Speaker 1: Welcome to what's burning. And look who we got here,
Speaker 1: mister Finals MVP himself, Paul Pierce and four time All Star,
Speaker 1: two time Olympic gold medalist friend of all of ours,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Cousins. But you welcome. You're a no stranger to
Speaker 1: the Showtime Basketball family. But making that a little bit
Speaker 1: more official now as you also still keep in shape
Speaker 1: and are ready to get back in the League's what's
Speaker 1: the balance here between your burgeoning media empire and you're
Speaker 1: I'm full damn mode now. So I've been enjoying that.
Speaker 1: This is the first time in my career where I've
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to just be at home watching my
Speaker 1: kids grow, drop them off at school, pick them up. So, um,
Speaker 1: I've embraced that role in it. You know, it's really
Speaker 1: been dope for me. Um. And uh, you know, just
Speaker 1: trying to stick to my same basketball skills, you know,
Speaker 1: lived and you know, playing some type of you know,
Speaker 1: five on five daily just to keep my motor running
Speaker 1: and being a game shape. So just trying to maintain
Speaker 1: all that and be what my name is called. This
Speaker 1: man is still in his early thirties. I think you
Speaker 1: have done so much in this league people forget that.
Speaker 1: But does your body feel I mean, you haven't been
Speaker 1: taken the pounding you did during a regular season, so
Speaker 1: how do you feel in terms of what you still
Speaker 1: have to give? And I feel great. I got a
Speaker 1: lot left in the tank. I'm one percent healthy. I've
Speaker 1: taken about four years also thirty two, but I'm really
Speaker 1: about you know, I'm a couple of years young. I'm
Speaker 1: really twenty nine. All right, we'll give you that. Paul
Speaker 1: likes to say he's twenty nine two, but he's not.
Speaker 1: He is never oh, never grow over. Well, I'm glad
Speaker 1: we have you here, while we have you here with
Speaker 1: the full expectation you'll be catching on somewhere at some
Speaker 1: point and you'll just do this from the road, so
Speaker 1: it'll be fine, like Draymond and c. J McCollums, So
Speaker 1: it'll be all good. I do want to talk about
Speaker 1: one of your former teams to start, and y'all were
Speaker 1: arguing about this before the cameras even started rolling, which
Speaker 1: tells you how real this discussion is. All right, the
Speaker 1: Bucks have won fourteen games in a row as we
Speaker 1: all sit here. The Celtics they did lose on Monday,
Speaker 1: so that actually put Milwaukee into first place. But god,
Speaker 1: this is like as close as it can beat when
Speaker 1: you compare these two teams championship chances. I want to
Speaker 1: break down their starting five for you guys, So we
Speaker 1: put the fives up here in the studio. Let's just
Speaker 1: start with Boogie. Who's the best player on the court
Speaker 1: when these when these ten guys are on the court.
Speaker 1: We'll show him up on the screen too. When you
Speaker 1: get these ten guys in the court, who's the best
Speaker 1: player in the courts? Do you think that's true for sure?
Speaker 1: I mean, then Yanna's the best player in the league. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. He's the best. Burns was in
Speaker 1: here the other day. I believe he said he thought
Speaker 1: Jason was better. I mean, just the way Janni's affected Gay.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm myself, I foul love the self.
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, you know, honest as a two time MVP,
Speaker 1: he's in his prime. He dominates both ends of the court.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody is doing the things he's doing on
Speaker 1: both levels, on both sides of the ball equally like him.
Speaker 1: So I'll give him the edge, all right, So Jhanna's
Speaker 1: number one. Jason Tatum number two. We can all agree
Speaker 1: who's the third best player on the court, best player,
Speaker 1: Let not go there. Drew honestly think it's n I
Speaker 1: told you, I told you. Yeah, I'm going with Drew Holliday.
Speaker 1: Third best player on the floor, Drew Holiday. Question the
Speaker 1: things I mean you play Drew. He hasn't been my teammates,
Speaker 1: so I know from experience on one note, but the
Speaker 1: things that this guy does on the court go unnoticed.
Speaker 1: Like obviously we have a defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart. But that's cool. But for me, it's like
Speaker 1: levels and once you play these guys on a personal level,
Speaker 1: you know, like man, I got Drew Holiday in front
Speaker 1: of me today, or I got you know, a certain guy.
Speaker 1: Drew Holiday is that type of guy where it may
Speaker 1: not show up on the stas sheet, it may not
Speaker 1: show up in the highlights, but you know you had
Speaker 1: a long light in front of So if you if
Speaker 1: you okay, Marcus murders on me versus Drew Holiday is
Speaker 1: on me. Drew Holiday is the one that worries you
Speaker 1: attacking and I'm not. And that's not taking any shots
Speaker 1: at Marcus smokes the league Smarts. You're kind of guy.
Speaker 1: So I know that you're not taking any shots at him.
Speaker 1: He's just not Drew Holiday on the defensive. I mean,
Speaker 1: I respect Drew, no doubt about it. I played against
Speaker 1: Drew and and you know, I just like his mcgame
Speaker 1: is mature. Even at this stage his career is still making.
Speaker 1: He makes the All Star Game, and the third best
Speaker 1: player is Jalen Brown. I mean he's younger, athletic, he's
Speaker 1: entering his prime. Uh No, he's not a champion like Drew,
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been in those moments. So I get
Speaker 1: why you know, Boogie has say that because of the
Speaker 1: moments that Drew has been in in the competition, and
Speaker 1: he has a respect around the league. I know that Drew. Everybody,
Speaker 1: every guard say, you know, from guys like Chris Paul,
Speaker 1: Damon Litterard, they all respect Drew. But I'm going with
Speaker 1: the younger up and coming All Star Jayden Brown. So
Speaker 1: that's a that's an advantage right there. They got the
Speaker 1: third best player on the court when they match up,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, he thinks that they had. Bookie thinks
Speaker 1: that the Bucks have the first and third best player
Speaker 1: in the court. You're saying that the second the Celtics.
Speaker 1: I think they have the first and fourth, which makes
Speaker 1: this a great match up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All Right, so you I'm sure, I'm sure, Book you
Speaker 1: put Jalen Brown right after Drew, Right, Okay, So now
Speaker 1: let's go to the other guys on the court. You've
Speaker 1: got Al Horford, Robert Williams for the Celtics, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: for the Bucks. I'm waiting to see you. All right,
Speaker 1: So look all right, look, so when you talk about
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez Black Robert Williams, Yeah, Brook Lopez, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: is the better player, but Robert Williams can defend him.
Speaker 1: Like is he a better offensive player? Yeah, but Robert
Speaker 1: Williams can defend him. You know who, that guy, Horford
Speaker 1: can defend him. You know, brook Brook is nice, you
Speaker 1: know who I know is nice. But they got defenders
Speaker 1: for him, like he's not gonna dominate. I was going
Speaker 1: to say that they got they got our Horford the defender,
Speaker 1: Robert Williams the shop blocker. They got both. See what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's for sure, shopping. Yeah, our Horford is
Speaker 1: a defender. I don't know it's our Horford going Brook
Speaker 1: lopezers Horford going nice. They gonna you know how they
Speaker 1: mix it up. Yeah, it's not a mixed up. That
Speaker 1: mixed can change. Cain't nobody really guard dude, but you
Speaker 1: can't trust it. But Harford gonna give more physicality. Henna,
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna just run through him. And then when
Speaker 1: he go by our Harford go through him. He gonna
Speaker 1: go through and then and then Robert gonna be there
Speaker 1: to beat that up. No, because brook Lopez is out
Speaker 1: there spreading the floor shooting forty from the from the
Speaker 1: that's where it gets tricky. Yeah, that's where then we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to go with Grant Williams. Then we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go yo, yo. That's not gonna work against
Speaker 1: jan and Bok can't nobody, can't nobody guard yall that.
Speaker 1: So let's just say, let's just say nobody guard Yanna.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give him his thirty five. Okay, we can't
Speaker 1: let him get eighteen. No, he will give you twenty. Now,
Speaker 1: we can't let that out the season. The season, Brook
Speaker 1: Lopez set, let's go, look, where is Chris Middleton in
Speaker 1: this discussion? By we haven't got there yet. Really, you
Speaker 1: think that all the guys you've talked about. Chris Middleton
Speaker 1: is underneath on the list of best players on the floor,
Speaker 1: the fifth best player. And the reason I'm saying I
Speaker 1: can say that confidently in the reason why it's, you know,
Speaker 1: Chris Bottle some energies. Yeah, he's gonna be a very
Speaker 1: very important piece once the playffs twenty plus games to
Speaker 1: get his rhythm. Yeah, once that that puzzles. An equation
Speaker 1: changes one. I'm leaning towards Milwaukee, taking this out of
Speaker 1: the e. But this the thing grays and nowan. Now
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do with him? How you gonna have
Speaker 1: gonna do his job? How you gonna hide him? Hire him, hide?
Speaker 1: Played with grace. You're gonna hide him? You don't what
Speaker 1: you don't You're gonna have to hide? You gonna do it?
Speaker 1: Who're gonna guard? Who he guard? Marcus Smart? All right,
Speaker 1: pick and roll a Farcus comes at this pick I
Speaker 1: got tay, Okay, switch you know how that side of
Speaker 1: that game worked. Man, he's a lot. Were waiting for
Speaker 1: the size. They're gonna be a lot. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a liability. They're gonna have to find somebody who can
Speaker 1: these athletic six seven wins out here, he gonna he
Speaker 1: gonna be a liability and the show when they when
Speaker 1: they played last year with the game seven, he caught
Speaker 1: some of that forty piece that Tatum game. All right,
Speaker 1: So if we get that again, no disrespect to Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: but if we get in Eastern Conference finals, Buck Celtics,
Speaker 1: who wins? I think whoever go no, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: who wins? Paul Pierce? I mean, I think, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is this is this is styles make fights. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yes, whoever got the home court
Speaker 1: advantage is gonna win. You really think that that's that deal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's huge, that's agree. That is huge series. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you think the Bucks. I think the Bucks are taking
Speaker 1: I think we got our swag versus them last year.
Speaker 1: I think it was a doubt before that year because
Speaker 1: they put them out the playoffs. That gave you that
Speaker 1: confidence though, like you know when you walk in the
Speaker 1: gym like we know we can you know you know
Speaker 1: you know like when you when you match matter, it's
Speaker 1: the same players. Man, think about this, when you when
Speaker 1: you played and you knew who was guarding, you knew
Speaker 1: you gave him buckets, right, I don't think they got
Speaker 1: better from last year? Who subings? I mean the numbers
Speaker 1: are better, what Malcolm broad Yeah? Personnel wise, they are
Speaker 1: big benches. The benches improved as well. With your two
Speaker 1: star guys, have they gotten better? Yeah, Jason TAM's averaging
Speaker 1: thirty Yeah, the number their numbers have gone. Have they
Speaker 1: gotten better with making people around them? That which has
Speaker 1: always been the problem? Yeah, guys, gonna be you're talking
Speaker 1: about you're talking about it, but who you want? What
Speaker 1: you want? Two star players better from last year with
Speaker 1: getting others involved in making them better. It's not about
Speaker 1: making them better. The team is better because they got
Speaker 1: the best record the league, regular season, in playoffs. Two
Speaker 1: different stories. All right, Well, what I like about this
Speaker 1: argument is that we're going to get to see I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see the regular season. We're going to
Speaker 1: get to Milwaukee. We got a bet. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So what's the Milwaukee Celtics bet? What do you got dinner?
Speaker 1: All right? So the three of us are going to
Speaker 1: dinner and one of you is paying. Do you see?
Speaker 1: How do you see how I did that? That was
Speaker 1: fantastic And that's a vet move right there. I get
Speaker 1: your take on Dallas as well, you guys, because the
Speaker 1: Mavericks choked away that twenty seven point lead a few
Speaker 1: days ago. Look, sometimes teams have bad nights, right, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be talking about this days later except head coach
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, and I want to quote him exactly. This
Speaker 1: is how he put it. He said, there's a deeper issue.
Speaker 1: The team needs to grow up, was his quote. He
Speaker 1: also noted that players are too busy arguing calls sometimes
Speaker 1: while they're running back up the floor that you see
Speaker 1: the shoulder slump when they don't think that they got
Speaker 1: the right call, that kind of thing. Luca, of course,
Speaker 1: has been criticized for this in the past. Luca was
Speaker 1: asked about it after the game about what Jason said.
Speaker 1: Luca said, well, I don't disagree with him, and I
Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to eventually end up with Kyrie,
Speaker 1: But right now, Luca and Kyrie together when they player
Speaker 1: one in three. So that's sort of the Dallas situation. Paul,
Speaker 1: if you heard your coach in public say this team
Speaker 1: needs to grow up, you're a leader in your locker room,
Speaker 1: what would your reaction have been. I mean, obviously that's
Speaker 1: a shot at Luca. I mean, but he knows that
Speaker 1: he's told this to Luca, because you don't, Luca got
Speaker 1: to understand that as a leader of the team, that's
Speaker 1: gonna filter down to the other players, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And so he doing it all the time.
Speaker 1: Other players feel like they and do it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think as far as the team goes, I think
Speaker 1: they just need more time together to figure out the chemistry.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not really worried about that earlier. You
Speaker 1: I mean, of course you say Kyrie and Luka, You're like,
Speaker 1: oh damn that that's gonna be lit. But their defense
Speaker 1: is what they need to figure They can just turn
Speaker 1: the defense around. They got to figure out how out
Speaker 1: of score people. That's just where they gotta be. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: but if you if you're a Luca and you have
Speaker 1: been in that position on a team, and you hear that,
Speaker 1: because you're right, Jason Kidd by the way he's been
Speaker 1: around the way he does not say that publicly, if
Speaker 1: he has not said it privately, a bunch, right, You
Speaker 1: hear that publicly, you get angry, Do you get hurt?
Speaker 1: Do you get determined? Do you get what? Do you get?
Speaker 1: You respected it's coming from Jay Kidd Championship guard. Always
Speaker 1: you respect, and what about arguing with the officials? Mister
Speaker 1: demarcan gonna get into that territory. I mean you've obviously, look,
Speaker 1: I covered you your whole career. You have had all
Speaker 1: kinds of there's different kinds of run ins you've had
Speaker 1: with referees, but this specific way of where you feel
Speaker 1: you are not on the court getting the calls. And
Speaker 1: I've seen you You've done some of that sometimes with
Speaker 1: your shoulders slump and you're just you know, you're still
Speaker 1: arguing as you go up the court. So what advice
Speaker 1: do you have for Luca if you feel like because
Speaker 1: Luca legit I've talked to Luca about this, He legit
Speaker 1: feels he is not getting the calls he should get
Speaker 1: and I can, I can relate. And with that being said,
Speaker 1: it's it's just really got to get to a point
Speaker 1: where you eventually just get over because it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's gonna every game they're gonna miss called right. And
Speaker 1: as a player, I know how it is on both
Speaker 1: sides because it's like a ship is frustrating the tail.
Speaker 1: I was having this conversation earlier. It's where it's like
Speaker 1: somebody is telling you to let somebody punch in the
Speaker 1: face ten times and you should just ignore it. Is
Speaker 1: that what it feels like? It does like that, just
Speaker 1: ignore it? Right? Well, this is happening every day, right
Speaker 1: at what point am I? You know? So? But that
Speaker 1: being said, finding a way to get over it and
Speaker 1: keeping the main going a mind, which is winning the game.
Speaker 1: And the only way you can win the game is
Speaker 1: when you're best player. It's locked. But I will say this,
Speaker 1: it becomes an issue when you lose. When you're winning,
Speaker 1: nobody is talking about that, right you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: fact like that's but it contributes to losing. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: like I mean, you know I see Lebron always at
Speaker 1: the refs. Yeah, you know, he's a winner, So nobody
Speaker 1: really say nothing about Len doing that a lot. So
Speaker 1: you know, when you in a position where you have
Speaker 1: a one yet or you're you're losing games, then it
Speaker 1: gets magnified. We all know that, right Well, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: they're still gonna be one of the most interesting teams
Speaker 1: to watch down the stretch. I don't think Dallas is
Speaker 1: a finished product like the like think think I think
Speaker 1: they found the two core guys in Luke and Kyle
Speaker 1: and that this and for the next two years they're
Speaker 1: going to be trying to build a championship contender. Right,
Speaker 1: This isn't a finished product. This is the discussion we're
Speaker 1: going to have in a couple of months is can
Speaker 1: they keep Kyrie Irving? But that's a discussion for another day,
Speaker 1: my friend. That's why you subscribe to the Watts Burning podcast.
Speaker 1: It's like Lakers, you know, I'm thinking Phoenix, let's go
Speaker 1: back to the East because they do want to hit
Speaker 1: the Hawks. Nate McMillan has moved on. They have moved
Speaker 1: on from Nate McMillan, and they have hired Quinn Snyder. Quinn,
Speaker 1: as we know, let the Jazz six straight playoff appearances,
Speaker 1: Atlanta's thirty one and thirty. They sit at eighth in
Speaker 1: the East. If you're Quinn Snyder and you're coming in,
Speaker 1: is there anything in particular that you think, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna change this and this will help us at least
Speaker 1: somewhat this year. Well, I mean, Quinn has got to
Speaker 1: adapt to his stars, Okay, you know, like that's how
Speaker 1: the league is. I saw it was always gonna be
Speaker 1: you gotta coach predicated on how your stars play. So
Speaker 1: it's okay, we're gonna get the ball to Jonathan Murray
Speaker 1: and Trey Young and let him go. Right now, it's
Speaker 1: too late in the season to put a whole new system.
Speaker 1: You're gonna put some wrinkles and things, yeah, and stuff,
Speaker 1: and maybe some things you can do defensively. But sometimes
Speaker 1: a new coach, you know, to write was on the
Speaker 1: wall up for late McMillan, because when Trey Young, when
Speaker 1: your star player is like sitting down, he quitting all
Speaker 1: you and doing all this stuff, sometimes that new coach
Speaker 1: bring a breath of fresh air and they look like
Speaker 1: a better team actually, as I've seen the last couple
Speaker 1: of games, and so sometimes that helps, and I think
Speaker 1: they will be better. I think quinnill come in and
Speaker 1: you know, pig it back off with Paul said, obviously
Speaker 1: this year it is what it is. They'll finish out
Speaker 1: however they finish out. But I do feel like it
Speaker 1: would be a system put in place, a system that
Speaker 1: that's positive for everybody involved the whole start in five,
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for them and what kind
Speaker 1: of changed for them being a good and bad team is.
Speaker 1: I felt like they kind of lost the big fella
Speaker 1: in John Collins. He's been in trade rumors every year.
Speaker 1: We as players know what that's like. It can it
Speaker 1: can bother you confidence, it can it can bother your rhythm,
Speaker 1: it can put you in the fund. And me personally,
Speaker 1: I am a fan of a big fella. I think
Speaker 1: he's very talent, and I think he's an important piece
Speaker 1: to them, you know, getting over that hunt to becoming
Speaker 1: becoming that winning team. So I think Quinna do a
Speaker 1: good job with, you know, finding the place for him
Speaker 1: within that offense because obviously you're two heads of a
Speaker 1: snake or Trey Young and John Murray, so fixing that corps.
Speaker 1: I think they're being the right path. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a lot, I think left to leak out from Atlanta.
Speaker 1: There's a story someone's gonna tell in a year or
Speaker 1: two about everything that went on in that locker room
Speaker 1: over the last year or so. Nick mc millan super
Speaker 1: respected coach around the league. But what is it like
Speaker 1: when you don't get along with the coach or there's
Speaker 1: more getting behind the scenes than people know. Man, this
Speaker 1: is a players league, right, you got It's a new
Speaker 1: age it's a new day. These new stars, they ain't playing.
Speaker 1: If you ain't getting along with your star player, you
Speaker 1: out of there, Because I mean, who's selling the tickets
Speaker 1: ain't the coach. Who's selling the jersey, who're making the
Speaker 1: All Star games, It ain't the coach. And so that's
Speaker 1: the most important thing, having that relationship with your star players.
Speaker 1: And when that's when I started crump, and I've seen
Speaker 1: it over so many years of being in the league,
Speaker 1: And when you don't get that relationship with your star players,
Speaker 1: then you might as well put one foot out the
Speaker 1: door because it's coming, that access coming, and you know,
Speaker 1: whatever whatever was going on between them. Shoot, once I
Speaker 1: saw that writing on the wall when he didn't step
Speaker 1: out there in that game, when that practice, I was
Speaker 1: like so over for him. Yeah, he didn't come. Trade
Speaker 1: did not come to the introductory press conference. R quinn Snyder.
Speaker 1: I don't know. At some point are we reading too
Speaker 1: much into too much? I mean he might have, you know,
Speaker 1: been taking care of his kids or something. I adam
Speaker 1: no idea, so they don't have to come to that.
Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll see um all right here in La
Speaker 1: closer to home. Just when things look like they were
Speaker 1: getting better for the Los Angeles Lakers. Oh, Man, Lebron
Speaker 1: is out indefinitely with a foot injury. And look, I
Speaker 1: know Lebron's injury was a heartbreak moment for a lot
Speaker 1: of Lakers fans. But the man is thirty eight years old,
Speaker 1: and while he is clearly still near the top of
Speaker 1: his game setting record, thirty eight year olds are not
Speaker 1: as durable as twenty eight year olds. And I want
Speaker 1: to throw you guys some numbers. Over Lebron's first fifteen seasons,
Speaker 1: he missed seventy one games total. In the last five
Speaker 1: seasons with the Lakers, he's missed ninety eight games and counting,
Speaker 1: of course, because we got these games coming up. So, Boggie,
Speaker 1: you're only thirty two, but you've dealt with a lot
Speaker 1: of injury issues. Paul, you're very old and you retired
Speaker 1: when you were thirty nine, so you went through this
Speaker 1: a little bit of what Lebron is going out. What
Speaker 1: is it like for both of you guys when you
Speaker 1: are used to your body being durable and that it's
Speaker 1: not anymore. Man, it's a reality check. Yeah, sure, because
Speaker 1: you know you can go through consistently for years and
Speaker 1: kind of developed his mindset that you you know you're
Speaker 1: invincible until you experienced that at first. Heartbreaking is like
Speaker 1: I said, the reality kicks in. But that's still separate
Speaker 1: from the guy we're talking about, Like he he's the
Speaker 1: prime example of longevity. Yeah, and I mean with all greatness,
Speaker 1: you know, it comes to an end eventually. And you know,
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but this guy is thirty eight.
Speaker 1: He's been around the league for twenty years, and you
Speaker 1: know his end is coming in. So this is just
Speaker 1: a product of you know, his end and come. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough that I remember at thirty eight,
Speaker 1: it was just tough for me getting off the bed.
Speaker 1: I used to have to put shoes on just to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. What does it mean, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm clearly missing something. What does that mean you have
Speaker 1: to put shoes on the PLANTI fasciitis. Tell me they
Speaker 1: were at least slides, real tennis shoe serious air force
Speaker 1: ones right there next to the bed. Are you serious?
Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. It was a couple of years I
Speaker 1: had to put right next to the bed just to gout,
Speaker 1: just to walk ten steps to the bathroom barefoot. It's
Speaker 1: the same way for me with achilles can walk sneakers
Speaker 1: in the house. Yeah, I couldn't walk floors with my
Speaker 1: feet were too sensitive for the floors. Yeah. See these
Speaker 1: things I didn't know because I am five foot four,
Speaker 1: and we'll never have these problems. M No. I mean
Speaker 1: the reason why I'm asking a little bit about this
Speaker 1: is that we have this image. To your point, we
Speaker 1: have this image about Lebron is sort of just kind
Speaker 1: of undestructible, right, I mean he even has ad campaigns
Speaker 1: where it's like Lebron versus Father Time and Lebron wins
Speaker 1: like all that stuff. I think you have to be realistic,
Speaker 1: like here's a little here's a fancy graphic that Nate Bronson,
Speaker 1: our producer, like, you have to be realistic about where
Speaker 1: how many games Lebron can play a season now, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it is what it is. I
Speaker 1: think too, this is the time where they like, look,
Speaker 1: Lebron wants to play for championships. Yes, and he pushed himself.
Speaker 1: He played through this injury that we've been hearing about. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, all the way through and he's at the
Speaker 1: point he passed the Korean record. I know that was
Speaker 1: an important thing for him. So he pushed through those injuries,
Speaker 1: and it's like at the point in the season to
Speaker 1: where he like, you know what, I'm not good with
Speaker 1: just fighting just to make the play in game or
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You know, I'm not gonna put my body
Speaker 1: through this because he's looking down the road now. So
Speaker 1: let's just say he played through it and they make
Speaker 1: the play and he's not playing for that. So he's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna get my body all the
Speaker 1: way hill. There's no need for me to push through
Speaker 1: this just to make the play in. We're not a
Speaker 1: championship team. I see. I'm gonna disagree with you. I
Speaker 1: think he thinks if they can get into the play
Speaker 1: in and he's playing, he thinks they can beat anyone
Speaker 1: that is. I mean, I've heard him say it. I
Speaker 1: mean you you worked out for that team recently. Do
Speaker 1: you think, Boogie, that the Lakers have the grit to
Speaker 1: first of all, keep maintaining without him and then whenever
Speaker 1: he does come back, if they get't get into the
Speaker 1: play in gat do they have the grit without Lebron?
Speaker 1: I don't think no. I don't think so. I think
Speaker 1: he's the engine to that team, which is crazy to
Speaker 1: say because he's literally the holdest gun team. But do
Speaker 1: they have the grid? I don't think they do. We
Speaker 1: saw Anthony have a step up earlier in the season
Speaker 1: on Lebron speaking about town. I know your words. Great,
Speaker 1: it was grit. Isn't something that I see from that
Speaker 1: Laker team? All right? Well another about Lebron? All right,
Speaker 1: well it's another topic we'll shell for a future What's
Speaker 1: Burning episode is if they don't make the playoffs. To
Speaker 1: your point about he's playing for championships, just this effects
Speaker 1: Lebron in LA. We'll talk about that down the road too.
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Speaker 1: UM Pacific Division. Let's talk about them because hottest in
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Speaker 1: odds and which one of those teams is going to
Speaker 1: end up with the best record. Right now, the Kings
Speaker 1: have a three game lead over the Suns. But of
Speaker 1: course Phoenix is just adding KD guys. So right now
Speaker 1: draft Kings has the Sun is the favorite to win
Speaker 1: the division and the King's next. I'm going with a
Speaker 1: sack they for real. I'm telling a young kid, Fox,
Speaker 1: it's a bonus. They ain't playing if you're going to
Speaker 1: cycle on the back to back them young boys. By Jim,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I like to see. At first, you know,
Speaker 1: it took a while, but night, I'm I'm convinced that,
Speaker 1: like Sacramento is a tough team and they they've been
Speaker 1: showing it consistently all year, and Mike Brown has really
Speaker 1: done a great job, tremendous job. What do you think
Speaker 1: of your old team? Uh, I think they're super talented. UM,
Speaker 1: young team, full of energy, full of excitement. You can
Speaker 1: tell they enjoy playing with one another. You can tell
Speaker 1: they have fun. UM. As far as them being topping
Speaker 1: the division, I could see that happening because it is
Speaker 1: regular season. UM, basically a regular season. The way you
Speaker 1: win regular season is consistency and playing hard. Right, whatever
Speaker 1: team does that, they're going to be the top of
Speaker 1: it the conference. But um, in health obviously, but those
Speaker 1: three things they've done all year and I think they'll
Speaker 1: continue to do that. So I could see the King's
Speaker 1: coming out on the top of that division. You were
Speaker 1: attached to Sacramento, I mean I remember you. I mean
Speaker 1: you literally bled for that city. You bled for that team,
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes when guys move on, especially if
Speaker 1: there's any controversy, that people forget that a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, you played your heart out for those fans.
Speaker 1: So to see that team now doing well, to see
Speaker 1: the light, the beam and the excitement and all of that,
Speaker 1: how does they feel for you? It's dope. I'm just
Speaker 1: happy for the city and the fans because they really
Speaker 1: deserve it. Like that's that's an incredible fan base. They
Speaker 1: literally they're the definition of like sticking through it with
Speaker 1: through thick and thins. Yeah, um, Cowboys, Coyle Bill's ringing
Speaker 1: with you know, ten wins in the seasons. Yeah, incredible
Speaker 1: fan base. They're more than deserving. Um. So I'm excited
Speaker 1: for him. I'm excited to see where this team goes
Speaker 1: as well. Be interesting. Obviously, I'm a Fox fam you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: Monk too, that was my UK brothers. Yeah, do that,
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I mean, I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people think, oh, well, you know, look in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: we don't know. You got to be battle tested, and
Speaker 1: sometimes the team has to go first round loss to learn.
Speaker 1: But I still think that they could be dangerous in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Released around. No, we'll see how thin the
Speaker 1: benches shake it. Deppens, Oh yes, yes, and we've got
Speaker 1: teams at the bottom of the West bracket who could
Speaker 1: potentially turn it on for the playoffs in a way
Speaker 1: that we have not seen in a long time. So
Speaker 1: we will see. If they get Dallas, they're pop Dallas.
Speaker 1: They end up with like Golden State. I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 1: they'll pop Dallas. Yeah, Sack will yeah in his face?
Speaker 1: Can we show his famdon Luca? Nobody? So who's playing
Speaker 1: defensive side? I know one thing, Dallas is not playing Lodi.
Speaker 1: I'm not and and and and sat can't out sport Dallas.
Speaker 1: Yeah they can't. They were gonna see we don't get
Speaker 1: back to Sacramento. Just played the second most a game
Speaker 1: where the second most points in NBA playoffs. I mean,
Speaker 1: somebody score will send me the playoffs. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: you think has had the best moment highlight of the season,
Speaker 1: just just like the one moment that stands out that's easy.
Speaker 1: I mean Lebron moment. I mean he passed the score.
Speaker 1: I mean that's like, hands down, like nobody thought that
Speaker 1: record would go. And I don't think nobody's ever gonna
Speaker 1: pass Broun because he gonna push he gonna push that
Speaker 1: out to about forty thousand. So you gotta be think
Speaker 1: about this. Lebron's in his twentieth season, he averaging so
Speaker 1: you gotta average twenty eight for twenty seasons. So Luca
Speaker 1: right now, if you compare Luca how long Lucas played
Speaker 1: so far with that same number of seasons into Lebron's career,
Speaker 1: Luca could break it, but Luca would have to play
Speaker 1: as long as Lebron he does without the health issues. Yeah, twinning,
Speaker 1: but his athletics and Broun is one of the great athletes.
Speaker 1: So when Luca think about Luke only like what twenty four,
Speaker 1: he not that athletics. So when he gets about be
Speaker 1: like thirty, he's gonna be slower than he is. Now.
Speaker 1: When you say Luca is not athletic, it's not as
Speaker 1: athletic person. He's athletic, but he's not the athlete Bron
Speaker 1: is to maintain this for the next year, he is
Speaker 1: not the athlete. He's not gonna have to. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have a long prime. Let's say Luca prime last fourteen years,
Speaker 1: not even not even Yeah, Ron is still prime. Discipline, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the work ethic. Yeah. I don't see that. It's
Speaker 1: more to it than just scoring basket. Yeah. He gonna
Speaker 1: have to get on hes gonna have to get off
Speaker 1: that Hookah he get we talking about. I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: his health plan earlier this season when he scored all
Speaker 1: those points and then he said he needed a recovery. Beer,
Speaker 1: I could relate to the finally a moment Luca don
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Speaker 1: is your top moments? You agree that was? I agree
Speaker 1: with Lebron. That's that's a stone we'll probably never see
Speaker 1: anytime soon. So yeah, that's definitely the highlight of the year.
Speaker 1: I can say I was in the building and just
Speaker 1: that every basket he made, the energy just went up
Speaker 1: and up and up, and it felt like it was
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Speaker 1: Victor is going to be the top pick in the
Speaker 1: second coming upcoming draft. Your bar and I don't know,
Speaker 1: in earthquake, avalanche something, Um, we're definitely gonna sense right
Speaker 1: now who's going to have the best chances to draft
Speaker 1: him right the season's coming to a close. So we
Speaker 1: got the Spurs guys, and this is historic and the
Speaker 1: Greg Popovich era, Greg Papovitch has never had a team
Speaker 1: that's lost eight in a row. As we sit here today,
Speaker 1: San Antonio has lost sixteen in a row. That's not
Speaker 1: from that's coming from upstairs. That is that women Yamba
Speaker 1: watch exactly. Well, look, this is the team David Robinson
Speaker 1: got hurt, right, they had a not good season, and
Speaker 1: you know what happened the last next year is they
Speaker 1: drafted Tim Duggans. So this is they've they've done this before. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't have quite have that David Robinson to come
Speaker 1: back to Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If I sure hope you don't go to Houston. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, so, where would you like to see
Speaker 1: him go? Because you've also got let's see him go
Speaker 1: to Charlotte's. That's gonna say so. Charlotte is an amount
Speaker 1: in a position where you've got LaMelo Ball fracturing his
Speaker 1: right ankle. He is out for the rest of the
Speaker 1: season right now. They have that right, But right now
Speaker 1: Charlotte has the fourth worst record in the league. But
Speaker 1: you got to think that make drop a little over
Speaker 1: the last twenty five games, so they'll be in that
Speaker 1: that group that could have really good lottery odds. I
Speaker 1: don't know. You've got Charlotte Detroit, San Antonio, Houston. Where
Speaker 1: would you like to see Victor Um, we're from a fansample, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the game. I would love to see him with Charlotte.
Speaker 1: You know, ball with Anollo. I think that that that
Speaker 1: combo would be very entertaining. But if I'm the young
Speaker 1: kid and I'm thinking about myself in this situation, I
Speaker 1: see the Spurs as far as maximizing the potential and
Speaker 1: getting the best out of the situation, I would say
Speaker 1: San Antonio because of the team or because you're playing
Speaker 1: cold culture, Uh, the track record. Like if I'm a
Speaker 1: player coming in and you know, that's one thing a
Speaker 1: lot of young guys, and you know, just fans in general,
Speaker 1: they don't understand the importance of the organization coming in.
Speaker 1: It can make a break your career. Yeah. So with
Speaker 1: that being said, Um, from a you know, personal standpoint,
Speaker 1: I would want to see him with the Spurs. What
Speaker 1: do you think about the idea that he'd be better
Speaker 1: off what he's saying, um, But on the flip side,
Speaker 1: you know how much longer is Pop gonna be there?
Speaker 1: Is that gonna expand extend pops coaching because they get
Speaker 1: victory stay a sense that you know, Pop maybe running
Speaker 1: to step into a different role or just retire. He's
Speaker 1: been around a long time and I see him step
Speaker 1: in the row. Yeah, maybe go upstairs like like Brass
Speaker 1: Stevens or something, or just completely He's He's got a
Speaker 1: lot of basketball in them, man. You know it's being
Speaker 1: good hands though when I'm in front office, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but uh where he gonna get the most development and
Speaker 1: the most excitement, It's gonna be sharp for development. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't excitement for well. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna let him go a little more like lit him
Speaker 1: make the mistakes. That's true, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I think when you in San Antonio, Pop, it's
Speaker 1: just you gotta be just like strictly winning. It's just
Speaker 1: like you gotta be a certain way tim here. They're
Speaker 1: gonna let you, you know, do that, you know, develop
Speaker 1: over there and play through it. You know. And if
Speaker 1: he does go to Houston, whist got too many gunners
Speaker 1: over there no discipline over there. I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: go there if I'm him. I think that are just
Speaker 1: being circulating. Yeah, especially and if they look at this
Speaker 1: they say they bring you, they get when bing Yama
Speaker 1: and then say James Harden come over there. I just
Speaker 1: don't like the influences around that kid. If he go there,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd rather have him around m Jack that
Speaker 1: type of influence. What about Detroit, I mean, man with
Speaker 1: the young kid Kenning in. Yeah, they got they got,
Speaker 1: they got, they need them. They gotta inflex the guards.
Speaker 1: This this is a problem, like when you go to
Speaker 1: a team with so many guys trying to prove themselves
Speaker 1: and they don't understand, like he's the future, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And they're gonna understand that in Charlotte,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be all right. Look, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: him and ball. This is who we're gonna play. Over there.
Speaker 1: They all going for contract still and it's all them guards.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be handled, they're gonna be freezing him out.
Speaker 1: Same but in Houston, agree right? What's Vernon available every
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