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Speaker 2: All right, it is time. This is sort of the
Speaker 2: semi official start, John or I may miss one Sunday,
Speaker 2: but this is kind of the official start. As we
Speaker 2: move into August very quickly, John, former NFL scout three
Speaker 2: and out what's going to happen in college football in
Speaker 2: the next year. This is really a thing that's happening.
Speaker 2: So I've talked to two different athletic directors. Is these
Speaker 2: college programs are going to hire general managers because right now,
Speaker 2: these guys don't know how to work their cap. So
Speaker 2: let's say I'll just take usc they're making somewhere between
Speaker 2: thirteen and fifteen million in IL. That's what I've been told.
Speaker 1: You're saying, that's their budget to pay, that's.
Speaker 2: Their annual budget. They're building new facilities. That money is
Speaker 2: always easy to get. Boosters love facilities, they can.
Speaker 1: Feel put their name on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, nil again about thirteen million a year in
Speaker 2: that ballpark. They don't know how to spend it. They
Speaker 2: don't know. They just don't understand quite they needed general manager.
Speaker 2: So I think what's going to happen in college football
Speaker 2: in the next eighteen months. A guy like a Chris
Speaker 2: Peterson who works at Fox, A guy like a Chris Peter.
Speaker 2: You hire Chris Peterson, you give him a good salary,
Speaker 2: and see, Chris, you just run the cap. You organizationally
Speaker 2: kind of run our personnel. You don't get the heat
Speaker 2: of the coach. And I think that guys like Chris
Speaker 2: Peterson are going to have schools throw seven figures at
Speaker 2: them and say, can you run from a personnel standpoint,
Speaker 2: organize our football program because these guys, these schools now
Speaker 2: are paying high schoolers, not seniors. They're paying juniors to
Speaker 2: announce they're going to the schools. So I think there's
Speaker 2: a massive shift going on. UCLA can't compete at all.
Speaker 2: Thank god they're moving to the Big Ten because the
Speaker 2: home attendants will buoye their you know, their revenue, but
Speaker 2: they have a debt service every year. They're they're in
Speaker 2: big trouble.
Speaker 1: Did you see the highlight of Deshaun Foster talking about that,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because he was a high level college player,
Speaker 1: good NFL player. It's not like he's never been in
Speaker 1: front of the media. He's not some lifetime coach. It
Speaker 1: was pretty it felt very UCLA right now and kind
Speaker 1: of Mickey Mouse and it's they're going to be terrible.
Speaker 1: Jake Rosenberg, who I was dming with this weekend, who
Speaker 1: I used to work with with the Eagles, who was
Speaker 1: one of how he's right hand men with the Cap,
Speaker 1: who worked in finance before he got hired with the Eagles,
Speaker 1: left the Eagles and created a company and is now
Speaker 1: working with Oklahoma. He's literally signed contracts and worked with
Speaker 1: these contracts and his business will only grow exponentially quick
Speaker 1: because again, obviously thirteen million is less than two hundred
Speaker 1: million NFL salary cap. But it's still These guys aren't
Speaker 1: used to and philosophically. You know, Kirby Smart I've heard,
Speaker 1: is very uncomfortable getting to a certain number with a
Speaker 1: high school kid. Yeah, he will pay his own guy
Speaker 1: once he gets established, or pay a transfer portal guy.
Speaker 1: But in terms of a high school kid, I mean
Speaker 1: Nebraska Dominic Riola, who I think is the dad? I
Speaker 1: feel the kid's name. Who's the quarterback? You know, there
Speaker 1: are rumors he we got four million dollars and you
Speaker 1: fall college recruiting right closer than I do. We have
Speaker 1: seen a million number one, number two overall guys, the
Speaker 1: guys that turn into Andrew Locke and Trevor Lawrence and
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. But those guys are actually the minority. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the majority bounce around, become average, get benched. That's a
Speaker 1: very risky proposition. Like you said, you don't have fifty
Speaker 1: million to deal with, So if you're gonna allocate several million,
Speaker 1: wasn't the thing a couple of years ago with USC
Speaker 1: I guess it would have been two years ago when
Speaker 1: they had Jordan Adison and Caleb weren't those guys taking
Speaker 1: like eighty percent of their nil money to the two players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's they were worth it. But still, I mean, you
Speaker 1: better get it right.
Speaker 2: It's a much bigger mess than anybody in the sports
Speaker 2: media is talking about. It is a shit show. It is.
Speaker 2: These schools are paying juniors in high school. Some of
Speaker 2: these guys take the money and then they flip their
Speaker 2: senior year to the school that comes to like an
Speaker 2: Oregon and pays more money. So it's a mess. So
Speaker 2: general managers are coming. I think venture capitalists could own
Speaker 2: chunks of college football programs. But it is is it's
Speaker 2: pro football and the air thing. You know, the other
Speaker 2: thing athletic directors are going to have to go through
Speaker 2: over the next couple of years. John, All these sports
Speaker 2: are driven by football. At basketball makes money for men
Speaker 2: and women at a lot of colleges. After that, they
Speaker 2: all lose money. So let's save money a lot. I
Speaker 2: mean so, but it's hard because if let's say you
Speaker 2: have a swimming program or a golf program and it
Speaker 2: loses a million a year, but your third biggest booster
Speaker 2: in the athletic department supports their kid who's on the
Speaker 2: swimming team. So it's very you get you have to
Speaker 2: be very judicious with your decisions because a lot of
Speaker 2: times the biggest boosters their kids, you know, they got
Speaker 2: a scholarship in golf for swimming or water polo or fencing.
Speaker 2: It out east hockey and it's like the sport loses
Speaker 2: US three million, but the guy gave US eight million.
Speaker 2: I think if you really privately asked athletic directors what
Speaker 2: they could do, they would all shave off twenty programs,
Speaker 2: twenty five programs. You can't make money. And so I've
Speaker 2: said years ago you should privatize football. But a lot
Speaker 2: of the biggest boosters at these schools are not football boosters.
Speaker 2: And so but I'm here to tell you there's guys
Speaker 2: out there, the Chris Peterson's Bob Stoops. Those guys. Now
Speaker 2: people are going to start calling them and say, do
Speaker 2: you want to run the program? You're the GM, here's
Speaker 2: a million a year. Just organize this stuff. Run our
Speaker 2: cap and or xgms at fifty five who are just
Speaker 2: burnout from crazy owners. There's a new industry starting in
Speaker 2: college football. General managers are a year away from being
Speaker 2: hired everywhere.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why you're going to see it this year,
Speaker 1: and it's only going to grow the next five years.
Speaker 1: Is the wiping out of all the and them colleges.
Speaker 1: When it comes to football. I was at the gym
Speaker 1: today and this guy who looked like he played football
Speaker 1: was decked out in Washington State football gear. Kind of
Speaker 1: made me sad, you know, I mean, we grew up
Speaker 1: on that program playing in big games. They're going to
Speaker 1: turn it in closer to UC Davis in the next
Speaker 1: five years than they are back to Washington because the
Speaker 1: money the SEC has made. I mean, look at the SEC,
Speaker 1: the amount they pay college basketball coaches now, I mean
Speaker 1: they're college basketball conference now. I fall college golf because
Speaker 1: a lot of the top guys go on to the
Speaker 1: PGA Tour. All the college golf programs in the SEC
Speaker 1: they flay private because, like you say, they have big boosters,
Speaker 1: they have the football money behind it, and the Big
Speaker 1: Ten is not going to be far behind as they
Speaker 1: start making gobs of cash now that they've gotten Oregon
Speaker 1: and USC and it's inevitable. It feels like Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: you know, and those programs go and the SEC gets
Speaker 1: Florida State and Clemson over the next decade, it's gonna
Speaker 1: wipe out the little guy. And I started at Fresno State.
Speaker 1: They don't have a snowballs chance in hell to survive.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's going to become the NFL light
Speaker 1: because I get a lot of questions like why doesn't
Speaker 1: the NFL invest in minor league football? So why would they?
Speaker 1: College football produces all their talent and they don't have
Speaker 1: to spend a penny, so why would they spend any
Speaker 1: expense on developing players. Besides, once they have them in
Speaker 1: their own building, when college football is doing it for them,
Speaker 1: they're spending all them and football, like you said, makes
Speaker 1: all the money in college sports. It's it's also the
Speaker 1: most expensive program to run. It's why you know where
Speaker 1: I grew up in Northern California, Saint Mary's Santa Clara.
Speaker 1: When I worked for Pat Hill, he played at Riverside.
Speaker 1: Those programs back in the seventies, Pete Carroll played it,
Speaker 1: you know, Piscopic School, Pacific. They all cut football after
Speaker 1: a while because they couldn't afford it. And that's back,
Speaker 1: I mean, they were bare bones. So it just becomes
Speaker 1: how does Washington State or Fresno State or New Mexico
Speaker 1: whose programs forever, I mean they were playing real football,
Speaker 1: how do they survive moving forward? And the answer is
Speaker 1: they just don't. That's just the way kind of business works, right.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at all these new contracts, and you know,
Speaker 2: it really is interesting. I'm totally comfortable with Jordan loves
Speaker 2: and some of it's just this because I fashioned myself
Speaker 2: as a poor man's scout. He's bigger than Tua, he's
Speaker 2: faster than to A, he's got a better arm than
Speaker 2: to A, and Green Bay almost always gets offense, right.
Speaker 2: I really that's my bias, whereas too a smaller don't
Speaker 2: love his arm, not his athletic and Miami screws stuff
Speaker 2: up the two two hundred and twelve million dollars. I'm
Speaker 2: a little uncomfortable with it. I don't think I would
Speaker 2: have gone there. But I think to myself all the
Speaker 2: time what Jay Glazer once said, the worst great job
Speaker 2: in America is being a football coach. Driving to the
Speaker 2: stadium knowing you're going to win six games, and if
Speaker 2: two is upright, you have a chance to win eleven.
Speaker 2: So I just think I trust the Packers, Jordan's bigger, stronger, faster,
Speaker 2: better whip. Where are you on TUA twelve over four years?
Speaker 2: Would you have gone there?
Speaker 1: And one hundred and seventy million dollars guaranteed? Is insane
Speaker 1: to me? I think there's two ways to look at it.
Speaker 1: That contract to me is jaw dropping. I think most
Speaker 1: people that have watched and play go that's crazy. That's
Speaker 1: that's insane because you have no shot to beat any
Speaker 1: of the top quarterbacks who are all in your conference.
Speaker 1: And we just saw last year you were like, what
Speaker 1: were they eight and one or nine and two and
Speaker 1: the other Bills were six and six and they still
Speaker 1: ended up winning the division. Why because Josh Allen translates
Speaker 1: in November, December and January and your guy doesn't. But
Speaker 1: there is value in just being relevant and competing to
Speaker 1: make the wild card everything. Yes, So why can't we
Speaker 1: find some middle ground of like Alex Smith never made
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady money, but like
Speaker 1: he was getting Harbaugh and Andy Reid to the playoffs
Speaker 1: and there was value in him. And now we've got
Speaker 1: to the point of like, well you just gotta make
Speaker 1: this much? Why why couldn't you just offer him Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones money like ninety million dollars guaranteed. You cut that
Speaker 1: guarantee in half. Who are you bidding against the thing
Speaker 1: with Dak? You know if he hit the open market,
Speaker 1: other people would be interested. The Raiders would take him
Speaker 1: into heartbeat like they were. And he's proven like every
Speaker 1: single year you can win twelve games. Toua. It still
Speaker 1: feels like is he even that good? But but he
Speaker 1: clearly you could win with him. You have a good
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. He's a good guy like all the character stuff,
Speaker 1: but his physical flaws one, he's a relic. He's a
Speaker 1: true pocket quarterback, bad athlete. Relative. And I heard you,
Speaker 1: what was your analogy about the furniture with you with
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: I like, I like my quarterbacks like my furniture, big
Speaker 2: and hard to move.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the old school quarterbacks. Anyone that's ever met
Speaker 1: one of these guys, Carson, Palmer, Eli or Peyton. Did
Speaker 1: you see the pictures of Peyton at Team USA practice
Speaker 1: standing next to all these guys that are six seven
Speaker 1: and six ten. He does not look that much smaller
Speaker 1: than any of them. Know, the Mannings are huge. Carson
Speaker 1: Palmer is a giant. Philip Versus is huge. Well, that's
Speaker 1: how to a place. The problem is he's six feet tall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's got a weak arm, so he doesn't translate
Speaker 1: to the winter. Well, he plays in the division with
Speaker 1: cold weather teams. So I just I get investing in him.
Speaker 1: And if you would have said, hey, they signed him
Speaker 1: to a three year, one hundred million dollar deal, and
Speaker 1: they guaranteed every pennon of like, I kind of get it.
Speaker 1: But to pay him enormous money, I think is insane.
Speaker 1: I just don't know. Like when it comes to Jordan Love,
Speaker 1: if you and I pulled every GM we know and
Speaker 1: said who would you take for this next five years,
Speaker 1: Jordan Love or to us all take Jordan, it'd be
Speaker 1: unanimous and it would be one hundred percent. So Jordan
Speaker 1: Love technically signed for less. That's what I just think. Listen,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. That's I'm shortened the Dolphins for
Speaker 1: the next three or four years. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: And here's the other issue. In thirty two years since
Speaker 2: Brett fav arrived, it's been thirty two years since he
Speaker 2: stepped foot. He was a packer. The packer have the
Speaker 2: number one rated offense in the league, second, winning his
Speaker 2: team to New England, and have never in thirty two
Speaker 2: years that I recall, have a bad offensive line. So
Speaker 2: if you look at the ancillary reality of Green Bay,
Speaker 2: Jordan Love will get better protection on average and better
Speaker 2: coaching on average. So Jordan Love got paid less and
Speaker 2: has much better support system. So I mean, Steven Ross
Speaker 2: is one of the richer owners, but do you really
Speaker 2: trust him. He's always been a distracted owner and Miami
Speaker 2: hasn't had a great offensive line since Don Shula. So
Speaker 2: my take is, not only don't I Love to a contract,
Speaker 2: but let's just be honest. Over five years of it,
Speaker 2: he'll have middle of the Paco lines and there's the
Speaker 2: possibility that they won't draft terribly well. I mean Green
Speaker 2: Bay is I said this the other day, like there's
Speaker 2: certain people. Spielberg makes a movie or is involved in something.
Speaker 2: If you go to his like movie page, it's almost
Speaker 2: always good. He doesn't he has B projects. He doesn't
Speaker 2: have any c's like Green Bay. If they had a
Speaker 2: bad season, it's because a quarterback got hurt. I mean,
Speaker 2: there are B two A minus virtually B plus to
Speaker 2: A minus every year in my life So the other
Speaker 2: thing I don't like about Tua is Marino had shula.
Speaker 2: I don't think Mike McDaniels, I guess the way I
Speaker 2: would say it's this. They are about four organizations and
Speaker 2: four ownership groups I just trust implicitly, and Miami's not
Speaker 2: one of them.
Speaker 1: No. I think people often ask like, why have the
Speaker 1: Ravens stayed so consistent over now two and a half decades.
Speaker 1: They've had the same people there forever. So Eric DeCosta,
Speaker 1: who's now in charge, worked for Ozzie Newson for twenty years. Well,
Speaker 1: when you look at the Packers, it's kind of similar.
Speaker 1: Maybe coaches, you know, they go from McCarthy to the floor,
Speaker 1: But Gudakins worked for Ted Thompson, who worked for Ron Wolf.
Speaker 1: I mean, the carryover of the philosophical beliefs of the
Speaker 1: organization have not changed, the non negotiables of what you
Speaker 1: look for in players, the way you develop. Obviously in
Speaker 1: Green Bay they love offensive coaches, and I think when
Speaker 1: you look at Jordan Love, I don't think they get
Speaker 1: enough credit because we just the way our society works,
Speaker 1: were always on to the next for when they pulled
Speaker 1: the trigger on drafting them. I mean it was pretty ugly.
Speaker 1: They got destroyed. You know, Charlie Munger says, if you
Speaker 1: can't handle, you know, the fifty percent downturns, you deserve
Speaker 1: the mediocre returns. Well, they that was ugly. I mean
Speaker 1: it created this weird dynamic with Rogers. It was crazy
Speaker 1: even though Rogers member was coming off that kind of
Speaker 1: weird season their first year. But when they did it
Speaker 1: well three four years later, it's paying off big dividends.
Speaker 1: Now they're still risk involved. But there are still some
Speaker 1: unknown with this player. He's only had eight good games.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you have watched any of
Speaker 1: just I watched a little bit of his press conference
Speaker 1: I think yesterday, and I saw a clip today with
Speaker 1: the NFL networkers there. Just because he's been the backup,
Speaker 1: you haven't really heard. He's pretty impressive, Yes, you just
Speaker 1: as a guy. And yes, his maturity. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh damn, that's this is this has a Mahomes Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: The way he carries himself. And obviously, like you said,
Speaker 1: first off, you have to have the physical. Alex Smith
Speaker 1: checked every box except weak armed. Yeah, you know, he
Speaker 1: had a great arm. He would have been Rogers or something.
Speaker 1: You know, and that's what this guy has. He has
Speaker 1: these physical characteristics, he has the infrastructure around him, and
Speaker 1: then he has the maturity. I I think, you just
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be then Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: two point zero, But how's he not gonna be pretty
Speaker 1: damn good, you know? And that's it's listen my life.
Speaker 1: Joe Montana was a little bit before me. I remember
Speaker 1: as a kid he was more on the Chiefs than
Speaker 1: Steve Young and then Jeff Garcia, who was nowhere near
Speaker 1: as good as those two, but he was still damn
Speaker 1: good going the I think this guy has a chance
Speaker 1: to be like their version of Jeff Garcia, but the
Speaker 1: but actually closer to Rogers are fourth, and that's why
Speaker 1: I think they are. They feel really good. Now he
Speaker 1: got he got seventy five million dollars signing bonus. He
Speaker 1: will get seventy five million dollars. I think it's three
Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars direct deposits between now and like
Speaker 1: mid December. So I mean they're pushing all their chips
Speaker 1: in the middle of the table on this. But I
Speaker 1: think you ask people around the league, any person that
Speaker 1: watch them, if you're a fan, of the Packers, You go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it, I would do it. Where the opposite
Speaker 1: reaction of Tua like, did you need to do this?
Speaker 1: That's that's my question? Did you need to do this?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: They are NBA. You know when NBA team just max
Speaker 1: out guys like you're a forty win team, you have
Speaker 1: to pay this guy to two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: You don't.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm so interested in this, but
Speaker 2: I am. This is my This is kind of my thing.
Speaker 2: I talked to Dave Wants then about this, So this
Speaker 2: is not an opinion by me. This is the truth.
Speaker 2: When when Russell Wilson gets married, he doesn't have ten
Speaker 2: players at the wedding with Ciarra. He's never been wildly
Speaker 2: popular inside of his locker rooms, and he's been good.
Speaker 2: It's like generally good looking, rich guy, beautiful wife. You'd
Speaker 2: be just by you know, just the way the world works,
Speaker 2: you'd be kind of popular.
Speaker 3: He's not.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: We've seen players in Denver, we've seen players in Seattle,
Speaker 2: coaches take shots at Russell. I like him, but he
Speaker 2: comes off to a lot of people as inauthentic. So
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's changed. In fact, he's befriended.
Speaker 2: I've been told Mike Tomlin more than any teammate like
Speaker 2: he's because Tomlin, by the way, is like Russell, wealthy,
Speaker 2: you know, worth seventy five to one hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: or more. So he's befriended you know, Tomlin not a teammate.
Speaker 2: And then here comes Justin Fields, who to the last
Speaker 2: day in Chicago. Despite being the worst fourth quarter quarterback
Speaker 2: in like a decade, players loved him. He's young, he's
Speaker 2: a nice guy, he's supportive, he's secure in himself. He
Speaker 2: just doesn't He's got a Zach Wilson thing. He struggles
Speaker 2: post snapped or read a defense. He just struggles with it.
Speaker 2: He doesn't identify certain things. Zach and Justin I see
Speaker 2: except that. But now Russell's banged up, and Justin's guarantee
Speaker 2: as a great practice player. And here's my thing. You
Speaker 2: look at that Pittsburgh schedule. There are a lot of
Speaker 2: two game losing streaks in it. I mean, if they
Speaker 2: don't get that old line right, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: two game losing streaks. And you tell me, having worked
Speaker 2: for the Eagles, Russell has a two game losing streak,
Speaker 2: and like right now, Justin's crushing it at practice. It's
Speaker 2: a young roster players like Justin. Like, I think that's
Speaker 2: a fascinating potential mess. Do you think they replaced Russ
Speaker 2: or do you think he's been guaranteed a starting spot
Speaker 2: this year?
Speaker 1: I think it's already getting weird. I mean he's already injured.
Speaker 1: It's late July, pulled calf. He feels like a weathered
Speaker 1: guy that's thirty four to thirty five years old, and
Speaker 1: partly is the way he's looked the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I've said forever, if I was a Steeler fan, I
Speaker 1: would want no part of Russell Wilson's starting because we
Speaker 1: high Arthur Smith, who we've seen resurrect Ryan Tannehill's career.
Speaker 1: Now I would say Tanny Hill then a little more accurate.
Speaker 1: This guy's a better athlete. Can you get anything out
Speaker 1: of this player? The other thing in Pittsburgh, what's that
Speaker 1: territory like right by Ohio State. A lot of those
Speaker 1: fans watch justin Fields succeed. Remember the game he had
Speaker 1: against Clemson the playoff game. I think he threw six touchdowns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's stuff there. I would just want to see that guy.
Speaker 1: When I think the Steelers going back even before I
Speaker 1: was born, to throughout my youth to this team. Now,
Speaker 1: they just have guys, guys like when you think football
Speaker 1: players in the like TJ. Watt feels like everyone likes
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward's the man of the year, making Fitzpatrick's like
Speaker 1: one of Saban's favorite players, and it doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: those guys are going to be into this at all
Speaker 1: at all. And the other thing is, let's face it,
Speaker 1: Russell's more of a dink and dunk guy now and
Speaker 1: they have explosive players on that roster. My guess is
Speaker 1: I think we now who knows, We'll see if he
Speaker 1: can by the time within a week and are on
Speaker 1: if he's back at the starter. It would not shock
Speaker 1: me if Justin Fields's starter very early on. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even put week one out of the realm possibility. They're
Speaker 1: not invested into this player. I mean, they're in for
Speaker 1: a million dollars, so it means you can't get a
Speaker 1: player of his status any cheaper.
Speaker 2: I love future bets. So two years ago, Minnesota was
Speaker 2: at like eight and a half and I just sold
Speaker 2: the farm. I said, that is a terrible mistake by Vegas.
Speaker 2: They won thirteen. I think last year, I said, do
Speaker 2: you realize the Rams were at six and a half
Speaker 2: in Vegas? I said, Timeout, they're just an older Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Great offensive coach, great quarterback, one great defensive lineman. Outside
Speaker 2: of Cooper Cup, we don't know what they are, but
Speaker 2: pretty good protection and kind of young on the defensive side.
Speaker 2: I said, Now, Mahomes is better than Stafford, I said,
Speaker 2: but they kind of line up with Kansas City, a
Speaker 2: weaker version. They're winning eight nine games, so the team
Speaker 2: this year, Listen, I don't think they're great. Denver's over
Speaker 2: unders five and a half left tackle, excellent O line
Speaker 2: was rented seventh by PFF. One of their guards is
Speaker 2: top four in the league. Excellent offensive coach, two solid
Speaker 2: NFL running backs, an elite corner in safety. Linebackers move well,
Speaker 2: one good defensive lineman. They drafted an edge rusher that's
Speaker 2: a weakness. Mims could be an excellent two. Courtland's sort
Speaker 2: of a Week one, but two dependable receivers, service sole
Speaker 2: tight ends. If bow Nicks just runs the plays, and
Speaker 2: I do think there's a Drew Brees thing here. They
Speaker 2: can't go seven and ten?
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, that's that'd be a pretty easy overhammer.
Speaker 1: There are some I can't they make the playoffs or
Speaker 1: whatever with the rookie quarterbacks. It's different. Five five and
Speaker 1: a half feels insanely low way looking. I was looking
Speaker 1: on our friends at DraftKings I usually don't do over
Speaker 1: unders because for me to get the juices flowing, you know,
Speaker 1: the numbers got to be like five or ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollars and I don't want to just have it sitting there.
Speaker 1: But I saw something that I'm like, I'm all in
Speaker 1: the Chargers to make the playoffs. Are plus one ten,
Speaker 1: So you are You're not even having to pay a
Speaker 1: vict You're getting plus one odds on this. This is
Speaker 1: the best quarterback he's ever had. They invested in another
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, They're gonna be able to run the ball.
Speaker 1: We know wherever he's gone. They've been good on defense
Speaker 1: wherever they and let's face it, you get to ten
Speaker 1: wins with that quarterback, you're probably the seventh seed. I
Speaker 1: like them a lot more than the Dolphins this year.
Speaker 1: I think that was my favorite. Just long term, I
Speaker 1: think the charges are in the playoffs. I mean, Jim
Speaker 1: Harbaugh has a long history. The other thing is I've
Speaker 1: watched a lot of just Charger content Jim and I
Speaker 1: was around him for a couple of years when I
Speaker 1: kind of got into radio when he was with the Niners,
Speaker 1: and I think early on Stanford s he had this
Speaker 1: huge chip on his shoulder. He was just hard to
Speaker 1: be around. I think, I don't know if it's the
Speaker 1: championship for the last couple years in Michigan, he feels
Speaker 1: a lot lighter. I know, you know, the Spano says,
Speaker 1: he feels a lot easier to be around. And there's
Speaker 1: a looseness like a I don't know if it was insecurity,
Speaker 1: but he just tried to beat this ball in the
Speaker 1: China shot NonStop and it feels looser. But he clearly
Speaker 1: is better at his craft now than he's ever been
Speaker 1: in his entire life. And he's been good at it
Speaker 1: since he started coaching. How are they not really good?
Speaker 1: I actually think if you just go well, I can
Speaker 1: see the Chiefs kind of just cruise control. I don't know.
Speaker 1: They just won the last two Super Bowls. Is it
Speaker 1: out of the wrong possibility they win the division?
Speaker 2: Well, they were favored to win gold. But there's been
Speaker 2: a lot of storylines with Team USA at the Olympics
Speaker 2: in France. Jason Timph hoops tonight. So let's talk Embiid
Speaker 2: who you know, when he comes into the league, there
Speaker 2: was a sign early first couple of years can't play
Speaker 2: it unhealthy. So it's like, uh, oh, biggs get hurt early.
Speaker 2: Biggs usually get hurt often, so he's always had an
Speaker 2: injury history. But most bigs eventually do right, like almost
Speaker 2: all of them, y'aw ming shack just Greg Odin Sam
Speaker 2: Booie couldn't get on the floor, Like it's the position.
Speaker 2: People probably aren't built to last at seven to two,
Speaker 2: you know, or shack size with those feet back. It
Speaker 2: wears out, Like I get it, But Embiid presents something
Speaker 2: else beyond the injuries, and because he is more dynamic
Speaker 2: and more fun to watch than Jokic or a Yiannis,
Speaker 2: and there is a shack component with with better ball
Speaker 2: handling skills. There is also something that I find my
Speaker 2: eyes keep telling me this when I watch the Sixers.
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 2: And the Olympics just heighten this is that they can
Speaker 2: keep running coaches through Philly and teammates through Philly. I
Speaker 2: mean even Ben Simmons for a while, he wasn't All
Speaker 2: Star like his first year right, like Ben did have promise.
Speaker 1: They were good. Is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Embiid really needs to stay closer from the basket,
Speaker 2: so coaches kind of pushed a d out for a
Speaker 2: couple of years. It was like fashionable and Ady didn't
Speaker 2: good shooting from out there. A D said, I want
Speaker 2: to go back, and he has been for two years.
Speaker 1: A monster.
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, the most underrated player in the
Speaker 2: Olympics and the league right now is ad. He is
Speaker 2: just turn the sound down watch you can't if he's
Speaker 2: on the floor. It's like Lebron, you can't take your
Speaker 2: eyes off him. He's dominant. Embiid to me, somebody has
Speaker 2: to just acknowledge fella. Get away from the perimeter. He
Speaker 2: fashions himself or is told that he is such an
Speaker 2: important part sometimes of perimeter basketball. He's big, he's aging,
Speaker 2: he's not as quick. I thought he literally got in
Speaker 2: the way of this offense. I'd seen it in Philly,
Speaker 2: but it was so profound with this team. It bothered me.
Speaker 2: I'm screaming at the TV, get him out of the game.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on Embiid and are any of these valid?
Speaker 2: That I watch him offensively. I know the numbers probably
Speaker 2: say is great, but he can he stops. I just
Speaker 2: feel like he can stop offenses too often.
Speaker 5: So it's both. It's the jump shot and it's the
Speaker 5: ball movement piece. The jump shot piece. This has been
Speaker 5: a consistent story in Embiad's career, especially over the previous
Speaker 5: couple of years. This last year he actually shot the
Speaker 5: ball okay against the Knicks, But like in the previous
Speaker 5: couple of seasons, he would shoot like fifty percent on
Speaker 5: these like mid range pull up jump shots in the
Speaker 5: regular season, but then he'd get in front of Al
Speaker 5: Horford and he couldn't make them like he would he
Speaker 5: would struggle to knock him down in the posts. That
Speaker 5: was a consistent theme, and be you would get to
Speaker 5: the postseason, his jump shot would go away. And one
Speaker 5: of the biggest things that he never built out the
Speaker 5: way Jokic did is those short range shots, the hooks,
Speaker 5: the floaters, all that stuff that like six exactly, and
Speaker 5: those are way more dependable in this kind of setting.
Speaker 5: The second piece of it is learning how to play
Speaker 5: basketball with other people. This is a this is an
Speaker 5: epidemic around the league with certain guys, and we see this.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like this with Luca a little bit
Speaker 5: with more of a perimeter sense, but we see it
Speaker 5: with Embiid where it's like, as long as everything is
Speaker 5: flowing through him and he's deciding every single possession, he
Speaker 5: has this otherworldly value as almost like a force of nature. So,
Speaker 5: for instance, if you took Ad or Bam and you
Speaker 5: put them on last year's Sixers team with Tyrese Maxi,
Speaker 5: they're not as good because you can't just give the
Speaker 5: ball to Ad and Bam like every single possession and
Speaker 5: ask them to determine outcomes. They're not good enough on
Speaker 5: the offensive end of the floor. But when you're actually
Speaker 5: playing with people other good basketball players, and this will
Speaker 5: be really interesting this year with Paul George now in
Speaker 5: the equation when you actually need to keep everybody in
Speaker 5: rhythm and there's ball in player movement, and Be for
Speaker 5: lack of a better term, sucks at that style of basketball.
Speaker 5: He doesn't know how to play quick decision making flowing
Speaker 5: from side to side, and especially at the center position
Speaker 5: in modern NBA basketball, when you play five out, the
Speaker 5: center is the bridge between the two sides of the floor.
Speaker 5: He's the guy who has to catch and turn and
Speaker 5: go to the other guard and flow on the other side.
Speaker 5: So when you're trying to keep Booker and Steph and
Speaker 5: Lebron and all these guys in rhythm at the same time,
Speaker 5: it's better to have a guy like Ad who his
Speaker 5: entire life has been a screen and roll big. He's
Speaker 5: going to pitch the ball to the other side, set
Speaker 5: a screen, roll hard to the rim, run up and
Speaker 5: down the floor, and transition. It's a foot speed thing.
Speaker 5: It's a decision making thing. You put him in this
Speaker 5: setting and it's just a completely different kind of basketball
Speaker 5: than what he was doing for the Sixers last year.
Speaker 5: And it's quite frankly, he has years of needing to
Speaker 5: learn how to play that style if he's ever gonna
Speaker 5: play in more of a five out, read and react
Speaker 5: type of system.
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Speaker 2: So during copa team a struggled and I not to
Speaker 2: make an excuse or defend Greg Berhalt or the coach
Speaker 2: at the time, but our style is more European. We
Speaker 2: have more players now soccer players in America playing in
Speaker 2: Europe and flourishing. So COPA is a smaller, shorter field.
Speaker 2: It didn't play to our space, our strength, which is
Speaker 2: speed and spacing. So as we've become more skilled and
Speaker 2: more European, which is the Goldwyn World Cup, COPA has
Speaker 2: become a bad tournament for US, which is a grittier,
Speaker 2: lower ranked teams, more physical soccer. Similarly, Steph with FIBA
Speaker 2: three point shooting is almost it plays with your head.
Speaker 2: It's closer, it's more physical, you don't get the whistle,
Speaker 2: more physicality allowed. And as I watch Steph struggle, it's
Speaker 2: not like Tatum struggling. It's not a confidence issue. It's
Speaker 2: a is it possible that FIBA Olympic basketball isn't really
Speaker 2: it's not really built necessarily for Steph all the time.
Speaker 2: I mean, Lebron's good everywhere, but as stuff struggles, I'm
Speaker 2: how do I reconcile that he's a great shooter. It's
Speaker 2: closer he should be shooting the lights out, he's not.
Speaker 5: Why so Sudan in particular, and I think their reputation
Speaker 5: obviously that them as an organization within FIBA don't have
Speaker 5: the reputation of the other great European teams or South
Speaker 5: American teams that we faced over the years, Like even
Speaker 5: back in the old days when it was like Argentina,
Speaker 5: you know that that was or France that was given
Speaker 5: his issues, they don't have that history. But I think
Speaker 5: South Sudan is the most athletic team in this field
Speaker 5: by far, Like they have just an enormous amount of
Speaker 5: fast dudes with really long wingspans. They're athletic by NBA standards,
Speaker 5: let alone by FEBA standards. And so what if you
Speaker 5: remember last year when Golden State needed to get some
Speaker 5: big wins down the stretch of the season, the two
Speaker 5: teams that were giving them a lot of trouble were
Speaker 5: Sacramento and New Orleans, two teams that were really fast
Speaker 5: and really long on the perimeter. And that's like kind
Speaker 5: of one of those things whereas Steph has aged, he's
Speaker 5: become a little bit susceptible to specific types of matchups,
Speaker 5: particularly teams that are that are closing those gaps on him.
Speaker 5: And then the piece you mentioned about spacing is real,
Speaker 5: Like the lack of a defensive three seconds is a
Speaker 5: real thing that people aren't factoring in. So I put
Speaker 5: it simply, the vast majority of teams, when they're spacing,
Speaker 5: will put their big man on the opposite block from
Speaker 5: where the ball is, and so with defensive three seconds,
Speaker 5: that defender has to step in and out of the
Speaker 5: lane on the far end of the court, whereas in
Speaker 5: FIBA he can park his ass right underneath the basket
Speaker 5: and he doesn't have to move at all whatsoever. And
Speaker 5: so this, by the way, is why I'm far more
Speaker 5: concerned about teams like Germany and France or even Serbia
Speaker 5: against USA than a team like Canada who just doesn't
Speaker 5: have the bigs to deal with USA underneath the basket.
Speaker 5: Teams that can park big bodies under the rim can
Speaker 5: force you to make jump shots. And as soon as
Speaker 5: you force a team to make jump shots, they can
Speaker 5: go cold, they can have issues, which is what happening
Speaker 5: in South Sudan last time. But yeah, as far as
Speaker 5: Steph goes like he, I mean, we let's put it.
Speaker 5: Let's put it straight up, Colin. He struggled most of
Speaker 5: the tail end of the season last year too, so
Speaker 5: this is an extension of that. And I'm really hoping
Speaker 5: as a basketball fan that this is just a blip
Speaker 5: and he's going to figure it out, because I really
Speaker 5: want the Warriors to be interesting next year.
Speaker 2: You know, when you have a bunch of kids. I
Speaker 2: have six in my life, the early years can be
Speaker 2: frustrating and a lot of work. But what's fascinating about
Speaker 2: the early years is kids make giants social and emotional
Speaker 2: and physical leaps in nine months. I mean, my son
Speaker 2: had a biting stage, he had a coughing stage where
Speaker 2: he would make coughing noises, and I always told my wife,
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's just just nine year old boys go
Speaker 2: through weird, weird you know sizes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just do.
Speaker 2: Like And I want to use that as sort of
Speaker 2: a pivot to watching young NBA players, is that when
Speaker 2: they're eighteen nineteen twenty, the players just come back of
Speaker 2: an off and off season and you're like, damn, he
Speaker 2: got a joke. So I'm watching Wemby and I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm watching a kid grow, Like I'm watching him
Speaker 2: in some of these games and I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is terrifying for the league. Like he you go to
Speaker 2: his first month in the league, and now Jason offensively,
Speaker 2: he plays with so much more confidence. Defensively, he's blocking
Speaker 2: stuff with his elbow. He is now way more aggressive
Speaker 2: and asserting himself. And I'm watching this and I'm like
Speaker 2: I said, by the trade deadline, I said this on
Speaker 2: our previous podcast, By the trade deadline, he and Ann
Speaker 2: will be the faces of the league. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: it's going to take that long. Like, Jokich is still
Speaker 2: the best player. His ability to not only dominate but
Speaker 2: compliment other players and elevate them, it kind of separates
Speaker 2: Lebron's magic certain guys. I would say Michael didn't make
Speaker 2: everybody better, not every teammate, Lebron Magic, Jokic, Chris Paul,
Speaker 2: every teammate's better. You play your best with him, And
Speaker 2: now we get Chris Paul with Wemby. But I'm watching
Speaker 2: him and maybe it's maybe I don't see him as
Speaker 2: much as you do. I'm seeing major jumps from Wemby
Speaker 2: even in these Olympics.
Speaker 5: No. Absolutely, they've been running a lot more offense through
Speaker 5: him than you would expect. And a big part of
Speaker 5: that is France doesn't have an amazing guard corps like
Speaker 5: Evan Fournier is their best guard, a guy who couldn't
Speaker 5: crack the rotation for the Micks last year, right, So, like,
Speaker 5: but what they're doing in a lot of cases is
Speaker 5: they're feeding him at the elbow and they're like running
Speaker 5: literally ball screens like the way you would typically with
Speaker 5: a point guard in a center. They're running with him
Speaker 5: and gobaer at the foul line, and they're letting him
Speaker 5: determine the outcome of possessions. They're throwing it to him
Speaker 5: down on the blocks. He's become a lot quicker at
Speaker 5: like reading the floor and making reads then I would
Speaker 5: expect a player at his age. And part of this
Speaker 5: I think has a lot to do with him playing
Speaker 5: professionally as opposed to coming up through the college system,
Speaker 5: Like he's just been around a lot of really smart
Speaker 5: basketball minds in his development. The big one to me
Speaker 5: that stands out is the dude is just a savage
Speaker 5: competitor and is not scared of the moment. Like he
Speaker 5: was kind of on the back burner for a good
Speaker 5: portion of that second half against Japan, and then it
Speaker 5: went to ot and he just took over. Immediately was
Speaker 5: demanding the ball in the block, got an and one,
Speaker 5: he missed a three on the right wing, and then
Speaker 5: immediately called for the ball back and knocked one down
Speaker 5: at the top of the key. He's got like just
Speaker 5: incredible scoring polish all over the floor. He's handling physicality
Speaker 5: really really well. Obviously you mentioned the defensive stuff, even
Speaker 5: it's hard to even describe. It doesn't even look like
Speaker 5: other NBA players that have come before him.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 5: I think I think we got to think long and
Speaker 5: hard about him being a top ten player right now,
Speaker 5: right now, and then I think right and I think
Speaker 5: by the deadline next year, we could be talking about
Speaker 5: a guy who's who's second team All NBA. Like this
Speaker 5: is a real, a real potential outcome for him. In
Speaker 5: the short term.
Speaker 2: You put a bunch of alphas together, and some alphas
Speaker 2: will shrink and some alphas will rise. Lebron is now
Speaker 2: the best player on this team. It's like it's now,
Speaker 2: it's gone past. But what's interesting is that Nick Wright
Speaker 2: said this to me today on the show in FS one.
Speaker 2: He said, deep down, Lebron may realize these are the
Speaker 2: last games of his career that people are really gonna watch,
Speaker 2: like have a huge audience and are gonna matter and listen.
Speaker 2: You and I have been critical of the executive wing
Speaker 2: of the Lakers, AD and Lebron on any given game
Speaker 2: that I've watched Team USA are the two best players
Speaker 2: and they're struggling to win a playoff game. It's really frustrating.
Speaker 2: There's Jeremy Grant may come to town. He would be
Speaker 2: a solid three, a better a four on a really,
Speaker 2: really good team. He's probably a four, not a three.
Speaker 2: But be that as it may. But I as I
Speaker 2: watched Lebron, what it tells me is he's not having
Speaker 2: to fight to be the alpha. He is so respected
Speaker 2: that other young players are like, hey, big fella, you
Speaker 2: run the offense. I mean, I mean like Magic and
Speaker 2: Michael when they went together, they were fighting. They Magic
Speaker 2: didn't want to give up the baton, Michael grabbed it,
Speaker 2: like even Ant. All these guys, it's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: this is Lebron's. This is Lebron's world. And I know
Speaker 2: you're not surprised by it, but it it does jump
Speaker 2: out of the TV, does it not.
Speaker 5: I'm glad everyone's seeing it too. First of all, to
Speaker 5: what Nick said, I agree. I think Lebron has always
Speaker 5: been very aware of the narrative surrounding him, and I
Speaker 5: think that he saw an opportunity here to be like,
Speaker 5: if I am the best player on Team USA, it
Speaker 5: will resonate with people for a long time. And for
Speaker 5: the record, I think Lebron came right out of the
Speaker 5: season and started prepping forward. He looks like he's in
Speaker 5: great shape, and.
Speaker 2: Man, he is flexing every other time down the floor.
Speaker 5: I know, like he's he clearly prepped for this as
Speaker 5: though it was an NBA playoff run. Like that is
Speaker 5: abundantly clear. And he and he's and he's playing at
Speaker 5: that crazy high level. I'm glad you mentioned the Lakers
Speaker 5: because like so many people are like, oh, they're they're
Speaker 5: a playing team. They're this, they're that, and it's like, guys,
Speaker 5: the reason they're a playing team is they don't have
Speaker 5: a single player on the roster other than Lebron and
Speaker 5: AD who can play both ends of the floor. That's
Speaker 5: literally why they've struggled. It is a personnel issue. It
Speaker 5: is not a Lebron James and Anthony Davis issue. Those
Speaker 5: two pull their weight. They pulled their weight in a
Speaker 5: major way last season, and the organization is what let
Speaker 5: them down. And so I don't really see it that way.
Speaker 5: As far as as far as Lebron with his team
Speaker 5: USA context, what's been super fascinating from a basketball perspective
Speaker 5: is what you're seeing is what it would look like
Speaker 5: to run five out offense with all the ball and
Speaker 5: player movements, Steph lying off of screens with the best
Speaker 5: playmaker of this era, kind of orchestrating it at the
Speaker 5: top of the key. He's not taking a ton of shots.
Speaker 5: He's seeing his openings and he's shooting the gap and
Speaker 5: he's attacking the basket right, but they're they're ducking under
Speaker 5: all those picks at the top of the key. He's
Speaker 5: not jacking up threes and hijacking possessions. He's just reading
Speaker 5: the floor as Steph is running around and as Devin
Speaker 5: Booker's running around and waiting for guys to make mistakes.
Speaker 5: One of the most classic decisions that you'll see from
Speaker 5: that part of the floor is Steph runs off a
Speaker 5: screen and the guy screens for him. If those defenders
Speaker 5: make a mistake, that guy can slip it, and Lebron
Speaker 5: is just making reads based on what the mistake the
Speaker 5: defense has made. And so it's kind of like a
Speaker 5: juiced up version of Draymond with the Warriors, but surrounded
Speaker 5: by all of these, you know, world class types of players,
Speaker 5: and it's been the perfect role for him and then
Speaker 5: quite frankly, to your point, and this is where it
Speaker 5: gets really scary, Colin. I would argue, KD and Lebron
Speaker 5: and Steph have been the only consistent offensive forces on
Speaker 5: this team, and we've been disappointed by Jason Tatum. Anthony
Speaker 5: Edwards has given us some mixed results. There's been good games,
Speaker 5: there's been bad games. I think it's just a bad
Speaker 5: look that here in the year twenty twenty four, Steph,
Speaker 5: Lebron and KD are playing the way they are and
Speaker 5: the younger generation is struggling to keep up. It's like,
Speaker 5: thank God for a band being as good as they've been,
Speaker 5: because it's just been It's been a disappointing performance from
Speaker 5: some of the younger American players.
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