1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spafford, joined by the 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: one and only Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: from our studios at Lambeaufield to preview Sunday Night Football West. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: It'll be the Packers and the Vikings in primetime at 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis. Obviously the second meeting between 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: the Packers and Vikings this year. And when you look 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: at this Minnesota Viking season, it's really strange how it 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: breaks down because I know they've changed quarterbacks multiple times 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: and they may be making another change at that spot 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: this week, which we can talk about. But the Vikings 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: started the season zero to three, correct, then they won 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: six out of seven games, with the only loss in 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: that stretch coming to the Kansas City Chiefs. But now 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: since then they have lost four out of five games, 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: with the only win in this most recent stretch coming 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: by a score of three to zero against the Las 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, one of the oddest games of the twenty 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: twenty three season across the board. So they've lost four 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: out of five, including two in a row. Their playoff 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: hopes are just as much on the line as the 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Packers are, and this is a team that's still trying 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: to figure out exactly what they want to do at 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: quarterback to try to get themselves into the postseason. 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: There's a lot going on there right now Minnesota, and 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: first and foremost the big part of this and I 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: wrote about it, and you talked a lot about how 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: this matchup is gonna be different from the first time, 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: but just the way that this season has turned for Minnesota. 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: After that game at lambeau. 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: Field, there was a lot of people I remember covering 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 2: that game afterwards it was almost like that both teams 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: had lost when you went into the locker rooms afterwards, 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: because Minnesota thought whatever hopes they had and maybe building 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: upon what they did the previous year in a thirteen 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: win season under Kevin O'Connell could probably be thrown down 37 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: the toilet with losing Kirk Cousins for the remainder of 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: the season. Josh Dobbs sprinkled a little bit of you know, 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: magic fairy dust on them for a minute, he did. 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: Then he came back down to earth. Nick Mullins, who 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: was the one that was originally kind of signed to 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: be the backup to Kirk Cousins. Well, then he has 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: a four interception game against Detroit. Jaren Hall, the fifth 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: round pick that originally was going to be the backup 45 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: and the replacement for Cousins when Mullins was still on 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: IR he got a concussion, only placed ten snaps. 47 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: So it's just been this. 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: Whirling dervish right now in that state, trying to figure 49 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: out what their you know, focal point of their offense 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: is going to be. But it's funny. It's not just 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: that though, right. I mean, they've had questions in the 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: backfield in terms of who their lead back is. 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: TJ. 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: Howkinson tears his ACL justin Jefferson misses the middles part 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: of the season with the hamstring injury. There's just been 56 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: all these different things that have kind of crept up 57 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: on Minnesota and ultimately here they are, And in a 58 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: lot of ways, I think it's poetic Week seven, just 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: like last year in Week seventeen, the greemd Packers trying 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: to keep their playoff hopes alive, except this time Minnesota 61 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: sitting in the exact same seat. 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly last year at this time, the Packers were, 63 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: as you say, fighting to stay in the playoff chase 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: in Minnesota was you know, had already clinched the NFC 65 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: North title at that point and they were looking ahead 66 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: to what they were going to do in the postseason. Yeah, 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot of changes. The loss of TJ. Hockinson is 68 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: a big one for this Minnesota offense because with Justin 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Jefferson missing nine games with a very troublesome hamstring injury, 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: Hawkinson had been the leading pass catcher both receptions and 71 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: yards for this Minnesota offense. He now goes down. Jefferson 72 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: has been back in the lineup for the last three weeks, 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: with his production steadily climbing to where in the lost 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: to the Lions last week, he had six catches for 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: I believe it was one hundred and forty one yards. 76 00:03:54,120 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: Big game, had a touchdown there. So that's a that's 77 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: a big weapon for Minnesota to get back, and it 78 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: seems like Justin Jefferson is sort of back to his 79 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: old self. And then you have Jordan Addison who is 80 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: on the injury report. They're saying he's day to day 81 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: with an ankle injury. He had a big game against 82 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: the Packers back in week eight in late October at 83 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Lambo and then kJ Osborne, who's sort of been this 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, steady guy who produces when they need him to, 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: and he's he's always there and he had one of 86 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: his better games against the Packers back when Jefferson was 87 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: not playing a couple of months ago. So obviously on 88 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: the defensive side for the Packers. The matchup, the matchup 89 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: here is going to be interesting just how the Packers 90 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: play this out because jay r Alexander has been suspended 91 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: by the team for one game, so he will not 92 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: be matched up with with Justin Jefferson as as he 93 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: has the last couple of times these two teams have 94 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: met up. And Darnell Savage might be coming back at safety. 95 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: He's back at practice now after missing some time. And 96 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: you've got you know, Carrington Valentine, Corey Ballentine, Keishawn Nixon 97 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: is there as the nickel. Not quite sure how the 98 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: Packers are going to are going to match up against 99 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: this Minnesota offense, but we may not know until later 100 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: today or Friday exactly who's going to be quarterbacking for 101 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: Minnesota with all all of this going on. 102 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's one of those things too where publicly 103 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: that is what the Vikings are saying privately, obviously you're 104 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: building a plan around somebody. To me, again, if I 105 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: was a betting man, and as you said on yesterday's show, 106 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: there is no gambling in Bushwood, sir, But I would 107 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: think Hall gets the call because he is the one 108 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: guy that is under contract for next year for Minnesota. 109 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: They did invest the draft pick into him, and he 110 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: was the guy they were going to turn to in 111 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: the first place when Cousins went down. 112 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: Right, and they did. 113 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: He started the game at Atlanta, but then, as you said, 114 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: he got a concussion early on in that game. That 115 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: turned things over to Josh Dobbs, who would literally been 116 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: signed just days before that, hardly knew any of the playbook, 117 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: and suddenly there was this magic going on with Josh 118 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Dobbs that helped the Vikings get to seven wins, which 119 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: is which is where they are right now. 120 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: But this is where it gets tricky for them because 121 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: you look at that game against Detroit and you had 122 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: Nick Mullins throw for over four hundred yards. They had 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: no running game whatsoever. I think Chandler might have been 124 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: their leading rusher with like twenty one yards or seventeen 125 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: yards something like that. 126 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he only carried the ball like eight times. Then 127 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: they turned over. Sorry to interrupt, but they had turned 128 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: over their running game to Chandler from Alexander Madison, and 129 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: Chandler had had like one hundred and thirty some yards 130 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: in the overtime loss to the Bengals the previous week. Then, 131 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: but suddenly the running game disappears and it's all on Mullins. 132 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: He throws for four hundred plus yards but throws four 133 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: picks and Kevin O'Connell's thinking about changing quarterbacks. 134 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the way that Minnesota built this thing out 135 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: this year, I mean, it wasn't necessarily surprised that that's 136 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: the way they were trying to construct the offense. Because 137 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: you know, Josh Oliver gets signed, he's considered one of 138 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: the top blocking tight ends of the National Football League. 139 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: You want to be able to establish yourself in that 140 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: way to compliment what you're getting from Justin Jefferson and 141 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: obviously the huge investment with Addison. You want to be 142 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: able to play it both ways. And you see why 143 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: it's necessary in a game against Detroit where Vikings lose 144 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: that game by six points, but they throw for that 145 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: many yards all because of the turnover differential margins. So 146 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: that's why Green Bay it's going to be very interesting 147 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: to see how they match up with them defensively losing 148 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: Jire Alexander. There's no circumstance that you can explain to 149 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: me a scenario in which the Packers are better on 150 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: the field with Jiry Alexander not there. 151 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 3: But things happen behind the scenes. 152 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: Obviously, there was a lot of consternation about how the 153 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: beginning of the game started in Carolina, and this is 154 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: where we are with the one game suspension here for 155 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: joh So that means Krington Valentine likely will be thrown 156 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: back in there. Eric Stokes more is going to be 157 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: expected from him with two games now underneath his belt 158 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: because the Vikings are going to hit you. They're not 159 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: the deepest coren the National FOOTBA League. I think there's 160 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 2: only five guys on their active roster at that position, 161 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: but Jefferson, Addison and Osbourne. And Osbourne is the one 162 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: I in my eye on because I think he does 163 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: not get as much respect as he deserves. I think 164 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: he could be a solid number two, number one receiver 165 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: for a lot of teams in the NFL. But when 166 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: you have someone that's as dynamic as Addison and honestly 167 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: the best receiver in the game right now in Justin Jefferson. 168 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to get as many opportunities. 169 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: But whoever the quarterback is out there for the Vikings 170 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: on Sunday Night, does have three really solid guys to 171 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: turn to. 172 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and when you look at this Viking season, 173 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: as up and down as it's been, as as kind 174 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: of crazy as it's been, it's really come down to 175 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: the turnovers, wes. And that's why Kevin O'Connell continues to 176 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: try to figure out what to do at quarterback. He 177 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: knows he has offensive weapons. Even with TJ. Hawkinson being injured. 178 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: As we've rattled off all these guys, O'Connell knows he 179 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: has offensive weapons. He wants a quarterback that's going to 180 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: protect the football and give his team the best chance 181 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: and not put his defense in bad situation with the turnovers. 182 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota has turned the ball over thirty times this season, 183 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: which is tied for the second highest total in the league. 184 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: And here's how it breaks down. They're a seven and 185 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: eight football team that in itself is somewhat remarkable. They 186 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: have thirty turnovers and to still be in the playoff 187 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: front here with two games to go. But they have 188 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: turned the ball over seven times in their seven victories. 189 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: They have turned the ball over twenty three times in 190 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: their eight losses. It, you know, we say it all 191 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: the time. Obviously, the turnover margin, the turnover differential is 192 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: always going to play a big factor in this league. 193 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: And you know, when you look at it from the 194 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: Packers side of things, green Bay's green Bay defensively has 195 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: struggled to get takeaways. They haven't you know, they haven't 196 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: hit that stretch yet this year where you know where 197 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: they come in bunches, where you get on a run 198 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: where suddenly you know the ball is always finding their hands. 199 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: Packers need that to happen on Sunday night at US 200 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: Bank Stadium. They need, they need, they need something like 201 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: that to go their way because that's been the formula 202 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: to beat Minnesota is to get them to turn the 203 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: ball over, no matter who's playing quarterback. 204 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, as I said, it was the difference 205 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: in that game against the Lions. Detroit does not win 206 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: that football game without being plus three in the turnover 207 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: margin in that contest. Here's what I find that's the 208 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: most funny though, Mike, because there's years where you and 209 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: I have sat down here and we've talked about plus 210 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: and minus with turnover differential and how that affects wins 211 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: and losses. This year, it makes no sense at all. 212 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: I mean, here are your bottom basically nine teams in 213 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: terms of turnover differential this season, starting with minus six 214 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: at Carolina and Tennessee. The results are what they are, 215 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: But then you got ten. Then you have Philadelphia in 216 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: Cleveland in New England at minus seven, completely different seasons 217 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: that they've been through, the New York Jets minus eight, 218 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: Minnesota in the playoff hunt at minus nine, Washington minus ten, 219 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: and we've obviously seen how things have gone for the Commanders, 220 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: but they're tied for last in the league with Kansas 221 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: City at minus ten and Kansas City currently sitting in 222 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: a wild card positioning. None of these teams, I would 223 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: you know, even now with the issues that Phillies had, 224 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: I don't think you'd say, Okay, they're in the Baltimore, Miami, 225 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: San Francisco category right now. But there's good football teams 226 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: in there that just have not been able to win 227 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: that differential. Yeah, Green Bay is smack dab in the 228 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: middle right at zero in terms of their nept differential. 229 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: They've actually done an acceplent exceptional job in the second 230 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: half the season protecting the football. But again, as you 231 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: outline trying to find ways to get the ball to 232 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: take away, it's always going to be a point of 233 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: emphasis in a football game that you need to be 234 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: able to generate turnovers. But Michael, if there was ever 235 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: a game where you're going to put down that exclamation point, 236 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: it's this one because it really probably is going to 237 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: be the difference between a winning a loss. 238 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need the Packers need the defensive effort that 239 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,359 Speaker 1: they brought to Detroit on Thanksgiving where you were disrupting 240 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, you were getting you know, the strip sacks 241 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: and obviously the defense scored a touchdown in that game 242 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, and there's you know, that's of immeasurable value 243 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: in these types of games. Since then, we saw Keishaw 244 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: Nixon get the big interception of Patrick Mahomes in the 245 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: fourth quarter in the victory over the Cheese but that 246 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: was the that was the Packers only takeaway in that game. 247 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: And yes, the Packers technically statistically they got two takeaways 248 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: against the Giants, but they were those were literally giveaways 249 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: by the Giants. The Packers didn't do anything to get 250 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: the ball. One was the punt that hit the unsuspecting 251 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: guy and created a live ball situation and the Packers 252 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: fell on the other one is Saquon Barkley just fumbling 253 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: the ball completely on his own when he when he 254 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: trips and and and goes to the ground. So those 255 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: takeaways almost don't even count. I mean, I know they 256 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: count statistically, but they don't really count. And then other 257 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: than that, you had the the early strip sack of 258 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which then ended 259 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: up not having as big an impact on the games 260 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: as you would want that one to. So the Packers 261 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: have to take the football away in this game because 262 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: because that has been the bugaboo for Minnesota. And you know, 263 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll we'll be in the press box, and 264 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: at us Bank Stadium, it's an open air press box, 265 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: so we get a little bit more of you know, 266 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: the stadium atmosphere than when we're behind the glass. But 267 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: what I was going to say is that when when 268 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: there are issues that impact a team throughout the course 269 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: of a season, and it can be it can be whatever. 270 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: It can be missing field goals, it can be penalties. 271 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: In this case for Minnesota, it's turnovers. You know it. 272 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: As soon as Minnesota turns the ball over once fumble 273 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: or interception on Sunday night and the Packers get the football, 274 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: You're going to feel it in the stadium, in the 275 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: attitude of the fans there, you know there, their shoulders 276 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: are going to slump like, oh, here we go again, 277 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: and there's going to be somewhat of you know, that 278 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: feeling on the sideline for the Minnesota vikings. The Packers 279 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: can't let Minnesota just have one of these games where 280 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: they get to protect the football, because because it can, 281 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: it'll play a huge factor on Sunday night. I want 282 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: to talk about a little bit about Minnesota's defense as well, 283 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: because when we were discussing the first meeting between these 284 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: teams this year, there was a lot of talk about, 285 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, Brian Flores and the blitz happy defense and everything, 286 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: and you know, Minnesota's blitz percentages being at the top 287 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: of the league, and then in that game at lambeau Field, 288 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: Flora's hardly blitzed at all a relative to what their 289 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: tendencies have been I really don't know what to expect 290 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: in that regard comes Sunday night. 291 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: Now. 292 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: It's obviously I always think it's easier. It's easier to 293 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: dial up the blitzes when you're playing at home because 294 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: you have that advantage of the opposing offense being on 295 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: the silent count and you can time things up a 296 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: little bit better than when you're on the road and 297 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: you don't have that advantage in terms of dialing up 298 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: pressure looks. But that aside, really, I think it's going 299 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: to be very interesting to see how Minnesota approaches things 300 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: because they just lost Dj Wantam, their number two sack 301 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: leader on the team. They've lost him now to an injury. 302 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: You have Daniel Hunter who's got fifteen and a half 303 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: sacks this year with two games left to go. He's 304 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: having a tremendous year, and you know, the Vikings have 305 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: just been very unpredictable. I think in that sense, in 306 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: terms of how Flora's is going to go about things 307 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: weak to week. 308 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: Well, one of the big reasons I think I don't 309 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: know what Flores's operation of philosophy was going to be 310 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: in week one, but I think sometimes I honestly think 311 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: that all the injuries probably did affect how much they 312 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: blitzed this season, because I don't want to say it's 313 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: quantity over quality, but it is really jarring how much 314 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: this team has blitzed over the course of the year. 315 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: In respect to where they rank in sacks, they're pretty 316 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: much middle of the pack. Yeah, it comes to sex, 317 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: but they generate pressure and they try to do it consistently. Now, 318 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: what's interesting is you mentioned Wanham. They already lost Marcus 319 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: Davenport earlier this season. Davenport was seen as sort of 320 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: the replacement for, you know, Zadarius. When Zadarius leaves and 321 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: goes to Cleveland, he was going to be the running 322 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: partner with Hunter. I've been so freaking and pressed by 323 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: Danil Hunter this year because again, every time you hear 324 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: neck injury, Mike, every time you hear fusion and that 325 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: type of stuff, and knowing that he wasn't able to 326 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: play through it for that amount of time, your mind 327 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: always goes to bad places. We've seen it in Green Bay. 328 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: How sometimes guys just don't get back from that. Hunter's 329 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: done that and he's actually gotten better now. I don't 330 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: know if that's just his skill set meshing well with 331 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: floras a scheme or exactly what the philosophy's been there. 332 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: But Daniel Hunter is a problem and Green Bay's gonna 333 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: have to account for him in this matchup. But overall, 334 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: just being able to kind of wear down Minnesota is 335 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: going to be vital in this game. The Green Bay Packers' 336 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: offense that the Vikings are going to be seeing is 337 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: vastly different than the one that they saw in Week seven. 338 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: The quarterback's different, the offensive line is playing much differently. 339 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: We saw this pass Sunday for the first time since 340 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: man I don't even know how long Rashid Walker took 341 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: every snap at left tackle rather than that rotation, and 342 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: then obviously over at right guard, you've had almost a 343 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: steady rotation now between John Runyon and Sean Ryan at 344 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: that spot. The Packers, I think you're seeing more continuity. 345 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: I think you're seeing more consistency, and obviously just more 346 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: swagger amongst that receiving court. One of the better safety 347 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: could takes that you're going to see in the National 348 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: Football League with what the Vikings deploy and how they 349 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: use those guys. But overall, I'm expecting a totally different 350 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: game from week week seven. I just I feel like 351 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: these two teams good bad or in between are much 352 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: different and much chance, you know, in terms of how 353 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: they've laid out and where they're. 354 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: At in this part of the season. 355 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and handling Daniel Hunter, whether Flores decides to blitz 356 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: or not, or blitz a lot or not. Handling Daniel 357 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: Hunter will be key here because you look back at 358 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: the last handful of games West and and the guys 359 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: that the the top notch pass rushers the Packers have 360 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: gone up against, whether you're talking about into your an 361 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: interior guy like Aaron Donald for the Rams or t J. 362 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: Watt on the edge for the Steelers, or Aiden Hutchinson 363 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: Brian Burns. Last week we didn't hear boo out of 364 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: him for for Carolina. The only edge guy, the only 365 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: the only top notch pass rusher who in my opinion, 366 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: had a had an outsize impact on a game over 367 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: the last couple of months Yere against the Packers was 368 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: Caveon Thibodeau for the Giants. That's really the only the 369 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: only guy the Packers didn't didn't handle quite right, But 370 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: otherwise all of the top pass rushers from these opposing 371 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: teams over the last six or seven games, the Packers 372 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: have done a really really good job. Can they do 373 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: that against Hunter as well? And then if they are, 374 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: what does Flores dial up in terms of pressure looks 375 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: to try to just get Hunter one on one where 376 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: the Packers can't you know, chip with a tight end 377 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: and help out or help out with a running back 378 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: because the running back has to have his eye on, 379 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: you know, somebody blitzing from somewhere else. All that kind 380 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: of stuff. That's the that's the x's and o'sh chess 381 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: match that that goes into this. 382 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: And it is funny now without uh, with where they're 383 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: at right now with these injuries behind Hunter, in terms 384 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: of active players, you're leading sack sack artists I guess 385 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: you could say from Minnesota are Harrison Smith with three 386 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: and Harrison Phillips with three. And Phillips is basically a 387 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: run stuffing nose tackle And that's just it's just kind 388 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: of the way it's. 389 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: Been for them so far. 390 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want I should have mentioned Chris Jones 391 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs as well. We didn't hear much out 392 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: of him. When you know, another top notch guy you 393 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: know on the defensive front for the other team that 394 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: the Packers handled well, So hopefully that continues. Well, we've 395 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: touched on we've touched obviously on the on the turnover 396 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: issue already. What else do you see as a key 397 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: to victory for green Bay in this game? 398 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones. 399 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: I was doing some research with the story that I 400 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 2: wrote on Thursday morning, and if you go back and 401 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: you look at Aaron Jones and some of his best 402 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: performances of his career, in addition to them just coming 403 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: against the Minnesota Viking, several of them actually come at 404 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: us Bank Stadium. And last week, despite all the things 405 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: that was working against green Bay going into that game, 406 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones was the guy that got everything going offensively. 407 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: He had twenty one carries, one hundred and twenty seven 408 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: rushing yards. He looked like, I don't want to say 409 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: the old Aaron Jones, but he looked like the healthy 410 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones. Yeah, and it has been so long since 411 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: we've seen that. And when you get that type of 412 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: production again, he has more rushing yards than any other 413 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: team in. 414 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: The National Football League. 415 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: And obviously they play they play the Vikings a lot, 416 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: but if you look at his production against the Vikings 417 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: compared to the Lions and the Bears. I mean, this 418 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: guy's done a lot of damage against them over the years. 419 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: We don't know what this is going to be like yet. 420 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: In terms of the skill position players for green Bay, 421 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: Luke Musgrave is back, but he's still on injured reserve 422 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: with the designation to return from the last rated kidney. 423 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: Jaden Reid practicing again with the toe. But you have 424 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: Dontavian Wicks now dealing with a chest injury in addition 425 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: to his ankle injury, and Christian Watson is still working 426 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: his way back from the hamstring. 427 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 3: Mike. 428 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: Those are the top of the line players for green Bay. 429 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: Those are your studs, so to speak. And the fact 430 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: that Aaron Jones was able to give Green Bay what 431 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: he gave them, and the fact that he's starting to 432 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: finally get healthy at the right time, I look at 433 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: him as being the catalyst for what could potentially be 434 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: a playoff push here. I think he's fresh in the 435 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: hamstring injuries behind him. As long as that knee is 436 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: in a good spot, he can get his condition as football, 437 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, speed and everything back. I just think the 438 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: skuy's the limit for Aaron Jones right now. He's definitely 439 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: motivated for sure. 440 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the other thing I would say too, I'll 441 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: go back to what we talked about on our last 442 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: show and reviewing the Carolina game is whoever is that 443 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Vikings? The the Packers can't can't let 444 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: the guy develop this you know, boost of confidence that's 445 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: going to suddenly, you know, morph him from you know, 446 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: from your average everyday quarterback into some kind of a 447 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: of a superman. Because because we've we've seen, we've seen 448 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: what that mental edge, what that edge of confidence can 449 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: can do for quarterbacks that that have been struggling and 450 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: then they get things rolling and then it's just too 451 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: hard to flip the switch the other way. And obviously 452 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: turnovers turnovers would play into that. But whether or not 453 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: you get turnovers, you also just don't want to don't 454 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: want that opposing quarterback to settle in and feel like 455 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: he's feel like he's in command of the game. That's 456 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: where that's where the Packers defense has has lost control 457 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: of things, is when the opposing quarterback is in command, 458 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: not your defensive front in terms of disrupting things. 459 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: It's a great point. And the other aspect I look 460 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: at that is. Conversely, take away green May. I know 461 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 2: Green Bay has been through a lot this season, obviously 462 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: trying to work through some stuff right now defensively, but 463 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: just keep this in mind too. If you could generate 464 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 2: a turnover early in this game, you have Kevin O'Connell 465 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: on the bench with two other quarterbacks behind him, two 466 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 2: other clipboards sitting there, and now you start doing the 467 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: mental math and okay, do we pick the right guy 468 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: to be out there? 469 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: Is this? 470 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: Then you start thinking, then you start questioning. I think 471 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 2: that's another really important piece of this is that if 472 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: you do if you get that pick, whoever starts, it 473 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: doesn't matter who it is. If you get a pick early, 474 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: if you force a fumbler early, if you generate in 475 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: a takeaway and get points off of it, the questions 476 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: immediately start from Minnesota. It's not just them, it's any 477 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: team that would be in that situation. 478 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I totally agree with you. There a little 479 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: bit of sponsor business here. 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I'll just rattle them off here, Wes, 490 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: and I'll let you comment on what you want to 491 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: you have. Atlanta is at Chicago, The Los Angeles Rams 492 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: are at the New York Giants, who have now gone 493 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: back to Tyrod Taylor at quarterback instead of Tommy DeVito. 494 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh sticking with Mason Rudolph after his big game at 495 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: quarterback against the Bengals. Pittsburgh is at Seattle, and then 496 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 1: New Orleans is at Tampa Bay, and not that that 497 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: one has. I can't figure out necessarily what's going on 498 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: in the NFC South and how things would affect the Packers, 499 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers clinch 500 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: the NFC South with a victory over the Saints this weekend, 501 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: and if you're the Packers, that is exactly what you 502 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: want because you lost to the Buccaneers. You don't want 503 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: to get involved in some kind of a tiebreaker with 504 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: them in the wildcard chase. So if the Buccaneers win 505 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: the South and their division champion, they get themselves the 506 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: four seed or whatever the case might be, then that's 507 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: a good thing. And then you're just you're looking at 508 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: the rest of the picture. 509 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: My big dad joke this week has been the Packers 510 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: have been eliminated from winning the NFC South Championship. They 511 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: are not eligible for it. So that being said, it 512 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: comes down to this race to nine wins. The Buccaneers 513 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: already at eight wins. If they win eight, if they 514 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: win ten, as long as they win the NFC South, 515 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: it is what it is. The thing you're more concerned 516 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: about as a Packer fan is making sure that Atlanta 517 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: in New Orleans don't get those don't get to nine. Yeah, 518 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: and I look at the Bears game this week. Sure, 519 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's momentum that could be extracted for Chicago 520 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: if they would happen to beat Atlanta, But the Packers 521 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: don't have that tie breaker. The farther away that Atlanta 522 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: is from the playoff conversation, the better for green Bay 523 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: simple as that Seattle Rams, That's where my eyes are 524 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: and just seeing exactly how green Bay is going to 525 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: be able to shuffle through all that. Pittsburgh is great matchup. 526 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: It's gonna be difficult going into that field and trying 527 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: to get a victory. But Steelers are hungry. They're on 528 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 2: the cusp of this thing too. You have Mike Tomlin 529 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: trying to keep his record going of here of you know, 530 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: having whatever it is, sixteen consecutive non. 531 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: Losing yes, not having a losing season. 532 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: You know that there's a lot on the line there 533 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: for them, and a lot of pride that they're trying 534 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: to get. And also a team when we're talking about 535 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: the turnover differential margin currently tied for the league lead 536 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: right now I think at plus ten on the season, 537 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: which is kind of incredible considering some of the issues 538 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: they've had at quarterback this year. And then the Rams 539 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: are the team that I think I am going to 540 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: be most closely following, not only because green Bay has 541 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: the actual tiebreaker against them, but just because this is 542 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: one of those teams that is peaking and you can 543 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: feel them peaking if they come crashing down to earth 544 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: a little bit against the Giants, that would be wonderful, 545 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 2: but ultimately even though it would be more of a 546 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: nail bier seeing what could happen the last week of 547 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: the season when they got a square off against the 548 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: forty nine ers. And for that reason, if the Washington 549 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: Commanders want to beat the forty nine ers and keep 550 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: this thing close to and give the forty nine ers 551 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 2: plenty to play for in week eighteen, Hey, who am 552 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: I argue with you? Let's go Jacoby Brissette. 553 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. That is the other thing to 554 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: look at is if you're if you're a Packers fan, 555 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: you want you want the Philadelphia Eagles to keep pace 556 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: with the San Francisco forty nine ers for that one seed, 557 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: or even the Detroit Lions for the Lions, Yeah, because 558 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: you want the Niners to not have the one seed 559 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: wrapped up, so that the Niners are still trying to 560 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: clinch the one seed and that first round by when 561 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: they face the Rams in week eighteen. Hopefully the Packers 562 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: can get the win over the Vikings, and then we 563 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: are looking at those scenarios. But I agree with you 564 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: with regard to the Rams. You look at you look 565 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: at all these teams. You look at all these teams 566 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: in the NFC Wildcard picture, and I know I mentioned 567 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: Seattle on our last show with them getting you know, 568 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: back to back last minute touchdown drives, you know, to 569 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: get to get two wins, you know, to to turn 570 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: the tide of their season after they'd been on a 571 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: rough losing streak there. But I would say, of all 572 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: of these teams in the wildcard hunt, the Rams are 573 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: the team that is surging the most. We talked a 574 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: lot about the Ravens at the end of our last show, Well, 575 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: the Rams were in Baltimore and took those guys to overtime. 576 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: As as as dominant as the Ravens have been lately, 577 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: they almost lost to the Rams in their own yard. 578 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: Because that's how tough the Rams are right now. So 579 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: I agree with you, if, if, if, somehow the Giants 580 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: can you know, bring the Rams back down to earth 581 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: a little bit, that start that starts to kind of 582 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: change the whole wild card picture as well, because I 583 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: do think, I do think that team. Matthew Stafford's got 584 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: that team playing pretty well. And Sean McVeigh knows all 585 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: about playoff chases and how to make a run. 586 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 2: Healthy Stafford, healthy Pooka, healthy Cup, healthy Williams. It's been 587 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: a problem for the National Football League, and they are 588 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: a team that can definitely get on a run, and 589 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: as you're trying to kind of claw your way into 590 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: this playoff picture, I think they're a team that you 591 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: definitely have to keep in the consideration. 592 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if you're a Packers fan, you are fans 593 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: this weekend of the Bears, the Giants, the Steelers, and 594 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. Quite frankly, those are the ones to keep 595 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: an eye on, but probably more so than any rooting 596 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: for the Giants and the Steelers to hopefully give the 597 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: Rams and the Seahawks respectively some trouble. 598 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, in Detroit and Dallas is gonna be a fun 599 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: football game. On top of that, you know, I mean 600 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: there are some really interesting matchups, obviously the Miami Baltimore 601 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: matchup for Week seventeen, for the time in which at 602 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: one point there was a lot of like, Okay, let's 603 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: see what happens here down the stretch. No, I mean, 604 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: there's a lot of compelling action, and certainly it's going 605 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: to help kind of weave together this final story as 606 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: we get ready for the postseason. 607 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: I think what's interesting that Saturday, that Saturday night matchup 608 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: Dallas against Detroit. Have there ever been two teams throughout 609 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: the course of one season who have been labeled for 610 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: real and then a fraud and then they're for real again, 611 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: and then they're a fraud again, like the Lions and 612 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: the Lions and the Cowboys that you know, not the 613 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: national narrative around those two teams has been rather humorous 614 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: when you follow it. It's just like everybody, you know, 615 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: you supposedly, you know, you're supposed to, you know, get hot, 616 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, everybody wants to do that, but 617 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: the league just doesn't work that way. The bottom line 618 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: is those are two teams that are headed to the playoffs. 619 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: They both played fairly tough schedules when you when you 620 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: look at how things have shaken out, and it's all 621 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: gonna come down to how they're playing in January and 622 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: how healthy they are and all of those kinds of things. 623 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: You know, the fact that the Cowboys lost last week 624 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins, that's not gonna matter one bit 625 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: with regard to the play aside from the seating and stuff, 626 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: of course, but the fact that they lost that game 627 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: is not gonna matter one bit in terms of whether 628 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: or not they're going to win a game in January 629 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: with their season on the line. Sometimes we make a 630 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: little bit too much of that. 631 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: It was funny how you said Detroit and Dallas. You 632 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: kind of took what was me my punchline away from 633 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: me there, Detroit and Dallas. 634 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right about that, by the way, in terms 635 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: of the for real or fraud. 636 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, when the Packers beat the Lions on Thanksgiving, everybody 637 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: wanted to start writing off the Lions as a fraud, 638 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: and you and I were both like, hey, you know, 639 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: that was a big win for the Packers, but you know, 640 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: don't write off the Lions just yet. And look, they've 641 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: straightened things out. They've gotten things going in the right 642 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: direction again. 643 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: But it's funny with Detroit and Dallas. W You're like, 644 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: is there any other teams that been like I was 645 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: gonna say, Miami's like, hold my clipboard. Yeah, they've kind 646 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: of on the AFC been that team very much so. 647 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: But again, peaking at the right time. I will close 648 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: the show with this because it was a one point 649 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: I was going to make about the Rams Giants game 650 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: that did not get a chance to make Mason Crosby. Yes, 651 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: the fact that he has now. 652 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: Forgot to bring him up earlier this week. 653 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we had a lot going on. Yeah, but 654 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: Mason Crosby the fact he now he's now kicking against 655 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: his former team, the Los Angeles Rams. 656 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: The team he was with for one week. For one week, 657 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: did not play in the game. 658 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: But but hey, you know, Mason wants to go and 659 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: hit a game winning kick for the New York Giants. 660 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: Have to make with fifty two yarder last. 661 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: Week, wouldn't that be? Wouldn't that be something if the 662 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: if the Packers playoff picture somehow you know hinges on 663 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon on Mason Crosby lining up to try to 664 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: knock off the Los Angeles Rams, that would be. That 665 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: would be, that would be. 666 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated. 667 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Congratulations to Mason Crosby getting back in 668 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: the scoring column with those kicks he made for the 669 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: Giants last week, and hopefully he makes some more. So 670 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: with that, we'll call it a rap on this edition 671 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our 672 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: coverage of the team and all of our coverage of 673 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: Sunday Nights Big Game from US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis. 674 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: We will have it all for you on packers dot 675 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: com for WES, I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in. 676 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: Everybody. 677 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: We will see you next time.