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Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,

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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 3: On each episodisode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so

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Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. We've spoken

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Speaker 3: a lot in the past about dreams we have at

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Speaker 3: night of our deceased loved ones. You know those dream

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Speaker 3: visitations also lucid dreaming, getting into that very real space

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Speaker 3: and inviting your loved one in. Dreams of our loved

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Speaker 3: one are so comforting. But today we're going at a

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Speaker 3: different angle. This is in that time between just waking

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Speaker 3: up or just falling asleep and being awake and inviting

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Speaker 3: our loved ones in through the dream gate. Today you'll

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Speaker 3: meet doctor Janet Pete A Latto, who is a psychologist

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Speaker 3: and has given her life to the dreaming world. She

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Speaker 3: holds two doctorates, including one in trans personal psychology, where

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Speaker 3: she studied with doctor Stanley Kripner, a world renowned dream psychologist.

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Speaker 3: Through her writing, she offers a glimpse of the inner

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Speaker 3: world that we can access through our dreams. Let's meet

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Speaker 4: I am a dreamer, and most people who do know

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Speaker 4: me know that I already have my memorial stone in

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Speaker 4: the ground, probably for the last fifteen twenty years, and

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Speaker 4: beneath my name it says dreamer. I look at a

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Speaker 4: life that I've worn many hats. I've been a daughter,

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Speaker 4: an author, but I've always been a dreamer through all

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Speaker 4: of it. So while the hats come off, and I

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Speaker 4: my life. It is the dream gate that basically gives

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Speaker 4: me life. Most of us look at our lives and say,

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Speaker 4: we get up in the morning, we go to work,

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Speaker 4: we see, feel here, touch and taste everything around us.

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Speaker 4: We communicate with our physical world, but we're only half awake.

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Speaker 5: If that's all we pay attention to.

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Speaker 4: Sandra, it really is moving the waking world to join

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Speaker 4: with the dream world, to elevate consciousness. Consciousness is all

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Speaker 4: around us. We sit in consciousness, as opposed to those

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Speaker 4: who think consciousness is and little envelopes inside our brain.

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Speaker 4: The Egyptians pulled the brain out and threw it away.

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Speaker 4: They were right because it's only a transformer. But that invisible,

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Speaker 4: hidden part of ourselves, thesaura mystica, is really what life's about.

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Speaker 4: And for me, that's the reason why I'm alive without it.

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Speaker 4: What I see in the physical world is not enough

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Speaker 4: to seduce me to be here. But when I join

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Speaker 4: I don't mean dream by just putting the head on

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Speaker 4: the pillow, going to sleep at night and perchance remembering

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Speaker 4: one out of the five dreams that we have. Every

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Speaker 4: ninety minutes. At night, we're going to have a dream.

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Speaker 4: We just don't remember it because we don't wake up,

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Speaker 4: and memories of dream material made at night are not

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Speaker 4: And so we may get one dream at night we remember,

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Speaker 4: and if we're clever enough, we write it down. I

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Speaker 4: what's beneath it, and that's what dream therapy is about.

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Speaker 4: The dream may tell us that there's a particular person

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Speaker 4: What does a shaman do? Or shaman goes into the

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Speaker 4: I've had tragedies in my life, and if that's all

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Speaker 4: But I don't look at it that way. Every tragedy

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Speaker 4: Look at all of the generations and millennium that have

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Speaker 3: Can you give us some things that we can do ourselves.

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Speaker 4: everyone else. But for me, it's not just lucidity during

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Speaker 4: a night dream. And many people can't do that, and

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Speaker 4: that's fine, it's not important. But we can have a

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Speaker 4: lucid dream one we're awake. A shaman has a lucid dream,

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Speaker 4: he's awake, he's aware that he's in another state. A medium,

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Speaker 4: especially a trance medium, is aware that they're in another

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Speaker 4: state unless they're so deep in trance and then they're

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Speaker 4: not aware, and that one is not really the state

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Speaker 4: we want to be in.

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Speaker 5: We can do this, and how do we do it?

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Speaker 4: All? Right? First of all, I'll start with the night dreams,

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Speaker 4: because that's what most people want. You don't need to

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Speaker 4: look for a lucid dream at night. But when you

445
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Speaker 4: wake up in the morning, if someone is going to work,

446
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 4: if someone has an appointment at a certain hour and

447
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: they need so much time to get themselves ready, to shower,

448
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 4: it to take their coffee, whatever it is, put your

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Speaker 4: alarm clock on with a soft gentle waking like chimes.

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Speaker 4: About twenty minutes to a half hour before you need

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Speaker 4: to get out of bed, and then don't move and

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Speaker 4: say to yourself, where was I?

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Speaker 5: Where was I?

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Speaker 4: The Egyptians felt that dream was a noun, and the

455
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Speaker 4: hieroglyphic for dream was feet and an open eye, an

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Speaker 4: eye that was seeing they were going someplace. Dream was

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Speaker 4: not a verb. Dream was a place and a lot

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Speaker 4: of healing that happened during the dream, and part of

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Speaker 4: healing one we're grieving is connecting with an ancestor who

460
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Speaker 4: passed to show us that they are still alive, because

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Speaker 4: our waking life contradicts that and says that's not true.

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Speaker 5: So you're awake, you've.

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Speaker 4: Got twenty minutes a half hour you ask yourself, where

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Speaker 4: was I, what was I doing?

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Speaker 5: Who was I with? And how do I feel about this?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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Speaker 3: and we're with dream expert doctor Janet Pete Lato. She

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Speaker 3: recommends setting your alarm clock to chimes or gentle music

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Speaker 3: twenty minutes to half hour before you wake up. Let's continue.

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Speaker 4: So you're awake, You've got twenty minutes a half hour.

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Speaker 4: You asked yourself, where was I, what was I doing,

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Speaker 4: who was I with? And how do I feel? About this,

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Speaker 4: and then you say, I remember, okay, it's fine. Either

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Speaker 4: get a tablet or a piece of paper or pay

495
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Speaker 4: it or whatever you want to do. Sit up and

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Speaker 4: say to yourself, right now, where am I all right?

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Speaker 4: For me, I'd say in my grandpa's bed. Why, simply

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Speaker 4: because that's what came to me. And I'm holding his hand,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, what's happening here? My mother is off to

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Speaker 4: the side. I'm in the family house. This is my

501
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 4: maternal background, and Grandpa is there, and what's happening here?

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Speaker 4: Grandpa is transitting because the next thing I see, we're

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Speaker 4: still in a bedroom, but it's my bedroom and Grandpa's

504
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Speaker 4: sitting on the bed, hugging me and talking, how do

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00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: I feel fabulous? Okay, so you're going to say you

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Speaker 4: just made that up. Yes, I made it up by

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00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: faculty of my imagination, the faculty which allows me to

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Speaker 4: make images. The image is important. Without that, we wouldn't

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Speaker 4: know where to go in the morning. We wouldn't even

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Speaker 4: know where we were. People that have alpheimis, that's part

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Speaker 4: of the problem. There's no connection to these images anymore.

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Speaker 4: They don't know anything. When people say to me, it's

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Speaker 4: just my imagination. Cut out the just and say, yes,

514
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 4: it's my imagination and thank god I have it because

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Speaker 4: it's the tool that allows me.

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Speaker 5: Now, what is this telling me?

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Speaker 4: Actually it was the perfect example because I don't hesitate.

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Speaker 5: If you notice, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Have to sit here and say, oh, where do I

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00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: want to be? I said, what wanted to come? Grandpa

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Speaker 4: noticed I didn't say dying. He transit it because we

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00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: did transit. We moved from his bedroom where the physical

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Speaker 4: passed into the eternal, which was me as a little

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Speaker 4: girl sitting on my bed seeing my grandfather very much

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Speaker 4: alive communicating with me. The dream, which I just literally

526
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Speaker 4: let come out of the unconscious, is here to say

527
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Speaker 4: to me there is life after passing from the body.

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Speaker 4: There's absolutely no question. It's giving us the hope in

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Speaker 4: something that should come, and it's opening up another doorway

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Speaker 4: for me. And that doorway was in another dream that

531
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Speaker 4: I had where when I came to the door, there

532
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: was writing, and I knew the writing was the Kabbala,

533
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Speaker 4: but I don't know the Kabbala, and I'm Loucid in

534
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Speaker 4: the dream, and I'm saying I wish they would have

535
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 4: given me hieroglyphs because that's what I was studying. I

536
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 4: could read hieroglyphs. But then I pushed the cock webs

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Speaker 4: away and pushed the door open, and a voice from

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Speaker 4: inside literally said, we don't die. The next day, my

539
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Speaker 4: husband's friend and my friend as well, a Jewish man

540
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Speaker 4: had passed away, and I called his wife and I

541
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Speaker 4: said to her, and that dream was for you, because

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Speaker 4: the door had the writing of the Kabbala, which is

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Speaker 4: from Judaism, I said, And the message from Mark was

544
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Speaker 4: to tell you we don't die. So notice that from

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Speaker 4: a little girl standing by a bed with a grandfather

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Speaker 4: that's passing, to a little girl moving to sitting on

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Speaker 4: her own bed an hour after the incident with the grandfather,

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Speaker 4: who now is quite alive and vibrant. Sir Isaac Newton,

549
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: one of the most brilliant brains that ever came on

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Speaker 4: the planet, spent years decades in alchemy looking for the truth.

551
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: And he wasn't looking to make gold. He was looking

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Speaker 4: for the enlightenment of knowing. And what is that memory

553
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: that we've lost. The memory is that we think everything

554
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: that's around us is real. The truth is nothing around

555
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: us is real. My hard desk that I'm banging on,

556
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: that's going to disintegrate. Someday it's going to fall apart.

557
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: But what I see in the imaginal realm is internal,

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00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: which is why we can go past, and we can

559
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Speaker 4: go present, and we can go future, because it's all

560
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 4: there outside of time and connecting like that. So in

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Speaker 4: the morning, when you wake up, whether or not you're

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Speaker 4: remembering the dream, you do what I just did. If

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Speaker 4: you don't remember the dream, what's popping into your head?

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Speaker 5: Where are you?

565
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: Who?

566
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Speaker 5: You wish?

567
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: What's going on? And how do you feel? And you

568
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 4: keep on writing, And then of course you have to

569
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Speaker 4: amplify as I did, to say what is it making

570
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: me think of? Where is it passing? Even to the

571
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: door for Judy who was my Jewish friend who was

572
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: to lose her husband, and I had the message the

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Speaker 4: night before of the kabbala saying we don't die. That's

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Speaker 4: one of the ways. And I certainly had a patient

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Speaker 4: that worked with me. I do complimentary medicine. He had cancer,

576
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Speaker 4: but we were working on dreams and he never remembered

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Speaker 4: a dream in his whole life. He was in his sixties,

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Speaker 4: and I said to him, we're going to do this.

579
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Speaker 4: I said, I'll help you but you have to make

580
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: up a dream every morning when you wake up. And

581
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Speaker 4: for weeks he came, and every morning, every time he came,

582
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Speaker 4: it was a made up dream, until one day he

583
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: came and said to me, I didn't make up a

584
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Speaker 4: dream for today. So I thought, okay, Al, that's fine,

585
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: not a problem. He said, no, I actually had one.

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Speaker 4: So that's one of the ways that you can begin

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00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: to have a dream. Also, you can dream incubate, so

588
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: that before you go to bed at night, sit there

589
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: and if someone just passed, or at somebody's anniversary or

590
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: somebody's birthday, and you say it because you miss them,

591
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: actually work yourself up into teas, be emotional about it,

592
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: admit how you feel, and then pad it in paper

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00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: or hand to tablet and write down I want to dream.

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Speaker 4: I want to connect with this person and ask them

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Speaker 4: a question and not a yes and no answer, something

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Speaker 4: you would like them to help you with in life.

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Speaker 4: Show me like I was with my brother in law

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Speaker 4: that I had only met twice, to say, show me

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Speaker 4: something that's confirming, tell me something that'll give me hope,

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Speaker 4: and then go to sleep. Now, if you have trouble

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Speaker 4: that you think you might not remember the dreams. A

602
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: little hint is to me, I drink so much tea

603
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Speaker 4: every day and I'll have two or three cups just

604
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 4: reading my book at nights, and I don't mind. I'm

605
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: going to wake up during the night to your Nate.

606
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: And one of the things is you wake up, you're

607
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: going to wake up at the tail end of one

608
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: of those dreams and you're going to remember it. And

609
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: so I've been known to write as many as five

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00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: dreams a night. So you can do that if you're

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00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: willing to wake up and record the dreams, that will

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00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 4: help you. If that's not working, we can do the

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Speaker 4: waking lucid dream. And this is when we do what

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Speaker 4: the Shamans do. We dedicate ourselves to the harmony of

615
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: the universe. We don't want to see anything that's going

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Speaker 4: to be in any way invasive to anyone or hurtful

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00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 4: to anyone. Never then we ask that there's a guiding

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00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: spirit that will be with us, and this can show

619
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 4: up as anything. It could be a grandmother, grandfather, could

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00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: be a relative, dear friend and someone that in.

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Speaker 5: Our life passed away, but we would like to be.

622
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Speaker 4: With them as the guardian who is going to pass

623
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Speaker 4: through the dream gate and we can close our eyes

624
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: and let the images wrong. Some people hear things, some

625
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: people will see things, clairvoyant audio, voidings, it doesn't matter.

626
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 4: And then we come up with some sort of a question.

627
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: We're dream incubating. What do we want? Maybe we just

628
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 4: want to see our beloved who passed away, our husband,

629
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Speaker 4: our son, our daughter, and we ask that we might

630
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: be able to see them. We close our eyes, soft music,

631
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 4: something that's going to lull us, or just the quiet

632
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: breathing in, breathing out, breathing in, breathing out, and then

633
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: asking to be brought to a memory, a memory of

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00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 4: something with the beloved. And what we tend to notice

635
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: is the places that we go shift there's something in

636
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 4: it that we didn't see before. Perhaps there's a painting

637
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: on the wall that we don't remember. In the room

638
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: there's another room or a closet that we don't remember,

639
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: or something on a table that's there, and we begin

640
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 4: to communicate in our mind. We start a conversation sitting

641
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 4: at a table of the questions or what we wish

642
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: to say to this person that maybe we didn't have

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00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: time to say. I often have people grieving and they'll

644
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: come to me, and there was an argument, and somebody

645
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 4: passed away and they did not have the time to

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00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 4: put an end to that argument. So this is the

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Speaker 4: time to do it. And then they come back and

648
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: they record and write everything that they saw because there's

649
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Speaker 4: little details in that vision that will give them the answers.

650
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Speaker 4: And often when you're beginning on your own, which is

651
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 4: why people go to people like me, you need somebody

652
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: to help you. It was called young working with people

653
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: for years, each image opens up to something else that

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Speaker 4: you didn't think of. So that dream that you may

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Speaker 4: wake up, or even with the waking time, when you're

656
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: thinking of someone that you want to be with, you

657
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 4: to go through the gate. You imagine a gate or

658
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: a door, maybe the house where this person lived, a

659
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 4: table where you're going to sit in a conversation. You

660
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 4: look for all the details of things that are in

661
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 4: that because each one will open up to a memory

662
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 4: that will tell you something else, and all of a

663
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 4: sudden you'll be able to say, oh, my goodness, I

664
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: didn't think of that. It's called mnmnieces. I didn't remember that.

665
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 4: I didn't think of that. That makes me feel so good.

666
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 4: That shows me this person is here. And sometimes it's

667
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 4: only something little.

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00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 5: I opened up the.

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Speaker 4: Doorway one morning and inside there was somebody that I

670
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: didn't know in life, I'd never met, but it was

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00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: a husband of one of my clients. And all this

672
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: person said to me was, my name is not and

673
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: he said the name that I knew him by from

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Speaker 4: what his wife said my name is. And he gave

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00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: me something I didn't understand. He said, but it's that's

676
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 4: not my name. And when I spoke to her during therapy,

677
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 4: I said, I'm not quite sure what this means. I

678
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 4: wasn't told anything else except this is not my name.

679
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: She said, My children don't even know that.

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Speaker 5: She said.

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Speaker 4: He grew up in a society where his religion was

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Speaker 4: not accepted, so he had to pass himself off as

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Speaker 4: a Christian, and so that's why he took a Christian

684
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 4: name for everybody to know.

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Speaker 5: But that was not his name.

686
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: I said, I wish I had more. She said, no, absolutely,

687
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: you're telling me. And again I wasn't looking for him.

688
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: I go through the doorway every morning, every night, and

689
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: during the day spontaneously things happen, and I know I'm

690
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 4: sitting at my computer. I'm quite lucid, but I also

691
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 4: know my consciousness has expanded. It's not left my body.

692
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 4: I hate that expression out of body experience. It's expanded

693
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 4: body experience. But it's all dream. So I tell people,

694
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Speaker 4: if you're not making the dreams at night happen, if

695
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: you're not getting up and making up one in the

696
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 4: morning and realizing that making up that dream like what

697
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 4: I just did with my grandfather is important and perfect

698
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: for Grandpa to come forward for everybody today because that

699
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 4: message was for everyone. We don't die, and that's the

700
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: message that you give. But if that's not what happens,

701
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: then you have to give time to it. It's the

702
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: via mystica, the mystical path. You have to be willing

703
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: to be open, and you have to realize that that

704
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: ridiculous dream that seems to be so totally crazy is

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Speaker 4: not crazy at will.

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Speaker 3: Next, doctor Janet will tell us about frightening dreams. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we all have nightmares. The first let's go to the break.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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Speaker 3: and we're with dream expert doctor Janet Pete Alatto. Next,

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Speaker 3: she'll talk about those duretded nightmares.

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Speaker 4: I've had people come with dreams that they've been terrified.

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00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: You usually have a frightening dream so that you remember it,

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00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 4: and then you need to go through the doorways to

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00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: what the dream is actually telling you. And the dream

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Speaker 4: may be totally opposite of what you think, which most

731
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 4: of the time it is. The dream is made of images,

732
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Speaker 4: and the image is the key, because it's the door.

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Speaker 4: We put that key in and we open it and

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00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: we go somewhere else. I was at a funeral that

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Speaker 4: I wrote the eulogy for one of my best friends,

736
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Speaker 4: and her mother died when she was like I think,

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Speaker 4: six years old. She had an aneurysm. So this girl

738
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Speaker 4: it was a tough life. But it was her stepmother

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00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: that passed that I knew, and certainly that this girl

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Speaker 4: grew up with. But as she was presenting the eulogy

741
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: for her stepmother, her real mother was there and I

742
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 4: saw the real mother, but this is not the real thing.

743
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: Next to her, there's another woman, and this other woman

744
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 4: is not the woman who died. But she's telling me

745
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: I was second mother. And again here I am saying,

746
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 4: I know you weren't. Irene who died was the second mother.

747
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 4: We came out of the church and I told my

748
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 4: friend and she smiled and she said to me, you

749
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 4: didn't realize that, she said, but that was my grandmother.

750
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 4: She was my second mother. My grandmother took care of

751
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: me for years before my father remarried, and I didn't

752
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 4: know that. So again, these are all substantial to tell people.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm sitting in a church awake, totally awake. I'd

754
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 4: be some witness in court, that's for sure. They wouldn't

755
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: be able to look at me and know where I

756
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 4: was seeing what. But it's all to confirm that there

757
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: is a life.

758
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 3: It is exciting and the commitment has to be there.

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Speaker 3: So I love that. I love what you say about

760
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 3: setting the alarm half hour early to nice music or

761
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: chimes or something, because I know I've had it and

762
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: those in between moments. But then paying attention to the

763
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Speaker 3: dream if you can, and if you didn't have.

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Speaker 4: It, we can create created, and that the creation is

765
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: just as important, and that's just realize.

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Speaker 3: And then we could invite our loved one, right and

767
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Speaker 3: then see that gate and walk through it. And how

768
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: do I feel? And I think the most important thing

769
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Speaker 3: that you said to me is throw out the word

770
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Speaker 3: just just my imagination. The imagination is the key to

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Speaker 3: the gate.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, this is.

773
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Speaker 3: Good, This is real good because everyone wants to feel.

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Speaker 5: Everyone can.

775
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 4: I have nothing against mediumship where someone will get on

776
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 4: a platform and give some messages. It helps in grieving,

777
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 4: but it's a band aid at best unless someone has

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Speaker 4: their own experience and That's what I'm about. It's about

779
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: giving you your experience. I can tell you what I've experienced,

780
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: but I want you to experience your own. Which is

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Speaker 4: why all of my work on the Vamistica and is

782
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: at least a week that I'm on with classes. It's

783
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Speaker 4: all about people going in on their own and having

784
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Speaker 4: experience it then sharing it.

785
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Speaker 5: I often laugh.

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Speaker 4: Christina Morgan loves it because she's down under and the

787
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: sun is above and it's night for me, and the

788
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: sun has gone down, and I'm saying, no, how well,

789
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Speaker 4: each one of us we're looking and saying the sun

790
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 4: has set, the sun has risen. The sun doesn't do either.

791
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 4: The sun is always in its location. Our perception makes

792
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Speaker 4: us believe that's what it's doing. Our perception is transient

793
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: and passing and not true. So realize in life what

794
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: we think we're seeing is an illusion half the time,

795
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 4: and what's hidden is beneath everything we see the same

796
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 4: way that when we look. I have my tarot cards,

797
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Speaker 4: and I remember when the senior editor look the images

798
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Speaker 4: all put together and said to me, every card is

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Speaker 4: filled with all images. It's not a typical terot, which

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00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: some people hate because they want a typical tarot.

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Speaker 5: That's fine, you can use.

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00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 4: It as But the thing is, I'm filled with images

803
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: because that's what I'm about. The one card that only

804
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: had an onion on it. She said to me, maybe

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00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: you want to change this. I said to her, no,

806
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: absolutely not. I said that card is one of the

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00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: most important because you have to peel that onion. It's

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00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: many layers, and it may be sweet or it may

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00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: be bitter. It may make you cry, or it may

810
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: make you remember maybe going out to dinner with you

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Speaker 4: beloved and they served onion soup and that was one

812
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 4: of the times when you knew you loved them. In fact,

813
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: sometimes you might look at it, it might be a

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Speaker 4: ball and other times, like I remember being at Authur

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Speaker 4: Finlay and using that card with a couple of people

816
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Speaker 4: and for one woman, I said to her, no, it's

817
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Speaker 4: an apple. It's the apple from the fairy tale from

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Speaker 4: snow White, I said, And it's the evil witch and

819
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Speaker 4: it's snow White having to leave home because it wasn't safe.

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Speaker 4: I said, there was something in your childhood that wasn't safe.

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Speaker 4: And she said to me, yeah, my father was abusive

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Speaker 4: and she had to leave. And of course the card

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Speaker 4: that was the onion turned into an apple for me,

824
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: and a rotten apple at that brought me a fairy tale.

825
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 4: And that fairy tale was right on for what this

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Speaker 4: woman had a self in her life. So you see

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That's what I mean by an image

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Speaker 4: being doorways. The onion brought the door of the apple,

829
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Speaker 4: the apple was rotten, the wicked queen looking in the mirror,

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Speaker 4: and then snow white running away. It always fit.

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Speaker 3: You know how connected we are. Just before you started

832
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Speaker 3: talking about the onion, I saw an onion in my

833
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: mind and started peeling it away, and then you start

834
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Speaker 3: talking about the onion card. Perfect goosebumps. Connected. Would those

835
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Speaker 3: cards be a good tool when we wake up in

836
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Speaker 3: the morning and we're in this spot and if we

837
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Speaker 3: don't remember our dream, to just take a glance at

838
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Speaker 3: the card.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me stop you for a minute, because one

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00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: of the tools that I do recommend is shuffling the cards,

841
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: just randomly picking two cards, placing them on the side

842
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: of the bed at night, thinking about what it is

843
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: that you want to dream about or who you want

844
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: to dream about, and then taking one of the cards,

845
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Speaker 4: look at the image and it's someone with a crow

846
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 4: on their back. But there's clouds in the sky, but

847
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 4: a rainbow is about to appear, And so it is

848
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 4: certainly appropriate for anybody who's suffering the loss of a beloved.

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Speaker 4: They're sitting on the stone in the middle, with the

850
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Speaker 4: waters of the unconscious floating around them, the sun and

851
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 4: the moon on either side. It's cloudy day. They've had losses,

852
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: and I've had people around me now with new losses.

853
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 4: But it's showing you that there's something good coming. There's

854
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 4: a rainbow in the clouds now. It's the only one

855
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 4: that you look at. And you go to bed at night,

856
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: and then in the morning you either make up the dream,

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00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 4: Like I said, where were you, what were you doing?

858
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 5: Who were you with? And how do you feel?

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00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: So in a way, it really is saying go into

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Speaker 4: the dream, and the dream will help you to survive

861
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 4: the tragedies of the physical. Because like the sun that

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Speaker 4: neither rises nor sets, but gives us the illusion of it,

863
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Speaker 4: so does death not be the passing of the great

864
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: spirit of who we are. We're eternal and we go

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Speaker 4: to that mansion of millions of years, but we don't

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Speaker 4: know that unless we join with the dream. Consciousness, And

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Speaker 4: as call Young used to say, if all we do

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Speaker 4: is look to the waking, rational world, we're not awake.

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Speaker 4: So don't we want to be fully awake? It's only

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Speaker 4: by going in dream.

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Speaker 3: My mom woke up this morning and had a scary

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00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: dream about my dad who's deceased, and he was really

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Speaker 3: mad at her in the dream. Just because we dream,

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Speaker 3: that does not mean our loved ones are mad at us.

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Speaker 3: Can you just talk about some of the.

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, I can share a dream that a woman

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Speaker 4: who'd lost her husband had and came to me and

878
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 4: was terrified, so upset. In the dream, she's walking down

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00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 4: a street and suddenly there's a tsunami and she's caught

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00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 4: up in the water of the tsunami. If things could

881
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Speaker 4: not get worse, there's a big black bear that's trying

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00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: to get at her from this tsunami. It's a dream,

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Speaker 4: So there's a telephone booth that she manages to get into.

884
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 4: The water is swirling around her, the bear is banging

885
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 4: on the door of the booth and the phone rings.

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00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: She picks up the phone and it's a deceased husband.

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Speaker 4: He's babbling on, not listening to her, being frightened all

888
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: of these eyes are on her as though there's all

889
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: these beings around her, and they're just smiling, and she's terrified.

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00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: And she finally gets so upset with her husband because

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00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: she's asking him for help and he's just being nice

892
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: and kind, and she just wants to communicate with her.

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00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: She wakes up terrified, so she brings me the stream.

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00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: She say, it's the worst dream I've ever had. I

895
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 4: said to her, I have to agree with you. It's

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00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: a superlative dream, probably the best stream that you might

897
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: ever have. First of all, the waters are the waters

898
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: of the unconscious. You are not knowing how to swim

899
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Speaker 4: in these waters. That's why they are swirling around you

900
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 4: like a great tsunami. You're getting ready to drown in them.

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00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 4: But the waters of the unconscious are trying to bring

902
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: you a message, and the messenger is that big bear. Certainly,

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00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 4: in the Native American tradition, the bear is the healer,

904
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 4: and the bear wants to heal you. So you get

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00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 4: yourself in a box. But the box is still a

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00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 4: box of communication. And all of those eyes that are

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00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: around you are all the eyes of the ancestors that

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00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 4: really want to help you to see listen to the communication.

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00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 4: They've got you boxed in. You're in the waters that

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00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 4: are of the unconscious, and the communicator wants to give

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00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 4: you a peaceful message, telling you do not be afraid,

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00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 4: don't worry. I'm here for you. I can always communicate.

913
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Speaker 4: But you're so excited and you wake up. Now why

914
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 4: were you excited and upset so that you'd remember that

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00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: your husband communicated with you in the dream, Because otherwise,

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00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: when we have a pleasant dream, there's no reason we

917
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 4: wake up. But when we have a terrifying, frightening, horrifying dream,

918
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: we wake up, and that's when we really know something important,

919
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 4: not necessarily bad, often good. And her whole life turned

920
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 4: around realizing, yes, he was able to communicate through that

921
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: dream and through that box of communication. So your mom's dream,

922
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 4: the fact that he's trying to communicate and that there's anger,

923
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Speaker 4: first of all, means you're going to wake up remembering this.

924
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 4: I want to shake you up, and second of all,

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Speaker 4: I'm here. I want to let you know, and you're

926
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Speaker 4: not angry. When you pass over, the human emotions like

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00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: that are gone. So I often say in any of

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Speaker 4: the mediums that I'm in their circle. Know this that

929
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Speaker 4: if they're present venting somebody that's mad over something, angry

930
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 4: over something or whatever, they're giving the imprint of what

931
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: that person was here not on the other side, we

932
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Speaker 4: all come to manifest a certain aspect that's important for

933
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: the balance of the universe, and everything has to be

934
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Speaker 4: here so those of us who've come to carry our

935
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Speaker 4: weight of sorrows are balanced by those who have the joys.

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Speaker 4: I look and say, every time I cry, someone else

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00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 4: is going to smile and laugh.

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Speaker 3: Thank you cham It visit her site at jam It

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Speaker 3: Peterelado dot net and always come visit me at We

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Speaker 3: Don't Die dot com. I'm Sandra Champlain and from the

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