WEBVTT - EP 122 Sittin Fat Down South with Lil Troy 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.760 When I wrote y'all all across the USC conton Motts 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.719 Day to l a from on the California the Valley, 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.360 we represent that Kelly County. So if you're keeping it 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.160 real on your side of your town, you tune into 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:22.919 Gangster Chronicles Gangsters. He gonna tell you how we go. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.440 If I lie my nose will girl like Pinocchio, We're 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.160 gonna tell you to choose in nothing but the Gangster 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:33.760 Chronic goals. This is not your average show. You're now 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.199 tuned into the rail m c A Bick James and 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:46.479 Big stails the streets. Hello, where are you at? This 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.600 is o g gangster Granny and the Gangster Chronicles podcast 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.800 is bad in effect, Get ready for some of that 0:00:54.080 --> 0:01:00.440 G ship and bleae up some wanna Merrow went to 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:04.080 another episode against the Chronicles podcast. I with my homeboy 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.200 Big James. Yeah you know, of course mcat is out 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.720 there on the football field coach the kids to victory 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.440 and stuff. He'd be back in next week. But before 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.680 we get stirts tonight, I want to address a very 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:19.200 very serious situation on James recently lost his own father. 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.520 Mr Quinn is will born and I know James, you guys, 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.240 um had kind of just gotta queen it like later 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.120 on in your life. And we really got acquin it 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:34.120 at twenty two. Um, he's always been around, and you 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.479 know I always wonder why he was giving mom's money 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.760 and uh giving me money. And you know, I just 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.600 didn't put two and two together. To my cousin, Christine 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:49.000 rest in peace, she basically told me, you know, that's 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.120 your problem. This was at a younger age, and I 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.480 really didn't put two and two together until I started 0:01:55.520 --> 0:02:01.840 going to Texas with my papas James m and his 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:06.000 family pretty much really uh rejected me. I was telling 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.200 me I wouldn't his son and and I went part 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.320 of the family and all that ship stuff. Yeah, I 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.960 had to deal with that, and you know I always 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.040 wonder why this dude didn't, you know, take up from me. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.959 So I learned to cuss them out. You know. Yeah, 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.000 they was all bitches. They were there thing, They was 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.359 everything under the table. They were bitches and everything to me. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.960 So I didn't have family like that out there. They 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.880 didn't look at me like that like they looked at 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:40.160 my brothers. I'm pretty sure it's changed now, but now 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:44.640 this time, well you know, Um, all of those people 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.320 are going down. His mother gone, he gone, is Auntie gone. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.440 A lot of them will gone now. And you know, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.680 I really don't talk to any of them. But you know, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.240 I got two brothers. I still call him my brother, 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.760 Anthony and Barry out there. Um. But other than that, 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.640 I don't really communicate with nobody. Man. You know, hopefully 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.560 y'all change that dynamic man to get to know each other, 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.079 you know, because family is a special thing. Man, it 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.679 can't be a special thing. So I'm gonna keep you 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.919 up in prayers. Brother. On that man, Max, y'all find 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.880 resolution and resolving that man. And you know, you know, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:20.519 it was a blessing at the age of twenty two 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:24.560 to get the meats of biological father. And that's a blessing, man, 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.560 you know. Um. And we hit it off right at 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.680 the top. Um. You know, he was in the motorcycle 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.280 club and then asked me, come on, Shana, I love 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.520 had you in the motorcycle club. You'll bring a lot 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.200 to the bike set. I was like, Pops, I'm still 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.200 a game banging and ship. I don't want to do that. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:44.640 I can't do them both. And you know, just going 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.440 up to the club and and shitting back party and 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:51.240 with him, I went and bought a motorcycle and uh 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.400 I joined the club. And you know they wanted to 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.280 give me special treatment because I was too sweet sound 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.600 you know for a patch. I didn't want time and 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.680 he was he man, Sean, I love that because you 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.600 could have got a full patch just because of me, 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:14.360 because you want son and man I was. I love 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.640 pulling up on the yard on them on my bike 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.880 and he out there they're drinking and kicking it. And 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.000 you know, right now today still you know all the 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.440 old gs. You know, this show got love for me. 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.920 You know what I'm saying. That's a beautiful thing, man, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.599 that's a beautiful thing. Man received that dog, you know 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.640 see that that's a that's a thing. You know. But 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.720 tonight man, it's always man. Um, we got somebody pretty 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.400 special in the house. One of eight times. Fine, it's 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.039 one of the rich negators down there, and we go 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:46.160 get into that tonight. Um, Little Troy, what's up? What's 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.320 your partner? What's going on? Stair? What's up? James at Main? 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.600 Stuff for your lost man, and keep your head up. Man, 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.400 you don't say thank you. I don't want you to 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:58.160 keep keep going, you feel me. Oh yeah, it's definitely yeah. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.719 But man, you know, Troy, you quite a history down there. Man, 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.440 you had I know you started short Stop week we 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:11.520 year did you started short Stop Records nineteen eight, so 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.320 you and the other label across town Rap a Lot, 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.440 pretty much started around the same time. Then yeah, like 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.960 and yeah about the year before me and uh, but 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:25.080 we all came up in the industry at the same time, learning, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.920 going through all the trial and trip relations hard not 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.360 you know, not knowing the music business. I gotta go 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.039 try to find the lauder and pay him for his 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.279 time to tell a certain things or not. We just 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.560 figured out on I own that what I did, mostly 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.960 I done. I figured this your my own. Yeah, most 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.200 of the smart ones do. Yeah, most most of the 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.359 smart ones doing. And the first artist you had in 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.920 the label was if I'm correcting me wrong, DJ Action, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.000 now known to the world of Scarface. Correct, yeah he was. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.200 Actually he was scar facing it with me. He was scarf. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.880 Oh so we're breaking news now, So scar Face starts 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:05.040 before he even yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he started off 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.240 as DJ actually first came to me and then we 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:11.479 did that song together. I started Small Time Dope gang cocaine, 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.280 pushing rocks on the block never broke main. You know, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.400 when we did that song, he was talking about me 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.680 and my little brothers setting rocks on the block and stuff, 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.760 you know, in the village and the dead End and ship. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.719 So and when we write that songs that nobody nomber 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.880 named the common scar face and then right then we 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.400 just thought saying that, what that's your name, nigga, Scarf Frey, 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.840 We're gonna call you scar free nigged. And that's how 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.120 I started off on the album cover, you know how 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:35.880 we did it and everything. You know, I got a 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.600 bunch of us sitting on my callac back in the 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.880 dead End and the village and stuff with all kind 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.240 of guns all on the cover, sitting on my callac 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.039 and ship. You know, I'm saying we were we were 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.440 just living the park. Where were what we were doing 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.560 in our neighborhood, you know, the my lifestyle. The first 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.760 face was just sixteen years old when he made that song. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.800 So he was out there on the block selling on 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.039 rocks or nothing. That's what we was out there doing, 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.159 you know what they me and my live brother. So 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.760 you know, he kept him head a little bit and 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.920 stay with my mama. You know what I'm saying, face 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:07.800 is little my mama. So mom used to cook for 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.840 him and everything. You know what I'm saying. But okay, yeah, 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.200 as I started out back then like that, you know 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:14.880 what I'm saying. Okay, so y'all took care of But 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:16.760 you know, on this show, man, we'd like to keep 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.400 it g at all times. We're gonna definitely talk about 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.320 the music because it's a big part of your life. 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.480 But I want to go back to the corners, to 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.640 them blocks, man, the streets. That's fun, little troit you 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.600 know what I mean? Now, where are you from? Are 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.800 you from the fifth Ward? Is that fifth and fifth Ward? 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.480 Where you from? South Park? South Side? When everybody says 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.360 it's south side, the dead end? I related out the 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.160 dead end, you know what I'm saying. So I help 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.640 created a culture of what they're doing now in the 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.480 dead end. Okay, I got you, and you started off 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.679 like so many of us. You was out there hustling. Stay. 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.440 That's the only thing we knew at the time, you 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.880 know what I'm saying. It's the only way we knew 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.080 to get some money, you know, to try to fund 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.600 out life, our family, and then we started to start 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.000 doing business on the way we knew how to get 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.520 some money was go out there and hit the blocks, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.520 you know, then start sending rocks, and then you move 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.760 up to the four and a half and nine of breaks, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.520 and then you got them coming in. M That's how 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.680 everybody started off pretty much. I mean, we are from 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.520 the hood, We all from the streets. So it was 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.080 it was the hoodie for music. It was the hoodie 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.840 any good. And my old man rested piece my dad 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.000 passed while back to you know what I'm saying, he 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.200 was like the next thing to guard to me. He 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.000 didn't want to put me in the game, you know, saying. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.800 Old man was a merchant seaman. So he used to 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.640 go out on the ships to the country and ship 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.640 and bring all that work back for the Columbials here 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.280 in town. Right, so you get it from the Columbias, uh, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:43.040 for them plumbers out the country, and then bring it 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.120 back on the ship. Here meet the ones he got 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.959 to bring him to here, give it to him and stuff. Right. 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.840 And then when he showed me how to cook, you know, 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.760 talk me how to cook, I started cooking for them 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.320 to let him know how good it was. Cause they 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.240 didn't know how to cook. Oh wow, so y'allways in 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.360 the game. Then, yeah, my old man put me down. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.040 So when I got ready and start making making ways 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.240 and needed more and more and more, I already had 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.080 people I can go to cause the old man was 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:10.800 already connected. M Yeah, let me tell you this, Stroy, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.199 because um, we know we got a whole bunch of 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.840 mutual acquaintances and you was doing you was definitely doing 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:20.400 your thing. He's definitely verified. You know, he's verified and certified, 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:24.240 you know, an officials official like a motherfucker. Um, did 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.600 you ever start feeling the heat? What made you want to, like, um, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.120 diversify your portfolio? You won't jump out the game where 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.360 incident happened to make you say, you know what, this 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.440 selling rock ship, I gotta go do some other ship. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.320 It wouldn't never to set about till a long time, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:44.200 you know what. I'm uh that I ain't gonna lie. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:47.920 It was made too much money in the streets and 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.439 at the time to just up and stop. But I 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.800 started doing music, and I played music in the from 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.840 the third grade in school and then my mom my 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:58.120 dad and then had bands, you know, I side playing 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.400 nightclubs and I was a little kid, so i just 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.679 go to the clubs with them, and I'm at eleven, twelve, 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.400 thirty years old, watch them playing stuff, you know, and 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.439 they're practicing at the house. I'm playing, and I'm playing 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.880 in the band in school. So it was quite naturally. 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.600 It was just in my blood. I was born to 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.120 be a huffler and too a musician. You know what 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.520 I'm saying. From old man. Okay, okay, So so it 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.280 wasn't no um come to Jesus moment as they say, 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.040 that made you say, you know what fun this? I 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.160 gotta get out the game. You didn't get robbed, you said, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.840 you kept doing your thing. I had to make enough 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.559 money to uh to put this music out, you know 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.600 what I'm saying. We ain't about giving some money. So 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.200 you know, when you put out an album back then, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.000 studio time was highs hell. It's studio time was not 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.080 cheat what NOO CDs burned no songs on the CD. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.000 We were burning songs on a full hi VCR take. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.120 When I put my first record out with star Face, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.319 we burned the music on a full high VHI UH 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:55.480 video tape. For the kids out there, they don't know 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.640 nothing about everything this before the a Dad, I ain't 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.760 much mather eight Dad, I gotta go and take it 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:06.120 back for the eight dad, damn before the VCR tape 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.520 is what I mastered Scarface song too, and send it 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.720 off to get to get it put on wax fo 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.200 high VCR tape. You know what. That was the first 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.440 big technology right there. That was the first big one. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.080 So you talked about going back then everything was high 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:24.520 and see we used to be to go to a 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.199 recording studio. Back thing changed like eighty eight. You was 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.000 gonna spend any bit up anywhere from sevi five an hour, 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:33.120 it's up to two fifty. Yeah, that's when I started. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:37.439 And I first met uh scar Face, him and him 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.719 and him and Bruce Bruce Rose and uh Beato. You 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.040 know what I'm saying. I'm a hustling, so you know, 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.280 they tell me he can wrap. I listened to him 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.720 on on over the phone. I'm like, okay, no, I 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:49.640 had that big old brick ass phone. You don't that 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.439 big brick phone back then, you don't say, and they 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.920 ate it, and um I heard him. It was cool. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.320 And so men Beato hooked up Men Beato. We we 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.240 we were hustling though together. You know what they ain't 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.080 going out to said, set the rocks and packs and 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.160 everything else all out of town. When you hear a 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.439 s Q say, uh Folk game bangers for freshing the 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.720 crack slangers, I just knew he had to peep down 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.040 my life and was talking about meeting what I was 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.040 doing down here. I'm like hiding to hear this nigger. 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:18.880 That's what we do. We go here the block, don't 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.240 on nobody out of town and set up shop. The 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.960 only thing it was different that we won game bangers though, 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.080 you know what I'm saying. I never I know players, 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.400 criple of bloods or nothing. You know what I'm saying. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.120 I would just have been a g able to go 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.920 away over folk with whoever about making some money. Let's 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.080 make some money. Well, I love it here. How you 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.559 did that to go on somebody else neighborhood, just fresh 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.120 off the bus, out the car and then pull up 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.240 and start slanging. Now you open up shop. I knew 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.480 you had a lot of enemies trying to do that. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.120 Then when you bring that work and you're making it 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.640 making sure everybody eat, they loved you from out of town. Okay, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.640 that's what it was you you were passing it and 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.720 looking out for everybody. Yeah, I had him working. Yeah, 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.520 I made sure that when I got on the block, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.920 I finally who's really making it, who're doing it? I 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.320 put him in and make sure he put anybody else in. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.280 You know what I'm saying. Okay, I'm gonna be out 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.200 there too, gonna get mine, but we all what you need. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.920 You know, No, I don't know what up he go. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.520 And I ain't just busting out ahead all the time 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.079 like that, you know what I'm saying. So I know 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.800 how to finess my way in the game with motherfucker's 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.319 and people and ship you know what. They're not trying 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.200 to come in and strong on them and just take over. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.600 And like I'm now, I get on. But if if 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.679 I don't have to, and I can get this money 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:34.760 quite as possible and move on, that's what I do, 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.280 smart man. That's the best way right there, That's the 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.120 best way to get down. So what was your spots? 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.120 Try what parts? You know that's a long time ago 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:49.440 stacks with limitations. Where were you allegedly at with different 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.000 spots when you can move with your hot spots all 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.960 over all over Jackson Money of photo author south side 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.439 north side of the southwest side. I just go way over, man, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.400 cause you know, you know, I just my nuts, hunting 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.600 my stocks. But I know I had a good mouthpiece, 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.720 and I know a treat people and talk to people 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.160 and make sure we got that money. It was. It 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.760 was all great. But when you come over another neighborhood 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.880 or somewhere else, sometimes they know of you, you know, 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.319 saying people heard, oh I heard a litty yeah, okay, 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.600 that's such such, So they'd be like, all right, what 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.640 the name got going on? And when I put this 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:27.160 present this money to him, probably gonna make this money together. Hey, everything, 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.160 you gotta go out the wonder. And at the time, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.920 you know, Bloods and Chris one't real real big downhill, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:33.400 you know what I'm saying, So we didn't really have 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.280 that's sick that said like you can't go over here 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.240 cause you're gonna blue. You can't go you're all ready. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.760 We didn't. It wasn't that bad when I first jumped 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.120 in the game back in the day, you know what 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.560 I'm saying. And I just stayed new to the whole time. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.640 So right now you can be at my house. Back 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.040 then at my studio I have blood encryption the house. 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.440 At the same time, we all hustling together. Ain't nobody 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.240 starting no ship and they know him new to when 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.360 you come fuck with me. Hey, it's all about money 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.200 and we we o g we make this money, alright, 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.320 We hustles. And the where I cared myself the whole 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.720 entire time I disrespect them, didn't disrespect me. They showed 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.320 me love. That's how I just wrote. Man, I still 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.880 rode that way right now today. Yeah, well, let me 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.040 ask you this. Let me ask you this big dog. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.600 You mentioned the crips and the bloods. Not know they 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.120 both deep down the Texas, all through Texas anything now, Yeah, 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.320 they're deep through Texas. When did you know this week 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.680 we year, did you notice, um the gangs like that 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:32.520 starting to infiltrate like Texas Like nineties three DNA Danny 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.960 three named fold, They really getting real deep down there. 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.320 Then nine four my brother he was a five dude 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.760 who you know what I'm saying, And uh, he went 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.600 to prison at ninety two and I went to NATY one. 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.320 He went in NY two and I got out of 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.120 name the three you the five dudes who and all this? 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.400 Who were friends Sam that all little big boys that 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.400 was that was non ranked up. When I come home, 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:57.840 you know they don't. They was like, man, your brothers 0:15:57.880 --> 0:15:59.680 don't put in so much work with us. Bro, whatever 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:01.840 you need, man, you just holler. Man, you got us. Man, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.160 I said, y'all, y'all know all players, I ain't like 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.000 dying now. O G. You don't made your way already 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.520 it Bro, you ain't got to. I said, I find 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.000 in You know what I'm saying. My brother right now 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.560 still still locked up from anti nin to them their 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.560 life Simmons. You know they got life Simmons right now. 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.680 Oh wow, it's already that man, like so many of us, 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:22.280 man locked in them cages. Dog. And you know now 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.240 when that first came down there did that mediant even 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.960 resistance because I remember, like, um, and this is going 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.000 back first, I'm richly from Cleveland and Cleveland what happened 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:33.680 with us. It was a whole bunch of l a 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.200 cats that came now and it was funny. It was 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:41.200 like all the Bloods came into Accoring, Ohio. All the 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.320 crips went in to Cleveland, which is the biggest city, 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.200 but the Bloods kind of locked down them smaller little 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.760 cities around, you know, around the big cities. Like they 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.560 wouldn't go into Columbus. They would be on in Bath, 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.040 Ohio or somewhere Dating, Ohio like the other little all 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:56.920 bringing places. But I know there's more of them started 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.240 coming through. Did they come down here on the hustling too? 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:02.920 That came out of husband? You know we didn't. I didn't. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.600 I ain't never. I have not one time, And my 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.720 whole entire life got into it with a blood or 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.919 crypt in. My whole entire life of being out in 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.960 these streets and not being in the streets. Not one 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.080 time they came down there. They were like more they 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.679 started what they were doing, but they respect us hustling 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.879 cause we were more ahtown. He was down there hustling together. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.439 You know that we're gonna hustle from take work the 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.680 different side of the town. They said, town, come get 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.000 work or whatever. We wouldn't. We weren't on on that 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:33.520 at the time. You know what I'm saying for us, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:35.960 Me and my click and my crew, the niggers I 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.680 funk with. We wasn't worrying about red or blue. Let's 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:44.639 get this green. There was never an issue with me. 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:46.959 You know what I'm saying, I guess I got blessed 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.159 to be one of the ones that never had an 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.920 issue with nobody like that. You know what I'm saying, 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.400 for us, no, no, no game filiated. Well to be real, 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.480 you know, the be honest with you and James, you 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.720 pably could attested this. Usually the guys to get caught 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:01.439 up in the guys to be out there and then 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.800 some ship they ain't got no business into anyway, cash 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.760 that used to remain new for the mind and their 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:10.560 own they really don't have too much to worry about. Often, well, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.639 a lot of this ship came when the homies just 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.040 started bringing homies out there just to kick it. Them 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.000 the ones that was hanging out and going to the 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.600 stove start and ship with other people. They were not 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.359 there selling ope for nothing. They just out there to 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.280 kick it. But they and then they wind up living there, 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.680 you know what I'm saying. But you know, because it's 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.520 totally different from being in the hood. See, in the hood, 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.359 you couldn't get away with all that ship. You go 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.040 out of town, like going to Denver. You know, when 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.000 we went to Denver, you know, it was some homies 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.240 out there that shouldn't have been out there, you know 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.959 what I'm saying. So he bringing I bring two cats 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.719 to the homies to come and kick you down. He 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.120 bringing two of the homies to come kick it. Now 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.040 they're just hanging out doing their thing, you know, the 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.560 game banging thing, and that kind of sucked it up. 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.920 If if if the hustlers and stayed hustling and left 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.240 the homies way to yet, the game would have been, 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.080 it would have stayed tighter, because it seems like Troy 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.920 had this ship wrapped up tight. Because you don't you 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.000 an't even had to go out of town. Need y'all, 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.800 y'all just go around Texas and be good, go around texting, 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.720 be good. You know. Then? Uh, I had a group 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.679 from Kansas City right called Mask One the Seven. Um 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.960 they were cryps, you know what I'm saying, And they 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.480 ride around the k C ship on all down here 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.159 and stuff. I had to get them straight. Hell up, man, 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.240 I respect what y'all got going on, y'all signing my label, 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.520 but I'm gonna hustle. I'm o g in this game, man. 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.320