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Speaker 1: What's up? It's way up with Angela yee, And I

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Speaker 1: have a really special guest, a friend of mine, Jess

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Speaker 1: Pam is here. Hey, Jess Pam is a comedian, and

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Speaker 1: y'all know I am the biggest comedy fan. I actually

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Speaker 1: had done this whole thing called Mastery a Comedy, which

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Speaker 1: now we're talking to Jess Pam just about her career,

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Speaker 1: your personality. You've done lip service with us before. Also, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: so let's talk about the just Pam story. Okay, all right?

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Speaker 1: So you're from Jersey, Yes, okay, yes, born and raising Jersey. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know my life is born. Yeah, I'm gonna know

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Speaker 1: right because you do put female comedian on there instead

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Speaker 1: with Applistic cup Boys, I'm normally the only female, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, they always treat me like she been like

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Speaker 1: when we're on the ruin, we're traveling and stuff. So

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Speaker 1: it's pretty awesome. So the Plastic cup Boys would be

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Speaker 1: good for people who don't know. Right, Yes, that is

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Speaker 1: um Kevin Hart's group. Um Kevin Harness applies to Coup Boys.

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Speaker 1: So when they're on tour with Kevin, I work at

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Speaker 1: and they have a special on Netflix, right was it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Because I watched that I'm laughing my mask off. So yeah,

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