WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, August 13

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And

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<v Speaker 1>now a guy who hasn't been in diapers in months,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Peace Shad, it has been a little while. We

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<v Speaker 1>will hear from Jay Gruden coming up as well. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon from the

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<v Speaker 1>home studio. Just in a different room of the home

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<v Speaker 1>studio this week if you're watching on at Jaguars and

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars dot com. J P. Shatrick with you. Glad to

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<v Speaker 1>be along with you as always, and Jeff Lagman is

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<v Speaker 1>set up in his new look home studio as well, lives.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Bud. It's all good, j C. It's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>I like your background there. You've got the musical thing

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<v Speaker 1>kind of going on there. Yeah, a little bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>rolling stones, trumps, mixing in some local flavor what not. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing. It's a good thing. It sits you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the let's get to what's coming up on the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>Camp continues. Of course we were out there today. I

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<v Speaker 1>was out there today for the second day in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Defensive line changes. A lot of moving parts there up

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<v Speaker 1>front on the defensive side for the Jacksonville Jaguars offensive

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<v Speaker 1>installation that continues. That's the diaper reference that Druden talked

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<v Speaker 1>about earlier. And we'll go around the National Football League

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<v Speaker 1>as we always do, so logs, works out, workouts continue.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really a phase two type of situation. They're

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<v Speaker 1>in helmets, um, there's no shoulder pads, there's no contact,

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<v Speaker 1>offenses staying on their side of the field, defenses on

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<v Speaker 1>their field, and they're not doing anything against each other yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of drill work to be done.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really about it right now. Yeah, so are you

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<v Speaker 1>are you really calling it camp? I mean really, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's not really a training camp so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's still in this build up stage to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the point where they do put on pads,

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<v Speaker 1>which is coming up, I believe on the fourteen, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it is, or is it the seventeen. It's coming soon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming on the left right now. I mean there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's literally, I mean, this is going back to the

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<v Speaker 1>basic fundamentals of football, which can be good and it

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<v Speaker 1>also can be maybe not so good, because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the older guys are like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I graduated football one oh, one years ago, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on an advanced level of football here, and so let's

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<v Speaker 1>start working on other things and not just working against

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<v Speaker 1>bags and working against air. Let's work against each other

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<v Speaker 1>to where we can work on techniques and work on

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<v Speaker 1>the scheme and the entire scheme against the defense. So

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just as as dun Morone said many times,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing normal about this year, and everything is new

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody's just gonna have to adapt to the jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of that adjustment is a new offense too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's they're in the midst of being on

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<v Speaker 1>the field for the first time. Though they can't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they can run eleven, but they can't run against the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're trying to work some things in. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to do everything in a new offense right now. Long.

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<v Speaker 1>So we heard from Jay Gruden, the offensive coordinator, earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this week and he was asked, in fact, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how far along is this offense and how far is

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<v Speaker 1>left to go. I'm gonna not speak for Yon out

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<v Speaker 1>of respect for him. He's earned the right. He he

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<v Speaker 1>played his contract out, he played four years, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>earned the right to do what's best for him. And

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<v Speaker 1>his family. And you know, obviously he's a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>we know what he brings to the table. His coaches

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<v Speaker 1>love on, his teammates love him. We all, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we love love his energy. The fan base loves him.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, ideally we would love to have him here.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll let him speak on his behalf of what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. And um, I know he's uh making some

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<v Speaker 1>calculated decisions. We'll hear from Jake Rudin coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>just a minute. That, of course, was Dave called Well

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<v Speaker 1>discussing Unique in Dockway and that's another situation live. It's

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<v Speaker 1>happening this week. Reportedly Unique and Dockway part of ways

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<v Speaker 1>with his agent again. So and Dave called Well spoke

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<v Speaker 1>with Unique and got way. What do you think this means?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a good sign or is this just another

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<v Speaker 1>day in the life. I don't think it really means anything,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you. The one thing here that

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, because I got a lot of respecbration

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<v Speaker 1>Dockway as the player, I thought that the way things

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<v Speaker 1>were handled by him and his camp it wasn't very good. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't criticize and an owner of an NFL team,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what and Gockway did with Tony Kahn. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't publicly question the organization and a public warm

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand that, unless you're I mean Jamal Adams.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I mean it seems that it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>isolated to just the Goockway situation, but in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>with the economics of the NFL and the way things

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<v Speaker 1>are right now with a global pandemic and a salary

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<v Speaker 1>cap that's sure to be lowered significantly in future years. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I if I'm a Gockway, I'm probably looking back at

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<v Speaker 1>that situation last year ago. Man, I probably should have

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<v Speaker 1>taken that opportunity at the extension because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna be able to get that much money

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<v Speaker 1>going forward. Was that part of the process as to

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<v Speaker 1>why he changed agents. I don't know that H. Gockway

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<v Speaker 1>is the only one that knows the answer to that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would certainly be having second thoughts and would

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<v Speaker 1>be second guests in the decision to turn that contract

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<v Speaker 1>down at this point. Now, let's get to the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>We promised Jay Gruden, and he was asked this week,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how far along is this offensive? Installation and

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<v Speaker 1>how far is left to go? We're still in diapers

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<v Speaker 1>right now. You know, we got a long way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, I'm excited about the guys. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have guys that are willing to learn and

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<v Speaker 1>willing to work. And I feel like the mentality of

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<v Speaker 1>this football team. Coach Maron does a great job of

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<v Speaker 1>setting a tone for this team. And and these guys

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<v Speaker 1>have come in and uh, they don't act like they

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<v Speaker 1>know it all or had done blah blah blah. They

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<v Speaker 1>they're willing to learn and do things the way we

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<v Speaker 1>want to do things now. Alright, J Gruden the new

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator, And you know how much can you really

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<v Speaker 1>do in this time frame right now until you get

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<v Speaker 1>into past. There's not a lot that can truly be done.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Well, first of all, the reference to still being

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<v Speaker 1>in diapers was classic. It It's awesome. Uh. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Gruden's got a little way about and I think both

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<v Speaker 1>Grutens do that where they can entertain when they have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a press conference, but when you're

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<v Speaker 1>at where you're at at as an offense and as

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<v Speaker 1>a football team, where you're not even practicing offense against defense, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still in diapers, especially since you didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>O T s, you didn't have any mini camps, you

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing to develop your offense with. So they're still

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<v Speaker 1>at the very early stages with this offense. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say it's comical, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting to see when he gets asked a

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<v Speaker 1>question about, hey, how does a guy look well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean hack. I don't want to say this is the

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<v Speaker 1>underwear Olympics, but I mean they haven't had an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to evaluate their personnel against other people, so they've got

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<v Speaker 1>a long way to go. Um. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say this about Gruten. He is fun to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>and in a lot of ways. I was thinking back

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<v Speaker 1>to that that movie I think it was Bull Durham

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<v Speaker 1>was a nu laluch. That's right. Gruden is he has

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<v Speaker 1>got he has got some cliche and I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>he uses them all. Write this down, right, which is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the good stuff, greatest scenes of a movie ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin calls to just just write it down, just write

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<v Speaker 1>it down, and so Gruden when he was doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was about JP like a twenty minute

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with the media Ballpark is somewhere there maybe eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>minutes and uh and he you know, and he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be helpful, but I mean, the simple answer to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the questions is like, guys, we've just started,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're we've acclimated, we're just conditioning. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>even really practiced yet, So what do you want me

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<v Speaker 1>to say? So, I mean, I mean, the the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>phrasing by Gruden with the answers on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those situations. It was just flat out entertaining for me anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we'll have some fun with Gruden throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the year, hearing from him on a weekly basis on

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<v Speaker 1>game weeks at least the coordinators have made available each

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<v Speaker 1>and every week he is coordinating an offense with a

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<v Speaker 1>second your quarterback and Gardner minshew. But it has been

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<v Speaker 1>a while since Gardner has been in this type of

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<v Speaker 1>situation as the starting quarterback. Going into a training camp

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<v Speaker 1>and going into the season for Gardener has been a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. I actually haven't had a camp like this

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<v Speaker 1>going into it since I guess my senior year of

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<v Speaker 1>high school. So it's it's it's it's awesome. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just being with the guys and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how we, you know, what we want to

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<v Speaker 1>be as a team, because we get to define that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. There's a group of the group of guys

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<v Speaker 1>on this team, group of leaders that have a very

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<v Speaker 1>real opportunity to change culture here, to develop a winning culture. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's already starting. Yeah, I think about that, Logs.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time he was the starting quarterback going into

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<v Speaker 1>a season was high school. That's crazy, but it makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense because that college career was he

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<v Speaker 1>took the scenic route. I would guess you would say

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<v Speaker 1>in his college career going to a bunch of different places. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different places. Now East Carolina Junior College

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<v Speaker 1>and until the West Coast. I mean, holy cow, he's

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<v Speaker 1>been all over the place. But make no mistake, Gardner Minshew,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think feels comfortable, nor should he feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he played ten games as a rookie. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's it. I mean so um, And he talked

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<v Speaker 1>about changing the culture and he said he feels like

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<v Speaker 1>he's starting to change it now and and that's the positive,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he feels that way. But the reality is

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a lot of steps that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to accomplish and meet before you say, Okay, we're changing

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<v Speaker 1>the culture, because what are you trying to change? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's just wins and losses, Uh, then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to put games together in the w

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<v Speaker 1>column to say that you've changed the culture. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things also that go into changing the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's got to come from the players. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>playing played the game for a long time, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not very often that culture change can come just from

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff. It's got to be a joint effort.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've got to have some strong leadership in the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room. And hopefully Gardner Minshew in a second year

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<v Speaker 1>can ben provide some of that because it's not easy

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<v Speaker 1>for young players to provide leadership in a locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it takes them a few years to pay some

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<v Speaker 1>dues and have success in the league for them to

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<v Speaker 1>have that leadership type of of of ability. You've gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have success and you've got to be a good player

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<v Speaker 1>before you can be a leader. I believe in any

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<v Speaker 1>NFL locker room and and looks This is the challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>the great challenge, not just for the offense, but for

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<v Speaker 1>this team as a whole. We've we've talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>all offseason, how young this football team is, how new

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<v Speaker 1>this football team is. Right, not just the youth and

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<v Speaker 1>the rookies that are in, but the free agent additions

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<v Speaker 1>from familiar faces in the last two three years are

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<v Speaker 1>now moved on. They were leadership in that locker room

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<v Speaker 1>in some instances. It's a lot of turnover, not just

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<v Speaker 1>with rookies coming in, but with free agents coming in

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<v Speaker 1>and and who's going to climb to the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the mountain, if you will, in terms of leadership. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a huge challenge overall, not just for the offense,

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<v Speaker 1>but this entire football team. Who's gonna step up well?

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<v Speaker 1>And the the change hasn't stopped I mean right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the defense. The the the defensive line I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect example of that. And they've had some injury

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<v Speaker 1>issues along the defensive front um. Now you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>and it's never good when you have you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have two guys that opted out before you even got

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<v Speaker 1>the training camp, and then now that you've gotten the

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<v Speaker 1>then you have another guy with the non football illness

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<v Speaker 1>for the next five or six days about where he's at,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So, I mean, it's it's a cons process

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a big challenge for this team because look,

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<v Speaker 1>you you've had a lot of change already and now

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<v Speaker 1>you have even more change with this defensive front. Uh. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unfortunately they haven't gotten to practices where they're in

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<v Speaker 1>pad yet. Boy, when you get the pad, you would

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. We'll hear from Joe Schobert, Jaguars middle linebacker.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see if this defense can get things going against

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely gonna be different. Um not having an O T

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<v Speaker 1>A so to kind of get in. That's usually when

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<v Speaker 1>the new guys get into the team and you start

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<v Speaker 1>to create that bond. I mean, we had virtual, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have bond so much over a computer screen.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be interesting this year for sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the team that adapts to this new system the

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<v Speaker 1>best is gonna especially out of the gates in the season,

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<v Speaker 1>UM be performing the best. So I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>a good squad on the defense. The guys have been

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<v Speaker 1>into it, been locked in, U been been enjoying themselves

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<v Speaker 1>to having fun out. They're playing football and hopefully that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to take us the right way. Joe Schobert,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars middle linebacker, acquired a free agency in this

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<v Speaker 1>offseason and welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour j P Shadrick,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Lagerman, and Tony Poselli's coming up at four thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>so about twelve minutes or so from Big Bow. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Schobert's um You know, I don't think he's talked about enough. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't seen them in pads or anything yet in

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<v Speaker 1>full go on defense logs, but you know he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>the middle linebacker. He's the one that's gonna be calling

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<v Speaker 1>the plays and and the quarterback and the defense here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think he's been as um covered I

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<v Speaker 1>think in media as he probably should. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>he will at some point. I think he's gonna turn

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<v Speaker 1>some heads. Hopefully we'll turn some heads once real football starts. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you hope and you that you get some resolution to

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening up in front of him, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we we were expecting for Joe Schulbert, have Al Woods

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<v Speaker 1>and Avery Jones and and other guys that but now

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<v Speaker 1>some are are unavailable because they're injured. So you hope

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<v Speaker 1>that you can get some type of production up in

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<v Speaker 1>front to allow Joe Schulbert and Miles Jack to be

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<v Speaker 1>as good as they can be. So interesting though, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you happen to catch this with

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Schulbert's press conference. I'm sure you did, but I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was really interested because you here's a new

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<v Speaker 1>guy coming from another team that typically would have all

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<v Speaker 1>of the off season workouts. He left weights with his teammates,

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<v Speaker 1>get the knowest teammates, and have practices with his teammates,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eat lunch and dinner and breakfast and all,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, all those things that you that you do

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<v Speaker 1>to bond with your teammates, and he had none of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so all of a sudden, now you start training

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<v Speaker 1>camp late, and you walk in the door and you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't ever really met anybody in person, and now everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>wearing masks. And so I was kind of chuckled j

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<v Speaker 1>P when Joe said, it's a challenge in that when

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<v Speaker 1>you go into a new building and you meet people,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're meeting this excuse my my tone here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't even get to see their whole face.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he said it's a challenge to meet people

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<v Speaker 1>and get to know them and to actually see who

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<v Speaker 1>what they really look like. Completely because everybody's wearing a mask.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought that that was I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>insightful because I mean, here's a guy that's a new

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's trying to find his way in the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room and a new locker room at that, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all all these circumstances are surrounded. I thought that, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a pretty deep thought by Joe Schobert. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's a guy that I'm sure it was happy

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<v Speaker 1>to get started here in Jacksonville, you know, after going

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<v Speaker 1>through living in the basement of his in laws, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is where he was at prior to coming to Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure that that was one of those moments

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, yes, we're out of the lag basement. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he mentioned that at his press conference the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a mutual agreement that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably a good thing to get out of the basement.

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<v Speaker 1>The parents were probably like, yeah, you guys need to

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<v Speaker 1>go on and find your own place to two Way

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<v Speaker 1>Street there. Obviously, on the defensive side of her lives,

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've harped on it a lot, but it's the

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason why, because it's the main reason this

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<v Speaker 1>defense struggled last year was they couldn't stop the run,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly in the second half of that season and that

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<v Speaker 1>stretch of two yard plus games against this defense. Avery

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<v Speaker 1>Jones met the media today, the big nose tackle who's

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<v Speaker 1>been here for eight years now. He was an undrafted player,

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<v Speaker 1>the most tenured current Jaguar, and he was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>that run defense. How do they improve it starting right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Attention to detail. I mean, we saw a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things where we was probably in position to make up play,

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<v Speaker 1>but little things like hand placement, keeping our shoulders square

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<v Speaker 1>kept us from doing that. And then really just have

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<v Speaker 1>to put it on our shoulders. I mean, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that we lost people off this d line. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the outside noise is expecting us to drop off, and

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<v Speaker 1>we just have to use that to motivate ourselves. I Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we watch film every day and everyone felts like they

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<v Speaker 1>have a chip on their shoulder because they know they're

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<v Speaker 1>a better player than that. Abrey Jones has been around

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<v Speaker 1>here for a long time and a big piece of

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<v Speaker 1>that Jaguars defensive front. It is, as we've mentioned, a

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<v Speaker 1>different looking defensive front. He mentioned that there he knows

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<v Speaker 1>how much turnover there has been. But that's where this

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<v Speaker 1>thing starts. Attention to detail. What does he mean by that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>most importantly is that you know you got to do

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<v Speaker 1>your own job. I mean there were instances last year

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<v Speaker 1>to where you had guys that weren't taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>their responsibility. Because run defense it is not rocket science.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's really it's not. Um it's a gap

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<v Speaker 1>defense and you're in your gap, and if you're I

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody that doesn't do their job and is out

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<v Speaker 1>of their gap, then you can't stop the run. And

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<v Speaker 1>when Aby's talking about attention to detail, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times guys vacate their gap for whatever reason. But you

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<v Speaker 1>always have to make sure that you do your job

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<v Speaker 1>first and then after that then you can go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and float to another gap to maybe help out somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else that's just getting beat physically, which happens in the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League. So, um, I think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a big challenge for this Jaguars defensive I mean, al

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<v Speaker 1>Woods was expected to be a big part of this

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<v Speaker 1>run defense, big strong, physical, run stuffing type player that

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of games under his belt and and

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna be honest with you, JP, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>his film from last year was tremendous. I mean I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking tremendous when you know he didn't play a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of staff, but when he did play, he was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought it was gonna be a big boost

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<v Speaker 1>to this Jaguars run defense having him. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to opt out, which totally understand and totally

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<v Speaker 1>respect his decision, but that's a big blow to this

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars football team. And and now you've you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle that they signed from the Arizona Cardinals who

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<v Speaker 1>has the non football illness, which uh Ronnie Gunner. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's tough. I mean, he's he was the other

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<v Speaker 1>expected upgrade along your defensive front. And that's the type

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<v Speaker 1>of and that's the guy that you're expecting to be

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<v Speaker 1>a run stuffing type of guy. And then Dante Vius Russell,

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<v Speaker 1>who they kept last year, uh nose tackle, undrafted guy

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<v Speaker 1>or seventh round pick, he was anyways, a late type

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<v Speaker 1>of prospect. I mean, he's another guy that was expected

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<v Speaker 1>to possibly help. Now what can Karnweed and Carl Davidson

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Morrow do well. I mean, here's the reality they were.

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<v Speaker 1>They were on the street for a reason, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they were considered to be A plus players, they would

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<v Speaker 1>have had a contract. There's only a few of those

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>guys that are out there that you can say they're

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<v Speaker 1>unsigned and they're still an A plus type of player,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of those being Clowning. And I think Clowney

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<v Speaker 1>is a wonderful talent. I think any football team can

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>be better against the runner, better defensively overall. But Jadavian

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Clowney on their football team. So, uh, take a flyer

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>on him, maybe have a conversation about him. How expensive

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:47.400
<v Speaker 1>will never huh? How expensive would that be? Lugs? That's

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 1>the question. That's it's it's gonna be pretty expensive, you know.

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>And and here's the other thing. Doesn't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>come to play for your football team, you know? Uh,

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Clowney is you know, That's that's the beauty of being

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a free age in you know, you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>make that decision based on money. You can make that

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>decision based on personal preference. And look, you may not

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<v Speaker 1>like the team's colors and say, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to play for that team because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like teal or he may say you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>love till I look good in till I want to

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<v Speaker 1>play for the Jaguars. You don't know. But but my

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>point is that it's there's very few people that you

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<v Speaker 1>can sign at this stage of the game that you

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<v Speaker 1>upgrade your roster. There's just they're just not many. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the Dallas Cowboys did a pretty good job. They

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>signed Griffin Everything. Griffin, the defensive vent who played for

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Vikings. Still a productive player, still was close

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to double digit sacks last year, has been a Pro

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Bowl type player and has passed, and they got him

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<v Speaker 1>for a reasonable deal. Now, Clowney is you know it's

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a little bit, a little bit more than

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<v Speaker 1>than that reasonable type of deal that Griffin got. You know,

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>most players, I would think their favorite color is money green.

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<v Speaker 1>And first of all, um, and then second, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the practice field yesterday, first day out, first

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<v Speaker 1>day in helmets. Uh, you know, the pr staff, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>doing a great job keeping everybody distance, getting us in

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 1>there to begin with. But I'm looking at the roster

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>right we're talking about the defensive line, and they're frouteen

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>defensive linemen listed on the roster, and look up fourteen

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>listed as defensive lineman. Right, So I look up at

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>defensive line drills and I see seven bodies. I'm like,

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 1>where the heck of the other guys? Well, one of them,

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I think Cassius Marsh was running around with the linebackers.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 1>That happens occasionally, you know, Um, let me to stop

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you right there. Cassius Marsh is not a defensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. He may put his hand in the ground

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>as a substitutional pass rusher, but he is not a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive n I mean, he could in a in a pinch,

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh my god, we only had seven

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>guys active on game day, and we need Cassius Marsh

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<v Speaker 1>to end up being maybe an extra defensive end if

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>need be an emergency situation. He could be that guy.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>But he's not a defensive end. He's a he's a backer.

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>He's a stand up guy. It's interesting, though, that kind

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of tells you that the lay of the land yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>when you had three guys who had just signed but

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't go to the practice field yet because they're

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>still doing COVID testing, You had other guys injured, I mean,

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>was that's the way it was at least the first

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>day out. But it's kind of end a little bit now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that brings up, you know, another

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<v Speaker 1>point that I think that the league, in my opinion,

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>needs to take a pretty serious look at. And Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's say the Jaguars have a rash of injuries

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the season, or you have a

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>room that becomes infected. Right so, uh, let's say five

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<v Speaker 1>guys are unavailable or an offensive line group is unavailable. Well,

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you've upgraded the practice squad to sixteen, And in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>why not bigger than that? I mean, I mean, here

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>we are. We've we've been talking about how it's gonna

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>be tough for a lot of younger players to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to make an NFL roster this year, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to see them for a lot

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>of time in training camp. Well, okay, if we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to develop guys to be able to be future players

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League, let's continue to develop them.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's also give ourselves a little extra insurance policy

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<v Speaker 1>because you know what, if all of a sudden you

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<v Speaker 1>can't fulfill a deficiency in the middle of the season

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>by just with guys off of your practice squad. What

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna do. Well, you can't go and bring

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<v Speaker 1>a guy off the street and have him playing in

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>two days, because he's gonna have to go through the

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<v Speaker 1>COVID testing to be able to be ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>for a game. So in my and look and practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad guys. And look, I'm not saying in at the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>H can just spend roodles of money, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>they can afford to pay maybe a few more extra

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>practice squad guys. And I guarantee if you went to

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff of every NFL team, not one of

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>them would be against would be against having twenty let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>on the practice squad. Why not? Yeah, I bet not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's up to sixteen now, and let's come back in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment um. We'll continue this conversation. Logs Tony BASSELLI.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to get on the field. Um

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<v Speaker 1>even at this point. I don't even think I was

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<v Speaker 1>get cleared to end up having another injury, so um

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<v Speaker 1>to me. For me, it's like night and day finally

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<v Speaker 1>being able to be healthy. Um, so I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Cam Robinson, Jaguars left Tackle, met with the

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<v Speaker 1>media earlier this week and welcome back Jaguars Happy ur

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<v Speaker 1>J P. Shadrick from the home studio, Jeff Lockman from

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<v Speaker 1>his home studio and in parts unknown Speaking about tackles,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony but Selly joins us. First of all, let me

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<v Speaker 1>say something, Japan. You can't read, So what are you

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>all those books behind you for? Well to read? No,

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't read, though I can read, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>I can read. Okay, Well, this isn't going anywhere. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I think it's funny that everybody in today's world

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>that is doing these like home podcasts or like virtual

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>shows like we are because of coronavirus. I love like

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>looking at the set us behind them because they have

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 1>like these books and all these fancy things. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, you know they had their wives. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee you, Jeff and Tera come in and set up

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<v Speaker 1>the back office so it looks like he's like really

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<v Speaker 1>like sophisticated, his leather chair with pictures and like he

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<v Speaker 1>has his he has his Virginia diploma up. They need

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<v Speaker 1>to pull out of the attic and dust off and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so like this is my office. I

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>don't I didn't have any setting this up. The only

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the only thing I did put in my office that's

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 1>different than what I would normally have the helmets right

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the day. Everything everything else is

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>what it is. Well, I believe that because Jeff's pretty

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>organized in pretty detail anyways, But like JP, I guarantee

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>you he went out and bought a bunch of books

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>off Amazon to put in his bookshelf, so he looks

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 1>like he's smart. I've had them. I haven't opened them

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<v Speaker 1>in years, but they've been around in boxes, they're around,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I can put them to use so let's

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 1>move forward here. Let's move forward here. We heard from

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Cam Robinson there at the top, Tony, Let's get right

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>to it. Man. It's uh Cam Robinson coming off the

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>knee last year. You heard him say it was it's

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>night and day this year to last year, it wasn't

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>even cleared yet at this time a season ago, and

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>he said that he really didn't feel normal until like

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the last five games of the season. Um, but that's

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of what I think we were talking about all

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>year with Cam Robinson. What can you expect now from Cam?

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>And then we'll get to Will Richardson in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you make of Cam's comments there? Yeah, let

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>me let me just start pretty preface, like there's like

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>a doubt there's very many people in this organization or

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>this team or the city that are rooting harder than

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>I am for Cam Robinson because I really like Cam.

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a big, physical guy, that man. He

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>brings its nast dat of meanness to that group that

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>they need um and I love that he feels better

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>for me though, it's gonna be like the proof is

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in the pudding when we're gonna watch tape

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 1>and we'll watch practice and everything else. Then we get

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>into the games. Does he revert to his bad habits?

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Does he revert to his poor footwork? Because this was

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>not a knee issue. This was pre knee. He had

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>some footwork issues. Now he's such a big, powerful athletic

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>man he can get away with it. And now it

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>was exasperated last year because of the no doubt about it,

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and I get know what he was experiencing. I've been

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 1>through it and it takes time, and jeffs as well.

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>It takes you time to get back to feeling like

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>two year old self. But I still go back to

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>For me, I'm watching his feet and I'm watching this

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 1>technique because in my opinion, Jeff, this was a pre

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>knee issue. Um that I hope he cleans it up

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of reasons. One, I love to have

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.919
<v Speaker 1>a left tackle, franchise left tackle, and I think Camber

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously gonna be that. And then for him individually, big

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>year because he's gonna be a free jent and if

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>he does figure it out, go look at LARRMYE. Tuncil's

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>contract of twenty two million bucks a year. He's gonna

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 1>get paid and I'm always for guys getting paid. Well,

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna approach that category just because Larry Mee

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Tuncil has been able to do it, you know, year

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>after year after year. But I mean Cam has an

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to be able to to take care of himself significantly.

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And and Tony right, and that the feet issue or

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>if the feat issues that he's had didn't just show

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 1>up because of the knee injury he had him before,

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>they were probably exacerbated a little bit last year because

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of the knee injury. And it's kind of sometimes hard.

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I've been there, Tony, You've been there. It's hard to

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>work on technique when you're just trying to find a

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 1>way to get through the practice, you know. So, and

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>he's got a good offensive line coach and coach Warhop.

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>If there's anybody that's gonna be able to coach the

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:16.720
<v Speaker 1>technique in the in the Cam, it's gonna be coach Warhop.

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>So and I'm with Tony. I hope that he is

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 1>able to find the groove. I'm hope he's able to

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>improve because I love him, and what I love about

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 1>him is he is a dominant run blocker at times,

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and there's not many left tackles that are playing at

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the NFL level right now that you sit there and

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you go, dang, that guy can run block and look

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>at him finish five, you know, five yards down the

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>field on a guy. But Cam is one of those guys. Now, Look,

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:47.359
<v Speaker 1>will had did an impressive job when he was in there,

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think this is a great situation that. Look,

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>competition is a beautiful thing, and it will make both

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>guys better by having them compete against each other for

0:39:57.760 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that playing time. So let's see it. Let's see the

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 1>cop Petitian. Let it begin. Yeah, let mean and I'll

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 1>say this, let's pick up on that thread, Jeff Um.

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I never understood last year why they didn't give Will

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>rich is In the chance to compete for the job

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>throughout the year when when Cam was obviously not obviously

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:18.439
<v Speaker 1>was struggling at times Um with technique and his knee

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and his strength and everything else. And I I was

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>thoroughly impressed for a guy who was asked about two

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>days before opening day to go kick out the left

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>tackle position you never played before. And I thought he

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>played in the two games, the two games that he played,

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was good. I thought he saw it. Now,

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 1>everyone go back to it. He got beat for a

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:40.399
<v Speaker 1>sack and in two games he gave up like three

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 1>pressures in a sack. Okay, great, that happens you're playing

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>from behind. I mean, all kinds of things happened. And

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 1>you know that as well as I do, Jeff. But

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>if you watch him on tape and you watch his

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 1>technique like he's not a guard, Let's be clear. I

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's a guard. He is a He can

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 1>play you in a tackle position. And I'm I for

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>one thought he'd get a shot out last year to

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>kick out the left tackle and compete with Cam. And

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad they're giving him the chance now, and I

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 1>do think it'll make Cam better. Tony. What did he

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>play in college? Though? Right tackle? You're around him a bit.

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:16.479
<v Speaker 1>He was a right tackle in college, pretty much dominant right. Yeah,

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that's all you ever sold? Did he? So I'm not mistaken.

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I know what NC state. He never took a snap

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.839
<v Speaker 1>at left tackle. I think it was all the way

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>back to high school. He never been a left hander.

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Stands um. I mean he was a he was a

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 1>right tackle. Only they drafted him. They thought he could

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>play some guard Um, I don't think he's a natural guard.

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>He's pretty long, and I think the suddenness sometimes gets

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 1>on top of him a little bit quick in the

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 1>past game. I think he can run block as a guard. UM.

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I think he's better at space, which would lean him

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 1>towards the tackle position. And um, I was shocked, for

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>one that he was as effective as he was uh

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:55.919
<v Speaker 1>in that opening game last year and even the first

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>two games at left tackle, for having never done it

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and uh and with rise he didn't get more reps

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>at it when Cam was obviously struggling because coming back

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>in the knee. Yeah, let me just add this too, though,

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I think from a from a coaching standpoint there, there's

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>probably got to be a lot of comfort knowing that

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you know when you go into a game. Okay, Cam

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Robinson has been a left tackle his entire life and

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 1>that's all he's ever played. Well, now that we've got

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Will Richardson who he can play right tackle. He didn't college.

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>He's proven to us that he's played left tackle, he

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 1>competed for time at the right guard spot and can

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>play guard. So I think from a comfort standpoint in

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>the reality is, if you're in coaching you want to

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>be comfortable going into a game day and you feel

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:42.240
<v Speaker 1>really comfortable having Will Richardson as being your six guy

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>or seventh guy if you got somebody else who's a

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>backup center, but you feel really good about him having

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that flexibility to play multiple positions. Whereas, Okay, if all

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, Will is your left tackle, he's got

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to be significantly better than Cam Robinson because you need

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>to have a reason to take Cam Robins said, Okay,

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>now we need to train him to be able to

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>be maybe that swing guy, and that's a lot to ask.

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>So I think if this is a competition, then Will

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 1>has to be significantly better, not just that much better,

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>but that much better than Cam to be able to

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 1>take him out of that swing role and insert him

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:24.720
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<v Speaker 1>I'm always joking, you know, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it kind of got out of hand

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and misscrew, you know what I mean. So I just

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get that out there. You know, I'm not

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in a joke, but when it comes to football and winning,

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm all in for that. Leonard Fournette is not a jerk,

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>he says Jaguar's Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logaman,

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Tony BASSELLI. I'm curious to see Leonard play this year.

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:37.479
<v Speaker 1>Obviously had a good year last year statistically. Um gotta

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 1>get in the end zone. A little bit more. But

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:44.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a contract year and Tony, you know what that means. Um,

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.439
<v Speaker 1>if there isn't motivation before, which there always has been,

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 1>there certainly is now for Leonard. You know, what was

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<v Speaker 1>the context of him not being the jerk? I didn't

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 1>What was the question did you do something? Made something?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that in the off season off season, there

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 1>were some comments that maybe he was unhappy around here,

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and there was they were talking about trading him away.

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>That was the storyline a little bit in the offseason,

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 1>and he was a little disruntled at times and he

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 1>wanted to explain himself a little bit there. Yeah. I

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:19.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't understand that part. But okay, um, yeah, I mean, uh,

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a big air for him. I don't see him.

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean outside of something crazy happening like where he

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.839
<v Speaker 1>just goes crazy numbers, I don't see him. I think

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.439
<v Speaker 1>this is his last year as a Jacksonville Jaguar. Um.

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 1>They didn't they didn't take the extra year, they didn't

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 1>extended the fifth year. Uh. And it'll be interesting to

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>see Jagrud's offense, you know, will he be the center

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 1>point where last year I mean they gave him the

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>ball and with the ricky quarterback. I mean he was

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 1>like everything, run game, pass game, you know, never came

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>off the field unless he was hurt, like the last

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>game when he couldn't play. So, um, it'll be interesting.

0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he's gonna be an important piece. This is

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:03.160
<v Speaker 1>a team at is pretty young. They're best players are

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:04.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean as far as the guys who

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>are explosive are outside. Um, d J. Chark had a

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>great year. Uh so no the rookie I mean, big, powerful,

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 1>fast guy that they're going to count on. Um, So

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you have some really young guys, you know, big questions

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.359
<v Speaker 1>at the tight end with Tyler Eiffert, Um can he

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 1>have you know, he's been injury riddled throughout the last

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>several years of his career. And I say all that

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:28.399
<v Speaker 1>because so it circles me back to Leonard four Nette.

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean he has to have a big year for

0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 1>this team to be successful and to score points. I

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 1>mean him obviously not most important. It's Carter Minshew, but

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 1>he's pretty close up there because they're gonna need to

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 1>find production, uh to score points in offense. Well, he's

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 1>been one of the most consistent producers for this offense

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of years is from from a

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:55.879
<v Speaker 1>production and touches standpoint and he needs to be exactly that,

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 1>especially this year for a couple of different reasons. Some

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of them RESI on his side of the ball, I

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 1>mean partner Minshew being a first time starting quarterback, you've

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 1>got a wide receiver group besides d J. Chart. I mean,

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and he did it for one year, one year only

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it's very unproven. You have a tight end group that

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I will say this. I don't care if Tyler Eiffer

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.359
<v Speaker 1>was a veteran guy or not. He's unproven too because

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:25.399
<v Speaker 1>it hadn't proven injurious yeah that he hasn't can't stay

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 1>on the field. He did it for one year last year.

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think the one thing of note watching his film,

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Eiffert's film, is that once he got the ball,

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>he didn't do a whole lot of exciting things with

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the ball in his hands. It was like he was

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>in self preservation mode a little bit, looking to make

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:45.840
<v Speaker 1>sure that he didn't take any tough hits. So okay,

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 1>so where are you going to get that electrics, you know,

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>consistent performance from while I think Leonard Fordette has to

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>be one of those guys. The offensive line has to

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>be one of the guys because it also reaches to

0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the ball, and that the Jaguars

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>defense is construction in time of possession and controlling the

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>clock and keeping the defense off the field is going

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to be I think very important for this Jaguars defense

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 1>until it confined a little bit of rhythm. I mean, here,

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>here's the crazy thing. A couple of years ago, we

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:17.720
<v Speaker 1>were talking about one of the best defenses in the league.

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Is this the best defense in the league? And now

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the importance of an offensive line and

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 1>a running game to help maybe lessen the burden on

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>this defense. But I mean, how things have changed for

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 1>this Jaguars football team and a couple of years to

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 1>go from that, you know, the elite of elite defenses

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League to now having a lot

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:42.359
<v Speaker 1>of question marks across the board on the defensive side

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 1>of the ball. Jeff, what's your biggest question? I mean,

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:47.799
<v Speaker 1>just and I know where you want to go with this, JP,

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna just steer it myself. What is your

0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:51.959
<v Speaker 1>biggest question? Because I think you bring up a great point.

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at both sides of the ball.

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Um a lot of questions in offense, and we always

0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of just said, yeah, but the defense is good. Well,

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>there might be more questions on defense than there are

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 1>on offensive. Oh, there absolutely, as I think, and as

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:07.839
<v Speaker 1>you look at that, what's your biggest what is your

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 1>biggest question or concern on defense? I'll start with what

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 1>what is the most important aspect of being a good

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:17.839
<v Speaker 1>defense the National Football League? And it's got to start

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 1>with stopping to run? And we saw Tony you saw

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>it last year. They had trouble stopping a run and

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:25.040
<v Speaker 1>stopping the run. You gotta be good in the middle.

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>And when I say the middle, nose tackle, three technique

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>inside linebackers because there's two and then safety. Um, are

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 1>they strong at at that middle area on the defense? Well,

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you had one of your guys out woods opt out

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 1>gunners on non football illness. He's out. Joe Schoberg. I

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>think has a lot to prove. Yet, even though he

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:51.879
<v Speaker 1>was an expensive free agent, mile Jack hasn't played will

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>before consistently. So how will he look because last year

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:58.439
<v Speaker 1>when he played, Mike didn't have a great year. Were

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the performance of the safe he's consistent at all? Last

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>year no, you know, so you have some mistacker on

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Harrison exactly didn't have you know, the best performance of

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>his career last year. So uh, that's a major concern

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of mine is that this Jaguars defense went from Ben

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, holy cow, you had Darius and the league

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and Calais and in pause going back a couple of

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>years with Miles Jack and Telvin and uh, consistency at

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 1>safety with two veteran guys, and now all of a

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 1>sudden a couple of years, it's all changed, which you know,

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:38.879
<v Speaker 1>the league is about changing. It always happened, but that's

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:40.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of change in the short amount of time.

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Interesting all the things you just said, Jeff, I agree,

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know one of the big stories this offseason.

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Even the campus youn Goquay and Gockway doesn't fix any

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:52.719
<v Speaker 1>of those problems you just talked about. No, No, he

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 1>does not, none of them. It's still a good pass rusher.

0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Trust you want him on your team, but you want

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 1>to be can't but you want him out there. I'm

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 1>just saying, what's so interesting one of the guys that

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 1>so much discussion has been around, and don get him

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 1>and can we get him back? And what are we

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:11.959
<v Speaker 1>gonna do with them, and he's like all the things

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you just said, has almost zero impact on um because

0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at his best he said above average running player,

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:24.919
<v Speaker 1>but he plays outside and he's you know outside in Yeah,

0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 1>when you say when you say at his best, he

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 1>has moments where he's an above average that's what I said. Yeah,

0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's a pure pass rusher. He's a disruptor

0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 1>from the edge. Um. But if you look at you,

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 1>he really because of what you said, his impact even

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:44.279
<v Speaker 1>goes down when you think about it, because you can run,

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what else you can't do. You can't get

0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 1>teams in the third and long and passing only situations,

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and so that is it's such a I mean, I

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:55.120
<v Speaker 1>couldn't agree more. I think you know one of the

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:57.480
<v Speaker 1>things and done talking about it at the beginning. It

0:54:57.520 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>can't be brought up to the Pavin Bryant and you

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:01.439
<v Speaker 1>and I have talked abo taming a lot. He's gonna

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 1>be the three technique. He's gonna have to become a

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>productive player on this team if they want to be

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.839
<v Speaker 1>able to stop the run um or have a chance

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:11.239
<v Speaker 1>to stop to run. And I mean that's just one

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Showberg agreed, he's gonna If you look at Cleveland, what

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:16.319
<v Speaker 1>was he known for. He was more known for his

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 1>pass coverage and a good pass defender. Um, he's got

0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to become a middle linebacker run stuff and guy Miles

0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Jack and all the way down to the safeties. UM.

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 1>And I bring that up because everyone talks about Josh

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Allen and if you get your unique back and uh

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:33.799
<v Speaker 1>chase on who you drafted in the first round out

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>of L s U. All these guys are explosive, splash

0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:39.840
<v Speaker 1>players that can really get after the quarterback and physical

0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and run around and make plays you can't stop to run. Well,

0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:46.799
<v Speaker 1>you really nify the impact those type of players can

0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>have on your football team. All right, guys, let's go

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 1>around the National Football League at some headlines before we

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:56.760
<v Speaker 1>get out of here. And we start with the league

0:55:56.800 --> 0:56:00.080
<v Speaker 1>and the nfl p A agreeing to extend daily of

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:03.440
<v Speaker 1>A nineteen testing through September five Tier one and two

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:07.760
<v Speaker 1>positive tests below one percent so far since a arrival,

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and no individual club rate is greater than two percent.

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So Tony, so far, so good. J Let me let

0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 1>me jump in right there real quick because I held

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:19.320
<v Speaker 1>my nose, Tony, because you probably went through this process.

0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:22.600
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about daily COVID testing For the people that

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>aren't familiar with this, the nasal swab technique, Jeff, I

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:31.440
<v Speaker 1>have not, but I've got some friends that have had

0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 1>to go through it, and they said it's it's absolutely horrendous. Yeah.

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I call it the brain tickler because they don't just

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 1>do your nose and all the way to the brain

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know, picking your brain. But I'm pretty sure

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 1>that if I'm not mistaken, the test that the players

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 1>are doing the NFL is not the nasal swap that

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 1>goes all the way back. It's more of a just

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:54.239
<v Speaker 1>internal It's maybe advanced technology. That's what someone told me.

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I know, if it's accurate, if God bless him, if

0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 1>they have to do the brain tickler every day, I

0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 1>do it seven times. It's like it's brutal um and

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>so uh yeah, it's uh, you know, it's goods. I

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:12.360
<v Speaker 1>was one. I've had it. My family's had it. I

0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:14.320
<v Speaker 1>said this the other day about for State football, my

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>kids playing there. I think they should play football. I

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:19.920
<v Speaker 1>think I think I was disappointed the Big ten in

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the Pact twelve what they did. Um, if you look

0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>at the numbers the risk factors of the age group

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 1>of these men who are playing football, whether it's in

0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:31.120
<v Speaker 1>college or professional football, for the most part, very very

0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 1>low risk. I'm not saying it's zero risk, but it's

0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 1>low risk. And I know this. If I was a

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.440
<v Speaker 1>player on the things, I'd be worried about. As far

0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:41.960
<v Speaker 1>as happening to be on the football field, COVID would

0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 1>not be at the top of it. Now. The key is,

0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 1>with all of this being uh, all that being said,

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not around the facility I worry about. It's not

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>on the field. I worry about it, says these guys

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 1>get out of camp and get into the daily life

0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of being just a person. Um you are. They have

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to discipline not to go out and do things they

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be and be around people they shouldn't be around.

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>As far as go home, you know, be smart, beaut

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 1>your family, like, try to isolate yourself as much as possible.

0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 1>We just saw a rookie I don't know the kid's

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 1>name up in Seattle got cut today because in camp

0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 1>he tried to sneak a uh female friend into the

0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:23.720
<v Speaker 1>facility um when he wasn't supposed to, broking breaking all

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 1>testing protocols. And everything else, and so that's what you

0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:29.040
<v Speaker 1>worry about. Like, these are young guys, and we forget

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes, Like you have some older veterans. Actually I

0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:33.800
<v Speaker 1>should say that the Jaguars don't, but other teams of

0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:37.240
<v Speaker 1>older veterans. Um. But these are young guys. And the

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 1>key is for this thing to work and for us

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to get through this without um significant positive tests is

0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 1>what they do outside of the facility. I think that's

0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>really important, um, for these guys to be thinking about.

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:52.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, good stuff. Some other notes to say. George

0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Kittle agrees to a five year, seventy five million dollar

0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:59.000
<v Speaker 1>extension with San Francisco. Everson Griffin gets a one year

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.800
<v Speaker 1>deal worth up to six million dollars with the Cowboys,

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and the ratings down for Hard Knocks in the first

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:08.600
<v Speaker 1>episode this week drew only two seventy thousand viewers, as

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:12.440
<v Speaker 1>opposed to over seven hundred thousand a year ago. Tony,

0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>good stuff. We'll talk to you again next week next

0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:18.760
<v Speaker 1>talk to your Monday. The show kicks off Monday, JP.

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's go, Yeah, it's it's coming in quick. Pete Prisco

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:26.800
<v Speaker 1>will join us on Monday as well. Uh Tony Boselli

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 1>for Jeff Logerman and our entire crew. I'm JP Shadrick.

0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Coming up next the Doug Morone Show, and that's along

0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:38.000
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0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:39.680
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