1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Welcome to the A Girl Podcast. I'm here with Hannah. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Hi the Internet it girl. No, thank you, thank you 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: so much for coming. I feel like you are though 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: you're like an og. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's really nice. That's a nice one. 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: And I feel like that's a hard thing. Like the 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: Internet's been around for a while. There's been a lot 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: of it girls. There's been a lot of YouTubers and 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Internet girlies. 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: And I feel like your name. 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 2: You say your name and people immediately think of like 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: YouTube and the og that's nice. 13 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: That's really nice. Thank you. You started YouTube very young. 14 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: When you look back at those videos, what do you 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: see now that maybe you didn't see then. 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I was just so pure. I was 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: just like loving making my little videos. And I think 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: now that I've gotten older, I'm like, I want to 19 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: channel that fun energy, like that fun, wholesome energy into 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: what I'm doing now now that I'm about to be 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: like twenty five, I'm like, what was thirteen year old 22 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: and me doing? Even though it was kind of cringe, 23 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: It's like I was myself and just having. 24 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: Imagine if I had a million videos of me at thirteen, 25 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: I feel like I would. 26 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: A lot of them are privated. Oh really fair. 27 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've done that with like a lot of 28 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: tiktoks and stuff that it were even like five years 29 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: ago that I'm like what. 30 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: We're like, why were I posting that? Why did I 31 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: think that was cute? That's so embarrassing. 32 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: What motivated you to start YouTube at that age? And 33 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: how did you know you wanted to stick with it? 34 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: I think like as a kid growing up, I watched 35 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: like I Carly and Victorious and all like the well 36 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: I Carly was like the web show one, so I 37 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: always wanted a web show when I was like ten, 38 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: ten eleven, and then I think I started watching YouTubers 39 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: like Bethany Moda and just like make up YouTubers, and 40 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: so that's when I decided. When I was thirteen, I 41 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to post my first video. It's 42 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: going to be a DIY video or a makeup video, 43 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: and I posted like, how to make Lipstick out of 44 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: Krans was my first YouTube video? Did you you made 45 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: lipstick out of Crans? Yeah? It was like it's so pixelated, 46 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: but like it was a makeup video technically, Like it 47 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: made you stick with it for so long. I honestly 48 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: don't know. I think I was just like I had 49 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: so much fun with it at first that I just 50 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: wanted to grow and create a community. And I remember 51 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: like first when I started, I would comment on all 52 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: the YouTubers videos I watched and like other small YouTubers, 53 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, Hi, I want to be friends, 54 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: like I just started my channel, like love your videos. 55 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: Like I just really loved it. I don't know, I 56 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: honestly don't know. 57 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: I mean, this is like that's a long career. It 58 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: to stick with for that many years. 59 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: Now that I've like stuck with it, I think it's 60 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: gone by so fast that it's about to be twelve 61 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: years of doing it, and I'm like, how did that happen? 62 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: But I still love it. So it's like it's evolved 63 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: like slightly, but I still love it. So I feel 64 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: grateful that I. 65 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: Do you feel like your audience has grown with you 66 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: or do you feel like you're constantly finding a new audience. 67 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: I hope so I feel like as I've grown, like 68 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a little bit weird to introduce stuff, like 69 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: I think I've always felt a little weird about like 70 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: like growing up and transitioning into certain things. But like 71 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: I try to make it as organic as I can 72 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: and staying true to like what I'm doing in my 73 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: actual life. But I hope that my audience has grown 74 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: with me. I think it's hard to say, but I 75 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: do like love meeting girls, whether they're like younger or 76 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: older or my age. It's like, yeah, I don't know 77 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: at what point, like maybe they found my videos, but 78 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: like I think it's really cool to just meet girls 79 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: like similar to my age. And I'm like, I don't know, 80 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: I hope that. 81 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: Do you get a lot of girls saying like I 82 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: watched you from the beginning. 83 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Some that's like I feel like that's like the biggest 84 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: compliment because I'm like, Wow, if you saw me at 85 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: like fifteen or sixteen and you had like stuck with 86 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: it or you were watching back then, that's like hilarious 87 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: to me. And it's it's like comforting. I think I 88 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: feel comfortable around people that say that that are like, 89 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I was watching your videos at fifteen 90 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: or sixteen. I'm like, oh wow, like you know me. 91 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you have the same relationship with 92 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: them that they have with you. 93 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: I feel like, especially when I meet people in person, 94 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: it's so fun for me. I feel like that's like 95 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: one of my biggest blessings with this is going like 96 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: maybe out and about if I'm like ever in New 97 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: City or like even just being in New York now 98 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: meeting girls, it's so comforting and like having a conversation 99 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: with someone like I don't know, it feels like a 100 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: friendship to me at least, and like an easy way 101 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: to make friends at least. That's so sweet. 102 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 2: I can imagine meeting someone who's like, I've known you 103 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: since you were a kid. Nice to meet you, Like, 104 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: that's so fun, so fun. You've survived multiple eras of YouTube. 105 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: What do you think people maybe get wrong about being 106 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: a long term content creator and being a full time 107 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: content creator. 108 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about like what people might get wrong. 109 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: Or anything you think maybe people have that are misconceptions about. 110 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: You, misconceptions. I think that we're to a point now 111 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: where people know that you don't post everything that you 112 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: go through, or you don't post everything. Not everything is public. 113 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: I think when I was younger and we were all 114 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: like just posting, I think that I don't know, I 115 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: don't even think it's a misconception. I just think like, 116 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: as we've grown up. People know you post what you 117 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: want to post kind of thing, and like some moments 118 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: are kept private. Like I think that there's a better 119 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: line now with like the boundaries, Yeah, which is good. 120 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think like a misconception about social media. 121 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: I think for me, it's like hard to put yourself 122 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: out there sometimes and like reput yourself out there and 123 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: like reput out what you're going through. But at the 124 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: same time, it leads back to like connecting with people 125 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: and having fun with it and staying positive with it. 126 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: So I think, like that's what I always come back to. 127 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, do you feel more like a business 128 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: woman now or like a YouTuber. 129 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I've come back to being like a 130 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: YouTuber just because that's what I've always loved. But I 131 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: think there's room to grow in like the entrepreneurs space. 132 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: And I did for a little bit, Like I was 133 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: had my jeweler business for five years and that was 134 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: amazing and I learned so much from that, but I 135 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: really did miss creating full time and like leaving so 136 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: much just like energy and mind space for that. So 137 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: I think after stopping my jewelry company about a year ago, 138 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: I feel like I've come back full circle to YouTube 139 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: and like being online again, which has been really fulfilling, 140 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: and like finding my place with it. 141 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: What is the biggest business lesson you had to learn 142 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: the hard way? 143 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: I think I needed to get better at organizing. I'm 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: not a very organized person, and being a business owner 145 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: and managing people, you have to be so organized and 146 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: so on it and just like no, I mean, yeah, 147 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: i think I'm better at maybe the creative part of things, 148 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: and I have so many ideas, but you also have 149 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: to have that strict, disciplined, organized part of you. And 150 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: I think that's where I lacked, and maybe I put 151 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: too much pressure on it and I didn't know how 152 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: to like do both of them. I think I could 153 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: give it another go, but I really do feel like 154 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: you need multiple people to kind of help you. And 155 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: I think that's where like type A and Type B, 156 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: or like someone that's better at time managing and someone 157 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: that's better more creative and has more of like a vision, 158 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: you need like a good team. And I think that's why, 159 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: like that's why I learned I needed. 160 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel like it's a really hard balance. 161 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: I'm not super creative and so whenever it comes to that. 162 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not I'm a. 163 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: Very straightforward, business minded kind of I'm a Capricorn. I'm 164 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: a true Capricorn, and I'm not like RT and loose 165 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: in that way. And I feel like when it comes 166 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: to the creative stuff, I'm always like, I need someone 167 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: else to do this. 168 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: I really really, really really really struggle with it. 169 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: Even when I sit down to try to do YouTube 170 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, I'm just like, that's like, that's 171 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: not where I excel. I could give like a Ted 172 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: talk before I could make a good YouTube video. Like 173 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: I'm just more really straightforward, I think, than what it requires. 174 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: And I think you're right to have a business, you 175 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: have to have a balance of both or you have 176 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: to know how to hire the. 177 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Right people exactly. And I think that you just have 178 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: to build a good team and like that takes a 179 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: lot of work too. But that's funny because my best friend, 180 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: he's very type A, and he's like, I wish I 181 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: knew the same thing. You're saying, how to create this, 182 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: how to create that, And I'm like, really, because that's 183 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: the easy part to me, And then I don't know 184 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: how to take the steps to get there. So yeah, 185 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: I think it's like a good team for sure. 186 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's the challenge of having a 187 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: business is building out the people that you need. 188 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: This is why I would never start one personally. Really. 189 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: Everyone always says, like, would you start a. 190 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: Brand, And I'm like, no, I just think the things 191 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: I don't. I lack the creativity and I feel like 192 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: the part of building a team just seems so challenging 193 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: to me. And I feel like one person can spoil 194 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: it and one wrong. 195 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just yeah, my mom's built like so many 196 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: businesses too, So I think I've always like taken advice 197 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: from her, But she's much more like type a wake 198 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: up early, get it done on the clock like sort 199 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: of person. But I think, yeah, I don't know, that's 200 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: what I've always like looked up to. It was some 201 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: of the best advice she gave you. Oh my gosh. 202 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: She's just such a hard worker. I think she she 203 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: just never kind of stops. Like she's the type of 204 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: like girl that gets up at five am and works 205 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: out and takes five meetings and then still is like 206 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: handling all of us kids at home. Like growing up, 207 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: that's what I was around, So I think I've always 208 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: felt like I could do it. But it's a little 209 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: bit humbling too when you're like you have a vision 210 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: and it doesn't all click. So I don't know, but 211 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I could try it again. You would 212 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: do it again though, potentially? Yeah, Like if I had 213 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: another great idea and something I really wanted to execute, 214 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: I think I would have a bet idea of how 215 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: to like go into it and start. I can't wait 216 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: to see it. 217 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, You've watched influencer culture shift a lot throughout your 218 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: twelve years. 219 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: Where do you think we are right now? Oh? I 220 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: think people are trying to I think people are trying 221 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: to be way more authentic again, which I really really appreciate, 222 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: and just come on as themselves. And that's something that 223 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm working on too, is like not having it be 224 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: as polished and it's okay to like, yeah, be your 225 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: authentic self. So I think I think people are really 226 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: like staying true they themselves. Like that's what I'm noticing 227 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: a lot, is like being consistent with posting and kind 228 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: of staying more vulnerability. I feel like it's what I'm seeing. 229 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: Do you feel the Internet's gotten nicer or harsher? 230 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: I think nicer. Really, I think nicer. Okay, that's good 231 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: to hear. Yeah, I don't know why. I just feel 232 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: like people are trying to be more supportive, and it's 233 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: like we all like wanna do our own thing and 234 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: succeed and be happy, and so I think like at 235 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: least what I'm seeing is a lot of like positivity 236 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: and just like friends up lifting each other. So I 237 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: love that. Yeah. 238 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we've seen a huge shift towards short form 239 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: content since you started. Do you feel like we're in 240 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: a YouTube renaissance? Do you feel like YouTube's coming back? 241 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: I feel like YouTube is. Yeah. I think it's like 242 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: easy to connect with people on YouTube too, or just 243 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: to like sit down and hill. It's more like you 244 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: can kind of zone out and like I watch my 245 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: friends YouTube videos too, so like if I miss I'm 246 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: gonna say Ava, like I'll put on her YouTube video 247 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh, like i feel like 248 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm with her right now. So it's very calming where 249 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: I feel like short form is cool and its own 250 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: way because it's also very entertaining and you can still 251 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: connect with people. But I think YouTube's just a little 252 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: bit more sit down vibe I love love vlog Yeah, 253 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: blogs are of blug. Yeah, I do love loogs. 254 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: I feel like it's a very peaceful place to go, 255 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 2: like you said, instead of putting on TV, which I 256 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: feel like can be anxiety and inducing and it's like 257 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: so fast paced. I feel like YouTube can just be 258 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: a very serene place to go to watch something that 259 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: has no stakes. 260 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's so different, Like I think people 261 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: go to YouTube for different reasons maybe, like I think 262 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: I put on a YouTube video when I'm like eating 263 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: or I'm getting ready and it's like chill, and then 264 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: if I'm wanting to catch up like quickly and do 265 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: something on my phone. Like there's still so many people 266 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: I love to watch, like short form wise, what kind 267 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: of content do you like to watch? I watch a 268 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: lot of podcasts, funny enough, like you were saying the 269 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Ted Talks stuff. I do like to watch Ted Talks. 270 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: I went through a phase where I was watching doing 271 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: the Diary of a CEO. I was watching him just 272 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: like maybe random Ted Talks that like interests me, which 273 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: is so funny. And then I'll watch like my friend's vlogs, 274 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: and then just kind of any other like maybe random 275 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: YouTube videos that pop up on my suggested Yeah, do. 276 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: You feel like women are more empowered on the internet 277 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: now than when you started? 278 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. I really think, like maybe this 279 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: is just what I'm seeing, but I'm just seeing so 280 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: many more women uplifting each other, and like, I don't know, 281 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: I just think everything's more transparent now and people are 282 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, supporting artists, and I think I see 283 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: a lot of like friends supporting friends online and it's 284 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: like it's just great to see. Yeah. 285 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: Do you feel like the business side of it has 286 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: changed a lot? And like influencers in the way that 287 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: they're respected as businesses, do you feel like that's changed 288 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: as well? 289 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Maybe I still feel a little weird when I'm like, like, 290 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: sounds like what do you do for work? And I'm like, uh, 291 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I'm a YouTuber I post on Instagram? 292 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Do I say I'm an influencer? Do I say like 293 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm a content creator? Obviously it's kind of like all 294 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: the same thing, but I think it is a little 295 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: different now. I think now that more brands are involved, 296 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: and more relationships are involved, and there's more of a 297 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: community around people's like personal profiles and like friendships can 298 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: come out of it in really cool opportunities and events, 299 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: and there's just so much that can come out of 300 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: like putting yourself out there that I think maybe it's 301 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: a little bit different. I think no one knew what 302 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: was going to come of like posting your life online 303 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: at first, especially being like super vulnerable and everything. But 304 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: I think now it feels more steady because there's like 305 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: maybe more of a balance of posting what you want 306 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: to post and being vulnerable and then also knowing that, 307 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: like you are your own person offline and there are 308 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: some private things, So I think there's more like of 309 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: a flip switch with it. 310 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, we're brands coming to you from the jump, 311 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: or did you feel like you had to kind of 312 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: like convince them that there was value in this at first. 313 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: I think I first started doing brand deals around sixteen, 314 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: Like actually I did at like fifteen, but I was 315 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: signed with my management I think right as I turned sixteen. 316 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: But that's crazy. 317 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: They even had influencer managers back then. 318 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: It was a new thing and I didn't know what 319 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: was really going to come of it because I was 320 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: doing brand deals on my own. There was like a 321 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: website that you can kind of connect with brands, and 322 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: I was just doing that at fifteen. I was like whatever, 323 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: my mom kind of helped me. And then fifteen started 324 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: working with my management and we didn't sign with each 325 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: other until a couple months later, but the first deals 326 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: that would come up were like Hollister, and I was 327 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: just excited to be working with Hollister. I was like, 328 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: that's actually crazy that they're gonna send me clothes and 329 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: I get to try them on and post about them. 330 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: This is so cool. But deals like that, we're super exciting, 331 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: and I think that it's kind of flowed since then. 332 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: But obviously there's brands that I'm like, I want them 333 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: to know I like them as a brand, so I'm 334 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: going to put myself out there so that they know 335 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: I actually really enjoy them and wear them and use 336 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: their products. So like, I will put myself out there 337 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: to brands too. 338 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: What part of content creation still excites to you today? 339 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: Because I feel like there are times, at least for me, 340 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: where it is not exciting. 341 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think, like right now, I think 342 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: getting ready and like showing my outfit and like showing 343 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: what I'm doing is very cute. It's very fun and 344 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: like lighthearted. I don't, And I think where the vlogs 345 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: are maybe where I get more personal of like this 346 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: is what I'm doing, or these are like my friends, 347 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: or this is where I'm at in life, but for 348 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Instagram or maybe like TikTok, just like keeping it more 349 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: lighthearted and maybe fashion like just out showing outfits and 350 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: showing makeup is kind of what I've been doing and 351 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: that seems to be like natural and just fun for me, 352 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: So I like that. 353 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: What do you think makes someone successful and magnetic online today? 354 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: What do you think is the key to being an influencer? 355 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: If someone will just start right now, what would your 356 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: advice be? 357 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: I think post what you genuinely like to post. So 358 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: if it's coming naturally, like whatever you're doing throughout your 359 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: day or whatever you want to talk about, and if 360 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: it feels comfortable, definitely post it. Like I think being 361 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: consistent and posting what makes you feel comfortable, whether it's 362 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: like yeah, fashion or showing your outfits, or like talking 363 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: about what you're doing with your day or talking about 364 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: something you're going through, or maybe you want to make 365 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: more like of a funny video, Like I think that 366 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: anything that you're feeling and if it feels good with 367 00:17:52,080 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 1: good intentions like post it. Where do you see the 368 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: creator industry heading? What do you think is the future? 369 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: I feel like that's hard to say. I feel like 370 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: it's really hard to say because I think the best 371 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: you can do is put yourself out there. And everyone's 372 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: putting themselves out there and posting, connecting with brands and 373 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: trying their best, and I think that it's hard to 374 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: say where the Internet's going, Like, I feel like the 375 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: Internet's always changing, and so I think that people being 376 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: themselves and telling a story and like being genuine and 377 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: connecting with people that will never go away, which is 378 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: why I think being yet an influencer or content creator, like, 379 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: I think that that is valuable when you're genuine about 380 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: it because it's like a connection with another person, and 381 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: that's so valuable. So I don't know where it's going 382 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: in terms of brands or opportunities. I feel like it's 383 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: kind of open ended, especially since an so it's it's 384 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: like so powerful over the past whatever ten fifteen years, 385 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: it's taken so many twists and turns, so I feel 386 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: like you never really know. 387 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: Like I do feel like the human connection portion is 388 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: the most important thing, right, and just really exposing yourself 389 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: and really being honest and really showing everything. 390 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's the only way. And I feel like 391 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: you know about that too, because now you're on a show, right, 392 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: And yes, like, how's that? Is that fun? It's so 393 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: fun but so scary? Is it? Yeah? 394 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: So fun, but so scary, so yourself out just you're 395 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: being filmed twenty four hours a day and it's just 396 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: so true and so real and so you and I 397 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: love it because I am such an honest person, but 398 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 2: it's just very scary. And I had never been in 399 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: a position before to realize that people could misinterpret. 400 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: Something so honest, Oh my gosh. 401 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: And like, you sit down, you say exactly what happened, 402 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: You tell the exact truth about how you feel, You 403 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: tell the exact story would happen to. Then people say 404 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: you lied, or that's not how it happened, or you 405 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: misinterpreted it, or they don't believe you. And I'm just like, oh, 406 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: I never imagined that if I just like, I just 407 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: didn't think people would you sit here and tell me 408 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: a story? I believe you, you know, I'm not sitting 409 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: here being like sounds like a lie. 410 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you might be a liar and it's 411 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 1: just like wait, what No, But I respect that. I 412 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: respect like, I mean, being filmed twenty four to seven. 413 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: You're like honest emotions when things happen and telling yeah. 414 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: And people say it's in asensetead I saw that. I've 415 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: seen that so many times. Oh, you're that's you're trying 416 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: too hard. 417 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: That's not real. That didn't really, that's not how she 418 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: really feels. She was just faking. And I'm like, that 419 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: was my. 420 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: Really wait, honest, complete true moment that I was horribly 421 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: embarrassed about and like waiting for people to see and 422 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: scared for people to see. Yeah, and then you're like, wait, 423 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: don't believe me, Like what, Yeah. 424 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: I think that's why it's like it's so interesting, Like 425 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: but I respect that so much. I think being filmed 426 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: and your honest reaction to things, I feel like it's 427 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: like you can't cut that out and that's so honest 428 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: and true. So I think even I feel a little 429 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: lucky because I think I get to protect myself or 430 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: protect private moments that I'm like, no, I you know, 431 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: I want to like handle that in private, or I 432 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: want to keep that for myself. So I think that's 433 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: very brave too. It's like putting yourself out there like that. 434 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: And I think people forget sometimes too when they're watching 435 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: it that like this could be thirteen hours into a day. 436 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't know when I woke up, you 437 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: don't know how long I was being filmed, you don't 438 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: know how many times I've discussed this scenario. 439 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. That's crazy. 440 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, it's an authentic It's like 441 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: you can't fake it. After thirteen hours, I was tired, 442 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: Like I'm not faking it. I'm exhausted, and that's like 443 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: how I really felt. 444 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: So it's very you give up. 445 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: Control and it's weird and all that, but it's extremely fun. 446 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: And I, like you said, I love the human connection 447 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: part of it, and I love people messaging me and 448 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: like telling me their stories of traumatic breakups and things 449 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: like that, and me just being like, oh, I feel 450 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: you on a level you don't even know, so that. 451 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: I really love. And I feel like that's what the. 452 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: Internet should turn into, is just like just more honesty, 453 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: just more real, just more vulnerability. I feel like it 454 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: makes people feel less alone, it makes people feel more 455 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: connected it For a lot of people. I feel like 456 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 2: that's where we have to turn to, you know, like 457 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 2: that's the way people communicate these days. It might not 458 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: be in person, it might be online. That might be 459 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: the only place someone has to find connection, and so 460 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: I feel like it should be the most honest and 461 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 2: raw and real version. 462 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: No, I agree of that. I agree. I feel like 463 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: you're really good about that. I do. 464 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 2: I feel like you're You've been putting yourself out there 465 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: for a long time. 466 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm good. But I also I feel like I pull 467 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: back sometimes because I'm like, uh, like I want to 468 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: protect that or protect It's kind of cool to. 469 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: Have to relinquish control because like I don't get to 470 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: control now like what people When. 471 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: I'm making a video, I get to control it. 472 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: When I'm doing a podcast, I get to control it 473 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: when it and now having moments where it's like I 474 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: have zero controls, zero memory of what happened, it was, 475 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what it's. 476 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: Going to be. 477 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: And that's kind of nice because I'm like, hmm, maybe 478 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have wanted someone to see that. If I 479 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: could take back me crying, I would have in a second, 480 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: like I don't. I don't know if you saw it, 481 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: but I cried and it was like a big thing. 482 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I have to watch it. 483 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in the first episode. I cried and it 484 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: was the first night and I immediately started crying. And 485 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: I would have never intentionally put that out on my own, yeah, 486 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: because I didn't want to cry. I just there was 487 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: a lot going on. And now I'm like, huh, okay, 488 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: well everybody got that and like people connected with it, 489 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: so that's amazing. If it would have been me in control, 490 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: I never would have allowed that. And so the fact 491 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: that somebody got to do it, how they would do 492 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: it from an outside perspective, I feel like it was 493 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: for the better. 494 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: That's crazy. And also like props too, because I feel 495 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: like that is very second No, not at all. I 496 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: mean I'm gonna watch it now, but like I feel 497 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: like that is that's very scary for me still, like 498 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: even coming on the podcast. I like love talking to 499 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: you and love like our conversations and I trust you, 500 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: but like it's still scary. Yeah, it's still scary to 501 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: put yourself out there because I think to be misinterpreted 502 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: or whatever when you don't have control, and I think 503 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: that's I'm used to posting, like, Okay, you know, I 504 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: love this video and I love like everything I talked 505 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: about in it. I'm gonna post it whatever. It's positive. 506 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: I know the angle is like I know that this 507 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: is like great, but like it is so scary to 508 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: put yourself out there, truly it is. I don't think 509 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: that it's for everyone. 510 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: I will say that, yeah, I think that, Yeah, you 511 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 2: got to be a very specific kind of person in it, 512 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: and you're really just kind of like thrown into it. 513 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't suggest it necessarily if that's not something 514 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: you enjoy. If you don't enjoy being ripped apart by people, 515 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: ten out of ten do not recommend. Yeah, moving into 516 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: your style. 517 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: And your amazing personal style. What does good taste mean 518 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: to you at this stage in your life? Good taste 519 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: in clothing. 520 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: Clothing, fashion, style, makeup, whatever. 521 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I think good taste is like whatever makes you 522 00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: feel most confident and comfortable personally. Yeah, but I also 523 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: think that you kind of click with the people that 524 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: like if they have a similar style. It's like, oh 525 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: do we have the same taste? Per se, Like I 526 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: think it it's like all expression, Like how you dress 527 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: is like you're trying to I guess, come off a 528 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: certain way or you're trying to, like, I don't know, 529 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: express yourself through the fashion and like through the with 530 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: the way you present yourself. I think it's like it's 531 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: all very interesting, but I think it's tailored to each person. 532 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like good taste. 533 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: Are you more of a chic girly? Are you more 534 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: of a maximalist a minimalist? Yeah? 535 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: Wait, I think I said that. Yeah, no, no, no, I'm 536 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: trying to think. I feel like myself has always been 537 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: kind of more basic because I think I like being comfortable, 538 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: but I think lately I like being yeah, comfortable and 539 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: somewhat like chic and like feeling like I'm put together. 540 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: I think I'm more minimalist, like I like more minimal jewelry. 541 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: And I don't even know how I would describe my style. 542 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: I think goes by season two, but I think I 543 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: try to stay chic and like simple, and I don't 544 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: I haven't been wearing like too many patterns or anything either. 545 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: Like I think for spring and summer it'll be more 546 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: fun and colorful, and I'm excited for that. 547 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: Like, I can't wait to be done with this winter fashion. 548 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: It's quite literally killing me these puffer coats. I don't 549 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: want to wear another puffer coat. 550 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: I know what excites you most about fashion in twenty 551 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: twenty six. I feel like it's really coming. Fashion's coming 552 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: back in a fun way. 553 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: I think, so I was saying, I think where we're 554 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: at with like the Internet and where everyone's at with themselves. 555 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: I think everyone wants to be themselves, and so I 556 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: think there's still obviously like trends and stuff that are 557 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: gonna happen like in the spring and summer that are 558 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: still like fun to keep up with. But I think 559 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: that everyone is being very like tailored to themselves, and 560 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: so I think that it's fun to see people dress 561 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: like early two thousands or maybe more. Sheic like clean 562 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: girl or I don't know. I feel like there's gonna 563 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: be so many different styles, especially as like spring and 564 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: summer come around, that I'm like so excited about. And 565 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: I think something to compare that to is one of 566 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: my best friends. She she's like a finance girl, and 567 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: so she gets up and like gets very dressed like 568 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: clean girl professional, goes to the office and then when 569 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: she comes home on the weekends, she has the most 570 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: like pink sequins gurly style, and so I feel like 571 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: it'll just it changes so much like throughout someone's even 572 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: day that and like what mood you're in or where 573 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: you're going that. I'm trying to think, are. 574 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 2: There trends that you're loving that you're seeing right now? 575 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of trends I haven't even noticed 576 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: like that many like trends per se because I feel 577 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: like normally I can nail it and be like, oh, 578 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: I feel like we're going towards this or that, but 579 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: I really do feel like everyone's dressing to themselves. What 580 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm like leaning towards is I'm like just 581 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: excited for spring fashion, Like I love like thrifted sheer things. 582 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: I think bigger bags again. I've been loving, yeah, loving 583 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: a bigger bag. I think I'm like trying to think 584 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: of like stuff or festival season, which is like lots 585 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: of swede and tans and sparkles. I think, so, yeah, 586 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: especially this year. It is. It is my nightmare. We 587 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: really have you been? Yes? Yes? Oh really I don't 588 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: like it? No, I mean it gives me a lot. 589 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: It is overwhelming and very hot. 590 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there are so many people and it is 591 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: like influencer Hunger Games. 592 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: It's it's scary there. It's a lot, I think. But 593 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: if the lineup's good. 594 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: I know, Justin Bieber, that's been so amazing. 595 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm like the Justin and Sabrina, Yes they are just that'll. 596 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: I think it'll be a really fun year. So I 597 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: think that's why I'm excited. But every year is different too, 598 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: So I think it's like, yeah, where you're staying. What 599 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: the game plan? I stay? 600 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: The walk? 601 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: The walk, oh, the walk. Yeah, the walk was the 602 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: part that I said. 603 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: I remember making that walk back when you're trying to 604 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: get a newber and you have to walk like five 605 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: miles and I was like, I will never be returning 606 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: to the just. 607 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: Like this is it for me? You won't go this year? 608 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: No, oh my god, unless the most miraculous thing happened 609 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: where it was like I was making so much money, 610 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: I couldn't possibly say no, that'd be the only way 611 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: I would go. 612 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I would not. I would not go for my enjoyment. Really, 613 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: So I think that's so funny because I think, like 614 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm hope. Yeah, I think I'm going like as of 615 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: right now, I hope so, but this is the only 616 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: year that I think I would go like based on music. 617 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: I would go on based off the music, Like I 618 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: think it's so fun, it'll be like a great time. 619 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: I also with like my brother and my best friend 620 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: last year, and I think I've like learned to keep 621 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: it like reel it in and just it is a lot. 622 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of walking, there's a lot of everything. 623 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: So I think it the most cozy and wholesome you 624 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: can make it, the more enjoyable it is. 625 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, unless the culture around it shifted, that would be 626 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 2: like there's just the other festivals that I'm like that 627 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: don't feel like influencer Hunger Games, but like I would 628 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: go to that. What festivals would you guys I would 629 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: go to. 630 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: I'd probably go to Rolling Loud. I would go to 631 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: Southwest Southwest. I would go to what's the other. 632 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 2: One, What's the one in Texas that's like everybody has 633 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: really really cool fashion. There's one in Texas that everybody 634 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: has really cool style, and it's like, I'm trying much 635 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: more humble Coachella. I would go to that one. Oh, 636 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to don't know what it's called. 637 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: But like they're starting to do way. 638 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: Like there's publications that refuse to report on Coachella now 639 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: because they're like it's so cheesy and not cool that 640 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: they're like, we won't be talking about. 641 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: Coachella fashion this year. 642 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: And there's a festival in Texas that is like taken 643 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: over that they're like, we'll Howard on this fashion. Oh wow, 644 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: it's just something something different, smaller and humbler. 645 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: It will be more my vibe. Okay, I like that. 646 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: What are you building toward? Where do you see yourself 647 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: going building toward? I think like right now, this is 648 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: one of the first times where I'm like I've reeled 649 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: it in a little bit, and I'm I just moved here, 650 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: so I just signed on my lease and so I'm 651 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: like I'm moving in, and I think right now I'm 652 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: working on building like a sustainable like life, building my apartment, 653 00:31:54,680 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: building my routine, and like I said, like reprioritizing social media, 654 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: putting myself out there, taking it easy. I think right 655 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: now I'm trying to keep it simple. But I'm at 656 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: one of those phases where most of my goals are 657 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: like yeah, good routine, good friends, happy, you know, working 658 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: with brands. I love having a good relationship with the 659 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: people I work with, like those sort of things. But 660 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: I hope a bigger goal like comes to mind where 661 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I want to like reach for that 662 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: or really strive for that, which I know it will, 663 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: But right now I've reeled it in and just like 664 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: tried to make happiness and health a priority. Especially when 665 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess I just technically moved, I'm like, 666 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: that's the main focus. 667 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: What do you think about New York versus LA, with 668 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: like influencer culture and all of that. 669 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: I personally had a terrible time in LA. Did you 670 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: live there? 671 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 672 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: Ever, oh you did? Okay, I have never lived there, 673 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: but at the times I visited, I think even just 674 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: the city layout is so different because the LA is 675 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: so massive. Yeah, it hardly get a spread out, and 676 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: I think, like, I don't know, I didn't spend too 677 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: much time there. I would visit, but and for events 678 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: and stuff, I think everything was just yet more spread out, 679 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: whereas New York feels more like everyone everything is a 680 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: little bit closer. And so do you like New York 681 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: or you like it? I love it? I love it. 682 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: So much. I love it too. Yeah, when did you 683 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: move here? Four years ago? Four years ago? Oh? Wow, 684 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: I love it. Where do you live? I live on 685 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: the Upper West Side. Okay, so far Where are you in? 686 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: I just come to a west village. Yeah. Oh, but 687 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: my friend lives on the Upper West and like, I 688 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: love going up there. It is but the one I know. 689 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: I know, that's one thing I do now. 690 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: I don't love a thirty five minute subway ride, but yeah, 691 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: but I'll do it because I have to. Yeah, is 692 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: there anything you want to speak into existence? Is there 693 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: anything I make? Everybody speak something into existence? It can 694 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: be personal goal, it can be a career goal, something 695 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: that you just want to say out loud and see 696 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: it come true. 697 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: I think I want to be the healthiest and happiest 698 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: version of myself this year. That was such a good goal. Yeah, 699 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: that's my goal. I love that. 700 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: Okay, last question, but do you think it's the ultimate 701 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: it girl? And why does she inspire you? 702 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Bellahadide. Just like the first time when 703 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: we did the street interview, I don't think that's changed. 704 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 1: I still really admire her. I think she's very true 705 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: to herself and she I just think has a lot 706 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: of love even when she is posting online, like and 707 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: shows up for work and engages with people. From what 708 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: I've seen obviously, Like, I just think she's a good 709 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: role model, and. 710 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: I do feel like she crushes that routine, Like she 711 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: works really really hard, but she takes the time to 712 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: take care of herself when she needs to, and like 713 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: values her health, yes. 714 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: Values wellness. Value also values hard work exactly, and I 715 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: think that's amazing. I think, I don't know, I think 716 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 1: that that's those are the type of people that I 717 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: want to follow, and she just seems very genuine and 718 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: so I think that it's hard to tell, like obviously 719 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: when people post online, like it's hard to tell for anybody, 720 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: but I think that she does a good job at posting, 721 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: like I don't know her personally, but she seems absolutely amazing. 722 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, and stunning gorgeous queen, stunning gorgeous love that 723 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: for her, Yeah, kills it. 724 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: Okay, do you want to shout out your socials? 725 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: Okay? Socials are where do I look your Instagram? Your TikTok? Yeah, 726 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: Hannah Moloch, Hannah Malosh, Why I think was my TikTok? Yeah? 727 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: And then YouTube just Handah Molosh, Yeah. 728 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: Okay, perfect love, and I am at Bailey Ty Taylor 729 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: and we are at A Girl the series. We'll see 730 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: you next week with another ITCK girl. 731 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: Oh thanks for having me, Thank you for coming on.