1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: What's up, Y'all's your girl XP and it's your girl's 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: brain the call. 3 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: And we have a very special announcement. Your girls will 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: be at the Black Effect Network Podcast Festival. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, we're gonna be there April twenty seven, and 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: make sure y'all get y'all tickets at black Effects dot com. 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And let me tell y'all something. 18 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: I am so excited to have you on the couch 19 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: because y'all know I'm a reality TV show queen and honestly, this. 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 4: Is the first for us. 21 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: We've never had a reality start on the show. So 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: we have Clay from Love Is Blood in the building. 23 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: We had delicies. 24 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we had. 25 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Right there, the goat the delicious Clay. 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 5: What's up? Thank you for having me. I'm good, I'm good. 27 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm blessed. I'm sure. 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: So we gonna jump right into the thing. 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 5: Let's do it. 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: I want to talk about, first of all, how has 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: life changed for you since doing Love is Blond. 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: You know, I don't really think life has typically really 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 5: changed for me. I feel like with the rollout of 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 5: is Blind, I've been kind of like having my head 35 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: low because I didn't really get like the best I 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 5: would say overall, you know, response with the public. So 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 5: it's not like I'm like like, hey, I'm Clay, I'm outside, 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 5: Like I kind of just been in my foundation and 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 5: been around my family stuff like that. So nothing really changed, 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 5: honestly besides a social media account, right right. 41 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: So I mean I want to kind of like hop 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: in there because I know you're a big advocate for 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: like mental health, especially for black men, and like I said, 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna hop right into it because I will say, 45 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how reality TV works, never been on 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: reality TV, but I know, like people like you said. 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: Didn't have the best reaction to you. 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: So I know, with being somebody who's on the internet 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: and I put myself out there to be ridiculed. How 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: did you deal with that mentally and dealing with how 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: I mean, because you were getting. 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: Attacked Yeah, left and right. 53 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: It was bad. 54 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: It was bad, So how did you deal with that? 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 5: Like? 56 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: Mentally? 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: So at first it was tough for me to deal with. 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 5: I would say I was always accustomed to looking at 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 5: my phone because I have my own business, so I'm 60 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: used to interacting with people who you know, connect with 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 5: my business. So at first, going through it and people 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: are like my number got leaked and stuff like that. 63 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 5: So a lot of it was coming to my personal life. 64 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 5: So that was tough to adjust with. But honestly, I 65 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 5: feel good, Like I feel like it made me stronger. Like, 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 5: you know, I started clicking on the people who were 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 5: talking stuff about me. Then I'm just like, all right, 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: you know. 69 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: You like we already not my hairline, Crispy talk about me. 70 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 5: You can't talk, you know, So I mean, yeah, I'll 71 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 5: be analyzed, Okay, should I listen to this person? And 72 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 5: it's like at the end of the day, you know, 73 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 5: my sister told me, she said, if you can see 74 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: three negative comments get off. So honestly, I ain't really 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 5: been on any posts. 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: Oh good, that's philosophy. 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: Maybe we should start. 78 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, for me, I can't look at any comments 79 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 5: honestly because three posts like that's like the first three comments. 80 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 5: So it's cool. 81 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: Are you a responder? 82 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 5: You know? Sometimes like if if, if they saying something 83 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 5: outlandish and I'm like, don't you don't deserve to be 84 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 5: talking to me like that, I might say something, but 85 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 5: then I got people on my team and be like, yo, 86 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 5: delete that. 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 4: So do you feel like you have thick skin? 88 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 5: I think I got fixed. I'm sensitive, for sure, but 89 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 5: let me just say this. I'm sensitive in my like 90 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 5: inner circle, but like you know, out you know, externally 91 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 5: and like what the people see like it's definitely thick 92 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 5: scared you know, yeah, right, for sure, you know, but 93 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 5: I do express my vulnerability to my inner circle and 94 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 5: stuff like that. 95 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So I definitely wanted to talk about you being 96 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: a young black entrepreneur, and I wanted to talk about 97 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: your boating company and being a young black man in 98 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: the boating industry with way Sandy water get into that. 99 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 5: So there was a guy in nearmya Davis, that had 100 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 5: event space business. So I try to get into like 101 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 5: the commercial real estate purchasing land and you know, I 102 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 5: honestly open up clubs. Uh. In Charlotte, the pandemic happened, 103 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 5: race kind of went up. I had to deal go through, 104 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 5: so I was kind of bummed out. One of the 105 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 5: things I saw during the pandemic was that there was 106 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 5: a lot of black people on the boat, but we 107 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 5: didn't own any of the equipment, so and then everything 108 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 5: was shut down to Charlotte during the pandemic, but the 109 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 5: boats was popping, so I was like, you know, let 110 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 5: me tap into this industry. I met this dude named 111 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 5: Sean the boat Goat. He was doing that in DC. 112 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 5: I kind of I paid for his mentorship and he 113 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 5: pretty much gave me the game, and I was able 114 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 5: to take this to Charlotte. Now we got three boats, 115 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 5: we got five jet skis, and we're bringing a jet 116 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 5: car to Charlotte, so making Charlotte more. Make sure you 117 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 5: please hit me up, no way. 118 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 1: I can't wait because we're literally we went to Turks 119 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: for my birthday, okay, and that was our first time 120 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: ever being on j car. So we like, okay, now 121 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: we all have in the sights because normally the only 122 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: places they have it is like Turks in Dubai's were obviously. 123 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, they got it in Miami too, so that yeah, yeah, 124 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 5: so the dealer we're going through, we got it from 125 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 5: Dubai but in terms of the base, but you know, 126 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 5: Miami is finishing up the parts. It's a lot that world. 127 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 5: That world is yeah, trying not to get scammed. So 128 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 5: it's a real world. But yeah, we definitely bringing that 129 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 5: to Charlotte this year. 130 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: That's what's up. 131 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: I love that? Okay, So are you from Charlotte. 132 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 5: Originally know I'm from Jersey. 133 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: Originally you're from Jersey. So how did you get to Charlotte? 134 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 5: So I ran track at the University of South Carolina. 135 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 5: They recruited me, so my coach came to my crib 136 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: and I actually committed to Seaton Hall University, which is 137 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 5: in Jersey, to run track. They cut their track program 138 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 5: because there was a thing called Title nine, which means 139 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 5: that it has to be the same amount of women's 140 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: sports as men's sports. So they cut that track program. 141 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 5: My scholarship was voided, and then I went to a 142 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 5: college visit to Tennessee in South Carolina. Side of the 143 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 5: stay in South Carolina and I've been down South ever since. 144 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 4: So do you like the South better? 145 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: You like it now? 146 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 5: The South treat me better hospitality. 147 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. So what you 148 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: like about what do you like about the South? Divinity? 149 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 5: And being from up north, So I would say that, 150 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 5: like when I was in Jersey, like I was kind 151 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 5: of like still trying to understand who I was, like, 152 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 5: you know, although I was an athlete, like in terms 153 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 5: of like my confidence and all that stuff. I really 154 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 5: got that in college, like when I came down South 155 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 5: and I didn't even know that I had, like, you know, 156 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 5: some type of swag, like and when I got to 157 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 5: South Carolina, people are like, are you different? And you 158 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: know that just make you feel good with me? Nobody 159 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 5: nobody telling you that in high school. So I'm like, 160 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 5: oh shit, I might be a little cool and I 161 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 5: don't know. The South kind of gave me a little 162 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 5: bit of my swags, like it's dope. 163 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: And I'm sure you like the women too. 164 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the women, but like, but don't get 165 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 5: to it. I like my old North women too. I 166 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 5: like women all around you know, Yeah, you seem. 167 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: Like a ladies man. I ain't gonna lie. 168 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: Like when I see we got we're. 169 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: About stuck to it. 170 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: Now, we definitely about to get to eat. 171 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: It'll seem like a ladies man, Like, obviously, you know 172 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: you're an attractive guy. You know you do well for yourself. 173 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: So talk about your dating life before Love is Blind. 174 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: Uh So, I mean I was an athlete, so I 175 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: mean he was getting the hub I was getting. I was. 176 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 5: I was outside. But but I would say, like right 177 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 5: before the show, you know, it was like a little 178 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 5: slowed down for me, because you know, any entrepreneur could, 179 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: like I tested this. I'm sure y'all could test to this. 180 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 5: But when you kind of grinding got your business sometimes 181 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 5: like people don't really understand that if they're not in 182 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 5: the same field as you. So I felt like my 183 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 5: dating life was taken a little bit of a hit, 184 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 5: not off of like what I was presenting, but just 185 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 5: off the timing right, and like I didn't have enough 186 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 5: time to like respond and like people get upset. So 187 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 5: I would say when the show was coming out, my 188 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 5: dating life was kind of like plateauing. It wasn't really 189 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 5: that you know, exciting. Of course, if I would have 190 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 5: went outside, it had been popping, but just wasn't like that. 191 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 5: So I felt like with the show, it'd be a 192 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 5: good opportunity for me to find somebody that's like minded 193 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. But you know, I didn't watch 194 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 5: the show, That's what I was kind of telling people that. 195 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, I mean my day life was cool though, 196 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 5: it was cool. 197 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: So how did you find out about the show if 198 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: you wasn't watching me? 199 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 5: They so they recruit you on Instagram and. 200 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: LinkedIn and and I do a test that because remember 201 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: I told you he reminds me of the dude I 202 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: was dating last year and they was definitely in his 203 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: DMS to do it and he declined. So they definitely 204 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: do be on Instagram and stuff and nobody would like. 205 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, like like twenty five hundred followers, so I was 206 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: like real regular. Yeah yeah, So they recruited me and 207 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 5: I did about like seven series of interviews with them. 208 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: Uh and it was like probably like the video interview 209 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 5: where they let me know this is love is blind 210 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 5: because when they first talked to me, it was the 211 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 5: Charlotte single project. 212 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: Oh so you didn't even know it was you know what, 213 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: that makes a lot of sense. I'm not gonna lie 214 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: I I'm kind of skipping some questions, but I'll say this, 215 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: I was kind of like in the end that makes 216 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: sense because you were like, I'm not ready and you 217 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: didn't know you were signing up for a show. 218 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: To get married. 219 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 5: Well, when I first was talking to the producers and everything, 220 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 5: I've always understood that the concept of the show was 221 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 5: to make make a decision at the altar, because even 222 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 5: when I was proposing to a D, I loved a D. 223 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 5: And I told, you know, everybody was like, but yoll engaging, 224 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 5: it's crazy in eight days, you know. But they were like, Clay, 225 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 5: I mean, this is what the show was about. And 226 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's cool, you know, and they like, 227 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 5: you know, one's a couple of guys in the poege 228 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 5: are like, well, you know, Clay is not legally bonding 229 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. And I really did love a D. 230 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 5: Like it was a weird perspective because like I felt 231 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 5: like throughout the whole show, I was batting like reality 232 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 5: in the TV show, It's like, damn, I really want 233 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 5: to rock with this girl. But I don't know. I 234 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 5: just felt like the TV part got in a way 235 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 5: a couple of things, but I received. When people say, 236 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 5: like Clay, you signed up for the show. I ain't 237 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 5: signed up for it, but I probably should have done 238 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 5: a little bit more homework. 239 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because I was just going 240 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: to say, which is crazy, like considering that it's thirteen episodes, Yeah, 241 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: in eight days. 242 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: There's thirteen episodes in six weeks. 243 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: In six weeks yea, oh okay, because I'm. 244 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 5: Like eight days, it's a in terms of engaging, it's 245 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: eight days you got made? So no you heard the 246 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 5: day ten? So like the like the day nine is 247 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 5: when you proposed to whoever you got, and the day 248 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 5: ten is when you actually see what they look like. 249 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 5: And then after that they put you in the hotel 250 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 5: for a couple more days and you don't even so 251 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 5: after you see your your your significant upright, they get 252 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 5: your way from them for like two more days. So 253 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 5: like you just in your head and your thoughts like 254 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 5: what the heck? I just do? 255 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: So just to clarify, when you started doing the first audition, 256 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: did you know it was a show to get married? 257 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: They told me that the that the show, the overall 258 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 5: premises that they want us to get married. They want 259 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 5: you to get me yeah, but they said that. They 260 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 5: always made it clear that you make your decision at 261 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 5: the altar. I never felt pressured by production to get married. 262 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so you kind of knew it was like marriage, 263 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: but you didn't know it was going to be like 264 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: the timeline. 265 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 4: You didn't did you know about the. 266 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: Timeline of it? 267 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? I knew the timeline of it, you know, Like 268 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 5: that's what I was. That's what I was kind of like. 269 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 5: I guess a lot of people are upset with my 270 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 5: decision because me and Ad actually had a good relationship. 271 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 5: I think for me and you know, I've talked about 272 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 5: it a couple of times, but like when you at 273 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 5: the altern you gotta made that decision. I don't know. 274 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 5: I just like it literally was a split decision, like 275 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 5: because me and Ad had a great relationship, especially the 276 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 5: last two weeks of our relationship. And I remember that 277 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 5: Wednesday I was like, I'm about I'm about to be 278 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 5: married and that was crazy. And then that Thursday I 279 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: was like, come on, Clay, like you know what I'm saying. 280 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 5: And then one thing I would say, like with the experiment, right, 281 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 5: so you do the pods. The pods they take away 282 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: your phone, they take away your laptop, they take away 283 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 5: all your stuff, so they put you in a perspective 284 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 5: where the only thing you could think about is love 285 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: and your partner. So it's like not manipulation, but it 286 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 5: just makes you hyper focus on who your partner is. 287 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 5: Then you go to the manic getaway. The romantic getaway 288 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: is kind of more so the sexual tension being around 289 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: each other having physical chemistry. Me and Ad knocked that 290 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 5: part out. The boat was Gucci with that, Yeah, that 291 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 5: was a giddy in that pool, right but U and 292 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 5: then the hardest part, in my opinion, is the third 293 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 5: part of the experiment where you are now in the 294 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 5: real world with your people's and like your family, and 295 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: that's where it gets kind of hectic because you know, 296 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 5: you're with your homegirl, your homeboy, and they like, come 297 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: on now, you're about to get married, Like at it 298 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 5: you just met them, You just met three weeks ago. 299 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 5: So to me, I think that also played a lot 300 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 5: in my factor, like letting other people kind of get 301 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 5: in my brain because I would saying I didn't really 302 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 5: get too much support from like friends and family on 303 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 5: my side with this whole experiment. 304 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: You know, but you also. 305 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: Had said to that you just personally, like outside of 306 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: obviously your family and your friends. You were saying too 307 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: that you felt like you just weren't ready, Like you 308 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: didn't feel like you were going to be a good husband. 309 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: Why do you feel like you weren't ready? 310 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 5: I feel like not that I wasn't ready, Like I 311 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 5: thought that I could get ready. One of the things 312 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 5: I was saying in the when we were filming is 313 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 5: like I wanted to go to therapy with AD where 314 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 5: we could get to that part where, you know, where 315 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 5: I felt confident because although they showed a lot about 316 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 5: me not being ready, I'm gonna be honest, I didn't 317 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 5: think A d was necessarily ready for that as well, 318 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 5: you know, and it's not like you know, she she's 319 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 5: an amazing girl, but like I just felt like marriage 320 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 5: is just a little bit like I feel like people 321 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 5: just talk about marriage and like, you know, just do it, 322 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 5: like this is the person that works for you. But 323 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 5: it's like like divorce kind of split my household up. 324 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 5: So marriage means way more than me than probably the 325 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 5: average person. So I'm not trying to get married and 326 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 5: then you know, end up getting divorced. And also too, 327 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 5: I thought I was ready, like you know how you 328 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: just like you know, you think you prepared for something 329 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 5: until it's time and then you know. For me, I'm 330 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 5: a very introspective guy, so I'm just like looking at 331 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 5: myself and when I got when I especially when I 332 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 5: proposed to a d I was all for it. When 333 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 5: I saw her all for it. I think, really, when 334 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 5: I got to like the real world and like you know, 335 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 5: you see people, life get real, you know what I'm saying. 336 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 5: So I think I got cold feet, honestly, And I 337 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 5: don't know. 338 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: I feel like marriage, as much as it's about love, 339 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: it's also a disney like marriage is a business, which 340 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: is also one of the things that I feel like 341 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: we had wanted to ask you about too, Like do 342 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: you feel like her financial situation obviously, was that one 343 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: of the reasons why you decided not to marry her? 344 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 5: Nah the financial situation. AD had money saved up, so 345 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 5: AD actually set aside time to prepare for the experiment. 346 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 5: And I just didn't understand that from a entrepreneur's perspective, 347 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 5: my job perspective and me Ad kind of lived totally 348 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 5: different lives. I've dated women in night life, so I 349 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 5: understand it in a sense, But they still did something 350 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: where they was like, you know, it was to me, 351 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 5: it was articulated how they got money and with ad finances. 352 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 5: It wasn't a reason for me to like not be 353 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 5: with her. I just thought that I didn't understand enough 354 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 5: for marriage, you know, and like, all right, cool, were 355 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 5: about to be married, our finances are together. So it 356 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 5: was one of the factors, but not like the main factor, 357 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: but it definitely was like one of the factors. I 358 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 5: was just like, I don't know if we're really ready 359 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 5: for this, but I would say to jump all supersed 360 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 5: ahead of that. I think my internal battle what supersedes 361 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: the financial conversation. Right, So, she wasn't broke, she would 362 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 5: never broke. 363 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Now now he said she got money, saying that's what 364 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That was the narrative that people were trying 365 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: to put, like she. 366 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: Was broke, she couldn't bring nothing to the table, and 367 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: like she was kind of like come to get saved basically, 368 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: and you kind of figured that out, that's. 369 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: What I'm. 370 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 5: So, So, you know, maybe and for me, right when 371 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: I was when I was filming it, you know, me 372 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: and A D had conversations in the pause where we 373 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 5: kind of bonded off the entrepreneur spirit and stuff like that. 374 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 5: So you know, I'm thinking like when she gets when 375 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 5: we in the real world, I'm gonna see her get 376 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 5: in to it and not that like like like I 377 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: have my own crib. I got two cribs. I got, 378 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 5: like I know, like I need to like her the 379 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 5: goal like fifty fifty with me, But my whole thing 380 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 5: is like this, right, Like I've seen marriage split up 381 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: because of finances, right, And I'm an aggressive spender, like 382 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 5: when it comes to my entrepreneurship, like I'm buying boats. 383 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 5: Those are like sixty to seventy thousand dollars, So I'm 384 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 5: one bad deal away from you know, I could be 385 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 5: in a hole, right, you know, Like I'm just I'm 386 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 5: just aware of that. So it's like if I can't 387 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 5: be with the woman and and some guys could, but 388 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 5: I'm not in a position right now while I'm making 389 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 5: so much cash where I could just take care of 390 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 5: somebody because I'm taking care of my sister as well. 391 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 5: She live with me. So it's like I can't take 392 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 5: care of two people, and you know some guys can. 393 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 5: And I'm not even listen, I'll lose out to those guys. 394 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 5: I preciend that. 395 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 2: Honesty because I think sometimes a lot of times people 396 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: get themselves in a situation that they, you know, necessarily 397 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: don't want to be in. 398 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 4: So I want to go back to the. 399 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 5: Pause, though, really, yeah, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. 400 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get back. 401 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: To the pause because you did something that low key 402 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 2: I like, but everybody was mad at you about I 403 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: liked it. 404 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: You was dirty, Mack. You are a professional dirty man, 405 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: dirty max so hard. I said, you've been doing this 406 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: for years. 407 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 5: What do you mean, Matthew, I don't know. Yeah, she 408 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 5: told you. Yeah. 409 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: But I get it though, because Matthew was I I 410 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: it don't matter at the end of the day. His 411 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: competition fuck that, And. 412 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: That's the type of energy he was on you. Was like, man, 413 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: you don't want that, and. 414 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: You want me. I'm right here. I love a good 415 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: dirty man. You know you is in the game. You 416 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: won't be real mass. I felt like he Moore, So 417 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: I don't even feel like it was like, oh fuck 418 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: that nigga. 419 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: I feel like he just he was a better competitor. 420 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: I mean, but that's his opinion. 421 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got right there. 422 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: That was exactly I'm glad you admitted that because it 423 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: wasn't even about because you didn't know what. 424 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: Type of conversation she was having with Matthew. You just 425 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: felt like I'm me and I'm him. 426 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: Matthew was speaking the same game to everybody though facts, 427 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: but he didn't know that at the end that he felt. 428 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 4: Like I'm him and I'm not competing with this. 429 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: It's part of it. 430 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 4: Was all straight ego. 431 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: But I like that. I like him a little dirty Max. 432 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna so but look he's back on that. 433 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 5: That's hilarious. 434 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: Did you feel about that moment? 435 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 5: Hey, I thought that was hilarious. 436 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: You be so mad when he walked into the room, 437 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: so you would. 438 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 5: Be like, I'm gonna be honest with you. That's that's editing. 439 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 5: That's editing that I didn't like one thing about me, 440 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 5: my dirty Mac. I'm not gonna let the dude know 441 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 5: he get any type of press dirty. I'm slick with it. 442 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 5: So they edited me were looking like I was looking 443 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 5: at I promise you I was not looking at that. 444 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 5: Because now respect to matt matt making money match, I 445 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 5: think he's in uh he does like investments for like 446 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 5: for businesses, so he's in finance, he's getting that back, 447 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 5: so he might have been having a different conversation with 448 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 5: He might have been like, I'm taking care of you. 449 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 5: I'm not Eve been losing out. You know. I'm looking back, 450 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 5: I'm like Matt saying the same thing two girls, but 451 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 5: shoot ship, yeah, telling let's get out of here right now. 452 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 5: I'm like, that was a hell of cold game at player. 453 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: I respected that. 454 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm a dumb ass. I would have been going, Matthew, 455 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: you know what do you mean it? 456 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, he loved he loved me, And I'm looking back 457 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 5: at like what I was doing in the pause. I 458 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 5: was like, bro, I don't even know how I made it, 459 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: because I was literally in the posset telling girls like, 460 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 5: let's trauma bond. What the hell are we doing here? 461 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 5: You crazy in there? Like I was just like dang man, 462 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: like but one thing, I'll say, me and ad though 463 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 5: it wasn't like that, like me and a d actually 464 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 5: had like a spark from liked now of course just 465 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 5: who I am. I'm gonna say something that gonna get 466 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 5: me in hot waters just because you know I talked 467 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: too much sometimes, I'm saying, but we was we was 468 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: like we had that fire chemistry. Like even what they 469 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 5: show like my negative stuff in the pose that happened 470 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 5: like the first three days, like me and a D 471 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 5: locked in like day four, Matt was out of here 472 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 5: by day four. You know, we was there. We was 473 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: there ten days so and then after every day the 474 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 5: dates get longer. So me like at the day four, 475 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 5: I think day four, we was having like our twenty 476 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 5: minute dates. After day four we was having like three 477 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 5: hour dates. So they didn't really show a lot of 478 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 5: those clips, but you know, it makes sense. The juicy 479 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: stuff was in. 480 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 3: Right right, right right. 481 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: So what you wus say, ask I want to talk 482 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: about the reveal when you saw each other? 483 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, because well I wanted to ask one to go ahead, 484 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: go ahead, you get into the review. So do you 485 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: feel like y'all kind of like gravitated towards each other? 486 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: Because me and Lex was talking about these earlier and 487 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: you could let me know if you think I'm wrong, 488 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: But I feel like black people, we. 489 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: Know black people, boy c. 490 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you was like lie like you can say 491 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: like you like you can tell when you were talking 492 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: to another black person, like wherether you on the phone, 493 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: Like you know you're talking to customer service whatever the case. 494 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know what it is, but it's like 495 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: we just have a distinct Yeah, boy, you are very articulate. 496 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: You as you are. 497 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 5: As you are, I'm gonna throw some like things in 498 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: there were like all right, he got like. 499 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: No, not even I think it's just it's like a 500 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: little it's a thing you feel something you know you 501 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: can't explain it. But I just feel like whenever I'm 502 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: talking to a black person on the phone, I know. 503 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 5: You know it's funny though, I'm gonna be honest with you. 504 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: And y'all were two of the few black people that 505 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: was on the show. 506 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 5: But there was other black women on there. Like I 507 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 5: thought Jess was black. Really, Jess has very just has 508 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: slang in the pause, like you know, I'm not looking 509 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 5: at her. I thought she was like not like she was. 510 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 5: I ain't think she was full black. 511 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: That's I said, come on, thought she was racial. 512 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put I'm gonna put the white flag and 513 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: me and Jess probably only like only I was on 514 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 5: the posit with just like maybe like two days. So 515 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 5: I'm just saying that, like sometimes you don't know you 516 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 5: know what I mean, because you didn't I don't think 517 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 5: AD knew I was black till like D three. Okay, yeah, 518 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 5: you know, she ain't really know because we only dated 519 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 5: fifteen minutes. You know, I put my you know, my 520 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 5: corporate voice. 521 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: Okay, that's like, you know, I guess because I worked 522 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: in the corporate world for so long. 523 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: Like I can just tell, but I can tell. Like 524 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: that's why I was wondering. 525 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: I was like, did you and AD just pick each 526 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: other because y'all were like, Okay, we're black, we can get. 527 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: Some air time. 528 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: Nah. Nah. Because I was talking to I had another 529 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 5: person I was talking to as well that we was 530 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 5: have a connection. But I mean it ain't. It didn't 531 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 5: last long. Like I do want to prefaceize, like me 532 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 5: and A D was rocking each other from day four 533 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 5: to doing so like anybody talked to for three days. 534 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 5: Let's let's be realistic, Like you ain't bringing up nobody 535 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: talked to for three days. I don't even want to 536 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 5: get that right in two days. So I'm a yo, 537 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 5: I'm that's a fact I couldn't be in todays depending 538 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: on how you look. 539 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: What's your sign? 540 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 5: I'm a virgo Virgo. 541 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: Virgo gang was a virgo that is surprising you are. 542 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 5: I'm a toy our sciences, Bible. 543 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: I know ourth signs be vibbing with each other. I'm 544 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: really surprised that you be in love in todays, I'm. 545 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 5: Very I'm a skipt I'll be skeptical, but like i'd 546 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 5: be like, you know, like if I see something that 547 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 5: I like, I'd be like, I'll be convincing my you 548 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like I'm an over thingsion, delusion. 549 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 5: We know. 550 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: It's the whole season. 551 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: We know. 552 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 5: Now I'll be living in my own little bubble. But 553 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 5: it's all good. I like my bubble. 554 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: But I will say, Clay, I'm I'm very delusional as 555 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: we I think delusion could be good sometimes, yeah, it can. 556 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 4: It can be a good thing. So now I want 557 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: to talk about the reveal. 558 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: Okay, the reason I want to talk about the reveal 559 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: because obviously eighty is a very attractive one. 560 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 4: Is so. 561 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: Is ad your typical type that you date? Like, if 562 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: you think about the women that you dated before a 563 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: d is that does she fall in the category of 564 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: the women that you usually date? 565 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 5: I think in terms of like relationships, if I showed 566 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 5: you all the women that I dated they all had 567 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 5: different body types, you know, skin complex and what Ray 568 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 5: Shermer said, I ain't got no type, you know, Like honestly, now, 569 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 5: I do know usually date black women. I'll say black women, 570 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 5: Spanish women, just being from Jersey was a heavy Dominican 571 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 5: and Puerto Rican community, but in terms of like who 572 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 5: actually met my mom black women? So you know, I 573 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 5: heard that, But I was attracted to Ad. I felt 574 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 5: like our physical was the best part of our relationship, honestly. 575 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: So right well, I think what the issue was is 576 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: like people thought that you were attracted to her like body, 577 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: but it was kind of like that's where it stopped 578 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: because a lot of times, like I'm not gonna lie, 579 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: this was my interpretation ahead, so you can clear it 580 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: up for me. 581 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: I felt like you were attracted to her physically. I 582 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: felt like she was a little too cookie cutter for you. 583 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: What you mean by cookie I think they like, you 584 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: want like a bad girl, like somebody that's fun and 585 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: turned up and kind of challenged you a little bit. 586 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: I think Ad, obviously if you tign up the show, 587 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: you want to get married. I think a d this 588 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: is no shade to her because I think she's a 589 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: beautiful woman. 590 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: I was always rooting for Ad. 591 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 2: I think she's gonna be an amazing wife to somebody. 592 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: But I think I have a friend like this that 593 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: we know is sometimes when we want to get married 594 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: so bad, they become cookie cutter and they will mold 595 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: themselves to be exactly what this man, what they think 596 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: this man wants to be. And I think Ad was 597 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: trying so hard to fit in what a mold of 598 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: what she thought that she wanted to be. 599 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: I think it kind of bored you a little bit, 600 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: you gay. 601 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 602 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 2: I think you were you were you look bored. Sometimes 603 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: it was given that you were bored a little bit. 604 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: So I think like when you saw her, you were like, okay, cool, 605 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: Like this is cool. You was like, I can work 606 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: with that. I wish I would walk in the room 607 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 2: and niggas tell me I can work with that. 608 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah I can work with that. Class Given I could 609 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: work with that, then like if I was like I 610 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: would just be like, yeah, you do one. 611 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 5: Well, So you was mad if I'm an okay body commentary, it. 612 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 2: Was always that body is tea. I know my body 613 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: needs a man to look at When my man looks 614 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: at me, he'd be like, you are so beautiful. 615 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. I don't understand why every time 616 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 5: I compliment her body, Like literally the wedding scene where 617 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 5: I said, okay, body please, I really wish I had 618 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 5: to scream just fast for a minute, just fast forward 619 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 5: a minute. I said you look so beautiful twice Nobody, nobody. 620 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 5: I feel like nobody even picked that up. It's like, bro, 621 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 5: like I said she was beautiful sometimes that I didn't 622 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 5: go into the edit as well, but like at the 623 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 5: wedding for sure, for sure, which I got killed, like 624 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 5: it's on the episode. I had to watch it back 625 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 5: just to make sure, like, please tell me if I'm wrong. 626 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean before the wedding though you saw 627 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: her for the first I can work with that. 628 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I did what you meant by that, because you know, 629 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 5: it's an unorthodox process where you don't see what the 630 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 5: people look like. So I was just kind of making 631 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 5: a reference probably to that experiment, like, yeah, I could 632 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 5: work with that. You know, I thought Ad was attracted. 633 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 5: I'm not tracked to her face. Okay, so you are, 634 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 5: I'm attractive. And then I want to kind of chime 635 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 5: in with you said, I think Ad was fun. I 636 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 5: was never bored in our relationship. I feel like off camera, 637 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 5: me and A D had a good vibe, Like AD 638 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 5: is a type of girl I would date. Like when 639 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 5: we was off camera, I like a sexual girl. I 640 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 5: like a girl that's fun. AD was all that, She's bubbly, 641 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 5: She's like she lit, you know what I'm saying. So 642 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 5: it was okay. 643 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: So the chemistry was indeed there. 644 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 5: The chemistry was definitely there. It was I thought. I 645 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 5: thought Netflix did a not the best job of showing 646 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 5: our chemistry. I feel like if you talk to anybody 647 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 5: in the cast cast members, they say that the relationship 648 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 5: that they were most disappointed was me and A D 649 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 5: because we have magnetic chemistry. 650 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: Okay, because I'm not gonna lie I didn't see I didn't. 651 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: I didn't see it either, washing it that sparked that 652 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: fire because I'm a fire sign. 653 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: I need that passion. I need that. 654 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: So I'm like, where is it? 655 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 5: Same saying where is it? You know? 656 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: Okay? 657 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 5: So and also too, I mean you could protest as 658 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 5: being Earth sign, but like it's a little slower for 659 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 5: us to get that. 660 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: Like, no, I don't got that time it. I mean, well, yeah, 661 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: I do but that's first of all, don't listen to her, 662 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: as she'd be lying because all she dated Earth signed 663 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I bet and may be falling in love. 664 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: After the second day legs have dated a Virgo, she was. 665 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: Like, it's your experience with virgos, my virgo experience literally 666 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: first date, first date we went on, he was like 667 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: obsessed with me. We was kissing, making out like I have. 668 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: Even though I do date a lot of Earth signs, 669 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: it's never been slow boogie with me. 670 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: Niggas fall in love with me very quickly. 671 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm a good time. 672 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 5: See my fire sign experience, though, I feel like that's 673 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 5: just probably like that chemistry because I feel like with 674 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 5: the fire stigns I messed with it, do pop off 675 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 5: kind of like yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all, don't play, y'all, 676 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 5: don't play. 677 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: I feel the same way too. 678 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: Every fire sign experience I've had, like dating a fire 679 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: signing like it's quick, it's quick. 680 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 5: I just feel like for Earth times were so chill, 681 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 5: like we kind of like that, like we trying. 682 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: To peep the scene. 683 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: I feel like we be trying to feel the other 684 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: person ye first, before we figure out how we gone 685 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: maneuver and how we're gonna move. Were trying to see 686 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: what you want. 687 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: So I do want to ask this question because that's 688 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: going to lead you to our first topic. 689 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: We've been talking, we've been chatting. We got some more stuff. 690 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: Well before we get into the first topee, oh, go ahead, 691 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: we got an X time. 692 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 5: What are we drinking today? 693 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: Already? 694 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? 695 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: I love that. So this drink of the week is 696 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: called the Love is Blind, and our guests likes whiskey, 697 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: so we have some whiskey in there. We have some 698 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: raspberry liquor, some lemon juice, and a little bit of 699 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: a gave. We have some feet foam, so that's what's 700 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: giving us kind of like that thick top and then 701 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of bitters on top, and then as 702 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: the garnish, we have a beautiful basil and some raspberry 703 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: perfect for spring, summertime, getting in that zone we. 704 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: Outside looking for our boom. 705 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: Okay period. 706 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 4: I like this. 707 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: It's very good. You like your drink. 708 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 5: I like it. I'm really feeling that I need to. 709 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: Try to what's up y'all? As your girl lex Peen 710 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: and is your girl dragging a call La? We haven't 711 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: seen y'all since last year and we coming. 712 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: Back in a big way. 713 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: We on our motherfucking road. 714 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 5: You're you're. 715 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: What's good? Oh? You gotta okay? So I've been saying 716 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: here so it's him, fuck out of him, Suck out 717 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: of here, bitch. Yeah that ass you got me fucked up? Son? 718 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: Oh you did that? Sign out of here? Aqua pena. 719 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 5: Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh. 720 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: Y'all know, first of all, I love the Whist Coast. 721 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: We always have a time. Last year we had our 722 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: show out there and y'all was lead. We had the 723 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: best cloud ever. So I can't wait to see y'all again. 724 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: I know y'all gonna turn up for us and were 725 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: coming out there again for the Netflix Festival. 726 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: Yes, Netflix is a joke fest. May tenth will be 727 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: at the Miracle Theater at seven thirty pm. I'm telling 728 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: you get your tickets right now. This is a show 729 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: you are not going to want to miss. So what 730 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna do is go to Netflix is a joke 731 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: dot com. Get your tickets May tenth, poor minds seven 732 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: point thirty. 733 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be lead. 734 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: We gonna be there. Y'all need to be there, period, And. 735 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: Y'all know we're gonna have some special guest slide through 736 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: just waiting see. 737 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 2: Were y'all able to drink in the part? Yeah, we're 738 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: drinking and going on the dates and stuff like that. 739 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that. 740 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 4: Kind of affected No? 741 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. 742 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: So I do want to ask this question because Johnny 743 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: and Amy were the only couple who got married this season. 744 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: They were very healthy in their communication. Their spark was there. 745 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: They rarely got in an argument and disagreements. It was 746 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: very healthy, beautiful love, and they put the people to sleep. 747 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: I was fast. 748 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 4: Shut out to y'all, but I'm not gonna lie. 749 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a snap fast forwarding 750 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: through their scenes. 751 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 4: I was, I'm not gonna lie. 752 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: I was I was going to see what was going 753 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: on with you and A definitely going to see what 754 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: was going on with Jimmy and Chelsea, and then like 755 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: Ken and Brittany, even though they didn't last, I was 756 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: interested to see what that was. 757 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: I just we liked drama. 758 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: So this goes into the first topic. Do you feel 759 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: like healthy relationships are boring? 760 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 5: That's a great question. I think when healthy people give 761 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 5: me perspective on like how to be married, it doesn't 762 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 5: really connect like that because I just feel like, especially men, 763 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 5: I kind of need a dude to give me perspective 764 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 5: that he kind of been outside a little bit. Yeah, 765 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 5: he's been through some stuff, like a reform dude. You 766 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying that probably I'll just talk to 767 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 5: my therapist. I said, I think I probably need my 768 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 5: wife need to be reformed. 769 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: A reformed I know, I agree with that, So I 770 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: need we need a little spot. 771 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 3: I mean, I can understand it, though I do. 772 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: I would like a perspective from somebody if I really 773 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: do have to think about it, who has been through 774 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: shiit in a marriage, like real shit and they persevered 775 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: and they got through the sheet versus like they're just 776 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: like we've just always been so in love since day one, 777 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: and like it's just been perfect. He's never cheated, he's 778 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: never did anything. I've never stepped outside of the marriage. 779 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that like you should cheat, you 780 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I'm just saying, like even 781 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: with like financial things, like it's beyond cheating, it's beyond infidelity. 782 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: But just like, have y'all been through some ship or 783 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: have it been peachy? 784 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 5: And I need to figure out from a dude, like 785 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 5: how did you deal with like nothing, Like, yeah, well, 786 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 5: you know Johnny. Me and Johnny actually had that conversation 787 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 5: at the Bachelor party. It was air and you know, 788 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 5: and I love Johnny. Me and Johnny's actually one of 789 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 5: the closest guys that I'm you know, cool with on 790 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 5: the show. But we don't really see eye to eye 791 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: when it comes to like the relationship part, because you know, 792 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 5: I just feel like me the way I grew up, 793 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,959 Speaker 5: you know, like I need to talk to a guy 794 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 5: that see how he with stamps temptation because I feel 795 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 5: like with that was another thing that was on my head, 796 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 5: like have I really put in the work too, Like 797 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 5: if a bad chick just comes up to me and 798 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 5: you know, I've been there with Ady for six weeks, 799 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 5: like truth be told, I loved her, but like it 800 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 5: wasn't a foundation to me that was like internal, it 801 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 5: was like I love this girl, but like this is cool. 802 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 5: It'd be some bad women outside and like and like 803 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 5: I hate, like I hate the inter gonna kill me 804 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 5: for this, but like you know, you know that they 805 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 5: out there, you know what I'm saying. But this is 806 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 5: the thing though, I like and I always knew that, 807 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 5: but like I wasn't really in that. Like I said 808 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 5: in the beginning, I wasn't in that mindset. And then 809 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 5: when I'm about to get married, it's like, dang, Like, 810 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 5: did I like is just all gone? Like did I 811 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 5: like work on myself to know that temptation ain't gonna 812 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 5: leave me astray? You know what I'm saying. So that's 813 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 5: what I'm doing now, honestly, to make sure that that's 814 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 5: not a problem. 815 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 4: So when it came to talk. 816 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 5: About that good stuff, they're like, let's get out of 817 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 5: here good back to toxic. 818 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: I just feel like, do you feel like the reason 819 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: like you didn't agree to say yes? 820 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: Like you said, it's because you weren't ready, But was 821 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: it because like you wasn't ready to give up going outside? 822 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 5: No? No, No, it was a multiple thing. I mean 823 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 5: I think there was a that was definitely like in 824 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 5: the back of my head, but like that's probably in 825 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 5: every man's head about to get married, you know what 826 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 5: I'm saying. I like, men don't keep it real with 827 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 5: women on a one on one basis, but they keep 828 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 5: it real with other men, you know what I'm saying. 829 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 5: So so when I when I talked to guys. They 830 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 5: they pound me, they shay, Like, Bro, I appreciate what 831 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 5: you're saying. Married men for twenty years. I asked this 832 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 5: one dude. He met me at the airport and he 833 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 5: was like so and throwt he wanted that conversation with 834 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 5: me at I said, bro, Like, like, tell me about 835 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 5: your perspective on marriage. I said, Bro, it's tough. It's tough. 836 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 5: Like I said, what's your advice for me? He told me, 837 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 5: wait on forty five. Married men tell me merry men 838 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 5: all the time tell me to wait, and I feel 839 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 5: like I don't want to do that, so like I'm 840 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 5: trying to like get to That's why I'm like, it's 841 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 5: constant you no searching of like okay, that that perception 842 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 5: to kind of like let it click for marriage. And 843 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 5: this is what I'm working for because I want to 844 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 5: be a husband and I want to have kids. I 845 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 5: want I don't want to wait on forty five, Like 846 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 5: I would love to find a woman like this year 847 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 5: like and be locked down, like I want to have 848 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 5: a relationship, but i'mnna be honest, and I just feel 849 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 5: like it's not that popular. Like guys, we have our 850 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 5: own type of cold language. And we don't really speak 851 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,479 Speaker 5: that much with women because were women because we're gonna 852 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 5: get judged, you know. And I feel like when I 853 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 5: was transparent with it, you know, men see that, they 854 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 5: see that, They're like, yo, this dude was saying a 855 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 5: lot of stuff that I feel and he got ridicue 856 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 5: from it. 857 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: So what was their perspective, like as far as like, 858 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, some of the meaning that you were talking 859 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: to when they was like, oh, you shouldn't get married 860 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: to you with forty five, Like, what was the reason. 861 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 5: They feel as though that? I think for them, I 862 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 5: think I'm not listening to their advice because I think 863 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 5: they came from a perspective of they see what's going 864 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 5: on in my life and they're like, man, I really 865 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 5: wish I could have been married later on the life. 866 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 5: I wish I would have had a little more fun 867 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 5: before I locked in. And also too, like you know, 868 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 5: I think for guys, man, I think that temptation, especially 869 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 5: if you're getting money and like you just kind of 870 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 5: just you know, you use outside you got a relationship 871 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 5: that's not really a talked about thing with men, but 872 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 5: like that's a tough transition for like any guy that 873 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 5: you know, goes from high volume of women, so now 874 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 5: you just with one, and it's like there ain't no 875 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 5: platform when men talk about that struggle, you know, and 876 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 5: then like when you say it, women like well damn, 877 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 5: Like I'm I'm like, I'm so good. I should be 878 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 5: that one person. It's like, yeah, you are that good, 879 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 5: you should be that one person. But it's like it's 880 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 5: anybody going through the addiction. Like I'll be you know, 881 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 5: I'll be doing my little dabble with my you know, 882 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 5: my draw you know whatever, my drugger choice is. It's 883 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 5: hard sometimes put it down, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 884 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 5: it's just it ain't It ain't the easiest thing. I 885 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 5: think for men, I think we got we kind of 886 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 5: came from a perspective of like we idolize having multiple 887 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 5: women having success, like where we're not really idolizing things 888 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 5: that we should like family and and like that foundation 889 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 5: of love. We idolize the wrong thing. I think for 890 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 5: the black community, we you know, we hear it all time, 891 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 5: even from women, high value men and and all this 892 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,439 Speaker 5: other stuff. So you chasing different certain things and then 893 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 5: you lose yourself in that. 894 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 2: You know, well, I agree to that that testament as 895 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 2: far as like what we idolize, because I do want 896 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 2: to talk to you about this a little bit too, 897 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 2: because your dad was on. 898 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 4: The last episode. 899 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, a lot of the season you 900 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: were talking about how you felt like you were gonna cheat, 901 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 2: and you know, there. 902 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: Was a whole ongoing joke because. 903 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: Everybody was like Ady could be like, hey, babe, what 904 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 2: you want for breakfast? 905 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: Well, I'm a cheat, So what you cooking? 906 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 4: Because I'm a cheat? 907 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: And it was like a lot like every time it 908 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: was like every time she would bring up everything, it 909 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: came back to you and how you felt like you 910 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: just could not be faithful. So in the last episode, 911 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: we were introduced to your father, and I'm not gonna lie. 912 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: I felt like it was the whole season when I 913 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 2: was watching and you were talking about like the infidelity 914 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: and how you were like it was hard for you 915 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: to settle down, which I'm glad. 916 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: That you told your truth, but. 917 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 2: It was like you kept saying a lot about what 918 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: you saw in your parents, what was going on between 919 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: your parents. But I'm not gonna lie. When I saw 920 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: your daddy and I heard yo, I'm not I'm being honest, 921 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 2: and I saw your daddy talking. I said, Oh, he 922 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 2: a player, player from the Himalaya. I seen where you 923 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 2: get that shit from. 924 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: Cause even the way and even the way he was 925 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: talking to your mama, cause he was like, hey, he 926 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: was ready to take your mama out for a date 927 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: that night that she was gonna go. 928 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, And I love your mother. 929 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: She was so well spoken and well poised, and you 930 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: could tell she was like, I don't be trying to 931 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 2: have this conversation with me right now. So do you 932 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 2: feel like that goes into our second time? It's like 933 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: it's cheating a learned behavior, because I honestly I thought 934 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 2: a lot of the things that you were. 935 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 4: Saying was bullshit. 936 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 2: But when I saw your dad and then how you 937 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: spoke on your dad and how much you look up to. 938 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: Him, Yeah, I think a lot of. 939 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 2: The things that you have learned from your behaviors it's 940 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: from your dad. 941 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean my dad. I want 942 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 5: to say, I want to say, just before I get 943 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 5: into this, like my dad's put in the work. He's 944 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 5: definitely he had a conversation with the family apologized because 945 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 5: I don't think he really knew the things that was happening, Uh, 946 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 5: that was affecting us, like especially me and my little brother. 947 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 5: You know, he really looks at us like his children. 948 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 5: So he really poured into us the best way he could. 949 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 5: But when it comes to my relationships, it you know, 950 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 5: didn't really like manifest inter her like where I could 951 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 5: get relationship. But my dad, in terms of my entrepreneurship, 952 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 5: my goal get in like he poured into that. He 953 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 5: like he always told me like never let you know, 954 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 5: don't depend on nobody, always be independent. So I feel 955 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 5: like a lot of my good attributes I got from 956 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 5: my dad, so you know, but you know, in terms 957 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 5: of how I went about relationships, I looked at women 958 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 5: like soldiers in a sense, you know, from they're supposed 959 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 5: to go through, not go through something, not go through something. 960 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 5: But like the way how I was kind of brought up, 961 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 5: and not just from my dad, but just like my 962 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 5: grandfather as well, who passed away, you know, just like hey, 963 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 5: you know women in your life, like when I was 964 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 5: let's say, like my bad let me break up. So 965 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 5: when I was running track, you'll finish track practice at 966 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 5: seven pm. My grandpa sometimes be pissed that I got 967 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 5: to pick you up at seven pm. Why can't you 968 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 5: get one of your female friends to take you Always 969 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 5: kind of like, hey, you should have women help you 970 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 5: out with certain things, you know what I'm saying. So 971 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 5: I mind you, in high school, I was a little geek, 972 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 5: you know, I wasn't really I was just an athlete. 973 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 5: I wasn't really that guy until I got to college, 974 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So this is all stuff 975 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 5: that when I'm growing up, this is all in the 976 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 5: back of my head because it's not like I was 977 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 5: like getting women in high school and doing our stuff. 978 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 5: It just was talk to me when I wasn't. So 979 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 5: this is how I'm thinking that the relationships are supposed 980 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 5: to go, you know what I'm saying, Because I really 981 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 5: didn't have like a relationship in high school. I really 982 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 5: was gonna in the books focused on sports. But I'm 983 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 5: still having these conversations with the men in my life 984 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 5: and also too, the cool guys. They was cheating guys, 985 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 5: I was getting the girls they had all they had 986 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 5: multiple women. So like I get it, and what I'm 987 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 5: saying ain't popular. But like in society, the men that 988 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 5: are praised, especially in the black community, have multiple women 989 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 5: and to me when I was kind of growing up. 990 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 5: That's what I was idolizing, Like I wanted that. I 991 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 5: wanted that like accolade. I wanted that respect that those 992 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 5: men had because I felt like me being a good 993 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 5: guy and other people contesters. I feel like me being 994 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 5: a good guy was not working. Like I adopted. 995 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: To that though. Yeah, I mean, and I also to 996 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of piggyback of what you said. I feel like 997 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: a lot of women are raised to feel like their 998 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: words is like valued by what they can endure. Yeah, 999 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: like what what you're willing to put up with. And 1000 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: then like sometimes you know, older generations, they'll like be like, well. 1001 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta stick by your man. 1002 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be easy, Like whatever whatever is going on, 1003 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: you gotta stay by your man, because a good man 1004 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: is hard to find. I do feel like people are 1005 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: raised that way and it's over. And that's just not 1006 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: in the black community either, that's in every community. Like 1007 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: you're as a woman, you kind of just talk to 1008 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 1: like turn the blind eye to a lot of sheep. 1009 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: As long as he's providing, as long as he's taking 1010 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: care of the household, as long as he's doing what 1011 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: he needs to do. 1012 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,919 Speaker 3: Quote unquote as a man like. 1013 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: All of the other sheep that is not really going right, 1014 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: and a relationship is okay because it's about like you 1015 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: being a Woman's about you being strong and being there 1016 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: for your man and kind of being like the backbone. 1017 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah so no, so piggybacking off of that, do you 1018 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 2: feel like your mom made the right decision and like 1019 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 2: getting a divorce from your dad? 1020 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, ultimately I think it was the right decision, 1021 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 5: but I don't know. 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And I feel 1028 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 5: like people are just like very hyper like I wasn't seventeen. 1029 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: This episode is sponsored by Better Help. 1030 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 2: What's Up, y'all is Your Girl XP and it's your 1031 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 2: Girls ray Laico And one thing we are gonna tell 1032 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 2: y'all about every week is to go to therapy, get 1033 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 2: you some better help, get you some better Help. 1034 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 3: Y'all's super easy, super convenient. 1035 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: All you have to do is go on the app 1036 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: and you can talk to your therapists anytime you need to. 1037 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: And they make it super convenient and easy to change 1038 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: therapists if you don't like your therapies. 1039 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 3: And on top of that, it is suffordable. 1040 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 2: Yes, all this is done in the comfort of your 1041 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 2: own home, so no more having to go out find 1042 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 2: a therapist doing all this research. 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Men, it's a different dynamic. 1062 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 5: I'm talking about in corporate sales management. I've seen it, 1063 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 5: like I don't be seeing to me in my eyes, 1064 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 5: like marriage, it's like a guy holding down the household, 1065 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 5: but like the commitment is a great area when I 1066 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 5: talk to men. That's just my opinion. 1067 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: But why do you think men are not comfortable talking 1068 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: to women about things as comfortable as they are were 1069 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: like talking today. Do you feel like it's because they 1070 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: feel like women are not gonna understand them. 1071 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 5: I remember when I was talking to one of my friends, 1072 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 5: she was one of my homegirls, and she was kind 1073 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 5: of telling me the guys that she was attracted to, 1074 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 5: and I was letting her know, I said, good luck, 1075 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard to tie down some of those guys. 1076 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 5: Like she kind of like, you know, the typical I 1077 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 5: want you know this like to me who she was, 1078 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 5: I feel like she's a good girl, and I feel 1079 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 5: like the type of guy she should get was probably 1080 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 5: a line to something that had the same interest to her. 1081 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 5: But she's like one of them good girls like them 1082 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 5: bad guys. And I was like, I don't think that's 1083 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 5: your way because these guys are used to talking to 1084 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 5: multiple women and they're getting money like the guys she wants, 1085 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 5: you know, the typical situation. 1086 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 4: And I think it's. 1087 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: It's different categories because technically you could say you that 1088 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: god to though. 1089 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm willing to put that work into to 1090 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 5: get better. That's why I say it's all about interviewing. 1091 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 5: You got to interview really well because like when you're dating, 1092 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 5: you got to understand where that person foundation, family dynamic. 1093 00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 5: I think a lot of stuff matter, like people would 1094 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 5: be like some stuff shouldn't matter, loves matter. Now I 1095 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,760 Speaker 5: need to know you you got, how is your family dynamic? 1096 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 5: You got brothers, you got what's like? What's up? You know, 1097 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 5: because that a lot of some of that stuff plays 1098 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 5: a factor. Like marriage ain't a simple thing like I 1099 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 5: think people try to make it seem it's a you 1100 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 5: you emerging families as well, you know what I'm saying. 1101 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,919 Speaker 5: So if you have families that don't like each other, 1102 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 5: that's awkward during Thanksgiving, I can make the relationship, you know, plateau. 1103 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 5: I have no relationships where the families didn't get along. 1104 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 5: That called struggles and they got divorced years later. Because 1105 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 5: you don't have no support, you don't have nobody backing 1106 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 5: it up. That stuff matters. 1107 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, But do you feel like your fear of 1108 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: commitment and. 1109 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 2: Maybe like you being afraid that you're gonna cheat or 1110 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 2: if you have cheated in the past and relationships, do 1111 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 2: you feel like that was a learned behavior. 1112 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 5: No, I think it wasn't a learned behavior. I think 1113 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 5: I just I tried to adopt that persona to be 1114 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 5: seen and I got caught up up in there. You know, 1115 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 5: I don't think my I don't think anything that my 1116 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 5: dad did taught me because my dad was having all 1117 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 5: those conversations with me. I had my first girlfriend, I 1118 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 5: was committed to her, I got my heart broken, didn't 1119 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 5: cheat on her. I was a good guy and just 1120 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 5: got my heart broken, like good guys. Like what I'm 1121 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 5: trying to say, like this is your villain origin story 1122 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 5: because I'm not trying to be a villain. Like I'm 1123 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 5: going to therapy so I could like unlearned behavior, you 1124 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like truthfully, like honestly, like I 1125 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 5: don't think having sex with multiple women for guys is 1126 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 5: a good thing to do. I think you're intertwining too 1127 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 5: many energies. I think that you're constantly comparing, and I 1128 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 5: would I really wish that you know that I was 1129 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 5: still the same good guy in high school. I really 1130 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 5: wish I had the confidence to say, like who I 1131 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 5: was was good enough. But I didn't feel like that, 1132 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,280 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like I wasn't getting women 1133 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 5: coming up to me and saying, Clay, you good looking 1134 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 5: and you're attractive. Women weren't seeing me. I wasn't getting 1135 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 5: guys coming up to me like Clay, you that nigga, 1136 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 5: Like I wasn't getting none of that. So it wasn't 1137 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 5: until I started winning track meets women started liking me, 1138 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 5: I started getting money. Now I'm getting that validation like, oh, 1139 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 5: I'm that guy, and that gets in your head like, 1140 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 5: you know, not no villain or it's just ego, Like 1141 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, That ego just kind of 1142 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 5: ramp it up. So that's why I said, when it 1143 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 5: comes to men, we got to have conversation with men 1144 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 5: that are in the same like elk with us. Because 1145 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 5: if I talk to some guy that I've been in 1146 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,280 Speaker 5: a committed relationship since he was fifteen. I'm not gonna 1147 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 5: relate relate to that. Understand what you're going Yeah, because like, bro, 1148 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 5: you've been with the same girl since she was fifteen, 1149 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 5: I've been facing temptations from fifteen to thirty. You know 1150 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 5: that's and. 1151 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 3: What do y'all think about that? 1152 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: Because you know, typically in the Bible it says you're 1153 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: supposed to meet that one person, settle down. Like dating 1154 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: really is not supposed to be a thing, because it's 1155 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: like you're supposed to like meet somebody and get to 1156 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: know them for a little bit, then y'all get married, right, Yeah, 1157 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,320 Speaker 1: that's why technically we're not supposed to have six before 1158 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: marriage because it's like dating isn't really supposed to be 1159 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: like this long, drawing out thing. Like you meet a person, Okay, 1160 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 1: like I'm bobbing with them. I feel like they the 1161 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: one we get married. So I don't know, Like what 1162 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: do y'all think about that? 1163 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 5: Okay? Like what ad said, you got a test drive. 1164 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 4: I'm I'm not gonna lie. 1165 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 1: She don't got a test drive, guard and wasn't having 1166 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 1: sex yet. It was Brittany, And yeah, Brittany, I'm sorry, 1167 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 1: Like it's just not happening. I feel like we are 1168 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: in a society where, of course people do over sexualize people. 1169 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: I feel like they were definitely over sexualizing a d 1170 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: in some things. I felt like it was all about her. 1171 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 4: Body and the way she looks. 1172 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 2: An Ad is very smart, she's educated, she's beautiful. It's 1173 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 2: but it was more about her body and a lot 1174 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 2: of times so I need it. But at the same time, 1175 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 2: sex is natural. Sex makes the world operate. If we 1176 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 2: don't have sex and create, the world came operate. But 1177 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 2: sex is natural, true, but we're technically not supposed to 1178 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 2: be pro creating before Mary. 1179 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: That's that's that's cool, and I get that. However, I 1180 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: agree with both of y'all because I personally feel like 1181 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: I gotta test drop the cards. Sex. 1182 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 2: It's important in the relationship, right. I cannot be with 1183 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 2: somebody who the sex is not. 1184 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 1: You know what. 1185 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 4: Since beginning here, I. 1186 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: Was gonna say this, Oh yeah, let's go ahead, it 1187 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: too the big bow, the big bow, the big bow 1188 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: bow bow bow about Okay, Well let me I'm gonna 1189 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: bring I'm the topic en, So we definitely want us 1190 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: to talk about like good sex and a bad situation 1191 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 1: like having great sex with somebody, but you know when 1192 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: it's a situation that you don't need to be in, 1193 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: and obviously like it's not necessarily. 1194 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 3: That you and a d situation was like a bad situation. 1195 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: But y'all definitely keeps talking about how good the sex was, 1196 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: and like even with watching the reunion, well she did, 1197 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: she did. There was a. 1198 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 2: Scene where she was talking about like, you know, yeah, 1199 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 2: she was saying, you know, like you five, she's gone 1200 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 2: a few you know, interviews. 1201 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, second there, so maybe not you, but yes, 1202 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: like definitely have heard putting it on your class. You 1203 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: ain't got the line. We know she was putting it 1204 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: on you. That's why you walked down that all you 1205 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: was still like decided okay, wait, so so I wanted 1206 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: to see and I wanted to segue into like, okay, 1207 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: so obviously on the reunion, like when y'all were having 1208 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: a discussion of conversation and she was just kind of 1209 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,879 Speaker 1: like they had asked her Vanessa, I think or Nick 1210 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,240 Speaker 1: had asked her, so would you like date him again? 1211 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 3: And she was like no comments, she want to move 1212 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 3: on to the next question. 1213 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: I feel like, is that because the sex was fired. Like, 1214 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 1: even though you was very clear about the fact that 1215 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,439 Speaker 1: you didn't want to get married and you wasn't ready 1216 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: for that, she's still like, well, I don't know, I 1217 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: might spend the block because I mean D five, Yeah, 1218 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 1: that's what it was given to me. And I feel 1219 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: like sometimes sex be clouding the judgment definitely, and it 1220 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: will keep you in a situation where it's like, you know, 1221 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,879 Speaker 1: this is not your future. You know, it's not about 1222 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: to be your husband. You notice, not the nigga that 1223 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,959 Speaker 1: you're gonna be with. But like the sex, because sex 1224 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: be crazy, and I feel like it probably be the 1225 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: same thing for me. 1226 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:28,479 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1227 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 2: Do you feel like the sex kind of clouded a 1228 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 2: lot of things that y'all had going on? Though, because 1229 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 2: obviously y'all have sexual chemistry, Like, we're right, we. 1230 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,760 Speaker 4: Have sex, It's okay. 1231 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1232 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: So do you feel like the sex that. 1233 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,240 Speaker 2: You and ad were having, Like, did that make things 1234 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 2: more complicated for you? 1235 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah? Uh, when you have fire sex with someone, 1236 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 5: it definitely clouds the mind up. And you know, me 1237 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 5: and Adie had no problem in that, but we really 1238 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 5: did have a good, like to me, good relationship outside 1239 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,280 Speaker 5: of the sex, Like our banter. Like I would say, 1240 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 5: after we finished filming Love is Blind. We didn't hook up, 1241 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 5: you know, so, but we still whenever we was rying 1242 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 5: each other, we had that like magnetic dancer like that, 1243 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 5: like it could happen, you know, no, you know, I 1244 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 5: squitch and shit, but like you know, it was it 1245 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 5: was always like we still had that chemistry. But one 1246 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 5: hundred percent. Sex can definitely cloud your mind, you know. 1247 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 5: And I'm being honest with you, I haven't really thought 1248 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 5: too much in depth to see if like that clouded 1249 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 5: our mind. But I feel like me and A d 1250 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 5: this is I don't know, I just like we had 1251 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 5: a good relationship, but it could I don't know, Like 1252 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 5: it was six weeks, so you know, it could have 1253 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,280 Speaker 5: clouded my mind, but I feel like it was honestly 1254 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:48,959 Speaker 5: like that banter. 1255 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,919 Speaker 2: So after the show wrapped, after the reunion raps, y'all 1256 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 2: were no longer physical with each other because people thought 1257 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 2: that you had put her in the friend zone but 1258 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 2: was still having sex with her. 1259 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 4: That's what people thought. They thought that, like, Okay, he. 1260 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 2: Didn't want to get married, but he still wanted to 1261 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 2: like be physical with her, being around her, because you know, 1262 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 2: we saw a lot of tiktoks and y'all were still 1263 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 2: hanging out because people were so confused that, like a D, 1264 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 2: this man told you, no, why are you still around him? 1265 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 2: But you can confirm that y'all were just friends. 1266 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, me Ad was just friends. She's still on business. 1267 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 5: I tried her up, but like you know. 1268 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:25,479 Speaker 1: She gets tried. 1269 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 5: Still, No, I haven't seen her. 1270 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean you could send the texts. 1271 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so y'all are just y'all are platonic friends now. 1272 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 4: Platonic friends? But do you still love her? 1273 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 5: I love her? I still, I still. I feel like 1274 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 5: the altar scene, it was a lot. It was a 1275 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 5: lot Me and a D would have to have like 1276 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 5: a conversation because even like watching like the public backlash, 1277 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 5: I would say that definitely affected me AD's relationship where 1278 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 5: I feel like we were super strong before the show dropped, 1279 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 5: and then when the show dropped, the relationship kind of 1280 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 5: like you know, you're hearing other people opinion. She felt 1281 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 5: like I played with her and I'm just like and 1282 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 5: even I'm hearing you talk and it's like if Clay 1283 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 5: wasn't given you was all into her, and I was like, dang, 1284 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 5: like they didn't show that they just didn't show that 1285 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 5: because I felt like I was like, I feel like 1286 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 5: me and A D had a very strong dynamic. I 1287 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 5: was still trying to date her after we finished. 1288 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: Filming, and she wasn't to date you. 1289 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 5: Well, I messed up, so I think it was a possibility, 1290 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 5: but I'm this is me. I fd up. We were 1291 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 5: supposed to meet up. She wanted to meet up with 1292 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 5: like the castmates. I was kind of like, you know, 1293 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 5: I'm not really trying to be around the castmates as 1294 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 5: I just said no. I didn't want to get questioned. 1295 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 5: I was like I knew what I was gonna have 1296 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 5: to deal with, you know now, you know, so like 1297 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 5: I knew the castmates are gonna be like Clay, like 1298 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 5: what's going on? Because Ad was popular in the pause, 1299 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 5: like guys like Ad, Women like A loved and loved Ad. 1300 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 5: So like it's like I said no to you know, 1301 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 5: the prom queen, you know. Yeah yeah, so like and 1302 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 5: the back of my mind, I do a bad job 1303 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 5: of it. Sometimes I'd be like, yeah, I go, but 1304 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 5: I'd be like I really don't want to go, you 1305 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 5: know what I'm say. And it was one of those situations, 1306 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 5: and I guess AD was testing me and I didn't 1307 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 5: show up, and I think that was like the last straw, 1308 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 5: you know. 1309 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: I felt like after that she was kind of like done. 1310 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 5: She she didn't trust she didn't trusted me, she n't 1311 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 5: trust me. 1312 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 1: And you said you felt like you made a mistake. 1313 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: So why ultimately did you end up feeling like you 1314 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: made a mistake. 1315 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 5: I feel like I made a mistake because I didn't 1316 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 5: at the altar. I should have had because I saw 1317 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 5: Ad the day before, you know, and I was having 1318 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,439 Speaker 5: I was fifty to fifty that time. But I didn't 1319 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 5: feel comfortable let her know that I was having that hesitation. 1320 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 5: So I didn't know how to articulate that, Like I 1321 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 5: felt like it was too late, like I felt like 1322 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 5: we was already at the altar. And also so I 1323 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 5: was thinking about saying yes, you know. So it was 1324 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 5: just a weird thing, like how do you how do 1325 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 5: you communicate with somebody that you're gonna go to altar with? 1326 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 5: It's not like a suit, you know, a traditional relationship 1327 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 5: where you know, we prepare for this wedding six months 1328 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 5: down there. It's no like it's only been like weeks 1329 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 5: on the spot. Six weeks are six weeks on the spot. 1330 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 5: So it's like, I didn't you know I'm gonna take ownership. 1331 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't articulate that. 1332 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I'll say this in your defense, 1333 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 2: I think that the Love is Blind producers they didn't 1334 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 2: stand on business because the first. 1335 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,919 Speaker 1: Season of Love is Blind. 1336 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 4: I know you didn't watch it. You were forced to 1337 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 4: walk down the ale. 1338 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't have the option to be like, you 1339 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 2: know what, I don't want to marry them, so I 1340 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 2: don't want to waste their time. You had to walk 1341 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 2: down the aisle and you had to give them the answer. 1342 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 2: That's what was enticing about Love is Blind. 1343 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you the the. 1344 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Climax of the show was that this girl is and 1345 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 2: this is in this wedding dress, this man is in 1346 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 2: this tuxed though, And I'm letting you know in front 1347 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 2: of my family and friends if I want. 1348 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 4: To marry you or not. 1349 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 2: So I can commend you for actually walking down the 1350 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 2: island doing it, because I feel like y'all all needed 1351 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 2: to walk down the all because Jimmy, you took Chelsea 1352 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 2: to carve that goddamn ice. 1353 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Bitch, beIN carving ice all day. Okay, only at the 1354 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 1: end of the day you tell her you know what 1355 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 1: cone because at least you went through with it, So 1356 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: I feel like, why would you do that? You got 1357 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 1: the part of the point of it. 1358 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 5: They went out an amusement park where her to me, 1359 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 5: Jimmy has a real villain. Jimmy had Jimmy. 1360 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Being the real villain. Now he was the villain when 1361 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: he did Jessica, how he did whoa true? But okay, 1362 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 1: let me question y'all. 1363 01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, I think when Jimmy, when Jessica's old, 1364 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 2: Jimmy she had a child. 1365 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 3: She waited too long. For sure, she waited the child. 1366 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 2: But I also feel like when he heard that she 1367 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 2: had a child, that made the decision. 1368 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Right there. 1369 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 4: He was still trying. 1370 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 1: He was he was still being like, oh well maybe, 1371 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 1: and then he was going back and forth between. 1372 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 5: And if I could chime in, yeah, I would say 1373 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 5: Jimmy gave me no indication that he gave me. He 1374 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 5: gave me no indication that Jessica having a child deteriorate 1375 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 5: his opinion. He always from day one. And I've had 1376 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 5: conversations with Jimmy. Jimmy's my guy. Yeah, we've had conversation 1377 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 5: off camera. I don't think he has any reason to 1378 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 5: lie to me. He pretty much said that the conversation 1379 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 5: with him and Jessica had that last day, with what 1380 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 5: we've seen, was that made him say no. Because Chelsea 1381 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 5: Chelsea is cool as hell. I know, like she's getting 1382 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 5: chilled with that Megan Megan Meghan Fox thing. I was 1383 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 5: shocked watching Chelsea's scenes because I didn't know like she 1384 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 5: was giving up like that. It was actually entertaining, but 1385 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 5: because I was like, I'm like, yo, Chelsea, like she 1386 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 5: like the type of girl that hangs out with the guys. 1387 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 5: Like she cool as hell. 1388 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 2: Yes, Chelsea Chelsea in the beginning, she gives cool. Chelsea 1389 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 2: was very insecure. 1390 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Though why so much every and no tears be fall? 1391 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 5: We ain't never seen that side, So Jimmy, Jimmy was 1392 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 5: the only one kind of seeing that. I felt like 1393 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 5: Jimmy everything he told me, I seen it, And I 1394 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 5: don't think he Jimmy ever lied to me. I don't 1395 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 5: think every day try to gash up the whole Jessica 1396 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 5: and him thing. I never heard or seen Jimmy when 1397 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 5: he chose Chelsea ever, try to go back to Jessica. 1398 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 3: Do you think the letter was too much? That's what 1399 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 3: that's what it was. 1400 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 1: The letter. 1401 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 5: Talking about Sarah and. 1402 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: No, the letter that Jessica gave Jimmy. 1403 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 3: You's your husband. 1404 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: I feel like that was like, what was a bit 1405 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: much for him where he was like, yeah, no, I'm 1406 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 1: not doing. 1407 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 5: I'm not sweet. I think that was sweet. I think 1408 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,920 Speaker 5: that they had the argument already. They had the argument already, 1409 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 5: But honestly, I might have the timeline messed up because 1410 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 5: they you know, the editing, you know. From what all 1411 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 5: I know is that Jimmy told me that Jessica was 1412 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 5: in the consideration Jessica was. I think, you know, he 1413 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 5: was contemplating between Chelsea and Jessica the whole time, and 1414 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 5: he told me because I saw him right after the review, 1415 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 5: right after the proposal. So when he broke up with Jessica, 1416 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 5: he was very upset about that conversation him and Jessica had. 1417 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie even watching the show, like, I 1418 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 2: think Jessica kind of got caught up and everybody seeing 1419 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,919 Speaker 2: her too, because once the guy saw her, they were like, oh, whoa, 1420 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 2: this is what you look like. So that's why she 1421 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I can't wait for Jimmy to see me, 1422 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 2: but I ain't gonna lie. Jimmy was pushing p a 1423 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 2: little bit because he. 1424 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 5: Was like, okay, cool, Jimmy, get Jimmy, Get Jimmy, Jimmy 1425 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 5: get girls, don't get twisted. 1426 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Country. 1427 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 5: Look, no, I went I went outside with Jimmy two 1428 01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 5: weeks ago. 1429 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy, so he does seem like a country player. Yeah. 1430 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 2: So when Jimmy saw Jessica, he was like, yeah, she's fine, 1431 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 2: but okay, what else he was He did not give 1432 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 2: me the impression like he was like, oh, I seen 1433 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 2: Jessica because I'm not gonna lie. I was like, oh, 1434 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 2: I can't wait till he sees Jessica. 1435 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 5: I was thinking that too, but we all thought that. 1436 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 5: When we was going to lake House. He was like, yo, 1437 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 5: we I can't wait to see how Jimmy when he 1438 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 5: sees Jessica response, Jimmy, I gotta give, I gotta get 1439 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,919 Speaker 5: Jimmy kept that screench face, Hey did. 1440 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you this. Though you think 1441 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 2: Chelsea looks like Megan Fox, I. 1442 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 5: Think she has a resemblance of Megan Fox's too nice. 1443 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 5: I think she has like nah beyond. 1444 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 1: I swear agree. 1445 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 3: I have to agree he. 1446 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 5: Has some resemblans of Mega five. But I think you 1447 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 5: probably thinking about the body and over. 1448 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about it, like if you do it like these, 1449 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,680 Speaker 1: I think, no forehead, no chin, that's the that's a 1450 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 1: part of them. Not But what I'm saying, I'm talking 1451 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: about strictly like lit Snow's eyes. I get it. She 1452 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 1: has like a longer chin, like she has a different 1453 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 1: jaw structure, a different issue. And I think her forehead 1454 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 1: is a little bigger than Megan Fox's forehead. But like, 1455 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: if we're talking about this, cousins cousins, Yeah. 1456 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 5: I think so too. So I like when when I 1457 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 5: heard the comment, no, I would have been like I 1458 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 5: would have been thinking, like Jimmy, like I'm gonna tea 1459 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 5: Megan Fox out the other side, right, the body and everything. 1460 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 5: But uh, you know, but it wasn't that. It was 1461 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 5: to me. 1462 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the face. It does not give Megan fun. 1463 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 2: I think the only thing they had on is that 1464 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 2: how they have piercing like their eyes are. Chelsea has 1465 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 2: beautiful eyes, and Chelsea is not ugly Jesse, But does 1466 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 2: she look like Megan Fox. No, I think they just 1467 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 2: have piercing eyes. 1468 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a resembling. 1469 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 5: I think it's the way how Chelsea rolled it out, 1470 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 5: like yeah, you know, girlfriend. 1471 01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 1: She was like, what is his name? His name? Because 1472 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 1: she was like, has anybody ever told you look like 1473 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 1: a celebrity? She asked him that because she wanted her 1474 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: to add he wanted I mean, she wanted him to 1475 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 1: ask her. 1476 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to confirm with Chelsea and Jimmy had 1477 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 5: that conversation with That was hilarious because that was Chelsea. 1478 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 5: That was I love. That was me watching Love Is Blind. 1479 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 5: The joy I got was watching Jimmy and Chelsea. 1480 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 1: That was it was. It was very very entertaining, very 1481 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 1: very entertaining. 1482 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 5: I told you that Jimmy all the time, like, bro, 1483 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 5: you ate every scene. 1484 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I'll say. 1485 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 2: This, Jimmy, I think we wanted Jimmy to be the 1486 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 2: villain in the beginning, but I think the way Jimmy 1487 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 2: really tried, he really tried with Chelsea. 1488 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 4: He did, he really. 1489 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 2: Tried, because at one point I was like, come on now, Chelsea, 1490 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 2: come on now, dolls. 1491 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 1: So who were like your favorite cast members because obviously 1492 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: from literally no no, I mean like on his season. 1493 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 2: Okay, because I want to know from season one? 1494 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 5: I now watching them, Well, yeah, all you do. Okay, Now, 1495 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 5: once I finished, like't be, I'll. 1496 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 2: Make sure y'all share the content like subscribe, follow all 1497 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 2: that good stuff. And let me say this before we 1498 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 2: close out, y'all. There is one Twitter account that is 1499 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:28,480 Speaker 2: connected to poor Minds. It's p oh, you are underscore 1500 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 2: in my n d S. Y'all are tagging the wrong 1501 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 2: poor Minds page. If you see at poor minds with 1502 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 2: no underscore, that is at fake page, do not follow 1503 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 2: that page. 1504 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:37,759 Speaker 1: Okay. 1505 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 2: They block me Andrea and the poor Minds page on 1506 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:47,680 Speaker 2: both so we only have one Instagram, one Twitter, one TikTok. 1507 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 2: It is p oh, you are underscore in my. 1508 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 5: N d S. 1509 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 1: I right, and we got a hell a fake Facebook page. 1510 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,599 Speaker 3: The Facebook page our face. 1511 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 1: The crazy thing is our Facebook page actually have the 1512 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,759 Speaker 1: least mount of file report. So if you don't face, 1513 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,519 Speaker 1: the one that's hours got the least amount of file. 1514 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,600 Speaker 1: The one that's not us got like two hundred and fifty. 1515 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,200 Speaker 2: Thou make if you actually look at the content because the. 1516 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 1: Caption is like whoever it is, don't speak English, because their. 1517 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 3: Captures are like bumba claude. 1518 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 1: Should men should men pay bill? Should men pay bill? Yes? No, 1519 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:27,519 Speaker 1: check answer below block block Like, that's literally what the captions. 1520 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm like you, what that DG is? 1521 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 3: Bumba claude, bumba claude. 1522 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 1: I want to know who your favorite cast members were 1523 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 1: from obviously from your season. 1524 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:37,959 Speaker 3: Obviously you say you were cool. 1525 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,640 Speaker 6: Pool with Jimmy, So will I was cool with all 1526 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 6: the guys, like besides like Matt, because I ain't I'm 1527 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 6: I ain't talk to Matt. We know, yeah, but I'll 1528 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 6: say all the guys, Ken, Johnny, Me and Johnny is 1529 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 6: real tight. 1530 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 5: Me and Johnny talk probably three times a week. Me 1531 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 5: and Jimmy probably talk once a week. Me and Kim 1532 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 5: probably talk once a week. Me and Jeremy don't talk 1533 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 5: as often. But me and Jeremy actually link up in person. 1534 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 5: Will probably rode some skis together. 1535 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 1: Jeremy was worse than you. You were not the worst 1536 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:08,519 Speaker 1: villain on the show. 1537 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 5: I didn't think I was a villain. But that's all good. 1538 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 1: But I mean he would like to take you as 1539 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 1: a villain. Yeah, Jeremy awful. 1540 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think for me, I'm the villain because I 1541 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 5: went to the altar and I said no, and nobody 1542 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 5: else went to the altar. Like if Jeremy went to 1543 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,800 Speaker 5: the altar. If Jimmy went to the altar, like I 1544 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 5: probably would have been protected a little bit more. Now 1545 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 5: I think only only a little bit, because the black 1546 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 5: community was still jumped on me. 1547 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 2: True, but I think people basis up the show. In 1548 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 2: the first season, all the couples had to go to 1549 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 2: the altar and nobody worse than Shake. Shak was on 1550 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 2: like season four two, Shake was season two. 1551 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: Shake was awful. 1552 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 5: But did Shake have like the best reunion? Like the 1553 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 5: whole reunion went against Shake and he he held. 1554 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,679 Speaker 2: His own asshole. He was like standing ten toes down 1555 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 2: and he didn't give a fuck. 1556 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was good. 1557 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,639 Speaker 2: County shows Now, like he gets invited to reality shows 1558 01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,000 Speaker 2: to be the villain, like he was on a reality show. 1559 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 4: Was like a morosa Johnny Bananas. 1560 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: He does that. 1561 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Like they had a show on VH one and 1562 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 2: it's like all the villains and. 1563 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 1: He was on there. Shake was awful. I think that. 1564 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 2: I think for you, Clay, I'm gonna give you my 1565 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 2: honest review as a. 1566 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,280 Speaker 1: A consumer of I think with you. 1567 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 2: I think you're not perfect, You're a flawed human, but 1568 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,880 Speaker 2: we all are. Because guess what if Drea was on camera, 1569 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 2: if I was on camera anybody else, our flaws are 1570 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 2: gonna show. 1571 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 4: And I think it just. 1572 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,559 Speaker 2: Wasn't as forgiving because obviously it's edited. But I think 1573 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,799 Speaker 2: that you were a man dating and going through feelings 1574 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 2: and emotions and you had to do it on national 1575 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 2: TV and a lot of people couldn't do what you did. 1576 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, facts, And I don't think. 1577 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 2: Your intentions were to ever hurt anybody's feelings. 1578 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:51,719 Speaker 4: And that's what I can say. 1579 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,519 Speaker 2: I think truly, like when I saw Shake, Shake was 1580 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 2: in the pods asking girls could he put them on 1581 01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 2: their shoulders? 1582 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Could he hold you up? Because he's trying to low 1583 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:01,639 Speaker 1: key ask are you. 1584 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 4: Fat or not? 1585 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That type ship. 1586 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 2: So when I say that, it's like I think that 1587 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 2: when you went in the pods, you had genuine intentions. 1588 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,559 Speaker 1: And let me say these so advocating for you a 1589 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: little bit. I don't think nothing is wrong with asking 1590 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 1: what somebody look like. 1591 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,759 Speaker 2: That's that it is though with that show, because I love. 1592 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:28,680 Speaker 1: Is supposed to be blind. I get what yourself, I 1593 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 1: get what you're saying. Licks. However, it's like I feel 1594 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 1: like if I ask you, though, you will give me 1595 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 1: a little hint like, okay, so if somebody, so, if 1596 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 1: you went on a show and somebody was like, okay, 1597 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 1: like I really like you, but I'm not gonna lie, 1598 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 1: Like physical attraction is really important, can you kind of 1599 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 1: like give me a little hint like what, I'm thick 1600 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 1: as fuck, I'm bad as fuck to if she said at, 1601 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 1: you will be like. 1602 01:12:55,640 --> 01:13:03,680 Speaker 5: I sy that she let me know, let me but 1603 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 5: they didn't. 1604 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 3: That part that fucked up. 1605 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:09,559 Speaker 1: Because I would. 1606 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 5: I don't want to say that conversation was a conversational prompt, 1607 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 5: but what's your biggest fear? So I was just saying, 1608 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 5: my biggest fear is that fall love with you, and 1609 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 5: I'm not trying. Yeah, I thought that was honest, you know. 1610 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean honest, but I'm not gonna lie 1611 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:24,519 Speaker 4: for that. 1612 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 5: They put that on the Netflix trailer they did. 1613 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,479 Speaker 1: I feel like because I said, oh this, nigga, why 1614 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,640 Speaker 1: are you even here? Physical attraction is important, it is, 1615 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 1: But if your physical traction is that important to you, 1616 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 1: you don't need to go on this show. But he 1617 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,080 Speaker 1: said he didn't know, right, he didn't know that I 1618 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 1: was But That's what I'm saying. I could never go 1619 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 1: on What Love at first sight. 1620 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,719 Speaker 5: When you were you married and you see the person 1621 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 5: the first time, I'm not doing it. Mom wanted me 1622 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,600 Speaker 5: to actually go in that show. She advocated me to 1623 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 5: go and loves Blinde but she I mean to go 1624 01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 5: and Love's Blue, but she thought I was married at 1625 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,639 Speaker 5: first sight and she thought that it was like therapist. 1626 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 1: Now I'm like, worse, I'm not live married. 1627 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 2: I have to get attracted to you. I don't care 1628 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 2: if the world finds you ugly. I need to find 1629 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,320 Speaker 2: you attracted. I've never cared if this person can think 1630 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,280 Speaker 2: you ugly that I don't give. 1631 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 1: I liked fine to me, like I got that physical 1632 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 1: attraction to him, like I don't know, I want to 1633 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:20,720 Speaker 1: jump all over him. 1634 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 3: I need to feel that way. 1635 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,240 Speaker 4: Okay, So before we move on, I do want to 1636 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:23,800 Speaker 4: ask you this. 1637 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 2: If once you get ready and you feel like, okay, 1638 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 2: I'm ready to set down, I'm ready to be married, 1639 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 2: would you spend the block with ad and marry her? 1640 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,920 Speaker 5: I would say, me and A D probably haven't have 1641 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 5: a conversation. I feel like it was a lot of 1642 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 5: shots was thrown not from us, but like from other 1643 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,719 Speaker 5: people that I feel like affected our relationship because honestly, 1644 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 5: we were super cool for going to the show. So 1645 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 5: I do on really feel comfortable answering that because me 1646 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,799 Speaker 5: and her haven't talked since the reunion. 1647 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,799 Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, so and how long was it reunion? 1648 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:04,280 Speaker 5: Maybe four weeks ago? Oh but we were talking consistently 1649 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:08,800 Speaker 5: right like you know, so uh you know, I would say, 1650 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,559 Speaker 5: I would have to yeah she did she ate you know? 1651 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 1: Yeah you funny Clay. But I know your DMS is 1652 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 1: going up now, so after the show, I know the 1653 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 1: girls be up in there. 1654 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so how is your dating life now? 1655 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 5: Like? 1656 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 4: Are you single? 1657 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:23,639 Speaker 1: You're dating? 1658 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:24,479 Speaker 4: What's going on with you? 1659 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 5: I'm just going therapy chilling? 1660 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:27,559 Speaker 4: So you're not dating right? 1661 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 5: Not dating? 1662 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,080 Speaker 3: You be responding to the DMS. 1663 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 5: I'll be like saying thank you, you know what I'm saying. 1664 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,439 Speaker 5: People would be like, uh, be like what's up now? 1665 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 5: I just like it and I say praying hands nothing. 1666 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 1: You're just not interested in dating right now. 1667 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,719 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm like too busy to like date. 1668 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,640 Speaker 5: Like I feel like someone is gonna have to be 1669 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,839 Speaker 5: like I don't know, like like if you're just saying like, Oklay, 1670 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 5: I loved you on the show, like that's not gonna 1671 01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 5: be like yo, let me try to hogher aight, this girl, 1672 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 5: it's like, YO, appreciate you, I feel like, and some 1673 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,880 Speaker 5: women be like, Yo, you're so good looking, You're the 1674 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 5: best looking. 1675 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, thank you, Like I like you ain't you 1676 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 1: ain't trying to hear that sheet. 1677 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 5: Nah, I feel like I'm I don't know, I kind 1678 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 5: of I need to see how you're gonna change my life? 1679 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 5: What's up? Okay, talk that game. 1680 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:15,799 Speaker 1: I'm deeper. 1681 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,320 Speaker 5: I'm looking for something deeper and also too, like I'm 1682 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,080 Speaker 5: going to therapy. I know that I want to be 1683 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,920 Speaker 5: a husband, so like I don't want to just jump 1684 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,040 Speaker 5: out from the show and try to like use the 1685 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,320 Speaker 5: the momentum that I got to try to you know, 1686 01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 5: get women and have sexual women, you know what I'm saying, 1687 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,479 Speaker 5: Like I'm trying to actually, like you know, build some 1688 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,600 Speaker 5: type of mental Ford two where like although the temptations 1689 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 5: hot right now where I could kind of like all right, cool, 1690 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 5: Like I'm not about to fold because right now it's 1691 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 5: the highest, like my DMS is going crazy. But I 1692 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,519 Speaker 5: feel like I've been doing a real good job of 1693 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,559 Speaker 5: like not responding and yeah and. 1694 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 1: Doing the right thing. So I do want to ask 1695 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:53,799 Speaker 1: you a question. 1696 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 2: Though, so a lot of times when people go on 1697 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,639 Speaker 2: reality shows, especially Love is Blond, they say they hate 1698 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,680 Speaker 2: the editor said, hey thoo, they made them look. You 1699 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:06,679 Speaker 2: know the producers. I know, specifically Lauren from season one, 1700 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,240 Speaker 2: She's done a lot of like kind of speaking out 1701 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 2: just about the treatment of specifically the black people on 1702 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,160 Speaker 2: the cast, how they edit things, how they make things look. So, 1703 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,280 Speaker 2: how do you feel moving forward with your relationship with 1704 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,200 Speaker 2: Netflix and the Love is Blind show? Like would you 1705 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,519 Speaker 2: do more reunions or do collaborations with them? Or you 1706 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 2: kind of feel like, you know what, I don't like 1707 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 2: how y'all made me look, And I'm not fooling with it. 1708 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 5: I think that that's my sentiment. But I'm an open 1709 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 5: communication guy also too, Like with my edit, I said 1710 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,960 Speaker 5: all the things that I said, so like I said, like, 1711 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,519 Speaker 5: I'm a guy that holds myself accountable. I think Love 1712 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,720 Speaker 5: is Blind was a great experience for me, even with 1713 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 5: the backlash, because it showed me the way that I date, 1714 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,679 Speaker 5: in the toxic things that I do. So it's gonna 1715 01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 5: make me a better partner. So I appreciate even though 1716 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 5: Love is Blind focused on a lot of my negative stuff, 1717 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 5: I probably didn't need to get my ego boosted anymore. 1718 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 5: So I don't have a bad relationship with Netflix. I 1719 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,960 Speaker 5: like Chris Chris Cohen, who's the CEO. He called me 1720 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 5: and he let me know that he was happy that 1721 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 5: that I went through the process and I made my 1722 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,559 Speaker 5: decision at the alter. So I don't have no bad 1723 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 5: blow with them. Although I didn't like the fact that 1724 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,760 Speaker 5: they didn't show some of my in depth conversations with 1725 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,640 Speaker 5: a D I do appreciate the fact that I was 1726 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,320 Speaker 5: able to be a fly on the wall with my 1727 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 5: relationships and be able to see, like, Okay, there's things 1728 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 5: I need to do better. I'm not tripping on the edit. 1729 01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,759 Speaker 4: Like that, would you do another reality show? 1730 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,640 Speaker 5: They kind of beat me up a little bit, but 1731 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,640 Speaker 5: you know it depends. I mean, I'm a capitalist, so 1732 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 5: the money talking. 1733 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, I know that's right. I know that's the 1734 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 1: right period. So I did want to ask you real 1735 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,799 Speaker 1: quick too before we move on to the next digment. 1736 01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 1: I know that you're a really big mental health advocate, 1737 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 1: and so I wanted you to kind of touch on 1738 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,320 Speaker 1: that a little bit and how like you maybe found 1739 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,720 Speaker 1: your therapist then got into getting therapy because maybe you 1740 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: can help like some of the black men out there 1741 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,120 Speaker 1: who are a little his team. We're going to therapy 1742 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,040 Speaker 1: because I know that's a big thing in our community, 1743 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,400 Speaker 1: like so many people. And that's me and a with me, 1744 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,680 Speaker 1: Like people just be feeling like, oh, I don't need 1745 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,240 Speaker 1: to go to therapy and this and is wrong with me. 1746 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,280 Speaker 3: So I would like for you to touch on that 1747 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 3: a little bit too. 1748 01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was on the same mindset, like you know, therapy, 1749 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,040 Speaker 5: I don't really need it. Like, once I really want 1750 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 5: to be with somebody, it's going to just happen and 1751 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,600 Speaker 5: work out. And like I said, when I kind of 1752 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,760 Speaker 5: went through this experiment, and I'm like, man, I got 1753 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 5: some roadblocks because I love this girl, but like I 1754 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 5: can't move past certain things. So I just think for 1755 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,679 Speaker 5: black men, you know, as men, we have to have 1756 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,800 Speaker 5: this tough external and you know, always be tough, and 1757 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 5: sometimes even being emotional, you kind of get ridiculed. It's 1758 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,439 Speaker 5: good to have a therapist because you have somebody that's 1759 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 5: unbiasing in life, that can give you some proper perspective 1760 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,680 Speaker 5: where you could cry and not feel judged, where you 1761 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 5: could you know, let your emotion out and not feel judged. 1762 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 5: And I feel like as men, we always try to 1763 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 5: be the toughest guy. And I would say, even when 1764 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 5: I cried on the show, that was such a good 1765 01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,479 Speaker 5: release from me because I ain't cried before that for 1766 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 5: three years. So that's why I kept on crying because 1767 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 5: it was so much stuff built built into me. And 1768 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,559 Speaker 5: I feel like for men, we don't tap into that 1769 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,519 Speaker 5: emotion enough. Whenever we do feel sad, like let's say 1770 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 5: a deal doesn't happen, or we do get our heartbroken, 1771 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 5: we kind of just like, manf it, We're gonna go 1772 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,720 Speaker 5: have sex with another girl or do something else. And 1773 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,800 Speaker 5: like you, that's that pain is still there, So like 1774 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 5: we need to be able to speak that speak on 1775 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,840 Speaker 5: that pain, let it go, you know, because carrying that 1776 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 5: ain't gonna do you no good. So that's why a 1777 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,920 Speaker 5: therapist is really good because it's somebody that is not 1778 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,800 Speaker 5: in your life that's going to judge you. It's a 1779 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 5: unbiased perspective and you could just be yourself. Nobody's judging you. 1780 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,759 Speaker 5: Anything you got going on, you can let that therapist 1781 01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,040 Speaker 5: know and it's a safe space for you. So to me, 1782 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,479 Speaker 5: when I walk out my therapy sessions, I feel like 1783 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,080 Speaker 5: a better man. I feel way more like I could, 1784 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 5: I could come on to talk to y'all and be 1785 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,000 Speaker 5: vulnerable and not trip on how the world gonna see 1786 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,599 Speaker 5: me because it's my life, Like I don't really care 1787 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,600 Speaker 5: what other people really thinking about me. Like at the 1788 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:12,840 Speaker 5: end of day, I'm trying to do what's best for 1789 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 5: me and my woman. My wife is gonna be able 1790 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,640 Speaker 5: to that's my wife that I'm gonna be able to 1791 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 5: identify that she's gonna be identify me, and like what 1792 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 5: I got going on. If you there's gonna be a 1793 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,799 Speaker 5: lot of people who are not gonna like what I say, 1794 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:25,519 Speaker 5: but there's gonna be one person that likes it. And 1795 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 5: I'm only marrying one person, right, I don't. 1796 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,840 Speaker 1: That's what people be feeling to realize you only got 1797 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,720 Speaker 1: to impress that one person person. So you look at 1798 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:35,639 Speaker 1: you with the growth. 1799 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 3: So how did you find your therapies? 1800 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,240 Speaker 5: So actually, so I had a male therapist at first, 1801 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,720 Speaker 5: and he was like kind of want I'm therapist that 1802 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 5: like through Bible verses at you, and that just wasn't 1803 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 5: working with me. I'm like, you can't, like you can't 1804 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 5: just throw John three verse five. Yeah, that's kind of energy. 1805 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 5: Was love the world and you know it's funny too. 1806 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 5: At the wedding they did, they did Proverbs three, verse five. 1807 01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,519 Speaker 5: That's the verses. I told ad it was manipulating a 1808 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 5: little bit because I'm like, that ain't even a wedding verse. 1809 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:14,040 Speaker 5: That's the wedding that versus still right, they convinced me 1810 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 5: to not get But they funny though. But but I 1811 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,040 Speaker 5: actually went through another therapist, but I only did one 1812 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 5: session with her. My sister did a session with the 1813 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 5: therapist that I have now. Shout out to Miss Tony. 1814 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,720 Speaker 5: She's been real good. She gives me homework. So every 1815 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 5: time after a session, I see her once a week. 1816 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 5: She asked me do things. She asked me look at 1817 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,680 Speaker 5: YouTube videos. She wants me to start practicing meditation. I 1818 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,280 Speaker 5: will say that I'm a little off a normal meditation, 1819 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 5: just off of my schedule. Now, I no meditation works, 1820 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 5: but it's just hard for me to make the time 1821 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 5: for it. But she sends me meditation. She sends me things. 1822 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,479 Speaker 5: And one of the things that she's like very toned 1823 01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,640 Speaker 5: in on is like, okay, Clay, like, let's identify your childhood, 1824 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,760 Speaker 5: Let's identify what made you happy. Let's identify different things. 1825 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 5: Because I would say that the things that I've been 1826 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:03,080 Speaker 5: chasing in my life, that's stuff that like doesn't really 1827 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 5: make me happy. But it's like kind of like what 1828 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,640 Speaker 5: I told you, like I adopted this persona to be 1829 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,720 Speaker 5: validated by other people, and that is kind of like 1830 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 5: what's been feeling me. So I had to go back 1831 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,920 Speaker 5: into my kid essence, like, all right, what makes me happy? 1832 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,120 Speaker 5: Being on my friends, being on my family, being around 1833 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:21,000 Speaker 5: love money? Although I do love money, I'm a capitalist 1834 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,120 Speaker 5: that gets stressful. And you and you sometimes you chasing 1835 01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,719 Speaker 5: that money so much you're not even happy. And I realize, 1836 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 5: like me having a genuine conversation, being with friends, being 1837 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,759 Speaker 5: with family, that's my happiness. So getting back to that essence, 1838 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,000 Speaker 5: you know, Okay. 1839 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,680 Speaker 1: I think that's very interesting. So what did you have 1840 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,120 Speaker 1: a woman therapies? Like I feel like most of the 1841 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 1: time when I think about me and they always like 1842 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,000 Speaker 1: have male therapies and like women a lot of the 1843 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,720 Speaker 1: time have women therapies. Yeah, I feel like it be 1844 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,000 Speaker 1: makes for I guess how I got friends that i'd 1845 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,200 Speaker 1: be talking to. It'd be a mixture, but just a 1846 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,800 Speaker 1: piggyback off of what you said as far as like 1847 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:55,760 Speaker 1: the homework that she gives you. 1848 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,839 Speaker 2: Because I love my therapy. She always gives me homework. 1849 01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,640 Speaker 2: But I will say the main thing I took from her. 1850 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 2: I'll tell this all the time. Journaling. Yeah, because the 1851 01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 2: reason journaling I always talk about how important it is 1852 01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,760 Speaker 2: is because with journaling, like you said, we have to 1853 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:10,559 Speaker 2: look back on our childhood and look at the things 1854 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,120 Speaker 2: that affected us. That means we have to look back 1855 01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:17,519 Speaker 2: on our past. I can look back two years ago 1856 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 2: what I was feeling in this moment right now because 1857 01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:20,960 Speaker 2: I journaled it and I wrote it down, and I 1858 01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,800 Speaker 2: can look at my growth. So every day, even if 1859 01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,240 Speaker 2: nothing happened that day, I sit down and I write 1860 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 2: how I felt this day, what I'm going through this day. 1861 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,679 Speaker 2: So journaling has literally changed my life when it comes 1862 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,800 Speaker 2: to growth, because sometimes you don't get to look back 1863 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,920 Speaker 2: and really see the growth that you've made. But I 1864 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,200 Speaker 2: can guarantee you if you wrote down how you feel 1865 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,640 Speaker 2: a year ago and you read that today, you'll be like, wow, 1866 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,479 Speaker 2: that's a fact. Even three months ago, I'll be looking 1867 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 2: at my journal interest I'll be like, oh my goodness, 1868 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:49,960 Speaker 2: this is crazy. 1869 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 5: Wait give me so give me perspective, cause journaling, to 1870 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,479 Speaker 5: me is tough because like I just it's like the 1871 01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 5: same thing with meditation, Like. 1872 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,800 Speaker 1: It's a habit for me. So I'll say this. 1873 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,000 Speaker 2: So now sometimes when I journal, I didn't do nothing 1874 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,679 Speaker 2: that day but stay in the house. So I'd be like, Okay, 1875 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,479 Speaker 2: so today I stay in the house. I cleaned up 1876 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:12,160 Speaker 2: a little bit, I had a conversation with this person 1877 01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 2: and we would talk about X, y Z. So a 1878 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,240 Speaker 2: year from now, I can look back on that and like, Damn, 1879 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:18,760 Speaker 2: I was talking to this person about this. 1880 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:19,920 Speaker 1: That's not even shit. 1881 01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,160 Speaker 2: I care about Why am I even engaging in a 1882 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 2: conversation like that? 1883 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,400 Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. 1884 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,600 Speaker 2: So it can be like the smallest thing that you 1885 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,200 Speaker 2: could be, like why was I engaging in that? You 1886 01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,960 Speaker 2: know what was I doing? And I'm like, oh, cause, 1887 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 2: like now I'm in a gym, real tough. So I'll 1888 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,200 Speaker 2: always journal and I talk about my gym things. So 1889 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,920 Speaker 2: even when I look back on my journals entries from 1890 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:41,360 Speaker 2: a year ago, I'm like, Damn, I wasn't in the 1891 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,320 Speaker 2: gym at all, And I think about how I feel 1892 01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,559 Speaker 2: so much better now because I'm looking at my journal 1893 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,479 Speaker 2: entry from four months ago and I'm like, man, I 1894 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,720 Speaker 2: left the gym I feel so good today. I'm like, man, 1895 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,160 Speaker 2: look how happy the gym makes you. So it just 1896 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,120 Speaker 2: be like little stuff so it don't got to be alone. 1897 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 2: Sometimes I literally write that, Hey, I don't feel like 1898 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,519 Speaker 2: writing in my journal today, but I do it because 1899 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 2: I know I need to. I had a slow day today. 1900 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,960 Speaker 2: This is how I'm feeling. I'll write something better tomorrow. 1901 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta do a better job at that because 1902 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,800 Speaker 5: I feel like I did it at the start of 1903 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,760 Speaker 5: the year last year, like like like when I was 1904 01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,200 Speaker 5: doing Love as Black Spares, I was journaling. Yeah, so 1905 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 5: one day I'm gonna read what I was saying, cause 1906 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 5: that's and I think. 1907 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes if writing isn't for you, maybe you can record it. 1908 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:22,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. 1909 01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,760 Speaker 2: I phone they have an app now, so if you 1910 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 2: just like be on your phone, they have a journaling 1911 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,880 Speaker 2: app now. So I think there's a lot of different 1912 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:29,800 Speaker 2: ways you can journal. 1913 01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good, good poa sart in corporating. 1914 01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 4: That, Yeah, yeah for sure. 1915 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,120 Speaker 1: This girl that I follow on social media, we've been 1916 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:37,960 Speaker 1: following each other for a long ast time, and we 1917 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,479 Speaker 1: got each other in our close friends. She had posted 1918 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,080 Speaker 1: in her close friends the other day she was like, 1919 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't really know Journally, it don't really work for 1920 01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,679 Speaker 1: me because I'm just more of an on site person. 1921 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 1: What you mean, like, I don't feel like I need 1922 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:50,920 Speaker 1: to write this, she'd in my journal, I'm gonna just 1923 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 1: let you know you got me fucked up, Like I'm 1924 01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,160 Speaker 1: gonna just talk to you and let you know, like 1925 01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:56,840 Speaker 1: this is how I feel. 1926 01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with this or whatever the situation. 1927 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 2: Maybe when I think about journal, I don't think it's 1928 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 2: about what a person has done to you. I think 1929 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,439 Speaker 2: it's more like the internal thing. 1930 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,200 Speaker 1: Right, But I guess she was just saying she feels 1931 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,200 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna just let it out regardless, like I'm 1932 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 1: gonna just let whoever know how I feel. 1933 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,240 Speaker 2: But what if you're dealing with something internally that has 1934 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 2: nothing to do with anybody else, who you gonna let know? 1935 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean, yeah, but it's 1936 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 1: like you as a person, you know how you feel, right. 1937 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,959 Speaker 4: But you really don't though, because there's. 1938 01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,360 Speaker 1: Things tell me what it's internal. If it's me feeling 1939 01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,040 Speaker 1: this way, even if I'm writing it in a journal, 1940 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm not letting nobody know. 1941 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:38,479 Speaker 3: I'm just writing it out right. 1942 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,200 Speaker 2: But guess what two years ago today, what were you 1943 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,080 Speaker 2: doing and how did you feel. It'd be sometimes that 1944 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,040 Speaker 2: I look at old Poor Mind's episodes, I'll be like, 1945 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 2: I said. 1946 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 1: That, right, I mean, I agree. I think that I 1947 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 1: do journal more of these days. But I think it's cool. 1948 01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 1: But sometimes I think I kind of fall off with 1949 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:58,120 Speaker 1: it too, because I don't necessarily think that I'm a 1950 01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,799 Speaker 1: person who looks back on things. 1951 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that. 1952 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,200 Speaker 1: Also just depends on the type of person you are, 1953 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:05,920 Speaker 1: because if you're a person who you like to look 1954 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,599 Speaker 1: back on things to be in documentary growth and be like, 1955 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 1: oh well I was going through this and now I'm 1956 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,519 Speaker 1: not like that no more, and I don't think this 1957 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,880 Speaker 1: way anymore, versus like if you're a person that you 1958 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,600 Speaker 1: just kind of go through life and move on, move on. 1959 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,400 Speaker 2: I always say this when I talk to about because 1960 01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 2: my fellow get into journaling. Yes, I look at like 1961 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,840 Speaker 2: losing weight. When you lost weight and you look in 1962 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 2: the mirror, you be like, oh my god, I don't 1963 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,559 Speaker 2: see no difference because you see yourself every day. 1964 01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,200 Speaker 4: But if you take a picture. 1965 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,200 Speaker 2: From day one today ninety, you be like, oh day ninety, 1966 01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:42,680 Speaker 2: I look like, oh my god, I look like this 1967 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:43,200 Speaker 2: day one. 1968 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,080 Speaker 1: That's how journaling is for me. Everybody's different. 1969 01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,519 Speaker 2: Some people they don't want to see that day one picture. 1970 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:49,800 Speaker 2: That's not gonna help them. 1971 01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 5: Me. 1972 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 1: I need to look at that day one picture and see. 1973 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,479 Speaker 1: I will say this even when I do journal, like 1974 01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,880 Speaker 1: even looking back to like me journaling at the end 1975 01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,280 Speaker 1: of last year, I haven't read. 1976 01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 4: This she Yeah, see I when I'm feeling. 1977 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,639 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, it's April and I have not read that, yeah, 1978 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 1: this whole year, you know what I mean. It's like 1979 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,320 Speaker 1: I never really look back on stuff, Like even with 1980 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,080 Speaker 1: text messages. I have my text messages to wear after 1981 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:14,920 Speaker 1: a year day de lead because these are nothing that 1982 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,320 Speaker 1: I want to like look back on. 1983 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely I have, like maybe every like six months, 1984 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,840 Speaker 2: I sit down and I'll read my journals, especially if 1985 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,560 Speaker 2: it's like it's a day I'm feeling something, I'm like, 1986 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:28,439 Speaker 2: what's going on today. 1987 01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,920 Speaker 1: I'll look back and I'm like, oh, okay, okay, You're on. 1988 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:31,519 Speaker 5: The right track. 1989 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 2: So I just think it just depends with what you're 1990 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,400 Speaker 2: going through. I feel like, if you've never tried it, 1991 01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:37,400 Speaker 2: maybe try it. 1992 01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like you should. 1993 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,200 Speaker 1: If you try it, maybe you'll like it. 1994 01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 2: It worked for some people, it's done wonders for me 1995 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 2: because Chelle, I'll be a mess. 1996 01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,160 Speaker 5: So what I'll be doing now, I'll just be like 1997 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,040 Speaker 5: when I be having my therapy sessions, I just have 1998 01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 5: my notes tap up. Yeah, I kind of like write 1999 01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,280 Speaker 5: notes down. But you know I did journal before. I 2000 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 5: just felt like that to me to be consistent, because 2001 01:29:58,080 --> 01:29:59,599 Speaker 5: I'll just be like, you know, some days it just. 2002 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,680 Speaker 4: Don't be s every day, Like, yeah, I write in 2003 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:03,639 Speaker 4: my ship every day. 2004 01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:05,280 Speaker 5: That's that's a habit. 2005 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. 2006 01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,760 Speaker 5: When I was doing the show, I was journaling because 2007 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,280 Speaker 5: we ain't have no TV. We had nothing. That's that's all. 2008 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 5: So I'll read those because that was entertaining. I'm one 2009 01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:17,479 Speaker 5: day I'm gona read that ship on YouTube. 2010 01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said. 2011 01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:20,519 Speaker 4: Also, if you don't want to write, because I think 2012 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:21,320 Speaker 4: sometimes people. 2013 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,800 Speaker 5: Just don't want to, of course I like that. That's 2014 01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:26,639 Speaker 5: a good I think I'm gonna do that, like probably 2015 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:28,760 Speaker 5: do like some voice Orcord like hey, because I do 2016 01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,640 Speaker 5: my walks in the morning, like I like kiss my 2017 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,760 Speaker 5: skin and just going to walk talk talk with God, 2018 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,720 Speaker 5: and I can like probably like record myself and. 2019 01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that movie Avatar? I remember how they would. 2020 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,720 Speaker 2: They made them document everything every day and they was 2021 01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,640 Speaker 2: like recording. So I feel like, just record something and 2022 01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,360 Speaker 2: even if you don't do it every day, you can 2023 01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:51,200 Speaker 2: do it every week. Give a summary of your Yeah, 2024 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,679 Speaker 2: I don't have to do it every day, just something, 2025 01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:55,360 Speaker 2: write something down. 2026 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:55,920 Speaker 3: I agree. 2027 01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You'll know. Okay, So now 2028 01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:01,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna move on. 2029 01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 2: We in our favorite segment of the week, your pour 2030 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:06,799 Speaker 2: your Heart Out segment. 2031 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,360 Speaker 1: Did they give us the poor your heart? Yes? 2032 01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:10,599 Speaker 3: Do we have to pour your heart out? 2033 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:11,040 Speaker 1: Cards? 2034 01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:32,240 Speaker 2: You guys, make sure you email us at ask Poor 2035 01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,000 Speaker 2: Minds at gmail dot com if you want your questions 2036 01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,000 Speaker 2: answered on the show. If you are a Patreon member, 2037 01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:39,519 Speaker 2: make sure you put that in the subject line and 2038 01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,240 Speaker 2: you get to skip the line. 2039 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:42,519 Speaker 3: Do you give good advice? 2040 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,200 Speaker 5: Clay, I don't know. 2041 01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:48,200 Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know. I ain't the best advice giver. 2042 01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,760 Speaker 5: It depends who a lord. 2043 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna get into question this. 2044 01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:54,760 Speaker 5: Damn. 2045 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,080 Speaker 1: It's a long asked question. Actually, well, if say question 2046 01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:59,799 Speaker 1: number one with my say question number. 2047 01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,760 Speaker 4: Two, mind said question number one? I guess it don't matter. 2048 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 1: You want to go first or you. 2049 01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 3: Know, man, is yours long not short? Okay, go you 2050 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:06,400 Speaker 3: go first. 2051 01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, lex Andrea, sit back because this is a 2052 01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,080 Speaker 2: good one. I've been talking to this guy who's twenty 2053 01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,639 Speaker 2: six and I'm a thirty one year old female. We 2054 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,639 Speaker 2: started talking after he's slid in the DMS. But here's 2055 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:22,440 Speaker 2: the bad part. Our moms are best friends. But AnyWho, 2056 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,880 Speaker 2: we've been fucking and talking and I'm catching feelings fast. 2057 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,519 Speaker 2: But also he has a baby on the way. I 2058 01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,800 Speaker 2: don't know what to do. I need your help. Should 2059 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,880 Speaker 2: I just let it continue and play out or leave 2060 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,800 Speaker 2: him alone? Side note, he says him and the baby 2061 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,439 Speaker 2: mama aren't getting back together. But I'm old enough to 2062 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:42,120 Speaker 2: know that shit can change. But please help me. Being 2063 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:48,000 Speaker 2: thirty one and being aside, we know better. 2064 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:49,439 Speaker 1: Girl. 2065 01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,200 Speaker 4: I'm never dealing with a man who got a baby 2066 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:52,599 Speaker 4: on the way. 2067 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, just off of the way, off top, because a 2068 01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,280 Speaker 2: newborn is a lot of work. If you're a man 2069 01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:00,920 Speaker 2: or a woman and you have a newborn and you 2070 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,200 Speaker 2: have time to date, you're not being a good parent. 2071 01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,720 Speaker 2: That's just my honest opinion, because I've been there with 2072 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 2: a newborn. I was there with my sister and her baby. 2073 01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:16,680 Speaker 2: Daddy whenever they had my oldest nephew, and it's a lot, 2074 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,280 Speaker 2: and they were both there present and I will still 2075 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:23,280 Speaker 2: being there. It takes a village, for real, A good 2076 01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,880 Speaker 2: father to a newborn does not have time to date. 2077 01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:31,000 Speaker 5: What about if the woman is keeping the newborn away 2078 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:34,080 Speaker 5: from the father and he wants to be president in life? 2079 01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,880 Speaker 2: A woman, a real woman, that that's not You're not 2080 01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:39,920 Speaker 2: keeping child away from the father. 2081 01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:40,840 Speaker 1: She needs the help. 2082 01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,240 Speaker 5: I always gonna say that because I have a homeboy 2083 01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:44,240 Speaker 5: who just went through that. 2084 01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:45,719 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying it doesn't. 2085 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:47,160 Speaker 3: It definitely happens. 2086 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,280 Speaker 4: I'm not saying it doesn't happen. 2087 01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:53,640 Speaker 2: But that's a very slight that's. 2088 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:53,559 Speaker 1: A very like. 2089 01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,760 Speaker 2: He has an interesting case because I'm telling you of 2090 01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,520 Speaker 2: the time, a woman with a newborn. 2091 01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,200 Speaker 4: She wants you to be there, she wants you to. 2092 01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:05,280 Speaker 2: He he needs some That's a part of depression, is real, Okay? 2093 01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean a red flag for for sure is a 2094 01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,040 Speaker 1: nigga having a baby on the way trying to date me. 2095 01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:11,920 Speaker 3: What you mean you got a baby on. 2096 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,240 Speaker 2: The way and he's twenty six, he younger than you? 2097 01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:18,000 Speaker 2: You thirty one? That girl, move on and mama's best 2098 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,800 Speaker 2: friends y'all supposed to be cousins. 2099 01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,000 Speaker 4: I agree, y'all kissing cuzin. 2100 01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,160 Speaker 5: That's when the toxic should get in there. She having 2101 01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:26,360 Speaker 5: a good sex, that big. 2102 01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:27,080 Speaker 4: Is not that good girl. 2103 01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:28,960 Speaker 3: We just talked about their play. 2104 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,040 Speaker 1: It's the sex, the sad sex, bad situation, that's what's 2105 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,640 Speaker 1: making her right there. Little yeah, but girl, let that 2106 01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,880 Speaker 1: she go. Yeah, let that go. We can all agree. 2107 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,880 Speaker 5: Let this she go. So he doing well in life, 2108 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:40,800 Speaker 5: but she. 2109 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,760 Speaker 2: Didn't say that. She just said he was twenty somethings. Yeah, yeah, 2110 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,880 Speaker 2: she just said he was twenty six. But I mean, 2111 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:47,920 Speaker 2: given the way the economy is, no, I'm not going 2112 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,360 Speaker 2: to assume, but nine times out of ten, twenty six 2113 01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,080 Speaker 2: year old, they just he's still trying to figure life out. 2114 01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,960 Speaker 5: A nigg fucking for red. 2115 01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it's going on. I'll give it up for 2116 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 2: a little bit of rent. Rent h now, y'all lucky 2117 01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:07,519 Speaker 2: A young I wouldn't know what I would be doing 2118 01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:08,600 Speaker 2: right now because. 2119 01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,840 Speaker 1: With these rent prices now, rent is crazy right now? 2120 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,479 Speaker 2: Oh lord, I just thank God every day my rents 2121 01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:15,080 Speaker 2: so high. 2122 01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:20,559 Speaker 1: Go ahead, I don't pay, you know, it's least high. Question. 2123 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,840 Speaker 1: Now I'm preparing myself it's alone. It's long and long, 2124 01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:31,679 Speaker 1: all right, remaining anonymous. Hey lex Andrea, I love y'all 2125 01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,960 Speaker 1: so much. Let me get right into this. I'm sorry 2126 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,240 Speaker 1: it's long with just listen. 2127 01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:36,719 Speaker 3: Okay. 2128 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,840 Speaker 1: So I've been with my cheating, lying ass baby daddy 2129 01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,840 Speaker 1: for fourteen years, since I was fifteen years old. Okay, 2130 01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,200 Speaker 1: so about six years we took a break, he moved out, 2131 01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of shit went down during the six 2132 01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:52,879 Speaker 1: month break. He got somebody pregnant, made her gett an abortion. 2133 01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,880 Speaker 1: I got pregnant by him or the other nigga, I 2134 01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,639 Speaker 1: don't know because I was fucking both of them, honestly, but. 2135 01:35:58,560 --> 01:35:59,759 Speaker 3: I got rid of the baby. 2136 01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:04,320 Speaker 1: Anyways, me and baby Daddy came back together and we 2137 01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,200 Speaker 1: went to get tested together. For all my life, I've 2138 01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,040 Speaker 1: stayed on top of my screenings, but this time he 2139 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,240 Speaker 1: specifically asked for us to get a herpee test, which 2140 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,320 Speaker 1: in all my days, I never knew it was a 2141 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,560 Speaker 1: blood test or that I wasn't even getting tested for it. 2142 01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,880 Speaker 1: When I go to the doctor and say test me 2143 01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,439 Speaker 1: for everything, So mine comes back. 2144 01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:25,959 Speaker 3: Positive and he is his negative. 2145 01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,000 Speaker 1: And more so, I can't pinpoint who gave it because 2146 01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:35,040 Speaker 1: I never had a case or blister, not shit on me. Ever, still, 2147 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:39,240 Speaker 1: after finding out nothing, literally ever, I custs my doctors 2148 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,719 Speaker 1: out from here to hell because I just couldn't wrup 2149 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,360 Speaker 1: my head around how I have checked my pussy every 2150 01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,720 Speaker 1: three to six months since I started fucking. And I'm 2151 01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,360 Speaker 1: finding out this information at twenty four. So now the 2152 01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,639 Speaker 1: present day, I am thirty years old and I don't 2153 01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,559 Speaker 1: want my baby daddy no more. I'm done. But he 2154 01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 1: the only one that knows I have this. 2155 01:36:59,360 --> 01:36:59,599 Speaker 3: Sheit. 2156 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:01,840 Speaker 1: But I want the courage to be honest with the 2157 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:03,479 Speaker 1: next person I decide to be with. 2158 01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,200 Speaker 3: How do I tell them? Am I fucked for life? 2159 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:09,000 Speaker 1: First of all? 2160 01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:10,840 Speaker 2: This is why I said I'm not judging you and 2161 01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to be. This is why sex education 2162 01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,160 Speaker 2: is important and we need to get this shit beyond 2163 01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:16,839 Speaker 2: sixth grade. 2164 01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,720 Speaker 4: Do y'all know sex well? 2165 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,800 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is but sex ed is taught in 2166 01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:26,840 Speaker 2: sixth grade like you had it in high school. But 2167 01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:30,160 Speaker 2: that's not what the average curriculum is. It's because that 2168 01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:37,120 Speaker 2: is absolutely insane that everything that she just said, because 2169 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,519 Speaker 2: why we're not teaching why are we still putting connors 2170 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,760 Speaker 2: on bananas in sex ed? 2171 01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:43,920 Speaker 4: I mean because there's. 2172 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:45,680 Speaker 1: No reason she should be like, oh, I never had 2173 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:47,559 Speaker 1: a cold sore. I never had it. I didn't know 2174 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,880 Speaker 1: what blood tests. That's crazy to me. 2175 01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,960 Speaker 3: STDs LI dorm me for a long. 2176 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:56,520 Speaker 1: Come on now, yeah, come on now. 2177 01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,640 Speaker 3: All of them and they do teach us that. 2178 01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,519 Speaker 2: And like I said, I'm not judging you, but at 2179 01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,960 Speaker 2: the end of the day, you have to live your 2180 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:09,840 Speaker 2: life differently, and you have to be honest with people, 2181 01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,200 Speaker 2: because let me tell you how fucked up it is. 2182 01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,360 Speaker 2: I think that if you know that you have something 2183 01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,160 Speaker 2: and you're sleeping with people, that's literally a criminal offense. 2184 01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:18,679 Speaker 3: Now it is you can go to jail. 2185 01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,040 Speaker 2: That you can go to jail for that if you 2186 01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,240 Speaker 2: if you're sleeping with people knowing that you have something 2187 01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,439 Speaker 2: and you're not letting them be known. So I feel 2188 01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,679 Speaker 2: like with this, you don't have to be with somebody 2189 01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,439 Speaker 2: just because he knows. But you have to be honest. 2190 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,160 Speaker 2: I don't know how. I mean, thank God, I've been blessed. 2191 01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't have anything like that that's incurable or anything 2192 01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:38,920 Speaker 2: like that, so I never have. So I can't tell 2193 01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,519 Speaker 2: you how to have that conversation, but you do need 2194 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,679 Speaker 2: to figure out a way to have that conversation because 2195 01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,880 Speaker 2: you need to have that conversation. Yeah, I agree, And 2196 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,200 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people kind of underestimate. I mean, 2197 01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,400 Speaker 2: there's a whole community, you gotta what's the It's like 2198 01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:55,479 Speaker 2: one in four people have hurpes, so a. 2199 01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,240 Speaker 1: Lot of people. Your baby dad even testing right now, 2200 01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:01,360 Speaker 1: he probably got that shit too. Now you probably you 2201 01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:07,479 Speaker 1: just exactly exactly did he tell you his results came back? 2202 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:13,640 Speaker 1: Did he show you? Okay, So all jokes aside. I 2203 01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:14,120 Speaker 1: feel like. 2204 01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,720 Speaker 2: We need to lean on each other with support communities 2205 01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,440 Speaker 2: as well, a little more like I think finding community 2206 01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:22,080 Speaker 2: is important. 2207 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:26,680 Speaker 5: So so he suggested that she has an STD and 2208 01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:28,679 Speaker 5: then he was negative and she was positive. 2209 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,920 Speaker 4: Exactly. Something ain't right now with water. 2210 01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:35,080 Speaker 2: I feel like he got that he got somebody else pregnant. 2211 01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,320 Speaker 2: You got pregnant? Thought it was his thought. It was 2212 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:42,559 Speaker 2: the why is y'all the people people on the corner 2213 01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:48,240 Speaker 2: he pregnant. You're the mom and baby daddy pregnant. Why 2214 01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,960 Speaker 2: is everybody where the condoms at? I ain't hear nothing 2215 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,479 Speaker 2: about no com y'all are not afraid enough for me? 2216 01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,080 Speaker 1: You like lamb skin, I feel like you can still 2217 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:00,559 Speaker 1: get a little one too, for lambkin. 2218 01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,360 Speaker 3: I heard that lamb skin like you can still get STDs. 2219 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:08,160 Speaker 1: Oh really, because it has fours in it. Sin with fours, 2220 01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:12,360 Speaker 1: that's why it feels so natural. Really, you better get you. 2221 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,439 Speaker 5: A thin damn. I ain't that you gotta get you. 2222 01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:19,280 Speaker 5: I'm thinking I'm protecting you. 2223 01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,080 Speaker 3: Better get you a Magnum and Tiest. 2224 01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,200 Speaker 4: But the maximum ultra thin. 2225 01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:25,160 Speaker 1: They're so thin. 2226 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:30,040 Speaker 4: The Magnum ultra thins are so I don't use coms. 2227 01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:31,599 Speaker 5: But good for you. 2228 01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:37,280 Speaker 1: But uh, when we were using condoms, Magnimum ultra thin. 2229 01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,360 Speaker 1: But I do. But in his defense, though, I do 2230 01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:45,040 Speaker 1: think that they do have lambskin condoms that protects against CD. 2231 01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:49,280 Speaker 5: So well, Magnum has the lambskin thing. But honestly, I 2232 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:50,040 Speaker 5: never looked at it. 2233 01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:51,080 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. 2234 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,960 Speaker 2: I haven't used lambskin columns in a very long time 2235 01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,400 Speaker 2: because I diated one guy a long time ago who 2236 01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,800 Speaker 2: was allergic to l tex so he had to use 2237 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:01,720 Speaker 2: using lambskin, and I. 2238 01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,000 Speaker 1: Never had a problem with it. But I know then 2239 01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:05,160 Speaker 1: this was a long time ago. 2240 01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:06,960 Speaker 2: When I did my research on it, it was like, 2241 01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:09,680 Speaker 2: you know, it's lambskin, so skin has poors in it. 2242 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:14,360 Speaker 2: So the comn the seamen can get through the pores in. 2243 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,320 Speaker 3: The Okay, it does say that. 2244 01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,760 Speaker 1: It says natural lambskin condoms do not protect do not 2245 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,640 Speaker 1: prevent the spread of STDs because of the presence of 2246 01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:26,559 Speaker 1: tiny pores and holes that may allow viruses such as HIV, 2247 01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:30,120 Speaker 1: hippocitis beating herpes to spread. It's important to know that 2248 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,040 Speaker 1: male condoms cannot completely protect you and your partner from 2249 01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:36,080 Speaker 1: contracting the STD. I know a little something now. I've 2250 01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:37,720 Speaker 1: been fucking for a long time. 2251 01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:41,360 Speaker 5: Now, so I was today years old I found out lambskin. 2252 01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,120 Speaker 1: But that's all right, though. That's I don't think you 2253 01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:45,960 Speaker 1: got to ask your stuff. You gotta be like, why 2254 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,040 Speaker 1: these feel way better than late? 2255 01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,479 Speaker 5: Well? You know I so you know a dude brought 2256 01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,400 Speaker 5: it to him, like yo, bro, like because you know condoms. 2257 01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:58,360 Speaker 5: You know, condoms got that drench, that smell that should 2258 01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,080 Speaker 5: make a whole room smell like a locker rooms. I 2259 01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:05,200 Speaker 5: feel like depending on who you mess with to get worse. 2260 01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:11,800 Speaker 1: She ain't use no bora shower before it gets real 2261 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:19,000 Speaker 1: stak in the field, but lay work as it is necessary, 2262 01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,600 Speaker 1: though t tree oil to. 2263 01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,600 Speaker 4: I love to pop me one for a night on 2264 01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:25,320 Speaker 4: the town. 2265 01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:29,360 Speaker 1: Not a night outside but but for real though, Like 2266 01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,880 Speaker 1: that's why I think that it's such a difference in 2267 01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:35,800 Speaker 1: how latex feels and how the lambskin condoms feel because 2268 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:39,240 Speaker 1: it's literally like a second skin. Yes, and so yeah, 2269 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,880 Speaker 1: it has like the poores, it has the holes in it, and. 2270 01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,600 Speaker 4: You like to be meet to meet, which is understandable. 2271 01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,160 Speaker 1: And they feels like need to meet them near with 2272 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:49,360 Speaker 1: the lambskin. But I'm not that I know my health 2273 01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:53,479 Speaker 1: because I sound like a pro. You never used the lambskin, no, 2274 01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:54,960 Speaker 1: I said, I sung, like I know. 2275 01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:57,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I will say I think that you you 2276 01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,400 Speaker 2: have to find your community of people who have had 2277 01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,320 Speaker 2: these conversations before. Like I said, I can't give you 2278 01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,920 Speaker 2: advice on that because I've never had to have that conversation. 2279 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,599 Speaker 2: But I do think that you need to figure out 2280 01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:11,360 Speaker 2: how to have that conversation. But don't stay with your 2281 01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:14,200 Speaker 2: baby daddy just because he knows, you know what I'm saying, 2282 01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:18,160 Speaker 2: like because he not some of my some of the 2283 01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:19,599 Speaker 2: milk ain't clean with him either. 2284 01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,320 Speaker 1: Because like Clay just said, why did he suggest? Yeah, 2285 01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,799 Speaker 1: that's not sitting right in my spirit? 2286 01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,360 Speaker 3: He suggested. Then his she was nigga even yo sho, 2287 01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:32,360 Speaker 3: I don't. 2288 01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:35,559 Speaker 1: Know how he got somebody pregnant, made her have an abortion. 2289 01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:39,479 Speaker 1: Y'all is nasty. Y'all need to stay away from each other. 2290 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,640 Speaker 1: It's getting too long. I don't think they're nasty. I 2291 01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,640 Speaker 1: just think they a little I'm sorry, guy, y'all can 2292 01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:46,200 Speaker 1: judge me. 2293 01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:48,920 Speaker 2: If you get pregnant and you don't know who your 2294 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:51,240 Speaker 2: baby daddy is, you're nasty. 2295 01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:53,680 Speaker 1: You let niggas busting you. 2296 01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,960 Speaker 2: If two niggas busting you in a certain vicinity of 2297 01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:00,960 Speaker 2: time to where you would be confused on hold it, 2298 01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:04,760 Speaker 2: that's nasty. Yes, maybe I'm being judgy and I'm a 2299 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:09,000 Speaker 2: freak bitch. So if I'm calling you nasty, you're nasty. 2300 01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm a freaky exactly. So it's like, uh, you can't 2301 01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,960 Speaker 2: y'all be letting people busting y'all all willing it. Sorry, Sorry, Claire, 2302 01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:21,960 Speaker 2: I know you're trying to reinvent you. 2303 01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 4: You like the nuts and. 2304 01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:29,040 Speaker 1: Ship Oh love is like right, like say go home 2305 01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:35,160 Speaker 1: and throw all them lamb skins. 2306 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,280 Speaker 5: Expensive to like it's like thirty five. 2307 01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said. I was in a relationship 2308 01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:40,240 Speaker 1: with God, like. 2309 01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,760 Speaker 2: He could not use latexs he could not use and 2310 01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:44,559 Speaker 2: we had to use LAMB scan. But after I did 2311 01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,280 Speaker 2: my research, I was like, oh, we don't. 2312 01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't like that. 2313 01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Not she was having 2314 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:52,639 Speaker 4: a ball with the lamp skin. 2315 01:44:53,240 --> 01:45:00,960 Speaker 5: I feel like I felt like I found my knick. Yo. 2316 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:04,880 Speaker 5: I'm talking dudes like yo, They're like, yo, bro, I'm 2317 01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:09,080 Speaker 5: not really feeling these condoms YA got You try these, 2318 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:15,240 Speaker 5: You're gonna it's gonna feel like about like candy. I 2319 01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:18,120 Speaker 5: pass it out because that's I don't know if you 2320 01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:20,240 Speaker 5: heard the price. They're expensive. 2321 01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,680 Speaker 4: You're about to get a brand deal right now. 2322 01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:24,439 Speaker 3: I need to give him a. 2323 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:28,599 Speaker 1: He got a brand deal and bad time he's coming. 2324 01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:31,320 Speaker 1: I love. 2325 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:32,719 Speaker 5: I'm using. 2326 01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,599 Speaker 1: Let the people know, like what you got coming up, 2327 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:37,519 Speaker 1: what you got going on? Where they can find you 2328 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:38,679 Speaker 1: at all that good stuff? 2329 01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:41,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, well you could definitely find me on my Instagram 2330 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:46,920 Speaker 5: at clay Grave Sandy that's g R S C L 2331 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:50,040 Speaker 5: A Y Underscore, g R A V E s A 2332 01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:53,640 Speaker 5: N D E. And then also you can rent out 2333 01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,280 Speaker 5: jest Ski. We got jes Ski's, we got boats. We're 2334 01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:59,360 Speaker 5: bringing jet cars out here, so that's gonna be lit. 2335 01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:03,640 Speaker 5: So you can find out at at Wave Underscore Rentals. 2336 01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,880 Speaker 5: So Waves Sandy Underscore Rentals. I set that wrong, Waves 2337 01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:12,400 Speaker 5: Sandy everything. Yeah, yeah, please do, please. 2338 01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:15,760 Speaker 1: Do because I like Charlotte. It's like another It's lucky time, 2339 01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:16,760 Speaker 1: like Atlanta a little bit. 2340 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:19,479 Speaker 5: It's getting there and shout out to bel Air. Butlair 2341 01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,920 Speaker 5: said they you know, they're gonna support the business. They're 2342 01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,760 Speaker 5: gonna support stuff. So we're gonna be throwing like parties, 2343 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:28,639 Speaker 5: you know, also as well and Charlotte, I'm gonna bite 2344 01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:31,160 Speaker 5: by Atlanta family out there. You know what I'm saying. 2345 01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,920 Speaker 5: You know, Lanta's Atlanta's second home, so you know, and 2346 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:35,720 Speaker 5: i'ma be out here too. I might even come out 2347 01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:37,920 Speaker 5: here and throw something like may do you a little local. 2348 01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:44,240 Speaker 1: Sho Okay, So shout out to Clay Love is blind. 2349 01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:45,160 Speaker 4: And we'll see y'all next week. 2350 01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:45,680 Speaker 5: Ya. 2351 01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:51,840 Speaker 1: We gotta saying right now, you're gonna feel loss. 2352 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,720 Speaker 5: I don't feel it. You're gonna feel this. 2353 01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:58,200 Speaker 4: Who's sad? 2354 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:08,120 Speaker 1: Oh? Oh sing it dry? Say it right? 2355 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:08,720 Speaker 5: What's up? 2356 01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2357 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:17,040 Speaker 5: Me and my people get riding your hommide. Yeah. 2358 01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:22,240 Speaker 1: I saw her out in a Hummabee hit the park party. 2359 01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,200 Speaker 1: I hope that you walk this period your girls gonna 2360 01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:33,000 Speaker 1: ride say all day on a lie. You know that. 2361 01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:37,439 Speaker 1: I like your baby girl? You know what's you know 2362 01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:40,519 Speaker 1: what I need? They want to say? 2363 01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:41,360 Speaker 4: Say what? 2364 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:42,000 Speaker 5: You know? 2365 01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:46,120 Speaker 1: What about it? Baby girl? You know what's up? 2366 01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:54,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? I'm you know. 2367 01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:03,639 Speaker 1: I messed up? Girl? 2368 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:04,599 Speaker 5: What's up? 2369 01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:05,879 Speaker 1: Okay? 2370 01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:09,480 Speaker 4: Hey, Mama's and I'm toning. 2371 01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:13,240 Speaker 5: Right around two in the morning, looking fluff flowing sun 2372 01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:14,160 Speaker 5: dress song. 2373 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:16,000 Speaker 3: Coming on? 2374 01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:21,759 Speaker 5: You got me? Why open damn hoping? Baby? 2375 01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:27,200 Speaker 1: Don't from you know what I want? I would say 2376 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:28,800 Speaker 1: what's say what? You know what? 2377 01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,639 Speaker 5: I like it? Baby girl? 2378 01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:32,680 Speaker 3: You know what's up? 2379 01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:34,160 Speaker 1: And you know what money? 2380 01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:36,120 Speaker 5: What? 2381 01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:36,640 Speaker 4: Say what? 2382 01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:37,280 Speaker 3: Say what? 2383 01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:40,960 Speaker 1: You know all about it? Baby girl? 2384 01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:45,280 Speaker 3: You know what you. 2385 01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:48,759 Speaker 5: Want saying? 2386 01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,360 Speaker 1: You girl, you know what's up? 2387 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:59,599 Speaker 5: You know what's up? I'm he won't say you tell 2388 01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:00,840 Speaker 5: me Whatso. 2389 01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:07,080 Speaker 1: First of all, we're outside, shout out to Clay and 2390 01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:15,719 Speaker 1: the lamps. What's y'all? Next week? That was a boss