Speaker 1: Now I'm moving in a little bit of slow motion today,
Speaker 1: Donald and Joelle because you can hear my voice. I
Speaker 1: was overserved last night in Manhattan. I don't like to
Speaker 1: be overserved anymore these days, but occasionally in Manhattan it happens.
Speaker 2: When in Rome, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yes, just once it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like everything in Manhattan is like, what are you
Speaker 1: doing when are gonn drink? Yea, let's go a drink. Okay,
Speaker 1: should we go to dinner? Yeah, let's get more drinks?
Speaker 1: What should have to dinner? Do you guys want to
Speaker 1: get some more drinks?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Should we stop by that the bitter end and get
Speaker 1: some more drinks? Yeah, let's go there. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's there.
Speaker 4: They serve you they don't drinks are strong at the
Speaker 4: bitter end. Listen, my brother was a a He would
Speaker 4: perform at the bitter End quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Huh. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 4: Every time you're like, let me get a jack and coke,
Speaker 4: that shit is just jack with a spill. Like they
Speaker 4: took the coke and be like and just spit on it,
Speaker 4: like with the coke was spit like and in there
Speaker 4: here take that they serve you well at the bitter end.
Speaker 1: It's so funnier because I left. I left La, which
Speaker 1: has no Christmas vibe at all, obviously, and I get
Speaker 1: into JFK and they're like chest nuts roasting open.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: The second you get through the airport, you feel like
Speaker 1: you're in die Hard in the opening, and there's like
Speaker 1: trees and wreaths and people with presents. I felt like
Speaker 1: I was in a movie. I was like the polar
Speaker 1: opposite of La, which is just you want Christmas, go
Speaker 1: to the grove.
Speaker 2: Die Hard too, you mean no?
Speaker 1: In the opening of Oh sorry, you're right, I heard too.
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry Donald. But wait In Diehard one and he's
Speaker 1: getting off the plane and the passenger sees the gun.
Speaker 1: There's is that the end. There's no terminal section.
Speaker 4: That's the beginning, but it's him landing in La to
Speaker 4: go visit the family. Die Hard two takes place in
Speaker 4: the airport where the wife is coming in on the
Speaker 4: plane him.
Speaker 1: And he says, just the facts, ma'am. And even as
Speaker 1: a kid, I thought that was the most horrible joke.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that. No, he's waiting for a facts
Speaker 1: at the counter, back in the fax machine era, and
Speaker 1: he goes, can I get the fat fact? And she
Speaker 1: says something I forgot if it's flirty or not or something,
Speaker 1: and he goes, just the facts, ma'am, And I was like, wow.
Speaker 4: I Digress. Still one of my favorite movies, though Diehard too.
Speaker 4: Die Hard one and two are the best. Look people
Speaker 4: will sleep on two, but two. That shit was fire
Speaker 4: to me. When I first sar there were no opening
Speaker 4: That was the first movie that I ever other than
Speaker 4: Star Wars, went and saw where it just said the
Speaker 4: opening title and then it was right into the movie
Speaker 4: without any freaking not without any credits, And I thought
Speaker 4: that was the coolest thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like opening credits. It's a little pet
Speaker 1: peeve of mine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it takes people out of the movie.
Speaker 1: Well it's an old school thing, but I all my
Speaker 1: films have. They call it main on ends, which is
Speaker 1: the expression which means if you if you contractually, you're
Speaker 1: allowed to if you do if you do no one's
Speaker 1: name at all, then you're allowed to do the credits
Speaker 1: at the end. You can do minimal. It's like this
Speaker 1: production company, this studio, and like the and then the
Speaker 1: title and that's it. The second you get into any
Speaker 1: single person's name, then it triggers having to do the
Speaker 1: stars and the ZP and then you know, understandably everyone
Speaker 1: who should get credit. But I love to I to me,
Speaker 1: it's like I've always thought of it as like if
Speaker 1: you were seeing a play and the audience came out
Speaker 1: and took a bow before the show started. I'd rather
Speaker 1: just get into the play and then love it and
Speaker 1: then at the end be like, you guys are amazing.
Speaker 1: So I think of that movies like that, I want
Speaker 1: to watch don't don't show me names. I want to
Speaker 1: see your movie, and then at the end, I'm like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, all those people did a great job, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Well, I agree with that unless you were creative with
Speaker 4: how like Baby Driver has an amazing, amazing opening credit
Speaker 4: sequence with him dancing and the you know, walking across
Speaker 4: the street and the names coming up in the background.
Speaker 4: Same thing with Deadpool, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's not for everything. There's incredible title sequences,
Speaker 1: of course, I you know, seven was like one of
Speaker 1: the most incredible title sequences ever. But I just mean,
Speaker 1: I guess for my style films, I just like to
Speaker 1: get into the story.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I especially don't like it if you don't like it,
Speaker 1: Like it's one thing, if you're doing like a title sequence,
Speaker 1: I especially don't like it if like the movies started,
Speaker 1: you know, like TV shows, you're watching TV, especially like
Speaker 1: Scrubs is a great example, and like, you know, six
Speaker 1: minutes into the fucking show, there's still names appearing because
Speaker 1: there's so many people that obviously deservedly deserve their credit.
Speaker 1: And I think that's great, but you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we're still seeing names. The show's like half over.
Speaker 4: Right right by the time you get gotten to directed by,
Speaker 4: we're at the commercial break.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that. What else can I tell you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I had a fun night out the city. It's so
Speaker 1: beautiful and christmasy here.
Speaker 2: It's not Christmasy here.
Speaker 1: It is not even there's not a good place to
Speaker 1: spend Christmas at all.
Speaker 4: It is like it's it my kid. You know what
Speaker 4: my kid said to me. He said, Dad, I just
Speaker 4: want to see snow for one time in my life.
Speaker 1: Should get one of them.
Speaker 4: I was like, wait a second, I haven't. He's like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to see fake snow. I want to
Speaker 4: see freaking I want to see the ship come from
Speaker 4: the sky. I want to feel how cold it is
Speaker 4: when it snows.
Speaker 1: Has your kid never seen snow?
Speaker 4: No, because we don't ski or anything like that, right,
Speaker 4: and so like Tom and all that shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can take them to the mountains and not
Speaker 1: have them ski.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I can.
Speaker 1: I can already hear Donald's brain being like, there's bears
Speaker 1: in the mountains.
Speaker 4: Right right away, I'm like, what if we get caught
Speaker 4: in a snowstorm?
Speaker 1: I know Donald's Donald's got Donald's got the most neurotic brain,
Speaker 1: like he's not, He's not. I know him so well
Speaker 1: that he's thinking of like what if we need snow
Speaker 1: shoes and we don't have snow shoes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right away, right away.
Speaker 1: I don't have chains on my tires.
Speaker 4: If we do they have Do they have electrical outlets
Speaker 4: to plug my car.
Speaker 2: Into in the middle of the in the middle of
Speaker 2: the woods. They don't. These are things? Wait you you
Speaker 2: hung out with fifty cent for real?
Speaker 3: Uh? No?
Speaker 1: I was at we stopped by a Christmas party where
Speaker 1: he all of a sudden performed and I was like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: that's cool.
Speaker 2: That is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you cared about me?
Speaker 2: Did he do that one? Did he do that? Did
Speaker 2: he do?
Speaker 1: Think that's the one? But I'm a motherfucking p I
Speaker 1: M P.
Speaker 2: I love that song.
Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Joelle? How you doing?
Speaker 5: I'm so good. I just spent an insane amount of
Speaker 5: money on Kendrick Omire tickets, but I didn't want to
Speaker 5: miss the event, and I'm very excited about it, and
Speaker 5: I just keep looking at them and I'm like, it's
Speaker 5: gonna be the greatest concert of all time. And la
Speaker 5: off of the super Bowl March cankis I want to say.
Speaker 2: You didn't want to wait for the super Bowl. The
Speaker 2: super Bowl is going to be a pretty good concert too.
Speaker 2: I imagine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not going to the super Bowl. Tickets are
Speaker 5: crazy expensive. He's gonna be at the New Dodgers Stadium
Speaker 5: performing in March, so it'll be like right after the
Speaker 5: super Bowl, so let'll just bleed right into it. It's
Speaker 5: gonna be great.
Speaker 1: Listen. I was with Andrew Watt last night and I
Speaker 1: was singing Christmas Carls in the Streets and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, because I reposted the baby It's Cold outside
Speaker 1: that Donald and I did years ago, and while I
Speaker 1: was singing Christmas Carl's chest Nuts roasting not an open fun,
Speaker 1: I was like, Donald and I should do a Christmas
Speaker 1: album and he goes, he goes, I'll produce one song.
Speaker 1: And I go, what do you mean? And he goes,
Speaker 1: I'll right, you guys, one original Christmas song for the album.
Speaker 4: We got to write a wit so we could get
Speaker 4: paid for them, so we can get them royalties, bro,
Speaker 4: we can get them, Mariah Carroll.
Speaker 1: That's where your your head goes. First. I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: we can do old standards. I want to do it
Speaker 1: like with the orchestra, like like Seth McFarlane does with
Speaker 1: the orchestra. I want to do it with an orchestra
Speaker 1: and get stars maybe. And then and then, but Andrews
Speaker 1: said he would write us one original Christmas song.
Speaker 4: Right, and we got to write it with him because
Speaker 4: that's how Mariah Carrey gets all that money every year,
Speaker 4: her and freaking in.
Speaker 1: The monetary route. I'm just thinking, like, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a fire album.
Speaker 4: I know the album. I'm not worried about the album
Speaker 4: being fire. I already know that's that's that's that's gonna
Speaker 4: happen regardless. But what's important is that we can open
Speaker 4: up the vault. Thank you every Christmas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Mariah, Like Mariah, she.
Speaker 2: Makes something like twenty million dollars every Christmas.
Speaker 1: Is that real or is that just internet rumor?
Speaker 4: How many times get on that? How many times have
Speaker 4: you heard that song already?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't really listen to now you don't have to.
Speaker 2: Listen to the radio. That ship's on television too.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm surprised you didn't go to the open
Speaker 4: mic last night and hear a version of that ship.
Speaker 2: Now we stopped by.
Speaker 1: We stopped by, and Andrew just played guitar for a
Speaker 1: second and we left. It was cool, but we didn't.
Speaker 1: There wasn't like we weren't there long enough for people
Speaker 1: to be like, I know, well a lot of fun kusu.
Speaker 2: Annie, come on, okay.
Speaker 5: Mariah Carey herself has said that she makes three million
Speaker 5: dollars a year just from all I Want from Christmas
Speaker 5: is You? Not the Christmas album, but just that one song.
Speaker 4: Three million dollars a year just from the single alone.
Speaker 2: That is a Christmas that all of us deserve to
Speaker 2: have feeling.
Speaker 1: Mariah probably doesn't even notice that three million going the
Speaker 1: bank account.
Speaker 4: I bet you she does. I bet you she goes.
Speaker 4: Every year she goes, how much did we make this year?
Speaker 3: Three million?
Speaker 2: Riot?
Speaker 1: She think like, Mariah making three million dollars is like
Speaker 1: you making a hundred bucks?
Speaker 2: No, I know when I make a hundred bucks. Bro
Speaker 2: my name.
Speaker 1: Somebody calls Mariah like, hey, the thirty million came in.
Speaker 1: She's like, I can't talk right now. I'm on the treadmill.
Speaker 5: You see the video over her doing the treadmill and heels.
Speaker 1: She's so a stepmaster I think, wasn't it the step Master?
Speaker 5: It might have been step Master. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: What do they call it? Step master? Is that what
Speaker 1: that machine's called?
Speaker 5: Stare Master?
Speaker 1: I was from stare Master. That was from her cribs?
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, back in the day, it was like a.
Speaker 1: Classic TV clip of her doing with with like with
Speaker 1: high pumps.
Speaker 2: Was she singing and doing it?
Speaker 1: No, she was like you know remember old school cribs.
Speaker 1: You'd give a tour and she'd be like, this is
Speaker 1: my workout room and she was like in pump heels
Speaker 1: on the StairMaster.
Speaker 4: I never understood that. I never and you can't do
Speaker 4: that in this day and age. Man you can't do
Speaker 4: a cribs this day in age.
Speaker 1: Well, you will see like flex about your fucking wealth.
Speaker 2: And they will come and rob your ass too.
Speaker 5: Even rentals, Like most of the cribs places were rentals
Speaker 5: and people live there. That's true.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's only for somebody's cares. I don't think Redman's
Speaker 4: was a rental because this dude was walking around like
Speaker 4: a hell I live in an apartment in Brick City?
Speaker 1: Was that real?
Speaker 3: Yo?
Speaker 6: Dude?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Man, yeah, my god. It was a wild didn't he
Speaker 7: have a freezer with money in it? He put some
Speaker 7: doorway for the future freeze the dough.
Speaker 1: Who could we get to produce our Christmas album? Donald?
Speaker 1: We need like a no, he's not going to do that.
Speaker 5: About who.
Speaker 1: Charlie Charlie we need? He's not going to produce a
Speaker 1: Christmas album for us. We need someone who's like gonna
Speaker 1: give us the time.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: By the way, did you ever get any emails with
Speaker 1: anyone saying about what they would do with Donald's.
Speaker 5: We have a couple of d ms confirming that, just
Speaker 5: a couple. Listen audio. Here's the d ms I I
Speaker 5: have acces. I don't check all of my d MS
Speaker 5: were like, wow, yeah, no, Donald can totally get it
Speaker 5: on OnlyFans and he would make a lot of money.
Speaker 5: Let me I could check our Gmail and see if
Speaker 5: we have any.
Speaker 1: Because well check the Gmail because we asked for audio
Speaker 1: and I would love.
Speaker 5: To hear some ado. Okay, yeah, if.
Speaker 1: You have any, you could share your screen. By the way,
Speaker 1: when I posted when I posted the baby It's Cold
Speaker 1: Outside video, the funniest comments where this is the content
Speaker 1: I want to see on Donald's only fans.
Speaker 4: Do you remember when everybody was like, baby it's cold
Speaker 4: outside shouldn't be sung.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand why, but uh.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, with all the music that's out today.
Speaker 1: No, I know, but I you know whatever, people. I
Speaker 1: understand people are having problems with it. But I posted
Speaker 1: the clip that didn't have the controversial lyrics, although it
Speaker 1: did have Hey what he drink? Yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: it's because it was you and me. It was okay,
Speaker 1: well you got anything, You're smiling?
Speaker 5: Hold on getting into the out Donald, What.
Speaker 1: Are you getting your kids for Christmas? You're getting them
Speaker 1: Oh you told me video computers for video games.
Speaker 2: Yes, so look this is what we're doing. Kids are
Speaker 2: really into.
Speaker 4: The YouTube culture where you play video game like like
Speaker 4: what Daniel Daniel does the twitch called Twitter. Yeah, they're
Speaker 4: very into it. My daughter wants to do something that's
Speaker 4: similar to a podcast where you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So we were like, what we can do is we
Speaker 4: can buy the equipment for it and they can pretend
Speaker 4: to do it, but every really never goes anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I make sure you don't upload like
Speaker 1: the Wilder phase on podcast. God knows what I's gonna say, right.
Speaker 1: Did you see that that viral video of the little girl.
Speaker 1: I guess her mom said you can go in the
Speaker 1: bathroom and curse. And she goes in the bathroom and
Speaker 1: just starts cursing. That was the funniest thing I ever saw.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of you can see her running out
Speaker 1: of curses and she's trying to think of him. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bunch of them. There's a bunch of them.
Speaker 1: This one, This one was so funny. I guess I
Speaker 1: guess the context was her mom was like, I will
Speaker 1: give you thirty seconds and you can go in the
Speaker 1: bathroom and you can say whatever curses you want. It
Speaker 1: was so funny, but then she runs out and she's.
Speaker 2: Like, jerk, Uh are you happy to be in New York.
Speaker 1: I'm having so much fun. I'm going to see a
Speaker 1: play with Josh Raiden tonight.
Speaker 2: I'm jealous.
Speaker 1: The whole Lawrence Posse is coming into town. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see Bill and we're gonna go to restaurants and we're
Speaker 1: seeing We're going to see Audiram McDonald and Gypsy opening nights.
Speaker 2: So jealous.
Speaker 4: Oh, good fucking joous my soul.
Speaker 1: Audra McDonald, you know I love that show. I have
Speaker 1: such a place, special place in my heart for that show.
Speaker 1: I was I did it. I was involved with it
Speaker 1: when I was a kid in community theater. I just
Speaker 1: I've always.
Speaker 2: Loved that original Shirley McLain.
Speaker 1: No it was I think a Jel Lands No, No, no, really, no, no,
Speaker 1: she did it maybe second I just read this, Uh all.
Speaker 4: I remember was I remember the Shirley McClain poster, and
Speaker 4: I remember the Debbie.
Speaker 1: Allen postern Oh my gosh, scha Welle's doing so original.
Speaker 4: Listen when I was younger. I'm gonna I'm gonna date myself.
Speaker 4: She's played my mom in in In the next day,
Speaker 4: or she played my mom. But I was so in
Speaker 4: love with Debbie Allen. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Everybody's like Felicia were shot. I was like, no, Debbie.
Speaker 1: Allen, Okay, here we go. This is someone who was
Speaker 1: asked if he would tune in if Donald had an
Speaker 1: only fans Hey, Joell.
Speaker 3: My name is Luke Stige.
Speaker 8: I am not only a gay man that would subscribe
Speaker 8: to Donald's only fans account because I love you Donald,
Speaker 8: You're everything.
Speaker 5: But I am also as a side gig.
Speaker 8: I managed some of my friend's only fans account to
Speaker 8: have popular only fans, and so I have a little
Speaker 8: bit of analytics here for you. I not only do
Speaker 8: I run like women's only fans accounts. I run a
Speaker 8: man's only fans account.
Speaker 2: And I will.
Speaker 8: Say I would say there are women's subscribers, it's a
Speaker 8: low percent, probably ten to fifteen percent. It's mostly gay
Speaker 8: men subscribing to men's only fans accounts.
Speaker 9: And as far as content, you know, the man he
Speaker 9: just like kind of makes. It's like stupid contents like
Speaker 9: oh me jerking off with my bro or.
Speaker 5: That's er off.
Speaker 8: Of your friends, or can I see you you know,
Speaker 8: not doing that. A lot of gay men like one
Speaker 8: like solo content, which is kind of abnormal because with
Speaker 8: the women's accounts that I run, they use the women's
Speaker 8: be like sex tapes any here. I have a lot
Speaker 8: more info on it. If you ever want anymore only
Speaker 8: fans content, let me know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to we need to have one the show.
Speaker 2: You need to be on the show.
Speaker 8: I've been listening since.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, watch Kid, thank you you guys.
Speaker 8: I love you AnyWho Okay, bye.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Back at Great Joe and pull him as
Speaker 1: a guest.
Speaker 5: He needs to.
Speaker 4: Come on it, and we need to have a conversation
Speaker 4: about what I need to do to get my only
Speaker 4: fans popping so I can make this animated short.
Speaker 2: This animated short is going to be made well, he says.
Speaker 3: Money.
Speaker 1: Y'all listen, he said. The number one thing is like,
Speaker 1: I'm beating off with my bro, and I just want
Speaker 1: you to know that I'm not going to be your brother.
Speaker 2: Totally going to be my bro.
Speaker 1: No, I don't care about animation. I don't give a
Speaker 1: funk about your animation. I'm not going to beat off
Speaker 1: on your only fans, Joel, are there any others?
Speaker 2: Do you know how much money we would make?
Speaker 5: Money, appreciate them for you next time.
Speaker 1: As much like Donald's only Fans, you have successfully edged
Speaker 1: me and I am chillated to no more. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: don't I'm sorry to spoil anyone who thinks they're having
Speaker 1: a real relationship with an OnlyFans person, But the people
Speaker 1: who who who manage these accounts are guys like that.
Speaker 4: You know, there are people I don't have an only
Speaker 4: fans relationship. I have a real relationship with my wife,
Speaker 4: so I can't.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure there's people with low amounts of
Speaker 1: followers who maybe are doing the communicating. I'm guessing I
Speaker 1: don't know. But anyone who's who's gotten a huge following
Speaker 1: and there's some guy in the d M is being like,
Speaker 1: she's texting me how my day is? And it's like
Speaker 1: literally that guy in his car being like, hey babe,
Speaker 1: thinking of you, and the guy is thinking like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's this OnlyFans mode, right.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, trip by Bree just hit me up.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, we got another.
Speaker 5: One to quick voicemail from a female fans. Let's see
Speaker 5: what she has to say.
Speaker 10: Yes, Hi, Joelle, I don't know if you'll remember me.
Speaker 10: My name is Timika. I'm the Spanish teacher from New
Speaker 10: Jersey who sent a few voicemailoris about trying really hard
Speaker 10: to like season nine of Scrubs and just not being
Speaker 10: able to get there. I was listening to today's episode
Speaker 10: and the only fans conversation that's continuing, and you didn't
Speaker 10: ask for feedback from straight women, But I thought i'd
Speaker 10: be helpful and put the question to Bed about whether
Speaker 10: or not straight women are subscribing to OnlyFans, And the
Speaker 10: answer is a fuckingly not. The reason is supine demand.
Speaker 10: There is no dick shortage for us. They show up
Speaker 10: in any text messages, they show up on dating apps,
Speaker 10: They show up whether or not you want them, and
Speaker 10: never actually ask for them. So no, you don't go
Speaker 10: online and subscribe to dixieing services.
Speaker 5: It's basic economics.
Speaker 10: However, I do think there is an OnlyFans avenue for you, Donald.
Speaker 10: Everyone enjoys looking at someone who is attractive, which you are.
Speaker 10: Don't let these people dim or shine. But behavior tends
Speaker 10: to be very stimulating for women because behavior lets us
Speaker 10: infer things about what kind of lover you'll be. I'm
Speaker 10: pretty sure someone smart said that the brain is the
Speaker 10: greatest sex organ or something like that. So I think
Speaker 10: your golden ticket may be to start and only fans
Speaker 10: focused on behavior that women want to see and are lacking.
Speaker 10: I hear married women are exhausted, and maybe they'd pay
Speaker 10: to watch a man share the mental and emotional load
Speaker 10: of running a home without expecting praise or sex in return,
Speaker 10: like in the rom cons or in the romance novels.
Speaker 2: That make us swoon.
Speaker 10: So like do the dishes and vacuum and help with
Speaker 10: kids homework, and like.
Speaker 2: Just do it, sn't expect It's exactly.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna say that their husbands would probably fit the
Speaker 10: bill because they'll be happy to have their wives hot
Speaker 10: in the pants and you could make your money. Just
Speaker 10: don't do it naked, because we are good on dick
Speaker 10: and balls for thought. On happy holidays everyone.
Speaker 1: Well, Mika coming through again.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say something. She has a great idea. I
Speaker 4: think I could do an only fans where I'm washing dishes,
Speaker 4: I'm cooking food, I'm helping my kids with their homework.
Speaker 4: I mean I do wash dishes, I do cook the food.
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily help with the homework. Case he's way smarter.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, excuse me, she's way smarter than me in
Speaker 4: that capacity. But I mean, I think I could do
Speaker 4: that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: Right, But isn't it interesting what Tamika finds sexy is
Speaker 1: exactly what the sex therapist said you should be doing
Speaker 1: to turn your own wife on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I expect sex after that, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying Tamika is agreeing with the the sex therapy.
Speaker 1: She's saying, like, women don't want to see dicks. We
Speaker 1: get dicks everywhere, dick picks sent to us. We don't
Speaker 1: want that. We would be hot and bothered by you
Speaker 1: being doing the dishes, helping around the house. Chore what
Speaker 1: do they call it? Chor play?
Speaker 2: Sure? Play? Look, I am down to do it for
Speaker 2: animation money.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I think about that. Thank you, Timika.
Speaker 4: That was great, Thank you, Tamika. I am down to
Speaker 4: make some animation money.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Washing, I don't know that I'm gonna subscribe to your
Speaker 1: only fans watching you watch washed dishes.
Speaker 2: Well, a mixture, it'd be a mixture.
Speaker 1: Be a lot of times you don't know somedays, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of times you don't know that you're into
Speaker 1: a kink until you see.
Speaker 4: It, right, you know, I mean it could be you
Speaker 4: and me washing dish. Hey, you're just washing dishes with
Speaker 4: my bro and we'm saying.
Speaker 1: If I'm watching it for all I know, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not. Let's say I'm watching you wash dishes because
Speaker 1: I'm trying to support you. I've subscribed your only fans,
Speaker 1: I've bought the Donald washing dishes video. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm like rock Heart and I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 1: I never knew I had this kink.
Speaker 4: Wow, that would be very interesting. Yeah about it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gay if it's just dishes. Well, Joelle.
Speaker 5: Subtracted to the same sex, and then it qualifies as gay.
Speaker 5: I don't know if the.
Speaker 4: Actual all right, I shot a stand up comic saying
Speaker 4: this stand up car She was so funny, it was brilliant.
Speaker 4: She was like, you know, true sex equality and hatred
Speaker 4: and bigotry will be out the window when dudes can
Speaker 4: be like to their bros. Yo, you remember that time
Speaker 4: when I was gay for a little bit and they'd
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, man, you was fucking gay as fuck.
Speaker 4: From like two thousand and three to two thousand and
Speaker 4: four dog and then people she's like, and then the liberal,
Speaker 4: the liberal would be in back and be like bisexual and.
Speaker 2: They'd be like no, no, no, no, no, no, you as.
Speaker 4: Gay as fuck, dude, and they would be all right
Speaker 4: and they would be able to still be buddies and
Speaker 4: ship like that. That's when Bigo tree, you know, that's
Speaker 4: when Bigotree is out the window.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Is here pizza? Six seven?
Speaker 6: Eight? Stories about show? We made about a bunch of
Speaker 6: talks and nurses.
Speaker 2: And I said, here's the stories, net No, so YadA
Speaker 2: rall here, yeada ra here swear for me?
Speaker 1: No, oh my god, wow, Ted, that's welcome to the program.
Speaker 1: That is Joel Monique are our producer.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you and Donald have met before.
Speaker 1: Do you guys know each other?
Speaker 2: Did we meet at Christmas party?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, yeah, yes, it was quite a pleasure for me.
Speaker 2: It was a pleasure for me as well. You have
Speaker 2: no idea.
Speaker 3: I've been a big fan of yours for a long time.
Speaker 3: Even I've never seen scrubs. You know.
Speaker 2: Ever, he's not.
Speaker 1: He's not lying. And the reason he's not lying. We'll
Speaker 1: get right into it. Audience is that there were two
Speaker 1: men who were up for the at the end for
Speaker 1: doctor Cox, and one was John McGinley and one was
Speaker 1: Ted McGinley.
Speaker 3: And so drove me at that day. Oh sorry, I
Speaker 3: was gonna say, I drove a lot that day. And
Speaker 3: I got to the guard and he said what's your name?
Speaker 3: And I said McGinley, And he goes, sure, it's already
Speaker 3: McGinley here, and I said, no, I'm I'm also, what
Speaker 3: sh are you testing for? It? Scrubs? He's already here.
Speaker 3: Nice try No, I'm the other one. I didn't know,
Speaker 3: so I was surprised and it went downhill from there.
Speaker 1: What happened at your audition? Did you did you feel
Speaker 1: that it didn't go well? Or did it go well?
Speaker 1: And then Johnny was just more right in Bill's mind?
Speaker 4: How did that?
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny. I you know, you go
Speaker 3: to many auditions leading up to that, right to that
Speaker 3: moment when you go to the to the studio. So
Speaker 3: I've had a lot of really good auditions. I felt
Speaker 3: great about the character, and I thought I had a
Speaker 3: good shot. I knew there were two people going. I
Speaker 3: didn't know who the other one was, and thank god
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was John, And I think it
Speaker 3: went like all my auditions probably went very poorly.
Speaker 2: Right, Are you a bad auditioner?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said that in the past. He's not a
Speaker 1: good auditioner. We'll talk about that because I'm curious when
Speaker 1: you're at Donald agrees with you. But why, why what
Speaker 1: happens to you? We have a lot of actors that listen.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'd love to you're now. You're a very
Speaker 1: successful actor, so people probably want to know what happens.
Speaker 3: I'm nervous. I'm a nervous auditioner, I think, and it
Speaker 3: makes it it makes it tricky. I'm also dyslexic, so
Speaker 3: if I'm on paper, I can do anything on paper.
Speaker 3: So I always try to, you know, get everything into
Speaker 3: my head, and then i'm it's just too many things
Speaker 3: going on. So yeah, I seem to be better once
Speaker 3: I have the job. I feel a little more secure.
Speaker 3: I feel like the people don't hate me. I have
Speaker 3: a lot of that actor stuff going, but I just
Speaker 3: don't think. I've just never really. My wife's an amazing
Speaker 3: audition she she's so good at it, and so I
Speaker 3: watched people who are who are excellent. I just said,
Speaker 3: how come I don't have any of that in me?
Speaker 2: I wondered the same thing. I feel like I've missed
Speaker 2: out on so much.
Speaker 4: And I think I have a really great career, but
Speaker 4: I feel like I've missed out on so much because
Speaker 4: of my fear of auditioning. Like I've there's parts where
Speaker 4: they were like, they love you and they want you
Speaker 4: for the part, they just need you to audition, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, fuck it, I'm not going in.
Speaker 3: That's exactly going in the same with me, exactly the
Speaker 3: same is that I just, you know, I know I'm
Speaker 3: their pick, and then I go in and I just
Speaker 3: I put too much on it, and then I just
Speaker 3: always I think when I started in on Happy Days,
Speaker 3: I always felt like the other side of the table
Speaker 3: hated me, the producers and the directors, and so I
Speaker 3: think I carried that, and I think maybe they did,
Speaker 3: but they carried through, just carried through.
Speaker 1: You know, Ted, you probably don't know this, but Donald
Speaker 1: fucked up his Scrubs audition too, and Donald you can
Speaker 1: tell the story. But Bill found him at the elevator
Speaker 1: and was like, bro, what was that again? Brought it
Speaker 1: back in right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well he said.
Speaker 4: We were all waiting in the lobby for the announcement,
Speaker 4: who was going to go home and everything like that,
Speaker 4: and he came out and he was like, all right,
Speaker 4: everybody can go Donald, you stay. Yeah, and everybody immediately thought,
Speaker 4: oh shit, he got the part.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I walk into the waiting room, and before we walk
Speaker 4: into the room with all of this with Jeff Zucker
Speaker 4: and the rest of the studio in there and the network,
Speaker 4: and he stops me and goes, now, look, you really
Speaker 4: did a you fucked up in that first audition.
Speaker 2: And he said I kind of get a sense that
Speaker 2: you know you did too. I need you to go
Speaker 2: in there and do it like you did it all
Speaker 2: these other times.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh shit, did you know what
Speaker 1: you had? Did you know what he meant?
Speaker 4: I was so big I got you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I was like, here we go, it's me again. Don't
Speaker 4: o'fashuns back. And he was like, dude, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Calm down? Yeah, bring it down there, Yeah, that's me,
Speaker 2: that's me.
Speaker 4: Bring it down, and let's do it again. And this time,
Speaker 4: try and be as real as possible. Don't go for
Speaker 4: the jokes, just be real. And I went in there
Speaker 4: and that's what happened. I just I said forget trying
Speaker 4: to go for the jokes, and then I got the
Speaker 4: call later on it. I got the part that night,
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh god, man, I thought, I
Speaker 4: thought this was going to be like there's so many
Speaker 4: movies that I went out for and this is this
Speaker 4: is why I started smoking weed too while acting no bullshit,
Speaker 4: because I thought, maybe this will calm me down, maybe
Speaker 4: this will make me relax a little bit.
Speaker 2: And it never it it.
Speaker 4: I remember my agent saying, the part is yours. All
Speaker 4: you got to do is go in there an audition.
Speaker 4: And I went in an audition and I could tell
Speaker 4: halfway through I lost the job.
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many you know, for those of
Speaker 1: you who aren't actors, there's so many variables. You have
Speaker 1: the you have your nervous energy, you have what happened
Speaker 1: to you that morning, you have whatever's going on in
Speaker 1: your mind from your life, your family, your partner. Then
Speaker 1: you go into the waiting room and there's all the
Speaker 1: energy of the waiting room. You might see a star,
Speaker 1: a bigger you know. When I live in a room
Speaker 1: was me and scrubs. I was a waiter and I
Speaker 1: saw stars in the waiting room. I was like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck am I doing here? I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get this. That guy's famous. And then sometimes you can
Speaker 1: hear the people going in the room and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm not doing it like that? Is
Speaker 1: that what they want?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then there's also these mind games in the waiting
Speaker 1: room where actors will try and distract you. They'll try
Speaker 1: and like engage you in conversations, so you're not even
Speaker 1: like like focusing and thinking about the sides. You're like
Speaker 1: shooting the shit with some guy who sometimes is trying
Speaker 1: to fucking sabotage you. There's all this dynamics, and then
Speaker 1: you can go into the room and they've had a
Speaker 1: bad day and they're tired and they're not laughing at you,
Speaker 1: and then you just get in your head and like, oh,
Speaker 1: I suck. You know, there's so many things tell is
Speaker 1: on the way there.
Speaker 3: You have a contract to be signed for the next
Speaker 3: seven years of your life. So if you happen to
Speaker 3: be a waiter, you know when they make these deals,
Speaker 3: they're like seven years long, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: overnight your life changes. So that adds to this, especially
Speaker 3: if you have kids and a family. That is it's
Speaker 3: so real. It's it's so unreally real that it adds
Speaker 3: so much on there. But I think I just really
Speaker 3: got the bad habit of thinking that everybody on the
Speaker 3: other side already doesn't like me, and that you know,
Speaker 3: It's very funny. When I first started the business, before
Speaker 3: I had any idea what I was doing, I would
Speaker 3: go up for things, and if they didn't hire me,
Speaker 3: I always felt bad for them. I was like, oh, wow,
Speaker 3: you blew it too bad. I mean, you blew a
Speaker 3: good thing. And then as time goes by, you sort
Speaker 3: of walk in the room like, I know, I know,
Speaker 3: I know I'm not right for this, but I'm gonna
Speaker 3: throw it up there anyway. And and you've been beaten
Speaker 3: down by so many times by that point and just
Speaker 3: go I get it. I wouldn't pick me either. There's
Speaker 3: that element that is heartbreaking, but it's part of the
Speaker 3: history of your I mean, after a while, I admire
Speaker 3: people who just say I should.
Speaker 4: Have this, Yeah, you know, I gotta be. There's there's
Speaker 4: two things that this this industry does to you that's
Speaker 4: so fucked up, but it's what it is, and I
Speaker 4: get it. If you come off of something hot, like,
Speaker 4: you know, I did a play that Steve Martin wrote
Speaker 4: with a really dope cast, and I felt so good
Speaker 4: about where I was as an actor. Went on a
Speaker 4: bunch of auditions and didn't get shipped, and I couldn't
Speaker 4: under I was that shit was like, wait a second, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: I just did fucking eight shows a week at fucking
Speaker 4: the Old Globe.
Speaker 5: How am I not?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: How how do they not see what the audio? I
Speaker 2: was killing it on that shit.
Speaker 4: I was also on a television show where everybody was like, yo,
Speaker 4: Donald Daison has graduated from comedy to drama. And I
Speaker 4: thought after that X Men would be calling, fucking Marvel
Speaker 4: would be all these my Star Wars is going to
Speaker 4: be calling, and nobody fucking called.
Speaker 2: And it was like what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Everybody just said how good I was and nobody's calling.
Speaker 4: It's such a mind fuck. This industry is so humbling
Speaker 4: and and and look I said it before, I think
Speaker 4: I did pretty well for myself. Ted, I know you
Speaker 4: did great for yourself, but there's just that feeling of
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not good enough. You hear knows so
Speaker 4: much in this industry that that one, yes, it doesn't
Speaker 4: really change the It doesn't change the the uh, the
Speaker 4: thought process in your head.
Speaker 2: It doesn't take away the insecurity. It freaking you. Hear
Speaker 2: knows so much that that one.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's gratifying and it's great and you feel
Speaker 4: good for that split second, but you know that could
Speaker 4: be taken away too.
Speaker 2: I got fired, dude, I got fired after a table
Speaker 2: read once.
Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: I didn't even get to really, I didn't even really
Speaker 2: get to do this shit the way I wanted to
Speaker 2: do it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, it's just I'm surprised that I'll get fired after
Speaker 3: every table reading. I am right, every single table reading.
Speaker 3: But you know, so you bring up a great point,
Speaker 3: like I think the business. You're the one who doesn't
Speaker 3: like the business is the framing. The thing you have
Speaker 3: to hang on to. You can't the business is the business.
Speaker 3: And Tom Bosley told me when I was on happy Days,
Speaker 3: he said, look, if you can't handle this, you've got
Speaker 3: to get out now. And I had two very disappointing
Speaker 3: I was up for two features leads and he said,
Speaker 3: and I had with terry eyed and said, dude, if
Speaker 3: you can't handle this. You've got to get out right now.
Speaker 3: This is not for you. And I remember that was
Speaker 3: I thought at the time was such an asshole comment.
Speaker 3: It happened to be one of the most accurate statements
Speaker 3: ever ever given to me. That it just keeps repeating
Speaker 3: itself over. No, but I'm giving you cannot give those
Speaker 3: people that permission to I still get to come home.
Speaker 3: The know that hurts me the most is when I
Speaker 3: give it myself, when I look in the mirror and
Speaker 3: I go, no, that's the one that kills That's the
Speaker 3: one that hurts you know, believe.
Speaker 1: Well, Ted, I want to start with I want to
Speaker 1: go back to happy Days because that's where it all
Speaker 1: began for you. You came onto the show. Do I
Speaker 1: understand it?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: When Ron Howard was leaving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So during the Actors Strike at the time, his
Speaker 3: contract ran up and Ron wanted to direct and ABC
Speaker 3: wouldn't let him direct. So head of NBC at the time,
Speaker 3: I think it was Grant Tinker, said no, I'll let
Speaker 3: you direct, and he went over there and did a
Speaker 3: TV movie with Anton Williams and Betty Davis I think,
Speaker 3: and that was it. Ron Squer took off as a director,
Speaker 3: as it should have, and he came back. But we
Speaker 3: had a softball team that toured around the country and
Speaker 3: throughout Germany, and they eventually went around the world, but
Speaker 3: I was working, but they they played softball at all
Speaker 3: these troops from the troops throughout Europe and the United States.
Speaker 3: And so that's when I got to meet Ron. And
Speaker 3: that was the only time I really got to hang
Speaker 3: out with Ron. But yeah, that's why I got into
Speaker 3: the show. And they were looking for a straight man
Speaker 3: opposite Henry Winkler, opposite the Fonts, and Gary Marshall saw
Speaker 3: something in me that he thought he could work with.
Speaker 1: Well that's quite an honor because Gary Marshall was about
Speaker 1: as big as it gets in TV at the time.
Speaker 1: He was nice, he was more than that man, No
Speaker 1: I know, of course, he went on to be an
Speaker 1: incredible filmmaker. I'm saying at the time, and I highly
Speaker 1: I've said this before, but get Gary Marshall's autobiography on tape.
Speaker 1: It is incredible to hear him his voice tell his
Speaker 1: story and there's so many funny anecdotes. I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: heard it, Ted, but I really loved it and he
Speaker 1: was you know I had some not only we did
Speaker 1: chicken little together there he was my father in the
Speaker 1: animated we would chick a little, but also he went.
Speaker 1: He was a very big benefactor in Northwestern where I
Speaker 1: went to school. Yes, and he would and he would come,
Speaker 1: he would come speak, and so I really really loved
Speaker 1: that man a lot. And I wonder if you could
Speaker 1: talk about what it was like to work with him,
Speaker 1: because he's he was such a legend in the industry.
Speaker 3: It was a very interesting time because Pierry was transitioning
Speaker 3: from he was just trying to make that change from
Speaker 3: TV to film, and so he wasn't as day to
Speaker 3: day involved in the show as he was previous to
Speaker 3: my time there, apparently. But we had Laverna Shirley right
Speaker 3: next to us, so we shared the stage with them,
Speaker 3: and they had massive chaos and people would be throwing
Speaker 3: scripts and counting lines and yeah, it was just a
Speaker 3: thing familiar. It was craziness. It was a great introduction
Speaker 3: for me. And my dressing room was outside the stage.
Speaker 3: Everybody else was inside the stage, so I was out
Speaker 3: kind of next I was. I was outside, so I
Speaker 3: would see the chaos constantly and hear them. Uh. It
Speaker 3: was it was crazy, and Gary used to Gary would
Speaker 3: always pull me aside and say it's gonna be good.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be good. And that meant a lot from
Speaker 3: Gary because he wasn't effusive. Uh, but that meant a
Speaker 3: lot because I wasn't really getting that anywhere else. And
Speaker 3: I felt bad for Henry Winkler because he went from
Speaker 3: working with one of the best stars in the world,
Speaker 3: one of the greatest U sidekicks ever, Ron Howard, to
Speaker 3: a guy who had never done anything and had no
Speaker 3: idea of where the joke was and the timing was
Speaker 3: any of them. And so I learned a lot from Henry.
Speaker 3: It's very generous, and you know, through the week he
Speaker 3: kind of put me through it a little bit, and
Speaker 3: then on Fridays he would because it was secrets whim
Speaker 3: we had, we had to put it out there. He
Speaker 3: was just I learned so much being around that cast
Speaker 3: and around Henry. But those were tough days because I
Speaker 3: knew I wasn't up the bar, but I didn't know,
Speaker 3: and I just I really didn't know what this world
Speaker 3: was and I wanted to stick around long enough to
Speaker 3: see what it was. Anyway, Gary's a guy who finds
Speaker 3: types of people and then figures out how to how
Speaker 3: to make it work and find their little magic. And
Speaker 3: for me it was a godsend. Gary Marshall was, I
Speaker 3: would say, the most important person in my career.
Speaker 1: Wow, well he really he really invested in you because
Speaker 1: you were you hadn't really worked, right. I know you're
Speaker 1: working as a model, but had you done any acting before?
Speaker 3: No? I had a no And I had a little
Speaker 3: TV movie where I was hired as a model to
Speaker 3: run in the first scene of the beach, you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm running and jack Albertson comes up next to
Speaker 3: me and I blow him away. And then I'm in
Speaker 3: the last scene of the movie and jack Albertson's there
Speaker 3: and I'm running with him, and all a sudden he
Speaker 3: starts keeping up with me after he's been through his journey. Now,
Speaker 3: that was my first thing, but I had, you know,
Speaker 3: I was like, come on, old man or something. That
Speaker 3: was my big lung. But that's so yeah. Happy Days
Speaker 3: was my first gig, and you know, Gary, Gary took
Speaker 3: a risk on me, and then he put me in
Speaker 3: a pilot called Herndon and Me, which was directed by
Speaker 3: Gary Marshall, written by Lowell Gans and Babbelo two monsters
Speaker 3: at the time, and it was for ABC, and it
Speaker 3: started myself and Michael Richards. Wow, And Michael Richards was
Speaker 3: doing Kramer in that project at the time, and he
Speaker 3: we had a scene where he flipped over a chair
Speaker 3: and broke three ribs on a couch and that was
Speaker 3: the but the kind of messed up the timing of
Speaker 3: our of our pilots who had to take two and
Speaker 3: a half week saw Oh my god. Anyway, So Gary,
Speaker 3: Gary put a lot of faith of me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that says a lot.
Speaker 4: I love the story about Henry also, though you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like Henry was the same.
Speaker 2: Way with me.
Speaker 4: I had I had a really bad day on Clueless
Speaker 4: and he was directing the episode. I was like an
Speaker 4: hour and a half late. I still had booze on
Speaker 4: my breath from the club that night. And he intercepted
Speaker 4: me after I've rushed through hair and makeup and everything
Speaker 4: and stopped me and was like, it's okay, you're not
Speaker 4: We're not going to fucking have an issue about this.
Speaker 4: You're gonna be fine. I need you to come in
Speaker 4: here and do what you do, And in doing so,
Speaker 4: he put me at a. I'm not saying what I
Speaker 4: did was correct, but I had a really bad day,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And from that moment on,
Speaker 4: he was so giving with not only his time but
Speaker 4: also with his knowledge of the comedic craft and what
Speaker 4: I needed to do to make it better.
Speaker 2: And I doubt I would never I would never show
Speaker 2: to work like that ever again. I was like, I'll
Speaker 2: never be this guy ever again. Flash forward. I did
Speaker 2: it a couple of times again, But that's not the point.
Speaker 2: The point is. The point is Henry. Henry Winkler was
Speaker 2: so generous with his knowledge and his time.
Speaker 4: We had him on the podcast and I was great,
Speaker 4: and I was able to thank him for it and
Speaker 4: all of the things that we all the things that
Speaker 4: you and I are talking about, the fear of auditioning.
Speaker 4: Whenever I would bring that up, he would be like,
Speaker 4: all right now, Donald. You know, it was like he
Speaker 4: was like my my, my TV dad or my TV uncle.
Speaker 4: Who was there to reassure me? Dude, all of that
Speaker 4: shit's in your head. You got to get rid of that.
Speaker 4: You got to drop that stuff.
Speaker 2: You are who you are, and that's and that's and
Speaker 2: that's good enough pretty much.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I always knew going home
Speaker 3: I was who I was. Yeah, you know that's why
Speaker 3: my home has always been a sacred place for me,
Speaker 3: because I know I'm okay here. I know I've done
Speaker 3: everything that I've done it to my highest level here,
Speaker 3: and so I'm very proud of being a good dad.
Speaker 3: I think that's why I was put on this world
Speaker 3: and and for trying to be a good husband. But
Speaker 3: I so so that really matters to me, like because
Speaker 3: that's my safe place. That is the place where when
Speaker 3: I get hurt, I come in and I heal. And
Speaker 3: so this place I don't ever want it to be
Speaker 3: injured or rocky, but out in the world I expect it.
Speaker 3: I figure, you got to be tough and if you
Speaker 3: want to play, if you want to play in that
Speaker 3: in this arena, you're going to take some serious wounds.
Speaker 3: And I guess that's how it goes.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, we'll be right back after these
Speaker 1: fine words. With that, Let's just continue on and like
Speaker 1: in some of the major things you're on. Then you
Speaker 1: want to how many years did you do love boat?
Speaker 3: I think I did three and a half seasons. Uh,
Speaker 3: I so same thing. So when I after I auditioned
Speaker 3: for Happy Days. I did it in a room with
Speaker 3: some executives and I didn't know they were They were
Speaker 3: in Gary's office. And for two weeks I was going
Speaker 3: back and forth between this other show and where they
Speaker 3: called me in one day work with the people, and
Speaker 3: call in the next day and I'd work with the
Speaker 3: direct casting directors. And finally Gary Marshall asked first, and
Speaker 3: I got to be unhappy guess. So then I did
Speaker 3: a couple of guest spots on the Love Boat. And
Speaker 3: while I was there, they said, Hey, when Happy Days ended,
Speaker 3: would you like to come in as a as a regularism? Sure, yeah,
Speaker 3: why not? I loved that cast. It was so nice
Speaker 3: and they treated you like a king. You got first
Speaker 3: class trips for you and a guest everywhere. We traveled
Speaker 3: all over the world. It was spectacular. I mean, that
Speaker 3: was a great great I didn't know.
Speaker 1: So were you shooting on a real boat, Well, you're.
Speaker 3: Shooting on a stage.
Speaker 6: And then.
Speaker 3: So it would be theyasically two months out of the
Speaker 3: year you would be on a ship. So for at
Speaker 3: least six weeks it would be two three two hour shows.
Speaker 3: It'd be about two weeks each, so it'd be about
Speaker 3: six to seven weeks. You'd be out on a ship.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And you'd stay on the boat.
Speaker 3: Yes, and they I mean, you were treated like a king.
Speaker 3: And then they would invite people to be on the ship.
Speaker 3: So regular folks were just on the ship while we
Speaker 3: were shooting and they got to hang out with you.
Speaker 3: You know. I would be in the casino every night
Speaker 3: and they would be in there, or we'd be dancing
Speaker 3: or whatever it was, and just regular folks were there.
Speaker 3: It was really fun. How they could go into certain
Speaker 3: rooms at certain times, would be cable all over the boat.
Speaker 3: I kind of felt sorry for me, but it was
Speaker 3: they knew what they were getting into and they loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 2: They were literally on the love boat.
Speaker 1: They were on the love Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was that was a It put me
Speaker 3: in a weird, you know, weird category all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: and it was hard to kind of get out of
Speaker 3: that one. And then we smashed it open with married
Speaker 3: with children.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's so let's talk about Let's wait, let's go
Speaker 4: back first, because Revenge of the Nerds needs to be
Speaker 4: talked about.
Speaker 3: Me.
Speaker 1: I was focusing on TV first, Donald, and we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Go back my bad, my bad, because okay, thank you
Speaker 2: for bringing up though.
Speaker 1: Well, Donald and I have a very special place in
Speaker 1: our heart throven that.
Speaker 4: Is, that's one of my favorite movies of all time,
Speaker 4: even though that's not pc to say.
Speaker 1: Now nowadays it's a very problematic film. But we're not
Speaker 1: going to talk about that. We're only talking about the
Speaker 1: good parts of the movie. That's right, that all around,
Speaker 1: but Sweet Married with Children. That was really a new
Speaker 1: take on the sitcom. Right It was Fox as Fox's sitcom,
Speaker 1: and they were going to be outrageous, right yeah.
Speaker 3: They wanted to go They wanted to do the exact
Speaker 3: opposite of Family Ties the Cosby Show. They wanted to
Speaker 3: do something that would rock the boat. And they did.
Speaker 1: They did, They started did That was an enormous hit,
Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, and you came and you came.
Speaker 4: On later too, though you you weren't in the beginning.
Speaker 4: There was another person and then they killed him off
Speaker 4: and what you on?
Speaker 3: Right, Well, yeah, he wanted to go do Broadway. He
Speaker 3: was a Broadway actor and wanted to go back to
Speaker 3: his roots. And I think also it happens where initially
Speaker 3: they pitched the show as something and then two of
Speaker 3: the characters also out Bunny just tastes off and the
Speaker 3: Bundy family, and I think he felt like, hey, I'm
Speaker 3: right here, but so he wanted to go do other things.
Speaker 3: And the greatest thing that ever happened to me was
Speaker 3: that he decided to leave, and he did very well.
Speaker 3: He's done, He's he's done well. But dam Garrison, and I,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm so thankful to him to have a decision.
Speaker 3: But I went into Married and my parents used to
Speaker 3: come with me to Happy Days and we'd have these
Speaker 3: big parties after every show with the Castle, you know, Taxi,
Speaker 3: Laverne and Shirley loosing buddies. We would all go to
Speaker 3: this place called Nikodill's outside of Paramount and everybody was
Speaker 3: in there on a Friday night and it was so
Speaker 3: much fun in those days. And my parents were invited.
Speaker 3: Everybody was invited if you do them. So we went
Speaker 3: in there. And then when I got onto the Married
Speaker 3: with Children and my parents came to the first show,
Speaker 3: they were like, what the hell is this? Yeah, and
Speaker 3: it was so much fun. Again. That cast from day
Speaker 3: one just said come in, bring whatever you've got and
Speaker 3: we love it. And I I was so expecting the opposite,
Speaker 3: and they couldn't have been better. I loved that job.
Speaker 3: We had so much fun.
Speaker 1: I bet you were laughing your asses off. No one
Speaker 1: really does that, now, do they. There's no like R
Speaker 1: rated sitcom which would be funny. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I know it's all animated. Yeah, it's all animated.
Speaker 2: Family Guy is the version of Married with Children.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm surprised no one does like whatever the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four Riskue version of a sitcom would be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you I found we did. There are
Speaker 3: a lot of people who think they are by the way,
Speaker 3: but you know they're not.
Speaker 2: They're not.
Speaker 1: No, I see, I see what you're saying about Family
Speaker 1: Guys like kind of the version of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they Simpsons is really Married with Children, just
Speaker 3: in a different run.
Speaker 2: But they also ripped they also, sorry to cut you off,
Speaker 2: they ripped you off.
Speaker 4: Also with that other show, there was a show with
Speaker 4: uh Kevin Connolly was the kid on it and Nicky
Speaker 4: Cox was the daughter.
Speaker 2: And it was pretty much the same shit. It was
Speaker 2: the same show, but it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Uh. I'm trying to remember Ronny Levitt if he had
Speaker 3: something to do with it. I can't I do remember that.
Speaker 3: I can't remember it.
Speaker 2: Do you remember this?
Speaker 4: It was the exact same shows, like they tried to
Speaker 4: make the exact same show. Uh yeah they did anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 4: well something something was married with children.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you a funny story though. Sorry with married,
Speaker 3: I never got a call time. Ever you would. You
Speaker 3: would look at the script and you'd say, oh, on
Speaker 3: the rewrite. And by the way, in those days, you
Speaker 3: had to wait for the script guy to drop off
Speaker 3: your script. So you go on a Monday, if you
Speaker 3: write it Tuesday, or you wrote it each day, you
Speaker 3: get a new script. But I would get mine like
Speaker 3: two morning. I'd wake up at like eleven every day.
Speaker 3: You know, I checked in the front door because I
Speaker 3: can't read it like everybody else does. So I would
Speaker 3: go through it. I think, oh my god, I'll be
Speaker 3: up all night looking. So then we would we would
Speaker 3: go there. But you would say, okay, I'm in the
Speaker 3: third scene, so that means we start at ten. That
Speaker 3: means I come in at eleven. Ten. You just make
Speaker 3: it up. Nobody said you come in at this time ever,
Speaker 3: not one time. So I'm around cult that doesn't exist
Speaker 3: in our business. It was just we ran it ourselves
Speaker 3: in that regard, and then if you were late, they
Speaker 3: would sit around the couch. They would go get food,
Speaker 3: and everyone would sit around the couch like a family
Speaker 3: and just talk poorly about you until you showed up,
Speaker 3: and then they would go. I mean, it was so
Speaker 3: much fun. It was such a great game. All right.
Speaker 1: Now we have to talk about Revenge of the Nerds,
Speaker 1: because this movie was like Donald and I were the
Speaker 1: target demo for this movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, and.
Speaker 1: I remember identifying with the nerds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I identified with the jocks.
Speaker 1: You did, you did?
Speaker 2: I did. I played sports and everything like that.
Speaker 4: And you know, in my neighborhood, if you weren't if
Speaker 4: you weren't into sports, you weren't into anything, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So like the artist in my neighborhood,
Speaker 4: like I learned how to play basketball, I learned how
Speaker 4: to play football.
Speaker 2: I learned how to play baseball. Also I could be cool,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And so that was me.
Speaker 2: I identified with the I identified with the jocks. I
Speaker 2: get it. You identified with the nerds.
Speaker 1: I identified you with Lamar.
Speaker 2: No, well, I did love Lamar too. That was the
Speaker 2: wrapping part of the whole movie.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. The end of the end of that
Speaker 1: movie with the with the performance is just that's not
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 2: That's that's not the end.
Speaker 1: No, well, I'm saying when it builds, when it builds
Speaker 1: to the performance. But anyways, so, ted I I read
Speaker 1: that when you got to set there was actually like
Speaker 1: friction between the jocks and the nerds, like off like
Speaker 1: on set, like for real, you got older?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I didn't. I didn't know that, right. So
Speaker 3: we show up and I think perhaps I wasn't astute
Speaker 3: enough in technique to know that some guys maybe work
Speaker 3: where if they're going to be opposite you and adversarially,
Speaker 3: they stay that way in character kind of right throughout
Speaker 3: the process of the show, where sometimes people won't talk
Speaker 3: to you for an entire movie off camera. But but
Speaker 3: I thought it was presumptuous to say the least that
Speaker 3: that's how if that's what they were doing. Uh. But
Speaker 3: so we went down there and in the beginning, they
Speaker 3: wouldn't give me the time of day, and they would
Speaker 3: get together.
Speaker 1: Nerd nerds, the nerds as a group. The nerds didn't
Speaker 1: targe you, and they would exclude I was, They would
Speaker 1: have nerd they would have nerd parties, yeah, well they.
Speaker 3: Didn't this early age. They were massive parties. So yeah,
Speaker 3: the the jocks weren't really invited now Ogre, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I haven't talked to Don about that. But it wasn't
Speaker 3: until we started doing all night episodes where we had
Speaker 3: to work all night long for about a little over
Speaker 3: two weeks, where we were stuck with each other, we
Speaker 3: had to hang out all night, the nationally started to
Speaker 3: break break the ice and start to find that we
Speaker 3: had a lot in common. That turned that turned to
Speaker 3: be mashal And. I mean the parties would start. The
Speaker 3: parties then would start at six in the morning, so
Speaker 3: you would work all night and they would come back
Speaker 3: and then start the party.
Speaker 1: And then that woman who played six a Night, that
Speaker 1: woman that played Betty. I was right at the age
Speaker 1: where things in my body were turning on, like things
Speaker 1: were shifting. Yes, And I was like Betty, like I
Speaker 1: didn't know what she just she shifted my whole mind.
Speaker 1: I was like, I couldn't, I couldn't. I was so
Speaker 1: in love with her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she today, she's still amazing, Julian Montgomery, but she
Speaker 3: she is so recently, I just went down to Mexico
Speaker 3: and I got hired to go down. There's a group
Speaker 3: of people apparently who loved the nineteen eighties shows, and
Speaker 3: so they all music that shows. So I went down
Speaker 3: to a resort in Mexico and it's inclusive all and
Speaker 3: you spend a couple of days with all these people
Speaker 3: and take photographs with him, and it was so much fun.
Speaker 3: They all showed up and dressed half of them stand
Speaker 3: Gable and Benny Child's anyway, so the Nerds apparently have
Speaker 3: been doing this as a group where they tour around,
Speaker 3: they go around and sign autographs.
Speaker 1: They've been doing They're still excluding you this many years later.
Speaker 3: They are. By the way, the love Blode excludes me,
Speaker 3: Happyess excludes me. Really, Nerds excludes me, and I expect
Speaker 3: shrinking will too soon.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we got talking about shrinking, dude. I
Speaker 2: want to get to that.
Speaker 3: I don't know because I don't think social media, so
Speaker 3: I don't stay in contact with people.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to say. If any of the
Speaker 1: Nerds from Revenge of the Nerds are listening to this podcast,
Speaker 1: I want you to. It's been too many years and
Speaker 1: you need to starting. Poor Ogre probably spends his weekends
Speaker 1: in the fetal position because he's not being.
Speaker 2: Oker. Became a nerd.
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: It became a nerd? What about Booger? Does Booger go?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Does Lamar?
Speaker 1: Does a Mark throw a javelin?
Speaker 2: Larry?
Speaker 3: When all the party was going he was a badass
Speaker 3: as Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was, sincerely he didn't have a limprest and throwing style.
Speaker 5: That was.
Speaker 1: That was the funniest thing when they said they designed
Speaker 1: the javelin for Lamar's limpers.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you the secret. When we started the Nerds,
Speaker 3: I actually played two parts. I played a twin brother
Speaker 3: who was who was a nerd. So I had Stan
Speaker 3: Gable had a twin brother who was a nerd. And
Speaker 3: they cut it out after day three. They said, the
Speaker 3: movie's not going to go. It's not what the movie is.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna we're gonna get rid of because that
Speaker 3: would be its own movie, really movie. Yeah, but no
Speaker 3: one ever talks about that. I think all those guys
Speaker 3: forgot about it anyway. So we we're down in Mexico.
Speaker 3: I ran into all those guys. It was so much
Speaker 3: fun and we were They never heard my side of
Speaker 3: anything because they hang out together all timate they never
Speaker 3: heard me talk about how unfriendly they were, and and uh,
Speaker 3: you know there was real adversaries that they're like, what
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? It? It was, it was interesting.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun to see them.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't expect to get I don't like
Speaker 1: I don't like it. The nerds don't treat Ted McGinley right.
Speaker 1: If you are one of the nerds, we'd like you
Speaker 1: to call in and explain yourselves, especially if you're Lamar.
Speaker 1: We want to talk about your limpristed throwing style.
Speaker 3: All right, No one more, one more funny story on it.
Speaker 3: So I'm I get contacted through my agent. There's a
Speaker 3: lady in uh, Connecticut whose husband has try lambs. He
Speaker 3: and his entire three brothers, all his family has try
Speaker 3: lambs tattooed on their forum. And for his fortieth birthday,
Speaker 3: he wants me to fly back and have dinner with them.
Speaker 3: And they're gonna fly me first class, they're gonna pay me,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna go back there and sit with these
Speaker 3: guys and I wouldn't surprise him at dinner.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: It was that you forget how much that movie meant
Speaker 3: to some people in the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Donald and I were the right age
Speaker 1: where we would just like thought it was. I was
Speaker 1: probably too young to be seeing it, but I did
Speaker 1: see it, and I just thought it was the funniest
Speaker 1: fucking thing I'd ever seen. And I guess because probably
Speaker 1: because I did feel nerdy and and was was intimidated
Speaker 1: by jocks and I don't know, I was like the
Speaker 1: perfect target demo for it. And then and then there
Speaker 1: was Betty.
Speaker 2: I love the jokes.
Speaker 4: I thought the jokes were hilarious, and I thought, you know,
Speaker 4: and I know a lot of them can't be. I know,
Speaker 4: a lot of the stuff that's in that movie can't
Speaker 4: actually be. You go to jail for a lot of that.
Speaker 1: Well, we acknowledged it's problematic in some ways, but we
Speaker 1: can still appreciate segments of.
Speaker 4: It that that changed my I remember my friends telling
Speaker 4: me I needed to see it, and then finally seeing
Speaker 4: it and thinking, this is the most cutting edge movie
Speaker 4: I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2: I freaking like.
Speaker 4: Cutting dude, I laughed so well, come on, man, his
Speaker 4: limp wristed throwing style to this day, That and the
Speaker 4: and the tricycle race.
Speaker 1: And the song and the song and the song. I mean,
Speaker 1: the song was like the funniest fucking thing.
Speaker 3: I think. I think, I think that song is written
Speaker 3: by Tom Newman, who's been nominated really numerous Academy Awards
Speaker 3: for scoring major films.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Thomas Newman's legend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not only Mary one of those people connected
Speaker 3: to that film. By the way, Ted Fields, our cinematographer,
Speaker 3: They all went on to big things after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. No, all right,
Speaker 1: let's segue to Shrinking. I have to say I'm lucky
Speaker 1: enough to have a front row seat to watching what's
Speaker 1: happening to you at Shrinking and what's happening are tricking.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of what happened to Neil Flynn on Scrubs,
Speaker 1: but even in a bigger way, because as hilarious. You know,
Speaker 1: Neil Flynn was in the pilot and he was supposed
Speaker 1: to have Scrubs. He's supposed to have a small part
Speaker 1: of the janitor, and he was so incredible that Bill
Speaker 1: just kept giving him more and more and more to do.
Speaker 1: But he was always because he was always you know,
Speaker 1: because he was always so crazy. He was the janitor
Speaker 1: and the character was so wacky it was sort of
Speaker 1: capped at how much he could do. What's happening with
Speaker 1: you on Shrinking is so thrilling as a fan of
Speaker 1: yours to watch because you started with just having quips,
Speaker 1: as you Bill would call it. Bill used to call
Speaker 1: these guys his assassins on scrubs who could just walk
Speaker 1: by sayah, one liner and and and make everybody die laughing.
Speaker 1: Rob Rob Mashio was the king of that. And then
Speaker 1: I've watched over the seasons. Now your part. If you
Speaker 1: look at a graph, it's just skyrocketing because you are
Speaker 1: killing it on the show, and everybody loves you. Anytime
Speaker 1: anyone knows I have anything to do with the show,
Speaker 1: they go, oh my god, I love Derek. He's so funny.
Speaker 4: I need to tell you before before you say it,
Speaker 4: before you say it, I'm trying to find out if
Speaker 4: my wife is home because she wanted me to tell
Speaker 4: you you made her cry. You made her cry in
Speaker 4: U because uh, with your scene with Josh Hopkins, you
Speaker 4: made she is uh. She is a forever fan. She
Speaker 4: was a fan before, but she is a forever fan now.
Speaker 4: And it's it's it's it's it's a it's an amazing story.
Speaker 4: So well, I'll let you take it.
Speaker 1: But my wife loves you all right now now you speak.
Speaker 3: That is very sweet both of you. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: I would be remiss if I don't start by saying, Zach,
Speaker 3: you're an amazing director. Like the energy that he brings
Speaker 3: to a set and Donald you must know is yes,
Speaker 3: it's there's no one like it. I mean, it's so
Speaker 3: much fun. And the one thing that I appreciate, because
Speaker 3: I've been directed by many many actors, is that when
Speaker 3: I come, I mean, when Zach comes to the set,
Speaker 3: he's a director. He's looking for attention as a director.
Speaker 3: He's not trying to be anything else other than be
Speaker 3: a director and be a really good one. And he's
Speaker 3: always prepared. I just and you can trust his judgment,
Speaker 3: will try it, you know. I love that. I love
Speaker 3: being able to trust the director because you know, they
Speaker 3: know funny but two, they're only in it to make
Speaker 3: the whole better. And it's so it's really a compliment
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: I tell him that all the time. I tell him
Speaker 2: that all the time.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, dude, you're you're a better director than
Speaker 4: you are an actor, and but you're a really good actor.
Speaker 2: I always preface it. I always like, you're a really
Speaker 2: good actor too.
Speaker 3: Man. That's like when people say to me, oh god,
Speaker 3: you're well, you've got great hair. I had nothing to
Speaker 3: do with the hair. I'm trying to do a scene here.
Speaker 1: But but but but it speaks to just the experience
Speaker 1: because obviously Bill is a huge fan of yours, and
Speaker 1: and he knows I think he We've spoken about how
Speaker 1: he's like Ted is not a great auditioner, but he's
Speaker 1: a brilliant performer. And so with this thing, I didn't
Speaker 1: ask him an audition. I know how funny he is.
Speaker 1: I just put him in the show because I love him.
Speaker 1: And and I know Christa had A had A had
Speaker 1: a voice in it too. She wanted a husband she
Speaker 1: was definitely attracted to. And you qualify and and and
Speaker 1: and then but then it was it was like you
Speaker 1: just you can see that he's increasing and increasing his
Speaker 1: h his the use of the character.
Speaker 9: Well, I found.
Speaker 3: It was hard because when I first got there, literally
Speaker 3: first days, just walked through the scene and with your
Speaker 3: dog and and you know, say just walking the dog.
Speaker 3: I didn't want uh, and I was gonna do it
Speaker 3: with with an attitude, and Bill said, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's nice. He's nice. He's and he'll sometimes say things
Speaker 3: that that you shouldn't say, but he says it nicely,
Speaker 3: so you get away with it. And so then I
Speaker 3: started to grab on to that and and but I
Speaker 3: had had no background, and I had nothing on the guy,
Speaker 3: and I could figure out what do I do.
Speaker 2: Oh, hello, this is Casey com.
Speaker 1: Right, good to see you. She's stopping by it to
Speaker 1: tell you we have we have here a genuine fan
Speaker 1: of yours. She wants to say her piece. Go ahead, Casey, No.
Speaker 3: I.
Speaker 11: Know I always have a couple of pieces to say,
Speaker 11: but I'll just leave it at this one.
Speaker 2: But I watched the episode.
Speaker 11: I don't know which episode was, but it was when
Speaker 11: you know, you had just found out that she had
Speaker 11: kissed the other guy, and you go to Jessica and
Speaker 11: you're having like your heart to heart or therapy session
Speaker 11: or whatever, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have to tell you made me cry.
Speaker 3: You're very sweet. I like to say that is just
Speaker 3: honestly brilliant writing. And it's just like you stand hold
Speaker 3: on on the rope and let him pull you. And
Speaker 3: Christy doesn't get enough credit because she wats this fine
Speaker 3: type rope of so many different tough things to play.
Speaker 3: Just sitting next to her, I get more credit than
Speaker 3: I should. But you're very sweet to say that. I'm
Speaker 3: I never get I was just so honored that they
Speaker 3: trusted me enough to take a chance with that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I know, it was great because I feel like
Speaker 11: I'm at the age of my life where I kind
Speaker 11: of identify with Christa's character in that sense.
Speaker 2: Not to not to make some.
Speaker 11: But you know, you know, the kids are getting older,
Speaker 11: you don't you're at home all the time, you do
Speaker 11: so much, but you don't really feel like you're important
Speaker 11: enough and all those things.
Speaker 2: So I'm always, you know.
Speaker 11: Champ trying to champion that character. But to see you
Speaker 11: and your take on it in your side and it
Speaker 11: was just so I just I got so emotional. I
Speaker 11: texted Bill at eleven o'clock at night. I texted Zach so,
Speaker 11: I thought, you did such a great job showing the
Speaker 11: flip side of it, Like, yeah, it sucks for women,
Speaker 11: but it also sucks for men too, who are trying
Speaker 11: to be great husbands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know how at home it's he feels safe
Speaker 2: at home. That's his safe space at home, because he
Speaker 2: loves being a great dad and he loves being here.
Speaker 2: He tries to be a great husband.
Speaker 1: It was just all right, Casey, you don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of time, so put your husband back on. No,
Speaker 1: don't let her, please, no, Casey, get the hell out
Speaker 1: of here.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 3: I love you too. I like how you spell your name.
Speaker 1: So, uh, where where do you think is gonna happen
Speaker 1: with Derek? I mean I was a little surprised, to
Speaker 1: be honest that and I know this is the writing,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not up to you. But I was
Speaker 1: surprised that Bill resolved it so so quickly. I thought
Speaker 1: that there might be you know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: is your reaction to that.
Speaker 3: I was it didn't It made me nervous that they
Speaker 3: resolved it so quickly. However, you know, it's not there
Speaker 3: show and there's a lot to go on. And I
Speaker 3: thought what was really cool was how real an adult
Speaker 3: they handle instead of me walking in there with a pistol,
Speaker 3: you know, they made it a real situation. And I
Speaker 3: liked how. I liked how when you have a family
Speaker 3: and you have all these things, you have to keep going,
Speaker 3: and I just thought it was real. I thought they didn't.
Speaker 3: I'm always amazed at how wonderful they see the world
Speaker 3: and how well they're able to actually set an outline
Speaker 3: for you and then sends you on your way.
Speaker 1: I just think it's there's a lot of deep there's
Speaker 1: a lot of giggling from people that know them well
Speaker 1: that you're kind of playing a version of Bill. And
Speaker 1: he certainly writes stuff for you that he wishes he
Speaker 1: could say to his wife, but he's afraid to. There's
Speaker 1: a moment, there's a great moment in season one where
Speaker 1: you where you're alike, where she's telling you that you're
Speaker 1: not Umilia will hang around the house and You're like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm retiring. I'm the one who's been out there doing stuff.
Speaker 1: You can do whatever the hell you want, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to do whatever the hell I want in this house.
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, of course, And all I can think of
Speaker 1: as I was watching it was like, this is what
Speaker 1: Bill would love to say to Christian, but he's afraid you. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: didn't he say something like that to you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: What did he say to you?
Speaker 1: And on the Police Center panel, you on the panel.
Speaker 3: He said, that's exactly what I want to say, what
Speaker 3: I would like to say, but I know I get killed,
Speaker 3: so he lets me say. But he did tell me afterwards,
Speaker 3: he said, that is it. And that's the first time
Speaker 3: he said to me, that's me. That's what I want
Speaker 3: to say. If I could get away with it, that's
Speaker 3: what I would say. And I thought, Okay, there's more.
Speaker 3: There's there's Bill inside of Derek, and uh, their relationship
Speaker 3: is is very complicated Bill and Christa because he's the
Speaker 3: he's the supreme being, he's the boss, but yet she's
Speaker 3: really the boss. And uh, you know, when he walks
Speaker 3: on a set and we're doing something, she says, how
Speaker 3: about this? He says, no, that's not funny. Uh. And
Speaker 3: if I said that, I would be beaten. Uh my
Speaker 3: wife would be you know. But they've worked out how
Speaker 3: to say it to each other.
Speaker 1: They have an incredible they have an incredible dynamic where
Speaker 1: she's she's definitely a tough boss at home and but
Speaker 1: he gets to be the tough boss to work.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, in the second he walks through the door,
Speaker 3: it's all gone, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's funny because I hang out.
Speaker 2: I wonder if she ever if she's ever like you.
Speaker 2: So you remember when you were getting all brolicky and
Speaker 2: all loud with me on set. Today, we're gonna we're
Speaker 2: gonna talk about that now.
Speaker 3: She she is such a pro. She all she really understands.
Speaker 3: It's part of their method. It's part of the method.
Speaker 3: And then if he's talking to everybody in those situations,
Speaker 3: and it's so impressive. I just love how she is
Speaker 3: so selfless sometimes to be able to take over. And
Speaker 3: by the way, rarely does she do something where he's
Speaker 3: saying no, I'll do it the other way. That's funny,
Speaker 3: but she'll say, well, I don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 3: And they have that ability to like he'll listen and
Speaker 3: he'll say, no, do it that one. Then they'll say, no,
Speaker 3: you know what, You're right, go back do.
Speaker 2: It the other way.
Speaker 3: It's just rare. They work in rare air.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's such as such an incredible cast, and
Speaker 1: you know, with all those big personalities and all those
Speaker 1: big names. I just love as as a fan of
Speaker 1: yours as a human and as a as an actor.
Speaker 1: I just love watching you rise through it all because
Speaker 1: you know, he has so many actors to service from
Speaker 1: Harrison Ford and Jason and Jessica and Michael Ury and
Speaker 1: Krista and everyone and Lukeita and Luke and little by little,
Speaker 1: I'm just watching, like your screen time and increase, and
Speaker 1: now you've got scenes with Harrison, and now you've got
Speaker 1: these moving, dramatic scenes. And I'm just so happy for you, Ted,
Speaker 1: because I just I think you're fantastic and and I
Speaker 1: love watching it happen.
Speaker 4: And we've been and we've been fans for a really
Speaker 4: long time watching you also, and that is no bullship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So to to.
Speaker 2: See this, to see this and you get in your
Speaker 2: come up and as they say.
Speaker 1: Yes, you've come Really, you've come a long way from
Speaker 1: eating a pie and saying that's my pie, that's my pie.
Speaker 4: Well, that's my pie's that's one of my favorite person
Speaker 4: in the movie.
Speaker 2: That's how's the pie taste?
Speaker 3: All right? Maybe this isday If you go to those conventions,
Speaker 3: she still has those pies and she has put right
Speaker 3: over the perfect spots and she signs them for you.
Speaker 3: She travels with her pies.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Donald, we got to go to one
Speaker 1: of these conventions. Donald Donald and I are the target
Speaker 1: demo for these conventions.
Speaker 2: It would be an honor.
Speaker 1: Ted will let you go. Thank you so much. We
Speaker 1: really appreciate you, and everyone check out Drinking It's. It's
Speaker 1: on Apple TV plus. It's uh it's it's in its
Speaker 1: second season, which is about to conclude, and there's going
Speaker 1: to be a third season, and uh, it's an excellent show.
Speaker 3: And you are you will be directing in the third season.
Speaker 1: I am going to be directing I believe episodes three
Speaker 1: and four. You're hearing it first episodes three and four
Speaker 1: of season three.
Speaker 3: Nice, You're so funny because but he shows up with
Speaker 3: this massive load of energy. He's NonStop after two weeks.
Speaker 3: He's just a waif of a human being. He just
Speaker 3: has nothing. He's given literally every he has.
Speaker 1: It's hard listen, look at the look at the amount
Speaker 1: of personalities on that show. And we shoot an episode
Speaker 1: in six and a half days, and it's a big set,
Speaker 1: it's a big crew, it's a lot of personalities. So
Speaker 1: by the yeah, by the time I'm done directing too
Speaker 1: in a row, I definitely need some time in the
Speaker 1: fetal position. All right, But thank you so much, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: What a great guest dude.
Speaker 3: I love him.
Speaker 1: He's the nicest man ever. He really is such a sweetheart.
Speaker 4: He not only that, he's you know, he's such a
Speaker 4: good actor too. We didn't even get into the West Wing,
Speaker 4: we didn't get into Sports Night like.
Speaker 1: He's he's not over one hundred episodes of TV I read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a lot of experience in this industry.
Speaker 1: But when you're with him on set, he's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's no ego, he's just warm. He's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I got a funny idea, what if I do in
Speaker 1: one take this? And You're like, that's great, do that,
Speaker 1: And he's so he's so grateful to be there. He's
Speaker 1: just he couldn't. He's one of the one of the
Speaker 1: nicest actors I've ever worked with. Yeah, unlike the Diva.
Speaker 2: Don you wish you could say that about me?
Speaker 4: Bro I don't know why you take that as a
Speaker 4: as a disc Man, I think you're a great actor.
Speaker 2: I just think that your directing style.
Speaker 4: Is there are very few people who can direct the
Speaker 4: way you direct, man, And I've worked with a lot
Speaker 4: of directors.
Speaker 2: And you are one of my favorites by far.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, And you get that and you
Speaker 4: get that act and you get this and you get
Speaker 4: this acknowledgement from other actors too. Like Ted says this stuff,
Speaker 4: Harrison Ford has said this stuff. And he's worked with
Speaker 4: a lot of actors too, I mean our directors also.
Speaker 1: Harrison still hasn't worked with very good directors. I'm the
Speaker 1: first great director oka.
Speaker 3: O.
Speaker 1: No, it means a lot to me, thank you. I
Speaker 1: love directing. I feel like of all the skill sets
Speaker 1: that I've developed over all the years I have been
Speaker 1: doing this, and my first audition was like at thirteen.
Speaker 1: And I love photography and I love music, and I
Speaker 1: love actors and I love set design, and so I
Speaker 1: feel like all the things I love in the world
Speaker 1: to come together in one job, and that's directing. So
Speaker 1: it's great to hear that that that that people like
Speaker 1: me doing it because it brings me so much joy.
Speaker 1: It's very hard and uh and challenging. But I do
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in my I'm in my I'm in
Speaker 1: the right spot when I'm doing it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: That's why I say you should direct Marvel, you should that,
Speaker 4: you should direct Star Wars.
Speaker 2: You should direct.
Speaker 4: Things like that, because it would bring a different take,
Speaker 4: a fresh take, but it would still but you're so
Speaker 4: good because you could still stay in the realm of
Speaker 4: what it is.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Kathy Kathleen Kennedy listens to the podcast, and so
Speaker 1: I'll have a show.
Speaker 2: Yes there, we'll be calling all right, everybody. We love you.
Speaker 1: That's our show.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Always have a beautiful week.
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