1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: When I wrote y'all all across the USC conton Motts 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Day to l a from on the California the Valley, 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: we represent that Kelly County. So if you're keeping it 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: real on your side of your town, you tune into 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles Gangsters. He gonna tell you how we go. 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: If I lie my nose will girl like Pinocchio, We're 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna tell you to choose in nothing but the Gangster 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Chronic goals. This is not your average show. You're now 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: tuned into the rail m c A Bick James and 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Big stails the streets. Hello, where are you at? This 11 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: is o g gangster Granny and the Gangster Chronicles podcast 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: is bad in effect, Get ready for some of that 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: G ship and bleae up some wanna Merrow went to 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: another episode against the Chronicles podcast. I with my homeboy 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Big James. Yeah you know, of course mcat is out 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: there on the football field coach the kids to victory 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: and stuff. He'd be back in next week. But before 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: we get stirts tonight, I want to address a very 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: very serious situation on James recently lost his own father. 20 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: Mr Quinn is will born and I know James, you guys, 21 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: um had kind of just gotta queen it like later 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: on in your life. And we really got acquin it 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: at twenty two. Um, he's always been around, and you 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: know I always wonder why he was giving mom's money 25 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: and uh giving me money. And you know, I just 26 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: didn't put two and two together. To my cousin, Christine 27 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: rest in peace, she basically told me, you know, that's 28 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: your problem. This was at a younger age, and I 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: really didn't put two and two together until I started 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: going to Texas with my papas James m and his 31 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: family pretty much really uh rejected me. I was telling 32 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: me I wouldn't his son and and I went part 33 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: of the family and all that ship stuff. Yeah, I 34 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: had to deal with that, and you know I always 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: wonder why this dude didn't, you know, take up from me. 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: So I learned to cuss them out. You know. Yeah, 37 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: they was all bitches. They were there thing, They was 38 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: everything under the table. They were bitches and everything to me. 39 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: So I didn't have family like that out there. They 40 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: didn't look at me like that like they looked at 41 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: my brothers. I'm pretty sure it's changed now, but now 42 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: this time, well you know, Um, all of those people 43 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: are going down. His mother gone, he gone, is Auntie gone. 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: A lot of them will gone now. And you know, 45 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: I really don't talk to any of them. But you know, 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: I got two brothers. I still call him my brother, 47 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: Anthony and Barry out there. Um. But other than that, 48 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't really communicate with nobody. Man. You know, hopefully 49 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: y'all change that dynamic man to get to know each other, 50 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: you know, because family is a special thing. Man, it 51 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: can't be a special thing. So I'm gonna keep you 52 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: up in prayers. Brother. On that man, Max, y'all find 53 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: resolution and resolving that man. And you know, you know, 54 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: it was a blessing at the age of twenty two 55 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: to get the meats of biological father. And that's a blessing, man, 56 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: you know. Um. And we hit it off right at 57 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: the top. Um. You know, he was in the motorcycle 58 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: club and then asked me, come on, Shana, I love 59 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: had you in the motorcycle club. You'll bring a lot 60 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: to the bike set. I was like, Pops, I'm still 61 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: a game banging and ship. I don't want to do that. 62 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: I can't do them both. And you know, just going 63 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: up to the club and and shitting back party and 64 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: with him, I went and bought a motorcycle and uh 65 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: I joined the club. And you know they wanted to 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: give me special treatment because I was too sweet sound 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: you know for a patch. I didn't want time and 68 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: he was he man, Sean, I love that because you 69 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: could have got a full patch just because of me, 70 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: because you want son and man I was. I love 71 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: pulling up on the yard on them on my bike 72 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: and he out there they're drinking and kicking it. And 73 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, right now today still you know all the 74 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: old gs. You know, this show got love for me. 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's a beautiful thing, man, 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. Man received that dog, you know 77 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: see that that's a that's a thing. You know. But 78 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: tonight man, it's always man. Um, we got somebody pretty 79 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: special in the house. One of eight times. Fine, it's 80 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: one of the rich negators down there, and we go 81 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: get into that tonight. Um, Little Troy, what's up? What's 82 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: your partner? What's going on? Stair? What's up? James at Main? 83 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: Stuff for your lost man, and keep your head up. Man, 84 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: you don't say thank you. I don't want you to 85 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: keep keep going, you feel me. Oh yeah, it's definitely yeah. 86 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: But man, you know, Troy, you quite a history down there. Man, 87 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: you had I know you started short Stop week we 88 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: year did you started short Stop Records nineteen eight, so 89 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: you and the other label across town Rap a Lot, 90 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: pretty much started around the same time. Then yeah, like 91 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: and yeah about the year before me and uh, but 92 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: we all came up in the industry at the same time, learning, 93 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: going through all the trial and trip relations hard not 94 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, not knowing the music business. I gotta go 95 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: try to find the lauder and pay him for his 96 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: time to tell a certain things or not. We just 97 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: figured out on I own that what I did, mostly 98 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: I done. I figured this your my own. Yeah, most 99 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: of the smart ones do. Yeah, most most of the 100 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: smart ones doing. And the first artist you had in 101 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: the label was if I'm correcting me wrong, DJ Action, 102 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: now known to the world of Scarface. Correct, yeah he was. 103 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Actually he was scar facing it with me. He was scarf. 104 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Oh so we're breaking news now, So scar Face starts 105 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: before he even yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he started off 106 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: as DJ actually first came to me and then we 107 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: did that song together. I started Small Time Dope gang cocaine, 108 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: pushing rocks on the block never broke main. You know, 109 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: when we did that song, he was talking about me 110 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: and my little brothers setting rocks on the block and stuff, 111 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, in the village and the dead End and ship. 112 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: So and when we write that songs that nobody nomber 113 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: named the common scar face and then right then we 114 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: just thought saying that, what that's your name, nigga, Scarf Frey, 115 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna call you scar free nigged. And that's how 116 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: I started off on the album cover, you know how 117 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: we did it and everything. You know, I got a 118 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: bunch of us sitting on my callac back in the 119 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: dead End and the village and stuff with all kind 120 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: of guns all on the cover, sitting on my callac 121 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: and ship. You know, I'm saying we were we were 122 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: just living the park. Where were what we were doing 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: in our neighborhood, you know, the my lifestyle. The first 124 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: face was just sixteen years old when he made that song. 125 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: So he was out there on the block selling on 126 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: rocks or nothing. That's what we was out there doing, 127 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: you know what they me and my live brother. So 128 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, he kept him head a little bit and 129 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: stay with my mama. You know what I'm saying, face 130 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: is little my mama. So mom used to cook for 131 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: him and everything. You know what I'm saying. But okay, yeah, 132 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: as I started out back then like that, you know 133 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, so y'all took care of But 134 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, on this show, man, we'd like to keep 135 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: it g at all times. We're gonna definitely talk about 136 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: the music because it's a big part of your life. 137 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: But I want to go back to the corners, to 138 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: them blocks, man, the streets. That's fun, little troit you 139 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Now, where are you from? Are 140 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: you from the fifth Ward? Is that fifth and fifth Ward? 141 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: Where you from? South Park? South Side? When everybody says 142 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: it's south side, the dead end? I related out the 143 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: dead end, you know what I'm saying. So I help 144 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: created a culture of what they're doing now in the 145 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: dead end. Okay, I got you, and you started off 146 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: like so many of us. You was out there hustling. Stay. 147 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: That's the only thing we knew at the time, you 148 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's the only way we knew 149 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: to get some money, you know, to try to fund 150 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: out life, our family, and then we started to start 151 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: doing business on the way we knew how to get 152 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: some money was go out there and hit the blocks, 153 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, then start sending rocks, and then you move 154 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: up to the four and a half and nine of breaks, 155 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and then you got them coming in. M That's how 156 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: everybody started off pretty much. I mean, we are from 157 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: the hood, We all from the streets. So it was 158 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: it was the hoodie for music. It was the hoodie 159 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: any good. And my old man rested piece my dad 160 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: passed while back to you know what I'm saying, he 161 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: was like the next thing to guard to me. He 162 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: didn't want to put me in the game, you know, saying. 163 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: Old man was a merchant seaman. So he used to 164 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: go out on the ships to the country and ship 165 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: and bring all that work back for the Columbials here 166 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: in town. Right, so you get it from the Columbias, uh, 167 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: for them plumbers out the country, and then bring it 168 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: back on the ship. Here meet the ones he got 169 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: to bring him to here, give it to him and stuff. Right. 170 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: And then when he showed me how to cook, you know, 171 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: talk me how to cook, I started cooking for them 172 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: to let him know how good it was. Cause they 173 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: didn't know how to cook. Oh wow, so y'allways in 174 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: the game. Then, yeah, my old man put me down. 175 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: So when I got ready and start making making ways 176 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: and needed more and more and more, I already had 177 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: people I can go to cause the old man was 178 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: already connected. M Yeah, let me tell you this, Stroy, 179 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: because um, we know we got a whole bunch of 180 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: mutual acquaintances and you was doing you was definitely doing 181 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: your thing. He's definitely verified. You know, he's verified and certified, 182 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, an officials official like a motherfucker. Um, did 183 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: you ever start feeling the heat? What made you want to, like, um, 184 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: diversify your portfolio? You won't jump out the game where 185 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: incident happened to make you say, you know what, this 186 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: selling rock ship, I gotta go do some other ship. 187 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: It wouldn't never to set about till a long time, 188 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: you know what. I'm uh that I ain't gonna lie. 189 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: It was made too much money in the streets and 190 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: at the time to just up and stop. But I 191 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: started doing music, and I played music in the from 192 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: the third grade in school and then my mom my 193 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: dad and then had bands, you know, I side playing 194 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: nightclubs and I was a little kid, so i just 195 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: go to the clubs with them, and I'm at eleven, twelve, 196 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: thirty years old, watch them playing stuff, you know, and 197 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: they're practicing at the house. I'm playing, and I'm playing 198 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: in the band in school. So it was quite naturally. 199 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: It was just in my blood. I was born to 200 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: be a huffler and too a musician. You know what 201 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. From old man. Okay, okay, So so it 202 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: wasn't no um come to Jesus moment as they say, 203 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: that made you say, you know what fun this? I 204 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: gotta get out the game. You didn't get robbed, you said, 205 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: you kept doing your thing. I had to make enough 206 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: money to uh to put this music out, you know 207 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We ain't about giving some money. So 208 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, when you put out an album back then, 209 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: studio time was highs hell. It's studio time was not 210 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: cheat what NOO CDs burned no songs on the CD. 211 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: We were burning songs on a full hi VCR take. 212 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: When I put my first record out with star Face, 213 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: we burned the music on a full high VHI UH 214 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: video tape. For the kids out there, they don't know 215 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: nothing about everything this before the a Dad, I ain't 216 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: much mather eight Dad, I gotta go and take it 217 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: back for the eight dad, damn before the VCR tape 218 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: is what I mastered Scarface song too, and send it 219 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: off to get to get it put on wax fo 220 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: high VCR tape. You know what. That was the first 221 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: big technology right there. That was the first big one. 222 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: So you talked about going back then everything was high 223 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: and see we used to be to go to a 224 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: recording studio. Back thing changed like eighty eight. You was 225 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: gonna spend any bit up anywhere from sevi five an hour, 226 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: it's up to two fifty. Yeah, that's when I started. 227 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: And I first met uh scar Face, him and him 228 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: and him and Bruce Bruce Rose and uh Beato. You 229 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm a hustling, so you know, 230 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: they tell me he can wrap. I listened to him 231 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: on on over the phone. I'm like, okay, no, I 232 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: had that big old brick ass phone. You don't that 233 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: big brick phone back then, you don't say, and they 234 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: ate it, and um I heard him. It was cool. 235 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: And so men Beato hooked up Men Beato. We we 236 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: we were hustling though together. You know what they ain't 237 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: going out to said, set the rocks and packs and 238 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: everything else all out of town. When you hear a 239 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: s Q say, uh Folk game bangers for freshing the 240 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: crack slangers, I just knew he had to peep down 241 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: my life and was talking about meeting what I was 242 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: doing down here. I'm like hiding to hear this nigger. 243 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: That's what we do. We go here the block, don't 244 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: on nobody out of town and set up shop. The 245 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: only thing it was different that we won game bangers though, 246 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I never I know players, 247 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: criple of bloods or nothing. You know what I'm saying. 248 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: I would just have been a g able to go 249 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: away over folk with whoever about making some money. Let's 250 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: make some money. Well, I love it here. How you 251 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: did that to go on somebody else neighborhood, just fresh 252 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: off the bus, out the car and then pull up 253 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: and start slanging. Now you open up shop. I knew 254 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: you had a lot of enemies trying to do that. 255 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: Then when you bring that work and you're making it 256 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: making sure everybody eat, they loved you from out of town. Okay, 257 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: that's what it was you you were passing it and 258 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: looking out for everybody. Yeah, I had him working. Yeah, 259 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: I made sure that when I got on the block, 260 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: I finally who's really making it, who're doing it? I 261 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: put him in and make sure he put anybody else in. 262 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, I'm gonna be out 263 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: there too, gonna get mine, but we all what you need. 264 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, No, I don't know what up he go. 265 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: And I ain't just busting out ahead all the time 266 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying. So I know 267 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: how to finess my way in the game with motherfucker's 268 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: and people and ship you know what. They're not trying 269 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: to come in and strong on them and just take over. 270 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: And like I'm now, I get on. But if if 271 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: I don't have to, and I can get this money 272 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: quite as possible and move on, that's what I do, 273 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: smart man. That's the best way right there, That's the 274 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: best way to get down. So what was your spots? 275 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: Try what parts? You know that's a long time ago 276 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: stacks with limitations. Where were you allegedly at with different 277 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: spots when you can move with your hot spots all 278 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: over all over Jackson Money of photo author south side 279 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: north side of the southwest side. I just go way over, man, 280 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: cause you know, you know, I just my nuts, hunting 281 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: my stocks. But I know I had a good mouthpiece, 282 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: and I know a treat people and talk to people 283 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: and make sure we got that money. It was. It 284 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: was all great. But when you come over another neighborhood 285 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: or somewhere else, sometimes they know of you, you know, 286 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: saying people heard, oh I heard a litty yeah, okay, 287 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: that's such such, So they'd be like, all right, what 288 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: the name got going on? And when I put this 289 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: present this money to him, probably gonna make this money together. Hey, everything, 290 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: you gotta go out the wonder. And at the time, 291 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, Bloods and Chris one't real real big downhill, 292 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So we didn't really have 293 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: that's sick that said like you can't go over here 294 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: cause you're gonna blue. You can't go you're all ready. 295 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: We didn't. It wasn't that bad when I first jumped 296 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: in the game back in the day, you know what 297 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I just stayed new to the whole time. 298 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: So right now you can be at my house. Back 299 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: then at my studio I have blood encryption the house. 300 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: At the same time, we all hustling together. Ain't nobody 301 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: starting no ship and they know him new to when 302 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: you come fuck with me. Hey, it's all about money 303 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: and we we o g we make this money, alright, 304 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: We hustles. And the where I cared myself the whole 305 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: entire time I disrespect them, didn't disrespect me. They showed 306 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: me love. That's how I just wrote. Man, I still 307 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: rode that way right now today. Yeah, well, let me 308 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: ask you this. Let me ask you this big dog. 309 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned the crips and the bloods. Not know they 310 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: both deep down the Texas, all through Texas anything now, Yeah, 311 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: they're deep through Texas. When did you know this week 312 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: we year, did you notice, um the gangs like that 313 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: starting to infiltrate like Texas Like nineties three DNA Danny 314 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: three named fold, They really getting real deep down there. 315 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Then nine four my brother he was a five dude 316 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: who you know what I'm saying, And uh, he went 317 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: to prison at ninety two and I went to NATY one. 318 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: He went in NY two and I got out of 319 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: name the three you the five dudes who and all this? 320 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Who were friends Sam that all little big boys that 321 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: was that was non ranked up. When I come home, 322 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: you know they don't. They was like, man, your brothers 323 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: don't put in so much work with us. Bro, whatever 324 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: you need, man, you just holler. Man, you got us. Man, 325 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: I said, y'all, y'all know all players, I ain't like 326 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: dying now. O G. You don't made your way already 327 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: it Bro, you ain't got to. I said, I find 328 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: in You know what I'm saying. My brother right now 329 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: still still locked up from anti nin to them their 330 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: life Simmons. You know they got life Simmons right now. 331 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's already that man, like so many of us, 332 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: man locked in them cages. Dog. And you know now 333 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: when that first came down there did that mediant even 334 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: resistance because I remember, like, um, and this is going 335 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: back first, I'm richly from Cleveland and Cleveland what happened 336 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: with us. It was a whole bunch of l a 337 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: cats that came now and it was funny. It was 338 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: like all the Bloods came into Accoring, Ohio. All the 339 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: crips went in to Cleveland, which is the biggest city, 340 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: but the Bloods kind of locked down them smaller little 341 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: cities around, you know, around the big cities. Like they 342 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't go into Columbus. They would be on in Bath, 343 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: Ohio or somewhere Dating, Ohio like the other little all 344 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: bringing places. But I know there's more of them started 345 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: coming through. Did they come down here on the hustling too? 346 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: That came out of husband? You know we didn't. I didn't. 347 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: I ain't never. I have not one time, And my 348 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: whole entire life got into it with a blood or 349 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: crypt in. My whole entire life of being out in 350 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: these streets and not being in the streets. Not one 351 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: time they came down there. They were like more they 352 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: started what they were doing, but they respect us hustling 353 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: cause we were more ahtown. He was down there hustling together. 354 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: You know that we're gonna hustle from take work the 355 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: different side of the town. They said, town, come get 356 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: work or whatever. We wouldn't. We weren't on on that 357 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: at the time. You know what I'm saying for us, 358 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: Me and my click and my crew, the niggers I 359 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: funk with. We wasn't worrying about red or blue. Let's 360 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: get this green. There was never an issue with me. 361 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I guess I got blessed 362 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: to be one of the ones that never had an 363 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: issue with nobody like that. You know what I'm saying, 364 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: for us, no, no, no game filiated. Well to be real, 365 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, the be honest with you and James, you 366 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: pably could attested this. Usually the guys to get caught 367 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: up in the guys to be out there and then 368 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: some ship they ain't got no business into anyway, cash 369 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: that used to remain new for the mind and their 370 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: own they really don't have too much to worry about. Often, well, 371 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: a lot of this ship came when the homies just 372 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: started bringing homies out there just to kick it. Them 373 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: the ones that was hanging out and going to the 374 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: stove start and ship with other people. They were not 375 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: there selling ope for nothing. They just out there to 376 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: kick it. But they and then they wind up living there, 377 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, because it's 378 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: totally different from being in the hood. See, in the hood, 379 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: you couldn't get away with all that ship. You go 380 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: out of town, like going to Denver. You know, when 381 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: we went to Denver, you know, it was some homies 382 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: out there that shouldn't have been out there, you know 383 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So he bringing I bring two cats 384 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 1: to the homies to come and kick you down. He 385 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: bringing two of the homies to come kick it. Now 386 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: they're just hanging out doing their thing, you know, the 387 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: game banging thing, and that kind of sucked it up. 388 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: If if if the hustlers and stayed hustling and left 389 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: the homies way to yet, the game would have been, 390 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: it would have stayed tighter, because it seems like Troy 391 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: had this ship wrapped up tight. Because you don't you 392 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: an't even had to go out of town. Need y'all, 393 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: y'all just go around Texas and be good, go around texting, 394 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: be good. You know. Then? Uh, I had a group 395 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: from Kansas City right called Mask One the Seven. Um 396 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: they were cryps, you know what I'm saying, And they 397 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: ride around the k C ship on all down here 398 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: and stuff. I had to get them straight. Hell up, man, 399 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: I respect what y'all got going on, y'all signing my label, 400 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna hustle. I'm o g in this game, man. 401 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: I we don't just go trip called. They got on 402 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: rail or they got on Grail, they got on ONNGE 403 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: or whatever, so y'all be with me, and you see 404 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: the dudes come around, don't y'all start tripping. They're gonna 405 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: respect that y'all. They're gonna respect y'all too, because who 406 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: I am. They ain't gonna just starting no ship. They 407 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: know we're gonna have a big old following out if 408 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: they do. So I had a group that was that 409 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: was crypt and I remem I'm going to Kansas City 410 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: with him. You know what, They ain't going promote in 411 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: Kansas City and go to the club. One side of 412 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: the one side of the club is all all crypt, 413 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: uther side of all Blood. When they're gonna dance for 414 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: their dance and they go back to the side of 415 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: the top they side of the club, and I'm like, Wow, 416 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: what the hell out getting money like this? You know, 417 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: I come down there to get some money. I brought 418 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: some work with me to go for mothe for y'all 419 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: and for me to hook up with everybody and down 420 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: in the city. But I just got me a new 421 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: new trash spot down there in Kansas City and ship right, 422 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, we ain't having Crooked City and all this. 423 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh man, this ain't gonna work. Bro. 424 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: We need make some neutrics type ship and it didn't 425 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: really work. It did, It did all right, you know 426 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: what saying. But I noticed that at that between the times. 427 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: It was in like ninety six when I signed them 428 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: in a six ain't sell when I and then when 429 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: I signed a major label to signed to major label, 430 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: they was having the issues and stiff called they couldn't 431 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: go everywhere you know what they called when they go 432 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: they're flagging, and where they go they're flagging totally. So 433 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: now I go with them. We're going up as another side, 434 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: the other side of town and stuff. Mothercker knew I was, 435 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: They're like Detroit. They your boys tripping, I said, Now, many, 436 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: that's just what they're They're different Kansas City, Broy. They 437 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: just done it with me, made my group. They're good. 438 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: They're good, I mean, but I had to really talk 439 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: to a lot of other people because they thought they 440 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: were flagging. You know, if you're flagging, you bought about it, 441 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: you know. And to the day, I have never learned 442 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: that one of their game signs. Now, I can't throw up, 443 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: not one sign. And I had some crips with me 444 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: as my as my uh my artists out of signed 445 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: the lay, I don't signed a deal with the people 446 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: out of New York. We're getting money. But I didn't 447 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: never let them what they were doing dragged me into 448 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: what they had going on. I never let what they 449 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: were doing dragged me into. I feel like, no, I'm 450 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: gonna drag all over on my side. One man as 451 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: being a hustler, that where we can go what we 452 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: wanted to go and do what we need to do. 453 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: But that I felt that a little bit when I 454 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: had that group, wasn't that I did. Never. I never 455 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: had no issues. No were Hey, let's pay some bills 456 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: real quick and we get right back to y'all. All right, 457 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: So you are there hustling and doing your thing. You see, 458 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: if you went and sat, I don't do to be 459 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: the ninety one, right, yeah, ninety one, I wouldn't be 460 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: did a bid ninety one? Come back in ninety three, 461 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: and that's when you came out, And that's when Short 462 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: Start Records really start cracking and doing anything. Right. No, 463 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: I first I went to jail, already put our scar 464 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: face for then. So you had already put our star 465 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: face and went to jail and came back out and 466 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: jump in the game again. Yeah, I went to jail 467 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: and then eight and nine. You know what I'm saying. 468 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I put star faces at eight and nine. 469 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: I want to jail to niny one and uh now 470 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: I come back. In ninety three, I was by myself. 471 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: My brothers done over, like my little Histan gangster at 472 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: the same time, you know what I'm saying. So then 473 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: I started doing that when I put out masks when 474 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: they're seven, you know, And I put out another little 475 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: group and stuff and ain't the six and ain't seven. 476 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: Then I was like, fund this, man, this ain't work. 477 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: I gotta put myself out. Tell you what I put 478 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: myself out in night sitting fat down South, I said, 479 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: I put myself on the cuff. I got an age 480 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: five hundred, big old Mercedes beings Coop, I got rolegs, 481 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: I got Jerry, I got the money and people know 482 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: who I am. So what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna 483 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: do my own album. Well I did my own album 484 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: and then then I put um everybody out of the 485 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: neighborhood on my album and it popped off called I 486 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: wasn't never was afraid to go nowhere and promote my ship. 487 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, when when I had the 488 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: other groups, they can't go everywhere cause they're flagging and 489 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: where they go, you know what saying? So I can 490 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: go to in the car watch, in the brewers shop 491 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: in the hood neighborhood. I jumped out into my big 492 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: old callac or or my my coop Mercedes Beings, and 493 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 1: I got CDs, I got concepts, and I got all 494 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: this ship. I'm selling ship every motherfucking day, you know 495 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was hustling. I took the game 496 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: from selling rocks to sellers. First, I thought, I said 497 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: the cassette tapes when I had scared face, and you 498 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: know what, and and and to be real with you, 499 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: sitting fat down South with your label's biggest selling EP 500 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: of LP of all time, whenn't, yeah, sitting fat down South? 501 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: You know that? When I put that one of the 502 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: ball and all the other songs on there, you know 503 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But that was me just putting other 504 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: people that know how to wrap out my city on 505 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: with me and let me go promote it. Let me 506 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: be the face instead of me putting somebody else on 507 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: the face. And then they don't want to leave their high. 508 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: They don't only leave their gal and they don't want 509 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: to go promote. And I'm in the clubs every night. 510 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm in the hood every day. Every day I'm leaving 511 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: out the house. I got a bunch of wax. I 512 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: was selling wax at one time. To see the twelve 513 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: inch vinyl, I just said twelve in vinyl and cast 514 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: on the cone in the hood. Then when I didn't 515 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: sit fat down south, I put it out. And then 516 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: I called a case in eight right case. And so 517 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: I come back and said, you know what, I'm gonna 518 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: tip of this album out. I put the album out, 519 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: and while I'm fighting the case and fair case and 520 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: ship the album pop off. I thought. While he was 521 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: fighting the case, fighting the case, so come no room 522 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: signed for some time now he is, I got a 523 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: video playing on BT song playing and everything. You know 524 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when I had them to give 525 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: me some maxture time and I went on and got 526 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: the promoted right kept it going. So and I shot 527 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: a moving while I was gone. Before I left, I 528 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: shot a moving in twel days. I saw my parts 529 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: in fol days, so I let somebody let my people 530 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: don't put the movie, and I went sat down in 531 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: in January. In the d similar January Decemblary went to jail. 532 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: I sat down there. Uh, you didn't had eighteen months 533 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: come home when I signed with Universal. You didn't go 534 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: major till you came home. Yeah, I didn't know that 535 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: I signed a deal with him. You know what I'm saying. 536 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: I signed to deal with the jail, but I couldn't 537 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: go promote or do nothing. But it already had legs. 538 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: You know what they called turning drapead car and say 539 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: made the people down in New York looking for you, Bro. 540 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: I said, we're looking for my t He's a man 541 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: universe Rugg trying to sign you. I said, Man, I'm 542 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: gonna go to jail, bro. He said, Man, they were 543 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: trying to holt you, Bro. So uh he put on 544 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: the phone with a month of living them. Then they 545 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: flew down the next day because I had a show 546 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: I was doing, still doing shows. I went to jail. 547 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: They came down holiday means flew me to New York. 548 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: The next day. I did a deal with him, and 549 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: then I came back home. And the one later I 550 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: went I went to jail. Did you tell him? Did 551 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: you tell them? White folks? She was going to jail 552 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: when you went down there and signed that paper with them. Now, 553 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: did I know I ain't telling them. I know I 554 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: ain't know exactly what I was gonna get you, So 555 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: I ain't I need to tell y'all. Not time I 556 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: get this trade. Not you know what I'm saying, ain't 557 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: no wrong with that. You when you say I'm gonna 558 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: go get this check before I go to jail, they 559 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: ain't gonna know that I'm gonna get this check and 560 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: maybe gonna figure it out. They're trying to play me 561 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: at first, though. They ain't think I knew. I din't 562 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: know anything. I knew to new the paperwork and new 563 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: the business. You know that. They flew me to New 564 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: York by myself, but I caught my lot in Philadelphia. 565 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: He he flew, he throw the train down there. We 566 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: end up going old paperwork and they see me reading 567 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: everything in line for line, line for line, line for line, 568 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: and I don't like this. Just don't take this out, 569 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: take this out, take this out. I mean, they were 570 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: tripping to see my law. You're not doing all that, 571 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: and I was doing it. But I've been reading books 572 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: about the business. You know. Then when I go to 573 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: take a ship. I said, don't read a book. Well, 574 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: I need on the count the husts for a little bit. 575 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: I go to then read the book. We don't have 576 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: the internet then, so I had to learn the business. 577 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: So when so I went to jail, I called him 578 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: about four months before I started getting out of jail 579 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: right and say, y'all, look here, I think, get out 580 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: of jail. We need to start the big baller shot 581 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: called the walk to Walk, Talk to Talk, fresh off lock. 582 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: We need to start doing all this, get some ship 583 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: going on, you know what saying. They was like, nah, trouble. 584 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to wait till you come home and 585 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: all this ship is. I came home, my amost fun 586 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: with him no more. Oh so you just told to 587 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: give you a release? Yeah, living high Toya played this time. Right. 588 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: When I come home, I tell munch of you don't 589 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: think eight months here go my album coup. I want 590 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: to put my album And he said, yub Man, we 591 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: need to uh just my release date. He said, trub 592 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: we can't get you no release date too. We hear 593 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: the music. I said, what you mean you need to 594 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: hear the music? He say, well, they ain't all the 595 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: department need to hear what you're gonna put out. I said, 596 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: hell up out my I'm on. I'm the A and R. 597 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: When y'all heard my album was always already out selling, 598 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: and that that's why y'all came to me. So I'm 599 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: not gonna send my music down there and let somebody 600 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: hear my music and tip what they like. That's not 601 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: what that's not what's gonna happen, you know. So they 602 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: didn't want to give me h release date. I said, 603 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna just put this mother out my 604 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: goddamn self. Month to come on. Now, you're trying to 605 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: stop my liblihood. So he said, you know what you're 606 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: we don't make some money to goods. You've been great 607 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: artists and no problem with you. I'm gonna release you. 608 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: I said, cool. So he released me the next day. 609 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: The two days later, I wait, I say, monthy, I 610 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: call him any money. They ain't trub what's going on? 611 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: You're coming back? I said, Now, I ain't get that 612 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: check yet. He said what check? I say that pay? 613 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: He play check for one fifty? He say what? I said, 614 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: look in the contract, y'all put my next album. You 615 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: gotta not you gotta give me one fifty and you 616 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: still gotta pay me, he said, let me call you back. 617 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: He hung up. T Hey, trys in the mill you 618 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: had tomorrow. I had a pair of play uh in 619 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: the contract and then put my album out. They had 620 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: to pay me. Now that's some cold ship right there. 621 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: So I got one fifty from him just to let 622 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: me off. Let me off they label. Yeah, and if 623 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 1: I'm correct, that next ship you put out blew up, 624 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: didn't it? Now? I didn't do the world tracing blew up. 625 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: I put that. I put the album I with Cots 626 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: when the Cots and got the sixty farter deal. So 627 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: now I'm gonna really get paid. You know what I'm saying. 628 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get paid paid. So for the album came, 629 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: I sip team and levem to talk uh and then 630 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: up everything. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know, 631 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: rest in peace to all the people in fact that 632 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: because we're not laughing at that day. Ladies in general 633 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: were laughing at the sixth pastion he was in because 634 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: everybody to put a record out that week, flock everybody, 635 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: the last person. It was a bunch of us. There 636 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: was a bunch of us that put the record out 637 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: of the day. There's a bunch up that job. I 638 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: can't think anybody names, but it was a bunch of 639 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of albums that put out that day, and 640 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: everything that went with Salt, you know what saying. And 641 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: and and then my my business, it took me under 642 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: cause when I got a side of the Cotch, I 643 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: had a big old ass like a little mansion, not 644 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: now a little manti down the mansion. Really all the 645 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: calls I wanted and say, that is the three my 646 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: safes being the Cadilliac, the vans I had navigated, had everything, 647 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: all the jey I want. So now this this deal 648 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: with Cotch, I'm getting sixty four to the deal. I 649 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: can you know what I say, relaxing and you know, 650 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, kick back now. But ship when that, when 651 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: that happened, that that made me go on the ground. 652 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean that took took a lot of people out 653 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: of business. I just never jumped off the building and 654 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: killed myself. And the you know what saying, But my 655 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: money drive up, when universal money drive up with Cotch, 656 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 1: the money driver with saltwe's wholesale. We was all just 657 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: like i'na about the Southwest holesale C James Southwest Hole 658 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: Sale was a big distributor down there, you know, because 659 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: New Chance, Texas was selling a bunch of records. Didn't 660 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: have to war to Texas. Then motherfucker's that filed bankruptcy 661 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: and all I remember his motherfucker's calling my line that day. 662 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: Talk about, man, these motherfucker's don't give me my money. 663 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: Somethings gonna happen. You remember that day with Southwest so 664 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: Stale like filed the bankruptcy ship and Nick closed the doors. 665 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: Look before they closed though. Right now I'm saying that 666 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: made am like a half million dollars sucking with him 667 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: right on one bill bawling. And then when I still 668 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: had about I think twenty some dollin records still sitting 669 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: on the ground, as I was said, when the university 670 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: came in and picked me up. I made a deal 671 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: with them and let me see about my color first, 672 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: for y'all put your ship out. I got some moment 673 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: out there here, cold motherfucker Troit. Let me ask you this, 674 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: because you gotta bringing business mind, do you ever consult? 675 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: Because I noticed it's very few of the artists in 676 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: Houston wind up getting sucked over it. You know, it's 677 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: a few open that do. But you don't hear a 678 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: whole bunch of them horror stories. Do you use the game? 679 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: The young homies up before they jump in the game. Man, 680 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: they don't come ask you know what I'm saying, a 681 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: cloth don't get fed. But a lot of them they 682 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: don't feel by the wayside, you know, they ain't. They 683 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: ain't get the money supposed to get the as then 684 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: making money off a lot of this stuff they've been doing. 685 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: It's just not publicized or nothing, like you said. You know, Man, 686 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: if if they come and talk to me, I lay 687 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: them up, you know you you know Universal Records almost 688 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: have my master's Damn me like that, James. I'm just 689 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: sitting there tripping there his brothers sitting there and and 690 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: you know, because I'm on the other side where you know, 691 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: I've seen the pimping going on. But the pimp and 692 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: pimping is what I'm listening to right here. Actually getting 693 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: your money when I when I gave you, when I 694 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: gave you Universal to add I gave him a CD 695 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: and they made copies off of it. You just so 696 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: you just gave the albums you would already put out 697 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: and saying, here, you're gonna press this ship. Make y'alls 698 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: on copas. They can't. They can't remix not one song 699 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: on my ship. I got the rills. So let me 700 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: ask you this. So you didn't give them niggas none 701 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: of the files get Troy, you know while we're laughing, 702 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: because I love it, dog, you beat the motherfucker's that 703 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: their own game pretty much, and you were so hot 704 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 1: in the streets they couldn't do them, but accept it. 705 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: They don't. They asked me why back for the reels 706 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: and all that I gotta give him together. I got 707 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: other songs on that I gotta transform, and I ain't 708 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: never gave him ship, he said he gave and just 709 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: let it go. Hey, what they're gonna come down and 710 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: take it? No that I ain't gonna do it, you 711 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: know what. So one thing I always wanted to ask you, 712 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: because you clarify something. Scar Face had the name Scarface 713 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: before he went over the rapid lot. What made you 714 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: decide like like when that happened, like you don't put 715 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: all your time and invested your energy into this artist. Man. 716 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: You say you were standing at your mom's house and 717 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: then he comes to you want to go somewhere else? 718 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: How was that? Was that a hard conversation? Yeah? Long, 719 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: and I don't make Monther's Street. I had made no 720 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: moment's car face music. Yet that wasn't no big deal, 721 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was like ship, go ahead, 722 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: I ain't dripping on that ship, go ahead, I get 723 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: another artist. I care about that ship at the time, 724 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then with a James 725 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: girl and put it out. He called me and told me, 726 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, saying, he needs to ill at me. You 727 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So he came and talked to him. 728 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: I said, Jay, man, I ain't worrying about that man. 729 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Whatever you want to do 730 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: with friends, you can do it. Phrase, I don't care 731 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: about that. He said, look out, look out, try This 732 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: is what I do for you. Once I get it popping, 733 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: I get it going on, I'll come back and look 734 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: out for you and give you some distribution to help 735 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: you out some gunna weight. All right, how let me 736 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: when you get the popping there. And I ain't trib me, 737 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: but after right now today he never helped me out. 738 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: Get I went to him for a favor, and he 739 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: didn't give me the favor I asked for. Hey, what 740 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: it is? I kept it popping, You just kept it moving. 741 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, when the um when your 742 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: song blew up? Want to be a baller blew up? 743 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Did he come front of Hill action everybody? Then they 744 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: tried to get me to put my album, my song 745 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: on on the RealAge Niggers Down South album when they 746 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: came out, the realag Niggers Down South. They want to 747 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: want to be a ball to be on that. I'm like, no, 748 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: y'all can't have my man, and so I don't like, 749 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: give you one of the other songs the niggas a 750 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: bitch in my book or something. I'll have one of 751 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: them songs. But other than that, we ain't had no 752 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: no ties together, no kind of way. You know what 753 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now you from now, you from South Park? Yeah, 754 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: south side, south side, y'all have y'all used to have 755 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: a lot of beef. Like I noticed down there in Texas. 756 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: This used to be the north side against the south side. 757 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: That ship used to jump off, didn't it. Yeah, yep, 758 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: we still went to the clubs out there. You still 759 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: wanted you still when the clubs, there was a lot 760 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: of niggers getting their cars, taking all kinds of ship, 761 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: wasn't it. Yeah, that were back in the day. But 762 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, I ain't never had nobody to take my car, 763 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: try to take my call, trying to jack me nothing. 764 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: You know, if I've never had that issue. Most of 765 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: them knew me, you know what I'm saying, And they 766 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: just got me to losing man back in the day. 767 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: So you know I had that little little man that 768 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: little man complex too. You feel the back nothing I have. 769 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: I ain't had no big brother, so I'm my own 770 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: big brother, you know what I'm saying. So we've made 771 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: it through all that ship like this like that, you know, 772 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, because I went to I said, James, ain't 773 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: looking at man. Look, I got a couple of bricks 774 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: to the side. Bro, I'll do a mask and might say, Man, 775 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 1: give me sending the five thousand and I'll pay you back. 776 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: Ain't no contracts and nothing, just allowing me the money. 777 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: And that way I can have some money just to 778 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: keep on flash. And I had a couple of bricks, 779 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: need to get rid of here and there and ship. 780 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: But he said, I say, I need some money and 781 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: I need some contacts. He's a ship contact, more than 782 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: poor than the money. You So just like that. I 783 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: don't forget that, man. I think we'll give me both 784 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: the man, we'll talk about it, you know what they 785 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: But at the time, I think I went here to 786 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: lick or something, and you know, I'm saying I ain't 787 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: need it, so I know back, I know when I 788 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,959 Speaker 1: never really went back and pursued it and asking forward, 789 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was all good. Yeah, 790 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: you know Troy and the thing it was, man, everybody 791 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: out talked to tell me what it real cats you 792 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 1: WHI was man and me just I was just sitting 793 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: there for the talk to you. Man. It's refreshing to 794 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: be able to talk to a motherfucker that actually got 795 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: some backbone to him, you know what I mean. Yeah, appreciate, appreciate, 796 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And um, so you having 797 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: all this success going on, you did another standing shield, 798 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: didn't you. I just did that one and the fast 799 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: thing that when I got the fair, they ain't been back. 800 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: So you've been living clean since then? Man, with all 801 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: this stuff going on, and like, um, with all the 802 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: stuff that's going on like in Houston right now and 803 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: in Dallas, like all the killing and stuff that's going on. Man, 804 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: what you think about that down there? You think these 805 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: cats just influenced to influenced by what's going on TV 806 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: and everywhere else. They too, They to influenced by something. 807 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: I don't know what the funking is, because we just 808 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't killing each other like that at the time. You 809 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: know that, well I didn't. You know what I'm saying, 810 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: You can't fuck with me. You're gonna get the business. 811 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: That's just That's just it, you know I sing. But 812 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: other than that, I'm trying to make some money with you. 813 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't give it down. Where are you from? What's 814 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 1: going on? This makes some money, you know what I'm saying. 815 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: When I was locked up, I was looking out my mother. 816 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: When I was locked up in the fair and ship, 817 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking out for mother down in the faces. I'm 818 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: looking out for niggers that I got in the world, 819 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: keeping them popping called that. You know, I was a 820 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: manazed source, so I still was able to, you know, 821 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: make things happen for him while I was didding the 822 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: fas and ship. You know what I'm saying, And um. 823 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: Then I had money coming in from the Universal to 824 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was, I was 825 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: good and too scoff frace suit me. I get the letter, 826 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: my lawyer come, my lawyer and my wife, well, my girlfriend. 827 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,439 Speaker 1: Rather the time they come to the feens, I said, 828 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: damn Waring, what you're doing here, Papa? I got something 829 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: the bad news for you? I said, what too many 830 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: bad news? What's going on? Scoff Frey suing you? I 831 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: said for what? He said, Well, he's suing you for 832 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: a half million dollars because you put that that song 833 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: that you did with him on your album and you 834 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: use his vocals. I say, man, then they've suing me 835 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: for real. Once to say, man, they suing you man? 836 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: And so I worked to deal out with scoff phrase. 837 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: I gave him two and twenty dollars you know what 838 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, off the album Universal pay them 839 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: on my behalf and then you know I got out. 840 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: You know, me and him may have some little issues 841 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: and ship going around for a little while. And know Beef, 842 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: it was like on TV type beef on wax Beef. 843 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: We wein't there. We never had no issue. When we've 844 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: seen each other or nothing like that, you know, and 845 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: now today that we're good friends. You know, we talked 846 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: every couple of weeks. Oh see each other. We laugh 847 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: and talk about it and all that. Still, but you know, 848 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: when he sued me, I was piste off like a 849 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: motherfucker two and twin thought not said. We didn't need 850 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: to give his bit of condo. It was just a 851 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: piece of condo about all calls something. They gotta help you. 852 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: I got your start, and now you want to sue 853 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: me because I put sample your voice on the songs 854 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: of mine. You know what I'm saying. You want to 855 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: sue me? Yeah, but I sell it with him. Yeah, 856 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: but you know it. What's good to hear thold man 857 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: that y'all both grown me in Abu and y'all put 858 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: that ship behind y'all and y'all kicking it. You know 859 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: what I mean. Oh, we took ten years. It took 860 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: over ten years, old folk, before we started kicking it. Though. 861 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: We were beefing, and we would be from talking about 862 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: your own songs and and podcasts and everything else for 863 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: a good while. It went down. So he actually got 864 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: you out of your character. He took you out of character. 865 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: No they no, No, he didn't take me out of 866 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: character calls. It had been one of us would have 867 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: been here. I feel you, feel you. Yeah, so I 868 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: knew I couldn't wrap against scoff He made songs by men. 869 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: You know that they're talking about men and stuff. Okay, 870 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: that's cool. I made a DVD about them. I put 871 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: a DVD out on them. You know what I'm saying. 872 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: I know how to win the game. Now. I'm gonna 873 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: win a fight. I might not win the way you 874 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: wanted to play the play the game. I'm gonna play 875 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: the game how I know how to win the game. No, 876 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: since sin since you are good friends now and this 877 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: is all stuck this out in the public record. I 878 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: never got to see the dvd. What was on the dvd? Oh, man, boy, 879 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: I look at paperwork. It was called paperwork. A friend 880 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: of mine, I adin't know, a little nigga guy out 881 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: of jail, and um Scoffrey was on this paperwork and 882 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: he can't hell mean little short say man, here is 883 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: Coffred and no talking about you, bro. I'm from I'm 884 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: from Softwolk where you are, bro? Hey, look at the 885 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: papers right here, man, don't let them get away with it. 886 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 1: And I seen the paper and read it. I was like, whoa, Okay, 887 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: hold up, got my angle back now because I can't 888 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: have wrap face. Ain't too many mother's round you're gonna 889 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: wrap face period on a record time y'all put a 890 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: DVD I at the time, and and and and and 891 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: with with a with a soundtrack to it, and I 892 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: had the motherucker people so scared to look at it, 893 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: people like I don't want to see that about I 894 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: don't want to see that's that's too real. It was 895 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: too real. Record store, some of the recortoes didn't want 896 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: to pick it up. Dudes are like tripping, how the 897 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: fund you get this? What's fun? I mean that was 898 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: tripping on how I put a DVD together and told 899 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: the whole life story with me and face in my 900 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: life and everything on a DVD and with the paperwork 901 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: and ship. Oh man, I will go out of town 902 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: if I find out he was doing the show. I 903 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: would go out of town. Where you're gonna do a 904 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: show to pass our flyers and stuff? Look who's talking? 905 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: Scared face of the GETT boys to give it these 906 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: you stabbing me? And you know what's cold that he 907 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: was stabbing. Not only that he wouldn't have made some 908 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: money off the beef. He's setting strategem make some money 909 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: off this. But they are y'are the friends now, y'all? 910 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He came back and trying to 911 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: suit me and stuff and everything again. And we we 912 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: met up and talked and we we were boys. Now 913 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: I can talk about the ship now, you know what 914 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It ain't no problem, you know, you know, uh. 915 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: I used must say nothing about it too much because 916 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: we're boys, not this ship behind us. But that's the 917 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: point our history, no history. You can't notot you can't 918 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: omit history. That's cool. And you know that that's all 919 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: water under the bridge. I feel I can cause that 920 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: on the phone right now. Yeah, have the phone about birthing. 921 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: Ain't gonna say, you know what I'm saying. And we 922 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 1: laugh and talk. We did facing Willie did a few 923 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, facing my Li brother talk 924 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: on the phone all the time from prison. My brother 925 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: got may my Li brothers will lie down. I need 926 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: to put this ad on the phone, like y'all. This 927 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,959 Speaker 1: day got a big old thirty five is TV hanging 928 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: from the burglar balls covered on the floor. Everything in prison, 929 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: headphones is radio, his cell phone and everything right now. 930 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: And see if I get him on the phone, that's 931 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: how I really uh man, man, my brothers will lie 932 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: down there, man. Chronicles exclusive, y'all guys, the chronicles that 933 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: they know what I'm saying here, krip, What's I'm saying? 934 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: He plays when he was, he played, he was seven teams. 935 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: He's something and he's still he all just I'm doing active. 936 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: He tried to talk to him about life now called 937 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: he's much older and stuff. But he all of them 938 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: know him, you know, everybody know him in the prison. 939 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he just like that. We're texting right queck. 940 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 1: He gonna get the phone though, you know he don't 941 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: call right back over and call right back. WHI y'all here, week, 942 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: we got we got us a little time. We got 943 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: a little time. Okay, we're gonna tap in with some 944 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: of the sponsors that help us to bring your this 945 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: amazing content. Now, you know, try one of the things 946 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, man, we're talking about Houston, 947 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: is there a divide between Houston and Dallas? Because it 948 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: seemed like Dallas like a whole different Damn state. When 949 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 1: you hold the culture, the whole coach is different. Dallas 950 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: there using like two different states. That's like northern California 951 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: and southern California. It's like two different states. You know that. 952 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: We don't fix all calls up like they fixed their 953 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: calls up. We don't drink like they dress. We don't 954 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: have no how culs like they. Well, we don't drink, 955 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, we drink serve and shit down here. How 956 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: we started that ship down here? They don't do that 957 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: ship down and data up there and Dallas like we 958 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 1: do here. You know what? But now, well we tried, 959 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: Dallas niggas try to come out and do songs with 960 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: certain Houston niggas and stuff, trying to get on, but 961 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: it's never made nothing pop. I don't know why. It's 962 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 1: just never been a big Dallas Houston connect And they're 963 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: doing a bunch of shows and songs together and all that. 964 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: It just ain't never just popped off on a while time. 965 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: That's crazy. You know you mentioned that, sirup Man, And 966 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: it's a big opiate epidemic in the country. Man. There's 967 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: people like especially in the Midwest and the South dog 968 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: and he should even know here people is on them peels. Now, 969 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: what do you think about that whole serup scene? Do 970 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: you think that, like, what do you think about that? 971 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: Because it was a big part of the culture, man, 972 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: and that ship when Nation wid Yeah, I was one 973 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,959 Speaker 1: of the ones that will put it out there, Troy, 974 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: don't give a funk doing I don't want I want 975 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: the man one that that was that was a contribut that. Hey, 976 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: but I wouldet it. Bro Well, I've been hanging out 977 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: with you. Would be a motherfucker just hanging out with 978 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: you a mother laugh. Oh, dog, we go to Houston, 979 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: Troy will be our host. Dog. I don't want to 980 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: nobody else with him. Man, I had to connect with it, 981 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we did it, man, 982 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: I say, we did it, man. And it was nothing 983 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: for us to have two three hundred gallons at the time. 984 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: Two gallons and how much that should go? How much 985 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: is a four? How much do gallons like? Eighteen hundred 986 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: hundred gallons at the time, gallony that should be about 987 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: about now? About we engaged the crowning was we're adding 988 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: up drug show. No, I'm sorry, man, you know, I'm sorry. 989 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: This is just a leg that what it was back then. 990 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I tell many of you 991 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: ain't cast me back then. You missed me. You shot 992 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 1: straight with shot late. You know I'm saying, because I 993 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: ain't been involved in none of nothing, nothing illegal and 994 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: ship since I got out of prison back then when 995 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: I dropped the got out from them from dropping sitting 996 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: fed down south. You know what I'm saying. I ain't 997 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: involved with nobody at all. But I did tell I 998 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: tell you this. I bought some laying up in susan 999 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: Uh Suserville, California, right for the acres and put me 1000 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: sitting two plants in the ground down it right, So 1001 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: you jumped in the weed business then, yeah, and they 1002 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:09,240 Speaker 1: made me jump right back at the police called police 1003 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: called me my son sent my son down there to 1004 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: learn how to cultivate. So you're done, then learn how 1005 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: to cultivate. And know I got all I'm paid by 1006 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: all the seeds of saw everything. We got plants in 1007 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: the ground. Send the two plants. Police flew the helicopter 1008 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: over and seeing that we've seen uh plants on the 1009 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: ground coming up, they called me, called my name is 1010 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: on the deeds of the land. They called me, asked 1011 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 1: me that I know somebody my property. You know, grown 1012 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: mel I wanna, yep, we got all proposition three for whatever. 1013 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: The proposition was that that we had to have a 1014 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: grown male. Wanna, I said, we got it. She said, well, um, 1015 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 1: I see that you don't have a dwelling house on 1016 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: the property and a fit the foot well. I said, well, 1017 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: we're working on that right now. So I go and 1018 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: find uh a mobile home. I bought them mobile home. 1019 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: But that's the saying day I get it. I called 1020 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: the people trying to get the whale. Did fitting for 1021 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: Well Doug? I can't get the well? Doug said, ain't 1022 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: giving no permits. Oh so that sounds like the whole 1023 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: little play. They got a whole little place everybody. Yeah, 1024 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: that's how they shut me down. Then everybody else would 1025 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: have been doing it. You've just seen mobile homes and 1026 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: whales all over that month. But see, now, if I 1027 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: knew that we need a fitting for Well Doug, I 1028 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: could have dug the wellow time I got on the property. 1029 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was already there when 1030 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: I got there. I could even said that, you know 1031 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, before I started playing out. You know, 1032 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: I take a water, get off, get your plane, start 1033 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: growing and get big. I could have been dug dug 1034 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: a well, but they never said that. And so my 1035 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: boy my son then went to the to the town 1036 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 1: hall meeting. Some people was cussing like a motherfucker everybody 1037 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: up there and through the red they've been selling men 1038 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: wanted to be growing it all these years. They never 1039 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: had to have a fitting for the well. Doug. Yeah, 1040 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: you know what they're saying that. I was looking at 1041 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: some ship the other day on TV and they're seeing 1042 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: men that they each them people so much with this ship. Man, 1043 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: people going out of business. Dog. They said, it's forcing 1044 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 1: motherfucker's to where if you ain't got no street connects 1045 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: with the ship and steal hustle inside, you can out 1046 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 1: of business. They worked for them, man, Yeah, pretty much. 1047 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 1: They're making it to where a lot of people that's 1048 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: been in Big James family owned businesses to go back 1049 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: generations where that's what the grandpa did. That's just what 1050 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: they do. He said, Man, they thought it was gonna 1051 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: be better. They pushed for bigg position. They said that 1052 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: ship putting them almost making them homeless. They showed knock 1053 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: knocked me at the box on a nice mind of 1054 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: land and you know, getting up them staying out there, 1055 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 1: living out my son, my son is a rapper head. 1056 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: Just not told him a man. Dad on something else? 1057 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 1: Right now, go down in California, still on this property 1058 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,439 Speaker 1: during How the coulde? They're gonna be our kids kids 1059 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: kids kids feature you know what I'm saying. So he 1060 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: did it. But the counting, you know saying, made me 1061 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: take all them plats up. I had to take all 1062 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: of this. Oh now it's good, it should be good. Now. 1063 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: I told the property I ain't gonna deal with it 1064 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: no moment. You know what it was like, you just 1065 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: ain't so frustrated. But you know what, if you could 1066 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: have held onto that land, Troy, you you have hagged 1067 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: your way eventually on that motherfucker dog. Because I don't 1068 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: know it's people making the you know what, I just 1069 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: can't ye ain't gonna talk too much. I hadn't. I 1070 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: had never seen the landing for I just bought the 1071 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 1: land off, just bought the land. They came down in, 1072 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: we did the deeds and signed the paper's hill. You 1073 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: know they had notary hill. I bought it from somebody 1074 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: down there, and I've never been to California. Never seen 1075 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: the land that was step foot on the lane at all, 1076 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: Miss Green. I just was a man, I invance. I'm 1077 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: an us. That's money though, that's money because even with 1078 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 1: the property, so you really didn't you lost something because 1079 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: of the setting two plants, of course, but you got 1080 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: paid for your problem. And I'm pretty sure you got 1081 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: what you paid for. The mores on the call. They 1082 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: couldn't nobody because at the time they weren'tlet nobody to 1083 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 1: grow on somebody anybody really want to buy? That's crazy. 1084 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: And I make sure they're growing all kinds of ships 1085 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: in that property now now everybody no those from years back. 1086 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: But I jumped in the game. I jumped in and 1087 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 1: went at it. Have you ever had any reservations? So 1088 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: you got so you're not working with it no more? 1089 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,760 Speaker 1: Then on stops about. I got a bunch of weeds, 1090 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: stocks and stuff like that, A bunch of bunch of 1091 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: stocks and stuff and a lot of its in cannabis 1092 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, hoping that the boom in the 1093 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: next couple of years or something, and I'm really get 1094 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: paid from it. You know what, man, One one thing 1095 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking, I wish you could invest in our 1096 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: government dog because this seems like they know how to 1097 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 1: go out and get money from every motherfucker body. You 1098 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: figure they taxed some motherfucker's that go to work every day, 1099 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: athletes the way they taxed them. Motherfucker's are entertainment. Text 1100 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: every city you and they get to dig in your pockets. 1101 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: If you're in the weed game, they're texting you for this, 1102 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: texting you for that. It's like, how does the motherfucker's 1103 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 1: supposed to stay leghit? It's a hard hard you know, 1104 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: it's hard. You know what I'm saying you, I don't 1105 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,760 Speaker 1: want to wrap no more. You don't saying I gratfuly 1106 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: bowled out. You know what I'm saying. They adn't like 1107 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: I had to stop rapping. I just gratefully bowled out, Like, 1108 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: hey man, I had my fun, I had my run, 1109 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: I made some money. Most of the best we a 1110 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: bunch of bitches. Hey, I'm good seeing a lot of states. 1111 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm good. I met a lot of people. I'm good. 1112 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: I ain't gotta do it them all. I got a 1113 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: platinum plaque on the wall to show my shoe wasn't platinum, 1114 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: I said, I got platinum plaque on my wall back 1115 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: here to show that. Ain't I've been successful to me? 1116 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 1: You know that what I do it again or not 1117 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: or whatever, I'm successful to me? I made it to me. 1118 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah you sure did, man. And the thing 1119 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: use you said a lot of regors. One thing I 1120 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, though, how the hell did you 1121 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 1: get a print sample? Clear? Because because motherfucker's argue me down, 1122 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: I say, that's a little red corvette in the back 1123 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 1: of that rigor you know what I mean that? Yeah, 1124 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: you're right. Look at after we put it out of 1125 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: the universe, I got it. It's going up the short 1126 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 1: They called me the trump that was that Trence on 1127 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: the red card. I said, yep, you didn't tell us. 1128 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: I said, y'all ass you say they did, But they 1129 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: couldn't hear everybody can't hear everybody because what we did. 1130 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: You came on a special twelve inch of Prince that 1131 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: he had put out, and we took it and we 1132 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: played it and showed it down. We replayed that. That's 1133 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: not as your sample as we played. Yeah, they we 1134 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 1: played the hill off that ship man, because you know what, 1135 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: we replayed that. We re made that song like that 1136 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: and then Prince was like, heard it, you know, sent 1137 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: it to him. He's like, I like what they did. 1138 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: I don't want nothing from it. That's our Prince. Either 1139 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: he go fun with you, were he not? That's what 1140 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: I heard that he either go funk with you were not? 1141 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: And he very much for the artist, you know what 1142 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: I mean? I don't know. It's too many of them 1143 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: out there like that that lookout like that, like like you, 1144 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: little Troy, you know how you look out for your people, 1145 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: make sure everybody got money. It ain't too many that 1146 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: do that. Oh no, it ain't too many of them 1147 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: like that. And the force of the ones that he 1148 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: was like that, they usually wind up up and dead. 1149 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's a whole another story. 1150 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: Because because Prince was on some ship. Man, you know, 1151 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: you're being the music industry, Troy. You wanted the few 1152 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: people who don't actually lick them at their own game 1153 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,839 Speaker 1: and beat them at their own ship, don't you find it? Man? 1154 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: You look at Michael Jackson all the because you know 1155 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: about publishing revenue, right, all that money Michael Jackson made, 1156 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: all that money Prince made, and then both of them 1157 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: motherfucker's was on some ship like, we don't need no 1158 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,359 Speaker 1: record label. We're not working with y'all at all at all, 1159 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: and they wind up dead. Do you think it was 1160 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: some kind of fire play POSTI behind all that ship? 1161 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 1: I well, it's that kind of money involved, and O 1162 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 1: telling coach, you know, people don't like to pay out 1163 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: when that kind of money involved. And and they had 1164 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: it that they had it in their control that they 1165 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: were they they were there to take the Troy their 1166 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: own destiny at the time. And then the wife was like, no, 1167 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 1: man even to cut us out. Yeah, they don't like 1168 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: to see us tell them out. And then yeah, and 1169 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: can collectively they old Michael Jackson and Prince so much 1170 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: money that they if they would have had to pay 1171 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: them all the once, he would probably bankrupt. They come 1172 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: so they just so it's like you say, man, sometimes 1173 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: it's easier just to go just to go tell a 1174 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: motherfucker night night. You know where they just pray off 1175 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: our weaknesses, oh weaknesses. Oh look, okay, I'm gonna telling 1176 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 1: you somebody else that made a whole bunch of mother money. 1177 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: Theyrenn with whole bunch of motherfucker money off their motherfucking 1178 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 1: as he ate out for their ass day. Don't suck 1179 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 1: with him. He's still doing this thing, living like here, 1180 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: living and stick, you know, keep ship popping, and he 1181 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: and and he's on a bunch of mother records too. 1182 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: He did this motherfucking thing. Huh, he did his motherfucking thing. 1183 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: You know. The soft as a whole though. Man. You 1184 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 1: know what I liked about the South, man, what I 1185 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: like about the South is, especially when Houston was doing 1186 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: their things, that you saw a whole bunch of black 1187 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: people just out there with their your own ship, dog 1188 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: just getting and getting money and get into it, you 1189 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, they just say I'm independent. 1190 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: The money we split the splendid because because I swear 1191 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 1: man with Southwest, whole sale was cracking James, baby, and 1192 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 1: then we used to cash money, baby and let me 1193 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: just go on there get checks. Fucking they get two 1194 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: million dollars. Dog niggas was getting it like that man 1195 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: niggas that she would never hear outside of Texas. Dog down. 1196 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 1: They're getting money like a motherfucker living the mansions and ship. 1197 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: I had some many pre orders man that I go 1198 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: through the pick up check like a motherfucker just on 1199 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: pre order. I tell him if I'm good to work 1200 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: on the project. Give me fifty dollars, give hundred dollars 1201 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: to send the work on this project. Put out. He's 1202 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: a all right, well, I know you're gonna put it out. 1203 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 1: You gonna put it out. I got it. You drop 1204 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 1: a check. I would do. I would drop for all 1205 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: the fifty thousand dollars to you. You know what I'm saying, 1206 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: cause you know you're gonna sell eight nine records and 1207 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: his money back already at eight ten dollars red it 1208 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: at the time. You know what I'm saying, So it 1209 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: won't like the streaming right now that gets zero points 1210 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: here one sent a streaming ship. You know up. I 1211 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: don't know. That's why I stop the game. I'm like now, 1212 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,399 Speaker 1: I don't like to see it. Man, Who who making 1213 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: the money off this ship? Because all this show ain't 1214 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: making the money, not off streams. You gotta do biggons 1215 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: and streams to see some money. I'm sad about car 1216 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: through Starwizosa and getting eight dollars a CD or ten 1217 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: on my own. At eight dollars a CD, I ain't 1218 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: gotta I ain't gotta see that many city either may 1219 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: don't mind it. You feel me? Man, I'm telling you 1220 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: they suck the game up because Doom Times used to 1221 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: be so good exchange and you didn't have to be 1222 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: a famous forever. You can see twenty five thousand units 1223 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: and have a bank roll. So you say they they 1224 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: didn't like that just to take the money out of pocket. 1225 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: You know what, I think a part of I think 1226 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: initially it was just technology, right. I think you know, 1227 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: the technology, and that the ability to deliver music fast 1228 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 1: like that was reading at first. Then I think the 1229 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: white folks aw away that. Okay, it's the way we 1230 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: can lick the game with this, because the way they 1231 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: paid the artists on that ship. The only people making 1232 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: money dog really every month is the streaming sights. Yeah, 1233 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: they gotta pay. They gotta pay for the license in 1234 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 1: and all that ship, though, but they're getting they're getting 1235 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: money from a motherfucker title every month. Once again, why 1236 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 1: would you put your ship on there out there like 1237 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: that and you know you ain't gonna get paid off? 1238 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: Oh it's it's it's a couple of artists to tell 1239 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: motherfucker's don't put my ship on none of them sites. 1240 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: And they want my ship, they gotta come by it 1241 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 1: for me, you know, what I'm saying, you could do 1242 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: it like that too. But eventually all of them dudes 1243 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 1: eventually fold and they wanted to putting their ship on 1244 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: there because they wind up they wind up seeing that 1245 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: the physical game ain't there like it once was. You 1246 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: know when they took the stores down, Man, when I 1247 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: saw a warehouse music closed down, I said it is done. 1248 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: I said, it's a wrap now. When they closed twer 1249 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 1: warehouse and all that ship, I said, it's a wrap now. 1250 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: Sam Good, he used to be record stores from every company, 1251 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: every car. I had a record store. They ain't had 1252 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: one in company. He had Underworld Records. I had Flavored 1253 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: for a year in Paramount. When that ship was done, Dog, 1254 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 1: it was done. Dog, the good old days was done 1255 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: the niggas. But you know what, I'm gonna tell you something, 1256 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: These young cats don't figure out a way to make 1257 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: the Internet work. From some young cats out there making 1258 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: some money. Yeah, but see what you're the best thing 1259 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: to do is to put on the streaming service like that, 1260 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: go to YouTube and monetize your stations, your challenge stuff, 1261 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 1: and run all your music and everything through that way. 1262 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,919 Speaker 1: Right now, That's that's the best thing, you know, Troy. 1263 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: I know you hustling tips. That's why I told you. 1264 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 1: I said we could keep you. Though. We ain't gon 1265 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 1: talk about the whole bunch of music we are because 1266 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 1: it's a big part of who you are. But we 1267 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: canna talk about you some days. You know, I'm gonna 1268 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: go back to that served thing. Do you think served 1269 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: in the state of Texas was more valuable than cocaine 1270 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: at one time? Yea, to all the hustlers hustling cocaine, 1271 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 1: ifout makes your the ad served the cause they thought 1272 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 1: that was the coolest thing to do. You know what 1273 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Anything about you drinking served, that's the coolest 1274 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: thing in the world. You know what I'm saying, because 1275 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: you you know you thank you're having a good time. 1276 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: You're chilling, and you know what I'm saying. But no, 1277 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: you wasn't really chilling. I remember I came home one 1278 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,919 Speaker 1: day and I had some served, right, and I would 1279 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: think my mom and say, what you got in that bottle? 1280 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, let's serup, And hell, you know what 1281 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, simple little serrus. She said, oh, well, we 1282 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 1: have to put you to seat with that serry. Back 1283 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 1: in the day with the bottle them the bottles they 1284 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: bottles and stuff, and give you something. I used to 1285 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,439 Speaker 1: talk all of goddamn time. We put your heads to seat. 1286 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: I think for she say, I'm gon tell you something 1287 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: else too. You called yourself. Won't be the latest man, 1288 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: right you want jump in this bed, in that bed 1289 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 1: and please your lady. You bet leading serrup along. I 1290 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 1: stopped working with it right then. My mama told me, 1291 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: and we're gonna kill my nature. And he killed a 1292 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: lot of natures around this motherfucker back then, early man. 1293 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: You know, and that's a wicked drug dog because when 1294 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: you want the opios, James, you sin serpent ship. Yeah, 1295 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: that's just the wicked ship because they have where. Motherfucker 1296 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: can't take a ship no more dog. Yeah up, they 1297 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: can't take a ship more dog. That's why they got 1298 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: start getting on. Oh here and ship man like that 1299 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: motherfucker's something. You overdose from that ship. You can't breathe. 1300 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't see motherfucker's damn. The dogs like they just loans, 1301 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: just colap what me though, they're going to sleep on it. 1302 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: I won't know. Dogs making me go to sleep. I 1303 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 1: want to be up. I want to be seen. What's 1304 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: going on. I gotta be a well, I gotta go 1305 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: on the top of it. Well, what's going around me? 1306 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 1: But you're on that side, you you would be in 1307 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: the red light. You've been sitting in the chill. You're 1308 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: be in a line and water burger, and you start knowing, 1309 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: not this I'm not doing that serves still cracking like 1310 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: that down there. Keep them the kids working with this stuff. 1311 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: Not to look people don't be honest, they still funk 1312 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: with it. But I don't know what they funk with 1313 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,439 Speaker 1: and what they do. You know, they called I don't 1314 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: live my life in that type of circle normal. You 1315 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,439 Speaker 1: know what my niggas that I funk with do don't 1316 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: do third don't they don't do kindible, they don't do 1317 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 1: that ship like that. And it's one thing I'm gonna 1318 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: tell people because I'm don't judge what people do, man, 1319 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't judge nobody's life what they do. 1320 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: I just wishing the best. But with that sert man um, 1321 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,919 Speaker 1: it leads to where after while the surpup ain't gonna 1322 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: do nothing for you no more. And it's really what 1323 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: we're doing is creating a whole another generation. The heroin attics, 1324 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 1: because what happens is when people can't get them, When 1325 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: people can't get that sirrup, they can't get them peels. 1326 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 1: There's too much money, you know what peoples cast shape pells. 1327 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna pay some serious breath for those. And you 1328 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: know if three or four ain't doing it no more, 1329 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: oh man, you can go get you some of that 1330 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 1: brown hair and winning. And that's when they can start 1331 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: that ship. And this damnly impossible to kick that ship. Man, Like, 1332 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna lose the whole generation of people. Man if 1333 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: we don't wise up with that ship. Oh no, is 1334 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: everybody's the country? Right? Yeah, it ain't just shucks. I 1335 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: think we just need to wake up and be more 1336 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: cautious to what the ship is doing. The exactly because 1337 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 1: we got more to lose than the next people. You 1338 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, because I had a 1339 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 1: whole I had a big as bottle the serp dog 1340 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: in my cabinet for the longest, like one of them 1341 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: big ass you know them big ass leaders they give you. 1342 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: I went from my ass but one time, and they 1343 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 1: gave me that in a bunch of ship. I head 1344 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 1: up in the cab and I took maybe one thing 1345 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: that that ship that knocked me out so much. I 1346 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: took a teaspoon and was sleep for like twelve hours. 1347 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 1: Dog man, I tell you what happened, right, I'll tell 1348 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: you what happened. Now. This ship had been sitting in 1349 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: my cabinet about four or five years. When the homies 1350 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 1: come by and I'll take the ship out because I'm 1351 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: looking for something else from the pantry, right and you 1352 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: see that. He says, still, you know what this hells? 1353 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 1: You got right? I said, yeah, I know where it deals. 1354 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, he said, he said, let me get 1355 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 1: a dog. He pulled out some money. I said, man, 1356 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: this ship three or four years old. Dog ship framed? 1357 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: No good, no more ship. You know. I let him 1358 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 1: going to take a dog. But ship. You know it's 1359 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 1: like man, he that like that was something he had 1360 01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 1: shake that ship up. See Troy, thinking went out. That 1361 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 1: have been gone many man, I can I can imagine 1362 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,439 Speaker 1: what it's like hanging out with you, Brouh, just a free, 1363 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: spared person. You know, I know you'll be out there 1364 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 1: having a good time. Man, I know you'd be having 1365 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: a good time. Well, I have a good time here, 1366 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 1: and that you know, I don't got married and everything, 1367 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 1: and I got a brutiful, brutiful wife. I'm saying a 1368 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 1: lot of business. You know what I'm saying. I last 1369 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: year I went into a rental car business and bought 1370 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of rental cars and stuff. So I've been 1371 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: in the rental cars out then. Um two months ago, 1372 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 1: but three months ago I went to truck driving school, 1373 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 1: got my CDs and brought my eighteen wheel or something about. 1374 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Come a teen wheels and stuff and coaust of them. 1375 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: You know you've been this man, Man, you're talking about 1376 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: change lane. I'm serious, Troy. We could come down the 1377 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 1: Dog and the nixt when we get this. That's what 1378 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: we do, James. When we get this other situation closed, 1379 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 1: we need to go down the Houston dog Man. We 1380 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 1: need to go down to Houston and do this live. Troy, 1381 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: cool with that? Yeah, that's cool, Hey, James, I ride 1382 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,680 Speaker 1: up too, man. I got two of them. I got 1383 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: a oh, eight areas of soft tail. It's my it's 1384 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: my slab by big big front end on it. Eight 1385 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 1: favorite music baggers on the back, uh, fishtails and everything. 1386 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You never did no club. Now. 1387 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 1: Then I got a road glide to ok We're gonna 1388 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: ride tomorrow. We leave tomorrow evening about four o'clock. We 1389 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 1: right into Atlanta to morrow. Okay, you know we need 1390 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: to do brother, you know we need to do the change. 1391 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 1: We need to get with Troy and start to us. Yeah, 1392 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 1: if him do the Houston first, the stuff we got 1393 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 1: out here. Yeah, you know, I'm just getting back. I 1394 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 1: know you don't want to do no Bae had a podcast. 1395 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: I had a podcast right here. There was a background 1396 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 1: of my podcast, my doors right now. I had a 1397 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 1: podcast I started, and then the COVID hit and I 1398 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 1: didn't want people come to my house. I didn't want 1399 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: to do all the day. I really want to do 1400 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 1: in person, and I had different people lined up, and 1401 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,080 Speaker 1: then I just stopped doing it. You know, with me, 1402 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: I start something. If I ain't feeling in the next 1403 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 1: week whatever, I can that project, do something else. I'm 1404 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: talking about getting on the motor shocles. Man. Oh yeah, 1405 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: but you ain't do no club though, I gotta I 1406 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 1: know everybody down all the clubs, right, I'm not. I'm 1407 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: not in the club. They'd be all asking me. Man, 1408 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 1: you ain't even got a pros. But just come in trouble, 1409 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: come ride with us. That's about the see want around 1410 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: Troit type of you want to kick it with. Yeah, 1411 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, I wanna free spirit 1412 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: ride and I want to ride. That's right, that's the best. 1413 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 1: That's the best time where you go where you want 1414 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 1: to go, and and just take your time getting there. Well, 1415 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 1: big dog, I'm gonna tell you this. When we come down, 1416 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 1: we damn suld go recruits you. By the time we leave, 1417 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 1: you can be talking about what when we gonna open 1418 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,440 Speaker 1: up the place we can get it cracking. They go, 1419 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't know you can see it, but now you 1420 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: haven't been that damn saying what damn caraman? You know 1421 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 1: you can't see it anyway. That's my flab bike right 1422 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 1: there with it's ay in the back on the two 1423 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: and practice say short start. It's a baller shot caller. 1424 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: Its light up at night when you're going down the 1425 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: street and light up. Yes, he got two and PAGs. 1426 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean we ride, I ride, have fun. But that's 1427 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 1: by that. I ain't trying to what kind of music 1428 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: you've got on that thing? I got uh four tens, 1429 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 1: four six by nins and four or five five apes 1430 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 1: they're beating down the many as you running three three ams. Yeah, 1431 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't even man, I got one one one one 1432 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 1: for the four tens wolf was one for the four 1433 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 1: six by nins and one for the five and the 1434 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: quarter uh in the ferry right right, I'm running two. Yeah, 1435 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be bumping. Yeah, I mean my road king 1436 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 1: that motherfucker's it sounds better than everybody that got nineteen 1437 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 1: speakers on the back. You know, I'm thinking about redoing 1438 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 1: mind cause I heard some other people that was jam 1439 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I think are hitting it. But 1440 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 1: then I don't know if my ship tuned up right, 1441 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, saying you got certain places that that's not 1442 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 1: a tune tune the music up right too. So but 1443 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 1: I'm happy with it myself, right, I'm happy with it myself. 1444 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: And when I'm riding down the street my baby on 1445 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 1: the back, were couldn't like to see it, you know 1446 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 1: that my ship up like the seal, because I like, 1447 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm either ride us up you give me. Yeah. So 1448 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 1: we appreciate you, man, because I don't know it's late 1449 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 1: over that dog. We appreciate you coming on here and 1450 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 1: shopping it up with his big dog. Where can people 1451 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 1: reach out to you at man, it's Little Troit even 1452 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 1: active online, like where can they get actually wet? Man, 1453 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 1: I've got jumped on a softening and say something here 1454 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 1: and that littro g that's it and instaground Twitter. I 1455 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,599 Speaker 1: don't never be on Twitter that much else, but I've 1456 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 1: been on Instagram and Facebook. They give me up on 1457 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 1: Little Troy to on faithbook. That's about it. I don't 1458 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: just I don't just post a lot of ship all 1459 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 1: the time. If I do post, I don't win ded 1460 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 1: and it came back then I posted. You know what 1461 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm gonna go to the Lanta trip. 1462 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,719 Speaker 1: I won't post nothing when I'm down in the Lanta. 1463 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 1: When I get back, I make throw some pictures up 1464 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 1: the Lanta trip and they're like, man, you out of town. 1465 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 1: Now I'm back now. You know what. I'm just don't 1466 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,680 Speaker 1: know about no one man all the time. You know, 1467 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 1: I don't just post up every time I go somewhere. 1468 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 1: Everything I do. I don't live my life on the ground. Yeah, 1469 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: you damn, because with these people don't know they got 1470 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 1: some cash dogs they could find up when you post 1471 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 1: the pictures that you're eating over here and there. You 1472 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: just can pull up your pictures and find out where 1473 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,680 Speaker 1: your location is. There the come pull up on you 1474 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: right well you get you took that ride to Lanta. 1475 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 1: You be shaving. Keep them wheels down. My brother music 1476 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: bumping to keep cracking, so man, you'd be shaved out 1477 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 1: there alright day. Man, I appreciate you all having me 1478 01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 1: on this show. Man. You know what I'm saying, cause 1479 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do it. I you know what 1480 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Man, I'm glad you did it because that's 1481 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 1: but that's what maybe won't you even more when the 1482 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: nigga don't want to do some ship to be on 1483 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 1: the thing. I said, Man, come on, tell will be cool. 1484 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 1: And I have to tell to pull my mixing card out, 1485 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 1: I said, I Mr mixes on me. Hey, but see, 1486 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 1: I live a different lifestyle. No, do you feel what 1487 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying? So I don't just be out trying to 1488 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 1: do all the podcasts and all this being you know, 1489 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 1: I gotta be at every show they go on that 1490 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 1: people don't I don't do. I enjoy my life. I'm 1491 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 1: fifty five years old right now. You feel me? Don't 1492 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 1: you think that that that this this right here, this 1493 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,600 Speaker 1: show right here, A lot of people are gonna be 1494 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 1: enlightened by what you said, and everybody's gonna be able 1495 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,759 Speaker 1: to see that you can still be a gangster without 1496 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,160 Speaker 1: the bullshit and still make your money and do your thing. 1497 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: You know what, it's just you that I guarantee you. 1498 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, oh man, that little Troy Man. Okay, 1499 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,880 Speaker 1: they've been They've been asked me to do a movie 1500 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 1: about my life. They know when I gotta people that 1501 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 1: they may, I help you do it. I'll help you 1502 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: write it, I'll help a duce I do whatever. I 1503 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 1: don't stood. But my wife even saying, you know, they 1504 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 1: try to get me to do the TV show you 1505 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:09,679 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And I'm like, no, I won't 1506 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 1: live my life on on on TV show. I don't 1507 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 1: want to do that. But I really I want my 1508 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 1: grand babies to tell my story. Now she's been wrong 1509 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: for that cause she said, you need to tell your 1510 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 1: story in the first person because you know more your 1511 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,640 Speaker 1: story than they're gonna ever know about you. But that 1512 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,639 Speaker 1: that mean they just gotta do a lot of research 1513 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,000 Speaker 1: and find podcasts like this shill. You gotta yeah, you 1514 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 1: gotta leave a blueprint, though. You gotta leave them. You 1515 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 1: gotta leave them. You gotta leave them with that, that 1516 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 1: diary of Little Troy. So when they get when they 1517 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 1: read the diary, everything else is easy because they already 1518 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: got this right here. So just I never thought about that, 1519 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, leave a diary form for them, for them 1520 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 1: to put the story right. You know. My wife said, baby, 1521 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 1: you don't did so much everywhere you go. Look, I'm 1522 01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,720 Speaker 1: telling you right now. You know we have to war 1523 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 1: man right now, everywhere we go, right, I don't want 1524 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 1: the man had on everything on the truck like about that. 1525 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 1: I ain't robbed, y'all. I can't but do nothing to nobody, 1526 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 1: cause mother just's no me. I guess by my eyes 1527 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 1: or whatever, I'll be out of town. Everywhere we go, 1528 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: people be like, that's so that's the how did you hell? 1529 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 1: You know me? Man? I got a math zone, bro. 1530 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 1: The way you where you had, the way you walk. 1531 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,960 Speaker 1: You know, everybody got their own signature walk and they 1532 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 1: know who you are. Ain't nothing wrong with it. God 1533 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,919 Speaker 1: damn it. I let y'all. I let this goddamn cigars 1534 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 1: back place close. Oh man, let me look, you got yourself. 1535 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm like y'all go to May Man. I appreciate this, 1536 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: bro ca hey, Casy, you know, good looking at maybe 1537 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 1: you're good looking at man. You know, like I said, 1538 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 1: for the further one to do it. But he told 1539 01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 1: me who it was a good friend of Hills and 1540 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 1: this and now there ain't gonna be no bullshit that podcast. Man. 1541 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 1: Let me ask you to man, you're glad you did 1542 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 1: a big dog. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad you came on. 1543 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:10,680 Speaker 1: I told you it was gonna be some grown man, 1544 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, I appreciate dog hey, 1545 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: And let's set up something. No dog. We me and 1546 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 1: James go here Houston dog like and usually aving to 1547 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 1: show a this coaching football and they a little too 1548 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 1: with their stuff now, so they're practicing it now at 1549 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 1: this time. But we will come down to the Houston Dog. 1550 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 1: We want you to be the you know, the whole 1551 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 1: catalyst of that. You know what I'm saying. Hep y'all 1552 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 1: e and uh if y'all ever want to do a 1553 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 1: football and I got a little football team too. You 1554 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 1: know they ain't got litle too. I sponsor, oh for sure. 1555 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: With man, let's say so that we set a game 1556 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 1: over eight eight team and your team we got don't 1557 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 1: want super Bowl? Uh? I took four team to the 1558 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,639 Speaker 1: super Bowl to the team water super Bowl? Is that right? Man? 1559 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Man. We bring them California boys down there, 1560 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna bring the noises. Dog. They say Texas got 1561 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,400 Speaker 1: some ballers, don't I know, y'all y'all team, but I 1562 01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: got uh recogen when you we will come down, Troy. 1563 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm actually, man, I appreciate you. Be bro alright all 1564 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 1: the time? All right show? Okay, that concludes another episode 1565 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,639 Speaker 1: against the Chronicles podcast. We had a homeboy, little Troy 1566 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 1: on that other day, man, James Troy a cool brother 1567 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 1: man one the all day he wanted to um. And 1568 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,479 Speaker 1: you know how I feel about doing a bunch of 1569 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,040 Speaker 1: rappers now, Dog. You know what I'm saying. It's like 1570 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 1: it's so many lasted story, dog, and I think he 1571 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 1: should put that story out the dog. She A lot 1572 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,599 Speaker 1: of people fail to realize that each man out there, 1573 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,960 Speaker 1: each every individual has her own life, has a has 1574 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,760 Speaker 1: a story today life, every last one of us, and 1575 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna be different. You know what I'm saying? Someone 1576 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 1: are just like his is you know what I'm saying, 1577 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,680 Speaker 1: like when people say how my story is, you know 1578 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,759 Speaker 1: you you just got that handful that that can teach 1579 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: everybody in one sit down man, And I'm glad he 1580 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 1: did the interview, man, Little Troy y'all. Well, that concludes 1581 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 1: another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to 1582 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 1: download the I Heart Apple Subscribe to The Gainster Chronicles 1583 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 1: podcast for Apple users. Find that Purple Michael the front 1584 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 1: screening your phone, Subscribe to the show, leave for comment 1585 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,320 Speaker 1: and a rating. Executive producers for The Gangster Chronicles of 1586 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 1: Norm Steel James McDonald and Aaron M. C taylor. Our 1587 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,639 Speaker 1: visual media directors Brian Watt, shows audio editors Taylor Hayes 1588 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,320 Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. Here's the production of The Black Effect 1589 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 1: Podcast Network and I Heart Media. Any questions to comments 1590 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 1: hit us up The Gangster Chronicles podcasts at gmail dot com. 1591 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 1: Peace be safe out there