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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Zaaren girl not much. It was ridiculous. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I do you look like your face looks like.

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Speaker 3: My face is ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: What's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Christopher McTaggart rude dude sent us a message on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Mister McTaggart, has happened almost ten years ago. Now where

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Speaker 3: were you when you heard that Leonard Nimoy died?

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Speaker 2: I was, Actually, this is an interesting question. I was

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Speaker 2: with missus Leonard Nimoy pillow No. I was helping with

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Speaker 2: the grieving process. I'm a minister, Elizabeth. I thought you

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Speaker 2: knew that, and my focus is space. So the family

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Speaker 2: came to me and they said, Zaren, we need you

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Speaker 2: to help us with this transition here. I said, space,

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Speaker 2: it's the final frontier.

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Speaker 4: You're a death duel and death is the real final

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Speaker 4: front is it is?

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Speaker 3: So he passed away? I spoiler?

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Speaker 2: What happened with this?

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Speaker 3: Well, there there was already this thing going on in Canada,

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Speaker 3: but like his death kind of like right, I guess,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, is any cling on or something? One

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Speaker 3: of them he's a little elf, yeah, exactly, So there

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Speaker 3: is this thing going on in Canada called spocking spoking.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's what's spocking.

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Speaker 3: Spoking is there's a five dollars bill. It has a

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Speaker 3: portrait of Prime Ministers Sir Alfred Laurier on it, and

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Speaker 3: he kind of looks a little bit like Leonard Meimoy.

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Speaker 3: So people started drawing on the bill a picture, right,

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Speaker 3: that's really good.

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Speaker 2: That's better than the bill Murray five dollars bill with

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Speaker 2: the Lincoln.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this will this will be an Instagram story where

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Speaker 3: we put the what's ridiculous? But you can see, like

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Speaker 3: some of them, he's doing the live long and prosper

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Speaker 3: hand and all they do is like give him that

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Speaker 3: goofball haircut and like mess with the eyebrows and do

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Speaker 3: the ears. Anyway, I think that that's kind of ridiculous,

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Speaker 3: but it's not illegal. Yeah, you can draw in.

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Speaker 2: It, but they Canadian money.

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Speaker 3: This is the some bank. Bank of Canada said it's

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Speaker 3: not illegal to write or make other markings on banknotes

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Speaker 3: because neither the Bank of Canada Act nor the Criminal

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Speaker 3: Code deals with mutilation or defacement of banknotes. But the

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Speaker 3: Bank of Canada feels that writing and markings on banknotes

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Speaker 3: are inappropriate because they are a symbol of our country

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Speaker 3: and a source of national pride. So they're saying, like,

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Speaker 3: it's not illegal, but isn't there money called the looney

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Speaker 3: But apparently, you know, you could try using it and

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Speaker 3: it could negate its legal tender status, so someone might

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Speaker 3: not take it.

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Speaker 2: It becomes art once you draw on it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you can, you know, stick it on

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Speaker 3: a wall in charge eight million.

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Speaker 2: Dollars for it. Is ridiculous, Elizabeth, You know what else

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Speaker 2: is ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: I would love to know.

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Speaker 2: Well, Okay, there's this guy named Crazy Mike and he

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Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. He's a stuntman. That's not the ridiculous part.

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Speaker 2: He has a brother, also a stuntman. He's named High

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Speaker 3: Wait, Crazy Mike and Flying Ryan. Oh, Mama, tried.

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Speaker 2: Still not the ridiculous part. It looks like it right,

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Speaker 2: it's like right on the face of it, But Nope.

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Speaker 2: To get all the way there will require motorcycles, fire stunts,

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Speaker 2: bank robbery, and the FBI. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, This is Ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and

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Speaker 5: outrageous capers, hi and cons.

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Speaker 2: It's always ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent ridiculous. Live Moss, Elizabeth Live Moss. As you know, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: I always wanted to be a stunt man. I talked

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Speaker 3: Call you an amateur stunt man.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, because I don't get paid for what I do. Now,

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Speaker 2: my heroes in the Blockbuster movies, those who do get paid,

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Speaker 2: those in the action films, the guys who always you know,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not alone in this because my man Crazy

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Speaker 2: Mike and his brother hy flyin Ryan, they felt the same. Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Now you have a brother, I have a sister. We

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Speaker 2: both grew up with siblings. Did you and your brother

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Speaker 2: Trev ever get into like the stuntman life, Like do

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Speaker 2: or like every two two of you were like ride

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did a lot of dumb stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: We did. We built a BMX jump that was like

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Speaker 3: one end was like firewood.

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Speaker 2: Oh, lord. Oh yeah, we did that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I broke my wrist.

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Speaker 3: And then on like a ten speed Oh.

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Speaker 2: God, I jumped on it firewood rolls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that it does. And we also we

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Speaker 3: that's what you get. So yeah, we did a little stunt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right now by my sister, uh, she's younger, so

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Speaker 2: she had to come like basically listen to my ideas

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Speaker 2: her she had this like a green plastic worm that

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. She still talks about it to this day,

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Speaker 2: like apparently it's a very formative event for her. The

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Speaker 2: infamous steroide with my green worm I'm like, when will

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Speaker 2: you forgive me? My point is, Elizabeth, like, when you

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Speaker 2: you often can like kind of gin each other up

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Speaker 2: in a way. The people without siblings just don't really understand.

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Speaker 2: They have nobody with a bad idea going we got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and then you have this just like you know,

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Speaker 3: My mom always said that we were like bear cubs,

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Speaker 2: Completely.

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Speaker 2: My mother always called us like insurance risks. That's when

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Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time in the ear.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, Saturdays in the ear. So you

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Speaker 2: and your brother also loved you. Guys were like us

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Speaker 2: in this regard. You love the TV show The Fall Guy.

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Speaker 2: Right reruns of that show. You've told me that you

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Speaker 2: you can sing the song? Do you do remember it?

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Speaker 3: I remember it. I can't sing it right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking you, but you can sing it, like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this weird talent where either like an eighties t

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Speaker 2: You're uncanny. I've seen you do it here in h

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Speaker 2: Q when you're like someone will like mention a lyric,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I went. I went pretty hard on ice Ice Babies.

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Speaker 3: But it was a very like intense reading of it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, speaking of did you see the new movie version

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Speaker 2: But you know Ryan Gosling, right, not personally, but I

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Speaker 2: Oh. I don't mean to brag on.

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Speaker 3: You, okay, but by Ryan Gostling and I got a

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Speaker 3: He's one of the many Ryan's.

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Speaker 2: So many Ryan's, although few were these days.

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Speaker 2: The reason I asked you to do an impression of

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Speaker 2: to get your mind right for today's story of Crazy

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Speaker 2: Mike and High Flying Ryan stuntman brothers. Yeah, crazy Mike

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Speaker 2: born in nineteen eighty seven. Crazy Mike is not what

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Government named Michael Gaboff. Now. His brother, high Flying Ryan,

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Speaker 3: Now I was kind of hoping that Ryan wasn't his name.

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Speaker 3: It was like, you know, Flenge, I just want to

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Speaker 2: Be real with me? You do? You have such a

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Speaker 3: J just called culture.

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Speaker 2: Ye'm sorry, Can let me sweat your flow? Now? These

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Speaker 2: Crazy Mike, raised in New Jersey, starting out from a

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Speaker 2: young age, obviously, they found that they both love to

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Speaker 2: pull off heroic stunts, right, crazy dumb stunts, the kind

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Speaker 2: someone who's just as crazy as you are. Check out

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Speaker 2: their past work. I went and watched a YouTube video

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Speaker 2: just filmed everything, right, So they made this compilation edit

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Speaker 2: if you will. But it's also it's a documentary because

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Speaker 2: there's a story. I'll get into that later. The but

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Speaker 2: the documentary is called Crazy Mike is Dead. No he's not.

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Speaker 2: But that's the title. It's a grabby title, right yeah,

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Speaker 2: right now, Elizabeth. The documentary movie. It starts with a

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Speaker 2: disclaimer that YouTube has previously taken down the video because

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Speaker 2: said video quote violates our child safety policy.

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Speaker 3: Whether that happened or not. That's a really great way

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Speaker 2: It off, totally. I mean, that is a marketing they're

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Speaker 2: trying to keep this.

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Speaker 3: Tell you, guys, iHeart didn't want us to hear this

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Speaker 2: Rebels like that. Now, the children at risk in this

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Speaker 2: video or obviously crazy Mike and high flying Ryan, right,

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Speaker 2: they weren't like getting other kids. Now, this video that

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Speaker 2: this documentary pretty much recounts not just Crazy Mike's like, uh,

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Speaker 2: Allen's like, get on boys, Hi flying Ryan. He puts it, quote,

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Speaker 2: That's the stuff, right. Another friend he recalled how quote

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Speaker 2: that's like the Big Brother videos, the Bammar Jerra videos

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Speaker 4: I love this, and we're back a little Where were we, Mike?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's Hollywood, New Jersey circa two thousand, before we

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Speaker 2: Because I would get up going really fast, and then

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Speaker 2: way to stick with me? Cut to older teen crazy

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Speaker 2: Right back to high Flying Ryan. We didn't care about anything.

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Speaker 2: We didn't care about anyone. We didn't even care about ourselves.

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Speaker 2: No kidding really, for real, heart, what.

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Speaker 3: There is that attitude like that? I lived with. Yes,

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Speaker 3: You didn't fear that.

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Speaker 2: They didn't think that.

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Speaker 2: No, pain is like good skaters BMX bike the guys

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Speaker 2: You know, some things really do hurt. A lot of things,

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Speaker 3: It's worth it for the experience of doing. Yes.

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Speaker 2: looks like at this point, the singer of crazy Town,

439
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 2: the guy did that song Butterfly, right, Yeah, like when

440
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 2: they were young, Like yeah, just like it's like.

441
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 3: He looks like he's early on the bill on a

442
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 3: warped tour.

443
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and exactly early on the bill on warp tour

444
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 2: is exactly what Crazy going for too, Yeah, exactly. It's

445
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 2: Sonny out and hot. So this guy Crazy Mike. He

446
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 2: says it in two thousand and three about his high jinks,

447
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: and I quote, I just do stunts because I like

448
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: doing stunts. If I see a good roof to jump

449
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 2: off of, into a good tree, into a good pool,

450
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 2: into a pond, or even with my bicycle, I'm gonna

451
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 2: do it because just because it's there now, Elizabeth, you

452
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 2: may recall this is exactly what Sir Edmund Hillary said

453
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 2: about climbing Mount Everest. But he was a first Western

454
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: to climate back in nineteen fifty three. Folks asked him

455
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: why would he want to undertake such an insane challenge

456
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: to climb a mountain whose peak is higher than the clouds.

457
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 2: Then Sir Edmund Hillary said, because it is there now,

458
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 2: Except he didn't really say that. I looked it up

459
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 2: it's actually a different climber, George Leigh Mallory, who said

460
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: in the nineteen twenties, but he also never made it

461
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 2: to the summit because he disappeared on Everest.

462
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 4: Because they have lady surnames, they get exactly so people anyway,

463
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 4: point is just like a great heroic and famous mountain climber.

464
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 2: My man crazy Mike is also compelled to do something

465
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: simply because it's there. Now. The fact that something exists

466
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: is enough to compel them once again to do battle

467
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: with gravity. So fellow stunt man Leroy Patterson wanted to

468
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: put it in more elevated terms. He said, and I quote,

469
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: I like to thank them. We're all cut from the

470
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: same cloth, all the stunt people. You know, we do

471
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: what we do for a reason that most people don't understand.

472
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: I understand, Elizabeth. I'm one of those rare folks. And

473
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 2: I gotta say I agree with him. You kind of

474
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: nailed it before. There is a sensation of feeling. Yeah,

475
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,719
Speaker 2: the adrenaline junkie thing is true. But the one thing

476
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: that killed me watching all the old footage of teenage

477
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,239
Speaker 2: crazy Mic and hype flyinge Ryan is how bad they

478
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 2: were learning from their past failures.

479
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 3: Oh that's frustrating.

480
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 2: They don't get any better. They just keep doing the

481
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,959
Speaker 2: same dumb thing. It's driving me nuts watching it. I'm like, guys, guys,

482
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 2: it was painful to watch, Like you wouldn't be able

483
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: to watch the footage, like the way you know your

484
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: sympathetic system.

485
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 3: And like the thing is, when I was younger, I

486
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 3: didn't have that problem. I loved watching the BMX stress videos.

487
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 3: I thought they were amazing. And then something happened.

488
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: You became sensitive to life, things became real.

489
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then now if I see those, I get

490
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 3: the pains in my legs.

491
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 2: I can't watch your brain finished developing. That was it,

492
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: you know, those sympathetic pain reactions you get to watching this, Yeah,

493
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: you would have been vomiting on like on the floor

494
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: by seven minutes into this video.

495
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: It was so many things, so.

496
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 2: Crazy, Mike, high flying Ryan. They just to keep they say,

497
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: they keep doing just the worst and stunts ever, like

498
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: zero safety protocols in mind, but total commitment, commitment, slim

499
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: margin of error too. It's got to like you gotta

500
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: right there, like if they if they miss, it's just

501
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: like there's nowhere else to hit.

502
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: Well, And if they're not honing their technique. That's terrifying.

503
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 2: Oh god by So by the way, as I said earlier,

504
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: like they're a slim margin of error and there's zero

505
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: safety protocols. They're crash pads. They would always be improperly placed,

506
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: like to do any real help. So it'd be like like,

507
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: for instance, their flight passed, like when they're planning how

508
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: they're going to jump, the flight pass are almost always

509
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: straight down, Like they jump out of a window and

510
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: go straight down. Like if I jump out of the window,

511
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm able to get like ten twelve, fourteen feet please,

512
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: so I can hit and roll and spend some of

513
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: that energy from the drop they do physics, They just

514
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: drop straight down. That's a great way to break an ankle, right,

515
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: which they do, so they just get They break elbows, ankles, denting.

516
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

517
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: They have all the bones. I've broken. The nickel is like.

518
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: That's a bad one, the worst. Yeah, yeah, well you

519
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: breaking knee. That's also a real past just located. But

520
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: there's some other ones. Yeah, your brother can tell you

521
00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: about that.

522
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 3: One, right, Travis dislocated his hip.

523
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got My advice to these brothers, if

524
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: you're going to pick a fight with gravity, you gotta

525
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 2: spend some time in the dojo, you know, like they

526
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 2: do not, but they give a luck in young bones

527
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: to carry them through, which I've been there, I've done that.

528
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: But eventually anyway, Hey, there's this one footage. Oh my god,

529
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: I wanted to tell you about this. Okay, this is

530
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: a perfect example. Cut to some friend of theirs driving

531
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 2: a quarter pipe down a suburban street. And by driving

532
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 2: a quarter pipe, I mean they're pushing it with a car, right,

533
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 2: And then you see crazy Mike driving a riding rather

534
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: a dirt bike at the ramp and he launches himself

535
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: over the car. Now do you think he lands it?

536
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: Of course doesn't land it just bails hard on the

537
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: street once again straight down.

538
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 3: Doesn't like there's no landing plan.

539
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no, just like jump the car and can

540
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: I do this?

541
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? We talk about this with criminals. They don't think

542
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 3: about the other side of it.

543
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 2: How do I land this and keep all my teeth? Yeah?

544
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: So he went at speed toward a a quarterpipe.

545
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 2: Had a quarter pipe between them. Yes, hit the quarter

546
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: pipe goes over it. Now cut the crazy mic Ice

547
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: skating the street by hanging off the driver's side door

548
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: of a pickup truck, just on his shoes. There's no ice.

549
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: Just seeing those videos like Saury Arabian, Yeah, the Gulf States,

550
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: they can do it. They figured it out. They're hanging

551
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: off cars that are on two wheels on that angle.

552
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: They're doing all all sorts of stuff.

553
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 3: I do like those videos.

554
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah them I a video and they're

555
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: they're sitting there like respecting the physics. You watch it.

556
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: They're balancing their low. It's amazing stuff.

557
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: That was the last like m I a that I

558
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: listened to. She's gone crazy all.

559
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: The way off the deep end. Yeah so uh Elizabeth,

560
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: As I pointed out the stunts, they bothered me because

561
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: he never seems to learn from them. It's just over

562
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: and over again. He won't even learn from nature, like

563
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: the one of the Capitol End. Like I'm like, Naser

564
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: won't allow.

565
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 3: You to do this.

566
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: Like there's there's an example a right cut to crazy

567
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 2: Mike jumping a BMX bike off of the roof of

568
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: a school. It looks like down onto frozen wintertime grass. No, right,

569
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: there's no know something about frozen wintertime grass. The soil

570
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: is going to be hard. There's not like the springy

571
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: grass of the summer where it's moisture in there from

572
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: the rains. In said, you got basically concrete with lighting.

573
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: It's the heavy sliding. I've seen guys ride BMX.

574
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: You know school, Yeah, you know how to land those things.

575
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 2: You can't do it on icy downhill grass. Do you

576
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: think he lands it? Of course doesn't land in Elizabeth,

577
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: and Steady snaps an ankle, rolls down the hill and

578
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: then the bike ragged alls away from him. So Elizabeth,

579
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 2: consider the inspiration, like if you're going to do this

580
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, like if you're going to jump off

581
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: a roof or jump off a car, you gotta considered

582
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: nature right right. The flying squirrel shows us how to

583
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: negotiate the air as a mammal with the wings, you

584
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: have to spread out, get get as much resistance air resistance,

585
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: going spot your landing, and then hit and roll. They

586
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: don't hit and roll, but that's us. We have to

587
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: hit and roll this guy. He just goes up and

588
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: then comes down.

589
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: But you're a good amateur stunt man because you're very

590
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: nimble and you have good spatial awareness. And it sounds

591
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: like they do not no, no, like they.

592
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: Do like backflips off the roof onto a pile of snow.

593
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: Then so then sometimes they go rotate too far, hit

594
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: their face. They jump straight down, as they said, out

595
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: of second story windows. I mean, yes, I know you're

596
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: a kid, but you're also doing hundreds of stunts, like

597
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: you've got to learn from some of these. Don't you

598
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: two idiots learn anything? Yeah, I mean you've crashed through tables, ladderfalls,

599
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: window jumps cars, and then they end up bruising ribs,

600
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: twisting ankles, concussing brain pants. No learning occurring anyway. But

601
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: eventually the law enters the picture and they're like, we'll

602
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: help you learn a lesson. So now you see, not

603
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: only with crazy Mike filming all his bone jarring escapades,

604
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: who's also recording his and his friend's juvenile suburban crime spreeze.

605
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: Then they would edit them together, videotape, yell all their stunts,

606
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: their pranks, late night crime sprees, and they would sell

607
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 2: them at school.

608
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: Oh good, as Elizabeth didn't take.

609
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: Long for Crazy Mike's home movies to become the must

610
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: have item at his local New Jersey school. That's kind

611
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: of amazing, right then, that gets the other kind of attention.

612
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: School administrators hear about it, They learn about the tapes,

613
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: and then one gets handed over to them. They handed

614
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: over to the police, as high flying Ryan remembers it.

615
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: Of course, the tapes got into the wrong hands, and

616
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: the next thing you know, the police are at the

617
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: school taking us all into separate rooms, interviewing us because

618
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: they saw stuff that young people shouldn't be doing.

619
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 6: Crime.

620
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 3: It's like young Elizabeth holding the tape being like, I feel.

621
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: I have to save them from themselves. One of them's

622
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: gonna die.

623
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 3: Clerk.

624
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you need to see that the video

625
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: power nerd and away, but protecting your people exactly. So,

626
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: once they document their crimes and then pass out the

627
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: evidence to their friends' entertainment, boom. Now the family has

628
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 2: to hire a lawyer because the gay Bop brothers are

629
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: charged with in decent acts due to one shot, which

630
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: I assume is the one shot off crazy Mike streaking

631
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: a basketball game. You're gonna be a sexual offender. We're

632
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: gonna put you on the list and stuff.

633
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: They know.

634
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: But they did then they that's what.

635
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: They say, saying. Yeah, but like back in the day,

636
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: they didn't. They didn't charge street.

637
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: No, no, so they did not, you're right about that.

638
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: They kick him out of school. Yeah, so then he

639
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: has to go to five different schools in a four

640
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 2: year period. They just keep kicking him out of schools.

641
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: He's poor month oh yeah, oh yeah. So after high school,

642
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: Crazy Mike is finally free to go after his dreams.

643
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: Now he can go to Hollywood, get into the pictures.

644
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: He's well trained. Yeah, he plans to become a real,

645
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: full fledged stuntman. But so, but first he's gonna go

646
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: to film school because he realized that's important. He wants

647
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: to make movies. So the first time ever he excels

648
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: in school. He's doing what he loves, movies, stunts, filming everything.

649
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: No police are getting mad at him. He's a professional daredevil,

650
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: basically a film producer or real life stunt man. He's

651
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: doing it. So he and high Fly and Ryan they

652
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: start we play crazy productions. Okay, we play crazy Elizabeth.

653
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: They filmed stunts, extreme sports, anything that can kind of,

654
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: you know, excite an audience. And then they make these

655
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: videos and they catch the attention of their industry. One producer,

656
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: this guy, Steve Schlitz or Schliz, He recalls me, first

657
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: saw crazy Mike's videos, and I was like, this guy's

658
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: a maniac. I mean, Katie's definitely crazy. Crazy. Mike definitely

659
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: stands out of a crowd. Right, So that's his impression.

660
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: He's making industry name for himself.

661
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: Right.

662
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: Cut too crazy mic saying he's gonna do a backflip

663
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: on a dirt bike. He guns the throttle, races a

664
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: poorly constructed and oh badly placed ramp, rolls off the ramp,

665
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: does the backflip. Does he land at Elizabeth? No, doesn't

666
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: land it. The dirt bike comes down, smacks him in

667
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: the head. He lands on top of a pile of

668
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: dirt and the bike lands on top of him. The

669
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: brand Echo Seasons are like, this guy, he's great, he

670
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: gets attention, so they sign him to be a content

671
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: creator for them. Oh, he starts producing videos of him

672
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: and his buddies from We Play Crazy. Right. So, imagine

673
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: two young dudes dressed as like college football mascots running

674
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: around in a field in you know, America, except they're

675
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: also on fire and they're running to a pond to

676
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: be able to put out the fire. That's a crazy

677
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: mic joint.

678
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like Johnny Knoxville has like

679
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: a cease and desist in his pocket for this.

680
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing the waves. The wave is so great

681
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: though that people at this point they're not gonna end. Yeah,

682
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: because also Jackass was kind of an imitating imitation of

683
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: some stuff that was going on in the culture and

684
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: skateboard videos, so it was a culmination. But so they're like, oh,

685
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: this is just the culture, right, and there they are

686
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: the like w c W wrestling to WWE, they are

687
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: the bitter. But it's all just a little bit exactly so.

688
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: And also, as I said early two thousands, right finger

689
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: on the pulse of this zeitgeist. He has got it.

690
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: I mean when you watch his videos, if I played him,

691
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: you could just hear the corn and Limp biscuit playing

692
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 2: over the video at it. Yeah, right, Like do you

693
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 2: like a good God Smack soundtrack, Cause they've got you covered.

694
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: So at this point, Crazy, Mike, Hyfelin, Ryan, the rest

695
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: of them we played Crazy crew are showing up on

696
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: late night clip shows right of the lesser legacy broadcasting

697
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: companies like upn Spike, Spike TV. Right yeah, right, so

698
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: they make it also eventually onto MTV's ridiculousness very fit, right,

699
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: They got some clips former skater Rob dry Deck, who's

700
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: like runs that he has about the same reaction I

701
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: do to seeing a Crazy Mike stunt and his safety

702
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: prep for it break. I'm not sure if you know

703
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 2: the show, he'll had like a panel of gas. Right,

704
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: they do a clip right, so he's got this panel

705
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: of guests the studio audience. Rob plays a clip of

706
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: Crazy Mike jumping a motorbike off of the steep embankment

707
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: into like a red clay ravine. Rob Drydeck is like,

708
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: here we go, We're just out here and boom we

709
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: see Crazy Mic gun it off the edge. Then he

710
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: ditches the bike in midair as is his way. Then

711
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: he plummets and crashed lands and what looks like a

712
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: mound of like I said, just earth like it looks

713
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: like tailings from a mining operation.

714
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

715
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: Little John who's on the panel all of the ridiculousness,

716
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: he's watching this with stuned disbelief, like, oh no, right,

717
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: and then Rob dry Deck is like, there's no water, there,

718
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: there's no sand, there's no foam pit, there's no girls,

719
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: there's no nothing, right, none of the fasts.

720
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: He's gonna land on a pile of girls. No sand,

721
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: no foam, no pile of girl.

722
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: They're kind of softly eight year old girls. So none

723
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 2: of these facts top Crazy Mike. Not even gravity can

724
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: stop them. So what do they do now? These guys

725
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: they make movies. Of course. Their first movie is called

726
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: Hella Crazy.

727
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. At this point we're in box office success.

728
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: Two thousand and six, big full on Bush ears like

729
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: very America WWE is huge. To put it in musical terms,

730
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: Elizabeth missed. New Booty by Bubba Sparks is at the

731
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: top of the music charts.

732
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

733
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: Only bigger hit that year is Crazy by NARLS. Barkley.

734
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, so just look at.

735
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: Your mind, right yeah, so.

736
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: What a terrible, terrible time.

737
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: A more innocent nation. Kind. So their movie Hella Crazy,

738
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: which is just a super cut of all their craziest

739
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: stunts and fails it. It's edited to a new metal soundtrack, right,

740
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: so it fits right in there. It's a hit. Now

741
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: like at the box office, they're selling DVDs online in

742
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: independent stores, skate shops, some music shops, head shops, that

743
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: kind of place. But two thousand and eight, Hella Crazy

744
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: is sold so well well enough that they secure a

745
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: distribution deal to put their DVDs now in Target, Circuit City,

746
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: best Buy, Barnes and Noble will sell Hella Crazy. Elizabeth.

747
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they move enough units to make Hella Crazy

748
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: two still crazy. Okay, I added that last part it's

749
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: just called crazy two, but that one also a financial hit.

750
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: So they make Hella Crazy three crazy as I want

751
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: to be again last part. Guy added that finally Hella

752
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: Crazy four to Hella too Crazy thing again.

753
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 4: Me.

754
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: Sorry, but I can't help myself. The series gets some heat, right,

755
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 2: infamous publisher of Hustler magazine, Larry Flint. Yeah, he sees

756
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: the work. He gives some praise. He calls Crazy Mike's

757
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: work it's like Jackass on drugs. I think he met

758
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: that as a compliment. Anyway. The extreme sports fans, the skaters,

759
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: the pop punk kids, what's left of the new metal crowd,

760
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: even the new emo kids, they all love Hella Crazy.

761
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: Anyone who's like, oh I love backyard wrestling. This is

762
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: like backyard wrestling but even better. Yeah, so they go

763
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: nuts to watch Crazy Mike put it all out there

764
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: for the fans. Elizabeth. There are so many clips that

765
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: would have made you empathetically vomit. We'll get into the clips.

766
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: Just imagine they're hell crazy. So anyway, Crazy Mike he's

767
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: on the come up pretty soon. It's going to be

768
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: full on like Jimmy Cagney and White Heat, like Crazy

769
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: Mic out there made him up top of the world. Right,

770
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: he's getting really cocky at this point, right, he's getting

771
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: really loud. He's trying to get a lot of attention.

772
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: They start showing up on like Doctor Phil.

773
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: Wait, yeah, you can't.

774
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: You remember he's doing he's selling clips. People are starting

775
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: to become aware of him. So, yeah, can you get

776
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: anything more early two thousands than Doctor Phil. Let's take

777
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: a little break. I'll let you think about that. When

778
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: we get back. I'll tell you why he was on

779
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: Doctor Philka all right, Elizabeth, I promise you Doctor Phil. Yeah,

780
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: all right, picture the Doctor Phil set crazy spiky hair, right,

781
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: blonde tips. Doctor Phil has them on for a public intervention.

782
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: We're gonna stop Crazy Mike. That's the call. Doctor Phil

783
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: has experts on doctors to try real doctors to try

784
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: to convince crazy Mike to stop doing his crazy stunts

785
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: and wrecking his body. Okay, because I also, I would add,

786
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 2: because you're bad at them. Yeah, but in his own defense,

787
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: crazy Mike tells the audience and specifically doctor Phil, how

788
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: do I getting hurt? You know? Like, I mean this,

789
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: this makes me happy. It's like a drug. Stunts are

790
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: like a drug to me. It's like it's my cocaine.

791
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 2: I need it to do it to live. I need

792
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: that adrenaline rush to live. I try to take safety precautions. Yeah,

793
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: I might not be professional, but I'm taking safety and

794
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: precaution now, Doctor Sphil says in a sarcastic way. Yeah,

795
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: we all saw the safety protocols with the vending machine

796
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: right now. The vending machine. It was this super viral clip.

797
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: It's why he's on Doctor Phil. Crazy Mike does a

798
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: backflip off of a vending machine. But get this, he

799
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: doesn't landed, Elizabeth.

800
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding.

801
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: He smacks the hell out of his face against the pavement. Ah,

802
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: this brain genius does the same stunt again, and get this, Elizabeth,

803
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: Crazy Mike didn't land it again, but he did yet

804
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: again smack his brains against the concrete and then he

805
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: knocks himself out. So this viral video lands him on

806
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: doctor Phil for the public intervention, and again in his

807
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: own defense, Crazy Mike tells Doctor Phil, in order to

808
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: be old and wise, first you have to be young

809
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: and stupid. So Doctor Phil's rebutted, well, that's just stupid.

810
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: So around the same time, DVDs they stop selling, right,

811
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: just as a market now because people can illegally download

812
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: Hello Crazy three and Hello Crazy four for free online.

813
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: So what's the crazy Mike to do?

814
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 3: I don't know.

815
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 2: Takes his act to the people. They start doing live events.

816
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: Cut to Girls Gone Wild style footage, but young men

817
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: doing violence to their own bodies, calling it stunts and pranks.

818
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: Right again, Elizabeth, I will spare you any of the

819
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: graphic descriptions of what went down at a We Play

820
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 2: Crazy live event, but there is this one video love

821
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: high flying Ryan standing in a field. Okay, then you

822
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: see this Dodge Econo line van barreling right at him.

823
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: Strapped to the front of the van are like two

824
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: children's mattresses, two children, no, two children's mattresses, like a

825
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: little and then the van just runs into him and

826
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: kind of over him, and they both smash into a

827
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: pyramid of empty cardboard boxes.

828
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: Wait, he just got hit by a van. Watched we

829
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: get hit by a van.

830
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: Safety and precaution, the crowd goes wild. So their live

831
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: events typically featured also some oil wrestling on an air

832
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: mattress platform. So you got two women in bikinis doing

833
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: oil wrestling, and then I never saw men doing it.

834
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: I didn't see any men because of course the men

835
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: were involved in the boxing Gloved Fight Club, So just

836
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: two guys in a field punching each other. Now for

837
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: live music, they had their own We Play Crazy official band.

838
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah they Toxic Masculinity, Yeah exactly.

839
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: It's why high Fly and Ryan put it. We get

840
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: people entertainment, no matter what it is, no matter so there, no,

841
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: it's high Flying, Ryan recalls, I mean crazy. Mike was

842
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: a getting ready to move on from this because they

843
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: were successful. So he goes out to Hollywood, takes this

844
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: show on the road, and then, as his brother recalls,

845
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: it wasn't hard for him to get work. People wanted him.

846
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: He had talent, he had character, he knew he could

847
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: perform the stunt work. He was physically fit, he was

848
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: a good looking guy. He had agents lined up. People

849
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 2: wanted to manage him, right, That's the story. And then

850
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: came the ghost Rider too stunt. He goes out to Hollywood,

851
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: starts to become a success based on all the hell

852
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: of crazy success ye, and then comes the Ghostwriter Too stunt?

853
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: What is the ghost Rider Too? God?

854
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: Please tell me.

855
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: Elizabeth, I'm so glad you asked that documentary Crazy Mike

856
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: is Dead, made by we played Crazy Productions. Well, I've

857
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: been quoting from it to a bunch And it opens

858
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: with Crazy Mike explaining this stunt to the viewer, the

859
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: one that he's going to perform, and Crazy Mike says,

860
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm jumping my motorcycle over that Crazy Mike ramp in

861
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: a ghost Rider suit into that lake that's I'm not

862
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: gonna lie, only probably about five feet deep. Oh God, Elizabeth,

863
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention. For this done, crazy Mike would

864
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: also be on fire. Well, the ghost Rider is on fire,

865
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: He's got to be on fire, so you know it's

866
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 2: a promotional event. April twenty first, twenty twelve, Crazy Mike

867
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: is in a desert east of Los Angeles working on

868
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: the promotional video for the sequel to ghost Rider Too.

869
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: The plan is for him to ride a motorcycle wall

870
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: on fire hit a super steep ramp but also super

871
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: short launch ramp and which Will jettis him, him and

872
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: the motorcycle high up into the air and he'll land

873
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: in the pond, which will extinguish the fire. I think

874
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: that's the general Cage would not approve. No, we would not.

875
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: The early safety concerns are not about the launch ramp,

876
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 2: which just looking at it, I had my safety concerns,

877
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: but it's not like what I would do. So anyway,

878
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: the most folks, they seem to be worried about the

879
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: shallowness of what they keep calling a lake, which is

880
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: actually a pond. It is a really small, shallow poddle. Yeah,

881
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: it's crazy. Mike pointed out. The pond is like five

882
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: feet at it at its deepest, right, they have like

883
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: guys walk out into it to measure how deep the

884
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: pond is. It is way out They're like, oh, let's

885
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: say it's up to my shoulders. I'm six feet, So

886
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: there you go. That's the measurements. Crazy Mike fires up

887
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 2: the motor onto the dirt bike. He takes a couple

888
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: of practice runs in shorts and running shoes. Once he

889
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: feels good about the speed he'll need to get going,

890
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: which looks to be something he's kind of just guessing at,

891
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: like there's no one on set that I can see,

892
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: like with a stunt schematic. There's nobody who's got the

893
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: speed grafts or some mock up of the physics of

894
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: the jump. It's just Crazy Mike going back and forth

895
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: a few times bred and he's like, okay, oh yeah,

896
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: I should be good. Ready to go over to wardrobe

897
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 2: for his costume, then over to hair and makeup. Once

898
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: he's got all in, all the all black leather of

899
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: the ghost Rider outfit, the chain around his chest, that's

900
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 2: where the production team is secreted a GoPro camera. Crazy

901
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: Mike holds his ghost Rider's skull head in his hands.

902
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 2: Right the production crew rolls sound.

903
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: It's just a sea of flat build Fox baseball caps.

904
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: At this point, I wish there were more of them.

905
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: I think some of them would have stopped so they

906
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: sink with the sound. With the clapboard, someone calls action.

907
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: Crazy Mike pulls on his rubber ghost Rider full on,

908
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: full head safety mask and this is it for the fire.

909
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: He climbs aboard his all black ghost Rider dirt bike.

910
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: He takes a few more practice runs, right if you

911
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: last minute wardrobe check with the costume, then all set

912
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: for the big stunt. Yeah, Crazy Mike comes tearing into

913
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: view on his dirt bike. He's on fire, flames are

914
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: licking the air behind him. He speeds towards the ramp.

915
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: He smashes through a set of long white fluorescent light bulbs,

916
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: because that's like a Hella Crazy signature move, like run

917
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: through fluorescent light bulbs. They go yeah, the sh so

918
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: they shatter into puffs of white, and then he's launched

919
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: off the ramp, goes in skyward Elizabeth, and then you

920
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 2: see Crazy Mike lose the dirt bike in midair, right,

921
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: because that's his signature move. I ain't gonna land this, yeah, Now,

922
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: Immediately people start to react. He's just left the ramp,

923
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: and you hear in the footage people they know this

924
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: is not how the stunt should be going. If he's

925
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: going right. Personally, having seen his stunt work, I can

926
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: I can't tell the difference to you going right, but whatever,

927
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: it looks like all of the stunts to me anyway,

928
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: he always ditches the bike right mid air. He never

929
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: lands it. So I'm like, I don't know, he's ditch

930
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: the bike, he's not gonna land it. But what I

931
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: can also see is he's going way too far into

932
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: the sky and too fast, so he's gonna clear the lake.

933
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, so you hear people shouting, oh oh no, whoa,

934
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: and Crazy Mic is now plummeting like a rag doll

935
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: that's on fire. Uh huh, clears sailing over the lake right,

936
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: that's actually a pond. It seems to he went way

937
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: too fast off the ramp because I remember he different

938
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: and then practice that was it. So gravity wins their

939
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: long standing fight. My man, Crazy Mike drops about sixty

940
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: feet slams back down to earth like a modern Icarus.

941
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: It's bad, Like, I don't want you to worry about Elizabeth.

942
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: He's not dead. Crazy Mic is not dead. However, this

943
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: stunt is so poorly planned. There's no one hidden in

944
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: the tree line close by for the landing spot in

945
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: case something goes wrong. So no one's ready with a

946
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: fire extinguisher. No one's ready with the blankets. No no. Instead,

947
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: remember crazy Mike is he's on fire. He's still on fire.

948
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: So now he slammed into the ground on fire. Production

949
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: crew now is to make a panicked dash of like

950
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: sixty yards to get to them. Oh go, so, and

951
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: they're all like making they're all panicked. Now they're like,

952
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: oh my god, just running around chickens with their heads

953
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: cut off. The first people to reach them, they just

954
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: start kicking dirt and sand on the flames.

955
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: He is rolling, Why aren't they rolling him?

956
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: Finally folks reached with fire extinguishers, apparent they were slower runners,

957
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: and then and they didn't give the like they should

958
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: just give the fire singers the fastest crew. Not that right,

959
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: They managed about out the fire. Then they turned the

960
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: yell medic. Medic, Well, that's sure.

961
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: You don't want to roll because he probably broke his neck.

962
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: Exactly, No, definitely, Like I'm losing it at this point, right,

963
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: worst safety crew for a big stunt I've ever seen,

964
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: just amateur hour clown show panic everywhere. Right, Anyway, they're rolling,

965
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: they're moving him like it's it's in everything. You don't

966
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: want to see.

967
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: His CTE must be so bad.

968
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't even thought about that.

969
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, his brain is just you know, the helmet.

970
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: Helmet helped. It kept him from a traumatic brain injury.

971
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. But like the number of times that he's crash, Yeah,

972
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 3: just like the shaking.

973
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: He's basically an NFL athlete. I felt defensive yeah, so

974
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: Crazy is fine. The ambulance takes him away. He's banged

975
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: up real good though, right, this is his worst injuries yet.

976
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: His arm is all bent, all kinds of wrong. He's

977
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: lying there, moaning, half conscious, but he comes around. He

978
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: tries to fight the medics so he can get up.

979
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: He's like me, He's like the worst patient. They try

980
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: to keep him calm. They still trying to triage all

981
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: his injuries. All told, Elizabeth, he has a broken back,

982
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: a broken neck, a broken pelvis, two broken arms, a

983
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: broken collar bone, multiple broken ribs, collapsed both of his lungs,

984
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: and he has the second degree burns from the fire.

985
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: But he's not dead.

986
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: Does he have health insurance?

987
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: And his helmet, as he told you, kept his brain

988
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: safe from the traumatic injury. But no, he does not

989
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: have health insurance. He's doing all of these stunts with

990
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 2: no health insurance. I just okay, Yeah, So the footage

991
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: of the medics treating him, you can hear someone say

992
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: he'd want you to film this, so of course they

993
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: record the entire thing. The paramedics rolling Crazy Mic onto

994
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: the backboard, stabilizing him, carding him off into the ambulance. Now,

995
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: after that stuff, goes horribly wrong. Life takes a dramatic

996
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: turn for Crazy monduse as you pointed out, he has

997
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: no health insurance and he's doing these stunts. As I said,

998
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: no health insurance America, right, which eventually has to file

999
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: a lawsuit against the ghostwriter to production company because he's

1000
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 2: got like a million dollars in medical bills.

1001
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, But I'm thinking if we had socialized

1002
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: medicine with universal health care, I wouldn't want my tax

1003
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 3: dollars going to his coverage stop.

1004
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: No, then what we can do with with everybody who

1005
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: speeds and because there's so many people.

1006
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: Who make risky decisions.

1007
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: Just crazy Mike, you.

1008
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: Have a crazy Mic again.

1009
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1010
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: Well, Crazy Mike's legal team they contended that the production

1011
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: company for Sony, and they alleged that Sony's producers of

1012
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: Break Media and Next Point, Inc. Were quote consciously chose

1013
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: to proceed with the dangerous activity with a conscious disregard

1014
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: of the safety of those observing the activity. I'm like,

1015
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: I was reading it. I'm like, bro, you're serious. We're

1016
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: crazy Mike. I mean, crazy Mic is not man. All

1017
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: that was filmed. We all saw the prep. It's like,

1018
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: there's no protocol. Clearly there was terrible say so the

1019
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: lawsuit he loses. Cut to the present or close to

1020
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: it twenty twenty two, ten years later, all right, where

1021
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: is crazy Mike? Now, Elizabeth in a nursing home. Well

1022
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: to answer that, I'd like you to close your eyes, al,

1023
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 2: I'd like you to picture it. It's just before two

1024
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: pm on a Monday afternoon in August, and you, Elizabeth,

1025
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: are in Franklin Township, New Jersey. You recently moved to Franklin,

1026
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: New Jersey for a new job. You took an offer

1027
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: from a cousin. Now you're working at a Christmas tree farm.

1028
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: You're in charge of the Douglas First, which you are

1029
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: not your favorite Christmas tree, but a job is a job.

1030
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: At the moment, you're standing in line in the local

1031
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 2: Chase Manhattan Bank, it's been a long day and it's

1032
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: only two pm. You wait with a few others. You're

1033
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: trying to make it to a friend's house for a

1034
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: dinner party. Just a few errands to run and then

1035
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: you can pop home and relax. You're there to deposit

1036
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: your first paycheck from the Christmas tree farm. The young

1037
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: man ahead of you in mine is listening to his

1038
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: music on his oversized headphones, loud enough that you can

1039
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: actually wrap along with jay Z whenever you recognize a line.

1040
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: Then you hear it. A motorcycle pulls up outside the bank.

1041
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: A short moment later, the door to the bank opens

1042
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: with the familiar chime of the bell. Then you hear

1043
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: motorcycle boots on hard tile. You turn to look and

1044
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: see if it's a big old biker. It's not. Instead,

1045
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: you see a young motorcycle guy. He's about five seven.

1046
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: He's in all black, black shirt, black pants, a black

1047
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 2: helmet with a black visor, black on black on black.

1048
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 2: The most importantly, he's also wearing a black face mask.

1049
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: There's an open space for his eyes, but not even

1050
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: his eyes are visible because they're covered by wait for it,

1051
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: black goggles. You listen to his motorcycle boots on the

1052
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: cold tile floor of the bank. As you do, the

1053
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: man darn it, this is a robbery. Why does this

1054
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: always happen to you, Elizabeth? The man in all black

1055
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: walks past the line of waiting customers and heads right

1056
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: up to a teller one who's busy with a customer,

1057
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: a local plumber. When the customer turns and sees the

1058
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 2: man in all black and his face mask. The middle

1059
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: aged plumber lets out a tiny gas. The man in

1060
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: all black doesn't speak. He slyly nods to the side.

1061
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: The plumber understands. He steps away. You can't hear what

1062
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: the robber is saying. All you can hear is muffled

1063
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: jay Z. He sort of mouthed the words when jay

1064
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: Z gets to allow me to reintroduce myself, my name

1065
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: is ho oh h to the hovie. The bank robber

1066
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: works his way down the line of tellers. You assume

1067
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: he must have a gun, but you don't actually see it.

1068
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: The tailers do as instructed. They hand over wads of

1069
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: cash from their drawers. You mentally calculate how much this

1070
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: payday could be might be Your best guess is maybe

1071
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars tops. But the man in all black

1072
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: sure seems pleased with his tape. Shoves the money into

1073
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 2: a small, loose sack, then like about like a half

1074
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 2: sized pillow. Then he shoves that sack of cash into

1075
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: his leather jacket zips up. He pulls his helmet down

1076
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: over his head, but as he does, he knocks his

1077
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: goggles loose. You see his eyes and they look kind

1078
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: of familiar. You actually wonder if you know him. Why

1079
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 2: does he look so familiar? The man in all black

1080
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: doesn't hesitate. He rushes for the door, his boots slapping

1081
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: at the cold, hard tile floor. No one stops him.

1082
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: The double doors swing open, then swing back shut. The

1083
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: bank robber gone. And that's when it hits you, and

1084
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: you mutter to yourself, Hella, crazy four. You recognize the

1085
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: man in all black from those dumb videos your old

1086
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: roommate used to watch back when you worked for the

1087
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: traveling circus. Outside the bank, you hear a motorcycle roar

1088
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: of life and races away. As the sound fades away, Elizabeth,

1089
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: you mutter to yourself under your breath, crazy Mike, is

1090
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: that you okay? So after that mass bandit fled on

1091
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: his motorcycle, the police of Franklin Township hopped to it

1092
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: is sprung into action. First they established a perimeter, then

1093
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: they called it in the FBI since it was a

1094
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: bank robbery, right, so the field ages. They're quick to

1095
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: their local cops aid, the FBI is there. They make

1096
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: this search, but it's all for not. Bank robber escapes.

1097
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: This begins Elizabeth, a three month investigation three months ninety days,

1098
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: at the end of which the FBI local police they

1099
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: have a solid suspect. They've worked their leads, and they

1100
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: have a real live suspect. Guess who, Elizabeth, that's right,

1101
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: one Mike gave aka Crazy Mike. On December second, a

1102
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 2: little more than three months after the late August of robbery,

1103
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: the FBI swat team from the Newark office raids the

1104
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 2: gab Off home. Mike isn't there, and his family gives

1105
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: misleading info about where he might be, try as they might,

1106
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: though this head start doesn't last long. Crazy Mike is

1107
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: subsequently arrested for the bank job. He's charged with second

1108
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: degree robbery, second degree conspiracy to commit robbery, both felonies.

1109
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: But that's not all. His father, Awesome Allen, his mother Sharon,

1110
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: and his little brother Jesse Gabos Sassy Sharon, we're all

1111
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: arrested for a third degree hindering. So wow, those charges

1112
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: were later dropped. So what happened? Was it all? Because

1113
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: the medical bills probably most likely right? Well to answer

1114
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: that question, Elizabeth. Recently, Crazy Mike sat down for a

1115
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: video interview to talk about robbing a bank in New Jersey. Yeah, now,

1116
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: thirty seven years old, Crazy Mike, still wearing sunglasses and

1117
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: still spiking his hair, explains to the camera how and

1118
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: why he was arrested. But from his side of the

1119
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: legal ledger quote on December, I was rudely awakened by

1120
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: a police and they handcuffed me, saying I was arrested

1121
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: for bank robbery. And yeah, I spent five days in

1122
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: jail and I got released on this thing called pre

1123
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: trial conditions. Now, the interviewer, I just asked them straight up,

1124
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: did you rob a bank? Yeah, Crazy Mike says I

1125
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: did not rob a bank. But then he clarifies, however,

1126
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 2: my brother robbed a bank.

1127
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 3: Oh, he puts it on Ryan.

1128
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: That's right, Elizabeth, it wasn't Crazy Mike. It was High

1129
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: Flying Ryan. Back to Crazy Mike for more clarification. And

1130
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: you know, some say I had like a slight involvement

1131
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: in it. I have to be real careful of my

1132
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: words because the case is still pending. And makes a video,

1133
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: but to his credit, the video is no longer on YouTube.

1134
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 2: I had to look public defender. Yeah. So it turns

1135
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: out in April twenty twenty three, his brother, High Flying Ryan,

1136
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: was arrested on the same charges of robbery and conspiracy

1137
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: to commit robbery. It seems at most Crazy Mike may

1138
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: have been involved in the getaway, or, as Crazy Mike

1139
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: put it, by way, teasing the cop who was investigating him.

1140
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: Another great choice when you're still in trial. I don't

1141
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: know if Detective Grosso really thinks I was really the

1142
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: ghetaway driver for this bank robbery. Detective Grosso, why would

1143
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: I have my iPhone on me? Ye? Silly Goose?

1144
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 3: Is silly goose?

1145
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: That's a direct quote, direct quote. Now, did Crazy Mike

1146
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: help hide his brother, High Flying Ryan?

1147
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: He sold him out?

1148
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't answer that question. But Crazy

1149
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: Mike wasn't the man in all black that you saw. Oh,

1150
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: in April of last year, his brother, High Flying Ryan,

1151
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: peacefully surrendered to authorities.

1152
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1153
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: No word on his motive, so I don't know if

1154
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: it's like his brother's medical costs or not. However, since

1155
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: that's not the best Danu mal, I do have this

1156
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: little fact for you, Elizabeth. I happened to know that

1157
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, Crazy Mike went back to the

1158
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: desert to retry the same ghost Riders stop that nearly

1159
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 2: killed him. No, yes, yes, yes, no stop in this one.

1160
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: This time it's the adrenaline, baby, you got it. You

1161
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: can't understand unless you feel I just can't. This time

1162
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: the ramp looked even worse in my opinion. Give me

1163
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: just shoot you straight up into the sky. Right at

1164
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: the top of the plywood. Someone and it's also like anyway,

1165
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 2: the top of the plywood, someone drew a red arrow

1166
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: pointing at the sky and there's just one word destiny,

1167
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: and people as you, oh my god, yes, and as

1168
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: you heard me like practically sputtering a second ago. This

1169
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: old school plywood ramp looks like something my friends and

1170
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: I built when we were twelve, Like can you talk

1171
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: about that ramp on the firewood? Yes, just a little

1172
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: bit better. It's like when we go and take scrap

1173
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: wood from them building homes and like old nails and

1174
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: like make these little X frames and then try to

1175
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: build a ramp. It's like that level of construction, and

1176
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: it's all pot like ply with overlapping. It's like, all right,

1177
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: I just put this here, and somebody's just like not

1178
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: even attached. Just we just laid it on because there's

1179
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: got some water here. Anyway, what do you think happens Elizabeth,

1180
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: does he land this jump?

1181
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:49,479
Speaker 3: Yes?

1182
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Well, first the police arrive, they see what I see.

1183
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: Someone else called in and then they showed up like,

1184
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 2: oh Jesus, we got to talk to somebody, so they

1185
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: nearly shut the stunt down. However, crazy Mike he uh,

1186
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: is able to sweet talk the cops, and by sweet

1187
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: talk I mean lie. He just straights up, tells him, oh, no,

1188
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: we're not gonna jump that. No, I don't know. No,

1189
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: We're just gonna setting up for photos and stuff. Right

1190
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: then the cops are convinced. They decided to let Crazy

1191
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: Mike be Crazy Mike, and they go away. So Elizabeth,

1192
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: again I asked, does he land it?

1193
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: Yes? And then he flew off in with the angel destiny.

1194
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: Well, I'll turn it over to crazy Mike. A gear up,

1195
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: soak all my leathers with the water to prevent any burns.

1196
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: Put conditioner all over my hair and face. I go

1197
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 2: in the spot where I'm about to begin. I gas

1198
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: my jacket up nice and carefully. Now, if you don't

1199
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: have a gas in your jacket up, he's gonna be

1200
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: on fire. So pouring gasoline on his leather jacket, and

1201
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: the video shows him pouring gas out of a gatorade

1202
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 2: bottle onto his jacket that's just lying on the cement,

1203
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: all crumpled in different angle. It's not like a smooth

1204
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: like we've applied this with a brush. It's even and

1205
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: we we're gonna have vapors coming. No, it's just yea

1206
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: some here, some there. Anyway, back to crazy Mike. He also,

1207
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: I should tell you he's got a partner named mister

1208
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 2: Stobb who's paying for this, so he'll come in into

1209
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 2: the story in a second. Yeah, So back to Crazy Mike.

1210
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: Mister Stobb says a prayer for me. I get on

1211
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: the bike. He lights me, and I'm going I'm riding

1212
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: as fast as that bike will go. And something came

1213
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: out of my mouth that I didn't even control, saying,

1214
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: what do you think? He said, Elizabeth, No, don't guess.

1215
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I guess, he says, and I

1216
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 2: quote I am the ghost Rider. And then as he

1217
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: tells it, and.

1218
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 7: I hit that ramp full beast mode and I was

1219
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 7: just flying felt like slow motion to me. Spotted the

1220
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 7: water and I was like, whoa, that water seems so

1221
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 7: far away from me right now? Who landed in the water?

1222
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: He landed at Elizabeth, Not really, he landed. He just

1223
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: grabbed down the water. No biking him together again more accurately,

1224
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: he watered it. So anyway, I got out of the

1225
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 2: water so excited. The feeling that I had when I

1226
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: got out of the water was pure bliss. This is

1227
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: why I do this crazy shit. That is always why

1228
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: I do this. It's crazy because I chase that feeling.

1229
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: So there you go, straight from the jackass's mouth. Is

1230
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: that why high Flying Ryan rob the bank? I cannot

1231
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 2: tell you to build the ramp? I don't know. Maybe

1232
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: the head, I think, though we do know it had

1233
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: something to do with that feeling and perhaps a desperate

1234
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: need for money, which is, you know, nothing to laugh at.

1235
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: So I don't mean to make light of that. However,

1236
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 2: crazy Mic and High Flying Ryan, they are ridiculous.

1237
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: Oh definitely.

1238
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: Man, do I love them for it?

1239
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: Definitely?

1240
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: So, Elizabeth, what's our ridiculous takeaway here?

1241
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: I'm curious as to their pain management protocols, like do

1242
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 3: they have that's dangerous to be injured so many times?

1243
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: Completely? And yeah, so that's there was no mention in

1244
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: the documentary, so I don't know if they have any

1245
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: issues with that. Interesting, that's my ridiculous takeaway. Thank you

1246
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: for asking, Elizabeth Is I you know I always tell

1247
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: you this that like I consider myself kind of the edge,

1248
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: Like if you are past me, I get work about you.

1249
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: These guys were so far past me. I could barely

1250
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: see him on the horizon. I was like, man, I'm

1251
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: worried about them. Are they still there? Anyway? There you go.

1252
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: That's all I have. Are you in the mood for

1253
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: a talk back? Always well, producer d can you hook

1254
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: us up? Oh? Oh my god, did you just see that?

1255
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 3: I let get.

1256
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 6: This is not a crime story, but it fits in

1257
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 6: with your sense of humor.

1258
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: Period.

1259
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 6: I think you would enjoy looking into the life of

1260
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 6: the Macho Man, a pro wrestler from the eighties period.

1261
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 6: Hope you enjoy it, Period.

1262
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Period. That was awesome. I ready you

1263
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: know macho Man, he's an amazing wrestler. The really tragic

1264
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: story and we're not going to cover it because it

1265
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: will toughly hit. Oh yeah, but thank you for the

1266
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: the the talkback. We do enjoy those as always that

1267
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: You can Period find us online Ridiculous Crime on the

1268
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: social media. We have our website Ridiculous Crime dot Com

1269
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,960
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1270
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1271
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1272
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1273
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1274
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1275
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