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Speaker 5: Since it's dinner time, I'll start by drawing an analogy

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Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley, Okay, Paul, I mean you know we're.

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Speaker 1: There that made me hungry.

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Speaker 5: Paul, well, it's especially coming off the holiday season. Wolf

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Speaker 5: And I immediately thought of what Jonathan Gannon has done

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, And I know that for a fact because

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Speaker 1: And that was a tear drop a dime.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever text Fits? That was you and Pash

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Speaker 5: We are santan Ford, Paul calvic Ron Wilfley, and there's

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Speaker 5: And we'll get into the guy who had that second

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Speaker 6: He's a top level franchise quarterback and he's played like that.

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Speaker 6: He's shown that, you know, I think the best teams win,

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Speaker 5: So that was that was interesting. But you know, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's so You're You're right on Balie, there's

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Speaker 5: And he was asked at his final meeting with the media,

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Speaker 8: I'm proud of him, honestly, I'm proud of the work

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Speaker 5: What do you think of when you hear those comments

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Speaker 1: I just think of, you know, the truth and the

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior. Pauley, I told you this,

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Speaker 1: and I mean this. If everything was the same this year,

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Speaker 1: if the defense overachieved the way that the defense did

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Speaker 1: this year, and if you had the offensive line play

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Speaker 1: the way they played, and James Connor running the ball

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Speaker 1: the way that James Connor was running the ball, if

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Speaker 1: you did nothing else but improve the chemistry between Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior, I think it's a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: I think if you tell me that that chemistry improves

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Speaker 1: the way that I think it's going to improve next year.

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Speaker 1: And that's the only thing that gets better on this team.

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Speaker 1: They win ten.

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Speaker 5: Games, and look, history says that receivers, more than any

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Speaker 5: other position, take longer to acclimate. I think guys like

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Speaker 5: me and I'll own it. I mean, right after the draft,

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Speaker 5: I penciled him in for a Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase

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Speaker 5: rookie year going to the Pro Bowl, fourteen hundred yards

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Speaker 5: double doubles, and obviously it took a little more than that.

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Speaker 5: There was some inconsistency, there were remarkable moments, there were

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Speaker 5: great games, and then by two catches on seven targets.

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Speaker 5: But I do believe the last two games we saw

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Speaker 5: it deep shots down the sideline, they connected on those

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Speaker 5: back shoulders, which they were trying to do all season long.

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Speaker 5: And a couple of comments from Marvin Harrison Juniorrary said

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Speaker 5: after the Rams game, I had some different routes that

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Speaker 5: I got to run. Drew Petsing saying, you know what,

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Speaker 5: he was more physical at the top of his routes,

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Speaker 5: meaning getting separation, Kyler saying, we put him in position

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Speaker 5: to win. So I think it was also a matter

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Speaker 5: of figure out how best to use Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 5: and make him his most productive.

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Speaker 1: But not only that, PAULI, now, that's got a transfer

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Speaker 1: over to when it matters the most, when you have

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Speaker 1: a big game. That's got a transfer over where you

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Speaker 1: make those throws.

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Speaker 5: That yeah, no doubt. Hey, I listen to Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 3: To it takes play fake foot to the lock looking

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Speaker 3: dumping it off near side. Hill caught it and tackled

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Speaker 3: immediately by Buddha Baker. It's going to be a negative play.

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Speaker 3: And now they're saying incomplete as Hill and Buddha Baker

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Speaker 3: are jawing a little bit.

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Speaker 6: He's not bagging down from anybody, man. I mean, he's

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Speaker 6: a captain for one of the reasons he's a captain

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Speaker 6: is his intensity and his mode of play. And that's

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Speaker 6: how he's always been. And he's going to max out

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Speaker 6: every single snap and he ain't backing out from anybody.

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Speaker 5: And is Jonathan Gannon and his Pro Bowl safety's seven

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Speaker 5: time Pro bowler Buddha Baker, who went face mask to

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Speaker 5: face masks with Tyreek Hill early in that win at

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Speaker 5: the Dolphins, and Tyreek Hill was trying to let Buddha

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Speaker 5: know something, and Buddha let him know that I'm going

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Speaker 5: to be here all day and I'm going to be

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Speaker 5: tracking and bagging you like he did in the flat

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Speaker 5: on that play at his ears on a Cardinal's Big

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Speaker 5: Red Rage. Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley and wolf you've seen

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Speaker 5: a lot of football. You've seen a lot of ball

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Speaker 5: from a lot of Pro bowlers over the years. You've

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Speaker 5: been to four Pro Bowls yourself. You've been aroun on

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Speaker 5: the greats like Walter Payton and company. But what did

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Speaker 5: you think of a career year from Buddha Baker ended

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Speaker 5: up second in the league with one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 5: four tackles.

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Speaker 1: Oh, PAULI, I mean, where do you start in regard

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Speaker 1: to Buddha Baker? Oh? My goodness. The very first thing

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Speaker 1: I have to say is, I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 1: seen a better football player than Buddha Baker. I've seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of great football players, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: I've seen a better one than Buddha Baker. He might

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Speaker 1: be right there in the top three. There might be

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys tied with him, a Jerome Bettis

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Speaker 1: by way of example, Jerome Bettis and how he used

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Speaker 1: to run the ball. But Buddha Baker, over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again, how many times I have said this.

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Speaker 1: It is so challenging and impressive to watch him on tape,

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Speaker 1: line up and go to the wall one percent on

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Speaker 1: every play. Just don't find that, Paulie A lot, and

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Speaker 1: yet that's what Buddha does.

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Speaker 5: Nick Rawlis, when we asked him about Buddhist season late

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Speaker 5: in this campaign, said he plays like a bullet. That

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Speaker 5: was the defensive coordinator. We'll get into Nick Rawlis in

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Speaker 5: a moment. I bring that up because Wolf on Cardinals

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Speaker 5: Underground the podcast this week, I detailed how we had

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Speaker 5: a KELVC consulting season long IT team investigation exactly how

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Speaker 5: and why was Buddha having this sort of campaign, In

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Speaker 5: what way did they unlock Buddha Baker and I got

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Speaker 5: a lot of resistance. Early, no one was talking, but

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Speaker 5: towards the end people let me know that indeed his

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Speaker 5: role did change in year two in the scheme, they

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Speaker 5: allowed him to play where he had more eyes on

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Speaker 5: the quarterback more often. They put him more in what

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Speaker 5: they call the hooks, more inside to attack that it

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Speaker 5: wasn't as easy for a quarterback to just audible and

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Speaker 5: go one side or the other away from Buddha Baker.

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Speaker 5: And then at the same time, when he decided did

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Speaker 5: decide to to freelance, if you will, Although it was

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Speaker 5: certainly within the scheme, other guys knew it and were

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Speaker 5: prepared for it, and so he's tackle for loss against

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Speaker 5: the Niners, for example, the most recent one where he

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Speaker 5: just shot immediately made the tackle of the running back

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Speaker 5: in the backfield. Other guys knew to have his backside

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Speaker 5: in his coverage responsibilities because Buddha was going. And so

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Speaker 5: those were some of the things they did do. Unlock

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Speaker 5: Buddha Baker, if you will. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 5: the term the players would use, but sure, that's that's

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Speaker 5: what I was told here late in the year.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what's interesting about that, PAULI, You're you're

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Speaker 1: absolutely correct. He played a lot more around the box

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Speaker 1: for the most part is where he was playing right now.

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Speaker 1: It was the adjustment that Nick Rowlss made. And when

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Speaker 1: I hear you talking about how they used Buddha Baker,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Troy Polamalo. Yeah, right, thinking that that's

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Speaker 1: how they used Troy Polamalo and a lot of times too, Paul.

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Speaker 1: It was in Robert coverage. Robber is man across the

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Speaker 1: board with the free safety in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: field high and then you've got a lurk or a

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Speaker 1: free hitter down low, and that free hitter much of

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Speaker 1: the time was Buddha Baker and that's exactly what Troy

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Speaker 1: Polamalo you should do as well with the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: for all of those years. But making a mistake about it.

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Speaker 1: Nick Rawlis schemed it up, man. He schemed it up

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Speaker 1: this year. Now, every defensive coordinator I know would prefer

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Speaker 1: to have four guys that they could count on to

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Speaker 1: rush the passer, and let me drop seven. Four guys

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Speaker 1: who could rush the passer, get pressure on that quarterback,

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Speaker 1: get in his face, move him around, put him under

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Speaker 1: durest so when he throws the ball, those seven guys

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Speaker 1: that dropped might have a chance of actually picking that

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Speaker 1: thing off. Every defensive coordinator wants that. That was not

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Speaker 1: the fate for Nick Rawlis this year. That was not

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Speaker 1: what was happening on the football field. He had to

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Speaker 1: scheme a lot of pressures up and he did a

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Speaker 1: great job of it.

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Speaker 5: Seventeen different players with a least one sack apiece, a

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Speaker 5: dozen players with at least two sacks a piece, so

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Speaker 5: it was coming from anywhere and everywhere at different times.

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Speaker 5: But once again, team captain Buddha Baker led the way.

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Speaker 5: And here he is on the trust from the team

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Speaker 5: and his goal ultimately.

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Speaker 9: Just for them to be able to continue to trust

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Speaker 9: in me to be that certain player you know, on

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Speaker 9: and off the field. For me, was special. And you know,

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Speaker 9: my main goal is getting the super Bowl here in Arizona,

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Speaker 9: and that's what I've stuck my mind to and I'm

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Speaker 9: going to try to lead, you know, the players and

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Speaker 9: team to get to that point.

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Speaker 5: Again. The third most tackles by a defensive back in

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Speaker 5: the NFL since at least nineteen ninety one. Let that

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Speaker 5: hang in the air. That's the kind of year he had. Now,

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals defense as a whole over the final eleven games,

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Speaker 5: allowed less than twenty points per game, and only three

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Speaker 5: teams allowed fewer over that span. So to your point,

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Speaker 5: Nick Ross obviously was at the epicenter of that as

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Speaker 5: a defensive coordinator in conjunction with a head coach who

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Speaker 5: used to be a defensive co New York fact, here's

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Speaker 5: Jag And when we asked him about the rise and

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Speaker 5: emergence of Nick Rawless this year.

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Speaker 6: You know, when I say we got a bunch of

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Speaker 6: guys in there that are gonna be head coaches, he's

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Speaker 6: one of them. I know that just from a development standpoint,

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Speaker 6: from a schematic standpoint, about understanding the game, about understanding defense,

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Speaker 6: about understanding offense. And then he's ascended extremely quickly. It's

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Speaker 6: it's because he's talented. I'd say this. I think I'm

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Speaker 6: a hard worker. There's no one that works harder than

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Speaker 6: this guy, point blank. I mean, he's the hardest worker

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Speaker 6: we got on our staff, and I'll tell anyone that.

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Speaker 5: So after the Cardinals held down Matthew Stafford to a

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Speaker 5: single touchdown in Week seventeen, after the game, he commented

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Speaker 5: on two things, One the physical nature of the Cardinals defense,

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Speaker 5: and two the scheme. It's hard to read, it's hard

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Speaker 5: to play against. And so based on that, I'm guessing

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Speaker 5: Nick Ross made, if he didn't already have it, made

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Speaker 5: for quite a reputation around the league. Those guys who

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Speaker 5: really know what they're looking at on films.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Paul, there's no doubt about that. I just think

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Speaker 1: of the sacks attempt, it's better, it's a better way

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Speaker 1: of looking at it, sacks per attempt than just sacks

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Speaker 1: on the year, but sax per attempt. The Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: were number thirteen going into the forty nine Ers game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: number thirteen, Paully, tell me where are the great sack

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Speaker 1: masters on the Arizona Cardinals roster? Ye? Are they on there?

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Speaker 1: PAULI did it? We got a guy who's double digits.

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Speaker 1: Do we got a guy who's got sixteen sacks on it? No? No, no,

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Speaker 1: not at all. And there is a classic example of

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Speaker 1: what Nick Rolis did and the way he schemed it

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Speaker 1: up for the Arizona Cardinals to be almost in the

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Speaker 1: top third of the league. But number thirteen overall was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Another metric that is a big metric, the red zone.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals did give up some yards out on the field,

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Speaker 1: they did, but they were still right in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the pack for the most part, and giving up

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Speaker 1: those yards, they were not in the bottom third of

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Speaker 1: the league. And yet once you got into the red zone,

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Speaker 1: they played so much better. A lot of that is

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Speaker 1: how that scheme is coached, and that was Nick Rowlis

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Speaker 1: as well. And they were in the top half of

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Speaker 1: the league getting number fourteen. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: in twenty two point two points per game going into

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers game, that was number fourteen in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Paul, the players that were there

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Speaker 1: did not match those numbers to me, and that tells

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Speaker 1: me that they're getting some great coaching and they're playing

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Speaker 1: in a great scheme. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Last we checked, points on the scoreboard were the ultimate

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Speaker 5: and really only barometer. And if you use that going

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Speaker 5: back to Week seven, Cardinals allowed in NFL low twenty

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Speaker 5: touchdowns during that span, and think about it, they lost

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Speaker 5: Ball Nichols and Justin Jones. They're starting defensive tackles right

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Speaker 5: out of the gate, Essentially Dennis Gardik, who had a

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Speaker 5: three SAT game in Week two, then he went down

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Speaker 5: to a season in.

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Speaker 1: Who was also their best ad washer at the.

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Speaker 5: Time, so Zamon Collins, who really didn't rush the passer

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Speaker 5: all the time. They used Zamon Collins in so many

649
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Speaker 5: different ways, including inside dropping in coverage. Heck, we saw

650
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Speaker 5: him against Tyreek Hill playing center field. He ended up

651
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 5: as your leading sack man with five even to your point,

652
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 5: so a Cardinals defense that, admittedly Jonathan Agin and his

653
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 5: own TV show three four games into the season told us, Yeah,

654
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Speaker 5: we're having a hard time fitting the run, even when

655
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Speaker 5: we devote extra guys to the box. We got to

656
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Speaker 5: figure that out. They figured it out. They did that,

657
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Speaker 5: and so once again, Nick Rowlis, I'm very curious to

658
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Speaker 5: see what he has in store. And here's the other

659
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Speaker 5: thing to me is how much better the Cardinals fared

660
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Speaker 5: in the division from year one to year two. For example,

661
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 5: Kyraen Williams co rushed the Cardinals in last year with

662
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: over three hundred yards rushing between those two games. In

663
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 5: these two games this year, he had fifty plus yards

664
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Speaker 5: in each one, basically rendered a non factor. So Nick

665
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Speaker 5: Rawlis and company, they I think have a pretty good

666
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Speaker 5: foothold on what it needs, what they need to do

667
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Speaker 5: defensively against the division, and that was not the case

668
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: PAULI, I know this. I know this question I'm going

670
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Speaker 1: to ask you is going to be answered, and I

671
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Speaker 1: know exactly how you're going to answer it because you

672
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Speaker 1: were the one who told me this. But you talk

673
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: to some defensive players in that locker room and you

674
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: probably get about fifteen to twenty seconds in before they

675
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Speaker 1: bring up Nick Rowlis on their own, on their own, Paulie,

676
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: they're going to bring it up. What does that tell you?

677
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Speaker 1: The respect that they actually have for this guy, this

678
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Speaker 1: young guy, and how he goes about his business. Wow,

679
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: that's impressive.

680
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Speaker 5: Last week here in the Big Red Rage, did Roy

681
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Speaker 5: Lopez not use the words rockstar.

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Speaker 1: Yes, hey, learn more about.

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Speaker 5: Ford and Gilbert.

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Speaker 3: First and ten at the thirty one of San Francisco

688
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Speaker 3: bunch set to the right. Murray quick throw to the

689
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Speaker 3: right side, caught by McBride at the thirty and he

690
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Speaker 3: goes up into the air, hurdles a defender and gets

691
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Speaker 3: to about the nineteen fro at first down again at twelve,

692
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Speaker 3: he tried to jump over gi yeared ground and kind

693
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Speaker 3: of karate kicked him as he did.

694
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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Daniel's son grow strong. Grasshopper went up

695
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Speaker 4: into the air and he used the right leg is

696
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Speaker 4: a bit of a knee.

697
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Speaker 3: Maybe he's been watching the new season of Cobra Kai.

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Speaker 3: That's out right now. I mean, that's bound to happen

699
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Speaker 3: when you try to hurdle a guy, right. I mean,

700
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Speaker 3: the defenders they're not falling for it anymore. They're kind

701
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Speaker 3: of backing away. But I guess if you don't get jumped,

702
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Speaker 3: you get kneed right in the mouth.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, grows strong grasshopper.

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Speaker 5: Trey mchurdle strikes again. That's four this year. There were

705
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Speaker 5: three things that lit up the Cardinals sideline, the fake

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Speaker 5: pond DJ Dallas, the fight, the skirmish against Juwan Jennings,

707
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Speaker 5: and then there was Trey mchurdle going through the defender. Well,

708
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Speaker 5: if you've seen a lot of football moves in your time,

709
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Speaker 5: where does that one rank you?

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Speaker 1: Polly? Nobody used to do this, really, you know, I

711
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Speaker 1: mean from time to time, and then when I say that,

712
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about maybe six seven years you'd see somebody

713
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Speaker 1: do it, but nobody, nobody does this and Trey McBride

714
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Speaker 1: watching him do it now in have you noticed, Paul,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's just Trey McBride, but Trey

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Speaker 1: does it more than anybody else. He certainly did that

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Speaker 1: this year. But have you noticed even at the college level,

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Speaker 1: you're starting to see more of these hurdles, even at

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Speaker 1: that level, Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 5: And did you notice after the game when we asked

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Speaker 5: him about it, he said, and I quote, I jumped

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Speaker 5: up in the air and I was like, oh no,

723
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Speaker 5: this is not good. The guy met me up in

724
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Speaker 5: the air and I landed back on my feet. I

725
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 5: was just surprised. I wasn't down yet. I tried to

726
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Speaker 5: make a play and it worked out on my behalf.

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Speaker 5: I think he was shocked that he actually ended up

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Speaker 5: on his feet and got a few more yards. I

729
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Speaker 5: liken it to riding the nose of a surfboard, right,

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Speaker 5: That's what he was doing out there, and you knew

731
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Speaker 5: he was destined for stardom. On NFL Network, their most

732
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Speaker 5: popular segment in the mornings, Good Morning Football is Angry,

733
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Speaker 5: runs the Great Kyle Brandt. So, with no further ado,

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Speaker 5: here's Kyle Brant honoring Trey McBride in three two one.

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Speaker 10: Indeed, Trey McBride doing nasty things like he has done

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Speaker 10: all year long. Look out, look out, we have lift

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Speaker 10: off that is awesome?

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Speaker 1: Was that blossom root?

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Speaker 10: Was that he must bed doll? Oh my gosh, give

740
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Speaker 10: me a freeze framing McBride, who's not trying to jump

741
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Speaker 10: over the forty nine er, He's trying to jump through

742
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Speaker 10: him with physics freez this thing. It looks as if

743
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Speaker 10: the tackler is trying to put him in the overhead.

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Speaker 10: But as you know, items tend to shift to during flights.

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Speaker 1: That is absolutely Oh. Look at his kneecap is all

746
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Speaker 1: the way up by his own ear.

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Speaker 10: Trade McBride has done awesome things this year. This is

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Speaker 10: a player in the last week of the season who

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Speaker 10: knows he's not going to the playoffs and still wants

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Speaker 10: to smash smash some Niners. McBride had a season. He's

751
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Speaker 10: gotten next. I love Trey McBride. He makes the Niners

752
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Speaker 10: his bride and this will look out. Let's go to

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Speaker 10: the Bridezilla. Trade McBride the sceptor. You were born to

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Speaker 10: wield this thing.

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Speaker 1: Trade Ming Pride. You are currently in the offseason.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if you're in Tauloon right now, God

757
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 10: bless you. If you are, we're gonna have to send

758
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Speaker 10: this to whatever tiki hut you're sitting over.

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Speaker 9: Trami.

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Speaker 10: Pride's probably in the gym. He's probably getting games. He's

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Speaker 10: probably lifted. What are you doing some decline press?

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Speaker 1: Trade you can add this to it.

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Speaker 5: This is your barn bell.

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Speaker 1: This is your workout now.

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Speaker 10: Trade McBride the winner of Angry Runs Week eighteen. Angry

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Speaker 10: Run Boom, Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Oh that is so good.

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Speaker 5: You enjoyed the tiki hud, because that's what you do

769
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 5: for your getaways, your vacation time. You get the tiki hud.

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Speaker 1: It's just, first of all, it looked like the tackler

771
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Speaker 1: was trying to put him in the overad. That's exactly

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Speaker 1: if you freeze it, that's exactly.

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Speaker 5: If it's an ink blot test, that's what it looks like.

774
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Speaker 5: You're right, It's like the luggage had overwhelmed the air passenger.

775
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 5: It couldn't actually hoist all said items.

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Speaker 1: Tender shift that was. That was good stuff right there by. Kyle.

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Speaker 5: See now, I was kicking myself about ten minutes after

778
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Speaker 5: I did the interview after the game. You know why,

779
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: because I hate it when I think of a good

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Speaker 5: question after the interview's over. I should have asked him

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Speaker 5: if he got that move from Sugar Shan O'Malley, the

782
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Speaker 5: UFC star and former kickboxing champ who came to Cardinals

783
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 5: practice mid season. I should have asked him if he

784
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 5: got that from Sugar Sean, because that's what that looked like.

785
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Speaker 5: And but once again, Kyle Brandt, there aren't many broadcasters

786
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Speaker 5: who can meet the moment of the actual play itself,

787
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Speaker 5: but Kyle Brandt We've coined the term per performance broadcasting,

788
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Speaker 5: and that's what Kyle Brandt does with those angry run segments.

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Speaker 5: They're just outstanding.

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Speaker 1: No, they really are pully and also too very applicable.

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Speaker 1: The game of football has become a very physical game

792
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Speaker 1: once again. I absolutely love it. The new schemes being

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Speaker 1: blended with the old schemes, and yet the physicality and

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Speaker 1: the way that physicality is now coveted once again in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. I absolutely love it. So I

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Speaker 1: love the angry scepter runs.

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Speaker 5: And we talked ut Buddha Baker having an epic career year.

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Speaker 5: Trey McBride just real quick, well if just just a

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Speaker 5: comment on where he's going. This is year three for

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Speaker 5: Trey McBride, and I don't think it should go unnoticed

801
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 5: that in that game, Fred Warner, the best middle linebacker

802
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 5: on the planet, got schooled repeatedly by Trey McBride in coverage. Look,

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Speaker 5: Fred Warner can do most everything. He can't cover number

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Speaker 5: eighty five. Trey McBride has torched him more than once

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Speaker 5: in more than one game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. It's the area I

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Speaker 1: think that Trey McBride has improved the most is in

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Speaker 1: his route running and his ability to get open, especially

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Speaker 1: in zones. Recognize zones and then sit him down in

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Speaker 1: some soft areas of those zones, of course, and Kyler

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Speaker 1: with his eyes on him and being able to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball accurately to Trey. But the best thing is,

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Speaker 1: and you know the way I feel about this, you

814
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Speaker 1: can go in eleven personnel, one back, one tight end,

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Speaker 1: three wide receivers in run down situation first and ten second,

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Speaker 1: one to six, and you can run your offense. You

817
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: can put Kyler Murray under center. You can put him

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Speaker 1: in the pistol with James Connor behind him. You can

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Speaker 1: put him in the shotgun. You've got eleven personnel, which

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Speaker 1: is the dominant personnel group and run down situation in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. And yet you can remain balanced.

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Speaker 1: You can run it or throw it because Trey McBride

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Speaker 1: will hold up at the point of attack and he

824
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Speaker 1: cares about blocking, and that to me says everything about

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00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: this kid.

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Speaker 5: Wild Card weekend coming up the playoffs football feedbag, Well,

827
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Speaker 5: if you're gonna strap it on for six games count

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Speaker 5: of six to two on Saturday, three on Sunday, a

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Speaker 5: Monday night game Vikings at the Rams, unless the SOCOW

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Speaker 5: wildfires are bad enough that it might be relocated to

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Speaker 5: State Farm Stadium. We'll see if that occurs. But is

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Speaker 5: there a game you're looking forward to the most in

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Speaker 5: that slate?

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Speaker 1: Boy, there really is, Pauly honestly. Right now, it's the

835
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens hosting the Pittsburgh Steelers. Of course, my brother

836
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Speaker 1: Craig being the radio analyst for the Steelers. But also

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Speaker 1: what a bloody sheets game that is going to be

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Speaker 1: right there. And I would have to say Saturday, even

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Speaker 1: though there's only two games on Saturday, when you think

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Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles Chargers of course going against the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. That's the first game on Saturday, and then

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Speaker 1: it's Pittsburgh at Baltimore Saturday. Bally Man, Yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: like your foot ball physical, that's a good watch.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, just Mike t against John Harbaugh three dozen

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00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 5: times they've gone against each other. And then on Sunday,

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00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 5: I mean Packers at Eagles. You know Nick Sirianni, A

848
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 5: lot of eyes on Nick Sirianni and that Eagles team.

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Speaker 5: And we know what Jordan Love and the Packers did

850
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: in Round one of the playoffs. A year ago, they

851
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 5: absolutely trounced the Dallas Cowboys on their home turf.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be really interesting.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 1: I still am having a hard time with the whole

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love is good. Jordan Love is a guy that

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Speaker 1: is actually going to develop into their franchise quarterback. I'm

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00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: having a really really tough time with that, going from

858
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: brought Farv to Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love.

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Speaker 5: By the way, the NFL dot Com just released there

860
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 5: are QB power rankings today. See we're already enlist season. Okay,

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Speaker 5: they had Jaden Daniels ahead of Patrick Mahomes, and after

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes also didn't make the Pro Bowl, I'm really wondering,

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Speaker 5: after Casey enjoys it's by if Patrick Mahomes is going

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Speaker 5: to put on a show the rest of the postseason

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Speaker 5: and just prove to everyone who's the best player on

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Speaker 5: the planet.

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Speaker 1: Still, oh yeah, I can't. I can't even imagine that

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Speaker 1: right now. You know, would you pick against the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs to win the whole thing, PAULI, would you

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Speaker 1: do that?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: Because they used the regular season as a preseason. They

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Speaker 5: did just enough to win each game they did just

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Speaker 5: enough to get the home field advantage. And now I

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Speaker 5: think you're gonna really see what they're all about. And

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Speaker 5: if you get Patrick Mahomes that little extra motivation, that

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Speaker 5: little extra chip on the old shoulder pad, look out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI. And you know what else is going to

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Speaker 1: be fascinating too. I think the Kansas City Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: going to win it all. How do you pick against

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Speaker 1: a team They're the two time defending Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 1: going for their third right now, having the kind of

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Speaker 1: year they had where they just won games when they

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Speaker 1: had to. What's going to be fascinating is watching Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell and whether he's still that riverboat gamp in the postseason.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, especially after they blew that big lead against the

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Speaker 5: forty nine ers in the NFC title game year ago.

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Speaker 1: Just say it?

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