So they 606 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: can't sit there and say, well, you can't. His living 607 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: is obviously going to be as president. 608 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: Of Well, I can tell you that the Trump if 609 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: it happens, If it happens, the Trump ankle monitor photos 610 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: are going to be iconic, just like the mugshot photo. 611 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: John, So that defeats the entire purpose of house arrest, 612 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: which I again I'm skeptical that they would allow that, but. 613 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that, John, and Roaring Spring, Pennsylvania. John, 614 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: what have you got? 615 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 4: The Bible says if you do something wrong, you have 616 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 4: to stand face to face with your accuser. With Trump, 617 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 4: they neither define the crime nor let him know what 618 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: he did wrong. How can they get away with rationing 619 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 4: for that? And then, well, you raise a good. 620 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: Point, John, I mean they haven't even said thank you, 621 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: John for calling it. I mean this is this should 622 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: hold this whole thing. When I say should never should 623 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: have been brought, we know that they held it. They 624 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: shouldn't have done that. The judge is stacking the deck 625 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: against Trump. 626 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: We know that. 627 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: But on top of all of it, it's a misdemeanor. 628 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: The act that he committed is a allegedly is a misdemeanor, 629 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: which is like a no big deal, and they're making 630 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 2: it seem much much more serious and creating a felony, 631 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 2: which also extends the statute of limitations, by the way, 632 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: by saying that he violated a federal law. 633 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: But they don't have to prove or even say what 634 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: the federal law is well. And this is why I 635 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: think this is going to get tossed on appeal, because 636 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: it's when you are in a criminal trial, in order 637 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: to provide the best possible defense to your client, you 638 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: need to know all of the elements of the crime 639 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: that are required to be proven or disproven. And I 640 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: just think what they're doing here is is not workable. 641 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: I think that's the case. 642 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: By the way, we've got some VIP emails in and 643 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: remember you can go to claymonb dot com becoming VIP. 644 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: You can also go to Crockett Coffee dot com and 645 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: get some delicious coffee for yourself, which you should definitely do. 646 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: Please subscribe join the Crockett team here and uh, we 647 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: have Matt writing and vip Matt. 648 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: Is it me? 649 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: Or was de Niro comparing nine to eleven and the 650 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: Terrorist to Trump? I wonder how these families would feel 651 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: about this comparison. I think that's right. We kind of 652 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: didn't mention because there's so much to talk about. 653 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: With Dedaniro. 654 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: I think Daniro was saying he was like, hey, look 655 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: at here the Tao. It was bad terrorist Trump is 656 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: a terrorist. I mean, that was sort of what he 657 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: was going for there. It was weird, like end of 658 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: democracy from al Qaeda is like the end of democracy 659 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: from Trump or something. 660 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: I think it was such a bad argument that I 661 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: didn't even pick up on. I thought he was just 662 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: talking about the challenges that New York had overcome, including 663 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: right by where we are nine to eleven. But it 664 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: is a very strange but he peopleted to Trump. 665 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: I mean, to be fair, people, Trump very rapidly from 666 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: you know, nine to eleven, New York we had to 667 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 2: overcome this. And he said something about, you know, threat 668 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: to democracy. And then he did say Trump wants to 669 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: destroy the city, destroy the country. 670 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: And destroy the world. 671 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: Kind of sounds like al Qaeda is bumperstick. 672 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: And the challenge why I think the de Niro crazy 673 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: argument that not really registering that worked better when he 674 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: hadn't already been president. Now he has, and most of 675 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: you out there you liked what he did when he 676 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: was in president when he was president, and we'll talk 677 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: with Alex Bearnson about this, But nobody seems to be 678 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: blaming any politician or COVID. No one lost their job 679 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: at all over this. No one won a election at 680 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: all over this. This was the Ron DeSantis campaign, But 681 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: some of this COVID stuff you need to hear. The 682 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: latest from Alex Barnson