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Oh Baby Palmetfield. 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, three time Pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch and 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: thirteen year NFL veteran Drew Stanton. Well, we knew change 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: was coming, and it came real fast. One day after 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: the end of the regular season, two major changes. Kyle, 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: You and I on Cardinal Talk expected change. You have 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: to expect change after a four and thirteen season. Drew 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: just gets off the plane walks into everything that happened 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: twenty four hours ago. Case you missed it, Drew and 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: everyone else. Head coach Cliff Kingsbury Fire general manager Steve 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Kim stepping away from his GM duties no longer a 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: part of the organization. So now you got a whole 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: drew at both general manager and head coach. And if 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: we're all being roll honest with ourselves, based off the season, 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: based off what had been talked about, written about, set about, 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: probably not too much of a surprise. Yeah, well, there's 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: always going to be changes, but when they're this drastic 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: and this swift by Michael, it doesn't surprise you based 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: on what transpired it and you look at the team 29 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: and you always want to sit and look back and say, Okay, 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: there's a reason for optimism. There's a reason for this 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: fan base to get excited right now. If you look 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: at this team on paper, you look at where they're at, 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be an uphill climb and you need 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: strongly leadership. You need a unified front not only at 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: the GM spot but also the head coaching spot, and 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: they have to be able to work in unison. And 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: so you look at that and you don't know when 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: Kyler is going to be back. We saw that the 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: surgery was had taken place and was successful in all 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: those things. But there's going to be a lot of 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: moving pieces and a lot of speculation this entire offseason, 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: and the first thing that you have to do is 43 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: make sure that you go out and get the most 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: qualified candidate, whether it's in house or out of the building, 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: which you know, we have not seen from this organization 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: a long time. Initial reaction Kyle to getting the news 47 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: early Monday morning and then hearing from owner Michael Bidwell 48 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: later in the afternoon, I think it was expected. Um, Look, 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: it's it's not okay the way the season ended, the 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: way the record was, you know, some of the reoccurring things, 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, just the leading the league and penalties and 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: your home record and your late season collapses and your 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: your clock management and your your useage of timeouts and 54 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: being two and six and one score games, so all 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: of these things factor into it. Now I want to say, Um, 56 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think Cliff's coaching style has received a 57 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: lot of criticism. Um, but that's not to say it 58 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: won't work. It worked tremendously well at the beginning of 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: last season. Um, it works with other organizations. You just 60 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: need the exact right and makeup in the locker room 61 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: for his coaching style, and you know, it didn't seem 62 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: to mesh with the roster that they had this year. 63 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: And you know, to my point, look, all of the 64 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: blame for this season does not fall on Cliff Kingsbury 65 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: and it won't magically be fixed with a new head coach, 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: and all of the blame with the perceived problems with 67 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: the roster don't fall on Steve come there. The There 68 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: is plenty of fault to go around, and it should 69 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: be shared equally with the players that were on the 70 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: football field because they didn't always execute either. And so 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think this change with both the GM 72 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: and head coach, it comes at a good time. It's 73 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: you're not necessarily trying to find a head coach in 74 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: a GM that fit the current roster because with you know, 75 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: almost three dozen pending free agents, with you know, high 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: draft pick, there's gonna be a lot of turnover in 77 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: the roster. And you find a coach, you find a 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: GM with a philosophy, and you can start to match 79 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: that roster to their philosophy. No question, more change is coming, 80 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: but it began on Monday with the news that this 81 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: team is now looking for a general manager and a 82 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: head coach. Here is owner Michael Bidwell. We all thought 83 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: that we would take the next step up after having 84 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: achieved a playoff appearance last year. It didn't happen. The 85 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: people in this room and our fans know all the 86 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: reasons why, dating back to last year. That different factors 87 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: that worked against us. Still not an excuse, and we 88 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: expected better. I expect it better, and we deserve better. 89 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Four wins not good enough, regardless of what happened in 90 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: the offseason. During the regular season, end the year with 91 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: seven straight losses overall, the worst season since twenty eighteen. 92 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury let go after four seasons as head coach. 93 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: Steve come no longer the general manager, a position he 94 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: held since twenty thirteen, so now the search is on. 95 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: Here's more from the owner. The search has started for 96 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: both the general manager and for a head coach. We're 97 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: going to cast them that far and wide. We are 98 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: going to look at internal candidates and external candidates. We're 99 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: not looking at particularly offense or defense. The preference is 100 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: to get a general manager in place first, but if 101 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, we're not going to be afraid to 102 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: hire the right head coach. And I've already interviewed two 103 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: internal candidates for general manager, Adrian Wilson and Quentin Harris. 104 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: I've also interviewed one external candidate, and we've got interviews 105 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: later this week. No announcements as far as coaching candidates 106 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: just yet. But you heard Michael there say Kyle that 107 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: it doesn't specifically have to be an offensive minded head 108 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: coach or a defensive minded head coach. It seems like 109 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: you go from one to the other though that's typically 110 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: if you had an offensive coach, then you go defense 111 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: to offense, depending on what works what doesn't work. But 112 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: with you got this roster and naming the young quarterback, 113 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: maybe you lean a little more towards the offensive end, 114 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: but again a wide net according to the owner. Yeah, 115 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: I think concerning Kyler, I think what you need is 116 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: you need an offensive coordinator that fits with him, that 117 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: can get through to him, that can continue to help 118 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: him with his growth and his progression, not necessarily the 119 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: head coach. And you know, it just depends on who 120 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: it is and how it's set up, whether it is 121 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: a play caller as a head coach, or whether it's 122 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: truly a head coach and he has an offer it's 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: a coordinator and a defensive coordinator. But you know that's 124 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: a big factor. You know, we've talked about since Kyler 125 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: Murray was drafted by the Arizona Cardinals. In spite of 126 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: all the talent around him, this team will only go 127 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: as far as Kyler Murray takes them, and he is 128 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: a special, dynamic talent. And then you know, you've got 129 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: all these other factors with his injury and his rehab 130 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: and when he's available, and how quickly he can get 131 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: up to speed with a new system, how he can 132 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: get reps while he's rehabbing. You know, all of those 133 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: things are going to be a factor. But I think 134 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, look, Kyler is going to be here. He's 135 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: got the contract, We've locked him up, so you know 136 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: that's got to be almost priority number one for whoever 137 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: you bring in, is how are we going to get 138 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: the most out of Kyler Murray. When it comes to 139 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: internal and external candidates at general manager and head coach, 140 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: there's a feeling, Okay, internal, yeah, you know what you've 141 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: got because you've been around, whether it's the roster and 142 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: the staff. And then the benefit of going outside a 143 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: fresh set of eyes to look at what is needed 144 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: to get this team back into the postseason. Yeah, I mean, really, 145 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: what you're looking at, like Kyle was saying, is you 146 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: need somebody with a vision. You need somebody with the 147 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: philosophy as you were talking about before, that really is 148 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: going to come in here and imprint foundationally what they 149 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: want to stand for, what they're going to look at, 150 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: and that has to be built around Kyler Murray. It 151 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: has to be built around his development of what that 152 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: looks like. But I also think that it's hard, and 153 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: we've talked about on the show before. I think it's 154 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: extremely difficult because those are two different job requirements. And 155 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: you see again the cycle because of the sexiness of 156 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: being an offensive coordinator that some of these young offensive 157 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: coordinators they try and get out in ahead of the curve, 158 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: and they want these guys to be head coaches, and 159 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: half of them fail because they're not great leaders of men. 160 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: To be a great head coach, you have to be 161 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: leaders of men. You have to find different ways to 162 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: motivate people, and you have to find different ways to 163 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: bring everybody together and do all of those different things. 164 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: And it's extremely hard because so much goes into that 165 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: one job type and when you show up to the office, 166 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: you're doing ten things that are not XS and o's 167 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: related before you even think about started or what that 168 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: looks like for your football team. On the flip side, 169 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: when you're the offensive coordinator, all your soul focus is 170 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: just what are you doing? How can you make Kyler 171 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: Murray as good as possible? How can you get him 172 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: to buy in and get everybody else to follow. So, 173 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: whether that's internally, whether that's outside of the building, there's 174 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: going to be candidates. This is going to be a 175 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: job that people are excited about. I think on the outside, 176 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: some people may look at this and say, many they're 177 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: in bad shaped, only won four games, they're a year 178 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: removed from winning as many games as they did. They're 179 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: going to get a lot of pieces back, and again, 180 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: a lot of it comes down to coaching and being 181 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: able to get in here and infuse these guys and 182 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: get them excited about what it's going to be like. 183 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: Because you look at these these strong leaders that we're 184 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: starting to see rise up within the National Football League, 185 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: Guys like Dan Campbell that come to mind. They found 186 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: ways to connect with each and every player in that 187 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: locker room, and even when the hard times come, they 188 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: don't last. And that's the biggest thing that I think 189 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: that you need to understand is when you know it's 190 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: okay to lose one game here or there, but when 191 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: you go on these losing streaks, it's extremely detrimental and 192 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: that's where you start to lose the locker room. At 193 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: this point, as we speak here on this Tuesday, there 194 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: are four other head coach openings across the league Panthers, Colts, 195 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: Broncos and Texts and so, yeah, if you're owner Michael Bidwell, 196 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: the urgency is there. Oh yes, there's an incredible sense 197 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: of urgency. And believe me, I've been exchanging texts and 198 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: messages and phone calls and getting the input of a 199 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: lot of folks and trying to get a three hundred 200 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: and sixty degree view of a number of candidates. You know, 201 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: there is no fixed list at this point. I'm trying 202 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: to cast the net as far and wide as I can. 203 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: General manager preferred to be hired first, and I think 204 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: that's what any organization, whatever company you own, you want 205 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: the top hired first, Kyle, and then you kind of 206 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: go down the list because you don't want to have 207 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: someone come in and inherit something yet at the same time, 208 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: Michael was very honest. Look, if it goes the other 209 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: way based off my conversations, ultimately he has the final 210 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: say and whatever happens, general manager or a head coach. 211 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: But I would think we hear a general manager announcement 212 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: before a head coach announcement. Yeah, and I appreciate the 213 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: fact that he's casting a wide net. He's not he 214 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have a clear vision on exactly what he wants. 215 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: He's going in with an open mind. I mean, obviously 216 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: he has ideas about the things he would like to 217 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: change and the things he's looking for, but he's going 218 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: into this with an open mind. And I think you know, 219 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: other than you know the fact that there's other openings, 220 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, the urgency is there for a number of reasons. 221 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: And and as you said, a lot of times, you 222 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: want to hire the GM first because you want to 223 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: make sure that the GM and the head coach mession 224 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: their visions are aligned. So the GM often has some 225 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: input has a voice on the head coach that is hired. 226 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: But as we've talked about on this program before, the 227 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: gears of the NFL never stopped turning in the off season. 228 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: You know, immediately after the season. You've got to evaluate 229 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: your own free agents. They become a priority. Which ones 230 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: that you wanted to get resigned before free agency starts. 231 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: You've got to evaluate the players under contract. Can we 232 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: upgrade at this position? Is this somebody that we can 233 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: move forward with or do we need to find somebody better? 234 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: And then you know, the calendar ticks away quickly in 235 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: the offseason. You've got free agency and you've got a 236 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: high draft pick. All of these things. You know, the 237 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: progress toward figuring out the best decisions in shaping this 238 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: roster need to start happening soon. Michael talked about a 239 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: or use the phrase, real partnership between the general manager 240 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: and head coach. So that is his number one priority 241 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: right now, finding who we can find at general manager 242 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: and head coach, and then start discussing about the roster, 243 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: current players and players to add to get this thing 244 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: turned around. In twenty twenty three, episode fifty five of 245 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: the day Patch podcast featuring comedian Frank Caliendo is coming soon. 246 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: To catch up on past episode, just follow the day 247 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Patch Podcast. Be your preferred podcast provider. Could let us 248 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: updates via Twitter at pash pod. First edition offseason edition 249 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals Read Sea Report, presented by SeatGeek Your 250 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: Ticket the great Seats head coach? Who is out there, 251 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: who should be here, and who is needed to turn 252 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: a four and thirteen team around back into the playoffs? 253 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: This is the Arizona Cardinals. Where you doing at work? 254 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury? I mean somebody who I've really grown to 255 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: like and appreciate, Just a great man. I've been around 256 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: this organization my entire life, and I don't know any 257 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: coach that has worked harder than Cliff Kingsbury. He has 258 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: put in countless hours and we had a good long 259 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: conversation today and which I told him, I'm really sorry 260 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: because this is a tough decision. But at the same time, 261 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: it was a decision that needed to be made, and 262 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: I wished it could have worked out better for him, 263 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: because in terms of putting in the effort, there's a 264 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: guy that really deserved to have the outcome that we 265 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: were all expecting. The first one in the building, the 266 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: last one to leave. You hear that from players, Well, 267 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: for head coach Cliff Kingsbury, that's what it was here 268 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: inside the Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center. Put in 269 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: the work to get this thing turned around, and as 270 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: you heard owner Michael Bidwell say, it just did not happen. 271 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: You are judged by wins and losses. Drew and at 272 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: the end of the day four and thirteen overall, after 273 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: four seasons twenty eight, thirty seven and one with one 274 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: playoff appearance, you're not going to get extra opportunities no 275 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: matter who you are as a head coach. Yeah. Well, 276 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: especially when the arrow's pointing down right, when you look 277 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: at what's going on and what's transpired this year, and 278 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: Kyle talked about it in the earlier segment. When you 279 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: are the most penalized team, when you find ways to 280 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: lose football games, when you are have a bad home record, 281 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: all of these things. You want to be able to 282 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: look at this next season and say, Okay, we're training 283 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: in the right direction. And this was a complete downroad 284 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: spiral the entire way, and so you look at it 285 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: and you say, okay, now is the time to make 286 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: a change. And again, it's not anything against Cliff. It's 287 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: the fact, you know, Cliff's a great guy, a great coach, 288 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: But the set of circumstances in which was demanded of 289 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: this head coach in this organization at this point in time. 290 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: It didn't align with what Cliff was about. And it's 291 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: not about hard work. I mean, there's so many coaches 292 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: that live in their fears that you know that will 293 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: spend endless amounts of hours up there in the building. 294 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: If that equated to winness and losses, everybody just sleep 295 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: in their office. You know, there's so many guys that 296 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: would do that. That's not the case. It's about working smarter. 297 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: It's about working with the guy that you have, developing 298 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: the talent and being able to rely on all fifty 299 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: three on that rouster and the practice squad. Because the 300 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: injury bug did come around this team, you know, but 301 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: so many teams if you look at the different teams 302 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: that dealt with injuries or even positions, right you think 303 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: about offensive line and I know that was decimated this year. 304 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: So many teams in the NFL were. So that's not 305 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: an excuse. You can't sit there and a li on 306 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: this and try and use that as a crutch because 307 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear that. Eventually that falls on deaf ears. 308 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: So you've got to be able to find ways to 309 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: motivate these guys and get the most out of them, 310 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: develop them through the coaches that you have and get 311 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: people to buy in. But you know, it's unfortunate because 312 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: I think Cliff felt good about, you know, obviously signing 313 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: an extension, doing all these things, about working with Steve him, 314 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: about really staying focused in the guys in the locker room. 315 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: I think genuinely light Cliff. It was just when you 316 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: give too much of a leash to some of these 317 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: guys and then you try and pull it back, it's 318 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: too little, too late. We saw on several episodes of 319 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks in season Kyle, when you looked at how 320 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: Cliff handled his players, whether in meetings or individually, he 321 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: respected them man to man and treated them such and 322 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: at Drew's point, maybe needed a little to be a 323 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: little bit harder on those. But he came in with 324 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: the idea that I don't I should not be the 325 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: one to motivate you your adults, handle yourself like adults, 326 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: like men, and come ready to work. Now, maybe those 327 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: players in there took advantage of that and now need 328 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: someone to kind of be that hard person and come 329 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: in with some tough love. Yeah, you're right, and I'm 330 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: kind of divided on how I feel about that, and 331 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, that type of coaching style can work, 332 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: and it does work, and it has worked for a 333 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: lot of teams. You got to have the right makeup 334 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: in the locker room. Now. To me, treating someone like 335 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: a man is holding them accountable at times, getting in 336 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: their face and letting them know when they're not doing 337 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do, when they're not being disciplined. 338 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: You know, that's what being a professional it's about, is 339 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: accepting criticism and making change. But you know, again, you know, 340 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury at some point down the road will probably 341 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: be a head coach. Again. I don't know if it 342 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: be in the National Football League. I don't know if 343 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: it be in the college level. And I truly believe 344 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: he will be successful. You know, especially when you're coaching 345 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: at the highest level, you learn things and you wouldjust 346 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: and you know, the one thing I could tell you 347 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: players and coaches, look, one thing I was good at 348 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: throughout my career was losing. I mean I was on 349 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: a lot of losing teams, and it just steals so 350 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: much joy from the game. It is so hard to 351 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: go back to work. It is so hard to work 352 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: as hard as you can to play through pain and 353 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: to come up empty week after week, and you could 354 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: see it really wore on Cliff. I mean just appearance 355 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: wise at the end of the season, when he walked 356 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: into this building as a head coach, nobody had more 357 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: swagger than Cliff Kingsbury, and you just didn't see it 358 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: at the end. And that's because losing is tough. And when, 359 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: like mister Bidwell talked about, he worked so hard and 360 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: he almost felt like he deserved to win more than 361 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: he did, you know. So that's that's the tough part 362 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: of this game. Look, everybody, he can't win and when 363 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: you have as many losses as the Cardinals did this year, 364 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't fun for this coaching staff. I'm sure it 365 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: wasn't fun for a lot of the players on that 366 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: football field because in the end, you work extremely hard, 367 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: hoping and preparing to win games. Have not yet heard 368 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: from Cliff Kingsbury to get his reaction. Good Morning Footballs 369 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger, though, relayed a conversation he had with Cliff 370 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: earlier this morning. Cliff I spoke to him yesterday after 371 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: he got the news. Actually said mister Bidwell was incredibly 372 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: classy brought him in and they had an emotional Farewell. 373 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: Bidwell and Cliff had no beef by any means. If anything, 374 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: Cliff really studied the ship. I mean, once Mexico City 375 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: happened and you had the situation with the offensive line coach, 376 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: and you come back and the general manager takes a 377 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: leave of absence, you're talking about leadership roles being gone. 378 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: And Cliff said, put it on me. I understand. And 379 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: they hadn't won any games and they were going down 380 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: this road, and I think Bidwell decided that for the 381 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: better of this organization, let's just start with a clean slate. 382 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: If you're mister Bidwell and you're looking at this, you're like, 383 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: you must really want a clean star because you're eating 384 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: that number. And if you're the fans, you've got to 385 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: feel at least enthused that the owner isn't worried about, well, 386 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: what's my wallet saying he's going for this thing. As 387 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Michael mentioned in his press conference quote, no one is 388 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: hitting the easy button. This is a tough decision and 389 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: whatever financial loss there might be ramifications, then he's willing 390 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: to do that to get this team back to where 391 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: we all hope it is and that is a consistent 392 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: playoff winner. And yeah, sometimes you have to make those 393 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: tough decisions that maybe set you back initially, but hopefully 394 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: it's the whole take a couple of steps forward after 395 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: that one step backwards. Yeah. Well, and again it's easier 396 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: said than done because we're just fans that in area 397 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: looking at that, and it was a hard decision, and 398 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: this is a business. It is a financial decision. At 399 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: the same time, you can't lose your fan base. There 400 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: has to be all of these things as you look 401 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: forward to next season, and you know, the extension that 402 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: both Steve and Cliff were able to sign on the offseason, 403 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, is going to set them up for money 404 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: for the rest of the life, which is great. They 405 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: put a lot of time and effort into this. And 406 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: saying that, Michael also made a tough decision because ultimately, 407 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: I remember, I can't remember which game it was that 408 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: we were doing postgame and they're like fire fire Kyler, 409 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: fire to the GM, fire and fire Michael, and I 410 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: was like, the owner doesn't get fired in this equation, 411 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: that he never gets fired. He's just the one that 412 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: has to unfortunately take the hit to his pocketbook. Now 413 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: insane that there's plenty of good candidates out there. There's 414 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: plenty of good people out there. You just hate, you know, 415 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: to have to pay somebody that you're not actually going 416 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: to get in the building every single day. But when 417 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: there is a president that has to be said of, 418 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: you have to go out and do your job. And 419 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: unfortunately it was not up to the standard of what 420 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: the owner wanted and so he decided to make a change. 421 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: It's easy again to say, it's another thing to actually 422 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: go out and do so. Now with an opening and 423 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: head coach, what's it going to take to find someone? Obviously, 424 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: once again, finances play a factor, and that bid will 425 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: ask about that on Monday. Well, what I'm willing to 426 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: do financially is get the best coach and the best GM. 427 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know the biggest name correlates to the best coach, 428 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: So I guess what I would say is I definitely 429 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: want to make sure that we get the best coach 430 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: and the best general manager for this team. We'll live 431 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: with the financial consequences and you guys don't have to 432 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: worry about it. We'll take care of that. So we'll 433 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: manage our way through getting the best doesn't always mean 434 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: paying the most money in order to get what you want. 435 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, and it was asked during 436 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: Monday's press conference, Kyle the big name out there and 437 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: maybe takes the most to get as far as financially 438 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: is Sean Payton, the former Saints head coach who is 439 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: still under contract with New Orleans for two more seasons. 440 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: His name is out there, Jim Harbaugh's name is out there. 441 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: Those are the big names. But maybe it doesn't take 442 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: a big name. Maybe it takes advance Joseph Cardinals defensive 443 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: coordinator or another young looking for an opportunity offensive coordinator 444 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: or defensive coordinator across the league. Yeah, there is a 445 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: lot of big names out there. There's you know, lists 446 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: on the internet that are almost endless potential head coaching candidates. 447 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about when you move on from 448 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: a head coach in the National Football League, typically your 449 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: next hire is somebody that's has a different philosophy, maybe 450 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: wired a little differently. You know, I think with the 451 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: situation we're in, I think you probably need somebody that 452 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: has had NFL head coaching experience. I think, you know, 453 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: one of the things you can say about this year 454 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: is there was unprecedented adversity with this team, some of 455 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: it on the field, a lot of it off the field, 456 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: and when you're a head coach, you don't necessarily understand 457 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: that that's what you're signing up for. You know, Cliff 458 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: Kingsbury had to deal with a lot of things that 459 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: came across his desk that had nothing to do with 460 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: xs and o's and nothing to do with game planning. 461 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: So you know, to have somebody that's been involved with 462 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: some of those situations that has made those types of 463 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: decisions in the past, whether b Sean Payton or Jim 464 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Harbor or advanced Joseph, I think there is value to 465 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: bringing somebody that does have that experience to fall back on. 466 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: A head coach gets so much more on their desk 467 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: than an offensive coordinator special teams coordinator, not so much 468 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: on the field stuff, but to Kyle's point, true, all 469 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: the other stuff, the off the field stuff, the phone 470 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: calls in the middle of the nights that you would 471 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: not get if you were just an assistance exactly, and 472 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: that all plays into it. It's all a portion of 473 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: it because you're dealing with everything as the face of 474 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: the franchise. And being able to do that as opposed 475 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: to just truly coaching football. Join the season ticket Priority 476 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: list and select your seats before the general public. Next 477 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: season's opponents, Yeah, the NFC West, Seahawks, forty nine Ers 478 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: and Rams. Plus you got the Giants, Cowboys, Ravens, Bengals, 479 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: and Falcons, all visiting State Farm Stadium. For more information 480 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: at asy cardinals dot com slash priority list. 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That's next here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 485 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals with a chance to make it a one possession 486 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: game if they can get it in here, going for two. 487 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: Snapped to Kyler looking right now back to the middle. 488 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: Now runs to the right, being chased, backing up at 489 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: the twenty, looking still dancing around, pointing, still holding the 490 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: ball like a street ball in the back yard. He's 491 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: still got it. Runs right to the ten, Pott's left 492 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: to the five, and he's gonna score. Oh my goodness, 493 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray on a play that talk about a minute 494 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: somehow gets into the end zone for two points. This 495 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: is the entertainment capital of the world. And I don't 496 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: think I've ever seen a two point play as entertaining 497 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: as that. I have never seen that before in my life. Hey, 498 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: you know what, Kyler, sit down and do the own 499 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: it right now, because that is unbelievable and it is 500 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: what separates Kyler Murray from a lot of quarterbacks across 501 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: the National Football League, the ability to use his legs 502 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: to make something out of nothing. That a flashback to 503 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Week two Cardinals beating the Raiders in overtime twenty nine, 504 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: twenty three, but that two point conversion one of two 505 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: that was needed in order to get the game into overtime. 506 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: As we welcome you back here to the Cardinals, read 507 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: seat report presented by a seat geek, your ticket to 508 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: great seats and talking about Kyler Murray with respects to 509 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: the head coach and general manager. Now, before we get 510 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: into that, I think another interesting point that owner Michael 511 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: Bidwell made on Monday when asked about Kyler Murray's rehab, 512 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: It was, and I want to make sure I get 513 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: the quote correct, where he would like to see Murray 514 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: rehab and was asked if he would like to see 515 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: it done in Arizona. Quote, that's what we would like 516 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: to see. I know, that's something that you've brought up 517 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: Drew a lot as far as you need your leader 518 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: regardless of position, but your face of the franchise needs 519 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: to be in the building around his teammates and cannot 520 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: be away while he whether it works out or in 521 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: this case, rehabs. And when the other says we would 522 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: like to see it, that's almost like, yeah, you better 523 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: be here and rehab. Yeah. Well, you know, and I'm 524 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: not putting words of Michael's mouth because he said this, 525 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: and this is my interpretation or this is what I 526 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: would say if I was Michael of Things kind of 527 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: started spiraling even in the off season as it began 528 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: right and a lot of different things, whether it was 529 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: the suspension with DeAndre Hopkins or them not showing up 530 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: and you know, being able to actually get real work 531 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: in even when Kyler showed up because he didn't have 532 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: his contract and Rodney Hudson was threatening retirement. All of 533 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: these things. It makes it hard when there's so many 534 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: balls in the air before you even get the training camp, 535 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: when there's so many things that you don't really know 536 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: what's going to transpire, and so you want to get 537 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: these things worked out, and they're not worked out, and 538 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: so you want to have continuity. You want to have 539 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: the off season check boxes for you as far as Okay, 540 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: we installed the offense, we move forward, We did all 541 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: the things we wanted to do. And so that portion 542 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: of it is going to be having Kyler Murray in 543 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: this building each and every day. That portion of it's 544 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: going to be him being a leader, because that money 545 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: that he got paid wasn't just for his performance on 546 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: the field, his performance off the field of what it 547 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: means to be a leader, not only in that locker room, 548 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: but in this community, of getting out and being involved 549 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: in the community, having a visible presence of what he's doing. 550 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: That's what a franchise quarterback does. And part of that 551 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: is rehabbing here. Part of that's getting those guys together. 552 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: And it's not just bringing them down to where you 553 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 1: are in Dallas or anything like that. It's about showing 554 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: up and being here for one another and being able 555 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: to rely and depend on the person next to you. 556 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: And it starts with Kyler Murray. And I know a 557 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: lot of people are saying, well, you know, can he 558 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: run a pro style offense because he you know, as 559 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: a college guy that can do all these things. Kyler 560 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: has the skill set to be able to operate within 561 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: any offense. And yes, he has the ability to scramble 562 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: and do all those things and extend plays because it's 563 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: slow for him outside of the pocket. At the same time, 564 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: you've got to be careful because we saw him get 565 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: injured this year and doing that. So those design quarterback 566 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: runs that everybody's been enamored with that have trickled over 567 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: and from the college game, that's not the way of 568 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. You saw so many guys get hurt this year, 569 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: even Jalen Hurts. He's just coming back now from injury. 570 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: Is he going to be a one hundred percent Lamar Jackson? 571 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: So people are figuring out that type of run game 572 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: and within the quarterbacks, and you're exposing them to extreme 573 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: danger and you're investing a lot of money in them. 574 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: So you have to have him on the field. So 575 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: you need an articulate guy to come in and be 576 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: able to give an offense, and there's got to be 577 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: given tape. Kyler has to take ownership of the offense. 578 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: And it has to start with the off season, and 579 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: that's imperative. We don't know how long Kyler's going to 580 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: be out. Is he going to be available week one, 581 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: Is it going to be week six, week ten, We 582 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: just don't know. But what I hope to see is, 583 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: regardless of his availability in the off season, as far 584 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: as being on the field, Kyle, is that he is 585 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: around because with a new head coach, you're gonna have 586 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: to learn this offense because it's not going to be 587 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: a one year head coach. The coach is going to 588 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: be here for several seasons, hopefully an extended contract. As 589 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: far as upwards, you know you want your coach to 590 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: be here a long period of time. Well you need 591 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: to learn and foster that relationship, and you can't do 592 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: that if you're in Dallas now. You're exactly right. I 593 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: don't think we should hope he should be here. I 594 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: think that should be the expectation for your franchise quarterback 595 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: when you when he got that contract, even before that, 596 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: when you're the quarterback and you're the leader, you know 597 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: you don't have to be first in last out, but 598 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: you better be pretty close. You know, respect in the 599 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: locker room comes from your skin in the game, how 600 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: much time did you invest, how hard did you work. 601 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: And the difficult scenario that the Cardinals have themselves in 602 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: that you just alluded to, is Kyler won't get to 603 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: rep these things in training camp. This is going to 604 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: be a new offense potentially more than likely that he's 605 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: going to have to learn, and he's gonna have to 606 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: start from ground zero without getting reps. So he needs 607 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: to be around, He needs to be involved in and 608 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: not only the learning process, but also talk about, you know, 609 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: give his input. These are the things that I think 610 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: will work, These are the things I do well. This 611 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: is how I would like to go, how this play. 612 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: I'd like the progression to go like this instead of this. 613 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: And you know, again we've talked about it's whatever head coach, 614 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: whatever offensive coordinator, their job number one is going to 615 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: have to be developing Kyler. You can't do that if 616 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: he's not here. You can't do that if he's not 617 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: around his teammates and not a part of the install 618 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: and not a part of of designing an offense where 619 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: he is the centerpiece, where he is the one that 620 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: makes it go. And so you know, I understand he's 621 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: early in the rehab process and we're talking weeks down 622 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: the road before players get back in this building. But 623 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: I think that should be the expectation because you know, again, 624 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: just speaking of Kyler Murray, the biggest place that he 625 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: needs to continue to grow is his leadership and he 626 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: needs to take control of this locker room and be 627 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: that guy. The other news item with respects to Kyle 628 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: Murray that came out of Monday's press conference is the 629 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: fact that during this search, general manager and a head coach, 630 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell is going to listen to leaders in that 631 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: locker room, Kyler Murray among them. We're in communication and 632 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: absolutely want to get the input of our leaders, including Kyler, 633 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: and spoken with a number of leaders already. Now that 634 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: word input that certainly caught a lot of people's attention 635 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: whether they saw it on social media. But if you 636 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: hear it and if you define what input is, Kyler 637 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: Murray is not making this decision. But if you're the 638 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: owner of a team or a company, do you not 639 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: want to solicit ideas and opinions from those that you 640 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: have surrounded yourself with in this case, players that you 641 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: have extended and offered a lot of money and are 642 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: paying a lot of money too, So yeah, I'm willing 643 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: to listen. It doesn't mean I'm going to do what 644 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: you tell me to do, and I don't think Kyler 645 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: Murray is doing that. But there's no it's not unusual 646 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: for a player, like a quarterback, to have an opinion 647 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: on what is going to happen with the team that 648 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: he plays for. Yeah, it's not like he'sa want to 649 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: ask Aaron Brewer the long snapper what he thinks about. 650 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: No disrespect to you, brew Dog if you're listening, which 651 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 1: you aren't, but that's okay and saying that, right, you 652 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 1: hear it about once the list gets dwindled down, Right, 653 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: once there's a final candidates or whatever, you're going to 654 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: have to have a conversation with Kyler Murray when you 655 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: show up on this job. You've got to make sure 656 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: you're on the same page with Kyler Murray. You have 657 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: to make sure that there is some kind of charisma 658 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: between the two of you, because that's your lifeline, that's 659 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: your livelihood as a coach. Is your quarterback, your franchise 660 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: quarterback that's coming off an injury. Understanding, Okay, this is 661 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: how you see things. Just getting a natural sense of 662 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: how they can coexist and how they can interact with 663 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: one another. I mean, I know, just the first one 664 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: that comes to mind, as when Bruce arians was looking, 665 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, to take the Chicago job, he went and 666 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: had lunch with Jay Cutler. That's just natural. Once it 667 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: gets to that point. It's not like they're sitting there saying, Okay, 668 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: well I want you to go hire Lincoln Riley because 669 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: he was my college coach. No, that's not what Michael 670 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: is saying by any means. He's saying, we'll take the 671 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: endpoint of his along with the endpoint of the input 672 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: from Buddha Baker, from guys that are trusted veterans that 673 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: are going to be mainstays within this locker room, because 674 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: those relationships all matter. This is a communication type of business, 675 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: This is a relationship type of business, so those relationships matter. 676 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: And saying that once the list gets dwindled down, that's 677 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: when I think you'll have some of these prominent figures 678 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: in this organization maybe go out to lunch, have a 679 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: phone call, do any of these things. I mean, you 680 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: know that that's the case, because there has to be 681 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: continuity across the board from all of these people that 682 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: we're going to be sitting there and trying to get 683 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: on the same page. It just makes too much sense 684 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: to me, Cole, because the head coach spends so much 685 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: time with a team, whether a one side or the other, 686 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: or one player or another. But that relationship you need 687 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: to have to where you can go out on the 688 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: football field and actually do what we all want, and 689 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: that is win games. Yeah, the relationship, the respect, those 690 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: are huge factors. You know. I think there's very few 691 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: owners that have their finger on the pulse of their 692 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: teams like mister Bidwell does. And you know that was 693 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: a parent and hard knocks. You know, he's in the 694 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: game planning meetings throughout the week and he's not interjecting. 695 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: He just wants to know what's going on. He had 696 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, keeping players accountable when he got 697 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 1: in front of the team and you know, no more 698 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: cutting corners, and he knows who's cutting corners, So he 699 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: knows those things. But I think you know less than who. 700 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: It's about what and what qualities are we looking for 701 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: in a head coach? What would you like change? What 702 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: things could you see us doing better and differently than 703 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: we did this past season, because again, look it's it's 704 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: not one thing that's going to fix this team. It 705 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: needs to be a complete cultural shift. And so you 706 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: do you want some input from your quarterback, you obviously 707 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: you know you want input from players that have been 708 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: on other teams. How did your last head coach do this? 709 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: You talked to Calvin Beacham, you talked to James Connor, 710 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: you talked to DeAndre Hopkins, you talk to Hollywood Brown. 711 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: What things do you think we need to do to 712 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: help this organization move forward? And you take those qualities 713 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: and then you try to find the head coach that 714 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: fits those qualities. One more item on Kyle Le Murray. 715 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: It is he is going to be coming back. Let's 716 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: not lose sight of that. The question is when does 717 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: he come back. Here's more from owner Michael Bidwell. He's 718 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: going to recover from the miss injury and we're going 719 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: to have a great player come back next year. And 720 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: so I think it's really important for us to make 721 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: sure that we don't lose sight of that. And let's 722 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 1: not lose sight of thirteen months ago. We're the hottest 723 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: team in the league just thirteen months ago, and so 724 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: you've all seen it. They're teams that have been down 725 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: a few years ago that have flipped around and now 726 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: are in the playoffs. So I feel like we can 727 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: be a quick turnaround. We've got to get the head coach, 728 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: the right general manager in here. All you have to 729 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: do is look at the current playoff picture. Seven of 730 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: the fourteen teams are brand new, and then you look 731 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: at the Jacksonville Jaguars. They went worse to first, and 732 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: that is something that has happened at least twice in 733 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: nineteen of the last twenty years. So it is possible. 734 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't look realistic at the moment when you're staring 735 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: at a four and thirteen record and upwards of thirty 736 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: plus unrestricted free agents and a number of injuries going 737 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: to the offseason, but yeah, we've seen it time in 738 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: and time again. Teams can turn it around real quick. 739 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: In the National Football League, it is the Cardinals. Read 740 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: Seat Report presented by SeatGeek Your Ticket to Great Seats 741 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: Craig l and Drew stan Nankav andibosch more on this 742 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: search not only for a head coach, but the general 743 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: manager as well as we continue every Tuesday at eleven 744 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: am year round here on the Arizona Cardinals where you 745 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: don network, I think that the key is pasting the 746 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: net far and wide, making sure that we've got somebody 747 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: with a very good plan, with right leadership skills that 748 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: can come in not only a GM but also a 749 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: head coach. Don't I don't know that we're as broken 750 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: as maybe people think. I mean, our record is terrible, 751 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: but when you look at the talent on this team, 752 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of talent. We've just got to 753 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: make sure that they're all playing together and staying healthy. 754 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals ended twenty twenty two with eighteen players 755 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: on injured reserve. Eleven of those players starters, six of 756 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: those eleven on offense. So it also happens that's not 757 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: going to be a little bit lucky as well as 758 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: far as staying healthy throughout an entire seventeen game regular season. 759 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: Going into the season, welcome back. It is the Cardinals 760 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: Red Sea Report, presented by a SeatGeek, your ticket to 761 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: Great Seats. As we continue to discuss the news of 762 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: the week, the news of Monday, a new general manager, 763 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: a new head coach. That is priority number one right 764 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: now for this organization. As far as the general manager 765 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: is concerned. Is that someone already here. As we mentioned 766 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: earlier in the show and we heard from under Michael Biddell, 767 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: this team has already interviewed three candidates, two of those internal, 768 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: Kyle talking about Quentin Harris, the VP of player Personnel 769 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: and Adrian Wilson, the VP of Pro Personnel. They know 770 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: what's already in the building, They know what the roster 771 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: looks like, and maybe when you're not quite the guy 772 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: and that the decision maker, maybe you do something a 773 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: little different. Although once again an external guy would come 774 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: in with a fresh set of eyes too. Maybe that's 775 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: what is needed here. Yeah, I don't have an opinion 776 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: on that. Again, I really respect Quentin Harrison a dub 777 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: I think they do a tremendous job, and if they 778 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: don't get that opportunity here, I'm sure they will get 779 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: the that opportunity somewhere else very soon. You Know, one 780 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: of the things that Michael Bidwell said is you know 781 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: your first priority when well, your first priority every season 782 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: is winning your division. Right, And we talk about this 783 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: a little bit off the air earlier, but you just 784 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: look at the talent on our roster, and there is 785 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: talent to build around. There is cornerstone pieces on this roster. 786 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: It is not bare bones. And I agree with his 787 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: assessment that we're not as far away as people think 788 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: we are. You know, just again looking at being two 789 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: and six and one score games like we're close, We're there, 790 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: and we had a lot of our talent, you know, 791 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: sitting in street clothes on the sideline, So we do 792 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: have talent now, saying that, you know, whoever this GM is, 793 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: this is a crucial offseason for evaluating our own talent 794 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: and for adding talent, because I'm not sure that we 795 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: stack up real well talent wise, even with everybody healthy 796 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: with the San Francisco forty nine ers. And then you 797 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: look at the rookie contributions that the Seattlehawks had this year. 798 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: They did a tremendous job and hit a home run 799 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: in last year's draft bringing in contributors that helped them 800 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. So I think, you know, whoever 801 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: it is, they need to be excellent talent evaluators, evaluators 802 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: both at the pro level and at the college level, 803 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: and upgrade the talent in order to win this division. 804 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: From a general manager's standpoint, though, when you look at 805 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: this team, Drew. It's got to look attractive because the 806 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: number of unrestricted free agents, because now all of a 807 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: sudden you can have a say who stays, who does 808 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: not stay. And then the number three overall pick, which 809 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: you hope when you have that top five pick, needs 810 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 1: to be a generational player that is here for ten, 811 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 1: twelve years and making an impact, whether that's on offense 812 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: or defense. Yeah. Well, you know at number one, they're 813 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: not going to take a quarterback, right, and you know 814 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: at number two they're going to take a quarterback because 815 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: they need to at Houston. And so now you're sitting 816 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: there pretty at three saying, okay, we've got a good 817 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: field where like you said, you're going to get a 818 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: generational talent. You're going to get a difference maker, and 819 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: much different than the year's past when you're drafting in 820 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: the high teens or the twenties or wherever that is. 821 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: You have a top five pick, you have a chance 822 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: to go get somebody that can make a difference impact 823 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: day one, that can change the culture of your organization. Right, 824 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: and that's when these opportunities come along, you take them 825 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: very serious. You look at that or there's the possibility 826 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: of them trading back for somebody else that wants to 827 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: get a quarterback and getting even more pick. So there's 828 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: a lot of flexibility there. A lot is going to 829 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: go into being able to evaluate the status of what's 830 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: going on. And like Kyle said, whoever the GM is 831 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: going to come in and first assess the roster that's here, 832 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: and then they're going to look to the draft and 833 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: free agency to be able to do all those things 834 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: to round it out. But when you have the third 835 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: overall pick, you're looking at guys you know just from 836 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 1: college football in general, that can get after the quarterback, 837 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: and that's what this team needs. They need somebody that 838 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: can do that because those are where you find these 839 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: difference makers that you're not just going to be able 840 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: to go get in free agency, because when you have them, 841 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: you don't let them out of your building. Cardinals again 842 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: looking for a general manager, looking for a head coach. 843 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: When it comes to roster control, who has control on that? 844 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: Here's owner Michael Bidwell. And there's always that favorite question 845 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: of you know, who's in control of the roster. It's 846 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: it's when you look at it. Pretty much every team 847 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: around the league, except for just a few exceptions, there's 848 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: a real partnership between the general manager and the head coach, 849 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: and I think that's that's what we're looking for, rather 850 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: than trying to dictate something up front. He was also 851 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: asked as far as whether he wanted to see someone 852 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: in a head coach role with a more CEO mentality 853 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: and again casting a widenet looking at all different types, 854 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: whether that's a general manager or head coach. But once 855 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: these hires are made, what is the next step. Here's 856 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: more from Michael. I think the number one thing is 857 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: we need to really make sure that we're getting the 858 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: most out of those players, and that the players are 859 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: one hundred percent committed to making sure that we do 860 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: everything we can do. And I've been speaking to some 861 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: of our leaders and there we want to make sure 862 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: that we've got the culture of that locker room, the 863 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: culture of our organization really focused on maximum effort and 864 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: making sure we do everything we can do to win 865 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: the NFC West. We talk about the talent in that 866 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: locker room, and twice during that press conference, Drew Michael 867 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: used the word regressed. And it's something that we've discussed, 868 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: but never has been discussed publicly by someone, whether front 869 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: office locker room. But this was a talented roster. Yes, 870 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: they were injured, but did not live up to that 871 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: talent in twenty twenty two. Yeah. The other word that 872 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: stuck out was effort. Right. That was something that we 873 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: saw a lack of week one and it just kept 874 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: going down. And I don't think that's a head coach's responsibility, right. 875 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: That is the leaders that Michaels alluding to in that 876 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 1: locker room. Those guys needs to step up a man 877 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: up if this team's going to get better moving forward. 878 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: Did you guys put your hat in the ring, by 879 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: the way, for either position? Because I just want to 880 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 1: make clear that if you are the head coach of Gentlemator, 881 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: you're still doing this show on Tuesdays? Can I fire 882 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: you if I'm the head coach every other Tuesday and 883 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: every other Twesdaykay? Wow, that was a shot at it. 884 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm retaining you. Don't worry if I did. I'll have 885 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: some input and decisions around here. Special thanks to our 886 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Almahandro technical director Zach Larson for Kyle 887 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: Van and Boss Drew standing. I'm Craig Riel. You will 888 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: talk to you in one week's time. Here on the 889 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. You've been listening to The Cardinals 890 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: Red Sea Report fifteen ten five Tockdown, Zack Hurtz, Buda 891 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: Baker with the sack stripped the ball, Murray's gonna score touchdown, 892 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: Oh Baby. 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