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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I was so live on a Tuesday edition of the program.

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Speaker 2: Merely Bo Gibbe in studio. G Man is here, doctor

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Speaker 2: j is here.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's here, everybody in the building is here. It's called

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Speaker 3: the workday, eh, not for some people. We don't even

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Speaker 3: know where three hours of meetings.

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Speaker 2: He's in a meeting too. Yeah. Yeah, it's outside amongst nature.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh huh. I hope he's shanking. He doesn't have

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Speaker 3: that in him. I know he doesn't. That's the problem.

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Speaker 3: I can will it. I was hoping for rain, I

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Speaker 3: was hoping for weather.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Nothing, it's I don't know where he is. I

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Speaker 2: know what he's doing, but I don't know where he's

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Speaker 2: doing it. And it could be so great of a

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Speaker 2: place that he doesn't even want to burden me with

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Speaker 2: the jealousy that would come with knowing where he is.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't know where he is. Normally, on a

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Speaker 2: situation like this, I get a heads up on where

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Speaker 2: he's chasing around the small ball, but I don't know today.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've not heard, and I know you

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Speaker 2: haven't heard either.

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Speaker 3: But good news, you haven't been around. So I've volunteered

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Speaker 3: you for numerous activities in London next week. I had

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Speaker 3: a meeting at noon today. I think you were supposed

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Speaker 3: to be you could do that. Yep, they looked at me.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Nathan's free all week and whatever you need.

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Speaker 2: Yep, many things you need him to host. Yep.

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Speaker 3: You want obligations, I'll give you obligations.

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Speaker 2: That's right, dude. How do you wrap your head around

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Speaker 2: the fact that a week from tomorrow you're in London?

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Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, like this, we say this all the

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Speaker 2: time for the audience when you One thing about doing

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Speaker 2: this gig is it's treadmill right. Every week repeats itself,

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Speaker 2: and so the opponents are different, but the rhythms are

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Speaker 2: the same, and so you just you go through them.

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Speaker 2: It goes by in a blank. You wake up, you're

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Speaker 2: at the combine and you're like, what happened? It's the

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Speaker 2: same thing every year. I always tell my wife, I

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Speaker 2: know you do the same. It's like, all right, i'll

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Speaker 2: see it Christmas. I hope to see it for.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's February, January, February somewhere in there.

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Speaker 2: But you kind of get usually get a little bit

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Speaker 2: of an unplug around the holidays. Not much, although you

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Speaker 2: guys have been on the road in the holidays too,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, all of a sudden you got a London

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Speaker 2: thing dropping into this. The Steelers over there, Steelers and

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Speaker 2: Vikings are obviously over there this week. Minnesota is doing this.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be there for two weeks. Two weeks.

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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not sure how that goes.

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like.

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Speaker 3: If you're the Vikings, you almost have to fly the

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Speaker 3: significant others over I mean that's a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I do wonder like how they handle that on

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Speaker 2: a two week or if they do fly, I mean,

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Speaker 2: not going to do that. The other thing I would

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Speaker 2: are there like massive resorts that you can put all

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Speaker 2: you're there for two weeks, you don't you're not sight seeing,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you're practicing, you're working.

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Speaker 2: They're all work days. Like I'd be very curious to know,

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Speaker 2: because my guess is they'd rather just stay over there.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're in Dublin, like you're going I talked

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Speaker 2: like just staying in Dublin. Do you just stay in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, you know, because obligations start, you know,

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Speaker 2: But well you have to. You can't be in the

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Speaker 3: Work trip, correct, And that's that's how it was in

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Speaker 3: I flew, I flew my wife and kids over. They

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Speaker 3: had a great time in London.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I got to see London for three hours.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, there's the London nye, there's London Bridge.

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Speaker 3: a game tomorrow. See on down the road. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It has the feel of like an exhibition, but it counts. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's the thing that's kind of crazy with it.

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Speaker 2: And this will be the first time anyone's done with

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Speaker 2: the Vikings are attempting to do correct, correct, and.

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Speaker 3: Given what the league is attempting to do with the

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Speaker 2: With the broadcast all that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and as of last Thursday, there was a lot

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Speaker 3: how crazy things are. And God bless the engineering staff.

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Speaker 3: We basically took our home gear out of service after

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Speaker 3: the game Sunday. We we have to go through it.

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Speaker 3: Everything has to be weighed. I have to a serial

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I have I have.

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Speaker 3: To take a complete inventory that was due Monday. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like that'll be here later this we Plus it had

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Speaker 3: I mean you're doing all that in the meantime, Like

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Speaker 3: Now I'm on the advanced team with the equipment guys,

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Speaker 3: so we have to go. We're leaving at like eleven

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Speaker 3: I'll a bus back home Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The bus, Oh yeah, yeah, sucking it suck. Bus.

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Speaker 3: Twelve hour flight? Bus suck?

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Speaker 2: Suck? What would you rather do? The flight isn't twelve?

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Speaker 2: Isn't it directs? It's like eight? It's eight? Really? I

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Speaker 3: Okay, I thought so eight. It looks like eight hours.

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Speaker 2: All right, So eight hour flight? Or is it a

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Speaker 2: four hour bus ride? Uh? It's two and a half

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Speaker 2: to Detroit. It's only four It's only two and a half.

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Speaker 3: Huh. I thought it's two and a half. So literally

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Speaker 3: I have two nights at home. Yeah, like act accordingly,

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Speaker 2: Leaving for London. As you were going through all this show,

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Speaker 2: as you're going through all of that, I couldn't help

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Speaker 2: but thinking about Zigura is probably on like sixteen of

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Speaker 3: And he's off one could be I.

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Speaker 2: Mean flying maybe thirteen Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, he's going

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Speaker 4: More than a corner right now.

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Speaker 2: I think it's get a photo of us fordquarter. I'll

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Speaker 2: be so angry. Good God, bless.

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Speaker 3: I expect some gear. I expect a little so he

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Speaker 3: we if we were, if he were playing Augusta that

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Speaker 3: But like, yeah, it's just.

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Speaker 2: A lot going on, man, And it's a lot for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's you're I mean, we don't have

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Speaker 3: a bye week after either. You know, we're gonna land

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Speaker 3: at like one in the morning on Monday morning after

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Speaker 3: our game with London. It's two hours through customs. If

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and away we go. Anyway you go again. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And it's you know, for a team like Minnesota over

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Speaker 2: a very strange start in terms of trying to make

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Speaker 2: Atlanta goes and lays an egg at Carolina. You go

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Speaker 2: over there, you're gonna play a Pittsburgh team that is

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Speaker 2: haven't been lights out in any way, shape or form,

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Speaker 2: And last we saw them, they were going to have

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Speaker 2: a half one hundred to Minnesota. So it's us in

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Speaker 2: Baltimore at the bottom. Both at one and two. You

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Speaker 2: next week, this week where other Baltimore is at Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: either the Chiefs or Ravens is going to be one

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Speaker 2: and three. Yeah, And I don't think either one or

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Speaker 2: bad football teams. I think Pat Mahomes is thrown to

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Speaker 2: a bunch of guys who wouldn't play for some high

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Speaker 2: schools around here because his guys aren't healthy. But he's

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Speaker 2: gonna get Riche Rice back. He probably after six games,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna get Xavier Worthy back. Maybe this week they're

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Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you about Baltimore because to me,

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Speaker 2: they look like one of the best teams in football.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, the loss to Buffalo is

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Speaker 2: really good football teams. There's two really good football teams.

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Speaker 2: And I do think that the Henry fumble was kind

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Speaker 2: of like it was just like getting punched in the

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Speaker 2: face for them. Now it only resulted in a field

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Speaker 2: goal for Detroit, but it was such a gut punch

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Speaker 2: for them because they had got a stop, they got

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Speaker 2: up and then his reaction was so explosive. Third fumble

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Speaker 2: it was almost like that was a catalyst for them,

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Speaker 2: he might be just fine to do.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 2: I think that guy is he's one of the best

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Speaker 2: coaches in the league. I think it's incredible that it

436
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Speaker 2: almost doesn't matter who the quarterback is they win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're doing it defensively, they are, I mean,

438
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Speaker 3: they're really relying on their defense, and yet they might

439
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Speaker 3: have the best non quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's so funny. I posed that question to

442
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Speaker 2: a PFF guy this morning. I said, who's the best

443
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Speaker 2: player in the NFL? And he goes Miles like in

444
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Speaker 2: terms of like I said, the way I phrase it was,

445
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Speaker 2: who's the best player in the NFL if you take

446
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Speaker 2: out positional importance And he goes Miles and then the

447
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: other guys. He said, it was up to that or

448
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: you know, Jefferson and Chase and all the guys that

449
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Speaker 2: have gotten paid. But yeah, yeah they have. So he's

450
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 2: they've done a good job with it, and you can

451
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Speaker 2: be a little bit patient with it.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know, is Carson Wentz Like Carson

453
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Speaker 3: Wentz wasn't the reason they smoked Cincinnati?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I mean they had the

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Speaker 2: I want to get the name right, Rogers is the

456
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Speaker 2: last name. I'm certain of it. But do you have

457
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Speaker 2: a g man? You know the kid I'm talking about

458
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Speaker 2: for Minnesota who had the best game of defensive players

459
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Speaker 2: maybe ever had Rogers. Yeah, yeah, so Isaiah Rodgers had so.

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Speaker 2: He had two defensive touchdowns in the game. And then

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Speaker 2: he had so he had two defensive touchdowns, He had

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Speaker 2: the two interceptions. He also had a fumble I believe

463
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Speaker 2: in this game. Yeah, it was the first ever ninety

464
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Speaker 2: nine point nine.

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Speaker 3: Great six in the game from the team. But yeah,

466
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Speaker 3: he had himself the day of days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like an all time day. He's a sixth

468
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Speaker 2: round pick out of Massachusetts, twenty seven years old. I

469
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Speaker 2: know had a day had to day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, god e lastly, really it also a cool story.

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Speaker 3: But that's what That's why I'm like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: is Carson Wentz good enough?

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I It was a game that I had on because

475
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Speaker 2: I was, you know, paying attention to Cincinnati. So Wentz

476
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Speaker 2: in the game was He's fine. He's fourteen to twenty one,

477
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Speaker 2: seventy three, two touchdowns, no picks, the rating of one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty. I mean that's more efficient than JJ

479
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: is right now. And you know against I mean Cincinna's

480
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Speaker 2: defense isn't great by any stretch, but it's it's it's

481
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Speaker 2: better than what JJ's doing right now, and that's kind

482
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Speaker 2: of all they need. They ran it. Okay, you got

483
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Speaker 2: Jefferson going a little bit five for seventy five, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's that's an interesting one. You know how

485
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Speaker 2: they go about that decision? Yeah, absolutely. A couple other

486
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Speaker 2: things around the league. I mentioned the Nick Bosa injury

487
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: done for the season with an ACL. They just have

488
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: the worst injury luck. Yeah, forty nine ers. It's unbelievable.

489
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Speaker 2: How many guys get yeats lost.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And we'll talk about this in one thought. Yeah, I

492
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: somehow have missed the fact that they're three and oh.

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Speaker 2: Well, every game is like the one they just beat

494
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: Arizona and there that's kind of what they're all like.

495
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: They win every game that way. They're just clutched and

496
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: they make plays. I mean they're playing Mac Jones, for

497
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Speaker 2: God's sakes, I have party. The party now. Bosa is out,

498
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: like they just but somehow they string it together and

499
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: win games. It's it's wild. Former Steelers running back Najie

500
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: Harris tore his achilles. That was did you see that one?

501
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 2: So that's a total non contact, just popped. I always

502
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: go back to that conversation. We say it every time

503
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: with the ligaments like muscles, fine tune, fine tune, fine

504
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: tuned ligaments or ligaments, and they just cannot take what

505
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 2: these guys put on them. We just see way too

506
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: many achilles, way too many tendon injuries. This is the

507
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Speaker 2: other big news of the day to New York. Giants

508
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: will officially make a quarterback change, so we Jackson Dart,

509
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Speaker 2: their first round pick out of Ole Miss this past year.

510
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 2: He will start the team's Week four game against the Chargers,

511
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: following an zero to three start to the season with

512
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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson at the helm. That is that is the

513
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: craziest quarterback room. So they've got Wilson, they got Jamis, correct,

514
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Speaker 2: and they have a first round pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in a room and they skipped over James. We're

516
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 3: just gonna go with the room right to the Jamis.

517
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: Some practice squad. Put Jameis to Cincinnati. At least it'd

518
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Speaker 3: be fun. Let him throw some bombs. You'd get bombs again.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna give up forty points anyways, Yes, you might

520
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: Wilson was awful on the Sunday Night er and maybe

522
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: that was just too much for ownership and people in

523
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Speaker 2: power to be able to bear.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like this is definitely not a coaching decision.

525
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Speaker 3: This is an ownership that's going you know what, your

526
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: time is quickly coming to an end, like you're going

527
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Speaker 3: to play this guy going forward.

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Speaker 2: It goes back to the same thing that's happening in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: And I would say it about the Giants as well.

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Speaker 2: If you know going into the draft that you're going

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Speaker 2: to go quarterback, then if you've gotten to that point,

532
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Speaker 2: it's usually because the head coach isn't working. Make the

533
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Speaker 2: change so that the coach and the quarterback walk in

534
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Speaker 2: together and the coach gets the quarterback that he wants.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the idea of what's going on down

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Speaker 2: in Tennessee, like Brian Callahan is probably not long for

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Speaker 2: that job. It seems like it's probably gonna be gone

538
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Speaker 2: after this year. So okay, fine, But if that's the case,

539
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: you just drafted cam Ward. Now in year two, he's

540
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: got to learn a new system. That's not it man.

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Speaker 2: And I would say the same thing here with the Giants,

542
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Speaker 2: like if you're drafting Jackson dark but then give him

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Speaker 2: a quarter a coach who wanted him to be the

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Speaker 2: guy who's the head man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny you bring up the Titans because Brian

546
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Speaker 4: Callahan relinquished play calling duties today. He did, Yes, so

547
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Speaker 4: the quarterback coach bo hartegree will be calling was moving forward.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, there were some rumors yesterday that

549
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Speaker 3: Callahan was gonna get canned yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I know it's way too early for that. Yeah. Well, yeah,

551
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Speaker 2: who's gonna be the interim? Is Dad? I mean Bill's

552
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: down there? Yeah, I mean it's Yeah. So that whole

553
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: thing was crazy, like the firing of Rabel and making

554
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: that change the way that they did. And look, they

555
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: got a new stadium coming, they need cam Ward to

556
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Speaker 2: be a part of that, and they need to be

557
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: playing well by the time they get there. So that's

558
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: that's all of those factors kind of kind of fall

559
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: into place there.

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Speaker 3: But again, you draft, if you're gonna draft a young

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Speaker 3: quarterback and you're gonna play him, you gotta put stuff

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Speaker 3: around it.

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Speaker 2: You do, and you also, yeah, that's kind of it too.

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Speaker 2: I that's why I think Chicago was so close to

565
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: doing it perfectly. They really were. They just should have

566
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: hired Ben Johnson last year correct, and then screwed the coach.

567
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: They screwed up the coach stuff. They did everything else.

568
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: They have all the talent, they just screwed up the

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Speaker 2: coach stuff. And and had they just gone to Ben

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Speaker 2: Johnson last year, this would be year two for Caleb

571
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Speaker 2: in the system. He wouldn't have had the other system

572
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: that gave him bad habits. Yep, they could to coach

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Speaker 2: him out of the uca USC habits right away. And

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Speaker 2: that's kind of how I feel about Callahan and Dart, Like,

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Speaker 2: if you're going to draft a quarterback, if you know

576
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Speaker 2: you're going to draft a quarterback, then you got it.

577
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Speaker 2: If that, if you if you're even on the fence

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00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: and making a coaching change, make the change so that

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00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: or recommit to that coach so that he doesn't have

580
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: to look over his shoulder every two minutes. Dart looked

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Speaker 2: really good in the preseason. It's funny, Eli Manning, did

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Speaker 2: you tell here that story Eli Manning told last week

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00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: with Jackson Dart. So they're both old miss guys, both

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Speaker 2: drafted by the Giants in the first round. And Eli

585
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: was like, hey, man if you ever need anything in

586
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Speaker 2: New York, let me know. So Jackson texted him wanting

587
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: like a hookup with reservations, yeah, and Eli's like, I'm

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00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: not doing that because he is at New I mean

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00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: it's Manhattan, so like some pretty tough places to get

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Speaker 2: to there, even for a first round pick of the Giants,

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Speaker 2: Eli Manning can probably get into anywhere in New York.

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Speaker 2: But that's the that's the I thought that was funny

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Speaker 9: Well, the first one I think is the Grant help

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Speaker 9: An interception. You know, it's funny as a former player

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Speaker 9: and you spend so many years in meetings, team meetings

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Speaker 9: and you see the preparation. I looked at that and

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Speaker 9: it definitely was a risk, but it was a calculated

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Speaker 9: risk and I think the reason that that happened is

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Speaker 9: Grant Help. But probably now that he's you know, what

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Speaker 9: we consider a season, Vet probably watches a lot more

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Speaker 9: film now than he did his rookie year. I man,

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Speaker 9: that's what guys do, is they get you know, more

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Speaker 9: mature in the league and they become a pro. They

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Speaker 9: watch a ton of film. And you could tell that

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Speaker 9: Grant took a calculated risk in that play, probably because

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Speaker 9: you watch so much film, saw the formation, saw they

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Speaker 9: were probably trying to get the ball out quick, and

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Speaker 9: he made that.

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Speaker 2: And I think what was really cool is that led.

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Speaker 9: Up to what we all saw a very efficient offensive

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Speaker 9: play and thank god, you know, I would say the

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Speaker 9: reward of that was probably the ref sprinting in and

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Speaker 9: touching the ball from twenty yards away, but then having

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Speaker 9: the mindset of Ethan Possek putting the ball down exactly

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Speaker 9: where it was so that allowed the ref to touch

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Speaker 9: the ball, and then they ran a play that they

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Speaker 9: knew they could run that get lined up immediately, and

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Speaker 9: these teams practice this all the time, I can guarantee it.

648
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Speaker 9: And just to set up that go ahead field goal,

649
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 9: but to have Andre Smith go out there after the

650
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 9: tragedy that happened to his mother and then missing the

651
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 9: first kicks in the previous games, you know, that extra

652
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 9: point in the Cincinnati game as he rookie to come back,

653
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 9: hit a field goal and hit the game order from

654
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 9: fifty five. It just all came together and was an awesome,

655
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 9: awesome reward for the fans in the organization.

656
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: It was I like what you said about both of those.

657
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: I want to do this thing with you for a second,

658
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: because obviously you live in that world, in the vicinity

659
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: of that world for a long time is playing in

660
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: the National footballing as long as you did the mental

661
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: aspect of that. When you have something that doesn't go

662
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: the way that it's supposed to, how do you flip

663
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: that back? Yeah, So it's funny.

664
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 9: I hope Phil doesn't mind me saying this, but I

665
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 9: texted with Phil Dawson after, you know, the Cincinnati game,

666
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 9: and you know, I heard Andre Smith in the locker

667
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 9: room talk about his technique and how his hips kind

668
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 9: of came through and his lag and his leg and

669
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 9: he kind of pushed it, and I thought I saw

670
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 9: the same thing. And then Phil Dawson and I were

671
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 9: talking respectfully about the game and he said everything he

672
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 9: said is what I kind of saw. So I think

673
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 9: what was really cool about that is, you know, that

674
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 9: was not really.

675
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: A mental miss.

676
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 9: That sounded like it was definitely a technique, a physical

677
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 9: thing that he can watch film and correct. And what's

678
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 9: great is he comes out then and probably the most

679
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 9: pressure kick he'll have, and I think it's the longest

680
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 9: walk off field goal in Cleveland Brown's history.

681
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: From what I hear.

682
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 9: And to be able to be a rookie learn from

683
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 9: your mistakes and do that. But when we as a

684
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 9: kicker and punter, a lot of times every field goal

685
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 9: that I used to hold for Jay Feeley, Phil Dawson,

686
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 9: Matt Stover, they would always tell me one thing. And

687
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 9: so if they felt they were out of rhythm, they

688
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 9: would always tell me short step. And what that meant

689
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 9: is if they took a short step into the ball,

690
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 9: the second step would be short as well, so they

691
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 9: were grounded. They would have their hips to the ball.

692
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 9: If you would overstride the second step, natch, you would

693
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 9: overstride again and you wouldn't have you kind of fall back,

694
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 9: You wouldn't have all your pressure, and your technique goes by.

695
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 9: So what I always recommend to young kickers and planners

696
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 9: to talk to me if you ever kind of you know,

697
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 9: get in a funk and you're thinking about two to

698
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 9: three different things, focus on one thing one thing. And

699
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 9: that's what I learned from a lot of these vets

700
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 9: is just they just told me, Dave say this one

701
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 9: thing to me, because all the other stuff was just

702
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 9: you know, it was just motion and things they've done

703
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 9: their whole life. So I thought that was a pretty

704
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 9: cool thing for him to come back and correct that technique.

705
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: That's so great that you picked up on that postgame

706
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: and you and Phil having that dialogue, because I would

707
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: think from a thirty thousand feet novice perspective, that technique

708
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: I can fix, the mental thing can be a lot

709
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: more tricky, right, because there is no necessarily absolute solution

710
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: to that technique, all Right, this is what I did.

711
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: I can go do that again. Let me get right

712
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: back into my process. Mental can go any any number

713
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: of ways. Yeah, it's a good point.

714
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 9: And I think what's really great about the organization too,

715
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 9: is they stuck with him, right.

716
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: I mean, they no doubt. You know, this is a

717
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: young kid.

718
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 9: You know, they see what he's done in practice, they

719
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 9: see what he's done in camp and preseason. And I

720
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 9: think that's one thing about kickers and punters that's a

721
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 9: lot different than a quarterback.

722
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: Or running back.

723
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 9: You know, we miss a kick or two in a

724
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 9: key situation, or you shank a ball, or you don't

725
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 9: play some this side of the twenty, it's get rid

726
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 9: of the kid.

727
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: There's someone else on the street. Absolutely.

728
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 9: So what happens over time is you've seen in the

729
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 9: past guys that have gotten let go and go on

730
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 9: and have a long career. So I think it's really

731
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 9: kudos to your organization to see a young kid understand

732
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 9: he's talented and stick with him because here's the thing,

733
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 9: He's going to miss another.

734
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 2: Kick, you know what I mean, Yeah, it's going to happen.

735
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 9: You know, for a long time, eighty percent field goal

736
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 9: percentage was the NFL. It's just the fact that what

737
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 9: I thought was impressive that he said it was a technique.

738
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 9: He went back, worked hard, fixed it, and you can

739
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 9: see he was coming through the ball really clean in

740
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 9: that game.

741
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: Well, Dave, to your point, we have become I think,

742
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: almost callous to believe that every kick in the league

743
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: is automatic, Like you don't even think about I mean,

744
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm an old guy, but like fifty five yard field

745
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: goals would be like, okay, they're going to try a

746
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: fifty five yard are we sure? And we don't even

747
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: give it a second thought. Now we're just like fifty five. Fine.

748
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: Aubrey last week runs out and it's a sixty four yarder,

749
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: Like in his sleep.

750
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: Some high school kid just made a sixty starter.

751
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: You know what do you attribute that to?

752
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 9: Well, I mean it's just like anything, right, You got

753
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 9: better nutrition, you got better you got better training techniques.

754
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 9: You know, guys are taking care of their body. I mean,

755
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 9: just guys are just they're just learning that you have

756
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 9: to work out, you have to lift, you got to

757
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 9: get stronger. Also, you know, back in the old days

758
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 9: when I first started in for about two or three

759
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 9: you know years back in two thousand and two. The

760
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 9: balls weren't rubbed in like they are now. I mean,

761
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 9: back in the day, this ball would come out, you'd

762
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 9: have maybe ten minutes to break in the ends. You

763
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 9: have all the wax on it, and the ball was

764
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 9: very hard and stiff. Sure, now you got about forty

765
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 9: five to fifty minutes and guys, you know, there's guys

766
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 9: assigned that break in the balls because they're allowed to

767
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 9: do it, and it softens the leather, it breaks in

768
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 9: the ends, and so you get a little bit more

769
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 9: give on the ball. But you know, I was always taught,

770
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 9: not taught. I was always told from some of the

771
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 9: you know, better kickers in the league that if you're

772
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 9: going out and hit a yard field or a fifty

773
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 9: five year field goal, you really don't have that much

774
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 9: pressure because if you miss it, it's like, oh, it's

775
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 9: a sixty.

776
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: Yarder, it's sin's coming across people.

777
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: It's a fifty to fifty kick.

778
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 9: It's the forty, the forty twos, the forty eights, to

779
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 9: forty sevens, the forty those are the ones that I

780
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 9: think when you look at stats for a kicker, the

781
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 9: guys that are hitting those consistently are the guys that are,

782
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 9: in my opinion, very good kickers.

783
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: That's the one where you don't ever want to think

784
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: about it, right, just send him out there, put three

785
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: on the board, let's go play defense. Let's get to

786
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: the attitude with it.

787
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 9: But these kickers are getting a little more experience from

788
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 9: further kicks now they are the extra point being pushed back,

789
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 9: so that's becoming more second nature than in the past,

790
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 9: just kicking up, you know, field goal from the ten

791
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 9: yard line.

792
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: What have you made of watching Corey the last couple

793
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: of years.

794
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 9: I have the utmost respect for him. I think he

795
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 9: might be the most underrated punter in the league. Mess

796
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 9: with you a because he's just physically just gifted and strong.

797
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 9: He can really turn the ball backed up in.

798
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: The end zone. He can flip the field position. But

799
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: inside the twenties, he's you know.

800
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 9: He's And the one thing that I think people don't

801
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 9: realize when they watch the game on TV is how

802
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 9: how good a hangtime he gets to and it gets

803
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 9: the coverage team underneath it. So I don't really see

804
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 9: I don't watch it closely and watch the film and

805
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 9: break it down, but I don't really see a lot

806
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 9: of weaknesses in his game at all.

807
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: In terms of big picture stuff and talking to the

808
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: Great Dave's ass still of course managing director at the

809
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 2: Oswald Companies. Three games in week one, like six things

810
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: have to happen for you to lose. You really outplay

811
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: the Bengals in week one, you don't get the result,

812
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: and sports are fickle. Go Baltimore head to head, right

813
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: with him for a half and then it starts to

814
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: waterfall in the second half against a very very good team,

815
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: and then green Bay. This is the crazy thing about sports.

816
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: Green Bay is the better team for fifty plus minutes

817
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 2: and then in the end you're able to make plays

818
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: and you have a completely different feeling about what your

819
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: operation is. The other thing that happened in this game

820
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: against green Bay is we've got a run game. Now,

821
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: Quincheon can go. So from your perspective, give what you

822
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: saw Sunday juxtapposed to what you saw the first couple

823
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: of games. Do you see a blueprint now for success

824
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: for this team going forward?

825
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 7: Yeah?

826
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: I think you know.

827
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 9: I was always told that there's obviously three fastest game

828
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 9: you got offense, defense, special teams. If you can win

829
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 9: two out of the three in a game, you got

830
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 9: a good chance to win with if you limit your turnovers.

831
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 9: The thing about you know, when you look at how

832
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 9: I saw the game, and I've seen the first few games,

833
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 9: is you got to you got a fantastic, nasty defense.

834
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 9: I mean, the D line is playing a high level.

835
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 9: You got veterans in the secondary, You're able to shift

836
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 9: guys on the D line of the d end. I

837
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 9: mean this is a defense with a unbelievably bright coordinator

838
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 9: that's experienced that. I think not only you know, are

839
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 9: teams that they're watching film seeing you got Pat Mack.

840
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 9: If youre talking about the Browns, have you got? You

841
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 9: got ESPN and and everyone knows that when you look

842
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 9: at that, and you look at the special teams, and

843
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 9: you know, I think for the most part, besides a

844
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 9: couple of kicks, special teams have looked pretty good. You

845
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 9: take away the block punt, I get that, Yeah, But

846
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 9: I do think that's a combination of young players, a

847
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 9: lot of rookies playing and that's what they do. And

848
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 9: in the first four games, you're getting a custom getting

849
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 9: to know how to play with each other. So that's

850
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 9: the first four games, in my opinion. When it comes

851
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 9: to the offense, you have a veteran quarterback that quite

852
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 9: frankly has a brand new running back that just came

853
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 9: in and jumpkins for two games. You are dealing with

854
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 9: new receivers like Isaiah Bond that there's timing issues that

855
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 9: come with that with just familiarity to the receivers. You

856
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 9: have Harold Fan and that's coming in. That's a rookie, right,

857
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 9: So what I think is just the trajector rejectory is

858
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 9: only going to get better with time because you're getting

859
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 9: more familiar with these new players. And now you got

860
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 9: two tackles that are out. So offense is always changing, right,

861
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 9: But I think alive it has to do with You've

862
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 9: got a lot of rookies out there, and a lot

863
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 9: of that just comes with timing and trust and those

864
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 9: types of things. But I think it's also smart. The

865
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 9: way I'm watching the game is are we being a

866
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 9: little conservative of offense because no, our defense is so good,

867
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 9: so let's not turn the ball over, keep the game

868
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 9: close and allow defense to make plays, and we make

869
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 9: plays as we know as we can in the fourth

870
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 9: quarters as we're just wearing down defenses with our run game.

871
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 9: I don't know if that's the strategy, but it kind

872
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 9: of looks like and at the end of the day,

873
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 9: it worked well.

874
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: I think you nailed it. I mean, I think he

875
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: asked Kevin, that's probably the intent of the team they

876
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: put together this year was we knew we had one

877
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: of the best defenses in the NFL. You hope to

878
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: be even in special teams, then offensively, I mean, even

879
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: with the acquisition of Kenny Pickett, who we've sent since

880
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: out to the Raiders. I mean, the whole thing was,

881
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: don't turn it over, take the air out of the ball.

882
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna run it with all these running backs, make

883
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: a couple of plays, and rely on our defense to

884
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: win games. I think the thing that has made this

885
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that's a little bit

886
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 2: of a challenge right now is that's not who Joe

887
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 2: is naturally. Joe's a gunslinger. I mean, you think about

888
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: the last time he was here. It's bombs over Bagdad,

889
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: it's everything deep, all those big plays to Amari, and

890
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: I think he's starting to find he's trying to find

891
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: his way into this new kind of philosophy. And I think,

892
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: juxtap you bring up a great point. The two tackle

893
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: situation is tough. I mean, we gave up nine pressures

894
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: just from the right side, left side last week against

895
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: Green Bay. That's tough for anybody to get through. We

896
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: got to find a way to get some some trust

897
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: between offensive line and quarterback, and all of that has

898
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 2: to kind of walk in the same direction.

899
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 7: Yeah.

900
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 9: Well, if you look at how teams view Miles Garrett, right,

901
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 9: I mean, they double team him, they shift over, you know,

902
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 9: a slot at a tight end or whatever to help

903
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 9: out and chip. But when you look at the Green

904
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 9: Bay Packers, we you know, most people say the same

905
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 9: things about Michael Parsons. And so when you're game planning

906
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 9: for a defense that really is considered one of the

907
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 9: tops in the league, you are going to try to

908
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 9: get the ball out fast. You are going to try

909
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 9: to stamp us for run games. So I think there

910
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 9: was a strategy to that offensive game plan. But Joe's

911
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 9: a veteran. You know, if there's opportunities for somebody down

912
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 9: the field that's over there, Joe's gonna take He's gonna

913
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 9: take a shot. I just also think there has to

914
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 9: be a fundamental philosophy on offense that it's not really

915
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 9: a philosophy, it's just a. It's just I'm talking. We

916
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 9: cannot turn the ball over, you know. I mean last

917
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 9: year we saw how many turnovers with Jameis Winston. Even

918
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 9: though we lit up the field we had we had,

919
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 9: we had points off turnovers that just killed us in

920
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 9: the end. So I think the offense will open up.

921
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 9: I think it will get more fluid. We have a

922
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 9: lot of young guys that are playing together for the

923
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 9: first time, and I can't tell you in an NFL

924
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 9: atmosphere how much over time that just becomes a little.

925
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: Bit better and better and better.

926
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 9: And I think Trent Dilfer always said that, you know,

927
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 9: the first four games in an NFL season are kind

928
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 9: of like a preseason.

929
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: Because you don't play in the preseason.

930
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 9: That's right, So it'd be interesting what happens as we

931
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 9: turned the corner after the first quarter of the season.

932
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing that's been a real cool thing

933
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: through three games and is like this rookie class is

934
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: coming along. Mason Graham looks really good. He had a

935
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: breakout game on Sunday. Carson Sweeshins, you're at linebacker, Yeah, yeah,

936
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: I mean he's shot out of a cannon. I mean

937
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: he's everywhere to do that as a guy who's really

938
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: going to played one year at UCLA Judkins, you're finally

939
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 2: getting a piece of him. You see what he's all about.

940
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 2: Fanins a stud. If one of the quarterbacks goes, it's

941
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: got and by and then the Samson even has played

942
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: really well at a Tennessee. So the young guys are

943
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: coming along and you bring up a good point. I

944
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: think it's important for the audience to hear that that

945
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: because of how limited, how much limited the work is

946
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: in the preseason and a seventeen game season. You can't

947
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: get buried in the first four. But give it a minute.

948
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: It's a long season here, isn't it.

949
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah?

950
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 9: And I think when you know, when I was playing,

951
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 9: one thing I always heard over and over from Brian

952
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 9: Billock and Baltimore my first head coach was when or.

953
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: The rookies going to hit the wall?

954
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

955
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 9: I mean, but that was back in two thousand and two.

956
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 9: When teams are playing eleven twelve games. College games changed

957
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 9: a lot. I mean, they're playing more games, more bowl games,

958
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 9: college football. You know, they got a playoff, So the

959
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 9: rookie wall it really.

960
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: Isn't what it used to be. And so's you know,

961
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: that's one thing.

962
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 9: But I think there's one thing that the fans are

963
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 9: very excited about, and I hear it just from you know,

964
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 9: being around my neighborhood at work, is look at this

965
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 9: rookie draft class, and it's amazing. If you look at

966
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 9: the teams that have competed with the Super Bowl with

967
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 9: a rookie quarterback, it's because the rookie class has played

968
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 9: so well. You're not allocating a lot of payroll today.

969
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: That's it.

970
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 9: So if we if we have fan and you know, Judkins, Sampson,

971
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 9: you know Sweashians for all that, then you have a

972
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 9: young quarterback room all that extra payroll that eventually when

973
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 9: cap works out for you're filling in positions that you

974
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 9: need that really you can allocate pyrol. And it's just

975
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 9: it's a great thing. And I think fans should be

976
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 9: really really excited because this is a big deal. This

977
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 9: is a really big deal for Cleveland that these rookies

978
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 9: are playing at this higher level for the future.

979
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and honestly, it's funny, like the game has

980
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: changed so much, but really you've got a draft, Well

981
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: that's that's It's just it's kind of that simple, like

982
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: sometimes just talent. Have a lot of talent works, but

983
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: if you miss on picks, you chase it and it leaves.

984
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 9: If you miss on your first round draft picks, you

985
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 9: set your team back years. So what we're finding, and

986
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 9: I know we haven't had a lot of draft picks recently,

987
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 9: but what we're finding is, I think the future. If

988
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 9: you know, I watch a game as a fan now

989
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 9: not the former as a fan, and I'm going, holy, Like,

990
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 9: this team is set up brilliantly for the next couple

991
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 9: of years. If we follow this with the next draft class,

992
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 9: fill in some pieces, you're starting to build a foundation

993
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 9: that breeds success for years to come.

994
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: It's almost a second foundation. While you're having fun watching

995
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett and Denzel Award and that that foundation from

996
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: the last time round. Right, let's do this again. You're

997
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: gonna be with us some selections the year. It's going

998
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: to be exciting. It's great to see you here in

999
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,799
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1014
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: on December twenty eighth. You toasted there, I see I did.

1015
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: Get he's back. Give he's back.

1016
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: Hey, It's all good. Someone's got to do it again,

1017
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 3: see it. Do you think he's done?

1018
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: No, three hours, he's on sixteen. Well, it depends on

1019
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: where he plays. I mean like if some places he

1020
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: might be done. That's like you can zip around. You

1021
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: can zip around and do three. It's I mean, it's

1022
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: a Tuesday. It won there's probably nobody out there, correct

1023
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 2: and you ring and rain in the morning.

1024
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, depending on the weather situation wherever he was going.

1025
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: So I didn't see today was kind of it was

1026
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: a tough thing to wrap your head around because on

1027
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: on my neck of the woods there was no sun

1028
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: all morning. Correct sank you had that too, Okay, So

1029
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: but when I when I was driving over here and

1030
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: I got what it would be about halfway, all of

1031
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: a sudden the sun came out, and so like when

1032
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: I went to get in my car, I thought it

1033
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: looked like it was like fifty six degrees. It was

1034
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: actually like eighty two. Yeah, and then it's really warm

1035
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: over a year, it's really humid. We needed it though.

1036
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: It was uh well tomorrow yeah, I think tonight and

1037
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: tomorrow so and then no rain again for like two weeks.

1038
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I were talking. I can't rem if

1039
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: it was off air on. But like, how many leaves

1040
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: are down already? Like this is for this time of year.

1041
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: It's a lot already.

1042
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the wife and I had a conversation. She's like, hey,

1043
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: before you go to London, you're probably gonna need to

1044
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: do leaves, and I'm like, I shouldn't have to do

1045
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: leaves till I get back. Yeah, but then I looked

1046
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 3: at my front yard this morning pulling out of the driveway,

1047
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 3: and I'm.

1048
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: Like, I'm gonna have to do to do leaves, buddy. Yeah,

1049
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: I'm not ready for that. Put that on your list.

1050
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: I hate that that as much as anything. That's that's

1051
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: the one thing I hate about home ownership.

1052
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: The blowing part of the leaves or this. Yeah.

1053
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I have a backpack. Yeah, I got a

1054
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: backpack blower. So it's pretty nice. And if you can

1055
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: zip through it. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Like

1056
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: I go to the inlaws house and they have one

1057
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 3: of those giant fans that's.

1058
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, yeah that, oh god, yeah, living that.

1059
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: I can do that, but zip through. Yeah.

1060
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: That's the problem is while I have multiple trees losing leaves,

1061
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: the two main ones, the two giant ones. Yeah, they

1062
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: literally lose their leaves like during the first snowfall into

1063
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: some Yeah, that's that's how.

1064
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: And then I'm screwed. And then you're done. You cooked.

1065
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: You get those guys in the spring, Yeah, exactly, all right,

1066
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: you're ready. One thought, let's around the league, let's do it.

1067
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 9: Hi.

1068
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: One thought, let's go g man cheeze the g Man administered.

1069
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: We've talked through this in in the last segment. Look

1070
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: how excited he is. All when do you guys play.

1071
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 4: A couple of weeks, A couple of weeks, A couple

1072
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: of weeks, two weeks. We played Brexville this week, and

1073
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: then it's uh, then it's on to Hudson.

1074
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think, uh, the NBC's team plays

1075
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: him in two weeks too, so I think we.

1076
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: Get the we get the double dips, so all the

1077
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: full week of Rivalry week it'll be in all at war.

1078
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I I think it probably is a

1079
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, we an't like you guys. I know that.

1080
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: I think we're mostly indifferent. But I don't know that exactly.

1081
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: But it was just too easy. I don't know that

1082
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: it's I just thought you just put it on a tee.

1083
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: I think anybody you play every year now where it's

1084
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 2: competitive would be rivalry. Yeah, I mean I think that's

1085
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: what it is. You know, there's some that are because

1086
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: some of the ones that would be geographically would make

1087
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: sense maybe have fallen off. So I think consistently competitive

1088
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: play every year rivalry, that's kind of where we're at. Yeah,

1089
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: not everything can be Masla McKinley.

1090
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 4: All right, here we go. We'll start with the early

1091
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 4: window one PM, and we start with a shutout of

1092
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 4: the some would say gutless Atlanta Falcons. The Carolina Panthers

1093
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 4: make a statement to get their first win of the

1094
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: season in an NFC South battle. Panthers thirty Falcons nothing.

1095
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: Bo Bishop one thought.

1096
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: I just I think it's the most stupifying result of

1097
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: the weekend by far. I don't know that it's particularly close.

1098
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: It's it's not that Carolina won, it's that they dominated.

1099
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: You got to remember the previous week Atlanta went to

1100
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: Minnesota and that defense and won, So how do you

1101
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 2: back that up with this? They were completely inept. Pennix

1102
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: was eighteen to thirty six in this game, one hundred

1103
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: and seventy two yards two picks, couldn't really get anything

1104
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,959
Speaker 2: going through the air. I don't know if it means

1105
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 2: like everyone wants to say, Oh Carolina, they're coming. Bryce

1106
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: Young went sixteen to twenty four for one hundred and

1107
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: twenty one. I don't know if they're doing anything, but

1108
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: Pennix turned it over a couple of times and they

1109
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: chased him the second half. This to me was the

1110
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: most shocking result of the weekend by far.

1111
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: It didn't the Falcons cut their kicker because they had

1112
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 3: a guy come in and having laster week one and

1113
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 3: then he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

1114
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 2: On Sunday, Yeah, they cut Kim. He missed two kicks.

1115
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: I think I think he missed two kicks over two

1116
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: on kicks. Yes, you got it, Parker Roma missed two kicks.

1117
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: I said on Friday when we did the scores. This

1118
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: is a game where the Falcons come back to Earth

1119
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 3: and they show us that they're gutless, and here we go.

1120
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: They fired their wide receiver coach.

1121
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 2: Which is so odd, right, Yeah, like a wide receiver.

1122
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: Here you go, here's the TG sacrificial lamb. Yeah, strange,

1123
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: not going anywhere from.

1124
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: The NFC South to the AFC South. The Houston Texans

1125
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: fall to oh to three as the Jacksonville Jaguars beat

1126
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 4: them seventeen to ten.

1127
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: Give back.

1128
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 3: One thought, well, I'm not pleased about this from a

1129
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: draft picks standpoint. I need these bums to start losing.

1130
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: And they didn't know CJ. Stroud might be beyond fixable.

1131
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it wasn't on the Houston OC that got

1132
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 3: jettisoned in the off season. Eh, So something's not right there.

1133
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 2: No, it's not. I actually this was not that these

1134
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 2: guys are the end all. But I asked directly the

1135
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: PFF guy this morning that I had on and I

1136
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: was like, I'm like, what's going on here? What's going

1137
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: on with CJ? I mean he lights lights of rolling

1138
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: fires a rookie and they seem lost, and he's like,

1139
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 2: they are terrible at protecting. They have nothing to fear

1140
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: in a pass catch outside of Nico Collins and they

1141
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: can't run it. So when you can't do those things,

1142
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 2: the quarterback presses and that's what he sees with CJ.

1143
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: So his view was that everything else CD is not

1144
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: playing great, but there's not much to work with there.

1145
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: I think our guy.

1146
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: Chubb is is there's some good moments, but yeah, not

1147
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: so great.

1148
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: But three catastrophic injuries mixing, when's Mixing coming back? Is

1149
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: he coming back? Why did they not draft one? I

1150
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: mean they got enough pass catcher wise last year. I

1151
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: mean a couple of years ago when when they were

1152
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: really humming, when Nico was going and they had Tank Dell,

1153
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 2: like they had a couple of guys who could scay

1154
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: a little bit. They just don't have anything right now

1155
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: outside an ECO. So yeah, it's a mess for them.

1156
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: And they play Tennessee this week. I mean, that's a

1157
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 2: loser go home in a big way for everybody.

1158
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: Correct. And meanwhile, I will say, on the other side,

1159
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 3: Jacksonville finally doing what Jacksonville is supposed to be doing

1160
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: with the talent that they have. Yeah, when football gets.

1161
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing all right. Yeah, on to.

1162
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 4: Minnesota.

1163
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

1164
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 4: Vikings top the Joe Burrow List, Bengals forty eight to ten,

1165
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 4: Isaiah Rodgers generational performance, pair of touchdowns on defense. Bo

1166
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: Bishop One.

1167
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: Thought, Yeah, I think I just think Cincinnati they're very

1168
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: lucky they won the first two games, but honestly, it

1169
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: maybe will prevent them from doing what they should be

1170
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: doing this year, because it's hard to view this season

1171
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: other than anything other than lost for them at this point.

1172
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: I keep hearing whispers that it's the way they're phrasing it,

1173
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: not from anybody from the team, but people who cover

1174
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: the team. It's like, well, if Joe comes back, it'll

1175
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 2: be mid December, not he's coming back. So that you

1176
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: mentioned that last week, Gibba and I kind of track

1177
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: that down, and it does seem like more and more

1178
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: as if rather than when on Joe. So that is

1179
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: a big thing to deal with there on that side

1180
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: of it. They any Bengals cannot run the football at all,

1181
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: and they're not great at pass protection. So when you're

1182
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: not great at pass protection, you can't run the football,

1183
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: and you don't have an elite processor in Joe Burrow,

1184
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: this is what you get.

1185
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm looking it up here. Joe Burrow career stats.

1186
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: How many games has Joe Burrow played? How many years

1187
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 3: correct year?

1188
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: Six he was he was a nineteen, he was at

1189
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: nineteen at LSU, so twenty three five, six seas this

1190
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 2: is six season. Yeah, he's missed three. He's missed parts

1191
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 2: of three seasons. Three of his six seasons he's missed

1192
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: big chunks. So I would say.

1193
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 3: He's played ten games sixteen, sixteen, ten, seventeen two.

1194
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so two parts of two parts of three seasons

1195
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: he's missed. And when he's not there, they're not good.

1196
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: Just that simple, I mean, And at some point it's

1197
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 3: it's early and it's a fluke injury that happened, But

1198
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 3: how many times we're gonna have Fluke injuries with him.

1199
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too late now. They already gave him the

1200
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: money and they're not. I mean, it is what it is.

1201
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, they just they need to protect him and

1202
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: they've tried. I mean they've drafted offensive linemen, they just

1203
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: can't get him to hit. They've drafted running backs, they

1204
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: can't get that. I mean, it's just, yeah, it's weird.

1205
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: They're a really odd team because they were all chips

1206
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: in and now I don't now. Just kind of feels

1207
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: like a lost year for them.

1208
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: Out to Foxborough as the Steelers snatch victory from the

1209
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: attempted jaws of defeat, I think as the Steelers beat

1210
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 4: the Patriots pair of touchdown pass for Aaron Rodgers twenty

1211
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 4: one to fourteen, give it one thought.

1212
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 3: I think the Patriots are going to give every team

1213
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: a battle week in and week out. Mike Vrabel style

1214
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: back when he was with Tennessee. I don't think the

1215
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: Steelers offense is anything to write home about. And I'm

1216
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: hoping in a few weeks I get my first win

1217
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: at that stupid stadium. I think there's a chance because

1218
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: our defense can totally take out that offense.

1219
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not doing a whole lot offensively. I'll take

1220
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 2: the other side of it. I do think that despite

1221
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: a one to two record, Drake May is showing you

1222
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: some things and he played really well. He was twenty

1223
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: eight to thirty seven, two sixty eight, two touchdowns at

1224
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: a pick he ran for another forty five. They don't

1225
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: even have I mean, Kaishawn Butte is probably their best

1226
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: threat down the field, but they don't use him much.

1227
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: Here are his first he were his top three targets

1228
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: in the loss on to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday,

1229
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: Hunter Henry had eleven targets tight end, of course, Ramandre

1230
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: Stevenson had three, Austin Hooper had three. We had Hoop

1231
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 2: here a couple of years ago, and he was on

1232
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: the down side of it. So like that, ain't it?

1233
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: And from a weapons standpoint for him at all? So

1234
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: I like him.

1235
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: Didn't Stevenson have like a fumble or two in that game?

1236
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: Like deep in in uh in Pittsburgh territory.

1237
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: If I'm not they correct, New England could have won

1238
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 2: that game. Pretty it was there for him. Yeah.

1239
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 4: To the NFC Championship Game rematch, the Philadelphia Eagles defeat

1240
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: the La Rams thirty three to twenty six in a

1241
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 4: game where the Eagles trailed nineteen to seven at halftime

1242
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 4: and they had thrown negative seven passing yards at the break.

1243
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 4: But then they remember they have Aj Brown and DeVante Smith. Yeah,

1244
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 4: still got some good receivers. Bo Bishop one.

1245
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: Thought, Yeah, LA was the better team. I watched this one.

1246
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: LA was the better team. They really dominated for much

1247
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: of it. They have two block kicks. Philly gets two

1248
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: block kicks on field goals, one that would have won it,

1249
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: that allows for them to cover another one on the

1250
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: drive previous to that. So the two block kicks kind

1251
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: of changed everything. I don't know why LA took the

1252
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: foot off the gas, but it did leave me feeling

1253
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: more confident about what LA can be. Because this game

1254
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: was in Philly, I think the Rams are going to

1255
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: be just fine, and Philly finds ways to win. But

1256
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: they're not hit. And what's crazy about them is they're

1257
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: doing so without hitting on all cylinders. Yet offensively, they

1258
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: are still yet to click offensively. I would agree with that.

1259
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: In the first half of the game, the Rams out

1260
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: gained Philly to twelve to thirty three. Yeah, like you

1261
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: just gotta finish, Yeah, finish the game man, And I

1262
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: mean we saw it all across the league. With seven

1263
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 3: games coming down to the final a few possessions, you

1264
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: just gotta be able to finish, and they did not.

1265
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: But I can tell you that Sean McVay will have

1266
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 3: them ready going forward.

1267
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1268
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 4: Another game that came down to the final drive, the

1269
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Buccaneers looked like they might drop it after

1270
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 4: the Jets blocked a field goal and Blockfest Week three

1271
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 4: of the NFL. Will McDonald returns over a touchdown, but

1272
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 4: Bake leads them down the field. Buccaneers win it twenty

1273
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: nine to twenty seven. Gibba one thought, I'll go Jets.

1274
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 3: I'll go on the Jets side of this. I don't

1275
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 3: know what they are, but they were down twenty three

1276
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: to six. I think to start the fourth quarter, Tarrod

1277
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 3: Taylor brings them back. I don't know what they are,

1278
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 3: but I feel like they're in every game every week,

1279
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: like down to the final five minutes of the game. There,

1280
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 3: they are frisky that AFC East might end up being

1281
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 3: one of the best divisions in the NFL before it's

1282
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: all said and done, because there's not an easy one

1283
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 3: with the Jets. There's not an easy one with Rabel

1284
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 3: in New England. No, maybe Miami, but they still have

1285
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 3: enough talent to win. And you know what Buffalo is.

1286
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think the Jets, they really are taking

1287
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: on the personality their head coach and they're kind of

1288
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: their never say die situation that they have there. Tampa

1289
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: is three and oh three wins are all comeback wins.

1290
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: Bake made two throws that Ameca Buca that were just

1291
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: otherworldly and I see Mike Evans is gonna be down

1292
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: for a while like Mex Mex a number one receiver.

1293
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: Now he had a one handed one that Bake had

1294
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: a funny line about never disrepect my throes again and

1295
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 2: not get two hands on it. But the one that

1296
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: was even maybe better was Bake through a rocket, absolute rocket,

1297
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: and he was and a Mecca was running away from

1298
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: it and somehow stabbed it out of the air with

1299
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: both hands to bring it down and get the first down.

1300
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: It was just a remarkable play out of him. So yeah,

1301
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: he is a super duperstar and he's off to an

1302
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: incredible start to his career and it's only going to

1303
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: get better. And now more food for him now that

1304
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: Mike's down for a little while.

1305
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 3: A Mecca Abuca is the guy that every year we

1306
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 3: watched someone get drafted, We're like, just don't go there.

1307
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 3: It's usually someone in our division like Kyle Hamilton and

1308
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 3: you know, a couple other players throughout the t Higgins

1309
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: like don't go to Cincinnati. Come on, this guy just

1310
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: has fallen into Tampa Bay's life. I remember, you know,

1311
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 3: in the preseason our award predictions, Yeah it was I

1312
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: went with Travion over him. Yeah, I'm dumb.

1313
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: Book is the real deal. He is. What's crazy. He

1314
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: was never the featured receiver at Ohio snever, so he's

1315
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: behind Marv. He was my two years receiver the whole time.

1316
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: He was so clean, such a clean route runner. He's

1317
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: behind Marv for two years and behind Jeremiah Smith last year,

1318
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: so he's never even was the number one receiver at

1319
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Crazy thing about all those wide receivers from

1320
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: Ohio State because they're all balling out except for Marv.

1321
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: Most people would have said, yeah, most people would have

1322
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 2: said Marv was the surest thing of all of them.

1323
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: And he's the one who's struggling the most. Why Why

1324
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 2: is he struggling. My opinion of that is that Kyler

1325
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: is a kind of a street ball backyard quarterback and

1326
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 2: Marv's a precision I'll be where I'm supposed to be,

1327
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: where I'm supposed to be, and they're just not meshing.

1328
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: Petsy Good know he's the one trying to make it work,

1329
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 2: but it's yeah, it ain't. It ain't working at all. No,

1330
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: it also bugged me he got really muscular Marvin did

1331
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: this offseason. That bugged me. I don't you don't need

1332
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: to be that muscular to play wide receiver.

1333
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: To the other matchup in the AFC South, as we

1334
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 4: all expect, did Daniel Jones three to zero and third

1335
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 4: in the league in passing yards through three weeks. As

1336
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 4: the Colts beat the Titans forty one to twenty. Both

1337
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 4: Bishop Onint thought, well, I mean.

1338
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones was high on our list here this offseason

1339
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: because of the fit that he would have been in

1340
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: this offense. This offense isn't that dissimilar that the Colts

1341
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: are running. They have a ton of weapons. Let's remember

1342
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: this guy's got some pedigree. He was the sixth pick

1343
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 2: in the draft. He was a Pro Bowl player for

1344
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: the Giants, until it all went south. But to me,

1345
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: it looks like the Colts have a quarterback for at

1346
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: least the next five years. With him, they don't have

1347
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: to worry about any don't have to worry about that

1348
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 2: for a while, and I think they can be competitive

1349
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: in that division. So heck of a start to them.

1350
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: And they've been the best offensive football full stop. They have.

1351
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: They punted once in three games.

1352
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 3: I think the key to his success is Jonathan Taylor

1353
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: staying healthy. Yeah, Taylor had a monster day.

1354
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: He did.

1355
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 3: They're just it's a combination of playing teams that you

1356
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: can beat, that you should beat, and they are and

1357
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: it's a combination of they have an offense.

1358
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: Now.

1359
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 3: The biggest question now is where's Anthony Richardson end up,

1360
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 3: because it's not going to be with where he is currently.

1361
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 4: No rounding out. The early window will go a little

1362
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 4: rapid fire from here on out. The Commanders bounce back.

1363
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: They beat the Raiders forty one to twenty four. Marcus

1364
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 4: Mariota started this game out in Landover, Maryland.

1365
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: Gibbe.

1366
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 4: One thought, I.

1367
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know like this game. That doesn't even

1368
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: look entertaining to me, And yet the comedies are two

1369
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: and one. Yeah, I don't know why ya played well. Yeah,

1370
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of that. I mean,

1371
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 3: like Jane Daniel struggled the week before, Marcus Mariota not struggling.

1372
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: I don't know where that is.

1373
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything I'd liked from Jane Daniels so

1374
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 3: far this year. It's not to say that he won't

1375
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: be fine, but I keep saying next to CJ. Stroud,

1376
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 3: it's concerning when I watch him play. Yeah, I'm going

1377
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 3: to tell you this to be a Kyle hot take

1378
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,959
Speaker 3: and we'll say that we'll save that the I don't

1379
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 3: I never understood why.

1380
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: I understand from a business why the oak why the

1381
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders took dashtroing genty really marketable. They needed

1382
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: to win right now because they're trying to win fans

1383
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: in that market. They're sick and tired of people coming in,

1384
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: so they needed a kind of a bell cow guy.

1385
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: It's been a massive struggle for him there the yards

1386
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: per carrier down. He doesn't look explosive, he doesn't look dangerous.

1387
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: I look at Pete and I go, what are you

1388
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: doing in this mix? I mean, this roster is a mess,

1389
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 2: and that's what it looks like to me, it just

1390
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: looks like a really mess. I don't have any identitors. No,

1391
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: they don't till.

1392
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 4: Late when do we go. Chargers improve themselves to three

1393
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 4: and oh, justin Herbert and the boys roll in. They

1394
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 4: beat the Broncos twenty three to twenty.

1395
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 2: Bo Bishop One thought, Yeah, I think that they are

1396
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: really close. I just need to see it for a

1397
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: few more weeks. I think they're really close to entering

1398
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 2: into that Buffalo Baltimore world. And now I'm gonna give

1399
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: you something that's going to make you guys drop to

1400
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 2: your knees when it comes to the UH Chargers, because

1401
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what. I think they're going to

1402
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: be favored in their next ten This is their schedule.

1403
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: Who did we take ready for this?

1404
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 3: Last year? We were like so and so's got was

1405
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 3: it Denver?

1406
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 7: Last?

1407
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: I think it was Denver that I was in this spot.

1408
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 2: So here it is at Giants, Commis at home at Dolphins,

1409
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: Colts at home, Vikings at home at Tennessee Steelers at

1410
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: home at Jacksonville Raiders. That's their next nine games. They're

1411
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: gonna be favored in all nine of those. Maybe washing No,

1412
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 2: because it's in LA. I think they're gona be favored

1413
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: in all nine games, all of them. And the reality

1414
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: is they're probably going to be something in the vicinity

1415
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: of eleven and one or ten and two by the

1416
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: time they get to they host the Eagles, and then

1417
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: they're at Kansas City back to back in early December.

1418
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: Then it's Cowboys, Texans, Broncos to finish. This team screams

1419
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: thirteen and four. I mean it just screams it.

1420
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 3: As good as their offense is for the Chargers, the

1421
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 3: defense might be better. Yeah, it's their Their defense is

1422
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 3: legit and that's exactly how Jim Harbaugh wants to do

1423
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 3: it and how to play. Chargers play the Bills tomorrow.

1424
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: Who would you take? I want to see. That's why

1425
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: I said I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready yet

1426
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 2: because I need to see one more out of the Chargers.

1427
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: I get to see a couple more games out of

1428
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: them to see how they handle prosperity. Right now, we

1429
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: take the Bills because I think the Bills. Bills are experienced,

1430
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: they win those games. Chargers aren't used to being in

1431
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: those spots. But they're off to a nice start and

1432
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: they're two and zero in the division right division, Kansas

1433
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: City No. Three and oh, dude, they get the Raiders

1434
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: too in the division. They're already three and oh in

1435
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: the division.

1436
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 3: I think Denver's had some hard luck losses. I think

1437
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: Denver's better than what we're seeing right now too.

1438
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean it was competitive game, but yeah, to the

1439
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest we go. Sam Darnold Seahawks forty four. Tyler

1440
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 2: Shuck makes his NFL debut as the Saints score thirteen.

1441
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 4: Give a one thought.

1442
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 3: I really like the I almost called them the Mariners.

1443
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 3: I like the Seahawks head coach McDonald.

1444
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1445
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really good and he's got a nice little

1446
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 3: operation going on over there now. Unfortunately, everybody in that

1447
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 3: division has a winning record, and the forty nine ers

1448
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 3: are undefeated with twenty guys on IR. But they're fun

1449
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 3: and I enjoy watching them. And I don't know, I

1450
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 3: think there's something special about that Seattle team. They can

1451
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 3: play defense and they could put points on you when

1452
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 3: they need to. Donald's look good too. I mean, that's

1453
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 3: that's paying dividends. So I can't believe I know that

1454
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 3: this guy has just a couple.

1455
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,560
Speaker 2: Of little guests. The stats in the middle of this

1456
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: perfect Spencer Ratler moved to oh to nine as a

1457
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 2: starting quarterback in the NFL. What is the most consecutive

1458
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: games any quarterback has gone without a win to start

1459
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: their NFL career? Thirteen?

1460
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 4: One of the guys, you know, Deshaun Kaiser.

1461
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: God, look at the brain, big brain on Wadsworth g

1462
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: Man just dropping that. Deshaun Kaiser went on fifteen. Never

1463
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: started again, by the way, poor kid. He was done,

1464
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: done wrong. There's one other. There's one other. Chris Wankie

1465
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 2: started Owen fifteen Buccaneers. I'm not sure if the Panthers

1466
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 2: drafted him, but I'm not. It was a five oh

1467
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: six something like that when he finally got the shot.

1468
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 2: But he went, he went fifteen. He did. Yeah, one

1469
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: of the heisman in National Championship at Florida. I covered

1470
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 2: him the end of him at Florida State. He was

1471
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 2: twenty seven years old, so he was dating. He was

1472
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: like Chad Powers. He was dating. He could date like

1473
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: sorority girls. And then he was dating the main news

1474
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: anchor at the television station I worked at, who was

1475
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: like in her late thirties like that. It was quite

1476
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: the life that he had. Quite yeah, all right, I'm

1477
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: sure it would have worked now in a social media

1478
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: era for a twenty nine year old guy playing college quarterback.

1479
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: But it did. Then it's nil. Yeah, really, I don't know.

1480
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1481
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 4: Out to Soldier Field as Tom Brady got to scout

1482
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 4: his raiders next opponent, the Chicago Bears, who beat the

1483
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 4: Cowboys thirty one to fourteen. Bo Bishop one thought.

1484
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: Bears turned a corner. Now a lot of people are

1485
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: gonna do it against the Cowboys. The injury to CD

1486
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 2: makes it only even worse for them. But Caleb looked

1487
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 2: really good and he threw the ball down the field

1488
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 2: and their touchdowns were big time air Nathan pulled it

1489
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: up yesterday. It was like one hundred and quarterback ringing

1490
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 2: like one hundred and forty against pressure. They look good.

1491
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 2: They look really good.

1492
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 3: Offensively, Dallas is in trouble. CD's gonna, I mean, Jerry's

1493
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 3: saying potentially IR. The team's saying not IR. It's a

1494
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 3: high ankle sprain, buddy. You're down three to four weeks

1495
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 3: at least, and then they lose their starting guard.

1496
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 2: They just put him on IR today. Yeah.

1497
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 4: Tyler Booker, the guy they drafted in the first round

1498
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 4: this year.

1499
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's down. Do you guys know what

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Speaker 2: Sunday is?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I do Alabama?

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01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 2: Oh Sunday Sunday. The Dallas Cowboys host the green Bay

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01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: Packers and Micah Parsons back in Jerry world.

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01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 4: Not appropriate to give him a tribute.

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01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 2: Jerry's Jerry no tribute, But like, holy cow, dude, Michael

1507
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 2: could have six sacks.

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01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 3: That could be a that could be a boat rowing.

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01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 3: I mean green Bay they're going to be angry after

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01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: what happened here. I mean they that defense, Dallas's defense.

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01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: Is not good. If CD doesn't play, I mean it's

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01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 2: gonna be yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Final game of the four o'clock window. The Niners scrape

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 4: one out against the Cardinals, sixteen to fifteen, totally normal

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01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 4: football score. Give me one thought.

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01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how the forty nine ers do it.

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 2: I said it earlier.

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01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 3: They're three and l I don't Mac Jones, Yeah, Pedro

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01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 3: has got to be loving it.

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01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: He's twenty seven to forty one to eighty four, a

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01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: touchdown and a pick. Mac Jones, I don't understand Kyle.

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 2: He's a quarterback. Whisper dude. Him and O'Connell like they

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01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: do whoever it is. They play well, almost doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: Sunday Night football, the Kansas City Chiefs get their first

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01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 4: win of the year over the New York Giants twenty

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01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 4: two to nine, another totally normal football score. Bo Bishop

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Speaker 4: one thought.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City is just in survival mode right now. They

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01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: don't have their top two receivers. Their top two receivers

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01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,520
Speaker 2: are actually cut by the Patriots, who have no receivers.

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01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 2: Ju shoots for the other guy. They just have no

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01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 2: they have no weapons, no talent. It's just so they're

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: just trying to find ways to cobble together wins. They

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01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 2: get Baltimore this week, they get two more weeks before

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01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: che Rice comes back. They do get seems like they

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01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: could be getting Xavier Worthy back this week, which would

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01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: help them a great deal. But they're just going to

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 2: try to keep their head above water. The Giants are

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: a mess, and that's why they made the change of

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Speaker 2: quarterback today.

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01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: I did not wait up all day now for this one.

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01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 3: The best play of the night was Andy Reid bumping

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01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 3: Travis Kelce. You want some of me, I'll take you

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01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 3: down right here on National TV. Listen up, Swifty, I'll

1545
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: take you down, Big Andy, I big Andy, I gotta ask,

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01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 3: I like how they.

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01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: Do that though, So I think that and then they

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01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: hug after it's fine, like they've been around to get

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01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: each other for so long. Is Travis invested in this, Yeah,

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01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: I think he is. I think he's really invested. I

1551
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: think he wants to go out on top. I think

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01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: he wants one more title, and he's trying to trying

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01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: to get He's lost a step obviously, I mean that's clearly,

1554
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: abundantly clear. But but yeah, I still think that they

1555
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: can provide some things, and they just need those weapons

1556
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: back because they just they have not for all of

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01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 2: the fact that they won a Super Bowl after Tyreek,

1558
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: what's kind of crazy about it, They really have failed

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01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 2: at drafting weapons for Mahomes during that time. Now, Josh

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01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: Simmons looks like a stud, the kid out of Ohio

1561
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 2: State this year at left tackle, he looks like a stud.

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 2: But they just haven't hit on weapons for him. And

1563
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: we're drafted a lot of them.

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01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 3: We're all just like I've seen power rankings where they're

1565
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 3: still in the top ten, their eighth and their ninth,

1566
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 3: and yeah, it's simply because of Mahomes. But when was

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01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 3: the last time Mahomes had like a three and fifty

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01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 3: yard game and three or four.

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01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 4: Touchdowns his offensive course, it's been a while they've reduced

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01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 4: him to Mac Jones.

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. What's what's happened to it all? We said,

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01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: all right, there you go. One thought around the National

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Speaker 2: Playing The Browns High School Game of the Week presented

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Speaker 2: by Ohio Cat showcases top matchups, rising stars across Northeast Ohio.

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01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: Each week, fans vote for the game they want to see,

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Speaker 2: and the winning team earns three thousand dollars in funding,

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01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 2: plus spotlight coverage on the Browns social media. Have we

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01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 2: picked the games for this week?

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01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 4: You have a game already, yes, Colin, I think.

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01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 3: It's a field dedication game. Oh so that's why, all right,

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01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 3: I believe.

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01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: So what is it?

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 4: What is it g Man, It's Rhodes versus Colin Wood.

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01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 2: There you go very good.

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01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 3: Yes, Uh, there are a couple of weeks that we

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01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 3: don't get to vote because it's field dedication. Yeah, we

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01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 3: did Brooklyn week one, and okay, I think this one here,

1594
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 3: that's very cool. It's very cool.

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01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 2: You have a you have a task for us.

1596
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,759
Speaker 3: Give I do rank the remaining undefeated teams from best

1597
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 3: to worst. There's six of them, Okay, Buffalo, Indianapolis, Los Angeles,

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01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 3: the Chargers, Philly, Tampa, San Francisco. Whould you put number six?

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01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: San Francisco? I agree, it's just I mean, now the

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01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 2: Bosa injury, they're playing with aut party, not to suggest

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01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 2: that they I think they're going to be there all year.

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01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 2: I think they'll make the postseason because it's what Kyle

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01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: does most times. But it's just a ton of injuries

1604
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 2: and they're kind of getting by smoking mirrors each week.

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01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 2: Speaks to his ability to coach it. But I would

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01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: have him six on that list as well. Number five.

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01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: I went Tampa here, I went Colts. Okay, yeah, I

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01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: think Tampa is playing with fire every week. Every week

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01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: they are. Bak's been really clutched down the stretch. He

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01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: hasn't always played great, but he's played great down the stretch.

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01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 2: He's been able to put some drives together to go

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01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: win games or three and oher, which matters most. But

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01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 2: I do think they have some wartz and I think

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01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 2: the Mike Evans injury, well, Mike isn't what he used

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01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 2: to be. That's gonna hurt him. In the red zone.

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01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: They hit him on a slant for one of the

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01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 2: touchdowns last week. Now he's out a little bit of time.

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01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: They're waiting on God when it's a lot on a mecca.

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01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 3: So I got Tampa fied so and I put Indy

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01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 3: five because at some point Daniel Jones shows up to

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01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 3: be Daniel Jones.

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 2: It's the same thing.

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01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 3: And Sam Donald clearly has defied everything and come back,

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01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 3: and yeah, what he's done is remarkable, and even this

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01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: year he's off to a great start. But there were

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01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 3: moments at the end of the year last year, even

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01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 3: when they went six, fifteen and two, that Sam Donald

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01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 3: became Sam Darnald again. Yep, And I feel that's how

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones and I think Bake is grown up. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I would give the advantage to him, but I

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01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 3: do agree with you on Tampa. I think they're playing

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Speaker 3: with it's a lot. Yeah, So I have the Colts four.

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Speaker 2: Number three. I think the Colts, I mean if it

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01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 2: does feel like the bubble will burst at some point,

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01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 2: but what they're doing offensively every single week is pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 2: Number three for me, I got Philly three.

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01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 3: I have Philly three as well, little current ball for yeah,

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01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 3: golf boy, we don't need you, that's right.

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01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 2: I think Philly's clunky on offense. They're a little clunky

1640
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: right now on offense. They're winning, that's what matters most.

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01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: They were very fortunate to win against the game against

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01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: the Rams. The Rams outplayed them, were the better team

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01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 2: in Philly. They survived in advance. You tip your hat

1644
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: for that. That's what champions do. But right now they

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01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 2: aren't what I think they need to be offensively to

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01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: be on the on the level of the team that's

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01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 2: coming at the top.

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Speaker 3: I feel like they're last year's Chiefs, could be. They're

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01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 3: just good enough to win right now right now. It's

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01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 3: not to say they won't be better, yeah, but I

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01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 3: feel like they're good enough to win right now and

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01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 3: then come playoff time, eh, we'll see. I mean defensively,

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01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 3: I think there's some questions. Yeah, and I mean offensively.

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01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 3: I just don't understand why they can't get it going.

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01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: It's early, it's clunky. Yeah, Number two Chargers here, so

1656
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 2: we're gonna go chalk on this. Yeah, I talked about it, guys.

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01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 2: I mean their schedule. I mean, if Jayden isn't there

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01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: for Washington, you get Mariota at Giants, so that I

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01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 2: mean this week they get there at the Giants, but

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01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 2: it's Jackson Dart rookie quarterback, then potentially Marcus Mariota, then

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01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: the Dolphins Colts at home Vikings. Who knows what they'll be.

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna be great defensively, but who knows what they're

1663
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: gonna be offensively at that point? At Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville Raiders.

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01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: That's their next nine games. Like they're gonna be eleven

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01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: and one, ten and two at worst.

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01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 3: I went back and forth between Philly at two sure,

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01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 3: and the Chargers at two. The Chargers have had a

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01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 3: lot of injuries. I'm still little questioning on the wide

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01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 3: receiver corps for LA and if they can stay healthy,

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01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 3: especially I mean Keenan Allen's.

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Speaker 2: Making big place for you. Still and I feel like, really, is.

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01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen able to sustain this for seventeen weeks? Not

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01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 3: really sure. Again, they've lost a lot, but they've still

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01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 3: managed to do okay, And I think nause is kind

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01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 3: of a big loss. I know it's you know, g

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01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 3: Man's favorite player, you know, I just but they're the

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01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 3: second best team right now. I think they're playing as

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01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 3: well as anybody in Herbert's thriving in that sense he is.

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01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 2: And they're not even running it well. They drafted a

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01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: Mario and Hampton in the first round. He's averaging less

1681
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 2: than four yards of carry. They're not even running it yet.

1682
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: They will though, they'll get those things going. Yeah, so

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01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo's won. Yeah, I think, I mean Buffalo is right

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01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: now is the best team in football. I haven't should

1685
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 2: look and see what.

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 3: I don't care how much they maybe quote struggled last week.

1687
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 3: It's a Thursday night game, quick turnaround. I've been saying it,

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01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 3: it happens, and they still hung thirty one of them.

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01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna be. It's gonna be the two teams we're

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01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: talking about are gonna be the battle for the one seed.

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01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: Because this is Buffalo's next This is their next few games,

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01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:23,480
Speaker 2: Saints at home, Patriots at home at Falcons at Panthers,

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01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: So they're gonna be seven and oh, seven and oh.

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01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: Going to Kansas City in early November. Then it's at Dolphins,

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01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: Bucks at home at Texans at Steelers, Bengals at home

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01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 2: at Patriots at Brown's, Eagles at home, Jets. That screams

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01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 2: fourteen and three for Buffalo. Yeah yeah, So those are

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01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 2: those two teams are gonna be battling for that top spot,

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01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 2: is the way it looks right now. Junior Browns Backers

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Speaker 2: Experience Package Day for the Ultimate Game Day. Here's Greg

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Speaker 2: Newsom at the podium.

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Speaker 8: How's it going, Greg?

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Speaker 7: Doing good? Knowing good? My boys is gone?

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Speaker 2: Uhh Hey.

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Speaker 8: We talked so much about interceptions and getting takeaways. What

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Speaker 8: was going through your head when you saw Grant finally

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Speaker 8: get that one that sets you up for the time touchdown.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my first thing was where did he come from?

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Speaker 7: Like as I was like, where did you come from?

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Speaker 7: But now it was super cool. I turned around seeing

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Speaker 7: him on the ground with the ball and it was

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Speaker 7: just good for us being able to flip momentum and

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Speaker 7: he came through and we needed him the most.

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Speaker 8: And on that block field goal, first of all, what

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Speaker 8: did you see? And did you think you're gonna have

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Speaker 8: a scooping score?

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Speaker 7: I did before the play Malik and Rocket and all

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Speaker 7: of them was like, hey, bro, when we blocked this,

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Speaker 7: go score, I was like, I got you. So I

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Speaker 7: knew he was gonna block it, but the ball took

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Speaker 7: I forgot. Coach said, the ball is a certain shape.

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Speaker 7: Forgot it some weird shape and it took a bad

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Speaker 7: balance on me. I thought I was gonna score, but

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Speaker 7: I just wanted Drada to win it for so I

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Speaker 7: helped him out there a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha. Thanks?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Greg, I was gonna ask like, as as that

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Speaker 10: play is transpiring, what was your view because in real time,

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Speaker 10: like there was almost some confusion. I think people initially

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Speaker 10: thought Denzel had kind of dove in there and blocked

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Speaker 10: it before everyone realized it was Shelby.

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Speaker 7: So what what did you see? Yeah, I've seen first.

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Speaker 7: I just seen in the pocket just collapse. I think

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Speaker 7: our field goal block the entire game, like we could

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Speaker 7: have blocked like three kicks. Just the pressure, the pressure

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Speaker 7: that they're generating inside as unbelievable. Ward actually got a

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Speaker 7: piece of it too. He tipped a little bit off

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Speaker 7: off his finger. And then when I seen the ball

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Speaker 7: get hit, I was just trying to do my best

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Speaker 7: to get to it and then just.

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Speaker 10: I mean on game it felt like watching the D

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Speaker 10: line that those guys were creating pressure from every which

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Speaker 10: way and even like no matter what the Packers were

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Speaker 10: doing the Miles, What was that like for you guys

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Speaker 10: to see in the secondary for the whole afternoon?

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Speaker 7: I love? It makes my job a lot easier. So,

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Speaker 7: you know, those guys up front has been doing an

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Speaker 7: amazing job this season. The ability to just rush for

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Speaker 7: it's a hard thing to do in the NFL. A

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Speaker 7: lot of teams can't just do that. So for for

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Speaker 7: our guys, Malik Aiden got in there, Mason obviously, Miles, Jay, everybody, Alex.

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Speaker 7: We have an elite D line.

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Speaker 11: Group, speaking of Mason and Malik in particular in that interior,

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Speaker 11: have you guys felt so I know it's a small

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Speaker 11: sample size, it's three games, but have you felt a

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Speaker 11: difference in what you guys are able to do upfront

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Speaker 11: and how that trickles back to you guys in the

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Speaker 11: secondary from even last season. Just having their presence in

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Speaker 11: there and what they've been able to do in these

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Speaker 11: three games.

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Speaker 7: For sure, getting a leak was was huge for us

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Speaker 7: first veteran player. He's super physical, Like I watched the

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Speaker 7: tape and he's always around the ball. And then Mason,

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Speaker 7: he's been playing unbelievable. I think this game people were

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Speaker 7: able to see his pass rush moves a lot more,

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Speaker 7: and I'm glad he was able to showcase that. But

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Speaker 7: those guys, definitely we always say Russian coverage work together,

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Speaker 7: so they've been doing an amazing job up there.

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Speaker 11: It's not your position, but it's one that you get

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Speaker 11: to celebrate when they are good, and then you have

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Speaker 11: to kind of lift up when things don't go their way.

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Speaker 11: Andre obviously has that bounce back from week one. As

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Speaker 11: you see in the NFL, the position go through the

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Speaker 11: highs and the lows. What's it like to watch that?

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Speaker 11: How difficult do you think it would be to be

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Speaker 11: in that position, to have all eyes on you and

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Speaker 11: then the intense criticism when things don't go your way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, super tough. We always say there's really three positions

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Speaker 7: on the field that can win you lose you a game.

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Speaker 7: That's cornerback, quarterback, and kicker, so you know all the

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Speaker 7: eyes are on you, especially out there. I'm at kicker.

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Speaker 7: But for him to bounce back like the way he

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Speaker 7: did just shows the type of character he has shows

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Speaker 7: the mindset that he has. And you know, as soon

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Speaker 7: as we got him in field position right away, I

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Speaker 7: was on the bench, I say, ye's ball game. I

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Speaker 7: already knew he was gonna come, he was gonna show

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Speaker 7: up for us, and he did an amazing job. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Greg, So did you lose your voice just in the

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Speaker 6: aftermath of like on the field or did it carry

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Speaker 6: over even into the locker room? Is this common for

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Speaker 6: you to lose your voice? And does this just speak

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Speaker 6: to how exciting, how fun that game was for you

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Speaker 6: and all the fans in attendance.

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Speaker 7: No, yeah, I lose my game. I mean my voice

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Speaker 7: every single game. Like I'm always out there screaming, celebrating, yelling,

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Speaker 7: but definitely just screaming after the game didn't help. And

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Speaker 7: then in the locker room just scream and all that.

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Speaker 7: None of that helps. But yeah, I tend to talk

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Speaker 7: a lot during the game, so I lose it every game.

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Speaker 6: And what does a victory like this say about you?

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Speaker 8: Guys?

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Speaker 6: As a football team.

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Speaker 7: We're resilient no matter what happens, no matter what anyone thinks.

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Speaker 7: We're a resilient group. And you know, we always play

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Speaker 7: for each other. We're never going to back down for

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Speaker 7: any challenge, and you know, the skies the limit for us.

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Speaker 7: We just got to continue to keep our head down,

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Speaker 7: keep working, and and try to keep our stacking wins.

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Speaker 12: Last week we heard about you know, these takeaway drills

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Speaker 12: that you guys do you know early in practice, I

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Speaker 12: was wondering, like, for the dbs for cornerbacks, what does

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Speaker 12: that look like for you guys? And I know sometimes

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Speaker 12: you need to just get like a like a like

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Speaker 12: a lucky balance or whatever in the game, But how

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Speaker 12: do you think that that translated over to game days.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we do a lot of like second man man

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Speaker 7: normally at corner where normally the second man in on tackles,

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Speaker 7: just finding ways to punch at the ball. I think

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Speaker 7: Ward had a few great punches in the game. We

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Speaker 7: do a lot of obviously catching the football when it

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Speaker 7: comes our way. Just continue to keep doing the same

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Speaker 7: things each week because eventually there will be some in

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Speaker 7: the air. We got to find a way to come

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Speaker 7: down with those. So think b Lunch does a great job.

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Speaker 7: We're just allowing us to just work everything, whether it's tackling, punching,

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Speaker 7: tracking the d ball, a lot of that stuff.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Greg, I mean I know we've asked you about

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Speaker 10: the interception, but I mean for you guys as DB's

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Speaker 10: just the fact that this ended the streak of like

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Speaker 10: seven games without an interception, it ended the streak of

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Speaker 10: four games without a takeaway. Like, how satisfying is that

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Speaker 10: part of it that that's not active anymore?

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Speaker 7: I guess it's amazing. And like I said, they come

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Speaker 7: in bunches, so you know, you just got to try

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Speaker 7: to get that first one. Grant got that first one,

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Speaker 7: and I think they'll they'll start coming in in bunches.

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Speaker 7: I think the football guys are on our side right now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Greg, two questions real quick, if you don't mind.

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Speaker 6: The first one is, I know this is the other

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Speaker 6: side of the ball, but you guys are family, so

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Speaker 6: you know, how do you feel about the news the

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Speaker 6: Dewand is out for the season with a knee injury

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Speaker 6: that will require surgery.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's tough. I actually just found out. Definitely got

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Speaker 7: to reach out to him, but definitely a loss for us,

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Speaker 7: A big loss for us. The guy that's been been

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Speaker 7: working his tail off. You you obviously never think any

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Speaker 7: of that is gonna happen. You don't prepare for anything

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Speaker 7: like that, but I will definitely be with them the

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Speaker 7: entire time through his recovery process. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 7: keep his spirits up.

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Speaker 6: And then my second question is I saw even Pat

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Speaker 6: McAfee tweet today the Browns are not I think it

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Speaker 6: was a SS family zoom here and so so my

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Speaker 6: question is, uh, do you feel like a victory over

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Speaker 6: the packers? Uh gave you guys some some street credibility

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Speaker 6: a little bit and people can maybe now see that

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Speaker 6: this is a little different than people thought it might be.

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Speaker 7: I think it really, I think it gave viewers we

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Speaker 7: already know what we what we have, like we're dominant,

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Speaker 7: Like is it like we know that that's that's what

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Speaker 7: we pride ourselves on, So we don't really look for

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Speaker 7: outside reassurance like we know what we got. So, like

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Speaker 7: I said, people just got to continue to tune in

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Speaker 7: and watch. We're gonna we're gonna find a way to

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Speaker 7: win this week. We're gonna we're gonna work hard this week,

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Speaker 7: and we're goal to Keith stacking them. I mean, you

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Speaker 7: know people will join the bandwagon soon, all.

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