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Speaker 1: Big James. Yeah you know, of course mcat is out
Speaker 1: there on the football field coach the kids to victory
Speaker 1: and stuff. He'd be back in next week. But before
Speaker 1: we get stirts tonight, I want to address a very
Speaker 1: very serious situation on James recently lost his own father.
Speaker 1: Mr Quinn is will born and I know James, you guys,
Speaker 1: um had kind of just gotta queen it like later
Speaker 1: on in your life. And we really got acquin it
Speaker 1: at twenty two. Um, he's always been around, and you
Speaker 1: know I always wonder why he was giving mom's money
Speaker 1: and uh giving me money. And you know, I just
Speaker 1: didn't put two and two together. To my cousin, Christine
Speaker 1: rest in peace, she basically told me, you know, that's
Speaker 1: your problem. This was at a younger age, and I
Speaker 1: really didn't put two and two together until I started
Speaker 1: going to Texas with my papas James m and his
Speaker 1: family pretty much really uh rejected me. I was telling
Speaker 1: me I wouldn't his son and and I went part
Speaker 1: of the family and all that ship stuff. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had to deal with that, and you know I always
Speaker 1: wonder why this dude didn't, you know, take up from me.
Speaker 1: So I learned to cuss them out. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they was all bitches. They were there thing, They was
Speaker 1: everything under the table. They were bitches and everything to me.
Speaker 1: So I didn't have family like that out there. They
Speaker 1: didn't look at me like that like they looked at
Speaker 1: my brothers. I'm pretty sure it's changed now, but now
Speaker 1: this time, well you know, Um, all of those people
Speaker 1: are going down. His mother gone, he gone, is Auntie gone.
Speaker 1: A lot of them will gone now. And you know,
Speaker 1: I really don't talk to any of them. But you know,
Speaker 1: I got two brothers. I still call him my brother,
Speaker 1: Anthony and Barry out there. Um. But other than that,
Speaker 1: I don't really communicate with nobody. Man. You know, hopefully
Speaker 1: y'all change that dynamic man to get to know each other,
Speaker 1: you know, because family is a special thing. Man, it
Speaker 1: can't be a special thing. So I'm gonna keep you
Speaker 1: up in prayers. Brother. On that man, Max, y'all find
Speaker 1: resolution and resolving that man. And you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it was a blessing at the age of twenty two
Speaker 1: to get the meats of biological father. And that's a blessing, man,
Speaker 1: you know. Um. And we hit it off right at
Speaker 1: the top. Um. You know, he was in the motorcycle
Speaker 1: club and then asked me, come on, Shana, I love
Speaker 1: had you in the motorcycle club. You'll bring a lot
Speaker 1: to the bike set. I was like, Pops, I'm still
Speaker 1: a game banging and ship. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: I can't do them both. And you know, just going
Speaker 1: up to the club and and shitting back party and
Speaker 1: with him, I went and bought a motorcycle and uh
Speaker 1: I joined the club. And you know they wanted to
Speaker 1: give me special treatment because I was too sweet sound
Speaker 1: you know for a patch. I didn't want time and
Speaker 1: he was he man, Sean, I love that because you
Speaker 1: could have got a full patch just because of me,
Speaker 1: because you want son and man I was. I love
Speaker 1: pulling up on the yard on them on my bike
Speaker 1: and he out there they're drinking and kicking it. And
Speaker 1: you know, right now today still you know all the
Speaker 1: old gs. You know, this show got love for me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's a beautiful thing, man,
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. Man received that dog, you know
Speaker 1: see that that's a that's a thing. You know. But
Speaker 1: tonight man, it's always man. Um, we got somebody pretty
Speaker 1: special in the house. One of eight times. Fine, it's
Speaker 1: one of the rich negators down there, and we go
Speaker 1: get into that tonight. Um, Little Troy, what's up? What's
Speaker 1: your partner? What's going on? Stair? What's up? James at Main?
Speaker 1: Stuff for your lost man, and keep your head up. Man,
Speaker 1: you don't say thank you. I don't want you to
Speaker 1: keep keep going, you feel me. Oh yeah, it's definitely yeah.
Speaker 1: But man, you know, Troy, you quite a history down there. Man,
Speaker 1: you had I know you started short Stop week we
Speaker 1: year did you started short Stop Records nineteen eight, so
Speaker 1: you and the other label across town Rap a Lot,
Speaker 1: pretty much started around the same time. Then yeah, like
Speaker 1: and yeah about the year before me and uh, but
Speaker 1: we all came up in the industry at the same time, learning,
Speaker 1: going through all the trial and trip relations hard not
Speaker 1: you know, not knowing the music business. I gotta go
Speaker 1: try to find the lauder and pay him for his
Speaker 1: time to tell a certain things or not. We just
Speaker 1: figured out on I own that what I did, mostly
Speaker 1: I done. I figured this your my own. Yeah, most
Speaker 1: of the smart ones do. Yeah, most most of the
Speaker 1: smart ones doing. And the first artist you had in
Speaker 1: the label was if I'm correcting me wrong, DJ Action,
Speaker 1: now known to the world of Scarface. Correct, yeah he was.
Speaker 1: Actually he was scar facing it with me. He was scarf.
Speaker 1: Oh so we're breaking news now, So scar Face starts
Speaker 1: before he even yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he started off
Speaker 1: as DJ actually first came to me and then we
Speaker 1: did that song together. I started Small Time Dope gang cocaine,
Speaker 1: pushing rocks on the block never broke main. You know,
Speaker 1: when we did that song, he was talking about me
Speaker 1: and my little brothers setting rocks on the block and stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, in the village and the dead End and ship.
Speaker 1: So and when we write that songs that nobody nomber
Speaker 1: named the common scar face and then right then we
Speaker 1: just thought saying that, what that's your name, nigga, Scarf Frey,
Speaker 1: We're gonna call you scar free nigged. And that's how
Speaker 1: I started off on the album cover, you know how
Speaker 1: we did it and everything. You know, I got a
Speaker 1: bunch of us sitting on my callac back in the
Speaker 1: dead End and the village and stuff with all kind
Speaker 1: of guns all on the cover, sitting on my callac
Speaker 1: and ship. You know, I'm saying we were we were
Speaker 1: just living the park. Where were what we were doing
Speaker 1: in our neighborhood, you know, the my lifestyle. The first
Speaker 1: face was just sixteen years old when he made that song.
Speaker 1: So he was out there on the block selling on
Speaker 1: rocks or nothing. That's what we was out there doing,
Speaker 1: you know what they me and my live brother. So
Speaker 1: you know, he kept him head a little bit and
Speaker 1: stay with my mama. You know what I'm saying, face
Speaker 1: is little my mama. So mom used to cook for
Speaker 1: him and everything. You know what I'm saying. But okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: as I started out back then like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, so y'all took care of But
Speaker 1: you know, on this show, man, we'd like to keep
Speaker 1: it g at all times. We're gonna definitely talk about
Speaker 1: the music because it's a big part of your life.
Speaker 1: But I want to go back to the corners, to
Speaker 1: them blocks, man, the streets. That's fun, little troit you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Now, where are you from? Are
Speaker 1: you from the fifth Ward? Is that fifth and fifth Ward?
Speaker 1: Where you from? South Park? South Side? When everybody says
Speaker 1: it's south side, the dead end? I related out the
Speaker 1: dead end, you know what I'm saying. So I help
Speaker 1: created a culture of what they're doing now in the
Speaker 1: dead end. Okay, I got you, and you started off
Speaker 1: like so many of us. You was out there hustling. Stay.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing we knew at the time, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's the only way we knew
Speaker 1: to get some money, you know, to try to fund
Speaker 1: out life, our family, and then we started to start
Speaker 1: doing business on the way we knew how to get
Speaker 1: some money was go out there and hit the blocks,
Speaker 1: you know, then start sending rocks, and then you move
Speaker 1: up to the four and a half and nine of breaks,
Speaker 1: and then you got them coming in. M That's how
Speaker 1: everybody started off pretty much. I mean, we are from
Speaker 1: the hood, We all from the streets. So it was
Speaker 1: it was the hoodie for music. It was the hoodie
Speaker 1: any good. And my old man rested piece my dad
Speaker 1: passed while back to you know what I'm saying, he
Speaker 1: was like the next thing to guard to me. He
Speaker 1: didn't want to put me in the game, you know, saying.
Speaker 1: Old man was a merchant seaman. So he used to
Speaker 1: go out on the ships to the country and ship
Speaker 1: and bring all that work back for the Columbials here
Speaker 1: in town. Right, so you get it from the Columbias, uh,
Speaker 1: for them plumbers out the country, and then bring it
Speaker 1: back on the ship. Here meet the ones he got
Speaker 1: to bring him to here, give it to him and stuff. Right.
Speaker 1: And then when he showed me how to cook, you know,
Speaker 1: talk me how to cook, I started cooking for them
Speaker 1: to let him know how good it was. Cause they
Speaker 1: didn't know how to cook. Oh wow, so y'allways in
Speaker 1: the game. Then, yeah, my old man put me down.
Speaker 1: So when I got ready and start making making ways
Speaker 1: and needed more and more and more, I already had
Speaker 1: people I can go to cause the old man was
Speaker 1: already connected. M Yeah, let me tell you this, Stroy,
Speaker 1: because um, we know we got a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: mutual acquaintances and you was doing you was definitely doing
Speaker 1: your thing. He's definitely verified. You know, he's verified and certified,
Speaker 1: you know, an officials official like a motherfucker. Um, did
Speaker 1: you ever start feeling the heat? What made you want to, like, um,
Speaker 1: diversify your portfolio? You won't jump out the game where
Speaker 1: incident happened to make you say, you know what, this
Speaker 1: selling rock ship, I gotta go do some other ship.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't never to set about till a long time,
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm uh that I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: It was made too much money in the streets and
Speaker 1: at the time to just up and stop. But I
Speaker 1: started doing music, and I played music in the from
Speaker 1: the third grade in school and then my mom my
Speaker 1: dad and then had bands, you know, I side playing
Speaker 1: nightclubs and I was a little kid, so i just
Speaker 1: go to the clubs with them, and I'm at eleven, twelve,
Speaker 1: thirty years old, watch them playing stuff, you know, and
Speaker 1: they're practicing at the house. I'm playing, and I'm playing
Speaker 1: in the band in school. So it was quite naturally.
Speaker 1: It was just in my blood. I was born to
Speaker 1: be a huffler and too a musician. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. From old man. Okay, okay, So so it
Speaker 1: wasn't no um come to Jesus moment as they say,
Speaker 1: that made you say, you know what fun this? I
Speaker 1: gotta get out the game. You didn't get robbed, you said,
Speaker 1: you kept doing your thing. I had to make enough
Speaker 1: money to uh to put this music out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We ain't about giving some money. So
Speaker 1: you know, when you put out an album back then,
Speaker 1: studio time was highs hell. It's studio time was not
Speaker 1: cheat what NOO CDs burned no songs on the CD.
Speaker 1: We were burning songs on a full hi VCR take.
Speaker 1: When I put my first record out with star Face,
Speaker 1: we burned the music on a full high VHI UH
Speaker 1: video tape. For the kids out there, they don't know
Speaker 1: nothing about everything this before the a Dad, I ain't
Speaker 1: much mather eight Dad, I gotta go and take it
Speaker 1: back for the eight dad, damn before the VCR tape
Speaker 1: is what I mastered Scarface song too, and send it
Speaker 1: off to get to get it put on wax fo
Speaker 1: high VCR tape. You know what. That was the first
Speaker 1: big technology right there. That was the first big one.
Speaker 1: So you talked about going back then everything was high
Speaker 1: and see we used to be to go to a
Speaker 1: recording studio. Back thing changed like eighty eight. You was
Speaker 1: gonna spend any bit up anywhere from sevi five an hour,
Speaker 1: it's up to two fifty. Yeah, that's when I started.
Speaker 1: And I first met uh scar Face, him and him
Speaker 1: and him and Bruce Bruce Rose and uh Beato. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm a hustling, so you know,
Speaker 1: they tell me he can wrap. I listened to him
Speaker 1: on on over the phone. I'm like, okay, no, I
Speaker 1: had that big old brick ass phone. You don't that
Speaker 1: big brick phone back then, you don't say, and they
Speaker 1: ate it, and um I heard him. It was cool.
Speaker 1: And so men Beato hooked up Men Beato. We we
Speaker 1: we were hustling though together. You know what they ain't
Speaker 1: going out to said, set the rocks and packs and
Speaker 1: everything else all out of town. When you hear a
Speaker 1: s Q say, uh Folk game bangers for freshing the
Speaker 1: crack slangers, I just knew he had to peep down
Speaker 1: my life and was talking about meeting what I was
Speaker 1: doing down here. I'm like hiding to hear this nigger.
Speaker 1: That's what we do. We go here the block, don't
Speaker 1: on nobody out of town and set up shop. The
Speaker 1: only thing it was different that we won game bangers though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I never I know players,
Speaker 1: criple of bloods or nothing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I would just have been a g able to go
Speaker 1: away over folk with whoever about making some money. Let's
Speaker 1: make some money. Well, I love it here. How you
Speaker 1: did that to go on somebody else neighborhood, just fresh
Speaker 1: off the bus, out the car and then pull up
Speaker 1: and start slanging. Now you open up shop. I knew
Speaker 1: you had a lot of enemies trying to do that.
Speaker 1: Then when you bring that work and you're making it
Speaker 1: making sure everybody eat, they loved you from out of town. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what it was you you were passing it and
Speaker 1: looking out for everybody. Yeah, I had him working. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I made sure that when I got on the block,
Speaker 1: I finally who's really making it, who're doing it? I
Speaker 1: put him in and make sure he put anybody else in.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, I'm gonna be out
Speaker 1: there too, gonna get mine, but we all what you need.
Speaker 1: You know, No, I don't know what up he go.
Speaker 1: And I ain't just busting out ahead all the time
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying. So I know
Speaker 1: how to finess my way in the game with motherfucker's
Speaker 1: and people and ship you know what. They're not trying
Speaker 1: to come in and strong on them and just take over.
Speaker 1: And like I'm now, I get on. But if if
Speaker 1: I don't have to, and I can get this money
Speaker 1: quite as possible and move on, that's what I do,
Speaker 1: smart man. That's the best way right there, That's the
Speaker 1: best way to get down. So what was your spots?
Speaker 1: Try what parts? You know that's a long time ago
Speaker 1: stacks with limitations. Where were you allegedly at with different
Speaker 1: spots when you can move with your hot spots all
Speaker 1: over all over Jackson Money of photo author south side
Speaker 1: north side of the southwest side. I just go way over, man,
Speaker 1: cause you know, you know, I just my nuts, hunting
Speaker 1: my stocks. But I know I had a good mouthpiece,
Speaker 1: and I know a treat people and talk to people
Speaker 1: and make sure we got that money. It was. It
Speaker 1: was all great. But when you come over another neighborhood
Speaker 1: or somewhere else, sometimes they know of you, you know,
Speaker 1: saying people heard, oh I heard a litty yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that's such such, So they'd be like, all right, what
Speaker 1: the name got going on? And when I put this
Speaker 1: present this money to him, probably gonna make this money together. Hey, everything,
Speaker 1: you gotta go out the wonder. And at the time,
Speaker 1: you know, Bloods and Chris one't real real big downhill,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So we didn't really have
Speaker 1: that's sick that said like you can't go over here
Speaker 1: cause you're gonna blue. You can't go you're all ready.
Speaker 1: We didn't. It wasn't that bad when I first jumped
Speaker 1: in the game back in the day, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I just stayed new to the whole time.
Speaker 1: So right now you can be at my house. Back
Speaker 1: then at my studio I have blood encryption the house.
Speaker 1: At the same time, we all hustling together. Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: starting no ship and they know him new to when
Speaker 1: you come fuck with me. Hey, it's all about money
Speaker 1: and we we o g we make this money, alright,
Speaker 1: We hustles. And the where I cared myself the whole
Speaker 1: entire time I disrespect them, didn't disrespect me. They showed
Speaker 1: me love. That's how I just wrote. Man, I still
Speaker 1: rode that way right now today. Yeah, well, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this. Let me ask you this big dog.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the crips and the bloods. Not know they
Speaker 1: both deep down the Texas, all through Texas anything now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're deep through Texas. When did you know this week
Speaker 1: we year, did you notice, um the gangs like that
Speaker 1: starting to infiltrate like Texas Like nineties three DNA Danny
Speaker 1: three named fold, They really getting real deep down there.
Speaker 1: Then nine four my brother he was a five dude
Speaker 1: who you know what I'm saying, And uh, he went
Speaker 1: to prison at ninety two and I went to NATY one.
Speaker 1: He went in NY two and I got out of
Speaker 1: name the three you the five dudes who and all this?
Speaker 1: Who were friends Sam that all little big boys that
Speaker 1: was that was non ranked up. When I come home,
Speaker 1: you know they don't. They was like, man, your brothers
Speaker 1: don't put in so much work with us. Bro, whatever
Speaker 1: you need, man, you just holler. Man, you got us. Man,
Speaker 1: I said, y'all, y'all know all players, I ain't like
Speaker 1: dying now. O G. You don't made your way already
Speaker 1: it Bro, you ain't got to. I said, I find
Speaker 1: in You know what I'm saying. My brother right now
Speaker 1: still still locked up from anti nin to them their
Speaker 1: life Simmons. You know they got life Simmons right now.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's already that man, like so many of us,
Speaker 1: man locked in them cages. Dog. And you know now
Speaker 1: when that first came down there did that mediant even
Speaker 1: resistance because I remember, like, um, and this is going
Speaker 1: back first, I'm richly from Cleveland and Cleveland what happened
Speaker 1: with us. It was a whole bunch of l a
Speaker 1: cats that came now and it was funny. It was
Speaker 1: like all the Bloods came into Accoring, Ohio. All the
Speaker 1: crips went in to Cleveland, which is the biggest city,
Speaker 1: but the Bloods kind of locked down them smaller little
Speaker 1: cities around, you know, around the big cities. Like they
Speaker 1: wouldn't go into Columbus. They would be on in Bath,
Speaker 1: Ohio or somewhere Dating, Ohio like the other little all
Speaker 1: bringing places. But I know there's more of them started
Speaker 1: coming through. Did they come down here on the hustling too?
Speaker 1: That came out of husband? You know we didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I ain't never. I have not one time, And my
Speaker 1: whole entire life got into it with a blood or
Speaker 1: crypt in. My whole entire life of being out in
Speaker 1: these streets and not being in the streets. Not one
Speaker 1: time they came down there. They were like more they
Speaker 1: started what they were doing, but they respect us hustling
Speaker 1: cause we were more ahtown. He was down there hustling together.
Speaker 1: You know that we're gonna hustle from take work the
Speaker 1: different side of the town. They said, town, come get
Speaker 1: work or whatever. We wouldn't. We weren't on on that
Speaker 1: at the time. You know what I'm saying for us,
Speaker 1: Me and my click and my crew, the niggers I
Speaker 1: funk with. We wasn't worrying about red or blue. Let's
Speaker 1: get this green. There was never an issue with me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I guess I got blessed
Speaker 1: to be one of the ones that never had an
Speaker 1: issue with nobody like that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: for us, no, no, no game filiated. Well to be real,
Speaker 1: you know, the be honest with you and James, you
Speaker 1: pably could attested this. Usually the guys to get caught
Speaker 1: up in the guys to be out there and then
Speaker 1: some ship they ain't got no business into anyway, cash
Speaker 1: that used to remain new for the mind and their
Speaker 1: own they really don't have too much to worry about. Often, well,
Speaker 1: a lot of this ship came when the homies just
Speaker 1: started bringing homies out there just to kick it. Them
Speaker 1: the ones that was hanging out and going to the
Speaker 1: stove start and ship with other people. They were not
Speaker 1: there selling ope for nothing. They just out there to
Speaker 1: kick it. But they and then they wind up living there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, because it's
Speaker 1: totally different from being in the hood. See, in the hood,
Speaker 1: you couldn't get away with all that ship. You go
Speaker 1: out of town, like going to Denver. You know, when
Speaker 1: we went to Denver, you know, it was some homies
Speaker 1: out there that shouldn't have been out there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So he bringing I bring two cats
Speaker 1: to the homies to come and kick you down. He
Speaker 1: bringing two of the homies to come kick it. Now
Speaker 1: they're just hanging out doing their thing, you know, the
Speaker 1: game banging thing, and that kind of sucked it up.
Speaker 1: If if if the hustlers and stayed hustling and left
Speaker 1: the homies way to yet, the game would have been,
Speaker 1: it would have stayed tighter, because it seems like Troy
Speaker 1: had this ship wrapped up tight. Because you don't you
Speaker 1: an't even had to go out of town. Need y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all just go around Texas and be good, go around texting,
Speaker 1: be good. You know. Then? Uh, I had a group
Speaker 1: from Kansas City right called Mask One the Seven. Um
Speaker 1: they were cryps, you know what I'm saying, And they
Speaker 1: ride around the k C ship on all down here
Speaker 1: and stuff. I had to get them straight. Hell up, man,
Speaker 1: I respect what y'all got going on, y'all signing my label,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna hustle. I'm o g in this game, man.
Speaker 1: I we don't just go trip called. They got on
Speaker 1: rail or they got on Grail, they got on ONNGE
Speaker 1: or whatever, so y'all be with me, and you see
Speaker 1: the dudes come around, don't y'all start tripping. They're gonna
Speaker 1: respect that y'all. They're gonna respect y'all too, because who
Speaker 1: I am. They ain't gonna just starting no ship. They
Speaker 1: know we're gonna have a big old following out if
Speaker 1: they do. So I had a group that was that
Speaker 1: was crypt and I remem I'm going to Kansas City
Speaker 1: with him. You know what, They ain't going promote in
Speaker 1: Kansas City and go to the club. One side of
Speaker 1: the one side of the club is all all crypt,
Speaker 1: uther side of all Blood. When they're gonna dance for
Speaker 1: their dance and they go back to the side of
Speaker 1: the top they side of the club, and I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 1: what the hell out getting money like this? You know,
Speaker 1: I come down there to get some money. I brought
Speaker 1: some work with me to go for mothe for y'all
Speaker 1: and for me to hook up with everybody and down
Speaker 1: in the city. But I just got me a new
Speaker 1: new trash spot down there in Kansas City and ship right,
Speaker 1: you know, we ain't having Crooked City and all this.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh man, this ain't gonna work. Bro.
Speaker 1: We need make some neutrics type ship and it didn't
Speaker 1: really work. It did, It did all right, you know
Speaker 1: what saying. But I noticed that at that between the times.
Speaker 1: It was in like ninety six when I signed them
Speaker 1: in a six ain't sell when I and then when
Speaker 1: I signed a major label to signed to major label,
Speaker 1: they was having the issues and stiff called they couldn't
Speaker 1: go everywhere you know what they called when they go
Speaker 1: they're flagging, and where they go they're flagging totally. So
Speaker 1: now I go with them. We're going up as another side,
Speaker 1: the other side of town and stuff. Mothercker knew I was,
Speaker 1: They're like Detroit. They your boys tripping, I said, Now, many,
Speaker 1: that's just what they're They're different Kansas City, Broy. They
Speaker 1: just done it with me, made my group. They're good.
Speaker 1: They're good, I mean, but I had to really talk
Speaker 1: to a lot of other people because they thought they
Speaker 1: were flagging. You know, if you're flagging, you bought about it,
Speaker 1: you know. And to the day, I have never learned
Speaker 1: that one of their game signs. Now, I can't throw up,
Speaker 1: not one sign. And I had some crips with me
Speaker 1: as my as my uh my artists out of signed
Speaker 1: the lay, I don't signed a deal with the people
Speaker 1: out of New York. We're getting money. But I didn't
Speaker 1: never let them what they were doing dragged me into
Speaker 1: what they had going on. I never let what they
Speaker 1: were doing dragged me into. I feel like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna drag all over on my side. One man as
Speaker 1: being a hustler, that where we can go what we
Speaker 1: wanted to go and do what we need to do.
Speaker 1: But that I felt that a little bit when I
Speaker 1: had that group, wasn't that I did. Never. I never
Speaker 1: had no issues. No were Hey, let's pay some bills
Speaker 1: real quick and we get right back to y'all. All right,
Speaker 1: So you are there hustling and doing your thing. You see,
Speaker 1: if you went and sat, I don't do to be
Speaker 1: the ninety one, right, yeah, ninety one, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: did a bid ninety one? Come back in ninety three,
Speaker 1: and that's when you came out, And that's when Short
Speaker 1: Start Records really start cracking and doing anything. Right. No,
Speaker 1: I first I went to jail, already put our scar
Speaker 1: face for then. So you had already put our star
Speaker 1: face and went to jail and came back out and
Speaker 1: jump in the game again. Yeah, I went to jail
Speaker 1: and then eight and nine. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, I put star faces at eight and nine.
Speaker 1: I want to jail to niny one and uh now
Speaker 1: I come back. In ninety three, I was by myself.
Speaker 1: My brothers done over, like my little Histan gangster at
Speaker 1: the same time, you know what I'm saying. So then
Speaker 1: I started doing that when I put out masks when
Speaker 1: they're seven, you know, And I put out another little
Speaker 1: group and stuff and ain't the six and ain't seven.
Speaker 1: Then I was like, fund this, man, this ain't work.
Speaker 1: I gotta put myself out. Tell you what I put
Speaker 1: myself out in night sitting fat down South, I said,
Speaker 1: I put myself on the cuff. I got an age
Speaker 1: five hundred, big old Mercedes beings Coop, I got rolegs,
Speaker 1: I got Jerry, I got the money and people know
Speaker 1: who I am. So what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do my own album. Well I did my own album
Speaker 1: and then then I put um everybody out of the
Speaker 1: neighborhood on my album and it popped off called I
Speaker 1: wasn't never was afraid to go nowhere and promote my ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, when when I had the
Speaker 1: other groups, they can't go everywhere cause they're flagging and
Speaker 1: where they go, you know what saying? So I can
Speaker 1: go to in the car watch, in the brewers shop
Speaker 1: in the hood neighborhood. I jumped out into my big
Speaker 1: old callac or or my my coop Mercedes Beings, and
Speaker 1: I got CDs, I got concepts, and I got all
Speaker 1: this ship. I'm selling ship every motherfucking day, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was hustling. I took the game
Speaker 1: from selling rocks to sellers. First, I thought, I said
Speaker 1: the cassette tapes when I had scared face, and you
Speaker 1: know what, and and and to be real with you,
Speaker 1: sitting fat down South with your label's biggest selling EP
Speaker 1: of LP of all time, whenn't, yeah, sitting fat down South?
Speaker 1: You know that? When I put that one of the
Speaker 1: ball and all the other songs on there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But that was me just putting other
Speaker 1: people that know how to wrap out my city on
Speaker 1: with me and let me go promote it. Let me
Speaker 1: be the face instead of me putting somebody else on
Speaker 1: the face. And then they don't want to leave their high.
Speaker 1: They don't only leave their gal and they don't want
Speaker 1: to go promote. And I'm in the clubs every night.
Speaker 1: I'm in the hood every day. Every day I'm leaving
Speaker 1: out the house. I got a bunch of wax. I
Speaker 1: was selling wax at one time. To see the twelve
Speaker 1: inch vinyl, I just said twelve in vinyl and cast
Speaker 1: on the cone in the hood. Then when I didn't
Speaker 1: sit fat down south, I put it out. And then
Speaker 1: I called a case in eight right case. And so
Speaker 1: I come back and said, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tip of this album out. I put the album out,
Speaker 1: and while I'm fighting the case and fair case and
Speaker 1: ship the album pop off. I thought. While he was
Speaker 1: fighting the case, fighting the case, so come no room
Speaker 1: signed for some time now he is, I got a
Speaker 1: video playing on BT song playing and everything. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when I had them to give
Speaker 1: me some maxture time and I went on and got
Speaker 1: the promoted right kept it going. So and I shot
Speaker 1: a moving while I was gone. Before I left, I
Speaker 1: shot a moving in twel days. I saw my parts
Speaker 1: in fol days, so I let somebody let my people
Speaker 1: don't put the movie, and I went sat down in
Speaker 1: in January. In the d similar January Decemblary went to jail.
Speaker 1: I sat down there. Uh, you didn't had eighteen months
Speaker 1: come home when I signed with Universal. You didn't go
Speaker 1: major till you came home. Yeah, I didn't know that
Speaker 1: I signed a deal with him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I signed to deal with the jail, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: go promote or do nothing. But it already had legs.
Speaker 1: You know what they called turning drapead car and say
Speaker 1: made the people down in New York looking for you, Bro.
Speaker 1: I said, we're looking for my t He's a man
Speaker 1: universe Rugg trying to sign you. I said, Man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to jail, bro. He said, Man, they were
Speaker 1: trying to holt you, Bro. So uh he put on
Speaker 1: the phone with a month of living them. Then they
Speaker 1: flew down the next day because I had a show
Speaker 1: I was doing, still doing shows. I went to jail.
Speaker 1: They came down holiday means flew me to New York.
Speaker 1: The next day. I did a deal with him, and
Speaker 1: then I came back home. And the one later I
Speaker 1: went I went to jail. Did you tell him? Did
Speaker 1: you tell them? White folks? She was going to jail
Speaker 1: when you went down there and signed that paper with them. Now,
Speaker 1: did I know I ain't telling them. I know I
Speaker 1: ain't know exactly what I was gonna get you, So
Speaker 1: I ain't I need to tell y'all. Not time I
Speaker 1: get this trade. Not you know what I'm saying, ain't
Speaker 1: no wrong with that. You when you say I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get this check before I go to jail, they
Speaker 1: ain't gonna know that I'm gonna get this check and
Speaker 1: maybe gonna figure it out. They're trying to play me
Speaker 1: at first, though. They ain't think I knew. I din't
Speaker 1: know anything. I knew to new the paperwork and new
Speaker 1: the business. You know that. They flew me to New
Speaker 1: York by myself, but I caught my lot in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: He he flew, he throw the train down there. We
Speaker 1: end up going old paperwork and they see me reading
Speaker 1: everything in line for line, line for line, line for line,
Speaker 1: and I don't like this. Just don't take this out,
Speaker 1: take this out, take this out. I mean, they were
Speaker 1: tripping to see my law. You're not doing all that,
Speaker 1: and I was doing it. But I've been reading books
Speaker 1: about the business. You know. Then when I go to
Speaker 1: take a ship. I said, don't read a book. Well,
Speaker 1: I need on the count the husts for a little bit.
Speaker 1: I go to then read the book. We don't have
Speaker 1: the internet then, so I had to learn the business.
Speaker 1: So when so I went to jail, I called him
Speaker 1: about four months before I started getting out of jail
Speaker 1: right and say, y'all, look here, I think, get out
Speaker 1: of jail. We need to start the big baller shot
Speaker 1: called the walk to Walk, Talk to Talk, fresh off lock.
Speaker 1: We need to start doing all this, get some ship
Speaker 1: going on, you know what saying. They was like, nah, trouble.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to wait till you come home and
Speaker 1: all this ship is. I came home, my amost fun
Speaker 1: with him no more. Oh so you just told to
Speaker 1: give you a release? Yeah, living high Toya played this time. Right.
Speaker 1: When I come home, I tell munch of you don't
Speaker 1: think eight months here go my album coup. I want
Speaker 1: to put my album And he said, yub Man, we
Speaker 1: need to uh just my release date. He said, trub
Speaker 1: we can't get you no release date too. We hear
Speaker 1: the music. I said, what you mean you need to
Speaker 1: hear the music? He say, well, they ain't all the
Speaker 1: department need to hear what you're gonna put out. I said,
Speaker 1: hell up out my I'm on. I'm the A and R.
Speaker 1: When y'all heard my album was always already out selling,
Speaker 1: and that that's why y'all came to me. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna send my music down there and let somebody
Speaker 1: hear my music and tip what they like. That's not
Speaker 1: what that's not what's gonna happen, you know. So they
Speaker 1: didn't want to give me h release date. I said,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna just put this mother out my
Speaker 1: goddamn self. Month to come on. Now, you're trying to
Speaker 1: stop my liblihood. So he said, you know what you're
Speaker 1: we don't make some money to goods. You've been great
Speaker 1: artists and no problem with you. I'm gonna release you.
Speaker 1: I said, cool. So he released me the next day.
Speaker 1: The two days later, I wait, I say, monthy, I
Speaker 1: call him any money. They ain't trub what's going on?
Speaker 1: You're coming back? I said, Now, I ain't get that
Speaker 1: check yet. He said what check? I say that pay?
Speaker 1: He play check for one fifty? He say what? I said,
Speaker 1: look in the contract, y'all put my next album. You
Speaker 1: gotta not you gotta give me one fifty and you
Speaker 1: still gotta pay me, he said, let me call you back.
Speaker 1: He hung up. T Hey, trys in the mill you
Speaker 1: had tomorrow. I had a pair of play uh in
Speaker 1: the contract and then put my album out. They had
Speaker 1: to pay me. Now that's some cold ship right there.
Speaker 1: So I got one fifty from him just to let
Speaker 1: me off. Let me off they label. Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: I'm correct, that next ship you put out blew up,
Speaker 1: didn't it? Now? I didn't do the world tracing blew up.
Speaker 1: I put that. I put the album I with Cots
Speaker 1: when the Cots and got the sixty farter deal. So
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna really get paid. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get paid paid. So for the album came,
Speaker 1: I sip team and levem to talk uh and then
Speaker 1: up everything. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: rest in peace to all the people in fact that
Speaker 1: because we're not laughing at that day. Ladies in general
Speaker 1: were laughing at the sixth pastion he was in because
Speaker 1: everybody to put a record out that week, flock everybody,
Speaker 1: the last person. It was a bunch of us. There
Speaker 1: was a bunch of us that put the record out
Speaker 1: of the day. There's a bunch up that job. I
Speaker 1: can't think anybody names, but it was a bunch of
Speaker 1: a bunch of albums that put out that day, and
Speaker 1: everything that went with Salt, you know what saying. And
Speaker 1: and and then my my business, it took me under
Speaker 1: cause when I got a side of the Cotch, I
Speaker 1: had a big old ass like a little mansion, not
Speaker 1: now a little manti down the mansion. Really all the
Speaker 1: calls I wanted and say, that is the three my
Speaker 1: safes being the Cadilliac, the vans I had navigated, had everything,
Speaker 1: all the jey I want. So now this this deal
Speaker 1: with Cotch, I'm getting sixty four to the deal. I
Speaker 1: can you know what I say, relaxing and you know,
Speaker 1: you know, kick back now. But ship when that, when
Speaker 1: that happened, that that made me go on the ground.
Speaker 1: I mean that took took a lot of people out
Speaker 1: of business. I just never jumped off the building and
Speaker 1: killed myself. And the you know what saying, But my
Speaker 1: money drive up, when universal money drive up with Cotch,
Speaker 1: the money driver with saltwe's wholesale. We was all just
Speaker 1: like i'na about the Southwest holesale C James Southwest Hole
Speaker 1: Sale was a big distributor down there, you know, because
Speaker 1: New Chance, Texas was selling a bunch of records. Didn't
Speaker 1: have to war to Texas. Then motherfucker's that filed bankruptcy
Speaker 1: and all I remember his motherfucker's calling my line that day.
Speaker 1: Talk about, man, these motherfucker's don't give me my money.
Speaker 1: Somethings gonna happen. You remember that day with Southwest so
Speaker 1: Stale like filed the bankruptcy ship and Nick closed the doors.
Speaker 1: Look before they closed though. Right now I'm saying that
Speaker 1: made am like a half million dollars sucking with him
Speaker 1: right on one bill bawling. And then when I still
Speaker 1: had about I think twenty some dollin records still sitting
Speaker 1: on the ground, as I was said, when the university
Speaker 1: came in and picked me up. I made a deal
Speaker 1: with them and let me see about my color first,
Speaker 1: for y'all put your ship out. I got some moment
Speaker 1: out there here, cold motherfucker Troit. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: because you gotta bringing business mind, do you ever consult?
Speaker 1: Because I noticed it's very few of the artists in
Speaker 1: Houston wind up getting sucked over it. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a few open that do. But you don't hear a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of them horror stories. Do you use the game?
Speaker 1: The young homies up before they jump in the game. Man,
Speaker 1: they don't come ask you know what I'm saying, a
Speaker 1: cloth don't get fed. But a lot of them they
Speaker 1: don't feel by the wayside, you know, they ain't. They
Speaker 1: ain't get the money supposed to get the as then
Speaker 1: making money off a lot of this stuff they've been doing.
Speaker 1: It's just not publicized or nothing, like you said. You know, Man,
Speaker 1: if if they come and talk to me, I lay
Speaker 1: them up, you know you you know Universal Records almost
Speaker 1: have my master's Damn me like that, James. I'm just
Speaker 1: sitting there tripping there his brothers sitting there and and
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm on the other side where you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen the pimping going on. But the pimp and
Speaker 1: pimping is what I'm listening to right here. Actually getting
Speaker 1: your money when I when I gave you, when I
Speaker 1: gave you Universal to add I gave him a CD
Speaker 1: and they made copies off of it. You just so
Speaker 1: you just gave the albums you would already put out
Speaker 1: and saying, here, you're gonna press this ship. Make y'alls
Speaker 1: on copas. They can't. They can't remix not one song
Speaker 1: on my ship. I got the rills. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you this. So you didn't give them niggas none
Speaker 1: of the files get Troy, you know while we're laughing,
Speaker 1: because I love it, dog, you beat the motherfucker's that
Speaker 1: their own game pretty much, and you were so hot
Speaker 1: in the streets they couldn't do them, but accept it.
Speaker 1: They don't. They asked me why back for the reels
Speaker 1: and all that I gotta give him together. I got
Speaker 1: other songs on that I gotta transform, and I ain't
Speaker 1: never gave him ship, he said he gave and just
Speaker 1: let it go. Hey, what they're gonna come down and
Speaker 1: take it? No that I ain't gonna do it, you
Speaker 1: know what. So one thing I always wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: because you clarify something. Scar Face had the name Scarface
Speaker 1: before he went over the rapid lot. What made you
Speaker 1: decide like like when that happened, like you don't put
Speaker 1: all your time and invested your energy into this artist. Man.
Speaker 1: You say you were standing at your mom's house and
Speaker 1: then he comes to you want to go somewhere else?
Speaker 1: How was that? Was that a hard conversation? Yeah? Long,
Speaker 1: and I don't make Monther's Street. I had made no
Speaker 1: moment's car face music. Yet that wasn't no big deal,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was like ship, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I ain't dripping on that ship, go ahead, I get
Speaker 1: another artist. I care about that ship at the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then with a James
Speaker 1: girl and put it out. He called me and told me,
Speaker 1: you know, saying, he needs to ill at me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So he came and talked to him.
Speaker 1: I said, Jay, man, I ain't worrying about that man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Whatever you want to do
Speaker 1: with friends, you can do it. Phrase, I don't care
Speaker 1: about that. He said, look out, look out, try This
Speaker 1: is what I do for you. Once I get it popping,
Speaker 1: I get it going on, I'll come back and look
Speaker 1: out for you and give you some distribution to help
Speaker 1: you out some gunna weight. All right, how let me
Speaker 1: when you get the popping there. And I ain't trib me,
Speaker 1: but after right now today he never helped me out.
Speaker 1: Get I went to him for a favor, and he
Speaker 1: didn't give me the favor I asked for. Hey, what
Speaker 1: it is? I kept it popping, You just kept it moving.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, when the um when your
Speaker 1: song blew up? Want to be a baller blew up?
Speaker 1: Did he come front of Hill action everybody? Then they
Speaker 1: tried to get me to put my album, my song
Speaker 1: on on the RealAge Niggers Down South album when they
Speaker 1: came out, the realag Niggers Down South. They want to
Speaker 1: want to be a ball to be on that. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: y'all can't have my man, and so I don't like,
Speaker 1: give you one of the other songs the niggas a
Speaker 1: bitch in my book or something. I'll have one of
Speaker 1: them songs. But other than that, we ain't had no
Speaker 1: no ties together, no kind of way. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now you from now, you from South Park? Yeah,
Speaker 1: south side, south side, y'all have y'all used to have
Speaker 1: a lot of beef. Like I noticed down there in Texas.
Speaker 1: This used to be the north side against the south side.
Speaker 1: That ship used to jump off, didn't it. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: we still went to the clubs out there. You still
Speaker 1: wanted you still when the clubs, there was a lot
Speaker 1: of niggers getting their cars, taking all kinds of ship,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. Yeah, that were back in the day. But
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't never had nobody to take my car,
Speaker 1: try to take my call, trying to jack me nothing.
Speaker 1: You know, if I've never had that issue. Most of
Speaker 1: them knew me, you know what I'm saying, And they
Speaker 1: just got me to losing man back in the day.
Speaker 1: So you know I had that little little man that
Speaker 1: little man complex too. You feel the back nothing I have.
Speaker 1: I ain't had no big brother, so I'm my own
Speaker 1: big brother, you know what I'm saying. So we've made
Speaker 1: it through all that ship like this like that, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, because I went to I said, James, ain't
Speaker 1: looking at man. Look, I got a couple of bricks
Speaker 1: to the side. Bro, I'll do a mask and might say, Man,
Speaker 1: give me sending the five thousand and I'll pay you back.
Speaker 1: Ain't no contracts and nothing, just allowing me the money.
Speaker 1: And that way I can have some money just to
Speaker 1: keep on flash. And I had a couple of bricks,
Speaker 1: need to get rid of here and there and ship.
Speaker 1: But he said, I say, I need some money and
Speaker 1: I need some contacts. He's a ship contact, more than
Speaker 1: poor than the money. You So just like that. I
Speaker 1: don't forget that, man. I think we'll give me both
Speaker 1: the man, we'll talk about it, you know what they
Speaker 1: But at the time, I think I went here to
Speaker 1: lick or something, and you know, I'm saying I ain't
Speaker 1: need it, so I know back, I know when I
Speaker 1: never really went back and pursued it and asking forward,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was all good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know Troy and the thing it was, man, everybody
Speaker 1: out talked to tell me what it real cats you
Speaker 1: WHI was man and me just I was just sitting
Speaker 1: there for the talk to you. Man. It's refreshing to
Speaker 1: be able to talk to a motherfucker that actually got
Speaker 1: some backbone to him, you know what I mean. Yeah, appreciate, appreciate,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And um, so you having
Speaker 1: all this success going on, you did another standing shield,
Speaker 1: didn't you. I just did that one and the fast
Speaker 1: thing that when I got the fair, they ain't been back.
Speaker 1: So you've been living clean since then? Man, with all
Speaker 1: this stuff going on, and like, um, with all the
Speaker 1: stuff that's going on like in Houston right now and
Speaker 1: in Dallas, like all the killing and stuff that's going on. Man,
Speaker 1: what you think about that down there? You think these
Speaker 1: cats just influenced to influenced by what's going on TV
Speaker 1: and everywhere else. They too, They to influenced by something.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the funking is, because we just
Speaker 1: wouldn't killing each other like that at the time. You
Speaker 1: know that, well I didn't. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You can't fuck with me. You're gonna get the business.
Speaker 1: That's just That's just it, you know I sing. But
Speaker 1: other than that, I'm trying to make some money with you.
Speaker 1: I don't give it down. Where are you from? What's
Speaker 1: going on? This makes some money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When I was locked up, I was looking out my mother.
Speaker 1: When I was locked up in the fair and ship,
Speaker 1: I'm looking out for mother down in the faces. I'm
Speaker 1: looking out for niggers that I got in the world,
Speaker 1: keeping them popping called that. You know, I was a
Speaker 1: manazed source, so I still was able to, you know,
Speaker 1: make things happen for him while I was didding the
Speaker 1: fas and ship. You know what I'm saying, And um.
Speaker 1: Then I had money coming in from the Universal to
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was, I was
Speaker 1: good and too scoff frace suit me. I get the letter,
Speaker 1: my lawyer come, my lawyer and my wife, well, my girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Rather the time they come to the feens, I said,
Speaker 1: damn Waring, what you're doing here, Papa? I got something
Speaker 1: the bad news for you? I said, what too many
Speaker 1: bad news? What's going on? Scoff Frey suing you? I
Speaker 1: said for what? He said, Well, he's suing you for
Speaker 1: a half million dollars because you put that that song
Speaker 1: that you did with him on your album and you
Speaker 1: use his vocals. I say, man, then they've suing me
Speaker 1: for real. Once to say, man, they suing you man?
Speaker 1: And so I worked to deal out with scoff phrase.
Speaker 1: I gave him two and twenty dollars you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, off the album Universal pay them
Speaker 1: on my behalf and then you know I got out.
Speaker 1: You know, me and him may have some little issues
Speaker 1: and ship going around for a little while. And know Beef,
Speaker 1: it was like on TV type beef on wax Beef.
Speaker 1: We wein't there. We never had no issue. When we've
Speaker 1: seen each other or nothing like that, you know, and
Speaker 1: now today that we're good friends. You know, we talked
Speaker 1: every couple of weeks. Oh see each other. We laugh
Speaker 1: and talk about it and all that. Still, but you know,
Speaker 1: when he sued me, I was piste off like a
Speaker 1: motherfucker two and twin thought not said. We didn't need
Speaker 1: to give his bit of condo. It was just a
Speaker 1: piece of condo about all calls something. They gotta help you.
Speaker 1: I got your start, and now you want to sue
Speaker 1: me because I put sample your voice on the songs
Speaker 1: of mine. You know what I'm saying. You want to
Speaker 1: sue me? Yeah, but I sell it with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know it. What's good to hear thold man
Speaker 1: that y'all both grown me in Abu and y'all put
Speaker 1: that ship behind y'all and y'all kicking it. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Oh, we took ten years. It took
Speaker 1: over ten years, old folk, before we started kicking it. Though.
Speaker 1: We were beefing, and we would be from talking about
Speaker 1: your own songs and and podcasts and everything else for
Speaker 1: a good while. It went down. So he actually got
Speaker 1: you out of your character. He took you out of character.
Speaker 1: No they no, No, he didn't take me out of
Speaker 1: character calls. It had been one of us would have
Speaker 1: been here. I feel you, feel you. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: knew I couldn't wrap against scoff He made songs by men.
Speaker 1: You know that they're talking about men and stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's cool. I made a DVD about them. I put
Speaker 1: a DVD out on them. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know how to win the game. Now. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: win a fight. I might not win the way you
Speaker 1: wanted to play the play the game. I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: the game how I know how to win the game. No,
Speaker 1: since sin since you are good friends now and this
Speaker 1: is all stuck this out in the public record. I
Speaker 1: never got to see the dvd. What was on the dvd? Oh, man, boy,
Speaker 1: I look at paperwork. It was called paperwork. A friend
Speaker 1: of mine, I adin't know, a little nigga guy out
Speaker 1: of jail, and um Scoffrey was on this paperwork and
Speaker 1: he can't hell mean little short say man, here is
Speaker 1: Coffred and no talking about you, bro. I'm from I'm
Speaker 1: from Softwolk where you are, bro? Hey, look at the
Speaker 1: papers right here, man, don't let them get away with it.
Speaker 1: And I seen the paper and read it. I was like, whoa, Okay,
Speaker 1: hold up, got my angle back now because I can't
Speaker 1: have wrap face. Ain't too many mother's round you're gonna
Speaker 1: wrap face period on a record time y'all put a
Speaker 1: DVD I at the time, and and and and and
Speaker 1: with with a with a soundtrack to it, and I
Speaker 1: had the motherucker people so scared to look at it,
Speaker 1: people like I don't want to see that about I
Speaker 1: don't want to see that's that's too real. It was
Speaker 1: too real. Record store, some of the recortoes didn't want
Speaker 1: to pick it up. Dudes are like tripping, how the
Speaker 1: fund you get this? What's fun? I mean that was
Speaker 1: tripping on how I put a DVD together and told
Speaker 1: the whole life story with me and face in my
Speaker 1: life and everything on a DVD and with the paperwork
Speaker 1: and ship. Oh man, I will go out of town
Speaker 1: if I find out he was doing the show. I
Speaker 1: would go out of town. Where you're gonna do a
Speaker 1: show to pass our flyers and stuff? Look who's talking?
Speaker 1: Scared face of the GETT boys to give it these
Speaker 1: you stabbing me? And you know what's cold that he
Speaker 1: was stabbing. Not only that he wouldn't have made some
Speaker 1: money off the beef. He's setting strategem make some money
Speaker 1: off this. But they are y'are the friends now, y'all?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He came back and trying to
Speaker 1: suit me and stuff and everything again. And we we
Speaker 1: met up and talked and we we were boys. Now
Speaker 1: I can talk about the ship now, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It ain't no problem, you know, you know, uh.
Speaker 1: I used must say nothing about it too much because
Speaker 1: we're boys, not this ship behind us. But that's the
Speaker 1: point our history, no history. You can't notot you can't
Speaker 1: omit history. That's cool. And you know that that's all
Speaker 1: water under the bridge. I feel I can cause that
Speaker 1: on the phone right now. Yeah, have the phone about birthing.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna say, you know what I'm saying. And we
Speaker 1: laugh and talk. We did facing Willie did a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, facing my Li brother talk
Speaker 1: on the phone all the time from prison. My brother
Speaker 1: got may my Li brothers will lie down. I need
Speaker 1: to put this ad on the phone, like y'all. This
Speaker 1: day got a big old thirty five is TV hanging
Speaker 1: from the burglar balls covered on the floor. Everything in prison,
Speaker 1: headphones is radio, his cell phone and everything right now.
Speaker 1: And see if I get him on the phone, that's
Speaker 1: how I really uh man, man, my brothers will lie
Speaker 1: down there, man. Chronicles exclusive, y'all guys, the chronicles that
Speaker 1: they know what I'm saying here, krip, What's I'm saying?
Speaker 1: He plays when he was, he played, he was seven teams.
Speaker 1: He's something and he's still he all just I'm doing active.
Speaker 1: He tried to talk to him about life now called
Speaker 1: he's much older and stuff. But he all of them
Speaker 1: know him, you know, everybody know him in the prison.
Speaker 1: I mean, he just like that. We're texting right queck.
Speaker 1: He gonna get the phone though, you know he don't
Speaker 1: call right back over and call right back. WHI y'all here, week,
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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, man, we're talking about Houston,
Speaker 1: is there a divide between Houston and Dallas? Because it
Speaker 1: seemed like Dallas like a whole different Damn state. When
Speaker 1: you hold the culture, the whole coach is different. Dallas
Speaker 1: there using like two different states. That's like northern California
Speaker 1: and southern California. It's like two different states. You know that.
Speaker 1: We don't fix all calls up like they fixed their
Speaker 1: calls up. We don't drink like they dress. We don't
Speaker 1: have no how culs like they. Well, we don't drink,
Speaker 1: you know, we drink serve and shit down here. How
Speaker 1: we started that ship down here? They don't do that
Speaker 1: ship down and data up there and Dallas like we
Speaker 1: do here. You know what? But now, well we tried,
Speaker 1: Dallas niggas try to come out and do songs with
Speaker 1: certain Houston niggas and stuff, trying to get on, but
Speaker 1: it's never made nothing pop. I don't know why. It's
Speaker 1: just never been a big Dallas Houston connect And they're
Speaker 1: doing a bunch of shows and songs together and all that.
Speaker 1: It just ain't never just popped off on a while time.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. You know you mentioned that, sirup Man, And
Speaker 1: it's a big opiate epidemic in the country. Man. There's
Speaker 1: people like especially in the Midwest and the South dog
Speaker 1: and he should even know here people is on them peels. Now,
Speaker 1: what do you think about that whole serup scene? Do
Speaker 1: you think that, like, what do you think about that?
Speaker 1: Because it was a big part of the culture, man,
Speaker 1: and that ship when Nation wid Yeah, I was one
Speaker 1: of the ones that will put it out there, Troy,
Speaker 1: don't give a funk doing I don't want I want
Speaker 1: the man one that that was that was a contribut that. Hey,
Speaker 1: but I wouldet it. Bro Well, I've been hanging out
Speaker 1: with you. Would be a motherfucker just hanging out with
Speaker 1: you a mother laugh. Oh, dog, we go to Houston,
Speaker 1: Troy will be our host. Dog. I don't want to
Speaker 1: nobody else with him. Man, I had to connect with it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we did it, man,
Speaker 1: I say, we did it, man. And it was nothing
Speaker 1: for us to have two three hundred gallons at the time.
Speaker 1: Two gallons and how much that should go? How much
Speaker 1: is a four? How much do gallons like? Eighteen hundred
Speaker 1: hundred gallons at the time, gallony that should be about
Speaker 1: about now? About we engaged the crowning was we're adding
Speaker 1: up drug show. No, I'm sorry, man, you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: This is just a leg that what it was back then.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I tell many of you
Speaker 1: ain't cast me back then. You missed me. You shot
Speaker 1: straight with shot late. You know I'm saying, because I
Speaker 1: ain't been involved in none of nothing, nothing illegal and
Speaker 1: ship since I got out of prison back then when
Speaker 1: I dropped the got out from them from dropping sitting
Speaker 1: fed down south. You know what I'm saying. I ain't
Speaker 1: involved with nobody at all. But I did tell I
Speaker 1: tell you this. I bought some laying up in susan
Speaker 1: Uh Suserville, California, right for the acres and put me
Speaker 1: sitting two plants in the ground down it right, So
Speaker 1: you jumped in the weed business then, yeah, and they
Speaker 1: made me jump right back at the police called police
Speaker 1: called me my son sent my son down there to
Speaker 1: learn how to cultivate. So you're done, then learn how
Speaker 1: to cultivate. And know I got all I'm paid by
Speaker 1: all the seeds of saw everything. We got plants in
Speaker 1: the ground. Send the two plants. Police flew the helicopter
Speaker 1: over and seeing that we've seen uh plants on the
Speaker 1: ground coming up, they called me, called my name is
Speaker 1: on the deeds of the land. They called me, asked
Speaker 1: me that I know somebody my property. You know, grown
Speaker 1: mel I wanna, yep, we got all proposition three for whatever.
Speaker 1: The proposition was that that we had to have a
Speaker 1: grown male. Wanna, I said, we got it. She said, well, um,
Speaker 1: I see that you don't have a dwelling house on
Speaker 1: the property and a fit the foot well. I said, well,
Speaker 1: we're working on that right now. So I go and
Speaker 1: find uh a mobile home. I bought them mobile home.
Speaker 1: But that's the saying day I get it. I called
Speaker 1: the people trying to get the whale. Did fitting for
Speaker 1: Well Doug? I can't get the well? Doug said, ain't
Speaker 1: giving no permits. Oh so that sounds like the whole
Speaker 1: little play. They got a whole little place everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how they shut me down. Then everybody else would
Speaker 1: have been doing it. You've just seen mobile homes and
Speaker 1: whales all over that month. But see, now, if I
Speaker 1: knew that we need a fitting for Well Doug, I
Speaker 1: could have dug the wellow time I got on the property.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was already there when
Speaker 1: I got there. I could even said that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, before I started playing out. You know,
Speaker 1: I take a water, get off, get your plane, start
Speaker 1: growing and get big. I could have been dug dug
Speaker 1: a well, but they never said that. And so my
Speaker 1: boy my son then went to the to the town
Speaker 1: hall meeting. Some people was cussing like a motherfucker everybody
Speaker 1: up there and through the red they've been selling men
Speaker 1: wanted to be growing it all these years. They never
Speaker 1: had to have a fitting for the well. Doug. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what they're saying that. I was looking at
Speaker 1: some ship the other day on TV and they're seeing
Speaker 1: men that they each them people so much with this ship. Man,
Speaker 1: people going out of business. Dog. They said, it's forcing
Speaker 1: motherfucker's to where if you ain't got no street connects
Speaker 1: with the ship and steal hustle inside, you can out
Speaker 1: of business. They worked for them, man, Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: They're making it to where a lot of people that's
Speaker 1: been in Big James family owned businesses to go back
Speaker 1: generations where that's what the grandpa did. That's just what
Speaker 1: they do. He said, Man, they thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: be better. They pushed for bigg position. They said that
Speaker 1: ship putting them almost making them homeless. They showed knock
Speaker 1: knocked me at the box on a nice mind of
Speaker 1: land and you know, getting up them staying out there,
Speaker 1: living out my son, my son is a rapper head.
Speaker 1: Just not told him a man. Dad on something else?
Speaker 1: Right now, go down in California, still on this property
Speaker 1: during How the coulde? They're gonna be our kids kids
Speaker 1: kids kids feature you know what I'm saying. So he
Speaker 1: did it. But the counting, you know saying, made me
Speaker 1: take all them plats up. I had to take all
Speaker 1: of this. Oh now it's good, it should be good. Now.
Speaker 1: I told the property I ain't gonna deal with it
Speaker 1: no moment. You know what it was like, you just
Speaker 1: ain't so frustrated. But you know what, if you could
Speaker 1: have held onto that land, Troy, you you have hagged
Speaker 1: your way eventually on that motherfucker dog. Because I don't
Speaker 1: know it's people making the you know what, I just
Speaker 1: can't ye ain't gonna talk too much. I hadn't. I
Speaker 1: had never seen the landing for I just bought the
Speaker 1: land off, just bought the land. They came down in,
Speaker 1: we did the deeds and signed the paper's hill. You
Speaker 1: know they had notary hill. I bought it from somebody
Speaker 1: down there, and I've never been to California. Never seen
Speaker 1: the land that was step foot on the lane at all,
Speaker 1: Miss Green. I just was a man, I invance. I'm
Speaker 1: an us. That's money though, that's money because even with
Speaker 1: the property, so you really didn't you lost something because
Speaker 1: of the setting two plants, of course, but you got
Speaker 1: paid for your problem. And I'm pretty sure you got
Speaker 1: what you paid for. The mores on the call. They
Speaker 1: couldn't nobody because at the time they weren'tlet nobody to
Speaker 1: grow on somebody anybody really want to buy? That's crazy.
Speaker 1: And I make sure they're growing all kinds of ships
Speaker 1: in that property now now everybody no those from years back.
Speaker 1: But I jumped in the game. I jumped in and
Speaker 1: went at it. Have you ever had any reservations? So
Speaker 1: you got so you're not working with it no more?
Speaker 1: Then on stops about. I got a bunch of weeds,
Speaker 1: stocks and stuff like that, A bunch of bunch of
Speaker 1: stocks and stuff and a lot of its in cannabis
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, hoping that the boom in the
Speaker 1: next couple of years or something, and I'm really get
Speaker 1: paid from it. You know what, man, One one thing
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I wish you could invest in our
Speaker 1: government dog because this seems like they know how to
Speaker 1: go out and get money from every motherfucker body. You
Speaker 1: figure they taxed some motherfucker's that go to work every day,
Speaker 1: athletes the way they taxed them. Motherfucker's are entertainment. Text
Speaker 1: every city you and they get to dig in your pockets.
Speaker 1: If you're in the weed game, they're texting you for this,
Speaker 1: texting you for that. It's like, how does the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: supposed to stay leghit? It's a hard hard you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard. You know what I'm saying you, I don't
Speaker 1: want to wrap no more. You don't saying I gratfuly
Speaker 1: bowled out. You know what I'm saying. They adn't like
Speaker 1: I had to stop rapping. I just gratefully bowled out, Like,
Speaker 1: hey man, I had my fun, I had my run,
Speaker 1: I made some money. Most of the best we a
Speaker 1: bunch of bitches. Hey, I'm good seeing a lot of states.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I met a lot of people. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta do it them all. I got a
Speaker 1: platinum plaque on the wall to show my shoe wasn't platinum,
Speaker 1: I said, I got platinum plaque on my wall back
Speaker 1: here to show that. Ain't I've been successful to me?
Speaker 1: You know that what I do it again or not
Speaker 1: or whatever, I'm successful to me? I made it to me.
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah you sure did, man. And the thing
Speaker 1: use you said a lot of regors. One thing I
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, though, how the hell did you
Speaker 1: get a print sample? Clear? Because because motherfucker's argue me down,
Speaker 1: I say, that's a little red corvette in the back
Speaker 1: of that rigor you know what I mean that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. Look at after we put it out of
Speaker 1: the universe, I got it. It's going up the short
Speaker 1: They called me the trump that was that Trence on
Speaker 1: the red card. I said, yep, you didn't tell us.
Speaker 1: I said, y'all ass you say they did, But they
Speaker 1: couldn't hear everybody can't hear everybody because what we did.
Speaker 1: You came on a special twelve inch of Prince that
Speaker 1: he had put out, and we took it and we
Speaker 1: played it and showed it down. We replayed that. That's
Speaker 1: not as your sample as we played. Yeah, they we
Speaker 1: played the hill off that ship man, because you know what,
Speaker 1: we replayed that. We re made that song like that
Speaker 1: and then Prince was like, heard it, you know, sent
Speaker 1: it to him. He's like, I like what they did.
Speaker 1: I don't want nothing from it. That's our Prince. Either
Speaker 1: he go fun with you, were he not? That's what
Speaker 1: I heard that he either go funk with you were not?
Speaker 1: And he very much for the artist, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I don't know. It's too many of them
Speaker 1: out there like that that lookout like that, like like you,
Speaker 1: little Troy, you know how you look out for your people,
Speaker 1: make sure everybody got money. It ain't too many that
Speaker 1: do that. Oh no, it ain't too many of them
Speaker 1: like that. And the force of the ones that he
Speaker 1: was like that, they usually wind up up and dead.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's a whole another story.
Speaker 1: Because because Prince was on some ship. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: you're being the music industry, Troy. You wanted the few
Speaker 1: people who don't actually lick them at their own game
Speaker 1: and beat them at their own ship, don't you find it? Man?
Speaker 1: You look at Michael Jackson all the because you know
Speaker 1: about publishing revenue, right, all that money Michael Jackson made,
Speaker 1: all that money Prince made, and then both of them
Speaker 1: motherfucker's was on some ship like, we don't need no
Speaker 1: record label. We're not working with y'all at all at all,
Speaker 1: and they wind up dead. Do you think it was
Speaker 1: some kind of fire play POSTI behind all that ship?
Speaker 1: I well, it's that kind of money involved, and O
Speaker 1: telling coach, you know, people don't like to pay out
Speaker 1: when that kind of money involved. And and they had
Speaker 1: it that they had it in their control that they
Speaker 1: were they they were there to take the Troy their
Speaker 1: own destiny at the time. And then the wife was like, no,
Speaker 1: man even to cut us out. Yeah, they don't like
Speaker 1: to see us tell them out. And then yeah, and
Speaker 1: can collectively they old Michael Jackson and Prince so much
Speaker 1: money that they if they would have had to pay
Speaker 1: them all the once, he would probably bankrupt. They come
Speaker 1: so they just so it's like you say, man, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's easier just to go just to go tell a
Speaker 1: motherfucker night night. You know where they just pray off
Speaker 1: our weaknesses, oh weaknesses. Oh look, okay, I'm gonna telling
Speaker 1: you somebody else that made a whole bunch of mother money.
Speaker 1: Theyrenn with whole bunch of motherfucker money off their motherfucking
Speaker 1: as he ate out for their ass day. Don't suck
Speaker 1: with him. He's still doing this thing, living like here,
Speaker 1: living and stick, you know, keep ship popping, and he
Speaker 1: and and he's on a bunch of mother records too.
Speaker 1: He did this motherfucking thing. Huh, he did his motherfucking thing.
Speaker 1: You know. The soft as a whole though. Man. You
Speaker 1: know what I liked about the South, man, what I
Speaker 1: like about the South is, especially when Houston was doing
Speaker 1: their things, that you saw a whole bunch of black
Speaker 1: people just out there with their your own ship, dog
Speaker 1: just getting and getting money and get into it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, they just say I'm independent.
Speaker 1: The money we split the splendid because because I swear
Speaker 1: man with Southwest, whole sale was cracking James, baby, and
Speaker 1: then we used to cash money, baby and let me
Speaker 1: just go on there get checks. Fucking they get two
Speaker 1: million dollars. Dog niggas was getting it like that man
Speaker 1: niggas that she would never hear outside of Texas. Dog down.
Speaker 1: They're getting money like a motherfucker living the mansions and ship.
Speaker 1: I had some many pre orders man that I go
Speaker 1: through the pick up check like a motherfucker just on
Speaker 1: pre order. I tell him if I'm good to work
Speaker 1: on the project. Give me fifty dollars, give hundred dollars
Speaker 1: to send the work on this project. Put out. He's
Speaker 1: a all right, well, I know you're gonna put it out.
Speaker 1: You gonna put it out. I got it. You drop
Speaker 1: a check. I would do. I would drop for all
Speaker 1: the fifty thousand dollars to you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: cause you know you're gonna sell eight nine records and
Speaker 1: his money back already at eight ten dollars red it
Speaker 1: at the time. You know what I'm saying, So it
Speaker 1: won't like the streaming right now that gets zero points
Speaker 1: here one sent a streaming ship. You know up. I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's why I stop the game. I'm like now,
Speaker 1: I don't like to see it. Man, Who who making
Speaker 1: the money off this ship? Because all this show ain't
Speaker 1: making the money, not off streams. You gotta do biggons
Speaker 1: and streams to see some money. I'm sad about car
Speaker 1: through Starwizosa and getting eight dollars a CD or ten
Speaker 1: on my own. At eight dollars a CD, I ain't
Speaker 1: gotta I ain't gotta see that many city either may
Speaker 1: don't mind it. You feel me? Man, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: they suck the game up because Doom Times used to
Speaker 1: be so good exchange and you didn't have to be
Speaker 1: a famous forever. You can see twenty five thousand units
Speaker 1: and have a bank roll. So you say they they
Speaker 1: didn't like that just to take the money out of pocket.
Speaker 1: You know what, I think a part of I think
Speaker 1: initially it was just technology, right. I think you know,
Speaker 1: the technology, and that the ability to deliver music fast
Speaker 1: like that was reading at first. Then I think the
Speaker 1: white folks aw away that. Okay, it's the way we
Speaker 1: can lick the game with this, because the way they
Speaker 1: paid the artists on that ship. The only people making
Speaker 1: money dog really every month is the streaming sights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they gotta pay. They gotta pay for the license in
Speaker 1: and all that ship, though, but they're getting they're getting
Speaker 1: money from a motherfucker title every month. Once again, why
Speaker 1: would you put your ship on there out there like
Speaker 1: that and you know you ain't gonna get paid off?
Speaker 1: Oh it's it's it's a couple of artists to tell
Speaker 1: motherfucker's don't put my ship on none of them sites.
Speaker 1: And they want my ship, they gotta come by it
Speaker 1: for me, you know, what I'm saying, you could do
Speaker 1: it like that too. But eventually all of them dudes
Speaker 1: eventually fold and they wanted to putting their ship on
Speaker 1: there because they wind up they wind up seeing that
Speaker 1: the physical game ain't there like it once was. You
Speaker 1: know when they took the stores down, Man, when I
Speaker 1: saw a warehouse music closed down, I said it is done.
Speaker 1: I said, it's a wrap now. When they closed twer
Speaker 1: warehouse and all that ship, I said, it's a wrap now.
Speaker 1: Sam Good, he used to be record stores from every company,
Speaker 1: every car. I had a record store. They ain't had
Speaker 1: one in company. He had Underworld Records. I had Flavored
Speaker 1: for a year in Paramount. When that ship was done, Dog,
Speaker 1: it was done. Dog, the good old days was done
Speaker 1: the niggas. But you know what, I'm gonna tell you something,
Speaker 1: These young cats don't figure out a way to make
Speaker 1: the Internet work. From some young cats out there making
Speaker 1: some money. Yeah, but see what you're the best thing
Speaker 1: to do is to put on the streaming service like that,
Speaker 1: go to YouTube and monetize your stations, your challenge stuff,
Speaker 1: and run all your music and everything through that way.
Speaker 1: Right now, That's that's the best thing, you know, Troy.
Speaker 1: I know you hustling tips. That's why I told you.
Speaker 1: I said we could keep you. Though. We ain't gon
Speaker 1: talk about the whole bunch of music we are because
Speaker 1: it's a big part of who you are. But we
Speaker 1: canna talk about you some days. You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back to that served thing. Do you think served
Speaker 1: in the state of Texas was more valuable than cocaine
Speaker 1: at one time? Yea, to all the hustlers hustling cocaine,
Speaker 1: ifout makes your the ad served the cause they thought
Speaker 1: that was the coolest thing to do. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Anything about you drinking served, that's the coolest
Speaker 1: thing in the world. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: you you know you thank you're having a good time.
Speaker 1: You're chilling, and you know what I'm saying. But no,
Speaker 1: you wasn't really chilling. I remember I came home one
Speaker 1: day and I had some served, right, and I would
Speaker 1: think my mom and say, what you got in that bottle?
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, let's serup, And hell, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, simple little serrus. She said, oh, well, we
Speaker 1: have to put you to seat with that serry. Back
Speaker 1: in the day with the bottle them the bottles they
Speaker 1: bottles and stuff, and give you something. I used to
Speaker 1: talk all of goddamn time. We put your heads to seat.
Speaker 1: I think for she say, I'm gon tell you something
Speaker 1: else too. You called yourself. Won't be the latest man,
Speaker 1: right you want jump in this bed, in that bed
Speaker 1: and please your lady. You bet leading serrup along. I
Speaker 1: stopped working with it right then. My mama told me,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna kill my nature. And he killed a
Speaker 1: lot of natures around this motherfucker back then, early man.
Speaker 1: You know, and that's a wicked drug dog because when
Speaker 1: you want the opios, James, you sin serpent ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just the wicked ship because they have where. Motherfucker
Speaker 1: can't take a ship no more dog. Yeah up, they
Speaker 1: can't take a ship more dog. That's why they got
Speaker 1: start getting on. Oh here and ship man like that
Speaker 1: motherfucker's something. You overdose from that ship. You can't breathe.
Speaker 1: I don't see motherfucker's damn. The dogs like they just loans,
Speaker 1: just colap what me though, they're going to sleep on it.
Speaker 1: I won't know. Dogs making me go to sleep. I
Speaker 1: want to be up. I want to be seen. What's
Speaker 1: going on. I gotta be a well, I gotta go
Speaker 1: on the top of it. Well, what's going around me?
Speaker 1: But you're on that side, you you would be in
Speaker 1: the red light. You've been sitting in the chill. You're
Speaker 1: be in a line and water burger, and you start knowing,
Speaker 1: not this I'm not doing that serves still cracking like
Speaker 1: that down there. Keep them the kids working with this stuff.
Speaker 1: Not to look people don't be honest, they still funk
Speaker 1: with it. But I don't know what they funk with
Speaker 1: and what they do. You know, they called I don't
Speaker 1: live my life in that type of circle normal. You
Speaker 1: know what my niggas that I funk with do don't
Speaker 1: do third don't they don't do kindible, they don't do
Speaker 1: that ship like that. And it's one thing I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell people because I'm don't judge what people do, man,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't judge nobody's life what they do.
Speaker 1: I just wishing the best. But with that sert man um,
Speaker 1: it leads to where after while the surpup ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do nothing for you no more. And it's really what
Speaker 1: we're doing is creating a whole another generation. The heroin attics,
Speaker 1: because what happens is when people can't get them, When
Speaker 1: people can't get that sirrup, they can't get them peels.
Speaker 1: There's too much money, you know what peoples cast shape pells.
Speaker 1: You're gonna pay some serious breath for those. And you
Speaker 1: know if three or four ain't doing it no more,
Speaker 1: oh man, you can go get you some of that
Speaker 1: brown hair and winning. And that's when they can start
Speaker 1: that ship. And this damnly impossible to kick that ship. Man, Like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose the whole generation of people. Man if
Speaker 1: we don't wise up with that ship. Oh no, is
Speaker 1: everybody's the country? Right? Yeah, it ain't just shucks. I
Speaker 1: think we just need to wake up and be more
Speaker 1: cautious to what the ship is doing. The exactly because
Speaker 1: we got more to lose than the next people. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, because I had a
Speaker 1: whole I had a big as bottle the serp dog
Speaker 1: in my cabinet for the longest, like one of them
Speaker 1: big ass you know them big ass leaders they give you.
Speaker 1: I went from my ass but one time, and they
Speaker 1: gave me that in a bunch of ship. I head
Speaker 1: up in the cab and I took maybe one thing
Speaker 1: that that ship that knocked me out so much. I
Speaker 1: took a teaspoon and was sleep for like twelve hours.
Speaker 1: Dog man, I tell you what happened, right, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what happened. Now. This ship had been sitting in
Speaker 1: my cabinet about four or five years. When the homies
Speaker 1: come by and I'll take the ship out because I'm
Speaker 1: looking for something else from the pantry, right and you
Speaker 1: see that. He says, still, you know what this hells?
Speaker 1: You got right? I said, yeah, I know where it deals.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, he said, he said, let me get
Speaker 1: a dog. He pulled out some money. I said, man,
Speaker 1: this ship three or four years old. Dog ship framed?
Speaker 1: No good, no more ship. You know. I let him
Speaker 1: going to take a dog. But ship. You know it's
Speaker 1: like man, he that like that was something he had
Speaker 1: shake that ship up. See Troy, thinking went out. That
Speaker 1: have been gone many man, I can I can imagine
Speaker 1: what it's like hanging out with you, Brouh, just a free,
Speaker 1: spared person. You know, I know you'll be out there
Speaker 1: having a good time. Man, I know you'd be having
Speaker 1: a good time. Well, I have a good time here,
Speaker 1: and that you know, I don't got married and everything,
Speaker 1: and I got a brutiful, brutiful wife. I'm saying a
Speaker 1: lot of business. You know what I'm saying. I last
Speaker 1: year I went into a rental car business and bought
Speaker 1: a bunch of rental cars and stuff. So I've been
Speaker 1: in the rental cars out then. Um two months ago,
Speaker 1: but three months ago I went to truck driving school,
Speaker 1: got my CDs and brought my eighteen wheel or something about.
Speaker 1: Come a teen wheels and stuff and coaust of them.
Speaker 1: You know you've been this man, Man, you're talking about
Speaker 1: change lane. I'm serious, Troy. We could come down the
Speaker 1: Dog and the nixt when we get this. That's what
Speaker 1: we do, James. When we get this other situation closed,
Speaker 1: we need to go down the Houston dog Man. We
Speaker 1: need to go down to Houston and do this live. Troy,
Speaker 1: cool with that? Yeah, that's cool, Hey, James, I ride
Speaker 1: up too, man. I got two of them. I got
Speaker 1: a oh, eight areas of soft tail. It's my it's
Speaker 1: my slab by big big front end on it. Eight
Speaker 1: favorite music baggers on the back, uh, fishtails and everything.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You never did no club. Now.
Speaker 1: Then I got a road glide to ok We're gonna
Speaker 1: ride tomorrow. We leave tomorrow evening about four o'clock. We
Speaker 1: right into Atlanta to morrow. Okay, you know we need
Speaker 1: to do brother, you know we need to do the change.
Speaker 1: We need to get with Troy and start to us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if him do the Houston first, the stuff we got
Speaker 1: out here. Yeah, you know, I'm just getting back. I
Speaker 1: know you don't want to do no Bae had a podcast.
Speaker 1: I had a podcast right here. There was a background
Speaker 1: of my podcast, my doors right now. I had a
Speaker 1: podcast I started, and then the COVID hit and I
Speaker 1: didn't want people come to my house. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do all the day. I really want to do
Speaker 1: in person, and I had different people lined up, and
Speaker 1: then I just stopped doing it. You know, with me,
Speaker 1: I start something. If I ain't feeling in the next
Speaker 1: week whatever, I can that project, do something else. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about getting on the motor shocles. Man. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but you ain't do no club though, I gotta I
Speaker 1: know everybody down all the clubs, right, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not in the club. They'd be all asking me. Man,
Speaker 1: you ain't even got a pros. But just come in trouble,
Speaker 1: come ride with us. That's about the see want around
Speaker 1: Troit type of you want to kick it with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, I wanna free spirit
Speaker 1: ride and I want to ride. That's right, that's the best.
Speaker 1: That's the best time where you go where you want
Speaker 1: to go, and and just take your time getting there. Well,
Speaker 1: big dog, I'm gonna tell you this. When we come down,
Speaker 1: we damn suld go recruits you. By the time we leave,
Speaker 1: you can be talking about what when we gonna open
Speaker 1: up the place we can get it cracking. They go,
Speaker 1: I don't know you can see it, but now you
Speaker 1: haven't been that damn saying what damn caraman? You know
Speaker 1: you can't see it anyway. That's my flab bike right
Speaker 1: there with it's ay in the back on the two
Speaker 1: and practice say short start. It's a baller shot caller.
Speaker 1: Its light up at night when you're going down the
Speaker 1: street and light up. Yes, he got two and PAGs.
Speaker 1: I mean we ride, I ride, have fun. But that's
Speaker 1: by that. I ain't trying to what kind of music
Speaker 1: you've got on that thing? I got uh four tens,
Speaker 1: four six by nins and four or five five apes
Speaker 1: they're beating down the many as you running three three ams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even man, I got one one one one
Speaker 1: for the four tens wolf was one for the four
Speaker 1: six by nins and one for the five and the
Speaker 1: quarter uh in the ferry right right, I'm running two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be bumping. Yeah, I mean my road king
Speaker 1: that motherfucker's it sounds better than everybody that got nineteen
Speaker 1: speakers on the back. You know, I'm thinking about redoing
Speaker 1: mind cause I heard some other people that was jam
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I think are hitting it. But
Speaker 1: then I don't know if my ship tuned up right,
Speaker 1: you know, saying you got certain places that that's not
Speaker 1: a tune tune the music up right too. So but
Speaker 1: I'm happy with it myself, right, I'm happy with it myself.
Speaker 1: And when I'm riding down the street my baby on
Speaker 1: the back, were couldn't like to see it, you know
Speaker 1: that my ship up like the seal, because I like,
Speaker 1: I'm either ride us up you give me. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: we appreciate you, man, because I don't know it's late
Speaker 1: over that dog. We appreciate you coming on here and
Speaker 1: shopping it up with his big dog. Where can people
Speaker 1: reach out to you at man, it's Little Troit even
Speaker 1: active online, like where can they get actually wet? Man,
Speaker 1: I've got jumped on a softening and say something here
Speaker 1: and that littro g that's it and instaground Twitter. I
Speaker 1: don't never be on Twitter that much else, but I've
Speaker 1: been on Instagram and Facebook. They give me up on
Speaker 1: Little Troy to on faithbook. That's about it. I don't
Speaker 1: just I don't just post a lot of ship all
Speaker 1: the time. If I do post, I don't win ded
Speaker 1: and it came back then I posted. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm gonna go to the Lanta trip.
Speaker 1: I won't post nothing when I'm down in the Lanta.
Speaker 1: When I get back, I make throw some pictures up
Speaker 1: the Lanta trip and they're like, man, you out of town.
Speaker 1: Now I'm back now. You know what. I'm just don't
Speaker 1: know about no one man all the time. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't just post up every time I go somewhere.
Speaker 1: Everything I do. I don't live my life on the ground. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you damn, because with these people don't know they got
Speaker 1: some cash dogs they could find up when you post
Speaker 1: the pictures that you're eating over here and there. You
Speaker 1: just can pull up your pictures and find out where
Speaker 1: your location is. There the come pull up on you
Speaker 1: right well you get you took that ride to Lanta.
Speaker 1: You be shaving. Keep them wheels down. My brother music
Speaker 1: bumping to keep cracking, so man, you'd be shaved out
Speaker 1: there alright day. Man, I appreciate you all having me
Speaker 1: on this show. Man. You know what I'm saying, cause
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do it. I you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Man, I'm glad you did it because that's
Speaker 1: but that's what maybe won't you even more when the
Speaker 1: nigga don't want to do some ship to be on
Speaker 1: the thing. I said, Man, come on, tell will be cool.
Speaker 1: And I have to tell to pull my mixing card out,
Speaker 1: I said, I Mr mixes on me. Hey, but see,
Speaker 1: I live a different lifestyle. No, do you feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? So I don't just be out trying to
Speaker 1: do all the podcasts and all this being you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta be at every show they go on that
Speaker 1: people don't I don't do. I enjoy my life. I'm
Speaker 1: fifty five years old right now. You feel me? Don't
Speaker 1: you think that that that this this right here, this
Speaker 1: show right here, A lot of people are gonna be
Speaker 1: enlightened by what you said, and everybody's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to see that you can still be a gangster without
Speaker 1: the bullshit and still make your money and do your thing.
Speaker 1: You know what, it's just you that I guarantee you.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, oh man, that little Troy Man. Okay,
Speaker 1: they've been They've been asked me to do a movie
Speaker 1: about my life. They know when I gotta people that
Speaker 1: they may, I help you do it. I'll help you
Speaker 1: write it, I'll help a duce I do whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't stood. But my wife even saying, you know, they
Speaker 1: try to get me to do the TV show you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And I'm like, no, I won't
Speaker 1: live my life on on on TV show. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that. But I really I want my
Speaker 1: grand babies to tell my story. Now she's been wrong
Speaker 1: for that cause she said, you need to tell your
Speaker 1: story in the first person because you know more your
Speaker 1: story than they're gonna ever know about you. But that
Speaker 1: that mean they just gotta do a lot of research
Speaker 1: and find podcasts like this shill. You gotta yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta leave a blueprint, though. You gotta leave them. You
Speaker 1: gotta leave them. You gotta leave them with that, that
Speaker 1: diary of Little Troy. So when they get when they
Speaker 1: read the diary, everything else is easy because they already
Speaker 1: got this right here. So just I never thought about that,
Speaker 1: you know, leave a diary form for them, for them
Speaker 1: to put the story right. You know. My wife said, baby,
Speaker 1: you don't did so much everywhere you go. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you right now. You know we have to war
Speaker 1: man right now, everywhere we go, right, I don't want
Speaker 1: the man had on everything on the truck like about that.
Speaker 1: I ain't robbed, y'all. I can't but do nothing to nobody,
Speaker 1: cause mother just's no me. I guess by my eyes
Speaker 1: or whatever, I'll be out of town. Everywhere we go,
Speaker 1: people be like, that's so that's the how did you hell?
Speaker 1: You know me? Man? I got a math zone, bro.
Speaker 1: The way you where you had, the way you walk.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody got their own signature walk and they
Speaker 1: know who you are. Ain't nothing wrong with it. God
Speaker 1: damn it. I let y'all. I let this goddamn cigars
Speaker 1: back place close. Oh man, let me look, you got yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm like y'all go to May Man. I appreciate this,
Speaker 1: bro ca hey, Casy, you know, good looking at maybe
Speaker 1: you're good looking at man. You know, like I said,
Speaker 1: for the further one to do it. But he told
Speaker 1: me who it was a good friend of Hills and
Speaker 1: this and now there ain't gonna be no bullshit that podcast. Man.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you to man, you're glad you did
Speaker 1: a big dog. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad you came on.
Speaker 1: I told you it was gonna be some grown man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, I appreciate dog hey,
Speaker 1: And let's set up something. No dog. We me and
Speaker 1: James go here Houston dog like and usually aving to
Speaker 1: show a this coaching football and they a little too
Speaker 1: with their stuff now, so they're practicing it now at
Speaker 1: this time. But we will come down to the Houston Dog.
Speaker 1: We want you to be the you know, the whole
Speaker 1: catalyst of that. You know what I'm saying. Hep y'all
Speaker 1: e and uh if y'all ever want to do a
Speaker 1: football and I got a little football team too. You
Speaker 1: know they ain't got litle too. I sponsor, oh for sure.
Speaker 1: With man, let's say so that we set a game
Speaker 1: over eight eight team and your team we got don't
Speaker 1: want super Bowl? Uh? I took four team to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl to the team water super Bowl? Is that right? Man?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man. We bring them California boys down there,
Speaker 1: they're gonna bring the noises. Dog. They say Texas got
Speaker 1: some ballers, don't I know, y'all y'all team, but I
Speaker 1: got uh recogen when you we will come down, Troy.
Speaker 1: I'm actually, man, I appreciate you. Be bro alright all
Speaker 1: the time? All right show? Okay, that concludes another episode
Speaker 1: against the Chronicles podcast. We had a homeboy, little Troy
Speaker 1: on that other day, man, James Troy a cool brother
Speaker 1: man one the all day he wanted to um. And
Speaker 1: you know how I feel about doing a bunch of
Speaker 1: rappers now, Dog. You know what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 1: it's so many lasted story, dog, and I think he
Speaker 1: should put that story out the dog. She A lot
Speaker 1: of people fail to realize that each man out there,
Speaker 1: each every individual has her own life, has a has
Speaker 1: a story today life, every last one of us, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be different. You know what I'm saying? Someone
Speaker 1: are just like his is you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like when people say how my story is, you know
Speaker 1: you you just got that handful that that can teach
Speaker 1: everybody in one sit down man, And I'm glad he
Speaker 1: did the interview, man, Little Troy y'all. Well, that concludes
Speaker 1: another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to
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