1 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans, 2 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: celebrating seventy six years of providing Tennesseeans with high quality 3 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: health coverage at an affordable rate. Visit FBHP dot com 4 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: to learn about their history in Tennessee. With Amy Wells, 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Keith. Winding to the end of the preseason. 6 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: Does it feel to you as if this preseason has 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: gone in like hyperspeed? 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Hyperspeed? 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: It feels like we just started training camp and we 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: were all just, yeah, Football's back. And I still very 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: much feel like, yeah, football's back. I'm not training camp tired, 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 2: and I can't believe that now we're just running right 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: into the regular season. 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: So training camp is over. The Titans will play preseason 15 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: game number three Friday night at Nissan Stadium, WOHO seven 16 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: point fifteen Central time, kickoff, six o'clock airtime on Titans 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: Radio any of the great Titans radio stations in your area. 18 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: You're back on Titan's Countdown this week. 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in the booth. I'm so excited. That's 20 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: really why I'm so fired up. I think I'm excited 21 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: to be at the stadium for a game, not watching 22 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: on TV, listening to Titans Radio, actually participating in Titans Radio. 23 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: I'm excited to be back. 24 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: Do you and RHTT and Coach Mack have a good 25 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: pregame show planned? 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: I think we have a pretty solid pregame show packed 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: or plan pregame show plan. 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: Yes, it's packed full of stuff good. 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot of different lot of 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: different stories that are being told. We have a ton 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: to talk about with Coach Mack. Of course, it's going 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: to be a pretty pretty legit show and it's a 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: little bit longer, so you get a little more bang 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: for your buck, which we also like. 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: That's good. Date wise, of course, Friday night is the 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: final preseason game. Yes, the weekend is kind of calm. Monday, 37 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: the team gets back to work to a certain extent, 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: and then the cuts will be taking place on Monday 39 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: and Tuesday, maybe even some over the weekend because you 40 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: have to be down to fifty three players on Tuesday 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: at three o'clock yes, Central time. Yes, all right, So 42 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: here a couple important notes to understand. If you are 43 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: going to put a player on injured reserve with the 44 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: ability to return, that player must be on your initial 45 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: fifty three at three o'clock on Tuesday or else. If 46 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: they're put on IR now, they're out for the year. Okay, 47 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: So they have to be on that initial fifty three 48 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: and then once that clears, then you're able to move 49 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: them to the eligible to return list. They could return 50 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: as soon as four games. 51 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: That's a very good clarification to make, Mike. 52 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: Key, thank you. The next day, you're able to start 53 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: signing players to the practice squad. Practice squad sixteen players. 54 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: Six of those may be vested veterans. One note that 55 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: we think that you need to know is there's been 56 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about tight end Thomas Odaquoia, and 57 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: Thomas has improved dramatically from a year ago. His blocking 58 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: has been excellent. If Thomas Otaquoia ends up on the 59 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: practice squad, he does not count against the sixteen. He 60 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: is an extra based on the fact that he is 61 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: an international. 62 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: Player, okay, and each team is allowed one. 63 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: I think that's right, But I don't know that. I 64 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: don't know that part. I don't know that every team 65 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: has an international player. 66 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: But I think you are allocated a spot for one, yes, 67 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: so you can do that. 68 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: So you would think that you know that may be 69 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: something that they choose to utilize, and or he could 70 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: make the fifty three right. Who knows. It's exciting, It 71 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: is exciting. The Titans first game is Sunday, September tenth 72 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: at New Orleans at noon Central time. The Titans will 73 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: then play home for the Chargers September seventeen at Cleveland 74 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: September twenty four, Cincinnati October one, at Indianapolis October eighth, 75 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: maybe Jonathan Taylor's not there anymore, fingers crossed, maybe, and 76 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: then Baltimore in London eight thirty am Central Time on Sunday, 77 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: October fifteenth. NFL meetings take place the following Tuesday and Wednesday, 78 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: October seventeen and eighteen in New York City. The Titans 79 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: obviously have a bye the weekend after London, the weekend 80 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: of October twenty two. October the twenty ninth, the Titans 81 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: play the Falcons at Nissan Stadium. That's one of the 82 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: games where the Titans will wear the Oilers uniforms. 83 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: Yes. 84 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: And then Halloween three o'clock Central time, that is the 85 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: trade deadline. That is also the day before the Titans 86 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: will leave for Pittsburgh to play Thursday night football against 87 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers on Thursday, November second. So those are just 88 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: a few dates to just keep in mind. 89 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: That's where we're headed. 90 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: That is where we are headed at this point. Man, 91 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: that's going to be there is There is much to come. 92 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: There is but one way to prepare. Duncan. 93 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: I see, I was getting to try and guess and 94 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: I didn't want to be wrong. 95 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: It's always game on with Duncan. So grab a coffee 96 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: and kick off the action. Whether that's drinking a cup 97 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: of coffee on your way to the game, or figuring 98 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: out the roster or watching the game on TV, Duncan 99 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: is always there to help you get your game on. 100 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: Just like the pros, we need to be at our 101 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: best come game time. That's why Duncan is the most 102 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 1: important part of your game day ritual because it's always 103 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: the best call for football America runs on Duncan. Okay, 104 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: so you get to keep fifty three? 105 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: You sure do? Yes? I have played the game, oh, Mike, I. 106 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Have played the game. About how many roster spots I'm 107 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: sure of going into Friday night's preseason game. 108 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: How many roster spots are? 109 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: How many players that I'm sure that. 110 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: Will be on the roster Okay, what's that number? 111 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: Thirty eight? 112 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: Thirty eight? 113 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: Yes, Now, I know several more guys will be on 114 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: the roster, But if you ask me, am I one 115 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: hundred percent sure, no about other people other than those thirties. 116 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: The thirty eight. So you've got thirty eight positive Well, 117 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: you've got a couple more probably, I. 118 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Mean I've got probably a dozen probably. 119 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: Okay. 120 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm like Coach Mack that he said on the Monday 121 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: edition of the OTP. I think they probably have three 122 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: or four roster spots legitimately available. Maybe, Okay. 123 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: Is that encouraging to you that a lot of it 124 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: seems as though a lot of these people are already 125 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: in the building. 126 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: It's encouraging. But it's also encouraging to me about the 127 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: overall hunger of this thing right now, because at this 128 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: time of year ago, I probably would have had five 129 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: more guys that I was sure about positively sure. Okay, 130 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing, And I tried to take it from 131 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: this standpoint, am I you know DeAndre Hopkins is going 132 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: to be on the roster? 133 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: Correct that? I mean, that's not a that's not up 134 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: for debate. No, that is a statement. 135 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: If Ryan Tannehill is going to be on the roster. 136 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is going to be on the roster, Chicka 137 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: Kako is going to be on the roster. I mean, 138 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: these are not outlandish statements of not meant to be. 139 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a revelation. 140 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: So you don't have a bunch of hot takes on that. 141 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: I have no hot takes. 142 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: I actually eliminated oldest roster. 143 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: This is I actually eliminated some guys that I might 144 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: have hot takes from. As a matter of fact, I mean, 145 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the new kicker, Michael Badgeley will 146 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: be on the roster, but I know a kicker will 147 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: be on the roster, so I included that in the number. 148 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so you went with the position, not the I've. 149 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: Got eighteen offense, seventeen defense, and three specialists. 150 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: Okay. 151 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: So well, I mean that that's you know, that's not 152 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: a lot, and that's thinking. I believe there are three 153 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks on this roster. 154 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 3: I agree with that. I yes, we've. 155 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: Talked about that consistently. I just you know, they just 156 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: drafted Will Levis in the second round. Jim White said 157 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: it earlier this spring, and it sort of caused a 158 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: hubbub when he said he knows will Levis is going 159 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: to be on the roster. It's like they just traded 160 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: up to take him with the second pick in the 161 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: second round. 162 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: He's going to be on the roster, right, you know, 163 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think that is that is breaking news. 164 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: I think that's what you would do, right, Well, your 165 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: second run. 166 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: Malik Willis has done a nice job. I feel like 167 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: he's going to be on the roster. That to me, 168 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: you know, but maybe I'm wrong, you know, maybe I'm 169 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: wrong about some of these. 170 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the quarterback thing seems to be a 171 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: pretty sure that feels that way to me. Yeah. That 172 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans, Well here's one. 173 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: Where I was stuck. Which of the backup offensive linemen 174 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: did they? Yeah? Because I mean here here's Nicholas Pettit Frere. 175 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: He he's not going to be on the opening. 176 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: Day roster, correct. 177 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: He goes to the suspended list, so he doesn't count. 178 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: Maybe Dylan Rayden's could come off of PUP and maybe 179 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: he's one of the nine offensive linement, But as we 180 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: record this edition of the OTP, he's still on the PUP, 181 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: So we don't know. You know, those are the sorts 182 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: of things. I have five wide receivers, three tight ends, 183 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: the starting five offensive linemen, three quarterbacks and two tailbacks. 184 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: Can I ask a procedural question, how does pup calculate 185 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: into your final your roster calculations? 186 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: Okay, you would stay on physically unable to perform, you 187 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: would just stay on that list. 188 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: Does that count against the fifty. 189 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: Thh there's not count against the fifty three, and. 190 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: You can come off of it. But then you have 191 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: to create a spot for correct Okay, correct? 192 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: Okay? 193 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: So I mean they're obviously going to keep more than 194 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: five offensive linemen. 195 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: Yes, but who are the rest of the guys? 196 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: Do they keep Xavier Newman and Corey Levin and Justin 197 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Murray and Adam Rupsich or Jordan Ruse or Jalen Duncan 198 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: or I mean, part of this has to do with 199 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: what your makeup is going to be, and part of 200 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: that has to do with health. Yeah, and yeah, because 201 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: what if you have a center who gets dinged up 202 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: and you think he could be back in a week 203 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: or two, but then you need to keep two centers 204 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: available in case he can't play in those first couple 205 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: of games. You know, those are the things that kind 206 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: of factor in right now. It's why looking at the 207 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: wide receivers is such a big deal because d Burke's 208 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: and Phillips get back for week one, and. 209 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: If it's not week one, if it's week two, that's 210 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: very different than week oh huge, and that completely changes 211 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: the way the scales balanced. 212 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: Well. And here's another way. If you're on the roster 213 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: in week one and you are a vested veteran, then 214 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: as a vested veteran, you were entitled to your entire 215 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: salary for that particular year. 216 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: So there's a bit of a money game. 217 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: Oh, there's totally a money game. And let's say let's 218 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: say that you're a talented young player who was drafted 219 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: later was an undrafted and the team wants to put 220 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: you on practice squad, but they know they will have 221 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: to expose you to waivers. 222 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: And that's a dangerous game in and of itself. 223 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Legarrett Blunt Jack Doyle stories. So here's the thing. 224 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Do you keep a player like that on the active 225 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: roster in week one with the idea that their salary 226 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: is not guaranteed for the year, and that in week 227 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: two or week three you can put them on waivers. 228 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: Teams will already have full practice squads and that you 229 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: can then re sign him to your practice squad because 230 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: everybody is not looking for a practice squad at that time, 231 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: as they will be from August twenty ninth into August 232 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: thirtieth next week. Right, So do you hold on to 233 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: that guy in shaping this roster and say, we don't 234 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: want to lose him. 235 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you also have to play to win the game. 236 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: But you got to play to win a game. But 237 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: you're thinking, this guy may not help us at New Orleans, 238 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: but we do not want to expose him to waivers 239 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: at this point because we don't think we can get 240 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: him back through and we think he has upside. We 241 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: want to get him through to the practice squad at 242 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: some point, but we think if we do it now, 243 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: we have a problem. You have to be really healthy 244 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: in order to do that. 245 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And and I think that's where I think, that's 246 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: where I start to panic, is what it's the health factor. 247 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: And I think that the Titans specifically have seen this 248 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: movie now twice where you try to build obviously the 249 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: best roster that you can possibly build, but you've got 250 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: to think about depth and you've got to think about 251 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: the financial aspects of what happens when you need to 252 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: start bringing in more people and you have to start 253 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: thinking about it. You're playing the short game and you're 254 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: also playing an incredibly long game at the same exact time. 255 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: Well, but you can't take a guy. I mean, the 256 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Legarrett Blunt situation is a great example. Running back comes 257 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: in here, clearly is NFL worthy. They want to keep 258 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: him desperately. He has earned us out on the roster, 259 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: but they don't have enough healthy linebackers to play in 260 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, because you've got to cover kicks. You've 261 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: got So they get Patrick Bailey and Tim Shaw and 262 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: end up waiving Legarrett Blunt thinking we can get him 263 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: back for practice squad or thinking, dear Lord, please let 264 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: him get through so he can get back to us. 265 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: He doesn't. Tampa claims him right, and he goes on 266 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: and he has a very nice career. Again, if you're 267 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: not desperate, then you could do that if the team 268 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: had been okay health wise at all spots. I mean, 269 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: if you have one injury, it's one thing, But if 270 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: you have a couple of injuries at a spot, do 271 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: you do that? 272 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: Mike? 273 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: I wish people could see because I think you can 274 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: actually see smoke coming out of my ear. 275 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: Well, this is we try not to do too many 276 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: of these, which is sort of that inside baseball version 277 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: of the ot. But I think we're at the point 278 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: now where if you're listening to the Official Titans podcast, 279 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: understanding all of the dynamics because we've all had all 280 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: of these players. That mean the Titans have they had 281 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: a good training camp, they had two very solid preseason games. 282 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: There have been lots of young guys that you have 283 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: done a good job, right, And you're thinking, we're gonna 284 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: keep this guide, We're gonna keep this guy, and we're 285 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna keep this guy. And if you keep three quarterbacks, 286 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: which everybody seems to think they'll do, then you're losing 287 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: a roster spot somewhere. 288 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 289 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Either you go twenty six offensive players, twenty four defensive players, 290 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: and three specialists, or you go twenty five to twenty 291 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: five and three hmmm. And remember this, the third quarterback 292 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: doesn't come out of your forty eight on game day, no, 293 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: which is good, but the other two guys have to 294 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: be unavailable for that player to go in the game, 295 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: and the third quarterback has to be on your active roster. 296 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: You cannot call him up from the practice squad right 297 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: before the game. Oh so you have to have three 298 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: active quarterbacks. Now you can call a quarterback up from 299 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: the practice squad to be the second quarterback. 300 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: You could do that, but to be the emergency quarterback. 301 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: The only way you can do that is if that 302 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: player is on your active roster, which it makes sense 303 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: to do if like the Titans, you have three suitable candidates. 304 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: That is a caveat that I didn't Well, there are 305 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: a lot of caveats. 306 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you know somebody has to be on the 307 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: initial fifty three to be put on the ir able 308 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: to be returned. How you get through to the practice 309 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: squad the salaries being guaranteed, because the last thing you 310 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: want is to have some get a salary that's guaranteed 311 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: and you realize you don't need them in week three, 312 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: or you bring in a guy, and you bring in 313 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: a guy in week two or week three, and then 314 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: he's going to play for you for five or six weeks, 315 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: and so then you're just paying him week to week. 316 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Because it all adds up. And part of the issue 317 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: that the Titans had a year ago is they had 318 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: extra money set aside for the season, which John Robinson 319 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: always did. 320 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: Right. 321 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: That money was gone. That money was gone by the 322 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: time we got to November because they'd had so many 323 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: injuries and had to sign so many players. 324 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: Right, And so, I mean, I guess that's the long 325 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: game that you have to think about, is Okay, So 326 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 2: what happens if worst case scenario, we have another situation 327 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: where you're needing to add people every week, Right, But 328 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: at the same time, you want the best players on 329 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: your team. 330 00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: You do. 331 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 3: You want to make sure that you have plenty of depth. 332 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: You do you want like, I mean, how many times 333 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: have I walked into your office and be like, this 334 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: guy makes the team and it's like, okay, then who doesn't? 335 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: Right? 336 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: And that's the that's the constant bouncing out. That's what 337 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: makes this time of year so fun but also just 338 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: so I mean crazy, because there's so many different elements 339 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: that can go into whether or not a guy makes 340 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: a team that almost have nothing to do with on 341 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: field performance. If you have a bunch of guys who 342 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: are all performing pretty well, you can't keep them all. 343 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 2: You just cannot keep every single player. And that's what 344 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: makes this so frustrating. 345 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: Well, I think part of the gamble going forward has 346 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: to be you talking about short game and long game. 347 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Part of the gamble has to be is what is 348 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: the roster that is going to give you the best 349 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: chance to beat New Orleans, because that's the first thing 350 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: you do, right. But from there, it's like, I have 351 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: them right now with eight defensive backs on the roster. 352 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: That's a lot. 353 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 3: It is a lot. 354 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: Considering that you've got all these young guys who've played 355 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: so well, and you're saying, well, I mean, if that's 356 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: the case, you're only keeping two, maybe three of them. Yeah, 357 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: And if you only keep three of them, or if 358 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: you do keep three of them, that means you can't 359 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: keep as many inside linebackers or as many outside linebackers, 360 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: or as many defensive linemen. I mean, you've got to 361 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: pick a spot. It's the beauty of rosters. It's the 362 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: beauty of salary cap It's because nobody, nobody in the 363 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: NFL will have proper depth at every position because you can't. 364 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: You can't, you physically cannot do it. 365 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: But do you gamble and say it would be harder 366 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: for us to find defensive backs later and keep three 367 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: of these young guys. 368 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: Than it is to find find one later. 369 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well, I mean then you have to play 370 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: the game. Do we have a better shot at finding 371 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 2: a linebacker if we need it? 372 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: Probably so. 373 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Do we have a better shot at finding an edge 374 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: thresher or I don't know, the defensive lineman. 375 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't know about an edge thresher. I mean a 376 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Yes, they've done that. 377 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's but it's that game. 378 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: And the other thing too, is some of these veterans 379 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: in all thirty two camps will leave and will know 380 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: that they're gone, and all they know they're doing is 381 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: going home for a week, right, because they it's like, hey, 382 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: if something doesn't happen, we're gonna call you on September 383 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: the eleventh and get you to come back, because then 384 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: we'll we'll we'll have you join the team. And they 385 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: and they know how the game works. The agents know 386 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: how the game works well. 387 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: And that's a whole other aspect of this is while 388 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans are sitting making these complicated decisions about 389 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: players who are very capable of playing in the National 390 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: Football League or who have already proven that they are 391 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: able to play at this level, and still are going 392 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: to not be a part of this team for whatever reason. 393 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: All thirty one other teams are doing the same exact thing. 394 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, beyond all of these decisions 395 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: that you're making, you know that there's about to be 396 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 2: just a monsoon of available talent and humans that's about 397 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: to well, you're about to have access to it. 398 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: And even if you love a bunch of these guys. 399 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: If you love someone more, what if. 400 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what if you love someone more? 401 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: And then there's that set. 402 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: Them free, free free. So now I'm. 403 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 2: Sorry, I figured I don't know it, but I'm sure. 404 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 3: Oh I like sting. 405 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: Yes. And here's what's interesting too about the veterans who 406 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: won't be on a roster in week one. 407 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 408 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: So they're saying, oh, yeah, terrible, I don't have a job, 409 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get a call. Well, if a team 410 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: has a real problem, let's say they have two safeties 411 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: go down, and you're a safety, Well, they don't have 412 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: to guarantee your salary for you know, the rest of 413 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: the season if you're not on the roster in week one. 414 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: But if they desperately need a safety, your agent can 415 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: probably get them to guarantee it. And oh, by the way, 416 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: you might get a little extra money because maybe they 417 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: need you so badly they don't want you to go 418 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: somewhere else, right, I mean so, so those guys, by 419 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: sitting out a week can end up with leverage, seeing 420 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: they're three teams who desperately need a safety. Now, who's 421 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: going to give me the best deal? 422 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: Yep, you get to pick where you go. Holy small folks, Mike. 423 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: This is what makes this game so fun, I think 424 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean, I mean really, it's there's so 425 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: many moving parts of so many things to take into consideration. 426 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: There are so many different elements that go into the 427 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: construction of an NFL roster, and it's crazy. 428 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: It is crazy. Huh, you know it's not crazy. What 429 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: Seat Geek? I love this Seat Geek now the official 430 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. I've got this app. 431 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: I used the app this week, you did, I did. 432 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: It's very easy. The deal is finalized. 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Just 442 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: do something fun? 443 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: No, h one is able to use my tickets for 444 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: Friday Night? And excited? 445 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: Oh yes, and so sending friends to the game. 446 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: Sending friends to the game. Michael Badgeley is back here. Yes, 447 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: and the Michael Badgeley story is one of the more 448 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: interesting ones. He was on the team for the season 449 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: opener against Arizona in twenty twenty one. Yes, do you 450 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: remember how this went down? 451 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: I remember it being a story. I don't remember the 452 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: details of the story. 453 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: All right. So we've been through the season of Kickers 454 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Yes, we went through a season with Stephen Gaskowski. Yes, 455 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: and Sam Sloman. 456 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 3: Oh, good job Sloman. 457 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: Good job Sloman, Great job Sloman. 458 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: Great job Sloman. That was it. 459 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: And so that was twenty twenty. Yeah, And so the 460 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: Titans decide that they are going to get settled at 461 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: Kicker and they settle on Sam Ficken. Yeah, Sam Ficken 462 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: is going to be the kicker. Friday, in practice before 463 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: the Arizona game, Sam Ficken pulls a groin muscle, yes, 464 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: which as a kicker, it's not good. Nope, he's out. 465 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: And Jim White and I were standing there and we're 466 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: watching practice and he hit a ball and it was 467 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: as if he kicked the ground. It didn't look right. 468 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: It's like, that's weird. And then he he may have 469 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: kicked one more, but he was like not right, and 470 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: sure enough he has a groin injury. So they pick 471 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: up the phone and they call Michael Badgley. He gets 472 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: in here the next day, kicks against Arizona, misses a 473 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: field goal, misses an extra point, and they ended up 474 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: cutting him and signing Randy Bullock to the practice squad. 475 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: Then Randy Bullock was elevated for the game at Seattle, 476 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: and he wins the game at Seattle with a field goal, yes, 477 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: in overtime. 478 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: Yep, I remember that. 479 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: So Michael Badgely leaves and we see him again later 480 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: that year in Indianapolis. He kicked well for the Colts. 481 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: They decided not to re sign him. The Bears bring 482 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: him in for one game and he does okay, and 483 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: then he's gone, and then he ends up in Detroit 484 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: and he kicks for them for twelve games and he 485 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: does okay pretty well, and Detroit decides not to bring 486 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: him back to camp on July the twentieth of this year, 487 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: so he goes to Washington and he's sort of competing 488 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: with Joey Slye, but he only appeared in one game. 489 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: It sounds like they wanted sly to be the guy, 490 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: and so Slide wins the job and Michael Badgeley is 491 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: waived on August the twentieth, so he's waived on Sunday. 492 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: Titans sign him on Tuesday. We're watching practice before they 493 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: hold that blue and White scrimmage, right and there is 494 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: a new number six who does not look like Caleb Shudack. 495 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 3: They have different body tip well. 496 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: He's considerably bigger. Caleb Shudak is five six or five 497 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: seven and all day, yeah, Badgely is close to six 498 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: feet tall. So we're like, okay, it's not the same guy. 499 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: They also cut Tray Wolf yep, so Badgely has a 500 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: chance to win the job right now, and you know 501 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: he'll get some time. The nice thing for Badgely is 502 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: he will get the next few days to see if 503 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: he can prove it. They would love for him to 504 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: prove it. Uh, and we'll see. The interesting thing about 505 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: Badgely is he has not kicked off regularly since his 506 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: rookie year. That has not been something he has done. 507 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: What do you mean he's not kicked off. 508 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: Regularly regularly, like consistently. 509 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: No, okay, he hasn't been used as a kickoff man 510 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: regularly since his rookie year. 511 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: I thought you meant like his motion was irregular somehow. No, okay, 512 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: I'm there with. 513 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: So has he improved in this area? Does he do 514 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: something with his kickoff to the Titans want to cover 515 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: kickoffs this year? 516 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: Right? 517 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: And can he kick the high directional kick and the 518 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: way we saw him cover kicks in Minnesota. Maybe that's 519 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: the case. We'll see. 520 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: This is very interesting. 521 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the the kicker chronicles for the Tennessee kicker chronicles 522 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: have really been been something over the last couple of years. 523 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Well, Bullock was not consistent from long range, right. That 524 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: is something that has plugged Badgely earlier in his career. 525 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: But he has gotten better. He has been making more 526 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: long field goals in his last couple of years. Interesting, note, 527 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: he does have a career long of fifty nine yards. 528 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: That's good. 529 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: So he's made a fifty nine yarder in his career. 530 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: So it's not a matter of him not having the. 531 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: It's just it's consistently having this. 532 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: He has made ninety four of one hundred and fifteen 533 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: field goal attempts. 534 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: What's the percentage on that? 535 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 1: Ninety four of one point fifteen is eighty three? I 536 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: think somewhere in that percentage. 537 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: Somebody check that math. That seems right. That's pretty good 538 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: for off the top of your head. 539 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, thanks, yep. And that's and 540 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: here's the thing that's average in the NFL. Really, eighty 541 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: three percent is average. Eighty three eighty four percent is average. Well, 542 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean you think about it. They're professional kickers. 543 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's true. 544 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: Now to make eighty four. 545 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: Percent, yeah, I mean it just it seems like there's 546 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of a murmur with that, like where's 547 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: the drama? 548 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Well, and I mean if this had been thirty years ago, 549 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: a kicker may making eighty four percent of his field 550 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: goals would have been in the MVP voting. 551 00:30:54,600 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, But today, you know, it's just standard. It's standard, bigger, faster, stronger, 552 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: more actively. 553 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: Well, you have you have these athletes who have grown 554 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: up specializing in this. They have a specialized holder, they 555 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: have a specialized snapper. It no longer are the backup 556 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks or a wide receiver serving as their holder, right, 557 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a thing. 558 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean we've had some good ones over 559 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: the years. 560 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: Yes, let's get back. 561 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: To that, but we've had too many of them in 562 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: recent years. 563 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: Telling you, kickers are like oxygen. You don't know you 564 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: need it until you don't have it. 565 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: Wow, it's true. Put that on a T shirt open. 566 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: It's just it's something you don't even think. 567 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: Snickers hot seat is. 568 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: Gues Do I get snickers for that, absolutely, But I 569 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: mean you don't. You don't even think about it, doesn't 570 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: even cross your mind until you don't have one, and then. 571 00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: It's like the world is ending. Yeah, all right. 572 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: So Amy Wells is back on Titan's Countdown Friday night, 573 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: sixth Central on Titans Radio before Tennessee, New England from 574 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: Nissan Stadium at seven fifteen. 575 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: So excited, good back in a stadium. 576 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: We're glad you're going to be back it's going to 577 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: be great. There's flag football at halftime. 578 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: Is there? 579 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: Yes? 580 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: Oh man, this keeps getting better. I love it when 581 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 3: the kids play. 582 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: That was pretty neat. Then playing in Minnesota at halftime 583 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: on the field, that was pretty exciting. 584 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: I love it when they do that stuff. That's one 585 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: of my favorite things. 586 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: And we want to say something too before we before 587 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: we leave, about Caleb Farley and him losing his dad 588 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: and that tragic explosion in Moresville, North Carolina. We got 589 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: to know his dad a little bit, and what a 590 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: class act. And for Caleb and for his family, we are, 591 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, just beyond sorry. I mean, it's just a 592 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: tragedy that you can't even begin to consider. To see 593 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: Caleb handle that the way that he did, I think 594 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: makes people understand some of the character that he has, 595 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: which is why the Titans know, even though the beginning 596 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: to his on field career has been rocky, that he's 597 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 1: going to keep battling and he's going to keep fighting 598 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: for it because he's he's got that kind of stuff. 599 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he is. 600 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: He's a human worth investing in because he's just, I mean, 601 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: the stuff that you dream of when it comes to 602 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: a guy with grit and dedication and just a good heart. 603 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: He's a good person, and I mean to his whole family, 604 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: just you can't even conceive of something like that happening, 605 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: and especially just heartbreaking and. 606 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: Him losing his mom back when he was at Virginia 607 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: Tech and just for that whole family. I mean, it's 608 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: just absolutely crushing. I think, you know, at a moment 609 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: like this, when you see this young fella going through this, 610 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: it puts things in proper perspective about you know, he's 611 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: doing a job and hopefully when he comes back he'll 612 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: be healthy enough to get active and produced. But for 613 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: right now, the most important thing is for him to 614 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: take care of himself and for him to take care 615 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: of his family. And very proud of the coaching staff 616 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: and the players here, the members of the organization for 617 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: how they are choosing to support him through all of 618 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: this as well. 619 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's a part of the fiber of this 620 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: team is having that perspective and knowing that, yes, this 621 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: is a job. 622 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: It's a job we take very seriously. 623 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 2: We want to give one hundred and twenty percent at 624 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: every possible time. There are things that are bigger than football. 625 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: Ture are things that are more important than your job, 626 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: and giving him the space and the support and the 627 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: encouragement to go take care of what he needs to do, 628 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: take the time that he needs, and then come back 629 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: and we'll figure everything else out. But you focus on 630 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 2: your family and taking care of your own right now. 631 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: That's exactly right and makes you proud of Mike Rabel 632 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: and the culture that he has created, and back to 633 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: ownership as well. Yep, because it is a very genuine 634 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: sort of thing. I mean, there are a lot of 635 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: people walking around Ascension Saint Thomas Sports Park right now 636 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: really feeling it for Caleb Farley and his family in 637 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: this way. 638 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a team, an organization that's bound together 639 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: by more than just the game. 640 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: And you don't get to see that very often. 641 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: And we haven't seen that every year, No. 642 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 3: Oh, definitely not. 643 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 2: But this is a year where you can feel it 644 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: in the locker room, you can feel that the words 645 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: they're saying are genuine, you can see it out on 646 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: the field. You just you know that there's something binding 647 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: this team together that's bigger than just a shared career path, 648 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 2: and it's it's awesome to be a part of. 649 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: It's an amazing thing. 650 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 2: To watch, and in moments like this, when that's kind 651 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 2: of tested, it's even better to see these guys kind 652 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: of show up to support someone who needs it. 653 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: Framie Wells, I'm Mike Keith. Thank you for joining us 654 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: to the OC