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Speaker 1: It is Thursday August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And

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Speaker 1: now a guy who hasn't been in diapers in months,

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Speaker 1: Jay Peace Shad, it has been a little while. We

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Speaker 1: will hear from Jay Gruden coming up as well. Welcome

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Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon from the

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Speaker 1: home studio. Just in a different room of the home

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Speaker 1: studio this week if you're watching on at Jaguars and

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com. J P. Shatrick with you. Glad to

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Speaker 1: be along with you as always, and Jeff Lagman is

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Speaker 1: set up in his new look home studio as well, lives.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Bud. It's all good, j C. It's all good.

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Speaker 1: I like your background there. You've got the musical thing

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Speaker 1: kind of going on there. Yeah, a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: rolling stones, trumps, mixing in some local flavor what not. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing. It's a good thing. It sits you. Well,

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Speaker 1: the let's get to what's coming up on the show today.

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Speaker 1: Camp continues. Of course we were out there today. I

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Speaker 1: was out there today for the second day in a row.

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Speaker 1: Defensive line changes. A lot of moving parts there up

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Speaker 1: front on the defensive side for the Jacksonville Jaguars offensive

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Speaker 1: installation that continues. That's the diaper reference that Druden talked

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Speaker 1: about earlier. And we'll go around the National Football League

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Speaker 1: as we always do, so logs, works out, workouts continue.

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Speaker 1: This is really a phase two type of situation. They're

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of drill work to be done.

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Speaker 1: That's really about it right now. Yeah, so are you

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Speaker 1: are you really calling it camp? I mean really, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's not really a training camp so to speak.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's still in this build up stage to

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Speaker 1: which is coming up, I believe on the fourteen, I

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Speaker 1: It's coming on the left right now. I mean there,

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Speaker 1: it's literally, I mean, this is going back to the

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Speaker 1: a lot of the older guys are like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I graduated football one oh, one years ago, and I'm

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Speaker 1: on an advanced level of football here, and so let's

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Speaker 1: start working on other things and not just working against

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Speaker 1: bags and working against air. Let's work against each other

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Speaker 1: to where we can work on techniques and work on

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Speaker 1: but it's just as as dun Morone said many times,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing normal about this year, and everything is new

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Speaker 1: and everybody's just gonna have to adapt to the jobs.

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Speaker 1: And part of that adjustment is a new offense too.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's they're in the midst of being on

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Speaker 1: the field for the first time. Though they can't you know,

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Speaker 1: So they're trying to work some things in. But it's

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Speaker 1: hard to do everything in a new offense right now. Long.

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Speaker 1: So we heard from Jay Gruden, the offensive coordinator, earlier

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Speaker 1: played his contract out, he played four years, and he's

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Speaker 1: So you know, ideally we would love to have him here.

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Speaker 1: just a minute. That, of course, was Dave called Well

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Speaker 1: which is what and Gockway did with Tony Kahn. Uh,

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Speaker 1: We promised Jay Gruden, and he was asked this week,

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Speaker 1: But uh, I'm excited about the guys. First of all,

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Speaker 1: want to do things now. Alright, J Gruden the new

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Speaker 1: got he has got some cliche and I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: And I think it's already starting. Yeah, I think about that, Logs.

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Speaker 1: But it's got to come from the players. You know,

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Speaker 1: has a lot of games under his belt and and

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest with you, JP, I thought

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Speaker 1: talking tremendous when you know he didn't play a ton

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Speaker 1: And I thought it was gonna be a big boost

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Speaker 1: to this Jaguars run defense having him. And then when

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Speaker 1: he decided to opt out, which totally understand and totally

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Speaker 1: respect his decision, but that's a big blow to this

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Speaker 1: Jaguars football team. And and now you've you've got the

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle that they signed from the Arizona Cardinals who

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Speaker 1: that's that's tough. I mean, he's he was the other

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Speaker 1: expected upgrade along your defensive front. And that's the type

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Speaker 1: of and that's the guy that you're expecting to be

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Speaker 1: a run stuffing type of guy. And then Dante Vius Russell,

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Speaker 1: who they kept last year, uh nose tackle, undrafted guy

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Speaker 1: to possibly help. Now what can Karnweed and Carl Davidson

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Speaker 1: Josh Morrow do well. I mean, here's the reality they were.

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Speaker 1: They were on the street for a reason, and if

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Speaker 1: they were considered to be A plus players, they would

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Speaker 1: have had a contract. There's only a few of those

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Speaker 1: guys that are out there that you can say they're

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Speaker 1: unsigned and they're still an A plus type of player,

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Speaker 1: and one of those being Clowning. And I think Clowney

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Speaker 1: is a wonderful talent. I think any football team can

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Speaker 1: be better against the runner, better defensively overall. But Jadavian

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Speaker 1: Clowney on their football team. So, uh, take a flyer

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Speaker 1: on him, maybe have a conversation about him. How expensive

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Speaker 1: the question. That's it's it's gonna be pretty expensive, you know.

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Speaker 1: And and here's the other thing. Doesn't even want to

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Speaker 1: come to play for your football team, you know? Uh,

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Speaker 1: Clowney is you know, That's that's the beauty of being

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Speaker 1: a free age in you know, you can you can

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Speaker 1: make that decision based on money. You can make that

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Speaker 1: decision based on personal preference. And look, you may not

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Speaker 1: like the team's colors and say, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to play for that team because I don't

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Speaker 1: like teal or he may say you know what, I

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Speaker 1: love till I look good in till I want to

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Speaker 1: play for the Jaguars. You don't know. But but my

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Speaker 1: point is that it's there's very few people that you

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Speaker 1: can sign at this stage of the game that you

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Speaker 1: upgrade your roster. There's just they're just not many. I

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Speaker 1: thought the Dallas Cowboys did a pretty good job. They

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Speaker 1: signed Griffin Everything. Griffin, the defensive vent who played for

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. Still a productive player, still was close

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Speaker 1: to double digit sacks last year, has been a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl type player and has passed, and they got him

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Speaker 1: for a reasonable deal. Now, Clowney is you know it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit, a little bit more than

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Speaker 1: than that reasonable type of deal that Griffin got. You know,

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Speaker 1: most players, I would think their favorite color is money green.

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Speaker 1: And first of all, um, and then second, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm on the practice field yesterday, first day out, first

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Speaker 1: day in helmets. Uh, you know, the pr staff, everybody's

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Speaker 1: doing a great job keeping everybody distance, getting us in

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Speaker 1: there to begin with. But I'm looking at the roster

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Speaker 1: right we're talking about the defensive line, and they're frouteen

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen listed on the roster, and look up fourteen

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Speaker 1: listed as defensive lineman. Right, So I look up at

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Speaker 1: defensive line drills and I see seven bodies. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: where the heck of the other guys? Well, one of them,

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Speaker 1: I think Cassius Marsh was running around with the linebackers.

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Speaker 1: That happens occasionally, you know, Um, let me to stop

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Speaker 1: you right there. Cassius Marsh is not a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: You know. He may put his hand in the ground

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Speaker 1: as a substitutional pass rusher, but he is not a

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Speaker 1: defensive n I mean, he could in a in a pinch,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, we only had seven

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Speaker 1: guys active on game day, and we need Cassius Marsh

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Speaker 1: to end up being maybe an extra defensive end if

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Speaker 1: need be an emergency situation. He could be that guy.

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Speaker 1: But he's not a defensive end. He's a he's a backer.

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Speaker 1: He's a stand up guy. It's interesting, though, that kind

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Speaker 1: of tells you that the lay of the land yesterday

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Speaker 1: when you had three guys who had just signed but

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Speaker 1: they couldn't go to the practice field yet because they're

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Speaker 1: still doing COVID testing, You had other guys injured, I mean,

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Speaker 1: was that's the way it was at least the first

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Speaker 1: day out. But it's kind of end a little bit now,

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Speaker 1: and I think that that brings up, you know, another

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Speaker 1: point that I think that the league, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: needs to take a pretty serious look at. And Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's say the Jaguars have a rash of injuries

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, or you have a

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Speaker 1: room that becomes infected. Right so, uh, let's say five

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Speaker 1: guys are unavailable or an offensive line group is unavailable. Well,

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Speaker 1: you've upgraded the practice squad to sixteen, And in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: why not bigger than that? I mean, I mean, here

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Speaker 1: we are. We've we've been talking about how it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be tough for a lot of younger players to be

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Speaker 1: able to make an NFL roster this year, and you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be able to see them for a lot

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Speaker 1: of time in training camp. Well, okay, if we're trying

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Speaker 1: to develop guys to be able to be future players

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, let's continue to develop them.

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Speaker 1: And let's also give ourselves a little extra insurance policy

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Speaker 1: because you know what, if all of a sudden you

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Speaker 1: can't fulfill a deficiency in the middle of the season

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Speaker 1: by just with guys off of your practice squad. What

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do. Well, you can't go and bring

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Speaker 1: a guy off the street and have him playing in

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Speaker 1: two days, because he's gonna have to go through the

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Speaker 1: COVID testing to be able to be ready to go

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Speaker 1: for a game. So in my and look and practice

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Speaker 1: squad guys. And look, I'm not saying in at the NFL,

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Speaker 1: H can just spend roodles of money, but I think

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Speaker 1: they can afford to pay maybe a few more extra

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Speaker 1: practice squad guys. And I guarantee if you went to

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Speaker 1: It's up to sixteen now, and let's come back in

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Speaker 1: a moment um. We'll continue this conversation. Logs Tony BASSELLI.

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Speaker 1: don't I didn't have any setting this up. The only

637
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638
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639
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the day. Everything everything else is

640
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Speaker 1: what it is. Well, I believe that because Jeff's pretty

641
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: organized in pretty detail anyways, But like JP, I guarantee

642
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Speaker 1: you he went out and bought a bunch of books

643
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Speaker 1: off Amazon to put in his bookshelf, so he looks

644
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Speaker 1: like he's smart. I've had them. I haven't opened them

645
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Speaker 1: in years, but they've been around in boxes, they're around,

646
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Speaker 1: and now I can put them to use so let's

647
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Speaker 1: move forward here. Let's move forward here. We heard from

648
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson there at the top, Tony, Let's get right

649
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Speaker 1: to it. Man. It's uh Cam Robinson coming off the

650
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: knee last year. You heard him say it was it's

651
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: night and day this year to last year, it wasn't

652
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: even cleared yet at this time a season ago, and

653
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: he said that he really didn't feel normal until like

654
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: the last five games of the season. Um, but that's

655
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: kind of what I think we were talking about all

656
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: year with Cam Robinson. What can you expect now from Cam?

657
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: And then we'll get to Will Richardson in just a moment.

658
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Speaker 1: What did you make of Cam's comments there? Yeah, let

659
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Speaker 1: me let me just start pretty preface, like there's like

660
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: a doubt there's very many people in this organization or

661
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: this team or the city that are rooting harder than

662
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: I am for Cam Robinson because I really like Cam.

663
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: I think he's a big, physical guy, that man. He

664
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: brings its nast dat of meanness to that group that

665
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: they need um and I love that he feels better

666
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: for me though, it's gonna be like the proof is

667
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: gonna be in the pudding when we're gonna watch tape

668
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: and we'll watch practice and everything else. Then we get

669
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: into the games. Does he revert to his bad habits?

670
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: Does he revert to his poor footwork? Because this was

671
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: not a knee issue. This was pre knee. He had

672
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: some footwork issues. Now he's such a big, powerful athletic

673
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: man he can get away with it. And now it

674
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: was exasperated last year because of the no doubt about it,

675
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: and I get know what he was experiencing. I've been

676
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: through it and it takes time, and jeffs as well.

677
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: It takes you time to get back to feeling like

678
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: two year old self. But I still go back to

679
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: For me, I'm watching his feet and I'm watching this

680
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: technique because in my opinion, Jeff, this was a pre

681
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: knee issue. Um that I hope he cleans it up

682
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. One, I love to have

683
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: a left tackle, franchise left tackle, and I think Camber

684
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: obviously gonna be that. And then for him individually, big

685
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: year because he's gonna be a free jent and if

686
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: he does figure it out, go look at LARRMYE. Tuncil's

687
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: contract of twenty two million bucks a year. He's gonna

688
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: get paid and I'm always for guys getting paid. Well,

689
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: he's not gonna approach that category just because Larry Mee

690
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: Tuncil has been able to do it, you know, year

691
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: after year after year. But I mean Cam has an

692
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to be able to to take care of himself significantly.

693
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: And and Tony right, and that the feet issue or

694
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: if the feat issues that he's had didn't just show

695
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: up because of the knee injury he had him before,

696
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: they were probably exacerbated a little bit last year because

697
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: of the knee injury. And it's kind of sometimes hard.

698
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: I've been there, Tony, You've been there. It's hard to

699
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: work on technique when you're just trying to find a

700
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: way to get through the practice, you know. So, and

701
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: he's got a good offensive line coach and coach Warhop.

702
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: If there's anybody that's gonna be able to coach the

703
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: technique in the in the Cam, it's gonna be coach Warhop.

704
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: So and I'm with Tony. I hope that he is

705
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: able to find the groove. I'm hope he's able to

706
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: improve because I love him, and what I love about

707
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: him is he is a dominant run blocker at times,

708
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: and there's not many left tackles that are playing at

709
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: the NFL level right now that you sit there and

710
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: you go, dang, that guy can run block and look

711
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: at him finish five, you know, five yards down the

712
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: field on a guy. But Cam is one of those guys. Now, Look,

713
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: will had did an impressive job when he was in there,

714
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: and I think this is a great situation that. Look,

715
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: competition is a beautiful thing, and it will make both

716
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: guys better by having them compete against each other for

717
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: that playing time. So let's see it. Let's see the

718
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: cop Petitian. Let it begin. Yeah, let mean and I'll

719
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: say this, let's pick up on that thread, Jeff Um.

720
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: I never understood last year why they didn't give Will

721
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: rich is In the chance to compete for the job

722
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: throughout the year when when Cam was obviously not obviously

723
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: was struggling at times Um with technique and his knee

724
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: and his strength and everything else. And I I was

725
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: thoroughly impressed for a guy who was asked about two

726
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: days before opening day to go kick out the left

727
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: tackle position you never played before. And I thought he

728
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: played in the two games, the two games that he played,

729
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: I thought he was good. I thought he saw it. Now,

730
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: everyone go back to it. He got beat for a

731
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: sack and in two games he gave up like three

732
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: pressures in a sack. Okay, great, that happens you're playing

733
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: from behind. I mean, all kinds of things happened. And

734
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: you know that as well as I do, Jeff. But

735
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: if you watch him on tape and you watch his

736
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: technique like he's not a guard, Let's be clear. I

737
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: don't think he's a guard. He is a He can

738
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: play you in a tackle position. And I'm I for

739
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: one thought he'd get a shot out last year to

740
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: kick out the left tackle and compete with Cam. And

741
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm glad they're giving him the chance now, and I

742
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: do think it'll make Cam better. Tony. What did he

743
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: play in college? Though? Right tackle? You're around him a bit.

744
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 1: He was a right tackle in college, pretty much dominant right. Yeah,

745
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: that's all you ever sold? Did he? So I'm not mistaken.

746
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: I know what NC state. He never took a snap

747
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: at left tackle. I think it was all the way

748
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: back to high school. He never been a left hander.

749
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: Stands um. I mean he was a he was a

750
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: right tackle. Only they drafted him. They thought he could

751
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: play some guard Um, I don't think he's a natural guard.

752
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: He's pretty long, and I think the suddenness sometimes gets

753
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: on top of him a little bit quick in the

754
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: past game. I think he can run block as a guard. UM.

755
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: I think he's better at space, which would lean him

756
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: towards the tackle position. And um, I was shocked, for

757
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: one that he was as effective as he was uh

758
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: in that opening game last year and even the first

759
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: two games at left tackle, for having never done it

760
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: and uh and with rise he didn't get more reps

761
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: at it when Cam was obviously struggling because coming back

762
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: in the knee. Yeah, let me just add this too, though,

763
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: I think from a from a coaching standpoint there, there's

764
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: probably got to be a lot of comfort knowing that

765
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: you know when you go into a game. Okay, Cam

766
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: Robinson has been a left tackle his entire life and

767
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: that's all he's ever played. Well, now that we've got

768
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: Will Richardson who he can play right tackle. He didn't college.

769
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: He's proven to us that he's played left tackle, he

770
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: competed for time at the right guard spot and can

771
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: play guard. So I think from a comfort standpoint in

772
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: the reality is, if you're in coaching you want to

773
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: be comfortable going into a game day and you feel

774
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: really comfortable having Will Richardson as being your six guy

775
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: or seventh guy if you got somebody else who's a

776
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: backup center, but you feel really good about him having

777
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: that flexibility to play multiple positions. Whereas, Okay, if all

778
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Will is your left tackle, he's got

779
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: to be significantly better than Cam Robinson because you need

780
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: to have a reason to take Cam Robins said, Okay,

781
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: now we need to train him to be able to

782
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: be maybe that swing guy, and that's a lot to ask.

783
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: So I think if this is a competition, then Will

784
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: has to be significantly better, not just that much better,

785
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: but that much better than Cam to be able to

786
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: take him out of that swing role and insert him

787
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: in as a starter. Let's come back. One final segment

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Speaker 1: I'm all in for that. Leonard Fournette is not a jerk,

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00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: he says Jaguar's Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logaman,

849
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: Tony BASSELLI. I'm curious to see Leonard play this year.

850
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: Obviously had a good year last year statistically. Um gotta

851
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: get in the end zone. A little bit more. But

852
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: it's a contract year and Tony, you know what that means. Um,

853
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: if there isn't motivation before, which there always has been,

854
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: there certainly is now for Leonard. You know, what was

855
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: the context of him not being the jerk? I didn't

856
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: What was the question did you do something? Made something?

857
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: I think that in the off season off season, there

858
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: were some comments that maybe he was unhappy around here,

859
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: and there was they were talking about trading him away.

860
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: That was the storyline a little bit in the offseason,

861
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: and he was a little disruntled at times and he

862
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: wanted to explain himself a little bit there. Yeah. I

863
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: didn't understand that part. But okay, um, yeah, I mean, uh,

864
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: it's a big air for him. I don't see him.

865
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean outside of something crazy happening like where he

866
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: just goes crazy numbers, I don't see him. I think

867
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: this is his last year as a Jacksonville Jaguar. Um.

868
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't take the extra year, they didn't

869
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: extended the fifth year. Uh. And it'll be interesting to

870
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: see Jagrud's offense, you know, will he be the center

871
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: point where last year I mean they gave him the

872
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: ball and with the ricky quarterback. I mean he was

873
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: like everything, run game, pass game, you know, never came

874
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: off the field unless he was hurt, like the last

875
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: game when he couldn't play. So, um, it'll be interesting.

876
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's gonna be an important piece. This is

877
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: a team at is pretty young. They're best players are

878
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: you know, I mean as far as the guys who

879
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: are explosive are outside. Um, d J. Chark had a

880
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: great year. Uh so no the rookie I mean, big, powerful,

881
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: fast guy that they're going to count on. Um, So

882
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: you have some really young guys, you know, big questions

883
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: at the tight end with Tyler Eiffert, Um can he

884
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: have you know, he's been injury riddled throughout the last

885
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: several years of his career. And I say all that

886
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: because so it circles me back to Leonard four Nette.

887
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean he has to have a big year for

888
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: this team to be successful and to score points. I

889
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: mean him obviously not most important. It's Carter Minshew, but

890
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: he's pretty close up there because they're gonna need to

891
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: find production, uh to score points in offense. Well, he's

892
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: been one of the most consistent producers for this offense

893
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years is from from a

894
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: production and touches standpoint and he needs to be exactly that,

895
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: especially this year for a couple of different reasons. Some

896
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: of them RESI on his side of the ball, I

897
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: mean partner Minshew being a first time starting quarterback, you've

898
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: got a wide receiver group besides d J. Chart. I mean,

899
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: and he did it for one year, one year only

900
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: it's very unproven. You have a tight end group that

901
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: I will say this. I don't care if Tyler Eiffer

902
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: was a veteran guy or not. He's unproven too because

903
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: it hadn't proven injurious yeah that he hasn't can't stay

904
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: on the field. He did it for one year last year.

905
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: And I think the one thing of note watching his film,

906
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffert's film, is that once he got the ball,

907
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: he didn't do a whole lot of exciting things with

908
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. It was like he was

909
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: in self preservation mode a little bit, looking to make

910
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: sure that he didn't take any tough hits. So okay,

911
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: so where are you going to get that electrics, you know,

912
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: consistent performance from while I think Leonard Fordette has to

913
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: be one of those guys. The offensive line has to

914
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: be one of the guys because it also reaches to

915
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, and that the Jaguars

916
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: defense is construction in time of possession and controlling the

917
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: clock and keeping the defense off the field is going

918
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: to be I think very important for this Jaguars defense

919
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: until it confined a little bit of rhythm. I mean, here,

920
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: here's the crazy thing. A couple of years ago, we

921
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: were talking about one of the best defenses in the league.

922
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: Is this the best defense in the league? And now

923
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: we're talking about the importance of an offensive line and

924
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: a running game to help maybe lessen the burden on

925
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: this defense. But I mean, how things have changed for

926
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: this Jaguars football team and a couple of years to

927
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: go from that, you know, the elite of elite defenses

928
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: in the National Football League to now having a lot

929
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: of question marks across the board on the defensive side

930
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: of the ball. Jeff, what's your biggest question? I mean,

931
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: just and I know where you want to go with this, JP,

932
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna just steer it myself. What is your

933
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 1: biggest question? Because I think you bring up a great point.

934
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at both sides of the ball.

935
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: Um a lot of questions in offense, and we always

936
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of just said, yeah, but the defense is good. Well,

937
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: there might be more questions on defense than there are

938
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: on offensive. Oh, there absolutely, as I think, and as

939
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: you look at that, what's your biggest what is your

940
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: biggest question or concern on defense? I'll start with what

941
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: what is the most important aspect of being a good

942
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: defense the National Football League? And it's got to start

943
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: with stopping to run? And we saw Tony you saw

944
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: it last year. They had trouble stopping a run and

945
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: stopping the run. You gotta be good in the middle.

946
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: And when I say the middle, nose tackle, three technique

947
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: inside linebackers because there's two and then safety. Um, are

948
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: they strong at at that middle area on the defense? Well,

949
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: you had one of your guys out woods opt out

950
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: gunners on non football illness. He's out. Joe Schoberg. I

951
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: think has a lot to prove. Yet, even though he

952
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: was an expensive free agent, mile Jack hasn't played will

953
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: before consistently. So how will he look because last year

954
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: when he played, Mike didn't have a great year. Were

955
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: the performance of the safe he's consistent at all? Last

956
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: year no, you know, so you have some mistacker on

957
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: Harrison exactly didn't have you know, the best performance of

958
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: his career last year. So uh, that's a major concern

959
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: of mine is that this Jaguars defense went from Ben

960
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow, you had Darius and the league

961
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: and Calais and in pause going back a couple of

962
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: years with Miles Jack and Telvin and uh, consistency at

963
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: safety with two veteran guys, and now all of a

964
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: sudden a couple of years, it's all changed, which you know,

965
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: the league is about changing. It always happened, but that's

966
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: a lot of change in the short amount of time.

967
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: Interesting all the things you just said, Jeff, I agree,

968
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: and you know one of the big stories this offseason.

969
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: Even the campus youn Goquay and Gockway doesn't fix any

970
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: of those problems you just talked about. No, No, he

971
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: does not, none of them. It's still a good pass rusher.

972
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: Trust you want him on your team, but you want

973
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: to be can't but you want him out there. I'm

974
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: just saying, what's so interesting one of the guys that

975
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: so much discussion has been around, and don get him

976
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: and can we get him back? And what are we

977
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,959
Speaker 1: gonna do with them, and he's like all the things

978
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: you just said, has almost zero impact on um because

979
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean, at his best he said above average running player,

980
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: but he plays outside and he's you know outside in Yeah,

981
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: when you say when you say at his best, he

982
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: has moments where he's an above average that's what I said. Yeah,

983
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's a pure pass rusher. He's a disruptor

984
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: from the edge. Um. But if you look at you,

985
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: he really because of what you said, his impact even

986
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: goes down when you think about it, because you can run,

987
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: you know what else you can't do. You can't get

988
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: teams in the third and long and passing only situations,

989
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: and so that is it's such a I mean, I

990
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: couldn't agree more. I think you know one of the

991
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: things and done talking about it at the beginning. It

992
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: can't be brought up to the Pavin Bryant and you

993
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: and I have talked abo taming a lot. He's gonna

994
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: be the three technique. He's gonna have to become a

995
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: productive player on this team if they want to be

996
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: able to stop the run um or have a chance

997
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: to stop to run. And I mean that's just one

998
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: Showberg agreed, he's gonna If you look at Cleveland, what

999
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: was he known for. He was more known for his

1000
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: pass coverage and a good pass defender. Um, he's got

1001
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: to become a middle linebacker run stuff and guy Miles

1002
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: Jack and all the way down to the safeties. UM.

1003
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: And I bring that up because everyone talks about Josh

1004
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: Allen and if you get your unique back and uh

1005
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: chase on who you drafted in the first round out

1006
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: of L s U. All these guys are explosive, splash

1007
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: players that can really get after the quarterback and physical

1008
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: and run around and make plays you can't stop to run. Well,

1009
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: you really nify the impact those type of players can

1010
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: have on your football team. All right, guys, let's go

1011
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: around the National Football League at some headlines before we

1012
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: get out of here. And we start with the league

1013
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: and the nfl p A agreeing to extend daily of

1014
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: A nineteen testing through September five Tier one and two

1015
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: positive tests below one percent so far since a arrival,

1016
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: and no individual club rate is greater than two percent.

1017
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: So Tony, so far, so good. J Let me let

1018
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: me jump in right there real quick because I held

1019
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: my nose, Tony, because you probably went through this process.

1020
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: You're talking about daily COVID testing For the people that

1021
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: aren't familiar with this, the nasal swab technique, Jeff, I

1022
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: have not, but I've got some friends that have had

1023
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: to go through it, and they said it's it's absolutely horrendous. Yeah.

1024
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: I call it the brain tickler because they don't just

1025
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: do your nose and all the way to the brain

1026
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: and you know, picking your brain. But I'm pretty sure

1027
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: that if I'm not mistaken, the test that the players

1028
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: are doing the NFL is not the nasal swap that

1029
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: goes all the way back. It's more of a just

1030
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: internal It's maybe advanced technology. That's what someone told me.

1031
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: I know, if it's accurate, if God bless him, if

1032
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: they have to do the brain tickler every day, I

1033
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: do it seven times. It's like it's brutal um and

1034
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, it's uh, you know, it's goods. I

1035
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: was one. I've had it. My family's had it. I

1036
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: said this the other day about for State football, my

1037
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: kids playing there. I think they should play football. I

1038
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: think I think I was disappointed the Big ten in

1039
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: the Pact twelve what they did. Um, if you look

1040
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: at the numbers the risk factors of the age group

1041
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: of these men who are playing football, whether it's in

1042
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: college or professional football, for the most part, very very

1043
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: low risk. I'm not saying it's zero risk, but it's

1044
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: low risk. And I know this. If I was a

1045
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: player on the things, I'd be worried about. As far

1046
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: as happening to be on the football field, COVID would

1047
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: not be at the top of it. Now. The key is,

1048
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: with all of this being uh, all that being said,

1049
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: it's not around the facility I worry about. It's not

1050
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: on the field. I worry about it, says these guys

1051
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: get out of camp and get into the daily life

1052
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: of being just a person. Um you are. They have

1053
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: to discipline not to go out and do things they

1054
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't be and be around people they shouldn't be around.

1055
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: As far as go home, you know, be smart, beaut

1056
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: your family, like, try to isolate yourself as much as possible.

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Speaker 1: We just saw a rookie I don't know the kid's

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Speaker 1: name up in Seattle got cut today because in camp

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Speaker 1: he tried to sneak a uh female friend into the

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Speaker 1: facility um when he wasn't supposed to, broking breaking all

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Speaker 1: testing protocols. And everything else, and so that's what you

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Speaker 1: worry about. Like, these are young guys, and we forget

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Speaker 1: that sometimes, Like you have some older veterans. Actually I

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Speaker 1: should say that the Jaguars don't, but other teams of

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Speaker 1: older veterans. Um. But these are young guys. And the

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Speaker 1: key is for this thing to work and for us

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Speaker 1: to get through this without um significant positive tests is

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Speaker 1: what they do outside of the facility. I think that's

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Speaker 1: really important, um, for these guys to be thinking about.

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Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. Some other notes to say. George

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Speaker 1: Kittle agrees to a five year, seventy five million dollar

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Speaker 1: extension with San Francisco. Everson Griffin gets a one year

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Speaker 1: deal worth up to six million dollars with the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and the ratings down for Hard Knocks in the first

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Speaker 1: episode this week drew only two seventy thousand viewers, as

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Speaker 1: opposed to over seven hundred thousand a year ago. Tony,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. We'll talk to you again next week next

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Speaker 1: talk to your Monday. The show kicks off Monday, JP.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, Yeah, it's it's coming in quick. Pete Prisco

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Speaker 1: will join us on Monday as well. Uh Tony Boselli

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Speaker 1: for Jeff Logerman and our entire crew. I'm JP Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next the Doug Morone Show, and that's along

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Radio Network. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network.