1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Wednesday edition. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Encourage you to go 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: follow the show. You can stream us. You can find 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: all the different clips from the show that you might 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: have missed at Clay and Buck dot Com. Also want 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: to encourage you to go download the podcast. We have 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: been surging up to the top of the podcast ranks. 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: I know how many of you are listening in four 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: hundred plus AMFM stations all fifty states. But Buck, that's 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: pretty encouraging to see how well people have been responding 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: to the podcast. We can see the tangible numbers they've 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: been through the roof. I think that's something that we 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: got to keep on because until until we're at that 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: number one ranking, Clay, our work here is not done. 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: We have been consistently top five. I'd like to be 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: number one. That would be nice. We've been to insistently 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: top fifteen or twenty and all the podcasts that exist 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: anywhere in the nation and around the world, and we 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you wherever you're listening to us. You 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: can follow Buck Sexton at buck Sexton, you can follow me. 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: I am Clay Travis at Clay Travis and of course 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: the show is on Twitter and Facebook at Clay and Buck. 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: And one thing I bet that a lot of people 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter and Facebook and certainly many of you listening 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: out there are ready for is you know what happened 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: with Kamala Harris buck. She's been saying she didn't need 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: to go to the border. She hadn't been to Europe either, 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, Donald Trump is scheduled 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: to be at the border in five days. And what 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: has happened, buck Sexton. Oh, she's going, Clay, She's going down. 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: In fact, Trump effectively shamed the borders are into going 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: to said border, which is a remarkable thing when you 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: think about it. Ninety one days friends after she was 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: named immigrations are she has finally come out or spokes 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: persons or whatever have said that she will go down 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: on Friday, just in time to beat former President Trump. 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Will be down there in just a few days after 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: it with Governor Abbot of Texas. And one thing about 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: about Texas on this one, and yes there's there's going 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: to be. We don't ever want to make any of 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: the other states jealous. There's a fair amount of Florida 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: high fiving on the show. There's also some Texas high 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: fiving that goes on here because you know, the state 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: of Texas Clay has decided to take border matters into 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: its own hands at some level. They are building some 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: sections of wall themselves. They're bringing in additional law enforcement 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: officers from Florida among other states to help with the 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: surge and help with the issues at the border. And 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: having been down there just a couple of months ago myself, 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: we were talking about law enforcement being overwhelmed. Border patrol 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: is completely overwhelmed with let's all be very clear, the 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: worst numbers of apprehensions and illegal crossings and got aways, 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: which are people who just made it into the US 55 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: never got taken into custy at all. Really ever, it's 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: at least twenty years, but based on the trends in 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: the trajectory, you can pretty much say this is the 58 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: worst the border has ever been, which is not a 59 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: good thing. I think, no matter what your politics might be. 60 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: And Kamala Harris, I think this is significant that she's going, 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: but also don't miss what she's trying to do. Buck 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: She's going in on a Friday, hoping that her friends 63 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: in the media will bury this story. Rolling into a 64 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: summer weekend, right, going on Friday, you hope, Hey, Saturday, Sunday, 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: everybody's going out to the pool, everybody's on vacation, everything else. Well, 66 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: this goes to show you that there really was a belief, 67 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: I think it in the in the Harris camp, that 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: she could get away with saying that, you know, it's 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: not a big deal. Why do I have to go 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: to the border as the borders are? And then when 71 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: all the criticism got piled on and on all the 72 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: folks out there, we're saying, hold on a second, and 73 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: we should actually play if we if we have it? 74 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: It's a classic, the classic do we do we have? Oh? Yes, 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: here here remember, let's let's play for everybody just to 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: trip down memory lane with our our our borders are. 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: Do you have any plans to visit the border at 78 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: some point? You know we are going to the border. 79 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: We've been to the border. So this whole, this whole, 80 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: this whole thing about the border. We've been to the border. 81 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: We've been to the border. You haven't been to the border, 82 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: and I haven't been to Europe, and I don't understand 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: the point that you're making. This was one of those 84 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: awesome moments where you just this, this is lesser wholt. 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he's trying to just do 86 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: his interview thing, and he's like, look, you're the vice president. 87 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to cause issues here, but you have 88 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: not been to the boarder. You can't look me in 89 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: the eyes in an interview on my show when we 90 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: all know you. The whole point is you haven't been. 91 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: You don't get to say, oh, yes, we have Clay, 92 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: we've been to the border. What is we have you, 93 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Kamal err if the borders aren't been to the border. 94 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: And what I think is so interesting about Kamala Harris 95 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: in general, she's got a Cruella Deville about her personality, 96 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: like where she tries to kind of laugh her way 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: and smile her way through answers to questions like these. 98 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: But Buck, she's been in primetime in theory for a 99 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: long time. She ran for president. It's a senator from California, 100 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: she was an attorney general. She's dealt with the media 101 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: for a long time. I think certainly they've used kid 102 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: gloves with her, But how is it that she wasn't 103 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: prepared for a question like this? I still every time 104 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: I hear that, I cringe because it's almost a veep moment. 105 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: I think about her staff when they were watching that 106 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: and seeing it, and I wonder did they not prep her? 107 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: Were they so stunned that lester Holt like, go, Let's 108 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: listen to that clip again because I know it's a classic. 109 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: But the degree of arrogance from her to first of 110 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: all lie directly to lester Holt about something that is 111 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: very clear that he could call her on, and then 112 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: to follow it up with such a dismissive line about 113 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: why I haven't been to Europe and all, I'm not 114 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: quizzing you about NATO, I'm not quizzing you about Brussels. 115 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm quizzing you about the border. Why would you focus 116 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: and even try to pivot in such a stupid way? 117 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: Listen to this again because I think it is an 118 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: emblematic moment with Kamala Harris where you really get the 119 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: sense that she's not very good on her feet, and 120 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: also that she's expecting for lester Holt to just accept 121 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: her lie and move on. This is sometimes you hear 122 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: a thirty second clip, and I think it's an important 123 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: window into the larger media universe, both for the candidate 124 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: and or the vice president in this case, but also 125 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: the media environment in general. Let's listen to one more time. 126 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: You have any plans to visit the border at some point, 127 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: we are going to the border. We've been to the border. 128 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border. 129 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: We've been to the border. We've been to the border. 130 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been 131 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: to Europe. And I mean, I don't I don't understand 132 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: the point that you're making. Well, we all understood the point. 133 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: One understands the point. Everybody knew exactly what I can't. 134 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: I can see without being there. The looks on the 135 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: faces of her staffers just just also saying the beat 136 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: moment that that is. It could have been more clear. 137 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: But let's get into the why why would she? I mean, 138 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: now we know it's because Trump. Look, Trump gets results 139 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: once again, he's getting results on this. She has to 140 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: go down because otherwise Trump going down creates a photo 141 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: op that's even more damaging than the photo ops she 142 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: was trying to avoid, which was Kamala Harris at the 143 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: US Mexico border. As the borders are as, the numbers 144 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: keep coming out and it continues to get worse. This 145 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: is an issue, and this is the on a policy level. 146 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: The takeaway here that everyone needs to understand is that 147 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the Democrats don't want this situation to stop. They want 148 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: to control the optics of what's happening, which is the 149 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: massive you want to talk about systematic, This is the 150 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: systematic gaming of our asylum process by people who are entered. 151 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: They are breaking the law. So many commentators get that wrong. 152 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: Even if you surrender at the border, say here, I 153 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: am I want to claim asylum when you enter onto 154 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: US soil. To do that not at a port of entry, 155 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: that is a violation of statute. And then they've so 156 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: overwhelmed the system and the cartels are making hundreds of 157 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: millions of dollars on this now on top of all 158 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: the drugs that they're running by having border patrol have 159 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: to deal with all the people that are coming across. 160 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: So this then becomes an issue of how do Democrats 161 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: stop something clay that they actually think in the long 162 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: run benefits them politically, because they still want an amnesty 163 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: and they feel like this is first of all, the 164 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: virtue signaling on this is great, Yeah, open borders, let's 165 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: give away free healthcare, as they said on the debate stage, 166 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: and the Democrat primary to illegal immigrants. There So the party, 167 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party has moved so far left that they 168 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: can't even pretend to want to stop illegal immigration from 169 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: a current. That's where we really are. And so Kamala 170 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: Harris doesn't want to go down because she's not going 171 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: to fix this problem, because she doesn't really want to 172 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: fix this problem. And she's going on Friday because she 173 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: hopes it gets buried into the weekend, and to your point, 174 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: because she knows when Donald Trump with other Republican congressmen 175 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: goes next week, they were going to be able to 176 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: wield a massive attack on her and the Biden administration 177 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: in general by saying, Hey, I'm not even president right now, 178 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: but I can make it down to check and see 179 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: what's going on in the border. Your current administration has 180 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: still not manage that. And so what she's trying to 181 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: do is blunt that attack by going down on Friday, 182 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: hoping a lot of people aren't going to pay attention, 183 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: and then she can say well, I've now been to 184 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: the border, and it's amazing that this is the first 185 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: real thing that has been put on the Kamala Harris ledger, 186 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: so to speak. And yet we all know I mean, 187 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: and we'll be talking for this a lot. There's a 188 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: widespread belief that she will be the next Democrat. I 189 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: don't know if it's incumbent, but the next Democrat president 190 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: of the United It would they be racist and sexist 191 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: for her not to be the nominee in twenty twenty 192 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: four by the Democrat's own standards. And yet what has 193 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: she shown us so far of actual ability and results 194 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: in office. I'll never forget back during the primary, the 195 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: Democrat primary, when she said very very nonchalant and arrogant fashion. 196 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's clear I'm a top tier candidate. It's like, 197 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: actually the voters, the crack voters had a very different 198 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: feeling about this. Well, she's not likable, that's the essence. 199 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: And this is why I hope she's the nominee in 200 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four because Kamala Harris, if you put her 201 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: on a stage, ultimately, this is a TV contest. Kamala 202 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: Harris has no children. She is married to a dorky 203 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: white dude lawyer. And I can say that because I'm 204 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: kind of a dorky, white dude lawyer. She doesn't have 205 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: a history of being particularly likable. And depending on who 206 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: the nominee is for the Republican Party in twenty twenty four, 207 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: I believe that what Kamala Harris is going to lean 208 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: on is the same thing that Hillary Clinton leaned on, 209 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: which is I'm a woman, I deserve this. And she's 210 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: also going to add in I'm a minority woman, I 211 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: deserve this. And I don't think America responds to I 212 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: deserve to be elected because of my identity. I really don't. 213 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: The CNN Green Room does. That's really that's where it does. 214 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: But even if you go back in Obama two thousand 215 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: and eight, that was a America is Amazing campaign. Obama 216 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight would be a Republican campaign now, 217 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 1: it was Hey, I'm a single, I got a mom, 218 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm mixed race, I'm from Hawaii, I got a weird name, 219 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: and I can still be elected president of the United States. 220 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: Go back and look at what he ran on in 221 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Now, his biography on his two 222 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: autobiographies Democrats run on entitlement now. They deserve it because 223 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: of their identity Atlone, not because America is an amazing place. 224 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: We'll have to come back to what Obama ran on 225 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: another time in O eight. I think it's a fascinating question. 226 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: Go look at it. Opposed a gay marriage. He couldn't 227 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: be the nominee. Obama couldn't in twenty twenty or twenty 228 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: twenty four. He would be a racist and a sexists 229 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: by their same standard. Their old positions would be reason 230 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: for cancelations if they were Republicans. But they don't apply 231 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: the same state. Don't apply the same state. 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Clay and Buck classes are 258 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: back in session here at the Institute of Advanced Conservative 259 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: Studies Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network. 260 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Kamala 261 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: Harris headed down to the Border and I actually think 262 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: this is interesting buck. We've talked about this off air, 263 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't think you've talked about it on the air. 264 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: Unlike Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, you have actually been 265 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: down to the border somewhat recently, and you can actually 266 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: tell people what it's like, what you saw, and what 267 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: the border agents who you interacted with talked about from 268 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: their perspective. Anyone who tells you that the border isn't 269 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: open either doesn't know what they're talking about or is 270 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: lying to you. Now you could argue it's not entirely open. 271 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: But when I was down in McCallan, Texas and rotting 272 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: along with some border patrol folks and going to see 273 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: a different areas of the border, what's really happening. It 274 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: is a constant inflow of people who are all paying 275 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: off the cartels. They have to you know, the cartels 276 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: break down border areas and what they call plazas, and 277 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: there's a fee, a per head fee to come across. 278 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: And the police on the Mexican side of the borders, 279 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: we know, are largely outgunned and often corrupt, so you 280 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: can't rely on them really as partners in this process. 281 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: In fact, many times they're co opted by the cartels. 282 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: And I stood there Clay and I saw particularly family units, 283 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: but women coming across with young children, and they have 284 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: bracelets on them to show that they've paid the cartel fee. 285 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: They have pieces of paper with the number and name 286 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: of someone in this country once they've crossed in illegally 287 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: that they're supposed to then be transferred to. And this 288 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: is all about gaming the system because the family units 289 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: get different treatment and depending on the age of the 290 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: child at the border, there's a greatly enhanced likelihood of 291 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: being able to stay in the country. And the HHS 292 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: facilities like the Donna facility in McAllen, and I've been 293 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: to the border in Alpasso and at San Diego, the 294 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: San Diego Tijuana. I found out, by the way, it 295 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: is not Tijuana. What is it Tijuana? That's how you pronounced. 296 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't speak a word of Spanish, but 297 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I know it's Tijuana now, So no moss Tijuana for me. 298 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: And they they made it very clear when I when 299 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: I would go to each of these different sections of 300 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: the border that as long as the incentives Clayer place 301 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: for the cartel to keep bringing people in this way, 302 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: because there's a very high likelihood that they'll be able 303 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: to that their human cargo will be able to stay. 304 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: The flow keeps coming. You're gonna have a million plus 305 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: illegal entries in the United States this year, a million plus, 306 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: say one point five million, maybe even more. I just 307 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: think it's so instructive because, to your credit, you talk 308 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: about an issue and you've actually gone and been there. 309 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: And it also is why I find Kamala Harris's I 310 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: haven't been to Europe line so offensive to so many people. 311 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: I think so many of our listeners do as well, 312 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: because where you go and what you focus on tells 313 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: us what matters to you. And I understand. Look, when 314 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: you're a politician, there are a billion things coming at 315 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: you every single day. And look, we know a little 316 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: bit about this on this show because people sometimes say, hey, 317 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: how come we didn't talk about X, or how can 318 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about why? We try to talk about 319 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: things that matter to us and we believe are going 320 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: to matter to you. And when you are telling me 321 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: you are the borders are you haven't been willing to 322 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: actually go to the border, I'm sorry that tells me 323 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: far more than I think you realize that you are 324 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: telling me, and then you try to insult us by 325 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: saying I haven't been to Europe either. I'm sorry, I'm 326 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: not buying it. Just to your point, Clay, I think 327 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: often the biggest editorial decision you can make is actually 328 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: what you focus on, more so than even how you 329 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: cover it. But you know we're going to cover in 330 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: just a moment here Bernie Sanders is upset that the 331 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: filibuster is still in place. Is this fight over? We're 332 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: gonna answer that for you in just a moment. But 333 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, my dad has been taken Relief Factor. He's 334 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: over seventy years old, he's an avid golfers, actually got 335 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: a pretty good handicap, he's got quite a nice swing 336 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: from the teas, and he takes Relief Factor to help 337 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: with aches and pains. 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Thank you for calling 374 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: in from my homestead of New York, now Clay. Yesterday, 375 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: we were having our big chat about the filibuster. Yes, 376 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: and this is something that the Democrats have been talking 377 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: about for months. You'd think that because he had Mansion 378 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: in cinema come out and say, all right, you know, 379 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: but but then Mansion gets a little gets a little 380 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: weak in the knees, it seems, over this thing. And 381 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: now Bernie Sanders is out there telling everybody that it's time. 382 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: You know, our our democracy is at risk and we 383 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: come through this that I'm sitting here with this evil 384 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: capitalist with no mask on named Clay Travis, and I'm 385 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: telling you he's a He is a threat every day 386 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: on radio to democracy. And here's Bernie saying that the 387 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: filibuster is also a threat to democracy. Go ahead, I'm 388 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: tired of talking about mister Mansion and miss Cinema. You know, 389 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: we have got to do what we can to bring 390 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: people together. The American people, I think all over this 391 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: country understand that now is the time to act. And 392 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: I will also tell you know, clearly we are constrained 393 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: by the fact that we only have shifty Democrats. And 394 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: to my mind, what this next election is going to 395 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: be about is whether the American people want us to 396 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: have a government that represents all people that believes in 397 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: democracy or not. And we need a hell of a 398 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: lot more Democrats in the Senate that we have right now. 399 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: What's so interesting about these comments from Bernie Sanders is 400 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: there's the usual fluff. And by the way, your Bernie 401 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: Sanders impersonation is almost spot on. I mean, that is 402 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: a that is a very good impersonation. I have to say, 403 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: Bernie sounds like he's acknowledging that basically, the don't ever 404 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: use any crisis, don't let a crisis go to waste 405 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: argument is effectively given up the ghost here because that's 406 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: an argument for twenty twenty two, it's not really an 407 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: argument for twenty twenty one. That's what stands out to 408 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: me about what he's saying. Even though he's trying to 409 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: not want to talk about Joe Manchin and Kristin Cinema, 410 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: two of his Senate colleagues, and the Democratic Party, he's 411 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: acknowledging that they don't have the votes to change the filibuster. 412 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: And if they don't have the votes to change the filibuster, 413 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: then effectively they have to work with the Republicans or 414 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: nothing's going to happen. This feels to me like a 415 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: very defeatist statement by Bernie Sanders. Let me just say 416 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: that anyone who leans on the phrase a lot in 417 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: public life, crisis and our democracy, yes, is somebody that 418 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: you gotta wonder about what they're saying, no matter what 419 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: the subject matter is. It's like somebody that's always putting 420 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: forward their pronouns when nobody asks. They're telling you a 421 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: lot just by using the phrase crisis and our democracy. 422 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: And I think that with Bernie Sanders, obviously there's a 423 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: degree of him just pushing this issue so that the 424 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: left wing base feels like, you know, the revolution is alive, 425 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: and well he feels us, He knows resistance is still living, 426 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: he knows where we are on this or where they 427 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: are party on this issue. But I also don't think 428 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: it's important for everyone to recognize that the very people 429 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: who are constantly talking about the undermining of our democracy 430 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: when they don't get their way. Bernie Sanders is just 431 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: an example of this, and the undermining of our institutions 432 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: are people who want to radically transform our institutions and 433 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: therefore our democracy. So there's this. You add this all together, 434 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: you say whole on a second. They always talked about 435 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: it for four years under Trump, it was all our 436 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: sacred institutions, and now they're trying to dramatically change those 437 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: very institutions, all under this idea that if they don't 438 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: get their way, then we're all under threat, the insurrections coming. 439 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: And I think I'm like a lot of people where 440 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: I feel like as if we have gotten a big win, 441 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: even though it's not being talked about as much by 442 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Joe Manchin. I know you're skeptical that they're going to 443 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: stay committed to being opposed to the filibuster in Kristen 444 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: Center because and you made an argument yesterday. I think 445 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: it's a good one, Buck, where you were saying, Hey, 446 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: the seducing of these Democratic politicians is not going to end. 447 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: But once you put it in writing in your local 448 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: West Virginia newspaper. And by the way, I think there's 449 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: a strong argument that the last statewide Democrat to ever 450 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: be elected from West Virginia in any of our lives 451 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: is Joe Manchon, and he knows that, and if he 452 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: wants to be re elected in twenty twenty four, he 453 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: barely was reelected in twenty eighteen. And I think Kristin 454 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: Cinema knows that the state of Arizona twenty twenty was 455 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: an aberration, and I think she recognizes how much of 456 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: a balancing act being able to be re elected in 457 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: John McCain's home state and a historically strong conservative market 458 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: is going to be. So I tend to believe that 459 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: once they put it in writing, they're not going to 460 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: bend on the will of the filibuster. Do you think 461 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: that the filibuster is truly done, or do you think 462 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: that it still could come up that the Democrats find 463 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: a way to overturn sixty vote number. I was somebody 464 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: who back in the Obamacare era when we were being 465 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: it was a bit of a consensus position. They won't 466 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: really do this without a single Republican vote, right, they 467 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: won't go that scorched earth and hardcore on this issue. 468 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: And they did it, and they got it through. As 469 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: we all remember to what we agreed on yesterday, that 470 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: Democrats are willing in a way that Republicans are just 471 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: simply not to go for it, you know, to make 472 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: that final push, to pull the trigger, so to speak. 473 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: That Democrats are willing to make it happen. I think 474 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: that this is this is something where they're going to 475 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: try to read the room a bit, read the polls 476 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: really and see is it enough to merely play the 477 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: oh they're obstructing us card, and so they'll back off. 478 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: The Republicans are obstructing, So they back off going into 479 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: the midterms in an effort to keep the House, which 480 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: you and I both know is going to be very 481 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: tough for Democrats this time around. But they want to 482 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: try to keep that because they know if you have 483 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: divided government and abiding presidency, this guy's not a leader. 484 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: This guy's mister mcdou. If Biden is even still there, right, 485 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: I mean, if he doesn't step down, and I always 486 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: tell everyone this, try to try to get this on 487 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: the record. The moment that Biden and who knows when 488 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: it will be, decides that for personal health reasons, whatever it, 489 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: maybe he's gonna step down, everyone who's currently saying that's 490 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: a crazy conspiracy theory will act like, oh, of course 491 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: he said. You know, he's almost eighty years old. Guys 492 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: like you know, this is the game that they're that 493 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: they're playing all along here. We just saw it happen 494 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: with COVID and the league from the lab. Oh, it's 495 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: a crazy conspiracy theory. How dare you have that perspective? 496 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: As soon as it starts to go into the mainstream, 497 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: John Stewart comes out, makes a joke. Everybody in the 498 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert audience is rolling over with hysterical laughter at 499 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: the idea that anyone ever believed that that COVID didn't 500 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: come out of the Wuhan Virology Lab. I also think 501 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: there's a childishness that is running rampant, and you have 502 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: kids that I don't, so you actually have to deal 503 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: with child By the way, might say that I'm the 504 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: biggest child in the house if she were sitting in 505 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: the studio with us right now. But yes, I have 506 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: three kids under thirteen. But there is a childishness at 507 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: the heart of the Democrat Party with the arguments here 508 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: against the filibuster, because what they're really saying is we 509 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: want to get it our way this time now because 510 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: there's this this false urgency. But I would I would 511 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: counter with that kind of transformational things. I mean, federalizing 512 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: national elections, for example, should be hard from a legislative perspective, 513 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 1: DC Puerto Rico getting four senators should be hard. Adding 514 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: six Supreme Court justices that should be a pretty high standard. 515 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: I think to meet and gridlock is just a way 516 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: of saying balance of powers working as it does. Agreeing 517 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: to radical change. Gridlock is not a bad thing to me. 518 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating with all the all the flip flopping, 519 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: and we should break back that term or remember when 520 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: that was basically the end of John Kerry, Yes, and 521 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: when he was running for Press four before you were 522 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: against it. That's right. At ever, at rallies, it was 523 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: always flip flop, flip flop. Not quite as fun as 524 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: build the Wall, but flip flop had its moment, the 525 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: Democrat flip flopping on issues having to do with our 526 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: institutions of government. But but also the narrative against Trump 527 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: was the hashtag resistance. Yes, and it was the hashtag 528 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: resistance judiciary, legislature, anything anywhere in government where they could. 529 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: And this was, by the way, people I know well 530 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: from the previous White House said that the just the 531 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg. What you've heard of what has 532 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: been reported about how many people in the federal bureaucracy 533 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: would just essentially say, no, make us Yeah, you're the president, 534 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: you're the head of the executive branch, but we're not 535 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: going to do that. We're gonna take our time. So 536 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: there was an intransigence, a kind of internal sabotage, and 537 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: that was all the hashtag resistance. Now, when Republicans use 538 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: the very system of government that we have in a 539 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: completely legitimate way to say we're not going along with you, 540 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: the Democrats are like, it's time for the steamroller. Let's 541 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: get that steamroller. And to her credit, in the Washington 542 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: Post editorial that she put out yesterday that we talked about. 543 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Kristin Cinema pointed out that thirty one Democratic senators, including 544 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Joe Biden himself, had been opposed to doing away with 545 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: the filibuster in twenty seventeen. As a part of the resistance. 546 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: The thing that they held to most stringently was the idea, well, 547 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: at least you're gonna need to get sixty votes in 548 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: order to enact radical transformation. And it should be hard 549 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: buck think about this. If you're gonna go from nine 550 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: Supreme Court senators to fifteen, just should be yes. Three 551 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: Court senator to be an interesting angle too. Fifteen justice 552 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: it should be insanely hard to add senators in Washington, 553 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: DC and Puerto Rico and states. That should be massively 554 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: hard as well. This shouldn't be an easy thing to do. 555 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: And yet we're told that the false urgency of now 556 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: dictates that everything that we've known in the past about 557 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: government no longer. No longer everything they've said, forget about 558 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: what we know. Everything the Democrats used to say about 559 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: the balance of powers and how this all works does 560 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: not matter the for me. There are so many great 561 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: phrases from the Obama era, there was leading from behind, 562 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: there was strategic patience. I mean, you didn't you didn't 563 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: build that. You didn't build that. But if you wanted 564 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: the really defining and of course ram Emanuel didn't come 565 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: up with this, I think you could go back to Sunsu. 566 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: You could go back to the ancient god's Chinese wisdom, 567 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: and you could go back and realize that when ram 568 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: Emanuel is the White House Chief of Staff, said a 569 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: crisis is a terrible thing to waste. Democrats, you'll go 570 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: they lurch from one crisis to the next. And that's 571 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: the pitch. COVID is an opportunity, The debt is an opportunity. 572 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: The border, even for them, is an opportunity. And that's 573 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: why the insurrection and all the rest of it is 574 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: so important to them. And I've got a quote, by 575 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: the way, when I use that term, I use the 576 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: term to disparage the notion that it was an insurrection, 577 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: which it flat lee was not. I mean, I used 578 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: to work in the CIA, I know, I know a 579 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: bit about coups, folks. It wasn't a coup. 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When we 609 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: come back, we're diving into the insurrection in quotation marks 610 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: look again, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're rolling through 611 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: hanging out with you guys. Appreciate all of you spending 612 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: your time with us. A lot of you want to 613 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: weigh in on a different topics. Let me take a 614 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: few of your calls. We get ready to tee up 615 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: the third hour of the program. Let's go to Stephanie 616 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: in Kentucky. Stephanie, what's up? Hi? I just wanted to 617 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: say a couple things about the fellabus to real quick 618 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: if I could. I think it's worth mentioning. A lot 619 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: of people who are conservatives realize this, but the Democrats 620 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: only have a fifty one to forty nine percent majority 621 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: in Congress, so when they say these things like there's 622 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: this mandate that we have to create these big changes. 623 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: The numbers aren't on their side, and the point remind 624 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: anyone of that, and I think that's worth keeping in 625 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: mind that all of Americas should keep that in mind. 626 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: But they really don't have a mandate behind them. I 627 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: think that's a great point. And in fact, if you 628 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: add in governorships, I believe Republicans have twenty seven governorships 629 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: and Democrats have twenty three, which again goes back to 630 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: Stephanie's point here from Kentucky. Great call. I mean, we're 631 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: in a fifty fifty divided government book, and so this 632 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: idea that there's some massive mandate that exists. I mean, 633 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is breaking ties in the Senate fifty fi. 634 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: If we're looking at this from the perspective of dare 635 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: I say, fairness, you would think that now should be 636 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: a time for extreme bipartisan measures, not extreme unilateral measures 637 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: the steamroller, As I said before, you know, they're revn 638 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,959 Speaker 1: that thing up, like who needs Republican opposition? Who cares? 639 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: Let's just squash them. It's about fifty fifty folks, And 640 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't you know. We can talk about the election, 641 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: the presidential election another day, another time. But it wasn't 642 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: some huge mandate either. When you look at the margins 643 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: in a lot of state, thousand votes Buck twenty thousand, 644 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: people change their mind. Even with the totals that are 645 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: out there right now. That's one college basketball arena, that's 646 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: one NBA or NHL arena. And we're talking about Donald 647 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: Trump being reelected even based on the numbers that are 648 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: out there right now. Bill also wants to weigh in, 649 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: which you got for me? Bill? How you doing, guys? 650 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for fantastic I went to weigh in on 651 00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: the filibuster. I'm a strong Second Amendment advocate. And with 652 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: that for the filibuster, if they're talking about doing away 653 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 1: with they want to do away with that, I'm want 654 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: to remind the Democrats how many times they've used that 655 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: against the Republicans. So if they do away with the filibuster, 656 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: I think come the next election, we're going to clean 657 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: their playoff in the House of the Senate and we're 658 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: not going to have the filibuster to have to deal with. 659 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: And boy, you talk about stirring the pot. We're going 660 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: after a lot of things they have tried that they 661 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: have successfully defended using the filibuster, so they no. Sorry 662 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: to cut you off, Bill, we got a hard out 663 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: coming up here in a minute to finish the second hour. 664 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: But to Bill's point, that's the argument against the filibuster 665 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: right as you would have extremes from one side to 666 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: the other in the by the way, that's what Mitch 667 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: McConnell said when the filibuster was taken away, as it 668 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: pertains to spring Court justices, and he was right, as 669 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: you pointed out yesterday with that warning, it's exactly how 670 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: it played out, and you have now caving off for example. 671 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: I hope even beyond we always we always focus in 672 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: the media too much. I think on the Supreme Court, 673 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: the federal judiciary, across the board Circuit Court matters a 674 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot in terms of how the 675 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: law is applied in this country, what it all means. 676 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: So it was a game changer, and Democrats certainly lived 677 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: to rue the day that they went with the nuclear option. 678 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: It was not the right move. Look, next hour, we've 679 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: got the insurrection that wasn't an insurrection. Updates on that 680 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: for you, and also the rebellion against CRT at school boards. 681 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: Big story out of Virginia on that coming up. You're 682 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton fund the EIB 683 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: Network