1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to your favorite podcast. 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: She gets in Chill. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: I hope that you're having a beautiful week. If it 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: is Monday and you know you're watching this on Monday, 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: it will be have an amazing week and neither day. Honestly, 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in, either if you're listening or watching. 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: I am very excited today because I have a very 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: special guest, someone that needs a lot to meet, someone 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: that I've been wanting to have on my podcast for 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: a very long time. And I have my little pew 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: carts here, but I don't think I'm even going to 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: use them. And she's a family member. And her name 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: is Karina Rivera Nabarrow. Everybody say hat to be cut. 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: So this is my cousin. 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: We're two years apart, right because it's two years. 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: Apart, and she is. 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: For those of you who are familiar with their family, 19 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: she is my mom's brother, Will Stravel. So there's Pete, 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: my uncle Gus, then my mom, then my dear little 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: Bee well and Rosie. So this is my uncle who. 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: That's daughter who my theo guys I love very much. 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: I have to actually bring them on the pod. You guys, 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: I think it would be a very yeah, it would 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: be a very great freaking conversation. But I thought it'd 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: be nice to bring my cousin because this is I'm 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna say it, and I don't want her anyone's feelings, 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: but this is my favorite cousin. She's been my favorite 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: cousin since Ford. 30 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: We have the favorites, you know, forever. We just we 31 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: grew up together, and this was I was explaining, you know, 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: I was only able to spend the night at two 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: people's houses if it was at the H's house and 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: the A's house. 35 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: So that was that's who you Yeah, yep, And same year, 36 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: we spent a lot of time together. Yeah, and Trey 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: is my mom. That's what they call my mom, Chay 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: the family, and and yeah, my mom would only let 39 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: me spend the night at you know, Patty at the 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 1: Obus's house. So we did a lot of summers together, 41 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: and we grew up together, and we've lived through a lot, 42 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: you guys. 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk about a lot. 44 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Of things, because we didn't even really talk much about 45 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: what we're going to talk and we have the few 46 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: cards here, but I just want to let the conversation 47 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: flow and and you're married, cousin, so it was okay 48 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: that said tomorrow. 49 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 50 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: One thing I will tell you, and I think i've 51 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: told you this, cousin, is that I'm so grateful because 52 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: you were one of the few people that stood by 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: me during that time that my mom and all were sorry. 54 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, she were very pissed. I was, and I mean 55 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: one of the last messages that I got to message 56 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: with you know, your mom was like, you know, you 57 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: got to talk to this lady. I always felt like 58 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 2: I was able to tell her like. 59 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Lady like no, yeah, that's what it was, figure right now, 60 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: because my mom would always say, and when I was younger, 61 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: they should work with my feelings. I'm not evenna lie, 62 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: but my mom would say, why can't you be like 63 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: your cousin Karna. She she should have been my daughter 64 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: because she's smart, because you've always gotten straight a's, because 65 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: you've been good in school. 66 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 2: She's a reader. She would get straight. 67 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: A's, and I'm I'm gonna lie. 68 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: I was. 69 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: I was a C student. I was like, I'm gonna 70 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: just get by. 71 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: These students are bosses. 72 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: Thank you, cousin. It used to hurt my feelings. I'm like, Mom, 73 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: how can you say that. She's like, yeah, I have 74 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: some dumb ass kids. 75 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: And they sure. Now, no, we're doing other thing. 76 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: But yes, my cousin, he's always been very intelligent. You're 77 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: very smart, straight A student, Like, that's one thing my 78 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: mom was. You guys had a very nice and unique 79 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: relationship because you were one of the few people that 80 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: can also tell her, hey, I don't agree with that thea. 81 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: Again, I would never say disrespectful because I know she 82 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: would cuss me out or. 83 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: Yah to me. But talking about her cussing us out, 84 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: do you want to tell everyone about that time that 85 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: she beat around? Oh? 86 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: Yes, that is like my favorite story to tell because 87 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: it was in November. I'll never forget. It was Jackie's 88 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: birthday and we were going to it was Tracky, Cheese 89 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: and Lakewood and Cheeks was like, let's go see Junior 90 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: and I was like he was my little boyfriend. Yeah, 91 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: I guess her boyfriend at the time. And we were 92 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: down the street and Cheeks was like, okay, let's see her. 93 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: Mom's key and I just worked at all the times. 94 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I felt I was like, 95 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: we're get cat. I was like, it doesn't matter. Okay, 96 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: let's say, took the keys on my back. We went 97 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: and my mom called my the cell phone that was 98 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: in there or whatever, and I was like, oh my god, 99 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna get in trouble. And yeah, right when we 100 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: were over there, they started calling. Well, we got back 101 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: to the scherky cheese, shaggy cheese, like Bianche was like, 102 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: let's go for a ride. She took my mom's car. 103 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: It was at eighty seven Mercedes, I'll never bring it, 104 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: and she parked and she like you know, she slept 105 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: us around. 106 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was before all this. It was a three 107 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: you guys that you should not do this in touch 108 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: your children. I'm probably if she was here, she would 109 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: have cared. Now, always the type of mom would be 110 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: like I tell him it's cool that I kicked dressing. 111 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah no game. So then she, 112 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: you know, can tra us. And then she made us 113 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: saying to Jackie saying you having birthday to her and 114 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: you better be up yes or so there we are 115 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: like cheeks, you know, holding back tears. I'm holding back 116 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: to yours because I'm like pissed and I'm like, damn. 117 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: I got in trouble and it's all my fault because 118 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: then I'm sorry. 119 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: And then two weeks after that, to eat your mom 120 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: calls the house and she has to talk to me. 121 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: She's like, Mayhan, She's like, are you still mad at me? 122 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: I was like no. She's like, okay, what are you 123 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: off for Christmas? 124 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: And that was oh my mom, you know that was 125 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: my cousain. Just she's like, she's probably like I want 126 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: to say no to this girl. 127 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: But all right, here we go. 128 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, kids don't do that. Okay, yeah, listen 129 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: to your parents. Please listen to your parents. But okay, 130 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: now get into something a little bit more serious. This 131 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: is a question that I don't think I've asked you, 132 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: but I want to ask you. How what have you 133 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: felt about me not using the last day of Rivera 134 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: because you are Rivera? But like one you could be 135 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: straight up like how do you feel about it? You know, listen, 136 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: it didn't bother me. 137 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: I don't feel like that was an issue. I understand, 138 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: Like why because at one point in our lives having 139 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: the last name Rivera was such an honor and you 140 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: decided that to use that. I was like, you know, 141 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: that's that's that's fine. Like she stands on her own, 142 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: like she could do it on her own. So, you know, 143 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: I think it was good because everybody knows you as Cheeky's, 144 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: not like you know, Cheeee Rivera Cheekys, so they know 145 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: like you. I personally wasn't offended. I know maybe some 146 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: people in our family might have been offended. 147 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: By that, but yeah, yeah, because I've gotten that question 148 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: a lot. And it's not that I didn't want to 149 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: use it. It's just I've always I've always been Jenny Marine, yeah, 150 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: no matter what my dad did. Yeah, I've always held 151 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: on to that. Last year, I never felt the need 152 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: to change it. I mean, Mikey feels different, which I respect. 153 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: Did Mikey changes he has it legally, but he wants 154 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: to and he wants to also, like you know, change 155 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: his daughter's last names. And I don't know, if I'm 156 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: talking too much, will probably be upset with me, but 157 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: that's what I know. I don't think he's done it yet. 158 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: He wants him to be Rivera, and I'm fine with that. 159 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: I respect everyone's dicisies. 160 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: You know how I am. 161 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: I just I always was like, okay, I want to 162 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: be known as Cheeky's and not that I'm not proud 163 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: of my mother and everything. Ye she accomplished, but not 164 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, I'm descending my dad's last name. 165 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: It's just more of like who I am. Yeah, I 166 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 167 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: And now that all this stuff has happened in our family, 168 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: to be honest, I feel better about it. Yeah, I'm like, 169 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: to be honest, I'm like, I don't not that I 170 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: don't want to be associated because that's my family regarded 171 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: as that's my blood regardless, and I never wish to 172 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: anything bad like at all, but I just don't. There's 173 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: a lot of things that I don't agree with and 174 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: all things that have happened that just I'm like. 175 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely I completely agree him. Yeah, you're not 176 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: wanting to fold on to that, you know, it's completely 177 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: relevant because, like you said, everything that has happened, especially 178 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: in the past eleven years, it has been a motherfucking 179 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: a lot. 180 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: It has had a lot to process still, So there's 181 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: day a lot to process, a lot to heal, a 182 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: lot of still grief, you know, Jennakan that said, at 183 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: the end of day, it's a cycle. 184 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: It's not linear. It's like some dings are cool and 185 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: then some days you're like, what this is really life? 186 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: This is not what I had envisioned or when we 187 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: were growing up, or how our dynamics were as far 188 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: as our family dynamics, never expected things to turn out 189 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: how they were. But then you you adjust, you learn 190 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: to deal with to kind of like re learn how 191 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: to relive, you know. 192 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to say that it was always 193 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: all bad. There was always a lot of things in 194 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: our family that happened that you and I would talk about, 195 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: what little yeah, behind closed doors, and it's just like, 196 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, this is a little weird. 197 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of. 198 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: Things, a lot of jealousy, a lot of stuff that 199 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: we would notice when we were cloyers. 200 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: Well we're teenagers, and I would ask you like, is 201 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: this like, am I seeing things from a weird point 202 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: of view? Or you know, or you see kind of 203 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: what I'm seeing That we did see a lot of things. 204 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: I was like, No, a lot of jealousy amongst the women. 205 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: It was a lot of jealousy amongst women. And I'm 206 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: sure a lot of the people that are listening or 207 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: watching can relate, you know. I think this happens a 208 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: lot in many families. It's just our family happens to 209 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: be a famous one or a very successful one or 210 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. 211 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: But this is stuff that we've noticed for a very 212 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: long time. 213 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: I think we just knew how to hide it, or 214 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: there wasn't social media or you know, all this stuff. 215 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: But there were moments that we had great Christmases together. 216 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 217 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: There were time when we lived off of Illu streeted 218 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: Long Beach at Grandma's house and for Christmas, oh, he 219 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: had it there, and you know, and Grandma and Grandpa 220 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: were still together and they would give us I can 221 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: see as you remember that they you know, and we 222 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: would break them and they would make us box, you 223 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: guys in the hard boxing each other. 224 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: I had a box Doorna. 225 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: She beat my ass every time. And then my mom 226 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: passed and I was one of the main pillars, I 227 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: think in her family. 228 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: And that's when I realized that this now, I really 229 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: realized that, like, damn, my aunt really held this family together. 230 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 2: She didn't. And you start processing now you're like, damn, 231 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: like this is not what I thought my family was. 232 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: Like you said, I love a family. I didn't never 233 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: wish about it will or nothing like that. It's just 234 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: not what I thought what happened exactly. I thought it 235 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: was gonna make people closer. I thought it was gonna 236 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: make you know. I was like, you know, I love 237 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: being on the sidelines and seeing you know, like you 238 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: cousin doing your singing, you're seeing other people doing their 239 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: thing them. I was like, you know, aws and be fabulous. Yeah, 240 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: it's been pretty crazy. 241 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: And I realized and I always knew that my mom 242 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: was a pillar because I saw how people would look 243 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: for her and how she. 244 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: Was needed financially. Yeah, it's just the truth. 245 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: Whether people want to admit it or not, the truth 246 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: is I saw and I lived it at first. So 247 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: many conversations, my mom told me so many things. 248 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: She hoped out a lot of people. 249 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: Going back to so this whole thing I did realize 250 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: that who my mom was in the family was that 251 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: my mom would tell people straight up like she would 252 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: not put up with anyone's book. 253 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she didn't. 254 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: And if something was wrong, she would see it. She 255 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: would either write you an email. She loved that emails, 256 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, but she would let it be old, you know, 257 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: and she'd be like, this is what's going on, and 258 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: this is why I'm moving to Corona, and I don't 259 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: agree with this. 260 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: That's why. 261 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: That's why we moved to Corona because of Grandpa and 262 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: his affair. 263 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: Okay, that's why. 264 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: Because I don't know, if you remember, growing up, we 265 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: were all at like in a certain radius. Everyone had 266 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: to be either. 267 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: In loam, beat your thing. It couldn't be too far. 268 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: So it was like this family thing. Yeah, and my 269 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: mom said, f this, I'm gonna be the first one 270 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: to move away. Yeah, because I was so disappointed and 271 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: so hurt that my grandpa was having an affair with 272 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: a woman that was her age. I was having a baby. 273 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: She was distraught. She just was like, that's my daddy 274 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: like coming so our family. Mom was so destroyed. She 275 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: just said, f this, I'm leaving, and from there she 276 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: started happening. Yeah, you know, it was already kind of Yeah. 277 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to judge my grandpa. I don't 278 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: agree with a lot of things. I still love my grandpa. 279 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: I left my grandpa through it, but that's the truth, 280 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, And I think it did Hyperrito, mister Burrito, 281 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: and I'm missing him. I haven't talked to him in 282 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: so long, you know. It's it's real mest up all 283 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: this stuff that's happening. But there's again, there's a lot 284 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: of stuff that I don't agree with. Yeah, but that's 285 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: when we moved away and my mom would just say 286 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: how it is, and I when she was no longer there, 287 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: there was like no authority. 288 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 289 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Then I think that's when it was that everything was 290 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: chaotic and they're missing of course they're missing their daughter, 291 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: they're missing their sister. Like it's such a huge laws 292 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: a world, our family that it just everything that was chaos. 293 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 294 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, for a long time, I was very like 295 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: considered of that and compassionate about everyone's feelings. But then 296 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: it gets to a point where you're like, I can't 297 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 1: excuse that. I'm sorry, I no matter what. Yeah, you 298 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: still got to act right because yeah, my mom's like 299 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: here physically, but she. 300 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: Still watched it. Oh yeah, And that's that's one thing 301 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: is like that my aunt was my aunt. I respected 302 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: my aunt. I knew that lady did not play and 303 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: I just knew that a lot of things that have 304 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 2: happened was in his past eleven years, my aunt was 305 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: still near. That would not ever, ever, ever, ever, not 306 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: a word would have came out of people's mouth, not 307 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: certain actions. I just know that for sure. 308 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: That's one thing I will say. Mam was an amazing 309 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: provis was a great mom. We had a relationship that 310 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: we were sisters and they were just so so close, 311 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: but we loved each other so much. Honestly, I think 312 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: I can go to my mom for anything. It's our mom, Simon, 313 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: so I want and she would get it from me. 314 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: Because right now I remember the Buddy which she surprised 315 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: me with that car yet you know it was blue. Yeah, 316 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: you know it's a vertical verto. It had just came out. Yeah, 317 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: it was two early two thousand, early two. I think 318 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: it was two thousand and three somebody. Yeah, right, I 319 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: think you are what for your sixteenth birthday problem? Now, 320 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: huh something like that? Oh my mama. But now that 321 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about all this and that you know that 322 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: it's true. 323 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: You you live through everything with me, cousin. 324 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: Even during that time, though we had talked a little 325 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: bit at the end of the day, like it wasn't 326 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: even that much. 327 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: We have not been there. You've been there with me. 328 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: And I heard this comment the other day and I'm 329 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: not gonna say where or who said it, but I'm 330 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: sure you guys will know. 331 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: But they set something down the. 332 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Lines of that I was such a nice girl. I 333 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: was so nice and that fame got to me, that 334 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: fame changed me. That I'm a different personnel and it's 335 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: the people that surround me that have changed me. Honestly, Cousin, 336 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: say it how it is, whatever it is that you 337 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: may think. I want you to tell me. 338 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: Know what do you think about that? Now? I think 339 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: sometimes you need to be more of a bit, you know, 340 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: because you know cheaks, You've always been, always looked at people, 341 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: seeing the good siding people. You don't like to cause problems, 342 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: you don't like to you know, certain frictions. So I 343 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: think that sometimes you need a babitch. But no, I 344 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: don't think fame has gotten to you in any way, 345 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: shape or form, thing and everybody just because I see 346 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: you know you're my cousin. I it's thirty six years 347 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: of you know, even my cousin, I see you the same, 348 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: you know. 349 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: I really don't feel that I'm saying fame because I don't. 350 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't I know, people know me. 351 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. 352 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: Like when they said that, I was like, what, like 353 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: I what happened is that I'm not that that naive, yeah, 354 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: global little girl that I used to be, that you 355 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: could just manipulate. 356 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 357 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: I was just when I when I heard that the 358 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: other day, I was like, Okay, well, everyone is entitled 359 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: to their own opinion. 360 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: It's fine. No memory is that. It's just I have changed. 361 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: I have changed in. 362 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: A way of if I'm saying the same person and 363 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm not really, yeah, I'm not evolving. Yeah, of course 364 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: I changed. Yes, yeah, I have changed. I'm not the 365 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: same person I was. I'm more mature. I could say 366 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: that I'm smarter, I'm wiser. Do you still talk to 367 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: any of our eccentifics? 368 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: I haven't, cousin, I'm like the uh, the rose, will 369 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: you know, reach out and say happy birthday here you know, 370 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: here in there, But to have conversations might have have 371 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: no for me. My separation of our family was back 372 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: in like twenty eighteen. There was a specific situation that 373 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: I was just like, and this is something that you 374 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: had no control over, or that you needed to fix 375 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: or my other cousins needed to fix. No, this was 376 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: sort of like the pillars of our family that needed 377 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: to fix situations and they never got fixed. So I 378 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: just knew that it was not ever going to give six. 379 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: You've always been very good with being a risk backful 380 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: kind of like you know, which I love. 381 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: And I did stay my peace so too to my 382 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: the roves and and they want to say, you know, 383 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: this is not okay or what I feel is I 384 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: don't agree with certain Yeah this is and how not 385 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: how our family's supposed to be. And I, you know, 386 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: never be just. I was not respectful, but I just 387 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: said my peace, and you know, yeah, yeah. 388 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: And you know what, I I don't really talk to 389 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: anyone else other than honestly. I would love to have 390 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: a better relationship with all my cousins. I I've always 391 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: said this from the very beginning. You know, I don't 392 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: want the kids, the cousins to get involved in all this, 393 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: you know all and that's something that you and I 394 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: would always say, Yeah, I want us to be different 395 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: from the elders. 396 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 3: You know. 397 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to find with my cousins. Yeah, 398 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 2: and even with your the dynamics with your siblings. I 399 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: remember you said, I don't want to be like how 400 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: our our you know, my mom is with you know 401 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: her siblings. 402 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's my it's my job as the eldest, 403 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: and that promise I make to my mom that way, 404 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my best to no job leave you. 405 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: I continue to do great job. And you just put 406 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: the moffuckers in the line that have to do. And 407 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: you know those ups and downs are always gonna happen. Yeah, 408 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: and us, we're always gonna fight with our siblings or 409 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: with their family members. But there's there's a lie. There's 410 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: a lie. And I feel some people don't don't see 411 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: those whys. They just yep, they don't. They don't respect boundaries. 412 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: So you know, you know, And one thing I will 413 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: say about my deal Gus yo, yo, daddy, I love him, 414 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: I will say, and I'll say this and I've said 415 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: it many times, and I have to take away anything 416 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: from anyone else but my deal. Gus has been the 417 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: only uncle since my mom passed eleven years. We're going 418 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: on twelve years. You guys that, he always says me, 419 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: and not I don't have money to give you. 420 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: You need twenty bucks, give you twenty dollars. 421 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: I ain't got more than that right now, he says, 422 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: I got I gotta take care of your dad, Patty, 423 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: and you know whatever. He's like, but he's there to 424 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: call me to bring me water free water of his 425 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: ALCOHOLI water, and calls my siblings, checks up on us 426 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: at least once a week, if not once. 427 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: Every two weeks. 428 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: But he has been consistent that I'm like I we 429 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: all love him so much because of that, because no 430 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: matter what, he respects what we're doing. 431 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, hey me, I heard that. 432 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: You know this happened, And I don't want to be nosy, 433 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: but are you good? 434 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: He's always striking on this. Yeah, he's a great father. Yeah, yeah, 435 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: my dad. I talked to my dad at least children Candy. 436 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: It's like so much my mom like I do, I like, 437 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: this is all carble. Yeah, I love you know, burn up. 438 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: I didn't have the great relationship with my mom, and 439 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: you know now it's so much like great or not. 440 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: And I understand I was a pain the ass and 441 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: I feel like because I was always like want why 442 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: are things like this? What? You know? My mom always 443 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: tells me because I end the line. You know, I 444 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: was always like combat even becombatd in that sense and 445 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: made in school and you know whatever. But I was 446 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 2: always like a print of my mom's dads. 447 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: Do you feel that that changed your relationship with your 448 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: mom after you had kids? 449 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I felt more. I understood because, like I said, 450 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I was war between my brother and 451 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: I was born like the hot headed one like Hi, 452 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 2: Like I wasn't out fighting with people and some but 453 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: I was always like one, why aren't things is what 454 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: you would ask questions? Yes, And my mom was like, 455 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: because that's just howly honor. She'd be liked, you didn't 456 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: understand when you have kids you would challenge her. Yes, 457 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: And then I had keys and I was like, I 458 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: know what's talking about, lady. I'm very grateful because then 459 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: he came on the podcast. 460 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: So, Hi, you do this conversation for driving all the 461 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: way from Long Beach you guys Radical Foss please for 462 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: Kluma only California, That's where I was born, Guys at 463 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: Saint Mary's Hospital. 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