WEBVTT - Back by Popular Demand: Julianna Margulies 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.280 Okay, so my stand up dates. I have some dates 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:08.000 coming up in California in Long Beach, I'm performing on Friday, 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:14.160 aft and then I'm in Bakersfield October, and then October one, 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:16.800 I'm in Passa Robels, and then I'm in Vegas at 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:23.720 the Mirage Saturday October and then Wheatland, California October. And 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:25.479 then you can go to Chelsea Hamler dot com for 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:30.160 more dates when I'll be performing, and uh yeah, that's 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:35.400 pretty much what's happening right now. Hi Catherine, Hello, Chelsea, 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.519 good afternoon, Good afternoon, Good afternoon. I have such a 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:43.680 funny story. So well, it's not that funny, but Juliana 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.760 Margulie's who any avid listeners should this podcast know that 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.479 when she was on, she was so great and I 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.360 was texting with her after telling her how great she 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.560 was in the response I had gotten, and then she 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.480 was like, if anyone ever falls out, will you please 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.320 let me know I would like to come on again. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.360 And then someone fell out this week and I was like, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.640 you know what, let me text Julietta. Then she was like, yes, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.520 I'm down, And so how cute is that? That's our 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.280 guest today, You guys, and that's how it transpired. Julianna 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:17.399 Margut Liz is our special guests back by popular popular demand. Yes, 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.320 by her demand. Also by her demand, We're open. And 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.120 she's also going to be in the third season of 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.920 the Morning Show, reprising her role, so you can look 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.640 forward to that. If you miss The Good Wife, e 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.360 Er and everything else that she's ever been in, you 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.480 can tune into the Morning Show on Apple TV. She 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.560 also has a great book out that I've read, which 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.360 I'm going to read again, Sunshine Girl. Yeah, Sunshine Girl 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.840 and Brandy Carlyle's book. Those are two great books that 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:48.080 I read autobiographies. Please welcome Julianna Margut lese Hi, Hi, Hi, 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.200 without any further ado, We're gonna hop right into it. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:56.600 Back by popular demand. Julianna Margut lies is back with 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:01.360 us today because we had such fierce responses. Right, yes 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:05.560 we did. I got so many emails about that EPI yes, 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.799 I got so many, Julianna. So many people are like, 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.640 oh my god, Julianna Margutis, like, you guys are so connected. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.280 I said that to Julianna, I go, I feel very 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.880 connected to you. Especially after the podcast. I just felt 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.160 like your openness. It was just so infectious and people 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.200 really responded to it, and I think you really were 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.720 able to help so many people. Oh that makes me happy. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.800 I love it. I love it, I really do. I'm sorry. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.240 I'm on zoom and a mess, but I've been out 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.239 in the depths of the woods to old day to 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.160 day with contractors trying to get lime disease. What were 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.720 you up to? I stay away from that. No. Um, 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.560 We're trying to build something in our house and I 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.640 have to meet with contractors. And here's my problem. I 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.400 know you're in the middle of a renovation. I'm always 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.640 in the middle of a renovation. Always in the middle 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.960 of a renovation. I'm always homeless. I kind of love 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.960 it because I love the creative process of it. But 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:03.960 like meeting contractors, I love them all. I don't want 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.200 to say no to one because I feel bad. And 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.359 that's my problem. And I literally looked at the architect 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.000 and I was like, I don't know what to do. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:11.799 He was like, wait till the bids come in, blah 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.880 bah blah. But so my my problem. These are champagne problems, 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.480 I know, but my problem is always saying no to people. Yeah, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.040 I have that problem too, whenever I'm like, I remember 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.200 hiring directors, meeting with directors. I was doing a documentary 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.840 series for Netflix, and I was meeting with all these 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.440 directors and I was just like, Okay, let's hire that woman. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.320 And then the next guy, I was like, oh, I 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.440 like him too, very good too. Yeah. And my cousin 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.400 always like, you have no discernment like between people, and 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.600 I was like, what, that doesn't seem like it goes 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.240 with my personality. But it does for some reason. You know, 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.440 after reading your last book. I've read all, but after 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.760 reading the last one, I feel this tremendous connection to 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.360 I feel like you aren't that person. Yeah, well maybe 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.640 I worried about you do worry about everybody. I see 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.920 how you take care of your family and how you 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.040 do that's sweet. How has your summer been going, Julianna, 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.680 My summer has been going very well. My son came 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:11.080 off the bus from camp an inch taller and his voices, no, oh, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.880 that's so bitter. You know, my whole his whole life, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.599 I've looked down at him when I tell him to 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.960 do something, and now I'm like, um, and that's just 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.760 the beginning. So he's fourteen and a half. So it's 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.279 been it's been nice having him back home, and it's 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.800 been good, gentle gentle summer. Yeah, yeah, pretty good. We 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.960 are going to take a quick break so you can 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:39.560 hear and add and then we'll be right back. How 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.760 was your vacation? How is your Oh? My god, I 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.039 had so many vacations. They've been so great and like 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.640 healing and friends and family and strangers and people. I've 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.440 new people. I love meeting new people. I always love 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.520 meeting new people, especially British people. I have an affinity 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.360 for British people. So in Greece it was my friends 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:00.200 sisters getaway, she and all of her British friends and 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.839 their couples and their kids. I'll go to this island, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.520 Left Cotta, and I had never been to Left Cotta. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.960 I had also never flown on easy Jet. I don't 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.560 know if you guys are familiar with that, but it 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.919 is something to avoid for the entire world because it 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.640 sounds like a cheap ticket. It's yes, it's like being 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.320 airlifted in a I don't even know why they have seats. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.880 You should just be standing because that's how uncomfortable it is. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.040 And my friend was like, it's a three and a 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.479 half hour flight back to London, and I had my 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.880 own plane ticket booked, but they were leaving a day 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.200 early and they had gotten their tickets confused. And she goes, okay, 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.160 I have some bad news. You're gonna have to fly 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.080 with us. That's the good news. The bad news is 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.800 we're going to uneasy jet and you're not gonna like that. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.080 And I was like, okay, I go, you know what, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.640 just give me an edible. I can handle anything, you know, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.000 and we got on it. I read an entire book, 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.240 Daisy Jones and the Six By the way, Julianna, if 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.839 you're looking for a good quick fiction read, that's really 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.560 really good. I love when I finish a book, you know, 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.440 in a couple of days, when I get sad I 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.039 missed them. Yeah. I have always had a rule in 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.360 my house not to have a TV in the bedroom 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.040 because I'll just watch it rather than read before I 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.960 go to sleep. Yeah. I mean, of course, it's also 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.839 better for a relationship. But nothing makes me more depressed 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.080 than someone falling asleep to the TV in their own 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:17.560 bed and then waking up at three in the morning 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.919 the TV than But when you have a book you 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.919 like read, your dreams are better. There's no none of 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.320 that the rays of the television going into your head. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.479 I always say to my kids, the best gift we 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.720 ever gave you was your love for reading. Yeah. A friend. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.240 No matter where you are in the world, a book 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.279 is a friend. A book is a happy, safe place. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.400 Yeah yeah. And you know what I've realized recently is 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.320 that I'm reading too much serious shit. Like I love 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.919 to be like analytical and think about things and have 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.240 things that provoke my thinking. But at the same time, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.080 I'm like, no, it's an escape also, and I deserve 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.880 to read fun things. That's why this book, Daisy Jones 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.800 and the Six was like a departure from what I 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.520 normally read, and it was such a welcome reprieve because 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:01.560 I was like, oh, this is like being in a 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:05.880 fun different world, you know. No, it's so important. Disappearing 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.279 into a normal is my favorite thing to do. Yeah yeah. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.920 The idea is to go into someone else's world and 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.840 not have to be in your own. I love a memoir, 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.360 and I love but it's hard because whatever you read 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.200 when you're reading really tough stuff, I'm reading a memmore 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.160 right now. Called Unraveling, which is actually fascinating. It's not 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.240 out yet. I'm reading it to give her a blurb. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.560 But it's by Peggy Ornstein and it's called Unraveling, and 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.200 it's about She's a huge author, New York Times bestselling 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:35.400 author who writes about um, sex for girls and sex 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.080 for boys. She she talks about gender and children. And 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.440 she was a journalist. But in the pandemic she's a knitter, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.160 and I think, I guess. She said, I don't know 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.120 how people know ship, but I knit. I've always knitted. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.080 I don't have a knit in a while, but I 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.840 used to be a big knitter. Anyway, she decided she 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.000 wanted if she was gonna knit, she has to learn 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:56.400 how to share a sheep and the whole store. And 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.560 I thought, are you fucking kidding me? I said yes 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.840 to this, and I'm gonna be on a farm like 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:06.280 sharing sheep. It is so fascinating the rabbit holes because 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.720 she's a journalist and because she's an author and a 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.640 great writer. It's all about her experience sharing the sheep 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.080 is unbelievably difficult. And also she goes into what we're 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.520 doing to our planet with all these bad you know, 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.800 all the cheap, easy clothing that's like the landfills. And 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.560 then she goes and she said, once I saw it, 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.600 I couldn't unsee it. I think that's what's hard about 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:35.200 reading really realistic books, is that once you go there, 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.200 you have to change because now I literally was like, 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:40.839 I'm just gonna run into this store and buy it, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.320 and I thought, is that going to be landfill? I'll 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.280 just buy vintage? Then, oh my god. And and and 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.960 the way I used to joke about sheep, Actually, if 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.080 you're ever looking for a different job, we're in need 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.040 of sheep shears, and sheep need to be sheared, and 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.160 they actually can help global warming. Like I didn't know 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.960 any of this, so I didn't know. Oh yeah, it's fascinating. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.679 Everyone says cheaper stupid. They're not. They're some of this. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.120 They're so smart. The reason their eyes are slanted is 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.000 so they can see behind them, and you always think like, oh, 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.040 they have such little funny eyes. You know, they're just stupid, 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.880 little cheep. I'm learning so much that I want to 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.600 know and that I don't want to know because now 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.640 I have to change the way I live. No, I 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.960 think reading is I don't read that book before I 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.800 go to sleep, I read a novel be well. I 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.160 think that's probably so true for so many things right 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.280 that we don't even know about in our environment that 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.120 are actually helping us live and breathe clean air and 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.680 helping put oxygen out into the atmosphere. Like we are 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.280 constantly surrounded by these things, but until you read a 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.360 book like that, you don't even know. You're like, oh, wait, 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.200 this is a contribution to the environment that we could 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.640 be using in a much more mindful way, exactly, Like 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.680 I never knew that a lot of clothes are made 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.960 with plastics in them, all the stretchy stuff. It's all 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.640 all of it, and and by the way, and and 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.120 and you know, and they're like, well, but we send 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.480 all the used closed Africa after saying we don't wear them, 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.560 we don't want them. Stop sending like it is anyway, 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.240 I digress, But literally, I do think that reading is 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.480 important to educate, but it's also really important to disappear 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.679 and and go into someone else's world and think outside 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.120 of yourself. Yeah, there is no comfort like a good book. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:19.520 What are some of you? If you can think of 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.439 one or some of your favorite books to recommend to listeners. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.560 Did you ever read that book Sarcy by Madeline Miller. No, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.000 that's a beautiful book and it's like fantasy. I mean 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:34.440 it's about Greek mythology, but it's so beautifully written. I 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.040 mean I had to read that. That was one of 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.520 those books where you read, you read a paragraph and 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.240 you put the you put the book down and just 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.880 think about how she wrote that. It's so impressive. But yeah, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:45.560 that was one of my favorite books. Did you ever 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:52.000 read The Red Tent? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that was a 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:56.040 great book. Interesting about that book, that book. I was 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.160 in Ireland doing a film and it was right after 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.480 nine eleven and someone had told me to read that 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.679 book and I started it and they were so men. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.320 You know, it's it's biblical, right, So there were so 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.280 many names, and I was like, I always give a 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.720 book fifty pages before I sam out. I remember turning 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.120 page fifty. I was getting frustrated with it because there 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.640 were so many characters and I couldn't keep track of everyone. 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.400 Page fifty turned it. I never put the book down. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:25.560 I couldn't wait till they were like, we have ten 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.679 minutes for lighting. I'd run back to my dressing room 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.800 and read the book. Those are the kind of things 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.959 there's there's another book. Oh, this is why I write 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.920 things down in my notes on my phone. That's no, 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.160 no offense. Really, that's why everybody writes things down in 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:43.160 their notes. You're not the only You're not the only one. Oh. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.920 In that realm of the red Tent, there's a book 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:51.119 called Pope Joan. Did you ever read it? Know? What's that? Oh? 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.200 My god? So Pope Joan. Let me just write that 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:59.600 down in my notes section one second? Yeah, right, session. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.719 Hope Joan is about a lot of people feel that 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.720 it's complete falsehood. You just go into the story, but 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.120 it's basically the first pope that was elected that was 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:14.600 actually a woman, and there's there's historical evidence showing, for example, 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:19.319 did you know that when someone is elected pope now 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.160 because of Pope Joan, when they found out she was 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.200 a woman and they killed her she was masquerading as 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:30.320 a man. In thirteen whatever it was, they have basically 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.760 a ball throne where the pope elected pope has to 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.600 sit on it and someone goes under his robes to 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.560 make sure he has pesticals. Oh wonderful. And that's because 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.839 of Pope Joan. It is such a fascinating read. And 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.040 some producers sent it to me when I was on 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.520 the Good Wife and said, we want to make this 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.280 into a movie and we think you'd be a great pope. Joan. 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.400 It was like, you know, eight hundred pages and I want, guys, 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.080 I'm on set fourteen hours a day. You're insane if 0:12:58.080 --> 0:12:59.680 you think I'm going to read this in two weeks 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.920 to get be my answer. So, and they said, take 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.320 all the time you want. I read it in a week. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.440 I could not put the book down. It was absolutely fascinating. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.040 I love those kind of because you also learned about 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.600 history and you learn about you know. Anyway, so you 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:17.480 didn't end up doing the project? Oh so, so I said, yes. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.439 I was like, I'm in this is I was just 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:25.000 unbelievable character. And they couldn't get a greenlit anywhere. Oh so, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:27.720 you know, I mean, I've been attached to so many 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.680 of those. But you know, you keep throwing it at 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.600 the wall and whatever sticks sticks. You know, you gotta 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.960 make lemonade exactly. But anyway, it's a great read. I 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.439 just read The Latecomer. I'm going down a gene Hans 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.040 Corlett's sort of rabbit hole because I've always loved her writing. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.800 And then she had read my memoir and actually asked 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.720 she has all these book events, and she said my name. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.160 I knew who she was because I had read her 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.400 books before, but she just came out with a book 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.320 called The Latecomer and that was so much fun because 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:00.000 while it's very New York story, but it's about these trips, 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.960 splets who came into existence from a petri dish because 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.719 their mother couldn't get pregnant. And it is a fascinating, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.440 fabulous fund read. And I love triplets. I like anything 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.240 where there's twins, triplets or sisters. Those are my three. 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.320 Have you ever seen that show The Split? Do you 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.440 have you? Ever? My god? I love it? Oh my god, 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:25.040 it's my favorite. I haven't I haven't a show for you. Okay, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.320 So here's what happened last night. I drove up up 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.040 I'm up state and for the first time by myself, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.000 no dog, no kid, no husband. Like I walked into 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.880 my house. There's no food. I'm like, okay, I'll figure 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.520 it out. There's some eggs, Like what can I do? 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:42.240 Like you, Chelsea, I'm one technically challenged, like the Pact 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:43.920 that I'm on this zoom with you and no one's 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.480 gonna help me. It is talking. And I've never actually 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:52.240 turned my television on up here because my kid or 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:53.960 my husband are always here and they know how to 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.280 do it. And it's got like, I'm like, what is 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.640 eight m one? So I don't want to be I 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:03.680 just wait till they're here. So I had just finished 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:08.400 watching Catastrophe. Have you seen cats Awesome? I love it 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.040 and I love her, Sharon Horgan. I'm obsessed with the 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.520 actress the way I was with Nicola Walker in The Split. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.560 She's genius. Oh that show is awesome, awesome, just like 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.640 In fact, when I watched that show, I emailed Robert 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:26.360 Michelle King, who created The Good Wife, and I was like, um, 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.600 do you think maybe this was born out of the 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.080 Good Wife? Because there's way too many similarities, right, She's 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.240 having the affair with the guy at the law firm, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.440 blah blah blah. And they said, oh, we heard about it. 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.560 And the Washington Post said, if you're missing The Good Wife, 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.600 watched The Split, So anyway, this show. So after I 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.320 watched Catastrophe, I heard that Sharon Horrigan, I'm sure I'm 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:50.760 saying her name wrong, but she writes, directs, produces, and acts, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.360 and I I just love women who do that. I 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.440 don't know if I could ever. I can produce an act, 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.600 but I don't know if I could do any of 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.880 the other things. She has a new show called Bad Sisters, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.600 and I immediately thought of you, Chelsea, you have to 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.680 watch Oh my god, I saw it, you know what. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.560 I saw it, and I was about to no, no, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.160 I was about to watch it, and then my assistant said, oh, 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.400 you should watch Severance, I think because they're both on Apple, right, 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.800 and yeah, Severance is on Apple with Adam Scott, who 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.840 I love. I love that show. Oh yeah, you watched 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.720 that show Severance? Oh yeah, I mean I have to 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.080 say at one point, like by episode three, I was 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.560 getting so angst. I was watching with my husband. I said, 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.360 you know, by the next episode, if it doesn't get 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.200 a little bit lighter, I don't know if I can 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.160 handle it anymore. Because we watched it together before we 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.880 go to bed. And then in Walks, I mean, I 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:41.000 loved all of it, but but the characters were so 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:46.080 sad and brutal and also frightening. Patricia Arquette is a genius, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.680 but she scared the ship out of me. And then 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.840 in walks Christopher walking with John Turo and I like, 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.040 I was like, oh my god, it's the sweetest thing 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.440 I've ever seen. I know, Christopher walking. Any time he 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.880 walked into a room, You're like, first all, Patricia Arquette 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:05.200 is the fucking best. She's Oh my god. Every time 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.919 when you see her, you're like you feel dehydrated from 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.600 missing her. You're like, hey, I need her and more ship. 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.640 She is one of those actresses I've always admired because 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:19.600 she is unapologetically that character. Yeah you know what I mean, 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.000 Like she just goes in there and you're like, wait, 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:26.159 wait seriously this is and you believe everything, Like she's crazy. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:31.119 Sever Yeah, well she's crazy, Okay, I definitely. Well, I 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.440 love Sharon Horrigan. I'm gonna watch Bad Sisters. We should 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.720 have Sharon on the podcast. Also, she's I think she 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:41.280 is truly talented on every level. She's funny. She's funny. 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.800 Catastrophe was so good. I started watching Severance. I'm not 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.320 to the end because I also found it slightly depressing. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.000 I'm just like, this is hark. I'm not good at 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.760 like television analysis. Like when there's a bigger kind of 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.000 metaphorical thing going on. It's not always easy for me 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.439 to identify, you know, like even in in a Bear 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.600 Did you watch that, Julie, I've watched three episodes of it. 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.720 That's a great show, and that I watched it, and 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.760 then I read a review of it and in the 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.080 New York Times. I'm sure because those reviews are like 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.040 I might as well be talking to somebody who speaks French, 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:18.160 and I'm like, wait what. I was like, toxic masculinity, Okay, 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:19.920 I could see that, but then they listed like all 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.480 of the things that the show was about, and I'm like, wow, 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.000 I'm a real dummy, Like I didn't pick up on that. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.159 I'm late to the game on a lot of things. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:32.879 But I just finished watching the entire four seasons of Ozark, 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.280 which was brilliant. Laura Linney is another she just deserved 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.320 another level. But in the beginning, I was like, I 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:48.639 don't understand money washing. Wait what? And I'm a fairly 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.880 educated person with you know, a medium sized brain. But literally, 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.480 as the show went, I went, thank you for not 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.119 you didn't talk down to your audience. I love a 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.240 show that allows me to learn what they're talking about 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:06.280 through time, because writing a pilot is really difficult, and 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.080 any network you want to set up everything within that 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.359 first show to keep the audience coming back. But it's like, no, 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.960 if you really believe in the work you're doing, then 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.720 let the audience learn with you. Yeah. So, like by 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.280 the end, I felt like, oh, I understand Cartel and 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:26.119 wondering it. But the one show I couldn't keep watching 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.080 because I just they talked too fast and I was 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.159 on it was Billions because I would look over to 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:33.880 my husband and be like, I don't understand. What does 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.159 that mean? What are they trading in? I don't get 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.720 I didn't. It was a lingo that went over my head. Well, 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.920 Billions is like red Bull, Like that's tell red Bull television, 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.160 you know what I mean. Billions is like two. It's 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.480 high octane, and that's like it's it's like out of 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.240 pace where there's Yeah, I know exactly what you mean 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.920 by that. Ozark is one of the best shows ever. 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.600 That and Jason Bateman is so boad and so is 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:03.280 good Julia Garner. She's a badass. Yeah, it was fantastic. 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.280 So it's been fun catching up. I know it was 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.080 on like years ago. But well, I think a lot 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:08.679 of people are gonna be surprised to hear that you 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:12.439 are not money washing and upstate New York, Julianna, because 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:17.240 that's what this podcast were supposed to be about. I'm 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.560 watching other things all the time, but not money. Okay. Well, 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:25.600 now that we've done our television round up, television book, book, 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:29.520 and television review and entertainment corner, Yeah, we're gonna have 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.560 this is gonna be a regular thing the next time 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.720 we have to call on Julianna. Okay, Katherine some Well, 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:36.240 I'm gonna make us take a little bit of a 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:43.080 break and then we'll be back with some colors and 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.719 we're back. What do we got going on today, Katherine? 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:52.160 So many things. Well, our first question is a sister question, 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.159