1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: daybaq At podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: wherever you listen. It's Thursday, the twenty ninth of February 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: in London. I'm Caroline Hepki. 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today, The US Supreme 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Court agrees to rule on Donald Trump's bid for immunity. 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: Reports say the SEC is investigating where the Open AI 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: misled investors. 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: Plus how would you do as Chancellor? Bloomberg's new online 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: budget game lets you make the tax and spending decisions. 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: The US Supreme Court has agreed to rule on Donald 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: Trump's bid for immunity from criminal prosecution over interference in 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty election. The decision raises the prospect that 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: any trial of the former president could face a long delay, 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: potentially until after the November election. Bloomberg's Ed Baxter has 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: the story. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: This case will involve the potential immunity from criminal prosecution 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: and will be historic. It will determine whether Trump will 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: stand trial for the twenty twenty election interference charges. The 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: ruling also puts on hold the Washington d C. Election 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 3: interference trial, which was due to start next week. Trump 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: has been pushing to put off any trials until after 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: the election. The court says it we'll hear arguments the 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: week of April twenty second, when the court will rule. 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: As a question, though it usually hands down its decisions 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: at the end of its term in late June, but 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: it could expedite things. Ed Baxter Bloomberg Radio. 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: Now More US Politics. The veteran politician Mitch mccollinell is 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: stepping down after leading Senate Republicans for more than seventeen years. 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: The decision sets up a fifth succession battle that will 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: be driven by fealty to the party's presidential front runner, 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. McConnell and Trump have long had a difficult relationship, 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: but the animosity grew after McConnell blamed the former president 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: for the January sixth insurrection. Republican Tennessee Senator Bill Haggerty 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: shared his thoughts on McConnell's time in office with Bloomberg Leader. 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 4: McConnell's had a great, long career here in the United 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: States Senate, the longest serving leader, as you've mentioned, and 39 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: he's got a lot to point to if you think 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: about his success during the Trump administration, seating three Supreme 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: Court justices as impact in the federal judiciary will be 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 4: long standing and very positive for the nation. And he's 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: come to the decision that the time has come to change. 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: I appreciate that, appreciate his leadership, and we will sort 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: through the leadership of our conference here in short order. 46 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: And you can hear that full interview with Senator Bill 47 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: Haggerty on Bloomberg's Balance of Power podcast. McConnell, who is 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: up for reelection in twenty twenty six, says that he 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: does not intend to retire from the Senate at the 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: end of the year. 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: Well, Congressional leaders, meanwhile, I have reached the last minute 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 2: deal to avoid a US government shutdown, setting up a 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: clash with Republican hardliners. Lawmakers agreed to fund the government 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: until later in March to give them time to negotiate. 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: Congress and Ralph Norman sits in the hard right Freedom Caucus. 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: He condemned the deal on Bloomberg's Balance of Power program. 57 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 5: Well, we haven't seen the text of the bills yet. 58 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 5: The minibuses are an insult to the American people. We've 59 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 5: just gotten back from over a week's out of session 60 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 5: out of Washington, d C. American people deserve better than this. 61 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 5: You wouldn't run a peanuts stand over. How the Congress 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 5: is trying to do the national budget. 63 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: The South Carolina to have a shut down with many 64 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: investors assuming Congress would once again reach a last minute deal. 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: Now to other news, these Securities and Exchange Commission is 66 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: reportedly investigating whether open ai investors were misled. The Wall 67 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Street Journal says that the US regulator is studying internal 68 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: communications by CEO Sam Altman in relation to the board's 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: decision to oust him from the post back in November. 70 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: At the time, would say that Altman hadn't been consistently 71 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: candid in his communications, but a few days later open 72 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: Ai announced that it had reached an agreement for him 73 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: to return as CEO alongside an overhauled board. 74 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: Three Federal Reserve officials say the eight path depends on 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: incoming economic data. It comes as bond traders are fully 76 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: unwound their bets on the Fed, lowering rates by more 77 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: than seventy five basis points this year. Boston Fed presidencies 78 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: and Collins says don't expect a specific fixed schedule. 79 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 6: As policymakers carefully assess the evolving data and outlook. I 80 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 6: do want to see more evidence of that sustained trajectory, 81 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 6: and consistent with projections from FOMC participants, I do believe 82 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 6: it'll be appropriate to begin using policy later this year, 83 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 6: and when that happens, a methodical, forward looking approach to 84 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 6: gradually reducing rates should provide the necessary flexibility. 85 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: Collins was joined by the New York Fed's John Williams 86 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: and Atlanta's Raphael Bastik and expressing fears that this economic 87 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: cycle is different. Futures markets have priced in a probable 88 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: rate cut in June, with almost no chance of a 89 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 2: reduction next month. 90 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: Now to the UK, Jeremy Hunt has looked into scrapping 91 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: Britain's non dom tax status in the coming budget. The 92 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: Chancellor is wargaming ways to find cash to fund his 93 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: pre election tax cuts. Bloomberg's James Wilcock Casmore. 94 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 7: Bloomberg has learned the Chancellor is weighing scrapping a scheme 95 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 7: that let people avoid paying tax on their overseas earnings. 96 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 7: Getting rid of non dom status would help raise money 97 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 7: for what he hopes are election winning tax cuts. There's 98 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 7: only one issue. Labor have been campaigning on it for years. 99 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 8: He won't follow Labour's plan to scrap non dom status. Instead, 100 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 8: we've gone NHS staffing crisis, two week to take on 101 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 8: his party, two week to take on vested interest. 102 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 7: Kisstarma there, speaking in Rischie Sunac's first month of government, 103 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 7: Hunt himself said he was worried that removing the status 104 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 7: would drive non doms away from Britain. Back then, has 105 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 7: his tight fiscal situation changed his mind? In London James 106 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 7: Wilcock Bloomberg Radio. 107 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: And the gender pay gap has widened in the UK. 108 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: According to new figures from PwC, men now earn fourteen 109 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: and a half percent more than women, a slight increase 110 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: from last year. On average, women earned ninety pence for 111 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: every pound earned by a man of a similar professional background, 112 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: according to the Women in Work Index. That means the 113 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: UK has slipped from thirteen to seventeenth place in global 114 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: equality pay rankings, the largest annual fall of any of 115 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: the thirty three OECD countries measured. The gender pay gap 116 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: also worsens, with age women between forty six and sixty 117 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: five experience more than twice the hit of women under 118 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: thirty as a consequence of the motherhood penalty. In a moment, 119 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: we'll get more on those latest US political stories and 120 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: how it could affect the presidential election later this year, 121 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 2: plus Bloomberg's new budget game in the UK, Could you 122 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: you crash the economy? We'll find out in a couple 123 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: of minutes, Caroline. But another story that caught her this 124 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: morning about Rolex sales topping ten billion dollars for the 125 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: first time, according to a report from Morgan Stanley. 126 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Morgan Salley, because of course Rolex doesn't disclose its 127 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: individual annual sales, but yes, they managed to sell one 128 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: point two four million watches in twenty twenty three. And 129 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: when you look at the lovely bar shot in the 130 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: story on the terminal, it just shows you how much 131 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: Rolex watches sort of trump all the others. They are 132 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: by far the kind of biggest luxury name in the 133 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: watch the watch industry. 134 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: From Sacay Times, the sales of Cartier estimated so in 135 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: Swiss Franks ten point one billion for Rolex, three point 136 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: one billion for Cartier, and Omega Odmar speak and the 137 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: other's pa rather fall lower down the list as well, 138 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: so that they were dominating the market by so much. 139 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 140 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: On the other hand, at the other end of the scale, 141 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: do you remember the moon swatch two million of the 142 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty fee. That's more my budget. 143 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's turn to the latest US political news 144 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: Now and that Supreme Court decision to hear arguments on 145 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's immunity from prosecution over interference the twenty twenty election. 146 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: Our senior editor Bill Ferries joins US Now for more 147 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: on this story. Bill, the Supreme Court is going to 148 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: hear this case, but later done. The Special Council had 149 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: hoped what does this mean then for Donald Trump's election prospects? 150 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 9: Right? 151 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 10: The Special Council had been hoping for a March hearing 152 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 10: and a decision within a matter of weeks after that 153 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 10: so they could get the case going. With the Supreme 154 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 10: Court not taking it up till late April, it's really 155 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 10: not clear how quickly they will rule. They would often 156 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 10: put out their rulings in June. That just starts pushing 157 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 10: the calendar awfully close to the November election. Donald Trump, 158 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 10: of course, has argued that any decision on this case 159 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 10: should take place after the election, and if he just 160 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 10: happens to win the November vote. By January of next year, 161 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 10: he would actually be in position to have federal prosecutors 162 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 10: just drop the case. So it's very interesting timing. We 163 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 10: still need to see how this plays out. The Supreme 164 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 10: Court could certainly decide to issue their ruling more quickly. 165 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 10: It's not the only Trump case they have at this point, 166 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 10: of course. They're also They've already had a hearing on 167 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 10: whether Donald Trump can be removed from the ballot in 168 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 10: the Arizona Republican primary. That's something decision could come out 169 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 10: on that within weeks as well. So two cases for 170 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 10: the former president before the Supreme Court at this point. 171 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 10: There could actually be more by the end of the year. 172 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: On a state by state basis. Donald Trump has also 173 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: been taken off the ballot in Illinois. How does that 174 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: add to the legal challenges? 175 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 10: Well, you're right, it's the third state so far where 176 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 10: these lawsuits have been brought. Who is ruled, which is 177 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 10: ruled that Donald Trump needs to be removed from the ballot. 178 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 10: The reality is that I think that case we mentioned 179 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 10: where the Supreme Court had a hearing on Arizona's decision 180 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 10: to do the same thing. The ruling that the Supreme 181 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,359 Speaker 10: Court puts out in that case will likely cover Illinois, 182 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 10: it will likely cover Maine. Those are the two other 183 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 10: states that have now gone in this direction. The other 184 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 10: kind of strange reality of US politics is that Donald 185 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 10: Trump could still become the Republican nominee even if his 186 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 10: name never appears on the ballots of those three states. 187 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 10: We have Super Tuesday next week, March fifth. He is 188 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 10: expected to do quite well there. He could secure or 189 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 10: come very close to securing the nomination in one day 190 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 10: next week. So at another level, these rulings may not 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 10: be the deciding factor, but there's certainly interest on his 192 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 10: side and making sure there's no precedent of kicking people 193 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 10: off primary ballots. 194 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the presidential race. A different political race 195 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: beginning in Washington now. Mitch McConnell has announce t stepping 196 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: down as Reblica leader in the Senate at the next election. 197 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: Talks who's in line to replace him. 198 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 10: Well, right now, we know three people named John who 199 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 10: have all said that they're interested in going for that 200 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 10: top job, Senators John Barrosso, John Thune, and John Cornyn. 201 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 10: There will likely be other people who put feelers out 202 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 10: or announced formally that they're interested in becoming the Senate 203 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 10: Majority leader or Senate the Republican leader. But the big 204 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 10: shift here is that Senator McConnell had been had had 205 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 10: very testy relationship with Trump and certain issues. He had 206 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 10: been seen as maybe one of the highest profile opponents 207 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 10: of Trump in key areas. He will be gone, and 208 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 10: the leadership that's coming up behind him is almost entirely 209 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 10: supportive of Donald Trump. So far, the people we know 210 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 10: who are likely to run have all endorsed him. And 211 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 10: then you throw that. You look over on the House side, 212 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 10: you have the new House Speaker, Mike Johnson. He endorsed 213 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 10: Donald Trump really within hours of becoming the speak So 214 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 10: it shows the grip I think that the former president has. 215 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 10: He always had this core base of supporters out in 216 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 10: the country. He now has almost the entire leadership in 217 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 10: Washington on the Republican side as well. 218 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, So that's Mitch McConnell, a Republican from Kentucky 219 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: at eighty two. In terms of other news, O, more generally, 220 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: and this is perhaps a bit more positive, a fresh 221 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: government shutdown's actually been averted. 222 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right. They've lawmakers, bipartisan group met earlier this 223 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 10: week with Joe Biden. They've decided to a deadline that 224 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 10: really had been Friday at midnight got pushed back a week. 225 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 10: A second deadline that had been a setup for next 226 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 10: week got pushed back another week as well. The lawmakers 227 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 10: seem to have some confidence that they can start getting 228 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 10: these spending bills passed. They face a really hard deadline 229 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 10: in late April when if they don't pass a budget, 230 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 10: mandatory cuts start to come in that neither party is 231 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 10: really interested. That would include cuts to the defense, the 232 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 10: Pentagon budget, the State Department budget, other key areas. So 233 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 10: it's a sign of progress. I feel like we've had this, 234 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 10: We've been here before. I wouldn't be surprised if we 235 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 10: end up in a situation where we're having another another 236 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 10: effort to kind of kick the can down the road 237 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 10: a few weeks before they get resolution on this. 238 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: Okay, plenty to monitor in US politics today, Bill Fairies, 239 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: thank you so much for taking us through all of 240 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: those stories. That's our senior editor, Bill Ferries. 241 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: There well now here in the UK, the Chancellor Jeremy 242 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: Hunt will deliver his budget next week, a crunch moment 243 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: for the Conservative Party as they seek a poll boost 244 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: ahead of a general election expected later this year. But 245 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: what would you do if you were in his shoes? Well, 246 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: you can try your hand by playing Bloomberg's new budget game, 247 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: which is now live on bloomberg dot com. Your aim 248 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: is to win over voters with your tax and spending choices, 249 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: but of course without crashing the markets. Joining us now 250 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: to discuss this under the wider points are UK Government, 251 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: reported Joe Mays, who came up with the game. How 252 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: does the game work? 253 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 9: Well, as you say, Caroline, you have to respect that 254 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 9: constraint you have as chancellor, which is you have limited 255 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 9: funds before a budget and you have to spend your 256 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 9: funds wisely. You have choices around income tax, natural insurance, 257 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 9: all the big things that Jeremy Hunt has to decide. 258 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 9: And then once you've made your choices, you will get 259 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 9: a result. Have you crashed the markets or have you 260 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 9: indeed satisfied your nps and voses. It's a tricky game, 261 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 9: I must say. When making it, I realized how many 262 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 9: paths do end in a tricky situation for the chancellor. 263 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 9: So yeah, it's a tough one. 264 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: It's like a choose your own adventure, but with quite 265 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: serious consequences. Jo, what was the thinking behind then coming 266 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: up with this way of explaining the dilemmas facing the chancellor. 267 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 9: Well, I think that a budget is quite hard to 268 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 9: explain in terms of the constraints of chancellor faces and 269 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 9: trying to understand how much money you really have and 270 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 9: how much money the different options cost. And having it 271 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 9: in that game format, we felt really kind of brought 272 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 9: it to life and made it real for people and 273 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 9: really showed you the pressure you face from having to 274 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 9: make those choices in a way that kind of a 275 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 9: written article probably cannot do. So that's why we thought 276 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 9: we'd great to have in this way. 277 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: I love it is the gamification of everything. Apparently two 278 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: of our producers have already. 279 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: Crashed and failed. 280 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: I was very proud of myself because I had a 281 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: go yesterday and actually did manage to balance it out. 282 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: But I mean the problem is is that you well, 283 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: I mean clear whether or not win election on the 284 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: back of it is a whole different debate. I mean, 285 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: this is of course all leading up to the budget 286 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: on March the sixth. What do we know? And actually 287 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: you've been reporting this morning as well about one of 288 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: the measures that the Chancellor is considering, and this is 289 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: around non tax status, something that originally was a labor 290 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: idea to scrap the the this special status for people 291 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: who have income coming from outside the UK. 292 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 9: Yes, I mean the big picture is Joe Hunt simply 293 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 9: doesn't have as much money as he would like to 294 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 9: do giveaways that would help the Conservative Party going into 295 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 9: the election, and they're always looking at measures such as 296 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 9: scrappm at London tax status which could raise some money. 297 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 9: We'll have to see what he does with his final choices. 298 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 299 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 300 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, 301 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 302 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio, 303 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 304 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 305 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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