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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. Welcome back to our number two of

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Speaker 2: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. And Matt,

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Speaker 2: it's a Monday mock draft. Okay, bellow, wild shoot we again.

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Speaker 2: We'll slow down a little bit here in the mock

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Speaker 2: maybe Monday, Wednesday, Friday, something like that, but let's do it.

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Speaker 2: We're working on the.

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Speaker 3: Profile become draft season in a hurry, though very much sight.

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Speaker 3: It's not that far away.

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Speaker 2: Pro Footballnetwork dot Com mock draft simulator here, just to

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Speaker 2: change it up a little bit, and we're down to

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Speaker 2: pick twenty one. We got three trade offers. New Orlean

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Speaker 2: wants to give us picks forty and fifty.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Consider Actually initially thought, oh, I don't want.

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Speaker 3: But it might not be that different than what you're picking.

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Speaker 2: It's not that bad.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to consider.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to reject it. Straight up. The

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Speaker 2: Chargers are offering, uh, pick twenty two and eighty six

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Speaker 2: for pick twenty one and one fifty six. It's like

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Speaker 2: free money, Yeah, unless you're going to take your guy, right,

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Speaker 2: and the Jets are offering forty two seventy three next

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Speaker 2: year second and next year's fifth. I'd love the Jets

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Speaker 2: next year second, but they got a bevy of next

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Speaker 2: year's Steers have a bevy of next year. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to get back into that second round.

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Speaker 3: This year if possible.

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Speaker 2: Forty and fifty is kind of fifty is kind of

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Speaker 2: intriguing the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: One's kind of dumb. I mean, to move up one pick.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of feel like we should dismiss

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Speaker 3: those trades. They never happened. That's not going to happen, right,

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Speaker 3: what's the chances they have to have our pick who

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Speaker 3: they want so bad?

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Speaker 2: But this is so I'm back to the Saints offerer

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Speaker 2: of picks forty and fifty for twenty one and two

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Speaker 2: twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: I don't dislike it.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of inclined to take that one.

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Speaker 3: Let's just do it because we have it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't even want to ask who's there at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Let let's do it because we haven't.

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Speaker 2: And see what that Let's see what see what that

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Speaker 2: looks like okay, and it might be something as you

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Speaker 2: look at and go, yeah, I could say I'd definitely

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Speaker 3: So have three seconds. No, we don't have three seconds.

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Speaker 3: We have two seconds.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, right right, which is the little reason why

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in getting a pick in that second round.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to miss out on some of the second.

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Speaker 3: For Day two picks. Yeah, two and two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we're not going to trade again here, No,

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Speaker 2: it's hang it forty yeah, So I'm gonna reject both

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Speaker 2: of those trade offers. Oh, at thirty nine, we just

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Speaker 2: missed out on Amari and Hampton.

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Speaker 3: I would ran the podium.

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Speaker 2: We also just missed out on Kenneth Grant and he

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Speaker 3: Me, which is in the real world, if we would

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Speaker 3: have made that trade, I'm calling guys.

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Speaker 2: We might have been trying to get back up.

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Speaker 3: I would call the guys after Thursday, you know, all day,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the players available here for us at four

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Speaker 2: Tyler Williams, that wouldn't be bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the bonus prize.

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Speaker 2: Right defensive tackle out of Ohio State, Benjamin Morrison, cornerback

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Speaker 2: out of Notre Dame, Arianta Ersrie, offensive tackle out of Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: looking at TYLERK. Williams, t J. Sanders, Darius Alexander, Alfred Collins,

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Speaker 3: Okay, it wouldn't break my heart to go detackle the

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Speaker 2: No, I hear you. Yeah, I just want to take

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Speaker 2: a look at the running backs available. Caleb Johnson, Quinn

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Speaker 2: That's the question, right which is going to get us?

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Speaker 2: I think right now I would lean running back defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: See, I was looking at it differently. If I was

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Speaker 3: think i'd take Alexander or Williams.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you really wanted to nerd out, and

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Speaker 3: I know it doesn't quite work on this, I would

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Speaker 3: back landing spots are there? Because there's two or three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's take Alexander taking Alexander. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: we're now up at fifty and all three running backs

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Speaker 3: Johnson's my third choice.

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Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about is their mold changing? Maybe

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Speaker 3: Judgin's pretty good matter.

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Speaker 3: I'd prefer Junkins as well.

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Speaker 3: But you consider corner be kind of low on the list.

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Speaker 2: Lower on the list. I think you have some needs

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Speaker 2: Alfred Collins is there.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: Jared Wilson in the center out of Georgia, Shamar Turner

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle to Texas A and N Latham Ramsen safety

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Speaker 2: of Texas. Holland Pierce offensive tackle out of Rutgers. DJ

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Speaker 2: Giddens running back.

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Speaker 3: At a K state on the Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Guys, when yours is there, Jordan Birch, the off edge

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Speaker 2: rusher out of Oregon, I think I think you take Collins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a nice and fusion of talent on.

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Speaker 2: Your You just got a lot better up front, a

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Speaker 3: Trade down kind of made that happen.

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Speaker 2: Collins might be your Day one starter at those tile Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, real good chance. Yeah, no, sign me up for that,

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Speaker 3: all right? Two huge players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've now mined from the strength of the draft.

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Speaker 3: Now it's bonus prizes. Yeah, you know, all right, we're

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Speaker 2: At one twenty three when yours there. Want to take

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Speaker 2: a look at the quarterbacks available viewers? Is there? Dylan

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Speaker 2: Gabriel's there, Tyler Schuck is there? Riley Leonard is there,

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Speaker 3: I take shuck time to thought. We have the same

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Speaker 3: The tackle at the wide receivers? Bus of wideouts are

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Speaker 3: an interesting Ricky.

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Speaker 2: White out of un l V, Pat Bryant out of Illinois,

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Speaker 2: Nick Nash out of San Jose eight San Jose State.

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Speaker 2: I should say THEOIESE junior Kobe Hudson ill love this

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Speaker 3: I like first three again. Tackles don't go in trees

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Speaker 3: i'd take shock, but we can't have that conversation every day.

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Speaker 3: Of everything.

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Speaker 3: But no, talented tackles are something every team should describe

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Speaker 3: no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Charles Grant, offensive tackle out of William and Mary

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Speaker 2: it is. We're up next at one fifty six. A

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Speaker 2: lot of big people, yes, and again building through the trenches. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, now we are up at one fifty six.

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Speaker 2: Riley Leonard is there, cal McCord is there. Curtis Rourke

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Speaker 2: is there, Max Brosmer, Brady Cook. Those are your quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Work's probably my favorite, but several of those would fit

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Speaker 2: Again. The thing with Rourke, I don't think medicals are

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Speaker 3: Could be bad, could be bad. We won't know that

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Speaker 2: Nick Nash is still there at wide receiver, the oisee.

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Speaker 2: Kobe Hudson, Antoine Walls junior.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how about a defensive back?

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Speaker 2: Let me see here, cornerbacks you're looking at Tommy Hill

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Speaker 2: out of Nebraska, Jabbar Mohammad out of Oregon, No Williams

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Speaker 3: I say Stout so I'm a fan of. I don't

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Speaker 3: think Eccles means you don't go that you're done at slotness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Eckles can play outside both could I could

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Speaker 3: And try to really improve on special team. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: He could take up in Stout out of Western Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like Mike Hilton, young, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Hilton, real tough, right, safety back runs better? Oh ye faster? Yeah, yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: When we took upon Stout, he'll play, he'll play somewhere,

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Speaker 3: The quarterback and tackle. We'll see what happens down the road.

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Speaker 3: But those are the positions you can't find ever in

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Speaker 2: You know, again, when defensive tackles are going fifteen to

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Speaker 3: And I think there makes a lot of Slayers fit

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing too with Alexander. Because I'm now not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as opposed to thirty thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a hit. As opposed to having to pay

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Speaker 3: Years old, which might prohibit you from doing it, right,

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Speaker 3: Who knows if he has a couple of injuries between

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't mind giving up the fifth year

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Speaker 3: It's such a rare thing anyways. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's the chances that if you'd just stuck

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Speaker 2: I just want to look here and see who did

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Speaker 2: They took Nick Scouton.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they need both everything. I could see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and Golden would be fine. But the Seelers weren't going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the defensive tackles drafted after that.

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Speaker 3: No Grant went in the second round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Colson loved them. Went to the Chargers. Edgibika went

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Speaker 2: jodd A Baron at twenty five to the forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 2: I don't love that. Derreck Harmon goes at twenty eight

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Speaker 3: Goes to the Eagles. There's a lot of players when

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Speaker 3: we were on the board. Yeah, I like to trade

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Speaker 3: down experiment though with picking up two seconds, it's kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the I didn't realize the Saints

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Speaker 3: I didn't either. Who did they trade to make that happen?

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Speaker 3: I don't remember. I don't recall either. A lot of more.

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Speaker 2: Probably, Oh, there you go.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes yeah, that makes some sense. So they

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Speaker 2: We're going to try to get into that, whether they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's I think they averaged like four

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Speaker 3: the lowest of the league. Yeah, they trade up for

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Speaker 3: Penning and after it taken.

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Speaker 2: With what they're doing there, we're going to try to

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Speaker 3: They and I do not see football the same way,

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Speaker 3: but they see it a very distinct way and they

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Speaker 2: I could understand a team to your point before about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I Buka or one of these

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Speaker 3: Golden gets out of the first round. Yeah, have to

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Speaker 3: run as well as he did. You know, but just

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Speaker 3: how many are you going? Yea?

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Speaker 2: Some of the offensive tackle I mean the three offensive tackles.

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Speaker 3: That including Campbell.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, Banks and Campbell and Membo all went top ten.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Booker went twelve for all the reasons we talked about.

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Speaker 2: Banks screams like a guy that could get overdrafted. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, because of the position he played. They might

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Speaker 2: even say these bad. But I could see on draft day, like, wow,

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Speaker 2: he went seventh overall. Okay, I mean I get it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he is super high upside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear you. But yeah, it's interesting, just

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Speaker 2: a little different approach to that one. Having again, I

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Speaker 2: second round somehow. There's a lot of without trading George Pickens.

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Speaker 3: Oh, right, how do you do that other than trade

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Speaker 3: back in round one? Right, that's the process. Yeah, So

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Speaker 3: it was so weird to me last year.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, if you look at it that way too,

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Speaker 2: you got DK metcalf Darius, Alexander Quinn, Shawn Judkins, Alfred Collins,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely part of the draft. Yeah, he gave

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Speaker 3: a second und picked directly for him. Right. It was

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Speaker 3: so weird to meet last year when the Texans traded

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Speaker 2: Usually that happens draft day.

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Speaker 3: Would you considered now, you know, like the Saints calleg

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Speaker 3: he said, we'll give you forty and fifty for twenty

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Speaker 3: or you know for this, would you do it way

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Speaker 2: I don't think they would do it.

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Speaker 3: I think you'd be so you'd kick yourself like crazy, Yeah, saying, man,

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Speaker 3: our favorite nineteen That could typically.

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Speaker 2: You only do that to trade into the first round

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Speaker 2: or trade or do that kind of thing if you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is what the Vikings, Which is what the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't understand why Houston did it last year.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing that forty nine Ers did when

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Speaker 2: they moved up to get as it turned out Lance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were just I think the

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Speaker 3: Eagles did that. The wentz here too. They just kept

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Speaker 3: trading up and trading up and packaging up going up

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Speaker 3: is to make all those moves. Yeah. Yeah. So now

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Speaker 3: someone blew my doors off though and said, we'll give

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Speaker 3: you two pretty nice but they're.

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Speaker 2: Not going to do it to move up to now

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Speaker 3: Right right, You have to be a team trying to

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Speaker 3: get up to a quarterback. Yeah, hyeah, I don't know

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Speaker 3: who that is. This year. It's different than last year. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I could see somebody wanting to trade into the end

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Speaker 2: We got to go get Jackson dart or we gotta

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Speaker 3: I could see that. Yeah, especially if Sanders goes real early.

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Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, it's like, think if it

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Speaker 3: the Giants sitting there.

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Speaker 2: You're not waiting till the top of the second round.

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Speaker 3: No way. I mean you took Hunter or Carter or whatever,

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Speaker 3: and you're fine, but your owner's like, we'res the quarterback, right,

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Speaker 2: Or everybody from twenty down. I'm on the phones trying.

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Speaker 3: To work all those playoff teams, right, I mean, especially

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Speaker 3: if darts this much higher than everybody else or whatever,

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Speaker 3: are in a pickle. Giants and Browns could really overpay

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. And we'll get a little news here. While

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Speaker 2: we were talking draft, the Steelers went out and have

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Speaker 2: agreed to terms with former Chiefs and Brown safety one Thornhill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. To add to the equation. I think he was

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Speaker 3: the second round pick of the Chiefs. Yes, and we're

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Speaker 3: talking about slightly just before we hit record here for

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Speaker 3: the segment. Really good tester, explosive, vertical, very versatile in

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Speaker 3: terms of slot, deep, middle, too high. Not the biggest, roughest,

455
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Speaker 3: strong safety body type, but real fluid. It's a nice pickup.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's your third safety. Like, I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's in challenge those top two to be a starter,

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Speaker 3: but you could do a lot of different packages. He

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Speaker 3: could play the deep middle and make it comes down

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Speaker 3: or whatever. I like to pick up a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, six foot two oh five ran a four to

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Speaker 2: four to two at his combine his long arm with

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Speaker 2: a forty four inch vertical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Eleven nine in the broad jump. Wow, and he still

466
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Speaker 2: did twenty one reps on the bench. Yeah, has played

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Speaker 2: a specimen right, played a lot of free safety over

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Speaker 2: the years, in addition to also coming down and playing

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Speaker 2: slot more so with the Chiefs than he did slot

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Speaker 2: with the Browns.

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Speaker 3: In the slot, yeah, the Browns, like the Steelers, are

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Speaker 3: pretty predominant single high defense more than most teams. So

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Speaker 3: many teams are playing cover two two high shells these

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Speaker 3: two or two that don't. So I think he's much

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Speaker 3: more Minca than Elliott in terms of usage. I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying he's as good as Menca. I mean I think

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Speaker 3: people get my drift here that he's in a typical

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Speaker 3: three cover high three shell. He's probably your middle guy

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Speaker 3: more often than not. Big Nickel is something they've kind

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Speaker 3: of gotten away from that. It mostly because their linebackers

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Speaker 3: are better now than they used to be. Not that

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Speaker 3: they couldn't play big Nickel, but now you can with

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Speaker 3: the third. You can make the argument he's one of

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Speaker 3: your best fifteen defensive players or so. You know that

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Speaker 3: he could get serious rotation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's an upgrade over KZ for sure.

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Speaker 2: For sure in that regard way different athlete, a way

488
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Speaker 2: different athlete, different sized athlete. It gives you the potential

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Speaker 2: to be both your strong and you're free. He did

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Speaker 2: play your strong safety in Kansas City as.

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Speaker 3: Well, way better length. Yeah, they look like different people

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Speaker 3: coming in, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: And he gives you a guy that you know against

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Speaker 2: a lot of these teams that line up with their

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Speaker 2: tight end in the slot. Well, now you've gotten the joke.

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Speaker 2: You've got two guys capable of handling those and still

497
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Speaker 2: keeping Meca back.

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Speaker 3: Deep obvious connection to the division too. He's played against

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Speaker 3: all these guys who understands what Lamar is, He understands

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Speaker 3: what Burrow is. I mean, there's something to be said

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Speaker 3: for that I like it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, also I assume has a pretty good understanding

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Speaker 2: what Mahomes is. Yeah, probably too, practicing against him for

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Speaker 2: four years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I like it. It also kind of eliminates

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Speaker 3: a draft need maybe needs a strength. But I always

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Speaker 3: thought they might take.

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Speaker 2: Well, if we had known that going into what we

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Speaker 2: just did, maybe we don't take Upton Stout.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not. You know, like you got the two smaller

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Speaker 3: slot type guys in Beanie and Eccles, and you got

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Speaker 3: your bigger one now in Thornhill war Amenca. You know,

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Speaker 3: depending on what you show, so they might be. Are

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Speaker 3: they done at defensive back? I think wats being out

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Speaker 3: there is kind of important too.

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Speaker 2: I think they I think they might be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if anything, maybe it's just an outside corner.

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Speaker 3: You're shocked. Is there in the fifth round that you

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Speaker 3: had a third round grade on? That's about right? And again,

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Speaker 3: this is which means they're back. Seven's done.

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Speaker 2: This is what the Steelers do every single year. And

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Speaker 2: again it might not be the flashiest signings or anything

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Speaker 2: like that, but.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Elliott was a flashiest sign right?

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Speaker 2: You know, he was just okay, right, you know, it

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Speaker 2: was all about the queen signing. Well, this year it's

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Speaker 2: been all about you know, a DK Metcalf and you

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Speaker 2: know Darius Slay, Right, what are they doing a defensive tackle?

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Speaker 2: They'll they'll figure that out in the draft, but they

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Speaker 2: typically set themselves up so that they don't have to

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Speaker 2: go in to the draft. We got to take this,

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Speaker 2: We got to take that, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean early, because we talked through this just looking at

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Speaker 3: like the final roster defensively, I kind of and they

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Speaker 3: came to agreement with the defensive tackle from New England too.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think it's a rotational pie. I don't

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Speaker 3: think that that's that's a lowry, that's a warmly. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's fine. I'm not saying he's not a good player.

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Speaker 3: But if you could add two d tackles in your

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Speaker 3: draft and everything else is offense, I think that's about

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Speaker 3: all you need now. I mean, in terms of filling

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Speaker 3: out my defensive depth chart, I'd love that and nose

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Speaker 3: and another defensive tackle. Yeah. Okay, you know, and maybe

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Speaker 3: that's less than a little with the signing yesterday, but

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Speaker 3: that doesn't mean.

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Speaker 2: Me the thing. You know, for example, over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: the Titans kinda woozy, eh, Yeah, who's a good NFL cornerback?

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Speaker 3: I would sniff around.

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Speaker 2: They just signed him last year.

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Speaker 3: He was worth a lot last year, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: and all of.

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Speaker 2: A sudden, he's not. There might be a defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: cut loose here in the next couple of weeks, and like,

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Speaker 2: you know, for a woozy it was like, okay, they

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Speaker 2: signed him. I think he played like seven or eight

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Speaker 2: games and was hurt. Yeah, and so they said, okay,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna move on this guy while he was hurt.

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Speaker 2: Who's the defensive I don't know who the defensive tackles,

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Speaker 2: but there will be somebody out there.

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Speaker 3: Grady Jeric got cut. He got picked up by the

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Speaker 3: Bears next day. You know. I mean like there's always

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Speaker 3: at every position, not really quarterback, but I mean someone

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Speaker 3: that's worth being on a roster and helping a good

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Speaker 3: team will pop up. Yeah, but they may not even

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Speaker 3: need it.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is, we're now past that opening wave

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Speaker 2: of free agency. Where As I said earlier, it's like

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Speaker 2: if I'm in Target, which is a fine store. Sure,

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Speaker 2: I like Target. I liked what they got in there.

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Speaker 2: There's nice stuff. I can buy clothes at Target or whatever,

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Speaker 2: and be perfectly happy for them. But when I'm at Target,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to pay Macy's prices, right.

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Speaker 3: Right, right right. I don't want to buy this agency.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to buy this thirty dollars jacket for

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Speaker 2: sixty dollars or one hundred dollars. I want to buy

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Speaker 2: it for thirty dollars. That's why I'm a Target.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, buy kitty litter Target, Yeah, and bananas over there.

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Speaker 2: I'm not ripping on Target at all. I do lots

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Speaker 2: of shopping there. There's one rate by my house. I'm

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Speaker 2: there all the time.

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Speaker 3: Williamson Family's spent a lot of money to the Target, right.

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Speaker 2: But I don't want to. I don't want to buy

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Speaker 2: my one hundred dollars jacket there and expected, well, this

584
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Speaker 2: is a really nice hundred Oh it's not such a

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Speaker 2: nice sme.

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Speaker 3: It's what we paid for it. Yeah. Yeah, And that

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Speaker 3: is kind of free agency this year in particular, in

588
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Speaker 3: most years, but not at this point. I mean again,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with quarterback. I don't

590
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Speaker 3: know what Rogers is going to cost, or Wilson or

591
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Speaker 3: any of those dudes. That's a different beast. But teams

592
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Speaker 3: plucking the thorn heels of the world up now are

593
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Speaker 3: usually pretty happy with it. I know what he does.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to pay him what I want to pay him,

595
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Speaker 3: not what his agent wanted to pay him a week ago.

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Speaker 3: And I got a roll.

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Speaker 2: For and for the players that are out there right now,

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Speaker 2: not you're worried. These guys are starting to go. Okay,

599
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Speaker 2: the seats are starting to get taken here, I'm walking

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Speaker 2: around the chairs. I'm walking around the chairs and music

601
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: still playing. But at some point it's going to turn

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Speaker 2: off and them, what and you sign.

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Speaker 3: A one year deal and I'll roll the dice next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it adds up to me.

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Speaker 2: That was the other thing. And he does a great

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Speaker 2: job of tracking this stuff. But you know, and I'm

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Speaker 2: listening to Miller and on to last night, and he

608
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Speaker 2: was talking about all the guys signing. He says, after

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Speaker 2: that opening salvo free agency, you're going to see a

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Speaker 2: bunch of guys sign one year deal because they're going

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Speaker 2: to play in the league this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But the guys who got the four years at

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Speaker 2: twenty six million dollars or whatever, all right, those were

615
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Speaker 2: the big ticket items. Now these are the guys that

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Speaker 2: are going to play in the league. But they just

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Speaker 2: won another year in the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, get get a paycheck, a nice paycheck. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: by human standards, you know, maybe not what you expected.

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Speaker 3: There's four year deals. They're never going to see the

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Speaker 3: end of the man never, but they pounce on him.

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Speaker 3: Good for them. They get the big bonus, they get

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Speaker 3: guaranteed money. This is what most NFL players. Yeah, Like

624
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Speaker 3: you've said this a bunch of the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: There's still five hundred unemployed NFL players or whatever. You know.

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Speaker 3: You got roster the.

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Speaker 2: One Thornhill's out there who's been a starter his entire career.

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Speaker 3: He's played.

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Speaker 2: He's played an eighty seven career games, seventy four of

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Speaker 2: them starts. He is a starting caliber playing round pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean, this guy's a big time athlete.

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Speaker 2: He'll be coming here not to be a starter, right,

633
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: but to be a key backup. KZ played a lot

634
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Speaker 2: of snaps for them last year.

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Speaker 3: He'll lose menka, right. I mean, it's like we got

636
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Speaker 3: to change the whole defense. Now, you got to do

637
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Speaker 3: get they can do that.

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Speaker 2: You know, for example, you get into that game late

639
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Speaker 2: in the year and elliotts is out, which is what

640
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Speaker 2: happened to them.

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Speaker 3: Remember the safeties and the linebackers they rolled out two

642
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Speaker 3: years ago. The right stuff happens. It's a long year

643
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Speaker 3: and it's a war of attrition.

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Speaker 2: Now you're you know, it's it's very much like the

645
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Speaker 2: Lowry signing a year ago. You got a guy coming

646
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Speaker 2: off your bench now who's got ninety plus career starts,

647
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Speaker 2: and it's like, he's not going to be overwhelmed going

648
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Speaker 2: into this situation.

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Speaker 3: Exactly who he is.

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Speaker 2: R Yeah, one Thornhill. If he has to start. They

651
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Speaker 2: have a situation like they had last year where they're

652
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Speaker 2: down what five defensive starters against the in the second

653
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Speaker 2: matchup down in Baltimore, they were missing five starters in

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Speaker 2: that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's what the league is. Yeah, and you know,

656
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: and he would have been like, oh, okay, I played

657
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: Baltimore years.

658
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: We want to step right in. Not the Kzy wasn't no,

659
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: But this is a better place. I think it's a

660
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: better better player.

661
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: I assume he's younger than KZ too.

662
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: He's twenty nine right now.

663
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah it makes sense. So and I would think,

664
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: who knows, but I think you're going to keep those

665
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: three killerbrew Watts. It's a pretty good safety room. It's

666
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: good safety, real good safety.

667
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: Room, right, one of the better safety rooms in the league.

668
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.

669
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: I mean honestly, if you're adding you're adding a wan

670
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: Thornhill and you're not expecting him to start. He's your

671
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: third safety, yeah, and your fourth safety is a two

672
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: time All Pro on special teams you got maybe the

673
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: and your your number one safety is a multi time

674
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: All Pro top guy. You might have the best safety

675
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: room in the league.

676
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: It's really strong. I was sitting there thinking I almost

677
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: didn't say it, but whenever you went down that road,

678
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, I bet thorn Hill's still a top thirty

679
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: two safety. You know that a lot of teams would

680
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: think he's one of their top two. Yeah, you know,

681
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: and he's your three. And again I wouldn't mind seeing

682
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: a little more big nickel. But you're gonna put eleven

683
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: on the field too, you know.

684
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: And he'll play four hundred to five hundred snaps this year.

685
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: They'll find ways get him on the field easily.

686
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think let alone. If there's injury, yeah, we

687
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: hope it's only that number, right, you know, but people

688
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: get hurt.

689
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: I mean, if everything's right, Mika's playing over a thousand snaps.

690
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: I mean, think about them. Again, I'm just spitballing. But

691
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: if you have Wilson Queen and those three safeties on

692
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: the field, that's a lot of middle of the field

693
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: speed compared to what they used to play with in

694
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: the middle of the field. Yeah, I mean that was

695
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: a big problem for a lot lot of time. I mean,

696
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: you're not crossers and play action and that kind of stuff.

697
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: You should be really good against that stuff.

698
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: The interesting thing here is that Thornhill in his first

699
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: four seasons had eight interceptions when he was in Kansas City, Okay,

700
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: the last two years with the Browns none.

701
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of it. I mean,

702
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: I just way different environments.

703
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatether it was the way they were using him.

704
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Kansas City used him more in the

705
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: slot and then free safety as well, where you know,

706
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: I mean he's taking the ball away.

707
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: He's been on some good Browns defenses, especially two.

708
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: Years two years ago in twenty twenty three, and was

709
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: a good player for them.

710
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm thinking, obviously the difference is Kansas City

711
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: played a lot more leads than the Browns. During his

712
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: his stint, the Chiefs and Steelers the best teams in

713
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: the league getting their hands on batted passes, you know,

714
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: and that always leads to picks, and probably more than anything,

715
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: it's luck. I mean, I don't think he got bad

716
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: at picking the ball.

717
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: No, we talked about with me, like, okay, there's it's.

718
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: A hard thing to count on. Yeah. The interception leader

719
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: every year is usually a corner that gets thrown at

720
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: over and over who isn't very good, you know. Anyways,

721
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: now I like to pick up.

722
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: So that's that's that's the latest Steelers signing here, and

723
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: again there's going to be more of these type of

724
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: deals happening here. Again, maybe they're one year deals, but

725
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: again I like doing the one year deals.

726
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what positions you're looking at now, Like

727
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: I really think the back seven's done.

728
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: I could see another offensive tackle, Yeah, on a a

729
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: one year deal. Who's a guy with some starting experience that.

730
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get kind of crazy? But if what if

731
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: a Marii Cooper or Stefan Diggs or some is still

732
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: sitting out there a week from now and want to

733
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: sign a one year deal and be like, we'll figure

734
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: out something to do with you. I mean, it's not

735
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: gonna be a quarterback. It's not gonna be a running back.

736
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: I think I need offensively. I think I need to

737
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: figure out before I have more skill position players. I

738
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: think I need to know what I'm doingquarterback.

739
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: I also would mind the her big replacement type guy,

740
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: that guy.

741
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why offensive line to me, just adding another

742
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: offensive lineman to the mix who's played an.

743
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: NFL games and they won't be superstars at this note,

744
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 3: but they'll be pretty tough guys.

745
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: Guys who've been in the league five or six years,

746
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: who've you know, they've started twenty games.

747
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: And going back to O line. The more you draft,

748
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: the more you sign these Thornhills, the more you get

749
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 3: the William and Mary tackle in the third round. Yourself

750
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: up for that too.

751
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have to take a fourth round safety

752
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: now because right that spot's filled. Now I can take it.

753
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: Cap money for the bird in the hand, and now

754
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna draft O lineman even if I don't need them,

755
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 3: because everyone in the world needs. Yeah.

756
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: We talked about it last year during camp that you

757
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: know they get eleven offensive linemen here that have our

758
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: NFL players, Well, they'll probably only keep nine or ten.

759
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: Could they trade one of them? Well, as it turned out,

760
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: you know, Herbie three herbig gets hurting camp, right, and

761
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: you had a ration of injuries early in the season.

762
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: You're signing guys off the street because that's the way that.

763
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: I mean, two or three more moves like this, or

764
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 3: maybe even not even that many. That fourth round guard

765
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: is sitting there that you can't believe is like, maybe

766
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: that's the McCormick. You might take a McCormick this year

767
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: that we've never taken in our mocks because the roster

768
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: wasn't filled out yet. And where you take the right

769
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: right right, you know, see them Alla's gonna be back.

770
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: Because it's such a deep draft with some of these

771
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: positions that you you know, you just can't believe that

772
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: that guy's still there.

773
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: Wow, there's an edge pass rusher doesn't seem like a need.

774
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: But DJ's not young, and those guys would be right right, right,

775
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: two years left on his deal yet, right, So that's

776
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 3: a good situation being.

777
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely But again three D chess don't look at things

778
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: just two dimensionally. You have to look at all these

779
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: moves like, Okay, what's this do? What's what's the fallout

780
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: from this kind of stuff?

781
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: So cool?

782
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Good signing wasn't on my radar for no.

783
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: No. I even mentioned it I think late last week

784
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: and like a Storrenhill still out there because we were

785
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: talking about the Browns and we're going through depth charts

786
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 3: and I'm like, so, yeah, to be signed by.

787
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, good player, not a great player, but a

788
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: good player. No, no, it'll be a valuable piece. Yeah,

789
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: and uh athletic. You know, if he's not one of

790
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: the top thirty two safeties in the league, he's probably

791
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 2: in the top thirty six.

792
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, say he's top forty or whatever. I mean. He's

793
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: an NFL player all day long, and we'll play a

794
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: lot of snaps for any team.

795
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But let's get to a break.

796
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: Cool.

797
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798
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,480
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799
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: will be back with more right after this.

800
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801
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802
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803
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804
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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and while we're in break there.

805
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: According to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN, the Steelers bringing back

806
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: defensive lineman Isaiah Laudermilk.

807
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Speaker 3: It's keep coming here on the drive, right, and every

808
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: day it's one year deal week. It is one year

809
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: deal week, and again just picking up little bargains, you know,

810
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: filling out the roster. They generally keep seven defensive linemen

811
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: and they've signed two basically in the last two days.

812
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: I can't guarantee the louder Milk will be on the

813
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: opening day Ross.

814
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: Again, you hoped out draft those guys. It's a one

815
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: year deal, so there's not a lot of money involved.

816
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: And it's easy to go into the draft saying we're

817
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: going to take two, but you might not might right

818
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: right right, And you know, you can live with him.

819
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: He's a homegrown talent. He's fine, you know what I mean.

820
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: I don't have any problem with that at all. Again,

821
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: you have cap space. It's not hurting your comp picks

822
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: or anything like that.

823
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: Although defense, you know how you don't have to guess

824
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: about what his work habits are or anything like that.

825
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fine with it.

826
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: It's much like you know, they announced the signings of

827
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: Ben Skernic and Scotty Miller today and oh boy, Scotty Miller.

828
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: He's not guaranteed to make the roster. If you got

829
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: signed to a one year deal, you're not guaranteed of anything.

830
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 3: I mean, like Thornhill is going to make the team. Yeah,

831
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: I think that's a higher roster move. Thankronic got a

832
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: two year deal. He's going to make the roster, right.

833
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of guarantee money Thornhill got

834
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: ors Goronic, but I'm sure it's something, you know, like

835
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: we like you, we're going to be around. I don't

836
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: know about you, k Lee. I assume he'd be ahead

837
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: on the depth one year deal. I think he's probably

838
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: in the mix, you know. I would think he's ahead

839
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: of louder Milk in terms of chances to make the team.

840
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: They signed him before they signed I don't know. I

841
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: can't here that he started sixteen games last year for

842
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: the Patriots. Now it was the Patriots and they weren't

843
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: right terribly, you know.

844
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: And I'll be honest, I didn't know a ton about him.

845
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: And his PFF grades are decent. He's quality run stuff

846
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: or he has some sacks. He's okay, you know, what

847
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: I mean. But he's not a needle mover. I think

848
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: he doesn't stop you from guy and right right, it's

849
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: not like they're out of the first round D line mix.

850
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: Not at all, not even a little, right, not at

851
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: all in the mix. Yeah.

852
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: So again this is you know, this is where I

853
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: think you in this over the years, this is where

854
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: the Steelers have done most of their shopping. And it

855
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, again, I don't I don't want to pay

856
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 2: Macy's prices. My target my target coat.

857
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: But you go get the slaves and there wasn't a

858
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: receiver to go get those comparable to DK metal.

859
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: Which is why you made the trade.

860
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: Godwin's not going anywhere.

861
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: And I'm sure like the Steelers weren't even rumored to

862
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: be in on that DK Metcalf. No, no, no stuff.

863
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: There was a lot of packers like we had talked

864
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: about it.

865
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: And we had worked out we did some mock drafts

866
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: for Okay, we're gonna trade for DK Metcalf and see

867
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 2: what that looks like if we give up that second

868
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: round pick or you know, but they were they weren't

869
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 2: one of the teams that were supposedly in that market

870
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Speaker 2: and until they were.

871
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: Until they were, Yeah, and so you never know what's

872
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: looming out there. I mean, is there a quarterback move

873
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 3: that we didn't see coming that could be out there?

874
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean that's that that big shoe

875
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: is just kind of allumin in the air.

876
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: But you know, that's the other thing. I Mean, everybody's

877
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: gotten so used to listening to the quote unquote insiders

878
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: that they'll believe anything if you work for a network

879
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: or you work for this outlet, or that they'll believe

880
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: anything that you put out there.

881
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

882
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you might not be an insider, but well they

883
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: work for that network.

884
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

885
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 2: That's why I don't necessarily like if I talk about

886
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, I'll try if Rappaport tweets it, if if

887
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: Jeremy foul tweets it. These people that I know whose

888
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: reputations are on the line here with this stuff.

889
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: If it's it's like lock it up right right. Yeah.

890
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: But if it's somebody I haven't heard of, or somebody

891
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: that is questionable, so I'm not going to even talk

892
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: about it.

893
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: Or they're talking to or they're close to a deal

894
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: with that stuff.

895
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: There's so much Aaron Rodgers speculation out there, and that's

896
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: what it is is speculation. At this point, to the

897
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: best of my knowledge, Aaron Rodgers isn't talking to anybody.

898
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 2: So anybody who says that they have inside information on

899
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers situation, they're making it up.

900
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing whatever he does. I mean, he lives

901
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 3: in his own world, and good for him. Yeah, And

902
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: I don't know that much about your business and reporting

903
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: and breaking news and being an insider. But my hunch

904
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: is just being around you guys, and Pittsburgh media and

905
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: national people in general, I bet the Steelers insiders like yourself,

906
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: or at least his doubt and even as greate as

907
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: Schifter is, so I have the most respect for. But

908
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: he gets he's thirty two teams, you know what I mean,

909
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: Like they might break news before you guys.

910
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: People need to understand. And I get asked this a

911
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: lot over the years, like why do they break these

912
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: these stories, like these signings and stuff? Because the agents

913
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: are telling them that stuff.

914
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: Because they want the world to know. Now, they're not.

915
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: They're not schefters, not on the phone all day long

916
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: calling agents.

917
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 3: They call him, call him right, He's got a bazillion

918
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 3: followers and.

919
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: Because you and that's that's what they do now.

920
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: It used to be you might get scoop, well they

921
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: really like this guy, or they you know, like you

922
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: know people.

923
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: That back in the day when I first started with

924
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: this stuff, you would call the agent up and say,

925
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, hey, you know so I'm working with you know,

926
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: whatever outlets you're at, and and you know, I, you know,

927
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about this guy or that guy,

928
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: and they would Okay, I gotta you know. And there

929
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: were some times, like I can remember I broke the

930
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: I had this Santonio home signing before anybody else know

931
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 2: to his rookie deal because he was he was holding

932
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 2: out in training camp and I just happened to call

933
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: the agent when the timing was perfect, and so I

934
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: had it first big deal.

935
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: You know.

936
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 2: Now that wouldn't happen.

937
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would just call chef.

938
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: They would just call chef, They call one of these

939
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: guys there, they text three of them and just get

940
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: it out there.

941
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the world's different now, which is.

942
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: Why you see these guys now tweeting out when they

943
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: when they send out a tweet or an X or

944
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it.

945
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: Now.

946
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 2: Uh deal was negotiated by such and such.

947
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Yeah, that's big. I really noticed that.

948
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: It's a payback for the agent forgiving you the Yeah.

949
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: Exactly, the kid coming out of that's what That's what.

950
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: The agents get out of it. When he did this

951
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: deal for this guy. What can he get me?

952
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: I guess A better spot is even like training camp,

953
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: Like if we're on the drive and it's like, man,

954
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: I really think they love this fourth round tight end.

955
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: He's gonna make the team. He might even be better

956
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 3: than they thought. Schefter wouldn't know that. I mean we

957
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: were I.

958
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: Guarantee you we were on Jalen Warren before any example.

959
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to think of an example. We

960
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: were rating he was.

961
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: We were raving about Jalen Warren in mini camp.

962
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: I remember watching him just my eyes go and he's

963
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: really good. Yeah, and then you guys that are talking

964
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: to people are like, oh, they think he's really good too,

965
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: you know, like it was, I mean, it didn't take

966
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 3: an experts out. They'll see him being pretty a high

967
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: quality player.

968
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: I remember seeing that with James Harrison his rookie year,

969
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: Like what's going on with his Harrison kid? He's pretty good? Yeah,

970
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: he's pretty good.

971
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: He just needs to listen. Yeah, a little bit of loose, can't.

972
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: If we can watch that the right channel that energy

973
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: a little bit, maybe you'll win some defensive Player of

974
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 3: the Year. I suppose to getting cut nothing, But yeah.

975
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: That's what you see when you're on you have boots

976
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: on the ground. Yeah, yeah, those kind of things. Then

977
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: you go when you talk to people and you ask

978
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: them about certain guys and you get the yeah.

979
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: Adam and e and those guys can't be boots on

980
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 3: the ground like you know, all over the place.

981
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 2: Like when I say the Steelers really liked what Troy

982
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 2: Folatana was doing last year in training camp, I'm telling

983
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: you the Steelers really like what Troytana was doing in

984
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: training camp last year.

985
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: They weren't thrilled about his injury. They were not, right, no, right, no,

986
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: So they have high hopes. Yeah, and again, think about

987
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: if he becomes that guy and is one of the

988
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: better left tackles in the league, right tack right, I

989
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 3: mean what an asset that is. I mean it's just huge.

990
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 3: You get that in the middle of the first round.

991
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: If that turns out to come to fruition, he stays

992
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: healthy and he's a top ten right, tack on a

993
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: massive right right huge? Yeah. Anyway, foundation players.

994
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you want to keep building that foundation until

995
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: you get your quarterback.

996
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: And then you have the thornhill and the louder Milks.

997
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: And you build a deck on the back of the house,

998
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 2: you do the kitchen, you know that kind of stuff. Yeah,

999
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: but it doesn't do you any good to put that

1000
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: on a poor foundation and you build all that nice

1001
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: stuff on it and then it caves.

1002
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: In on drafting and land a couple more this year, Matt.

1003
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: That's going to do it for the show today.

1004
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: We had a lot going on today. We did this

1005
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: is a barn burner.

1006
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it was Monday. Lots of stuff going Onday, and

1007
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: lots of stuff to continue to talk about. We'll get

1008
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: into that more as the week continues, but for today,

1009
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: that's going to do it. For my partner Matt Williamson,

1010
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: for Justin Miller here on site making sure we sound okay,

1011
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: and for Tyler Wittmeyer, uh making sure our YouTube video

1012
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: gets out there. Check that out. We also had a

1013
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: little best of on Saturday.

1014
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Speaker 3: Step week, so you get the best of CD.

1015
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Speaker 2: You check out the best of on there as well.

1016
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Allie. We Thank you for listening to this

1017
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Speaker 2: edition of The Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.