Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Jean Merriman a one hand effect.
Speaker 1: Boom boom boom, out go the light. This is Lights
Speaker 1: Out with Sean Merriman. What's up? Guys, were back again
Speaker 1: with another Lights out podcast with me Seawan Merriman. UM
Speaker 1: got one of my favorite guys. Used to watch and
Speaker 1: play against UH in the National Football League. I tell it,
Speaker 1: UH two times Super Bowl chain with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: Also played for one of my favorite coaches and Bill Kaward. Um.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to play for Bill, by the way.
Speaker 1: And we're just gonna get into man, a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. One thing that I saw
Speaker 1: to come up as recently is he is in the
Speaker 1: combat sports. This was a cool thing for me to see.
Speaker 1: I know he's been training a little bit. Um. He
Speaker 1: got his new cigar line dropping out to I know,
Speaker 1: I let him talk a little bit about that. But
Speaker 1: most importantly, man, he he played UH in the time
Speaker 1: of football where it was different. Right, you can go
Speaker 1: out and have these big hits and not as many
Speaker 1: penalties and flags. And you know, we we played in
Speaker 1: that era of football. And also we'll get into a
Speaker 1: little bit about the seventeen game regular season schedule now
Speaker 1: and and how that affects with everybody. So I tell her,
Speaker 1: what's up? Am I do? Man? Chilling? How you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm good man? What's up with you? Yeah? Yeah? Now
Speaker 1: you know we're working, man, we're working. Um are we
Speaker 1: trying to get that get my mm A league back
Speaker 1: up and going right now too? You know, because I
Speaker 1: trained a couple still train a couple of days with
Speaker 1: with a lot of the m m A guys from
Speaker 1: my league and these cats out here. So you uh
Speaker 1: you you you're gonna do an exciting you just trained? No,
Speaker 1: you know, so I got my league. We're on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports right now. So Fox Sports picked us up like
Speaker 1: not not this past pay but the May before that,
Speaker 1: and then we got we've been shut down since since
Speaker 1: the pandemic. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Hey, I
Speaker 1: remember you getting into a couple of couple of you know,
Speaker 1: a little calm as though I remember you being about
Speaker 1: it to this to this day. So I took on boxing,
Speaker 1: so I actually, uh actually be spawn. So have you
Speaker 1: have you thought about like really really doing it though
Speaker 1: you're just kind of doing it to stay in shape.
Speaker 1: I'll do it to stay in shape. But I actually like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I can actually fight. This is like
Speaker 1: now I know how to fight. So at first I thought,
Speaker 1: at first, you know, at first I just like to fight.
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, Okay, I really know how to fight.
Speaker 1: So I really I really be spawn. So I'll be
Speaker 1: going to Houston a lot to go spawn my home
Speaker 1: with my home. But reisprogriate, he's a well to wait.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, yeah, so that's my daughter from New Orleans.
Speaker 1: But yeah, as far as like spawn, i'd be sporing,
Speaker 1: I'll be spawn and that that boxing or mm A, man,
Speaker 1: it's your mind gotta be all the way different, bro,
Speaker 1: all the way different, all the way. And I tell
Speaker 1: so many cats about this. Right, so we already come
Speaker 1: from a background where we're strong, we're fast, we explosive
Speaker 1: that of it. So we were already walking into the
Speaker 1: ring or the cage, were already coordinated, right, so we're
Speaker 1: not going to step it over our left feed up.
Speaker 1: We gotta learn how to pivot and do all the
Speaker 1: something that we already got. That it's really learning the
Speaker 1: fact of sitting on your punch or turning over on
Speaker 1: your punch, right stepping into your jab and just learning,
Speaker 1: learning the craft. So I'm interested. Man, how was that
Speaker 1: what made you kind of transitioning and trying not to sport.
Speaker 1: I'm always been a fan of it. I wish I
Speaker 1: would have did it. I wish I would have trained
Speaker 1: more in the off season because I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Sean like training training for a comeback sport is. We
Speaker 1: say football is mental, but this, this, this, this is
Speaker 1: all the way mental like it is is. Then I
Speaker 1: really gotta do trying to knock me out. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. There is no helmet, there is no
Speaker 1: path there, there there is nothing like this is really
Speaker 1: a comeback sport. So I said, man, let me try
Speaker 1: and let me try to stay in shape. So I
Speaker 1: did it a few times. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever heard of the Pittsburgh kid of boxer Paul's batter
Speaker 1: four so back in the day, coming out of coming
Speaker 1: out of Pittsburg, like he was a real deal before
Speaker 1: he got into some trouble. He was real deal, like
Speaker 1: he spoiled Mayweather, zab Judith, like he was that guy.
Speaker 1: I said, man, let me, let me, let me just
Speaker 1: try boxing, try boxing, because I wanted to get in
Speaker 1: a different kind of shape. And I was like, man, like,
Speaker 1: football shaping and fighting shape is two different shapes. Like
Speaker 1: I can go into a football game knowing I'm in
Speaker 1: boxing shape anything anything. So I started sporing, like two
Speaker 1: thousand and five, that's when I started sporing, but I
Speaker 1: ain't really get into it to like two thousand and fourteen.
Speaker 1: But once I got into it, I was all the
Speaker 1: way in it when I when I retired, I was
Speaker 1: all the way into boxing. So you know, it's it's different, bro,
Speaker 1: Like people can say what it won't say it m
Speaker 1: m A and comeback fighting and boxing it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not just how we say football ain't built for everybody.
Speaker 1: You can you can step that up about three more
Speaker 1: notches between M M A and in boxing, it's not
Speaker 1: for everybody, bro. As you you gotta love punching somebody
Speaker 1: in the face. You gotta love giving pain and getting
Speaker 1: pain back on you. You You gott you gotta love it
Speaker 1: because if you don't love it, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: get your's knocked out. So that's that's what I love
Speaker 1: about it. Like pain was never an issue for me.
Speaker 1: I just had learned the art of boxing. You know,
Speaker 1: the breathing, the the the taking the hits and in
Speaker 1: the face and the building up the calysis in a body.
Speaker 1: Like you know, you just gotta get used in it
Speaker 1: and absorb pain. You gotta have a poker face when
Speaker 1: it hurts. But you can't show you opponent that it hurts.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a little bit different, you know. You know, if you know,
Speaker 1: if you're start the football and you get the wind
Speaker 1: knocked out of your more they go to a commercial break,
Speaker 1: m m m may a bunch you man, you gotta
Speaker 1: move around the ring and show and show your opponent,
Speaker 1: which you're gonna see it anyway, but show them it
Speaker 1: really don't hurt. Like the mindset all the way different,
Speaker 1: different when it comes to it. Bro and I say
Speaker 1: this all time because we're so used to in football
Speaker 1: and it's and it's not a bad thing, it's just
Speaker 1: what we're used to doing that we're so like bottled
Speaker 1: up with energy and spurts of energy her and using
Speaker 1: me in strength. But in boxing and m m ay,
Speaker 1: that can hurt you, right because you use all your
Speaker 1: strength and you go through a big flur and you
Speaker 1: throw all your jabs, or you go to take somebody
Speaker 1: down it and they get out of it, or they
Speaker 1: survive it and then you gassed. Right, So that was
Speaker 1: like for me one of the because I'm a strong dude,
Speaker 1: you know, in the gym, in the weight room, but
Speaker 1: that don't matter. Right you get in there, it don't
Speaker 1: matter and you see somebody that is half your side
Speaker 1: or whatever. But they learn how to turn on their
Speaker 1: punches or they learn how to turn on their kicks,
Speaker 1: and they learn how to open their hips up and
Speaker 1: do certain things. And now you sitting around like how
Speaker 1: how they do that? It's the art broke, And you know,
Speaker 1: fight for three minutes, it's a long time. Fight for
Speaker 1: three minutes for fifteen rounds. Like I can fight for
Speaker 1: fifteen rounds for three minutes now now because I've learned
Speaker 1: the art and how to conserve my energy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like back in the day, it's like
Speaker 1: what you said, like right right, right right, it was
Speaker 1: more man, let me, let me let all this test
Speaker 1: starts to grow out a sound. But the size didn't matter,
Speaker 1: speed didn't matter. And you know, I'm a huge Bruce
Speaker 1: Lee fan and one of his favorite sayings worldwide is
Speaker 1: be like water, you know what I'm saying. So like water,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you gotta adapt to whatever whatever you're
Speaker 1: surrounding is. You gotta adapt that. Just like water. You
Speaker 1: can put water in think it's gonna form itself up,
Speaker 1: whatever the shape is. And that's what you gotta be
Speaker 1: when it comes to come back fight, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's that's how I kind of portrayed it.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I put into my repertoire. But yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: this's it's it's it's difficult man, and and it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not for everybody, it's not. So do you do
Speaker 1: you ever see yourself either one day taking up because
Speaker 1: I had a p on. I had Adrian a like
Speaker 1: I think about a month ago. He said, when he's done, man,
Speaker 1: he definitely wanna if not a charity boxing match, you
Speaker 1: definitely want to do some amateur stuff whatever, because he
Speaker 1: was boxing too. Do you ever see yourself possibly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to do I want to do one professional fight.
Speaker 1: I want to do I want to do one. And
Speaker 1: this dude don't really even know it, but I've been
Speaker 1: watching him for a minute a minute, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you heard of you heard of Kendall gild the
Speaker 1: basketball player. I think he's three and no in pressional
Speaker 1: fighting and people don't need people don't even know it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, but he's one of
Speaker 1: the athletes that you know, turned over into a comback
Speaker 1: fighting and wind up being successful at it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a few, it's it's a few guys, and and
Speaker 1: not a matter of fact, I saw be Marshall, you know,
Speaker 1: I saw him train, and I'm willing to spark. I'm
Speaker 1: willing to spark anybody. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: that so you so you're saying right now, Beat Marshall
Speaker 1: wanted to get in the ring. You're with it? Oh
Speaker 1: yeah like that that that that don't that don't that
Speaker 1: don't matter. I want you your mind set gotta be different. Bro.
Speaker 1: Hitting the bag is cool, yeah, but actually getting in
Speaker 1: the ring is this. And you know this, like you've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of practice players like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: this two hits practice all Stars, Pro Bowl practice players.
Speaker 1: But then when you see him getting the game, it's like, damn, man,
Speaker 1: what happened? You know what I'm saying, No, not to it, right,
Speaker 1: you know, So the same thing in in and in
Speaker 1: boxing or comeback sports, like damn, but up was hitting
Speaker 1: the bag something decent. But okay, let's put him in
Speaker 1: the ring. Put him in the ring. No show nothing.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh lor merchant man, let's bro, bro stick
Speaker 1: to the bang, right, Yeah, that's all I mean with anybody,
Speaker 1: because because if you know the bag the bag, and
Speaker 1: half you feeling, you know, feeling all like you can box,
Speaker 1: you can fight. You ask me, oh yeah, yeah box
Speaker 1: and said listen, man, that's that's that's a whole different
Speaker 1: that's a whole different ball. That's for show stuff. Man.
Speaker 1: You would to go in and you know, get stay
Speaker 1: in shape or something, but that's not really fighting. That
Speaker 1: bagging him back? Sure you know what? Right? Like that
Speaker 1: that that bag? Ain't that bag? That bagging And then
Speaker 1: when you find somebody bore the same mindset as you,
Speaker 1: was like and the mindset gotta be like to the
Speaker 1: death of this, you know. That's how the mindset is
Speaker 1: a back sports to the to the death. But is
Speaker 1: and you you gotta think you gotta train like, ain't
Speaker 1: no referees. So that's our train. Ain't no referees. About
Speaker 1: to stop this. I don't want to run. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Once you once you get a mud
Speaker 1: say like, ain't no referees man, it's it's it's to
Speaker 1: the depth show. So that's that's what that's where I'm
Speaker 1: met with. So I said, I said, I'm gonna wait
Speaker 1: till my son here in the eighth grade. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wait until you get to high school and get established,
Speaker 1: and then yeah I go, I go one one professional.
Speaker 1: But yeah, far as like spun man, I getting the
Speaker 1: ring with anybody. I'm gonna stat that up too. Is
Speaker 1: I know, to be marsh looking for work. But hey,
Speaker 1: so one thing I want to ask you though too,
Speaker 1: because y'all the teams y'all had back when you were playing,
Speaker 1: y'all had some dogs. Man. I'm like, and I know
Speaker 1: we all and I hate seeming like the old guy
Speaker 1: that's like, oh yeah, the league saw me. Every everybody
Speaker 1: knows the league is different, right, They change the rules,
Speaker 1: you know, no helmet, you know, we get that part
Speaker 1: of it. But I think the different type of cats.
Speaker 1: I mean, y'are Joey you know, uh, Joey Porter and all.
Speaker 1: You know, Casey hamp y'all had some like some real
Speaker 1: bona fide dogs. Man, and tell me, tell me about that.
Speaker 1: Tell me about them teams you played on, man, And
Speaker 1: do you still keep in contact with some of them? Guys?
Speaker 1: I got two, I got two Group Texas. We got
Speaker 1: the old five Super Bowl, and we got the two
Speaker 1: thousand nine, two thousand and eight Super Bowl. And it's
Speaker 1: around it's around twenty guys for group. Text on my
Speaker 1: phone always going dead because we're always texting each other, right, um,
Speaker 1: and our kids called you know each other uncles. But
Speaker 1: for me, it was they brainwashed me. Like my linebackers
Speaker 1: and you play linebackers. My linebackers brainwashed me. My linebackers
Speaker 1: felt at one point in time, knocking somebody else was
Speaker 1: better than catching the interception at the cornerback position. Like, man,
Speaker 1: we just need you to come but on this rush support,
Speaker 1: I need you to take the soul of another grown
Speaker 1: man like that was the model in the locker room.
Speaker 1: Take the soul another grown man. And how you do that.
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Speaker 1: Search as are to listen. Live. You keep chopping that
Speaker 1: tree down, keep hitting hit him as I don't care
Speaker 1: what the size is, hit him as hard as you can,
Speaker 1: as long as you can. For the whole folk quarters,
Speaker 1: he gonna volte. So and that was you know, James
Speaker 1: Harrison and and Lamar Woodley and George Porter and Clark
Speaker 1: Hagen Hagan's and James and Larry Foot and Lawrence Simmons
Speaker 1: and vice. When you do Bryan shape them, get them
Speaker 1: the youngsters. Man, if you play line back and for
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh still as you your whole your whole mindset
Speaker 1: is run through a brick wall. And I think twice
Speaker 1: about it, like we we love coming to the sideline
Speaker 1: and saying I got a body, like damn, bro you
Speaker 1: you knocked him out, Like yeah, put a put a body,
Speaker 1: put a body on my resume. Yeah I got one
Speaker 1: like that. That was the whole thing in Pitts put
Speaker 1: a body on the resume. So and that's just that
Speaker 1: that that kind of brainwatched secondary. So we we felt
Speaker 1: the same way. But it started with Lynebacks like man,
Speaker 1: put a body on the resume. And to this day,
Speaker 1: you know, like you say, the rules have changed, so
Speaker 1: you gotta ad just you gottad just to the rule change,
Speaker 1: and I was, I was, I was part of that
Speaker 1: rule curving a little bit, you know, to not being
Speaker 1: as aggressive, um protecting the players. But now we're going
Speaker 1: to seventeen games. I'm like, oh, we're really protecting the players,
Speaker 1: Like y'all saying I'm taking a preseason game out, but
Speaker 1: y'all doing seventeen. And I just saw the TV, the
Speaker 1: TV deal you know, for a hundred something billion dollars,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, So we really and
Speaker 1: in three more years at the rate and go up,
Speaker 1: y'all gonna restructure that TV deal to make eight teams.
Speaker 1: So y'all gonna say two prevas, two preseason games and
Speaker 1: you know, eight team games. So you're really protecting the
Speaker 1: play That's That's That's how I look at from a
Speaker 1: from a player standpoint, from a business standpoint as our owner,
Speaker 1: I get it. But you know how it is like
Speaker 1: they changed the rules so they're able to do that now.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, how we played showing that that's
Speaker 1: what So that that's my whole thing, right, and I
Speaker 1: know the game is different and they don't have you know,
Speaker 1: back to back to back two of days and lining
Speaker 1: up in Oklahoma drills. And I'm sure Bill Coward had
Speaker 1: you know, had you guys at the time doing doing that.
Speaker 1: I mean he was, you know, and he had in
Speaker 1: him and marget Shot and haw More friends. They had
Speaker 1: kind of the same type of mentality. You couldn't the
Speaker 1: way we played the game back then, reckless with our bodies.
Speaker 1: You can't move it to a seventeen game season because no,
Speaker 1: guys that you talk about head stuff, you know, CT
Speaker 1: and traumas and tears and pools and everything else. Joints,
Speaker 1: guys have been completely done. Killer head, a body and
Speaker 1: father that was That was a whole defense on on
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Killer head and a body and father, you know,
Speaker 1: and people people talk about c t s. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I really knew how to play football when I got
Speaker 1: to the league. Y'all gotta understand, we've been playing football
Speaker 1: since it was small. So picture all the coaches who
Speaker 1: didn't know any better, who was growing up as youngsters,
Speaker 1: like is the CT just caught up with you when
Speaker 1: you was in a lady like you get to the
Speaker 1: league and you finally understand how to tackle. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, and that's why I'll be telling
Speaker 1: people like man, they'd be like, how you feel about
Speaker 1: the ct s in the brain? I said, all this
Speaker 1: happened move was young. This ain't really happened when we
Speaker 1: got to lead. This just this just was a build
Speaker 1: up while I was playing. If you was playing part
Speaker 1: one and you then you went to middle school, then
Speaker 1: with the high school so pitched on the coaches. School
Speaker 1: really just didn't know no better. They had their old
Speaker 1: school man talented. You finally get to the league, you
Speaker 1: finally learned how to tackle. Really you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But brain wise, it's too late. And then that's how
Speaker 1: we we we that's how we learned correct, right you
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, we learned by going out
Speaker 1: catching the body. You catch the guy coming across the
Speaker 1: middle or doing that. And I got one right. And
Speaker 1: normally if you're knocking somebody out, you're ninety five percent
Speaker 1: of the time you're using your head. So for me,
Speaker 1: like when I got to the league, that I was
Speaker 1: already it will see, man, if that's how I played
Speaker 1: the game, and nothing's gonna change. So I'm glad that
Speaker 1: I was out at the at the right time because
Speaker 1: I would have been playing for free, you know, like
Speaker 1: they the game checks with the right from me every
Speaker 1: game all day. Like how we used to play Man,
Speaker 1: we probably would have played for games or of the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we probably would have played the max six maybe eight.
Speaker 1: But how we played then, when I get it, man,
Speaker 1: my son played and he's a he's probably one of
Speaker 1: the best tacklers. I haven't seen fourteen. How does how did? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's it's I get it, and I respect that
Speaker 1: you gotta adjust, you know, to to your surround is
Speaker 1: in the down. So I get that part. But how
Speaker 1: we played, bro, like you said, we would have been
Speaker 1: playing free, And our motto was, you know, either take
Speaker 1: the soul out of grown man a killer head and
Speaker 1: body the funck yep, does your son take on him
Speaker 1: and tap? My son Timmy played he played football, but
Speaker 1: he played quarterback and and like safety. He's like he's
Speaker 1: not the same mentality as me, as you know, he's
Speaker 1: more like like Gronk or something like that. He has
Speaker 1: that mentality. He didn't have my mentality. Your son have
Speaker 1: your mentality at all if you see that in him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my son is one. He's a superior athlete. So he's
Speaker 1: way more athletic than I ever was at the age
Speaker 1: of fourteen. Yeah too. He wants to create his own legacy,
Speaker 1: so and he wanted so he plays safety receiver. But
Speaker 1: you know, down here in Florida, these kids feel like
Speaker 1: there was born and play football. That that that that
Speaker 1: that's that's if you look at the NFL roster and
Speaker 1: looking at the top guys coming from one state or county,
Speaker 1: either Dade County, Broward County, or Hollywood, Florida like them
Speaker 1: them them guys, them guys coming from around here. And
Speaker 1: that's all myself, me playing around. So he he has
Speaker 1: to understand fast, like I gotta be a dog a
Speaker 1: sound right. So he's very aggressive on defense. He's probably
Speaker 1: even more aggressive going to get the ball on on
Speaker 1: on offense. So that's that's what I love about this
Speaker 1: Florida mentality around here. So we I'm from the Orders
Speaker 1: and we talked about all the time, like between the
Speaker 1: Orleans and Miami guys, we feel like we're the same
Speaker 1: kind of people, you know. So I just instilled that
Speaker 1: in myself. Had to grow up in the locker room.
Speaker 1: So you know, his uncle's told him, you know how
Speaker 1: his mentality should it be, and some guys take a
Speaker 1: liking to it and some kids don't. I'm just glad
Speaker 1: my son took a liking to it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm just very fortunate, you know, for
Speaker 1: if for this generation. And I think you would agree,
Speaker 1: it's more of the work. Like even though my son
Speaker 1: got it all, he don't feel entightened. So he always
Speaker 1: feels like he wanted to work harder than any other kid,
Speaker 1: you know. And I said, Bro, that's gonna take you.
Speaker 1: I said, yes, sir, Yes, ma'am. And working harder than
Speaker 1: anybody else gonna take you a long way. And like,
Speaker 1: you know, so that's that's that's what he had with it. Man,
Speaker 1: I tell him all the time. Man, God dropped me
Speaker 1: an angel when it came to you, because you just
Speaker 1: make me and a parent easy. And I'm a proud
Speaker 1: for that. When the couch down talking about my son, No,
Speaker 1: you got to man, and and and I don't know
Speaker 1: what your situation was, but my dad wasn't, you know,
Speaker 1: really around with me growing up. So now that you know,
Speaker 1: I'm around my my son, he plays ball, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I talked to him about you know, the concussions.
Speaker 1: I talked to him about the right with the play.
Speaker 1: But he has such mentality, man, that that DNA is
Speaker 1: a different animal like that. When when I got that DNA,
Speaker 1: it's like it's nothing you can do. I sometimes I
Speaker 1: go and I closed the door. I remember he was
Speaker 1: six seven years old. I see my son that don't
Speaker 1: push you out and sit up with his door closed,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that, that type of
Speaker 1: thing is already instilled in them. So what else you
Speaker 1: got going on? I know you got the cigar? Uh
Speaker 1: joined this that's happening. I just I just I'm recently
Speaker 1: to Cigard, to the cigar world. I was when I
Speaker 1: see you was at it, and I said, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: well what's what you got going on? I'm gonna sending.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna get you
Speaker 1: this in a few to you. So it's the uh,
Speaker 1: it's the one of the comes to go. So it's
Speaker 1: a it's a sematra cigar. Um. It's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a medium tabowl comes to go, you know. Um. So
Speaker 1: they the tobacco come from Lancaster, p A, Connecticut and
Speaker 1: his wrap and Nick rock, but m yeah, and I
Speaker 1: and I wanted that cigard to my pallet and my
Speaker 1: taste because over let's say, over ten years, I had
Speaker 1: acquired a certain kind of taste for a cigar like it.
Speaker 1: So I think it too like a year and a
Speaker 1: half to do, and I took my time with it
Speaker 1: because I wanted to quality out my you know, product
Speaker 1: and quantity. So and right now he's doing real good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the wonderful kinds cigars you can you can
Speaker 1: buy me at at Howard G. Cigars. But I'll let
Speaker 1: you and I'll make you get a future. What's the
Speaker 1: what's my man? What what's the what's the website? Can
Speaker 1: they get them off? They go to Instagram? So it's
Speaker 1: at Howard G Cigars, you know. Okay, So yeah, man,
Speaker 1: there's cigars gars doing real more than I just go, hey,
Speaker 1: what what do you What are you drinking with? Though?
Speaker 1: What do you pay? Like? What what's the favorite? Because
Speaker 1: I just got put on with the I'm not a
Speaker 1: whiskey person, but when I drink when I had a
Speaker 1: cigar sometime now, I'll do the whiskey, right, So what's
Speaker 1: what's nice to the pair with the tequila? Whiskey dark.
Speaker 1: If you go to Killer, if you go te quila,
Speaker 1: like then in Yahoo the sin coro right, so give
Speaker 1: me in Yahoe c and carom on the rocks, a
Speaker 1: splash of Solda water and two lines. Now if you
Speaker 1: go with the red wine drinking with the Austin Hope
Speaker 1: out of past the Robles, California, you know, um, if
Speaker 1: you if you want to go with the champagne. Uh,
Speaker 1: they got the Crew champagne, and the Crew gets not
Speaker 1: too expensive for a lot of people, so they get
Speaker 1: if it's on a hot day, you want to pour
Speaker 1: with some champagne, go Crew with the champagne. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I just mix it like depending on how I feel like,
Speaker 1: I just I just mix it up whatever. But I'm
Speaker 1: coming out with a light of cigar because i want
Speaker 1: people to smoke with a coffee and the lights of
Speaker 1: ciguards with the leaf. So I'm gonna get a lot
Speaker 1: of leaf, which probably gonna come from Connecticut the route.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm all the way into it, bro Um,
Speaker 1: all the way into these of guards. I'm dude, I'm
Speaker 1: I am now. But this is up to a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. I've really got into it. I would
Speaker 1: smoke the guard here and there. But I didn't get
Speaker 1: what you just said. I didn't get and understand the
Speaker 1: whole pilot part of it, you know, pairing and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. And and now, man, it's kind of a
Speaker 1: once a week and once every few weeks. Man, I'll
Speaker 1: just sit back and I'll just do that. Yeah, I smoking.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, when Julia Corbany told me, mar
Speaker 1: come on, I was smoking a cigar outside. That's that's
Speaker 1: I smoke. I smoked egg cigar a day. You know.
Speaker 1: When I'm really on it, Um, I might, I might
Speaker 1: blow two or three a day. That's why I've been
Speaker 1: doing it for like ten years though, um heavy recreational.
Speaker 1: I've probably been doing it for like fifteen. But the
Speaker 1: last time I've been really into my cigars. Yeah, now
Speaker 1: me too. Hey, my dude, man, I appreciate you coming on. Man,
Speaker 1: I know you got they're going and I know Julia
Speaker 1: she hooked us up. So man, good looking out. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay in touch. I'm gonna get your information
Speaker 1: once we get off, and then, um, you know, probably
Speaker 1: I'm out there in Florida. Sometimes I don't know what
Speaker 1: you said. You in Hollywood were part of Florida. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm actually the landing. Okay, I was just
Speaker 1: I was just out there three but three months ago.
Speaker 1: Um doing some stuff with the w W. So I'll
Speaker 1: be out there too when I do that. Man, that's
Speaker 1: that's definitely getting working for sure. Yeah, well we're exchanging
Speaker 1: forward and just let me know when you're my way
Speaker 1: and I'll let you know when I'm your way done. Deal,
Speaker 1: You got it all right? Cool? Thanks guys for tuning
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Speaker 1: that was dope for me for a few different reasons. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Ikes was a hell of a player, but
Speaker 1: he has a lot going on with the scar line
Speaker 1: and he's in that world. I'm just newly into, uh
Speaker 1: the cigar world where I just picked up maybe a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago over Raymond was uh got me,
Speaker 1: got me a few cigars from years ago and now
Speaker 1: on now on hook. So that was a great conversation
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