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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success story. You

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Speaker 1: That was what's the gift? Since your passion, your skilled

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Speaker 1: I'm about the interview next. He's an entrepreneur, he's a CEO,

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Speaker 1: He's an industry decision maker. His name is Chris Lee.

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Speaker 1: He's played many roles on TV. Actor, singer, dancer, vampire,

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Speaker 1: drug dealer, musician. He's currently on the cast of the

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Speaker 1: c W series Legacy You Don't Know But I Watched

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Speaker 1: That too, currently airing UH season three. He's a vampire

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Speaker 1: match Day. On the music side, his latest release is

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Speaker 1: the new single Miss available now. But Chris was in

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Speaker 1: the College Wash. From college, he was casting the broad

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Speaker 1: we hit musical Hamilton's where he played two characters. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about that how you swing between them, to

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Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson and all that stuff for their Chicago production.

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Speaker 1: After that, he shifted to television, appearing on The Empire

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Speaker 1: because you can say swap because he got physicality and

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Speaker 1: recurred where I really fell in love with him on

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Speaker 1: the shot. He was the He was the coolest drug

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Speaker 1: dealer since Fringer Bell. That's what I'm just telling you

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Speaker 1: right now. It's Fringer Bell is legendary from the wire. Please,

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Speaker 1: welcome to money making conversation telling the young act. I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to have more money making conversation. Chris Lee. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, Chris doing well? And thank you for having

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Speaker 1: had to start to Chris has to let you know

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Speaker 1: I appreciate I appreciate it. Well, let's let's talk about

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Speaker 1: you man a little bit. You were you based that?

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Speaker 1: Where you get started and how did you get started

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Speaker 1: in the and the just the love of entertainment because

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Speaker 1: we have so many people have these aspirations but don't

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Speaker 1: know how to jump it off. Yeah. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm originally from Georgia, right outside of Atlanta. I was

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Speaker 1: born in Augusta. My mom moved to Atlanta when I

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Speaker 1: think I was about for and uh so that's that's

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Speaker 1: where I grew up in. I mean, you know, grew

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Speaker 1: up in a regular you know, black household, you know,

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Speaker 1: a single parents situation. Um. And you know, my mom,

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Speaker 1: you know, instilled in me the ideals of of Christianity

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Speaker 1: and and and my entire life is definitely rooted in

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Speaker 1: the true relationship with Jesus Christ will first given honor

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Speaker 1: to heaven and so thankful that I'm here to be

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Speaker 1: able to share with you guys and everything. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: so I went to actually went to a boarding school

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Speaker 1: when I was about fourteen years old, and uh just

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Speaker 1: to kind of get out of the situation I was

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Speaker 1: in and to kind of explore more opportunities when it

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Speaker 1: came to, you know, the potential I feel my mom

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Speaker 1: thought I had, and um, my my peers and my

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Speaker 1: my educator start I had. And so the school is

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Speaker 1: called My College School located in the Tennessee. It's a

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Speaker 1: college prep school and they really just offer everything, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean I remember the first time I toured the

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Speaker 1: campus and you know, found that you could not only

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Speaker 1: was just seeing stuff I had never known and being

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Speaker 1: beneficial because you know, the knowledge I would gain, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know I could use it later. One of those

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Speaker 1: things being theater, right, And so make a long story short,

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Speaker 1: I lost a bet and and uh I had to

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Speaker 1: audition for the play. And I loved it. I mean

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Speaker 1: I absolutely, you know, I was so I wasn't really

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Speaker 1: what I mean, because I was informed and just where

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Speaker 1: for my mom for encouraging me seeing the gifts that

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you have to be kind

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Speaker 1: of musical. You have to know how to worship and

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm in high school and my mom she

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Speaker 1: sees me do a play and she's like, well, you're

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Speaker 1: can major musical theater, acting, music, all that, okay, And

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Speaker 1: I was like, what would I do? She said, you

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Speaker 1: can go to Broadway and I was like, they get paid.

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Speaker 1: She's like, Chris, they get paid. I was like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: let's just do that. And that's really how I went down. Bro.

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Speaker 1: It really went down like that. Like I, I auditioned

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Speaker 1: University and that's where I again my my formal education

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Speaker 1: on theater, where I had my first voice lessons, acting lessons,

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Speaker 1: dancing lessons, and UM kind of honed the talent I

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Speaker 1: think it was around Hamilton's came out and I became

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Speaker 1: it um you know, via the Spotify iTunes. You could

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Speaker 1: hear the plot and you can hear everything the characters

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Speaker 1: be six months later. It ended up being six months later.

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Speaker 1: I was UM casting a role and opening in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: When to Chicago started doing Hamilton, I played the roles

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Speaker 1: of Lafayette, my Keeping Lafayette and Thomas Jefferson, which is

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Speaker 1: an iconic today. UM role originally performed by Darby Digs

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Speaker 1: was a good friend of mine now and at the time,

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Speaker 1: I was just blown away for for the opportunity. So

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Speaker 1: I was just a sponge. I was on stage with

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Speaker 1: at that point feeling like, okay, this this is it,

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Speaker 1: be more. I've accomplished one thing. Maybe there's more to come.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there isn't a line, Maybe there isn't like a ceiling,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Maybe I can you know,

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Speaker 1: these black actors have such a wide range and do

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Speaker 1: so I took a shot. I left Hamilton in twenty

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Speaker 1: you know, helping me out over there. Um, I got

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Speaker 1: they let me fly, like they let me take a

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Speaker 1: character that they wrote for me. Oh it was beautiful,

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Speaker 1: beautiful character. Man. Yeah, I appreciate. I think he's great.

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Speaker 1: can't I think it might have been. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: the character's name is Melick, and he's just weird old

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Speaker 1: really looking at you for that, but you're really talented,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see if anything comes up. Next day, I

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Speaker 1: who I think this guy is in conjunction with who

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Speaker 1: just kind of the beauty of it. The beauty of it, Chris,

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Speaker 1: was that you know that like I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're drug dealing, okay, and and and and it so,

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Speaker 1: but you were able to make him likable. You were

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Speaker 1: able to make him like, man, I like that dude.

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Speaker 1: You was a first of all, you want to make

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Speaker 1: everybody's thing. You were a new stupid guy. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is a busy decision. You know, you're just making business

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Speaker 1: because and I love that spin on it, because you're

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Speaker 1: going like, okay, look at especially when you open that

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Speaker 1: but what I want to talk about that character because

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Speaker 1: the brilliance, because you're brilliant. Man. I'm just gonna let

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Speaker 1: a lot a lot I know still the day, work

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Speaker 1: around a lot of talented people, and that little acting step,

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Speaker 1: the ability to be able to connect the dots, you're

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Speaker 1: able to pull it off. And so my whole thing

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Speaker 1: is that that's stepping beyond what they put on paper.

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Speaker 1: What natural instinct is leading you in that direction because

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Speaker 1: you're brilliant, you know man. It was a person like

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Speaker 1: step into another level and I was just gonna throw

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Speaker 1: it out there. We're talking on that Denzel Washington level.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and and and and that's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. But he can't sing, though, So you

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Speaker 1: is that there's nothing you could tell me I couldn't

428
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Speaker 1: do if I say I want to do it, and

429
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Speaker 1: I believe that, And that's that. I think that's a

430
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Speaker 1: choice people really have to make in their lives. Is

431
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Speaker 1: you know, how much am I gonna let the practicality

432
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Speaker 1: of my situation, of my circumstance define what I'm really

433
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Speaker 1: gonna do? How much of it? Can it just be

434
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Speaker 1: me saying I'm gonna do it and really die and trying,

435
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I'm really willing to

436
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Speaker 1: go that, I'm really willing to die broken, hungry, chasing

437
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Speaker 1: the thing that I know I was purposed to do. Wow. Uh,

438
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Speaker 1: when you said the word imagination, Okay, and I want

439
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Speaker 1: to bring imagination when we're talking about the third season

440
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Speaker 1: of Legacies, because you better have an imagination. Were you

441
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Speaker 1: dealing with vampires? Were wolves? Uh, demons? Okay, now that's

442
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: the stretch of your imagination. You have an opportunity to

443
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Speaker 1: say you can in l A you're audition for. It

444
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Speaker 1: is the third season. You play the character Kleb and

445
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Speaker 1: the other brother the show. His name is MG. You

446
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Speaker 1: know that you said now your family in the sense

447
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Speaker 1: you know he's a bad pire. So talk about that

448
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Speaker 1: whole because you know I want you on the show.

449
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: It's like you know, it's because because I've been around

450
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Speaker 1: acting so much. You know, you can want to see

451
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Speaker 1: a moment you're here where you have to imagine this

452
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Speaker 1: is I gotta act like this real? But I know

453
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Speaker 1: where they're real. Oh yeah, I mean, especially when you

454
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Speaker 1: get into those scenes where you're just acting at a

455
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Speaker 1: green screen, right master supposed to It ain't nothing that right,

456
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But but that I mean

457
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Speaker 1: the big reason, like, if not the number one reason

458
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Speaker 1: I accepted the role when it was awful, was because

459
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Speaker 1: it was something completely left field, different than anything I

460
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Speaker 1: ever thought of, you know, and it takes I think personally,

461
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Speaker 1: it takes a very committed actor to do a good

462
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Speaker 1: a job in a supernatural world, you know, because you're

463
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Speaker 1: dealing with things that absolutely aren't you know that just

464
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Speaker 1: that cannot be proven that not we don't, like we're

465
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Speaker 1: not talking about just you know, all my girlfriend breaking

466
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Speaker 1: up with me and I slept with her best friend.

467
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Speaker 1: And so now that's the story. And for me, you

468
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, if I can get her back,

469
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: that's something that can happen in real life. But a

470
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Speaker 1: dragon appearing out of the air breathing fire and me,

471
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Speaker 1: you know, taking my things and biting some girl's neck

472
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Speaker 1: out like that, that doesn't happen. So imagination is key,

473
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Speaker 1: and and and and and to be able to live

474
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Speaker 1: in a world where you truly have to you have

475
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Speaker 1: to believe in the moment as the actor that the

476
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Speaker 1: character really believes this thing and it's really living in

477
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Speaker 1: this world. That's the whole gig, Like, that's the whole

478
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Speaker 1: in order for the show to work, everyone has to

479
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Speaker 1: be that committed to that thing. And it's the same

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Speaker 1: thing with superheroes. It's any any you know, Superman movie,

481
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Speaker 1: Justice League, Marvel movie, those actors. The reason they're so

482
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Speaker 1: successful is because we look at that world and we

483
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Speaker 1: believe it. We believe Yep, I'm man is going because

484
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Speaker 1: he's what I'm saying. The whole is gonna get mad

485
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Speaker 1: and turn green because that's what happens in this world.

486
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Speaker 1: We're not thinking about. All this is make believe. That

487
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Speaker 1: there's no fun in that. There's like we're not watching

488
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Speaker 1: it to pick it apart and say, oh, this is

489
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Speaker 1: a make believe world. Now we're in it because it

490
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Speaker 1: is convinced us in our imagination that it's a world

491
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Speaker 1: that could exist, that does exist. And so that's the

492
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Speaker 1: fun part of it. I think imagination is key, and

493
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Speaker 1: it's the it's so like that's the that's the fun part.

494
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Speaker 1: I can. I mean, I could play some kids from

495
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Speaker 1: Atlanta that's black with dreads that you know, it's musical.

496
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Speaker 1: I could. I could do what I am, But to

497
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Speaker 1: to to to portray something that I'm just not to that,

498
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the that's the acting part, you know

499
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Speaker 1: what I mean. But the beauty of it is that

500
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Speaker 1: when I'm watching that these different levels you know, whether

501
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Speaker 1: it's a Suad empire, the shot, you know, the Hamilton

502
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Speaker 1: experience and now there's legacies. I'm I'm looking at you

503
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Speaker 1: and going, Okay, then he's unstoppable. You know. My purpose

504
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: of bringing you on the show with just let you

505
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Speaker 1: know you're unstoppable. Just and and I didn't know that

506
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Speaker 1: you already had that that queen you call your mom,

507
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, then she'd let you know you was gonna stoppable.

508
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: So I'm just added fuel. You know what I'm saying.

509
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Speaker 1: If you're on five, I'll just putting more wood on

510
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Speaker 1: the five, put more das on that five, because you're special. Man.

511
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Speaker 1: And but before we leave, I just want to talk

512
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Speaker 1: about you know, one at one scene, you know, you're

513
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Speaker 1: you're rapping. I said, that's brother, this brother, you know,

514
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Speaker 1: and I can tell you're adding man. Yeah, I'm telling

515
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Speaker 1: I'll be looking at this. I lovemptis. I love looking

516
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Speaker 1: the talented people. Man. I just sit back, my wife,

517
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Speaker 1: go boy you I said, I said, I'm gonna interview

518
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Speaker 1: this younger man. I said, look at him, I said,

519
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Speaker 1: And and then and so you have some music is support?

520
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Speaker 1: You got a single I called miss you got a

521
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: new album one thousand, you know, so talk about the

522
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Speaker 1: single because I want to make sure you know we're

523
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Speaker 1: gonna play music on our show. But I want to

524
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Speaker 1: talk about why music is a passion, why it's important

525
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Speaker 1: to release this single and your upcoming CD. Absolutely so yeah.

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Speaker 1: First of all, mses out streaming on all platforms. You

527
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: can get on Spotify, Apple Music, wherever you listen to

528
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: music there. Um missed by Chris Lee. That song was fun, man,

529
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Speaker 1: it was it was. It was one of those beautiful

530
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Speaker 1: moments that I wrote a song, um that I did

531
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Speaker 1: not plan on writing or necessarily being good. And I

532
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Speaker 1: put no effort into it. I was just having fun

533
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: and I would show every friend I showed it was like, oh, yeah,

534
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: this is the one you need to drop like now.

535
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Speaker 1: And so uh, my partner, I got it together and

536
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Speaker 1: we released it and um yeah man, I mean the

537
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: whole music is it is truly a part of like

538
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Speaker 1: the fabric of my being. Like it, I could not

539
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Speaker 1: escape it if I wanted to. Like I said, my

540
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Speaker 1: whole family's musical. My mom is the musician of the family.

541
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Speaker 1: She's the singers, she has the voice. Um she is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she has the annointing on her that is

543
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Speaker 1: just undeniable. And you know, and my grandmother, grandfather, my

544
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Speaker 1: my father, his his mother, my entire family. It can

545
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Speaker 1: sing their musical. So again, I came from a household

546
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Speaker 1: that it wasn't really like. I just didn't think about

547
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Speaker 1: it being something that you show off to make money,

548
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Speaker 1: like something that you use to to really like, you know,

549
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: in a in a career, because it was just it

550
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: was like it was like drinking water. It was just

551
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: the way it was. I as a kid, thought everybody

552
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Speaker 1: could sing because my family could sing. I thought the

553
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: whole world knows how to sing. It took it off

554
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: for me to realize, oh, some people really don't have

555
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: the same you know, ability of the same talent. But yeah, man,

556
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: it's just a part of who I am. And so

557
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: I've always sang. And then you know, I always wrote

558
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: songs and I never really thought that I could really

559
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Speaker 1: do it, as I didn't know if I wanted to

560
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Speaker 1: be a music artist. Per se um and I had

561
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Speaker 1: been in a group in college you know, to my friends,

562
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: uh and I would we would perform shows and we

563
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: had a fun run. And then when I got Hamilton's,

564
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: like I said, it was a spark when I got there,

565
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Speaker 1: like you know, after I had performed the first night,

566
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Speaker 1: I realized, oh man, I really could do I could

567
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Speaker 1: do anything I want to do, like anything, So while

568
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: I try to like make music, and so I released

569
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Speaker 1: the EP entitled in My Feelings that's available everywhere too,

570
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: and it was my first thing and I did it

571
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Speaker 1: by myself with with my friend. We wrote and produce

572
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: everything by ourselves and just drop just to see the effects.

573
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: And I gained fans from Hamilton and fans from the

574
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Speaker 1: shot saw with two of the different cities and do

575
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: little shows you know, where about two other people, three

576
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: people will come out and it will come out and

577
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: the music. So I was like, oh, maybe I need

578
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: to like really kicking in gear and do this for real.

579
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: At the same time, I booking legacies and my TV

580
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: career is kind of taking off and taking a lot

581
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: of my time. So it's been like a balance of

582
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: like doing trying to like, you know, do my due

583
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: diligence with my music and do my thu diligence uh

584
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: in my acting career. So it's it's a it's a

585
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: it's a fun ping pong that goes back and forth. Um.

586
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: But music is definitely a huge passion of mine and

587
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: I'm big on writing, you know, I'm doing the writing session,

588
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: a copy writing sessions, this past week FIRS some core

589
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: artists that we're gonna drop some cool music. Um, I've

590
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: been in the studio with you know, legends in it

591
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: and it's been so fun to absorb. So I consider

592
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: myself in the beginning stages of putting my music out there.

593
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: So ms is is a single that is starting a

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Speaker 1: new era of the sound that will in you a

595
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: game from me going forward. UM, So please listen to it,

596
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: y'all definitely enjoy, send me comments, feedback in your Instagram,

597
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: d M s, all that kind of stuff. UM, let

598
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: me know how y'all avid into the music, and I'm

599
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: gonna continue to release more. Uh, just to share with

600
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Speaker 1: you what what what it is that I love to do. Well.

601
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: I want to thank you. You know, we we did

602
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: a journey. In this interview. We talked about the Hamilton experience,

603
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: playing two roles, talked about being a Georgia boy, you know,

604
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: talking about the mom who believes you and your board

605
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: in school. Uh, talking about going from Empire Swad you know,

606
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: the shy where I fell in love with your your abilities, brother,

607
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: your abilities and now you're in the Legacies, which is

608
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Speaker 1: on the c W in the third season, playing the

609
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: character Caleb Harkins, Like I said you had you said

610
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Speaker 1: playing b what the option? I go back to what

611
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Speaker 1: I say, your plan anchors, Lye is that single Dans musician.

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Speaker 1: I would tell how you more stack it is. In

613
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: the beginning, I said I have celebrity. You got that.

614
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Speaker 1: I said I was CEO. Keep your game music Okay, okay,

615
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: I'll say you have entrepreneur, keep of game music okay,

616
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Speaker 1: industry decision maker, you'll beach boy, You'll be don't encouragement.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, and I love what you're doing. I

618
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: love the encouragement you're given the black people to all people, man,

619
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Speaker 1: and and and you know it's it's confident as I am,

620
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of performers are. It always

621
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: feels good to to to be reaffirmed over and over again.

622
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: We have to build each other up, man, especially during

623
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Speaker 1: this time during pandemics, we're coming off of a lot

624
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Speaker 1: of huge racial tension and people dying. It is important

625
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: for us to be able to boost each other and

626
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: continue to share our gifts. So I appreciate you in

627
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Speaker 1: your time. Thank you for having me on the show.

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Speaker 1: It's my honor, all right, man, Thank you for coming

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